My parents tried to stop us from reading comic books. They told us about the book of Judges for it's heroes and action. I remember reading it thinking, "he did what!?!?" It thought it was worse than anything I had ever read in a comic book.
I've heard it said that a lot of comic book creators back in the 1950s were Jewish kids who were inspired by the stories of the golem and in the Bible too.
Christian apologists will simply counter saying, "just because people disobey the law doesn't mean it's not written on our hearts". I kind of hate that I've heard so many garbage apologetics that I can answer from their pov.
Thanks for this video man. I have family that talk on and on about the evils of homosexuality, yet look at the verses of Jephthah sacrificing his daughter as a burnt offering and don't blink an eye. It is incredibly frustrating. Instead of admitting that it is wrong, they go out and buy the book "Is God A Moral Monster?" to have Paul Copan tell them it is ok.
@bluelaser9447 The justifications in that book are so disgusting. Edit: I'd reccomend reading Thom Starks response to that book "Is God a Moral Comprimiser" it's really good and it's free to download online.
At least the Jews or some of them are more honest; Rabbi Tovia Singer is on record that Jephthah was an idiot and the book of Judges was about the people constantly getting it wrong. But still he is mum about what Yahweh was thinking about this the whole time.
This is the same reason I left Christianity. I just couldn't justify all these atrocities, and then I found out these people weren't evil as the Bible claims, which makes god even worse.
Yes have them TEACH ANY OF THIS. YWH MASS GENOICDE of BABIES, PREGNANT WOMAN, ANIMALS, YWH SLAVERY, STONE LAWS, EAT FLESH AND YOUR KIDS FLESH, YWH CREATES EVIL. WOMAN UNCLEAN EACH MONTH or when they have KIDS. Keep INNOCENT WOAN and Children for yourselves. Just a TAD of what THEY DON'T TEACH.
@daniele.3361 nothing really, it's just a fascinatingly bloody book. You have the typical stories that are usually told in Sunday school like Gideon, Deborah, Jael, etc. And then you have the story of the levite and his concubine who gets murdered, so the levite cuts her body into 12 pieces to send to each of the tribes of Israel and as a result more people die, etc. The history section of the Bible tends towards violence in general. Favorite section to read as a 3rd grader in church. Love the Bible as a historic text and important piece of literature though. These sections always gave me a grimm's fairytale vibe
It’s hilarious to think how the church I used to go to would spin the story of Jepthah to erase the child sacrifice part. I was taught the daughter went into the mountains to mourn her virginity, because she wasn’t allowed to ever marry or have babies and that was the sacrifice. Because doing that meant her life was basically over because as we all know that was all a woman was good for. So she wasn’t actually killed lol.
My father uses this justification as well. He says the focus on the virginity is proof that she wasn’t killed, but will have no way of continuing her family line. Thus, the sacrifice is Jepthah’s daughter becoming some kind of nun due to her father’s vow… makes some twisted sense even though it requires so many hoops to jump through. I also don’t know why a divinely inspired book will allow a child sacrifice interpretation if the sacrifice is the virginity… it’s such a weird story
Imagine you have a friend who says they know this really wise and awesome guy, with great advice for every aspect of life, and that guy gave him his diary to learn from, which he loans you; there IS some good advice in it, sure, but it's sandwiched between details of how he firebombs his neighbors, keeps young girls prisoner in his basement, and other horrible stuff. Is this really a guy worth following? What do you tell your friend about his new mentor?
If I went by a field and saw in the distance a woman being gang raped-I would try to do something about it. At the very least I would call 911. In the book of Proverbs,it says that god is everywhere beholding the evil and the good.In other words, god watches evil things happening and does nothing.
When I was a Christian and people would ask my favorite bible verse, I loved answering Judges 4:21. It’s about a guy getting a tent peg hammered through his skull but no one (except me) knows that off the top of their head.
One of my favorite lines in the Bible is in Judges, coming from a letter allegedly written from Jephthah to the King of the Ammonites. Judges 11:23 -- "Will you not take what your god Chemosh gives you? Likewise, whatever Yhwh our God has given us, we will possess." To me, that's the single most direct piece of evidence that the early Israelite religion was polytheistic, and only became monotheistic later.
