The man, the myth, the legend, Ricky Del Hagen, Sticky Rick, The Bugez, Eric Bugenhagen, did an 880lbs barbell hack squat a few years back. Pay the man.
Bugenhagen wrote of his lift "Actually, this isn't a hack squat, it's a behind-the-back deadlift; it's dead weight lifted from the floor, hence deadlift." th-cam.com/video/KdqotBUcS5I/w-d-xo.html (edited for link)
@@userer4579 No, it is a real barbell hack squat. The buff dudes made a video on that lift a couple of years back, it is the same exercise. A behind the back deadlift trains the quads, not the hamstrings, because it is the reverse of a deadlift. Barbell hack squats (aka behind the back deadlifts) are better than back squats for hypertrophy of the quads because they take out the lower back focus, which allows you to go for higher volume with no lower back fatigue. The only downside is that it doesn't work the glutes and lower back but if you do romanian deadlifts, you can work both of those and the hamstrings at the same time, so you don't really need back squats unless you're a powerlifter.
@@lazo3251 Whatever. Go argue with Bugenhagen, he is the strength coach. I just quoted what he said. PS No one gives a shit what some Nancy boys who call themselves "Buff Dudes" think.
@@edx21x No, it's not impossible to lift heavy. The vast majority of people don't practice it enough to get a good enough technique, thus they can't lift much weight. And then they go around saying how it's impossible.
@@sven-sandershestakov5201 to be honest I’ve never given it much thought. I did them years ago and haven’t since. There’s just a lot of movements I find more useful for me so I don’t mess with them.
I'm not here to argue what a hack squat is but I would say that Eric doesn't do what rip describes. He doesn't squat it and then pull it back up he's doing a deadlift with the bar behind him
Curlean-X I noticed you disagree with rips video on why he doesn’t like the trap bar. You normally explain you’re view point rather well so id like to hear what you disagree with regarding that video.
@@18yearoldconservativefromc60 Thanks. Yeah, so I disagree that "it's completely useless." The trap bar is a valid way to build strength (in that type of deadlift pattern) and size. It's not "dangerous" since no exercises are dangerous unless loaded too quickly and aggressively. The "sagittal" plane stuff is not an issue to worry about because as someone practices the movement, that sagittal movement becomes less of an issue, and the people adapt to that position to be able to tolerate that instability far better. That's why this supposed problem never even manifests in practice. I also disagree that people won't be able to lift as much as a straight bar with a trap bar. Whether it's a regular trap bar (low handles) or a high handled trap bar, when done for a long enough time, those numbers should dwarf a conventional/sumo deadlift by 100-200 lbs. These were the main points of the video to my memory. I wouldn't tell people to do the trap bar deadlift over the straight bar since I'm biased to the straight bar as well and would rather coach conventional deadlifts, but I don't think there's anything wrong with the trap bar.
Hi from Libya. Big fan of your podcast RIP. You changed my idea about lifting weights a d since starting listening to your podcast I progressed alot on my lifting numbers, for example 3 months ago my deadlift max was just below 100kg, today I pulled 144kg. Thank you
@@NoOoDLe666 I wanna know this too. Never tried the Jefferson, but 500lbs on the hack squat is very doable, & have gone near that weight before. I imagine the Jefferson is wayyyy easier than conventional deadlift. Seems kinda technical too.
My experience with the Jefferson's is the opposite. I wrecked my lower back with front squats doing them too deep and wanted something for the time my back recovers. The Jefferson's give my back zero issues. Going heavy it is difficult to maintain good form for knee position.
The hack squat is a great way of developing quads that have the sort of tear drops that the starting strength crew only see when Rip gets to an all you can eat buffet 5 minutes after it shut.
Or, and bear with me, you pick it up from the ground? Revolutionary idea, I know. Another advantage of this is that you immediately know if you can do the exercise with sufficient ROM. Can you pikc it up with decent form? No? lighten the weight.
