kinda yea, cuz 140 damage in 1 shot is crazy. kinda annoying for retakes though, because the attackers can easily counter it by playing close corners, and take advantage of those long reloads@@madisondebruyne3883
@@madisondebruyne3883 used it alot today and its way too slow, the gun is never actually worth buying its in such a niche category of guns where the marshal is less than half the price and still 1 taps to the head, same with guardian which is much more flexible. basically, it looks/sounds cool but feels mad clunky with the huge recoil and long reload, but especially when it costs just below a rifle cost (u can literally just light armor rifle instead of heavy armor outlaw) it just wont ever be a good gun if they dont fix it by adjusting price, reload, ammo count etc...
the problem with this challenge is one of the best things about the outlaw is that you can body shot then switch to classic and one-tap them. not allowing them to switch to pistols is kind of unfair
One advantage the marshals had was they always had the ability to buy full armor, thus getting rid of the outlaws main strength. Both 1 tap to the head and 2 tap to the body in this scenario. The only difference is the marshals had a larger clip and faster reload while the outlaw can fire off its two bullets faster. That is why the match was so close.
yeah the outlaw seems like its main strength is going to be counter-eco. one-tapping half shields is really strong so long as the enemy team actually has half shields
@@HarshSharma-tw4rf Oh I guess I misread it. I thought he was saying the infinite creds were the only reason the marshals stood a chance, when with or without the infinite creds they'd still have enough to buy marshal and full shield most of the time
The outlaw is a niche gun that should only really be used on large maps or anti-ecos. It's also amazing when paired with pistols (-deag). The fact this video doesn't allow the use of pistols takes away from the outlaws strengths.
a very miniscule difference is that the outlaw's 1 scope setting is a lot more zoomed than the marshall's which makes close range fights a lot harder. this problem is irrelevant for the op because it has 2 scope settings
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Considering how even it is when there's been so little practice with using outlaw, I think it's eventually going to surpass it. I honestly think riot added it just because of the difference in price between the op and marshal.
I don't know why you didn't expect it tbh. What is the difference from 140 dmg and 105 dmg if you can't switch to your classic. They're essentially the same gun and with the 15day reload speed the marshal is the better option.
In my opinion better compersion would be if it were 2 teams with let's say First team is 3 marshalas ans 2 outlaws and the second 3 outlaws and 2 marshalas - then just see who top frags. I know some players are better than others and some agents are better for playing snipes due to death secure but 5v5 diffrent wepones is i think more risky for accidental stats than putting both wepones on the same team.
Told them not to use pistols.... THAT IS THE STRENGTH OF THE OUTLAW. Body second shot and hotswap cause one bullet from any pistol will kill if you bodied them and missed the second bullet
If they have max shield it will always be 2 shot kill or headshot, the only difference is the bullets, so the Marshalls should win Edit: another difference is the wall bang strength (which doesn’t would only make a difference if the wallbang were a headshot) and the speed at which the outlaw shoots. The shot spread is also different, but considering you will most likely be ADSed it doesn’t matter much
0:35 prediction marshal wins outlaw is only good if they got light shiled OR has a ghost or any other gun that can deal the remainin 10 dmg not good close range takes a long time to reload marshal can quickly do 100 dmg and fast reload and good close range too +more bullets 4:26 outlaws comp is insane good using the outlaw marshals messed up
For some reason I don't know I could get more kills on marahal than the outlaw. Outlaw must be more powerful, but I miss shots alot on that gun. But not in marshal. Sounds like skill issue ofc.
reason is was so close is because they all had full shield so its 2 shots to kill(if shot hits body) for marshal and outlaw. if there were other teammates with other guns or pistols to finish off the remaining 10hp outlaw easily wins
its balanced its just that this challenge was kind of unfair since its made for light shields and also they werent allowed to switch to pistols to finish the marshals off so its basically just whichever shoots and reloads faster
in an infinite economy situation, the marshal wins due to ammo. both are 2-bodies/1-head. outlaw has 2 in the mag and a painful reload. the other has a stupid fast reload and good hip-fire accuracy. in a limited economy situation, the outlaw performs better. that being said, KJ is the best outlaw user since all of her kit supports 1-bodying people with it from a distance
imo the outlaw is better. My first game going outlaw only I got 6 4ks, and I have never been good with the marshal even when holding an angle with good ch placement. The outlaw just feels easier in my hand and kinda just attracts me idk. It just feels better than the marshal.