What about the first testament story where God apparently aided Samson in the murder of 30 men just so Samson could steal their clothes to pay off a gambling debt!
He was captured, blinded, and enslaved by the Philistines, but in the end God granted Samson his revenge; through the return of his old strength, he demolished the great Philistine temple of the god Dagon, at Gaza, destroying his captors and himself. His ending was just really horrible and absolutely disgusting.
What events would you create to show the world is still a sinful place, even with fallen angels gone? Jesus was the only sinless member of the 12 Tribes. Even Moses died a sinner. Israel went straight into civil war after they got to the promised land. How many 100,000 died in wars that resulted from a concubine being dismembered?
No One made me Join did it myself. I DIDN'T READ the FILTHY, EVIL, PSYCHO BOOK. Thought they were stories about YWH and such. I found christendumb2 and he showed me YWH BOOK has MANY, Contradictions and ALL his BOOK is True. That all I NEEDED. Then did Videos on the rest of the BOOK. WHAT EVIL.
I truly love talking to theist about such horrors in the Bible then they say, "Well that's the Old Testament." Yet, they'll cherry pick whatever else they want that fits their narrative or comfortable with. 🤦♂️
But the bible says that he is the same God as he was and that he never changes... My ex coworker sayed then - that's not true, that's not in the Bible. That was her answer on every problematic verse. I read that book, I fucking knew it was there, but she will always say that it's not true... Devote christians loves to gaslighting and brin the bible topic up in every room were it's don't belong.
Samson was the prototype of a taliban. When he had a plane back then, he would fly it in that building. He killed himself, which is a sin, and he killed many innocent people in there. The children in there done no harm to him... But he is the hero. There is also some magic going on without God's power with his hair...
It seems to me that God picked the wrong people. The Canaanites were able to remain loyal to their false Gods with no problem. Why the Israelites couldn't do the same to the real one is a mystery.
One of my favorite things about your channel, up and above the excellent information and Analysis, is how smooth and natural your delivery is. The flow of your talks feel smooth and Polished while simultaneously feeling totally natural and unscripted.
Thats a great compliment and really wonderful for me to hear. It is all unscripted. I do my research and reread each book right before i film and then hit play and go. I often feel its clumsy or redundant etc so thanks again.
Jephthah also loses points for effectively *blaming* his daughter for making HIM feel bad, even though SHE'S the one losing her life! Too bad she doesn't get the Isaac treatment...Still, I find it amusing to think that she bought herself a couple of months time up in the mountains to "mourn her virginity"; something tells me that by the time she came down, that was looong since sacrificed itself!
It's a perfect narcissist reasoning that it's her fault, and she makes him feel bad. He was up to get rid of his wife without taking responsibility for it. And surprise - his doaughter came aut. And God, as the greater narcissist, let him kill this innocent child for him.
People always talk about how Lot was willing to throw his young virgin daughters out to be gangraped by a mob, but few bring up the (curiously unnamed) guy at the end of Judges who actually DOES this with his wife/concubine...And then cuts up her body (possibly killing him himself, the wording is unclear) to MAIL her remains to each of the tribes! Today, that looks like *serial killer* behavior! While the tribal leadership is outraged, it's less so at him, then at the cause of the whole situation...and he never gets ANY comeuppance at all. Ugh...
Jesus called Lot a ‘righteous man’ even though he wanted his daughters to be gang raped and then later those same daughters got their daddy drunk and raped him on two successive nights. What people don’t talk about is how could Mr Lot obtain, maintain an erection and then orgasm inside his daughters two nights in a row while passed out drunk. The only true explanation was Mr Lot knew what was going on and feigned being drunk so he could screw his little girls. And then, against astronomical odds, BOTH daughters had male sons. And all this happened under the extreme stresses of being forced to leave their home, losing a wife and living in complete uncertainty in a cave. Normal males would be thinking of all those things and not even be able to get an erection. Btw, I wonder if Bill Cosby was inspired by the Lot story. After all, he drugged his victims before raping them just like the Lot girls did.