His whole premise is ridiculous. He picks an arbitrary weight (500 lbs) and says if you can't barbell hack squat this arbitrary amount, what's the use? I can't front squat 500 lbs, but I still do them. I can't bench 300 lbs, but I still do them. Some people can barbell hack squat 500 lbs. Some, more than that. That it's difficult makes it worth the effort. And, many accomplished lifters swear by them. Maybe they should have asked this windbag first.
My guess is he is talking on starting strength criteria of lifting. So he says if you can lift heavy on hack squat why do it , he is propably refering to hack squat as a main excersise i guess and he is propably saying you can do sth else as a main. I personally feel its a really good excersise and indeed i am doing it as an assistant excersise for 10-12reps not main
@@oo-sb4ps Rip is fantastic for beginners, but he's got a nack for making up weird reasons for not doing exercises he just doesn't like, without just saying that.
Anyone else feel like jeffersons are easier on the back? CDLs have a much greater lever arm than a JDL (which is directly below you). I feel "twisted up" a bit before post-workout stretching, but it doesn't tax the back at all.
Honestly I think barbell hack squat is a good exercise I do them occasionally for years and got up 460 for 6 reps just take time and practice like anything else..and my qauds be on fire!!!🔥 so I have to disagree
I don’t think Rip recommends hack squats because he fully doesn’t understand it himself. His description of it was very confusing and I pictured something completely different until I watched videos of it. Hack squats are basically just reverse deadlifts
I know this is old but how much weight are you talkin with barbell hack squats? I’m 130-135lbs and just tried them for the first time before finding your video and I did 320x2
The Jefferson squat is a superb quad and glute exercise when performed correctly. It's not about lifting heavy. it's about activation. My quads started getting significantly stronger once i added this to my routine. Jeffersons rock!!
The best assistance for my deadlift was always the squat, but I am not longer able to get my shoulders back far enough to support the weight. The hack squat machine has been a suitable alternative. It has built power and size in my quads and has no doubt helped my deadlift. I also do not agree that one has to pile on a shit load of weight on this machine. I do great with 10-12 reps per set at a lower weight. I do agree they can be hard on the knees if done to deep or if done incorrectly.
The Reverse Hack Squat allows for hip movement and I quite like them. Not sure how useful they are for powerlifting but I feel like they could be used to sneak in some extra volume without creating a ton of systemic fatigue
I attended the 1970 world weightlifting competition and world bodybuilding competition amateur and professional. One of the amateur bodybuilders did an exhibition on stage. He did a hack squat with a barbell from the floor of 700 lb. This is the same venue in which Alexia broke the world record in the clean and jerk of 500 lb. So you're incorrect
I tried the hack squat once, I grabbed the bar loaded with some amount of weight and yank the bar slamming it right into my ass feeling a jarring sensation in my back, I then set the bar down unloaded that shit and left.
Is he saying a hack squat from the rack down and back to the rack? I agree that is impossible to do heavy. but ive never seen anyone do that. it's a deadlift. Maybe everyone is using the incorrect terminology.
@@dannyhitsprs9301 with a behind the back deadlift yeah. The weight is in behind you therefore there is not a lot of pressure on the lower back. Maybe watch an alpha destiny vid where he explains it
Damn Rip, could you be so wrong on almost everything mentioned in this video? Hack squat as a machine squat definitely has its use as a quad developing exercise. In the training time where you focus on hypertrophy (if you want to get stronger you have to get bigger i really hope i dont have to explain this) a hack squat can be used 1) As an assistance movement to avoid adaptive resistance on a regular squat 2) As an assistance movement to menage fatigue, as a light squat 3) As a way to add more volume to your quads without doing something totally unspesific such as leg extensions (again, not something that i need to explain i hope, you can not grow forever by just doing fahves and singles, you need volume) So how is a hack squat useless again Rip? Is it the absolute best squat variation? No. Probably not. Is it useless most definitely not. And when it comes to behind the back squat, i think Eric Bugenhagen did like 800+ pounds on that thing, so you may wanna send him some cash. My point is, i really really dont understand why does Rip render everything that isnt 110% optimal as useless? Is he being so dogmatic for the sake of trolling? Is he really unaware that an exercise can be just okay and not perfect or useless? Also, Jefferson deadlift can not be done heavy? Well, if hevier than a conventional deadlift isnt heavy enough, that of course they can not be done heavy.