I hate this new meta, Im always broke trying to buy full shields so i don't die in one shot. Like if you lose first round you're probably going to lose the next
The outlaw deals 40% more damage than the Marshall, so by that logic I'm predicting the outlaw will win with a 40% higher score. Meaning 9/10 for Marshall and 13 for outlaw.
its def not a worse marshall, 140 to the body is easy clean with any wallbang, classic shot, and vandal/phantom shot, whereas a marshall to the body is still 2 vandal/phantom shots
"they made this gun to fix something the pros are abusing" you get that revelation only NOW??? every time pros abuse something (which was fun to use and play in lower ranks btw) like rightclick classic, rightclick bucky, judge, astra, viper, it gets nerfed into the ground whereas stuff thats extremely annoying on low ranks, reyna, neon, sniper, smurfing, gets either buffed or ignored riot doesnt care about the majority of its playerbase and yes i just checked majority of players is silver to gold riot just cares about its top 3% i dont think thats healthy tbh and it kinda already discouraged me from playing the game already also honestly they could have just upped headshot damage for bulldog to 125 and not include ANOTHER DUMB SNIPER that way getting around the half shield meta is still a skillcheck and they make an underrated weapon more viable in pro play
I genuinely think the outlaw should be a three barrel sniper. It’ll make it that much more fun and also make it slightly more viable. Increased reload time would also balance it out
I think this is an unfair fight while the marshal is used in eco rounds or semi ones while the outlaw is meant to punish those scenarios. Also the outlaw is just a recent addition making it hard to use it without polishing at its fullest even to high ranks.
read your comment again bro. You are stating that marshal is used in eco rounds and outlaw is meant to punish that. So why did outlaw not punish marshal here. Can you explain what you are trying to say. Are you trying to say that buying full shields as marshall is a full buy or something?
@@dharshdanube6911 Marshal plus heavy shield is called as semieco not an eco. That's why the marshal won an eco round is at max marshal+light shield because you want to be efficient with your money and save some credits for the next round.
The outlaws reload is slower than my brain on a monday morning
it kinda balances it out, no?
kinda yea, cuz 140 damage in 1 shot is crazy. kinda annoying for retakes though, because the attackers can easily counter it by playing close corners, and take advantage of those long reloads@@madisondebruyne3883
Facts 😂😂
For a sniper that does 140 to the body and u dont unscope after a single shot i think the slightly slower reload is worth
@@madisondebruyne3883 used it alot today and its way too slow, the gun is never actually worth buying its in such a niche category of guns where the marshal is less than half the price and still 1 taps to the head, same with guardian which is much more flexible. basically, it looks/sounds cool but feels mad clunky with the huge recoil and long reload, but especially when it costs just below a rifle cost (u can literally just light armor rifle instead of heavy armor outlaw) it just wont ever be a good gun if they dont fix it by adjusting price, reload, ammo count etc...
the problem with this challenge is one of the best things about the outlaw is that you can body shot then switch to classic and one-tap them. not allowing them to switch to pistols is kind of unfair
One advantage the marshals had was they always had the ability to buy full armor, thus getting rid of the outlaws main strength. Both 1 tap to the head and 2 tap to the body in this scenario. The only difference is the marshals had a larger clip and faster reload while the outlaw can fire off its two bullets faster. That is why the match was so close.
They would have had full shields most of the time anyways since they were just buying marshals
yeah the outlaw seems like its main strength is going to be counter-eco. one-tapping half shields is really strong so long as the enemy team actually has half shields
@@Sploinkssthat's exactly what he said?
@@HarshSharma-tw4rf Oh I guess I misread it. I thought he was saying the infinite creds were the only reason the marshals stood a chance, when with or without the infinite creds they'd still have enough to buy marshal and full shield most of the time
@@SploinkssNah the point is that in real games it'd be some gun + light shields vs Outlaw, which Outlaw wins.
The outlaw is a niche gun that should only really be used on large maps or anti-ecos. It's also amazing when paired with pistols (-deag). The fact this video doesn't allow the use of pistols takes away from the outlaws strengths.
a very miniscule difference is that the outlaw's 1 scope setting is a lot more zoomed than the marshall's which makes close range fights a lot harder. this problem is irrelevant for the op because it has 2 scope settings
I thought they were both 3.5x. I probably read wrong.
@@dinnerboons1504 you read correctly. It's the exact same scope.