I'd put the sacrifice of Jephthah's daughter above even that... He made a _burnt offering_ out of her - and the preparations for _that_ are just gruesome. Skinning, collecting the blood, ... 🥴🤢
@@Wolf-ln1mlTrue, and Christians just lap it all up. When I ask them about all the people murdered in gods name they all say those people deserved to die. I guess you have to be a psychopath to be a Christian.
Thank you so much for this series! I attended Catholic school K - 12 but learned almost nothing of the Old Testament. We were taught about Adam and Eve, Noah, and Moses. That’s it. Now I know why. Even without the Old Testament, I was ready to leave the church as soon as I graduated from high school. I spent the next several decades trying to figure out my religious/spiritual beliefs before finally settling in my mind that I was an atheist.
I attended Catholic school from kindergarten to 3rd grade, then CCD until the end of 8th grade. Most of my religious education focused on prayers, sacraments, elements of mass, and the Stations of the Cross. We were taught some Bible stories and a few major figures, but little more. The first time I read the Bible cover to cover as a teenager, I was revolted by the evil it contained.
Jephthae is described in the New Testament as an example of faith for us to follow. See Hebrews 11:29-34. Yes, this Jephthae is the same Jephthah who sacrificed his daughter to Yahweh in Judges 11:29-40.
20 years ago when I read this book my heart broke about that child sacrifice and the part where God sent and evil spirit just blew my mind! And yet I kept ignoring it hoping that at some time later I would understand.
How about Keep the Virgins for yourself. How is it what 1,000, 2,000 years of OT these SCUMBAGS Followed this EVIL TRASH. Then 2,000 of OT, NT. HUMANS are EVIL, STUPID GARBAGE.
I always wondered why you would call killing somebody else a sacrifice. It's their life you are offering. Seems like if it was a sacrifice you would have to offer your own life.
23:30 … Deborah! I worked on an archaeological dig in Israel excavating a 5th century synagogue in Galilee. The excavation seasons spanned 12 years (2011 - 2023 with two years off due to the Covid Pandemic). The synagogue is large and features a mosaic floor covering the entire interior illustrating Biblical (Old Testament) and non-Biblical events (which is significant). Early on panels were revealed showing Samson and the flame-tailed foxes and Samson carrying off the gates of Gaza etc. In 2022 a section came to light that featured Deborah and the death of Sisera! Pretty significant! As far as we know this is the first depiction of a female Judge in a synagogue!
Yeah, when I first read Judges I was struck by the utter stupidity of the Israelis. They were always backsliding on YHWH at every opportunity - and it's not like YHWH was an unevidenced being in their lives - he was constantly intervening on their behalf and demonstrating to them that he existed. Good analysis of the genre, the best one yet. And I see that you blew thru the 5K subscriber mark! Congrats! I'm looking forward to the 10K subscriber party.
It is slightly more believable (though only slightly) if you consider that the historical Israelites were not monotheistic yet, and actually believed the rest of the Canaanite gods existed. It's hypothetically possible that they could've come to believe it was a different god that had caused the miracle, not Yahweh, and decided to "fuck around and find out," so to speak.
I was raised the daughter of a Baptist minister.We never spent much time devoted to OT study. Genesis, Exodus,a few Psalms,then straight on into the NT...I now know why. Most of my family remains in the dark. Occasionally,one will inquire as to the condition of my "immortal soul" and click their tongues when I tell them Im still an Atheist... I am the only one who has taken the time to study the Bible in earnest -they instead, continue on, in their blind ignorance. The god of the Abrahamic religions is the personification of evil. How anyone can read the Bible and come to the conclusion that their god is a god of love is beyond me. Thank you Brandon. You are doing important work.
The worst part of the Jepthah story for me is that Paul praises him for his faith. Can you imagine a family-murderer today being commended for his faith because he said to God beforehand, "If I get what I want, I'll sacrifice the first person in my family who comes out of the door"? No, that's not praiseworthy faith. That's psychosis and sociopathy.