@@bubhinson I forgot to address that. So what? You are taking the hiep drahve meme too seriously, hips are not the only thing that drives the squat up. Because it has no hip movement in a sagital plane its less spesific to a squat, but so what? For the reasons i explained above, that doesnt matter. Its an assistance exercise, its supposed to be unspesific in some way.
Lohengramm 14 Machine exercises are useless because they dont replicate normal body movements or ROM, dont incorperate balance, heavy weights and restrict movement necessary to require proper form with for example hip drive needed to correctly perform a squat. 1) An assistance exercise is the pause squat for example to help with bottom of the squat. Not a machine quad push which dosnt make your squat go up, therefore useless for assisting anything. And squats are never "adapted to" they are a normal body movement which you will do for the rest of your life if you follow his program. 2) Managing fatigue by squatting light is by guess what genius... squatting with lighter weight. 3) Add mass to your quads? We dont operate in body parts when strength training and even if we did we would still do deadlifts or squats cause they train the quads more than some silly machine. Why? Cause we can lift heavier weight with full range of motion. Very simple and as i said before the body works as a system. So how is the hack squat useless? Watch the video again and if you still dont know come back to me. Your the one spreading dogma. Stop listening to roid heads and bodybuilding.com lol. Also why would you self admittedly do anything else less than optimal? Wierd.
Wow, strongly disagree with his opinion with the barbell hack squat. Like he said, you can't a lot of weight with it but it makes your knees bulletproof which in my opinion makes it 100% worth. You can just say it's ridiculous, there's a reason why Hackeschmidt was able to run 5 miles at 80 years old and jump over 5 foot chair 50 times once a week at 80.
This is false Mr. Fat Folk. Both variations did help improve both my barbell strength (pushing of the floor) and enhance my core strength. I can say your knowledge is good for beginners but not experienced lifters. Lifting isn’t all about 3-5x3-5 on compound lifts. You can start with a squat/ bench for example the finish your session with pull ups for reps and end with 2-3 sets of curls or extensions for 8-10 reps. Always end with core training to as you could actually train core/ perform steady state cardio on a daily basis
There's a few people mentioning eric bugenhagen here, but even excluding eric, i know loads of people who perform the hack squat just fine. This guy is wrong on so many levels lol
Here is Eric Bugenhagen doing a 725 lb barbell hack lift: th-cam.com/video/KdqotBUcS5I/w-d-xo.html I did them in my teens with sets of 10 with 315. They will fry your quads. As an old guy, they are not as fun for me or my lower back.
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Joshua Defaria you beat me to it!
Exactly what I was thinking when he said send a video of 500lb hack squat 😂😂😂
IT'S A MIND SET!!!
@Michael Combs He hit 900 in his early days
@Michael Combs More like ribs of steel
It can be done. But only if you have the proper MINDSET! IT IS A MINDSET!
YEAAHH
The man, the myth, the legend, Ricky Del Hagen, Sticky Rick, The Bugez, Eric Bugenhagen, did an 880lbs barbell hack squat a few years back.
Pay the man.
hahahaha I was thinking the same thing!
Bugenhagen wrote of his lift "Actually, this isn't a hack squat, it's a behind-the-back deadlift; it's dead weight lifted from the floor, hence deadlift."
th-cam.com/video/KdqotBUcS5I/w-d-xo.html (edited for link)
he also just got out of a knee surgery.
@@userer4579 No, it is a real barbell hack squat. The buff dudes made a video on that lift a couple of years back, it is the same exercise. A behind the back deadlift trains the quads, not the hamstrings, because it is the reverse of a deadlift.
Barbell hack squats (aka behind the back deadlifts) are better than back squats for hypertrophy of the quads because they take out the lower back focus, which allows you to go for higher volume with no lower back fatigue.