Both the marshal and outlaw have the same scopes as of now. I don't know what the fk even you are blabbing about jason
love your insane and funny vids, keep it up :)
you should do the two match, same setting but both exchange their gun, which is more fair and accurate to compare it
Content idea: 5 high ranked players with all different languages are only allowed to communicate in their native languages Vs 5 silver/golds with normal Comms
Considering how even it is when there's been so little practice with using outlaw, I think it's eventually going to surpass it. I honestly think riot added it just because of the difference in price between the op and marshal.
The way he said "we have domain expansion as well" 😂
Glad both teams were locked in, it got super intense towards the end
I don't know why you didn't expect it tbh. What is the difference from 140 dmg and 105 dmg if you can't switch to your classic. They're essentially the same gun and with the 15day reload speed the marshal is the better option.
If you did this with actual eco and you could only buy marshal/outlaw i think outlaw would destroy purely because of light shield
Can U please start adding thoughts and opinions of top fraggers after the match in ur videos?
Its really sad for me because i normally play always half shield expect i got 6k and above credits. Now i need to full...
it makes full more worth it, honestly just great for balancing the game imo
I do wonder if this was just a showcase of who was more skilled more than a showcase of guns
That was my idea ty for using it 😊
In my opinion better compersion would be if it were 2 teams with let's say First team is 3 marshalas ans 2 outlaws and the second 3 outlaws and 2 marshalas - then just see who top frags. I know some players are better than others and some agents are better for playing snipes due to death secure but 5v5 diffrent wepones is i think more risky for accidental stats than putting both wepones on the same team.
love the guy who said domain exspansion
this was surprisingly, a really close game
Next video: Bulldog vs Vandal which is better???
Told them not to use pistols.... THAT IS THE STRENGTH OF THE OUTLAW. Body second shot and hotswap cause one bullet from any pistol will kill if you bodied them and missed the second bullet
If they have max shield it will always be 2 shot kill or headshot, the only difference is the bullets, so the Marshalls should win
Edit: another difference is the wall bang strength (which doesn’t would only make a difference if the wallbang were a headshot) and the speed at which the outlaw shoots.
The shot spread is also different, but considering you will most likely be ADSed it doesn’t matter much
0:35 prediction
marshal wins
outlaw is only good if they got light shiled OR has a ghost or any other gun that can deal the remainin 10 dmg
not good close range takes a long time to reload
marshal can quickly do 100 dmg and fast reload and good close range too
+more bullets
4:26
outlaws comp is insane good using the outlaw marshals messed up
For some reason I don't know I could get more kills on marahal than the outlaw. Outlaw must be more powerful, but I miss shots alot on that gun. But not in marshal. Sounds like skill issue ofc.
all though its a video about marshal vs outlaw, aim matters too
16:02 JIT SAID DOMAIN EXPANSION 🎉
Ryioiki tenkai😶
reason is was so close is because they all had full shield so its 2 shots to kill(if shot hits body) for marshal and outlaw. if there were other teammates with other guns or pistols to finish off the remaining 10hp outlaw easily wins
is nobody gonna talk about the new kuronami knife looks like jett ult when jett switches to knife in this video????
You should make a challenge where a high rank team cannot com, like nothing vs a lower rank team.
I guess they will buff the putlaw in kind of reloading. Maybe adding another bullets? That i can load 3 billets would be really nice i guess
its balanced its just that this challenge was kind of unfair since its made for light shields and also they werent allowed to switch to pistols to finish the marshals off so its basically just whichever shoots and reloads faster
Ironically the name of dumpling is actually what are you doing dumpling in Chinese
in an infinite economy situation, the marshal wins due to ammo. both are 2-bodies/1-head. outlaw has 2 in the mag and a painful reload. the other has a stupid fast reload and good hip-fire accuracy. in a limited economy situation, the outlaw performs better. that being said, KJ is the best outlaw user since all of her kit supports 1-bodying people with it from a distance
make outlaws vs operater it will be fun
start adding thoughts and opinions of top fraggers after the match in ur videos
imo the outlaw is better. My first game going outlaw only I got 6 4ks, and I have never been good with the marshal even when holding an angle with good ch placement. The outlaw just feels easier in my hand and kinda just attracts me idk. It just feels better than the marshal.
only sniper would be cool like everyone can only buy sniper except for pistol round
I hate this new meta, Im always broke trying to buy full shields so i don't die in one shot. Like if you lose first round you're probably going to lose the next
Then save instead of forcing.
i feel like the players playing marshall were better plus the outlaw is new and has weird recoil that most people arent really used to
The outlaw deals 40% more damage than the Marshall, so by that logic I'm predicting the outlaw will win with a 40% higher score. Meaning 9/10 for Marshall and 13 for outlaw.