I always thought that Jephthah expected an animal to be the first thing out of his house, a dog or goat-but i could be conflating it with later fairy tales such as The Silver Hands that use the same device. I never thought of all the other human candidates in the household
@@MindShift-Brandon not sure if you caught my baud2bitz comment on your Satan's hiddeness video but its a link to an early 20th century book about the devil through the ages.
Welcome to Judges! Most of this episode takes place in point 7, errors, contradictions, and especially problematic verses. Hope you learn something! ALSO last day to post questions for my Q&A. See my community tab.
Bravo! This is my favorite book breakdown yet! So much depraved material to work through. 🤢 Your gesture at 34:57 sums it up perfectly. 😂 I might also point out that Samson's Nazirite hair directly conflicts with Corinthians where it says it is a shame for a man to have long hair. No wonder the gate to righteousness is so narrow; it seems to move around a lot.
I was in a small church group and we did Judges. We thought it was pretty horrific too. The pastor saw it as an example of man’s desire to return to sin.
I think what's "great" is when some push hard and constantly about SKIRTS from the simple comment about MODESTY and yet with an ENTIRE BOOK they just say it's one simple topic and nothing to see here.
Tbh, I don't think I remember any bible studies that examined Judges for long, if at all. When I led my bible study, we did go through it, but the Christian take is to deflect from what the Judges DO necessarily and focus on God allowing Deborah to be a Judge and cherry pick the good parts. The Canaanites were so evil it justified the violence against them and the whole problem was Israel's fault because they didn't genocide the land like god said. I know I made it sound intentional, but it's not intentional. It's the way you're trained to think, as a Christian. That's why Brandon's bible studies are so good - they make a good counterpoint. And the deeper you go, the worse it gets.
I remember a lot of focus on Samson’s Nazarene vows giving him strength, and how we have to obey God’s rules to enjoy his blessings-plus lessons about that evil Delilah and being unequally yoked
One of the things that's so strange to me about Yahweh, is that his Old Testament portrayals are not too dissimilar to how the devil is traditionally depicted. Especially with how he makes deals with people. It makes you wonder if the Gnostic Christians were actually right. 😔
the same person tried many lines of apologetics with me in a comment section for Jephta. First he said the daughter didn't die, just never married (the same I heard in church, which btw imo is so popular because that is what the story is highlighting, how tragic it was that this unamed girl was never possessed by any man and didn't bear any children - see how said, her life had no meaning, because without marrying and bearing children a woman's life is just pointless, every one mourned her for it). then he said it was ok, because the girl agreed. then he said Jephta didn't expect it to be a human, but houses back then had two stories and the humans lived in the upstairs part, and the animals downstairs. My answer is, couldn't god have, like you said, not take the deal, or send a prophet to the house to warn the family, or caused an animal to cross his path b4 the daughter, or even proposed a substitution, like with Isaac? There is also the story of Jonathan having to die due the the vow made by his father, the people rise against it, and it is just dropped. The only distinctive aspect here is that it is a female - Is that the reason why it doesn't count as a human sacrifice😢? Would track with the fact that in all lists women are counted with the cattle and slaves. Also, I guess she was not worthy of being a type for the sacrifice of Jesus like Isaac, since apparently the whole bible is supposed to be about that.
What I find really curious is that pastors love to point to the fact that without a king, the people did what was right in their own eyes, like this excuses the atrocities of Judges. But then they ignore the fact that God was AGAINST them having a king. He liked the judges.
I so much appreciate you pointing out the sinful behaviors of God, example after example of God violating the very same moral injunctions that he expects all of mankind to obey, this is really an eye-opening understanding of the character of the God of the Bible. The vast majority of Christendom has never had the objectivity or scholastic courage to recognize and declare that the God of the Bible - by the evidence presented in his own word - is a profound and hardcore and inveterate offender.
@@MindShift-Brandon LOL. omg it was so clearly written by a man SMH. Guaranteed his daughter wouldn't have given a crap about that over "MY DAD'S GOING TO OFF ME"
@@MindShift-BrandonGreat band name ;). I guess they could sing patsy Cline’s song “I Fall To Pieces” about her 12 parts getting sent to the 12 Jewish tribes. What tribe or person would take 1/12th of a little girl? What psychopaths all those people are!