The only downside is that it doesn't work the glutes and lower back but if you do romanian deadlifts, you can work both of those and the hamstrings at the same time, so you don't really need back squats unless you're a powerlifter.
@@lazo3251 Whatever. Go argue with Bugenhagen, he is the strength coach. I just quoted what he said.
PS No one gives a shit what some Nancy boys who call themselves "Buff Dudes" think.
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The way he explained a hack squat is confusing....what it basically is is a deadlift with the bar behind you. No rack needed...
Agree. But it is pretty much impossible to lift heavy. I think it still has value, just maybe not for pure powerlifting
@@edx21x as some of the other comments suggested, check out Eric Bugenhagen's channel
@@edx21x No, it's not impossible to lift heavy. The vast majority of people don't practice it enough to get a good enough technique, thus they can't lift much weight. And then they go around saying how it's impossible.
@@sven-sandershestakov5201 to be honest I’ve never given it much thought. I did them years ago and haven’t since. There’s just a lot of movements I find more useful for me so I don’t mess with them.
Thank you!! I really don't think this dude knows WTF he's talking about!!
Look up Eric Bugenhagen, he does these.
It's Del Bugez payday!
Yep he does them superheavy
th-cam.com/video/atcJyMVb0S8/w-d-xo.html but don't send Eric the money, sent it to me, Rip. Eric did the lift but I sent the video.
Poor Rip doesn't know.
I'm not here to argue what a hack squat is but I would say that Eric doesn't do what rip describes. He doesn't squat it and then pull it back up he's doing a deadlift with the bar behind him
First... You obviously didn't follow Rip's instructional shirt
_The Bugez wants to know your location_
Curlean-X I noticed you disagree with rips video on why he doesn’t like the trap bar. You normally explain you’re view point rather well so id like to hear what you disagree with regarding that video.
@@18yearoldconservativefromc60 Thanks. Yeah, so I disagree that "it's completely useless." The trap bar is a valid way to build strength (in that type of deadlift pattern) and size. It's not "dangerous" since no exercises are dangerous unless loaded too quickly and aggressively. The "sagittal" plane stuff is not an issue to worry about because as someone practices the movement, that sagittal movement becomes less of an issue, and the people adapt to that position to be able to tolerate that instability far better. That's why this supposed problem never even manifests in practice.
I also disagree that people won't be able to lift as much as a straight bar with a trap bar. Whether it's a regular trap bar (low handles) or a high handled trap bar, when done for a long enough time, those numbers should dwarf a conventional/sumo deadlift by 100-200 lbs.
These were the main points of the video to my memory. I wouldn't tell people to do the trap bar deadlift over the straight bar since I'm biased to the straight bar as well and would rather coach conventional deadlifts, but I don't think there's anything wrong with the trap bar.
Curlean-X nice, makes sense to me. Thanks for the info.
Hi from Libya. Big fan of your podcast RIP. You changed my idea about lifting weights a d since starting listening to your podcast I progressed alot on my lifting numbers, for example 3 months ago my deadlift max was just below 100kg, today I pulled 144kg. Thank you
I've done the hacksquat with 230kg, where do i send the video?
And also 320kg Jefferson deadlift. So... Where do I send that video?
@@NoOoDLe666 I wanna know this too. Never tried the Jefferson, but 500lbs on the hack squat is very doable, & have gone near that weight before. I imagine the Jefferson is wayyyy easier than conventional deadlift. Seems kinda technical too.
Barbell hack squat
My experience with the Jefferson's is the opposite. I wrecked my lower back with front squats doing them too deep and wanted something for the time my back recovers. The Jefferson's give my back zero issues. Going heavy it is difficult to maintain good form for knee position.
Sticky Ricky: tell em to bring me my money
The hack squat is a great way of developing quads that have the sort of tear drops that the starting strength crew only see when Rip gets to an all you can eat buffet 5 minutes after it shut.
LMFAO! So much shade in these comments. I'm on yalls side tho lol
The barbell hack squat starts with the bar on the floor, such as a deadlift does. You walk up to the bar with it behind you with the bar on the floor.