I think the outlaw is a perfect round 2 buy if you win the first round. Since enemies Don't usually have heavy shields then it is budget op
Exactly
the jett is lagging man. she clearly shot iso body frame by frame but still the bullet somehow didnt hit
is this HK server
I see the deadlock hav 20ping only since the name is Cantonese
the iso is a marshal demon ngl
thank you :)
bro in low elo second and 3rd round us always half shield
need an animated outlaw skin
I could hear u typing on ur phone lmao
I mean kinda goes to proving the gun is more or less on balance
first time seeing a hong kong player in these custom game
tbh my sniper from now on outlaw because looks powerful
1:22 Looks kinda sus tho
Hello I’d like to compete bc I think for iron 3 I’m pretty good ngl but let me get in one of these videos anyways lmk if I can or not?
outlaw is more niche than the marshall and when everyone can buy full shields the niche of the outlaw is gone and becomes a worse marshall.
its def not a worse marshall, 140 to the body is easy clean with any wallbang, classic shot, and vandal/phantom shot, whereas a marshall to the body is still 2 vandal/phantom shots
kj turret + outlaw is OP.
Why is balanced?
Coz with big shields, bot Marshal and Outlaw need 1 Head shoot or 2 Body shoots to kill
4:55 he was not 1 hp LMAO
"they made this gun to fix something the pros are abusing"
you get that revelation only NOW???
every time pros abuse something (which was fun to use and play in lower ranks btw) like rightclick classic, rightclick bucky, judge, astra, viper, it gets nerfed into the ground
whereas stuff thats extremely annoying on low ranks, reyna, neon, sniper, smurfing, gets either buffed or ignored
riot doesnt care about the majority of its playerbase and yes i just checked majority of players is silver to gold
riot just cares about its top 3%
i dont think thats healthy tbh and it kinda already discouraged me from playing the game already
also honestly they could have just upped headshot damage for bulldog to 125 and not include ANOTHER DUMB SNIPER
that way getting around the half shield meta is still a skillcheck and they make an underrated weapon more viable in pro play
NEXT CONTENT AFTER WARDS OUTLAW VS OP
Holy fk why doesn’t anyone hip fire when close range lol it’s literally a shotty sniper
Reducing damage to 130 will be a good nerf
outlaw is like a guardian but with 3.5 scope and 2 bullets only xDD
to be fair anyone playing with the outlaw doesnt have experience with it
good video but all the knives kills somehow miss the point of the video. It is about the snipers
anyone else like capybaras
I love outlaw
its like that gun in CS2
just relised this means i dont have a skin for every gun
I'll call keami in
Do that. 1 more time with kaemi
They are almost the same in 150 hp
marshalls had skins advantage though
Outlaws shouldn’t of had unlimited bullets tbh
Og marshal no diffs
i think in starting round it was just skill diff
marshal players won without having smokes too, wow
Outlaw?
Idk about u guys but I still believe the marshal has a better value
I genuinely think the outlaw should be a three barrel sniper. It’ll make it that much more fun and also make it slightly more viable. Increased reload time would also balance it out
I think this is an unfair fight while the marshal is used in eco rounds or semi ones while the outlaw is meant to punish those scenarios. Also the outlaw is just a recent addition making it hard to use it without polishing at its fullest even to high ranks.
read your comment again bro. You are stating that marshal is used in eco rounds and outlaw is meant to punish that. So why did outlaw not punish marshal here. Can you explain what you are trying to say. Are you trying to say that buying full shields as marshall is a full buy or something?
@@dharshdanube6911
Marshal plus heavy shield is called as semieco not an eco. That's why the marshal won an eco round is at max marshal+light shield because you want to be efficient with your money and save some credits for the next round.
W video makes me happy
Yes
outlaw is better if you can't aim
If they make reload a little faster it would be viable
I’m fr gonna unsubscribe if you don’t inv kaemi
Who just liked
Phoenix the goat
Gyat
Ye marshal
Outlaw is mid
I am marshal main and I simply think outlaw and marshal is basically the same strength
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hello
Great vid#2mingang
marshal still better for my play style
the reason marshals are doing so well is because they have skins wich means aimbot
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