@@MindShift-Brandon You're more than welcome I will be watching and sharing... I watch a lot of secular biblical scholarship and this is just incredibly well done. Cheers man.
In the problematic verse, it's states the spirit of the Lord came upon the judge, something you point out indicates a lack of free will. So not only did God except the child sacrifice, he created the event that led to it.
When discussing these subjects with Christians, the only even semi rational explanation for the apparent evil of God is that God is omniscient and therefore what appears evil to us is actually good and serves his plan, so he is actually omni-benevolent. The problem with this argument is that the opposite could be equally said, e.g. God is in fact Omni malevolent, and all the things that he does that seem evil are evil, and all the things that he does that seem good are also in fact evil and serve his unknowable evil plan, we just can't see why because we are not omniscient like him. And since it seems to me that there are far more apparently evil Acts that would have to be justified by his omniscience then there are good acts which would require the same, it could be argued that it is more likely that God is in fact Omni malevolent. Although the most likely argument seems to me to be that there simply is no God at all involved in these horrific actions, and they are simply the actions of a group of people who were perfectly typical for their time and place, in both Good and Evil.
I like your idea about deconstructing Bible stories for a future video. I had a similar idea and published a book about it a couple of months ago. Deconstructed: Bible Stories for Critical Thinkers by Paul Curtis. Bible study for those unafraid to ask difficult questions, and freely examine other points of view. Stories examined include David & Bathsheba, The Battle of Jericho, Elijah and the Prophets of Baal, and many more. The Apostle Paul's teachings on slavery and women's rights, as well as Jesus' teachings on prayer and Hell, are included. Each story references the Bible verses associated with it.
It is important to note that this is not the only human sacrifice. I posted that already here but this video matches it, so I post it again. I want to ask abrahamic believers: What makes your holy book different than the pagan ones? Additionally MindShift please make a video about the difference between Gentiles and Israelites. I think that is as important to understand that this book is promising the destruction and enslavement of the Gentiles which is literally everyone else but an Israelite. --- So here we go with more human sacrifices. Exodus 22:29-30 "29“You shall not delay the offering from the fullness of your harvest and the juice of your wine vat. The firstborn of your sons you shall give to Me. 30And you shall do the same with your oxen and with your sheep. It shall be with its mother seven days; on the eighth day you shall give it to Me." Here it states that the firstborn of the Israelites children shall be given to him. Afterwards he said the same about the firstborn animals too. What happens to the animals given to him? They were sacrificed. But that is not enough so let's get a bit more Information. Exodus 13:1-2 "1Then Yahweh spoke to Moses, saying, 2“Sanctify to Me every firstborn, the first offspring of every womb among the sons of Israel, both of man and beast; it belongs to Me.”" Here we have another quote which states the same. Now let's take a look at what happens to the things devoted to him. Leviticus 27:28-29 "28‘Nevertheless, anything which a man devotes to Yahweh out of all that he has, of man or animal or of the fields of his own possession, shall not be sold or redeemed. Anything devoted to destruction is most holy to Yahweh. 29No one who may have been devoted among men shall be ransomed; he shall surely be put to death." Anything devoted to the biblical God out of all he has, of MAN or ANIMAL shall not be sold or redeemed. It shall be surely put to death. That's human sacrifice. But is there another part in the bible which is a bit more specific? Yes, there is take a look at this: Ezekiel 20:25-26 "25And I also gave them statutes that were not good and judgments by which they could not live; 26and I pronounced them unclean because of their gifts, in that they caused all their firstborn to pass through the fire so that I might make them desolate, in order that they might know that I am Yahweh.” ’" Here it is stated openly. All their firstborns were passed through the fire. That's a human sacrifice. The reason for this in context was for "punishment" but it does not change the fact that they were human sacrifices. --- Deuteronomy 13:12-16 "12“If you hear in one of your cities, which Yahweh your God is giving you to live in, anyone saying that 13some vile men have gone out from among you and have driven the inhabitants of their city astray, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods’ (whom you have not known), 14then you shall inquire and search out and ask thoroughly. Behold, if it is true and the matter is confirmed, that this abomination has been done among you, 15you shall surely strike the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, devoting it to destruction and all that is in it and its cattle with the edge of the sword. 16Then you shall gather all its spoil into the middle of its open square and burn the city and all its spoil with fire as a whole burnt offering to Yahweh your God; and it shall be a ruin forever. It shall never be rebuilt." Here you might say that the people getting killed in that city are not human sacrifices directly because you sacrifice their belongings. But you can say that this is an indirect human sacrifice to appease anger. These quotes also give you the possibility to attack people who don't believe in the abrahamic God.