The problem is you cant extend your low back
@@the_third_sun maybe not, it looks like a hex bar deadlift but with as much of a leg bend as a squat
Some people differentiate between a hack deadlift (from the floor) and a hack squat (from the top position)
Or, and bear with me, you pick it up from the ground? Revolutionary idea, I know. Another advantage of this is that you immediately know if you can do the exercise with sufficient ROM. Can you pikc it up with decent form? No? lighten the weight.
His whole premise is ridiculous. He picks an arbitrary weight (500 lbs) and says if you can't barbell hack squat this arbitrary amount, what's the use? I can't front squat 500 lbs, but I still do them. I can't bench 300 lbs, but I still do them. Some people can barbell hack squat 500 lbs. Some, more than that. That it's difficult makes it worth the effort. And, many accomplished lifters swear by them. Maybe they should have asked this windbag first.
My guess is he is talking on starting strength criteria of lifting. So he says if you can lift heavy on hack squat why do it , he is propably refering to hack squat as a main excersise i guess and he is propably saying you can do sth else as a main. I personally feel its a really good excersise and indeed i am doing it as an assistant excersise for 10-12reps not main
is this your first rippetoe video?… the guys is hardcore dogmatic… to him and his cultists, if its not “starting strength,” its trash
I think the idea of the Jefferson's is to reduce back injury as well as add some anti rotational work?
Hack Squat was the first and only movement that built my outer quads. Thanks for the "advice".
Same lol
@@oo-sb4ps Rip is fantastic for beginners, but he's got a nack for making up weird reasons for not doing exercises he just doesn't like, without just saying that.
heavy hacks hurt my hips vs squats dont hes got a point about your hips not moving
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Anyone else feel like jeffersons are easier on the back? CDLs have a much greater lever arm than a JDL (which is directly below you). I feel "twisted up" a bit before post-workout stretching, but it doesn't tax the back at all.
they are, some advanced powerlifters use them instead of CDLs to deload the spine if back injuries occur
They definitely are. He's just making shit up
Honestly I think barbell hack squat is a good exercise I do them occasionally for years and got up 460 for 6 reps just take time and practice like anything else..and my qauds be on fire!!!🔥 so I have to disagree
Better DM Rip your address so he can mail out that check! Get it on video!
Haven’t watched yet, I bet he says they’re worthless for anyone and everyone seeing as how they aren’t in his book
Naturally. Every lift in existence except the 5 in the book done precisely the way he likes is WORTHLESS.
I like bar hack squat. I do as an assistant excersise for 10-12reps.
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“Internet guide to peace and happiness - Never, ever read the comments.” Great wisdom.😂
That's why he doesn't know about Eric Buganhagen 700+ hack squats
I don’t think Rip recommends hack squats because he fully doesn’t understand it himself. His description of it was very confusing and I pictured something completely different until I watched videos of it. Hack squats are basically just reverse deadlifts
What about zercher squat?
And what about the Jefferson Curl?
For the barbell hack squat, why not just lift it from the ground?
I know this is old but how much weight are you talkin with barbell hack squats?
I’m 130-135lbs and just tried them for the first time before finding your video and I did 320x2
The Jefferson squat is a superb quad and glute exercise when performed correctly. It's not about lifting heavy. it's about activation. My quads started getting significantly stronger once i added this to my routine. Jeffersons rock!!
I can do 315 barbell hack squat 3 reps max
The best assistance for my deadlift was always the squat, but I am not longer able to get my shoulders back far enough to support the weight. The hack squat machine has been a suitable alternative. It has built power and size in my quads and has no doubt helped my deadlift. I also do not agree that one has to pile on a shit load of weight on this machine. I do great with 10-12 reps per set at a lower weight. I do agree they can be hard on the knees if done to deep or if done incorrectly.
I did it how do I send you the video
Rip how do you feel about barbell/dumbbell pullovers
The Reverse Hack Squat allows for hip movement and I quite like them. Not sure how useful they are for powerlifting but I feel like they could be used to sneak in some extra volume without creating a ton of systemic fatigue
Why are walking out of a rack with a barbell to do hack squats. Isn’t it hack deadlifts if done from floor with a barbell?
Rip didn't need to tell me about the hack squat, my knees already screamed it to me.
I attended the 1970 world weightlifting competition and world bodybuilding competition amateur and professional.
One of the amateur bodybuilders did an exhibition on stage.
He did a hack squat with a barbell from the floor of 700 lb.
This is the same venue in which Alexia broke the world record in the clean and jerk of 500 lb.
So you're incorrect
jeffersons for reps for leg hypertrophy, barbell hack squat is for different breed of gains, u have to work 360 any stance any lift.
How much should I need to hack squat for Rip to send me some cash?
Barbell hack squat is an great exercise.. its not because you don’t know how to do it that is bad Lmaoo
Eric Bugenhagen did it with 765lbs,alphadestiny did a big number too.It's a great exercice
@@ir0n_bb170 Eric actually did 880 a few years ago
Whats the point in it though? When you can Deadlift and back Squat
Well ,we have lifting game in India it call strengthlifting we compete in 3 lifts, incline bench, Barbell curl and Hack lift.
@@connorw360 it's much easier on the lower back if you can't squat
What about lowbar hack squat
I think Jeffersons can be good for fixing muscle imbalances. I’m sure there are better ways to go about doing it though.
I tried the hack squat once, I grabbed the bar loaded with some amount of weight and yank the bar slamming it right into my ass feeling a jarring sensation in my back, I then set the bar down unloaded that shit and left.
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When will Jordan ever learn about the sagittal plane .... come on Jordan 😠
Right? Fuggin mouth breather.
There is a hack squat machine with handles that mimics a barbell hack squat. Its a great warm up.
So is an empty barbell.
nice tshirt!
Too bad he'll never know...
635lb Barbell Hack Lift back when I was 45 years old: th-cam.com/video/6KfnOHpHoUs/w-d-xo.html
Eric Bugenhagen +$100
"Saggital plane" doesn't stop with the Trap Bar it appears.
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Is he saying a hack squat from the rack down and back to the rack? I agree that is impossible to do heavy. but ive never seen anyone do that. it's a deadlift. Maybe everyone is using the incorrect terminology.
Someone tell kevin oak about the challenge. I'm pretty sure he could do it lol
Round your back a lot it's safe. You won't hit your ass or fall over. Jefferson rack pulls are safe.
round your back in a Hack Squat?
@@dannyhitsprs9301 with a behind the back deadlift yeah. The weight is in behind you therefore there is not a lot of pressure on the lower back. Maybe watch an alpha destiny vid where he explains it
High reps on a hack machine with lots of warmups will reduce the risk of injury.
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Damn Rip, could you be so wrong on almost everything mentioned in this video?
Hack squat as a machine squat definitely has its use as a quad developing exercise. In the training time where you focus on hypertrophy (if you want to get stronger you have to get bigger i really hope i dont have to explain this) a hack squat can be used
1) As an assistance movement to avoid adaptive resistance on a regular squat
2) As an assistance movement to menage fatigue, as a light squat
3) As a way to add more volume to your quads without doing something totally unspesific such as leg extensions (again, not something that i need to explain i hope, you can not grow forever by just doing fahves and singles, you need volume)
So how is a hack squat useless again Rip? Is it the absolute best squat variation? No. Probably not. Is it useless most definitely not.
And when it comes to behind the back squat, i think Eric Bugenhagen did like 800+ pounds on that thing, so you may wanna send him some cash.
My point is, i really really dont understand why does Rip render everything that isnt 110% optimal as useless? Is he being so dogmatic for the sake of trolling? Is he really unaware that an exercise can be just okay and not perfect or useless?
Also, Jefferson deadlift can not be done heavy? Well, if hevier than a conventional deadlift isnt heavy enough, that of course they can not be done heavy.