@@MindShift-Brandon No problem. But again I hope you make a video which shows the different treatment between Gentiles and Israelites. That's totally mind blowing. Afterall if the promises of the biblical God haven't been removed after the NT then this would still be valid. Let me copy that again, just the things I gathered are so much that it takes 2 comments to fill: Isaiah 60:16 "You will also suck the milk of nations And suck the breast of kings; Then you will know that I, Yahweh, am your Savior And your Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob." Deuteronomy 11:23-25 "23then Yahweh will dispossess all these nations from before you, and you will dispossess nations greater and mightier than you. 24Every place on which the sole of your foot treads shall be yours; your border will be from the wilderness to Lebanon, and from the river, the river Euphrates, as far as the western sea. 25No man will be able to stand before you; Yahweh your God will put the dread of you and the fear of you on all the land on which you set foot, as He has spoken to you." Here it is stated that all the nations from Gentiles will become the property of the Israelites. Psalms 47:3 "3He subdues peoples under us And nations under our feet." Again the people from the nations also known as Gentiles will be subdued. Deuteronomy 14:21 "21“You shall not eat anything which dies of itself. You may give it to the sojourner who is within your gates, so that he may eat it, or you may sell it to a foreigner, for you are a holy people to Yahweh your God. You shall not boil a young goat in its mother’s milk." In short if you find a road kill you can sell that to Gentiles. Deuteronomy 23:20 "20You may charge interest to a foreigner, but to your brother you shall not charge interest, so that Yahweh your God may bless you in all that you send forth your hand to do in the land which you are about to enter to possess." In short you can trick Gentiles with high interest rates and suck them dry. Deuteronomy 7:22-24 "22And Yahweh your God will clear away these nations before you little by little; you will not be able to put an end to them quickly, lest the wild beasts become too numerous for you. 23But Yahweh your God will give them over before you and will throw them into great confusion until they are destroyed. 24And He will give their kings into your hand so that you will make their name perish from under heaven; no man will be able to stand before you until you have destroyed them." Wow! Here the nations will be slowly destroyed little by little and take note we are even called wild beasts here. And how is he going to destroy us? Through confusion. How do you confuse? Through deception. A mighty God needs deception to beat mere humans? Oh, sorry I mean mere beasts! A God standing in truth needs deception to handle the nations? Really? Deuteronomy 2:25 "25This day I will begin to put the dread and fear of you upon the peoples everywhere under the heavens, who, when they hear the report of you, will tremble and be in anguish because of you.’" In context this was after some slaughters in which he gave the Amorites into their hands. But recognize that he speaking here about everywhere under the heavens. So all on earth. He is stating here that he will make all people fear the Israelites. That they are in anguist because of them. Does that sound like a good deity to you? Leviticus 25:44-46 "44As for your male and female slaves whom you may have-you may acquire male and female slaves from the nations that are around you. 45And also you may acquire from the sons of the foreign residents who sojourn among you, from them and their families who are with you; as for those whom they have begotten in your land, they also may become your possession. 46You may even give them as an inheritance to your sons after you, to receive as a possession; you can use them as permanent slaves. But in respect to your brothers, the sons of Israel, you shall not have dominion over one another with brutality." Take a look at how Gentiles become permanent slaves who can even be inherited. You can even be brutal to them as long as they are not Israelites. How brutal can you be? Let's check this out: Exodus 21:20-21 "20“And if a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod and he dies at his hand, he shall surely be punished. 21But if for a day or two he is able to stand, no punishment shall be taken; for he is his property." Isaiah 61:5-6 "5Strangers will stand and pasture your flocks, And foreigners will be your farmers and your vinedressers. 