The way Rip described barbell hack squat is a different thing. BugeZ did behind back deadlift. (even tho some ppl call that barbell hack squat)
“No hip movement in the sagital plane” just watch the vid
@@bubhinson I forgot to address that. So what? You are taking the hiep drahve meme too seriously, hips are not the only thing that drives the squat up. Because it has no hip movement in a sagital plane its less spesific to a squat, but so what? For the reasons i explained above, that doesnt matter. Its an assistance exercise, its supposed to be unspesific in some way.
@Mike Greer A weird compliment to get after criticizing some of Rip's ideas hahaha. Thank you.
Lohengramm 14 Machine exercises are useless because they dont replicate normal body movements or ROM, dont incorperate balance, heavy weights and restrict movement necessary to require proper form with for example hip drive needed to correctly perform a squat.
1) An assistance exercise is the pause squat for example to help with bottom of the squat. Not a machine quad push which dosnt make your squat go up, therefore useless for assisting anything. And squats are never "adapted to" they are a normal body movement which you will do for the rest of your life if you follow his program.
2) Managing fatigue by squatting light is by guess what genius... squatting with lighter weight.
3) Add mass to your quads? We dont operate in body parts when strength training and even if we did we would still do deadlifts or squats cause they train the quads more than some silly machine. Why? Cause we can lift heavier weight with full range of motion. Very simple and as i said before the body works as a system.
So how is the hack squat useless? Watch the video again and if you still dont know come back to me. Your the one spreading dogma. Stop listening to roid heads and bodybuilding.com lol.
Also why would you self admittedly do anything else less than optimal? Wierd.
I've only ever seen barbell hack squats done from the floor
My max is 455 hack deadlift and only 425 conventional deadlift
I'm up to 365 max on barbell hack squat
I’m certain I can barbell hack squat 500lbs
I will send you a video
Wow, strongly disagree with his opinion with the barbell hack squat. Like he said, you can't a lot of weight with it but it makes your knees bulletproof which in my opinion makes it 100% worth. You can just say it's ridiculous, there's a reason why Hackeschmidt was able to run 5 miles at 80 years old and jump over 5 foot chair 50 times once a week at 80.
TH-camr KneesOverToes // Rip what is your thoughts on his workouts, would love to hear your opinion on his fancy half loaded movments ;D haha
Due to a spinal deformity the hack deadlift is the only way I can deadlift
I don’t use machine a lot if ever.
Lmao I love this guy 🤣🤣🤣
I hope he sees Eric bugenhagen
Lol lifted 200 kg btb deadlift first time trying today
I am amongst the elite hairline
Cain't get hip driiivuh.
Rick Van Hagen 500lb hack squat
*stares in Platz
Just need the mind set
Yup look up the boog
Lol!! I do it 😂😂
This is false Mr. Fat Folk. Both variations did help improve both my barbell strength (pushing of the floor) and enhance my core strength. I can say your knowledge is good for beginners but not experienced lifters. Lifting isn’t all about 3-5x3-5 on compound lifts. You can start with a squat/ bench for example the finish your session with pull ups for reps and end with 2-3 sets of curls or extensions for 8-10 reps. Always end with core training to as you could actually train core/ perform steady state cardio on a daily basis
Psst...
(He never reads the comments) 😉
You hack squat with a bar of the floor, just like a deadlift.
Eric Bugenhagen did this with 900 pounds.. just saying
Will I get money if I send you video of heavy Hack lifting done by people? 🤣
More money than I think you'll send 😆
There's a few people mentioning eric bugenhagen here, but even excluding eric, i know loads of people who perform the hack squat just fine. This guy is wrong on so many levels lol
What ? Just load the bar on the ground as you do for deadlift lol
it doesnt allow for hip movement in the sagital plane 🤓
Actually much more reasonable than I thought, not that I care for those but still.
Here is Eric Bugenhagen doing a 725 lb barbell hack lift:
th-cam.com/video/KdqotBUcS5I/w-d-xo.html
I did them in my teens with sets of 10 with 315. They will fry your quads. As an old guy, they are not as fun for me or my lower back.
I go poo poo in the sagital plane.
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