6But you will be called the priests of Yahweh; You will be spoken of as ministers of our God. You will eat the wealth of nations, And in their glories you will boast." In short Gentiles become your labor force and you will suck their wealth away from them. And you can even boast about robbing others of their labor. Isaiah 45:14 "14Thus says Yahweh, “The fruit of the labor of Egypt and the profit of Ethiopia And the Sabeans, men of stature, Will come over to you and will be yours; They will walk behind you; they will come over in chains And will bow down to you; They will make supplication to you: ‘Surely, God is with you, and there is none else, No other God.’ ”" Another one which promises enslavement of Gentiles. In this regards it mentioned some specific nations though. Isaiah 60:10-12 "10“Foreigners will build up your walls, And their kings will minister to you; For in My wrath I struck you, And in My favor I have had compassion on you. 11“Your gates will be open continually; They will not be closed day or night, So that men may bring to you the wealth of the nations, With their kings led in procession. 12“For the nation and the kingdom which will not serve you will perish, And the nations will surely be laid waste." Here we go again: Suck the nations of their wealth and the ones who don't want to will be destroyed. In short become their labor slave or die. Isaiah 49:23 "23“Kings will be your guardians, And their princesses your nurses. They will bow down to you with their faces to the earth And lick the dust of your feet; And you will know that I am Yahweh; Those who hope in Me will not be put to shame." Here the Kings of the Gentiles will become guardians and nurses and kneel in front of them and get humiliated. Jeremiah 1:10 "10“See, I have appointed you this day over the nations and over the kingdoms, To uproot and to tear down, To cause to perish and to pull down, To build and to plant.”" How nice. Here they have the "divine" right to uproot and tear down the nations without their consent of course. Jeremiah 46:28 "28“O Jacob My servant, do not fear,” declares Yahweh, “For I am with you. For I will make a complete destruction of all the nations Where I have banished you, Yet I will not make a complete destruction of you; But I will discipline you with justice And by no means leave you unpunished.”" Read this. He will make a COMPLETE destruction of ALL the nations where he has the "Chosens" banished to. So if a Chosenite is in your country then according to this, your country will be completely destroyed. You find more or less the same quotes in Jeremiah 30:10-11. Jeremiah 51:20-23 "20 He says, “You are My instrument of shattering, My weapon of war; And with you I shatter nations, And with you I destroy kingdoms. 21“With you I shatter the horse and his rider, And with you I shatter the chariot and its rider, 22And with you I shatter man and woman, And with you I shatter old man and youth, And with you I shatter choice man and virgin, 23And with you I shatter the shepherd and his flock, And with you I shatter the farmer and his pair of oxen, And with you I shatter governors and prefects." Before I start, these quotes are in context with the calamity against Babylon. But since he is speaking generally in these quotes I added them. Look what he is saying. The Israelites are his weapon of war which brings destruction to Gentiles. And of course he has to go into details like shattering man, woman, old man and young and so on. Please now, just imagine there are some Israelites/Jews who take that book seriously with quotes like this. Don't you think they would be a danger to all other people on this planet? Daniel 2:44 "44And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will cause a kingdom to rise up which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people; it will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will itself stand forever." The context here is the dream which Daniel interpreted. Well that's something all the abrahamic faith believers want because they think that it's the rule of their savior. But at the end of the day this is one world government. A system once it is corrupt will bring a nightmare to all the common people on this planet. Everyone supporting one world government is in my opinion an enemy "a Satan" to all the commoners. Psalms 2:8-9 "8Ask of Me, and I will surely give the nations as Your inheritance, And the ends of the earth as Your possession. 9You shall break them with a rod of iron, You shall shatter them like a potter’s vessel.”" Here you can get Gentiles as possession by demand and are allowed to crush them.
@@MindShift-Brandon And the second. That just what I gathered there is more in there though: Matthew 15:21-28 "21And going away from there, Jesus withdrew into the district of Tyre and Sidon. 22And behold, a Canaanite woman from that region came out and began to cry out, saying, “Have mercy on me, Lord, Son of David; my daughter is cruelly demon-possessed.” 23But He did not answer her a word. And His disciples came and were pleading with Him, saying, “Send her away, because she keeps shouting at us.” 24But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” 25But she came and was bowing down before Him, saying, “Lord, help me!” 26And He answered and said, “It is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to the dogs.” 27But she said, “Yes, Lord; but even the dogs feed on the crumbs which fall from their masters’ table.” 28Then Jesus answered and said to her, “O woman, your faith is great; it shall be done for you as you wish.” And her daughter was healed at once." Take a look at how a Gentile woman is treated here. Only after admitting that she is a dog she got help. The others got healed just by asking but she had to be humiliated before. Romans 11:11 "11I say then, did they stumble so as to fall? May it never be! But by their transgression salvation has come to the Gentiles, to make them jealous" And here we listen to the reason why Gentiles got saved. They got saved to make the Jews jealous. Revelation 2:26-28 "26And he who overcomes, and he who keeps My deeds until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations; 27and he shall rule them with a rod of iron, as the vessels of the potter are broken to pieces, as I also have received authority from My Father; 28and I will give him the morning star." And here at the very end the nations, the "Gentiles" will be given again. And how are they going to be ruled? With a rod of iron which means being ruled in a strict and cruel way. Or take a look at this beauty in how to achieve such results: Isaiah 19:1-4 "1The oracle concerning Egypt. Behold, Yahweh is riding on a swift cloud and is about to come to Egypt; The idols of Egypt will shake at His presence, And the heart of the Egyptians will melt within them. 2“So I will incite Egyptians against Egyptians; And they will each fight against his brother and each against his neighbor, City against city and kingdom against kingdom. 3“Then the spirit of the Egyptians will be emptied to destruction within them; And I will confuse their counsel, So that they will seek idols and ghosts of the dead And to mediums and spiritists. 4“Moreover, I will deliver the Egyptians into the hand of a cruel master, And a strong king will rule over them,” declares the Lord, Yahweh of hosts." Replace Egyptians with any other people from nations. This is by the way what would one expect for the idea of Subversion.
I gotta say, Ive read much of the OT but I dont know HOW I failed to remember the obvious human sacrifice parts. I mean it's quite clearly spelled out in those verses you cited.
You know what is really sad about the one judge that's a woman, it's the Christians say "See how wicked Israel was! It was so bad that God had to appoint Debra as a judge because there were no men good enough to be a judge at that time!" So, some Christians manage to take a rare example of God impowering a woman and make it sexist. I mean, I agree that the Christian God is sexist, but it's funny to me that sometimes Christians will say it and not hear it and I'm not sure the Dabra is an example of God's sexism.
Giving birth to my daughter was the final nail in my deconstruction largely because of Bible books/verses like these. (The virginity test in Deuteronomy 22 was the biggest one. How could the creator of humanity NOT know that not every women has “proof” of virginity, even if she is one?). I know women are less likely to leave the faith, but I don’t understand why (and I know your wife is one of those, so no offense intended). I don’t know how a woman could read these horrific stories of sexual slavery, kidnapping, and r@pe that seem to be sanctioned, or at least overlooked, by God and continue to worship this being. I just do not understand.
As a woman whos deconstructing, its because you are taught from the start that you are absolute scum and ANY kindness is a mercy you dont deserve and should be grateful for. You are also saddled with the responsability of everyone elses happiness. They one two punch you with a. Indoctrinating you not to think and then b. Ensuring you dont have time to think. Ill use ONE example. At around 10 years old my private christian school began their s 3 x ed (ill abbreviate it as $ for youtubes sensitivities). They didnt teach the mechanics of $, but everything around it. Here was the list i remember, and keep in mind these were blatant points or straight up quotes The two most important factors in choosing a husband was a. He needed to be a church going christian and b. He needed to be rich. In fact they asked us girls to make a list of what we wanted, and up on the board we'd compiled things like humor, kindness, good at listening, liked the same shows or animals or hobbies as us (child speak for common interest), and were told that our list lacked the MOST IMPORTANT part, money Once you had $ 3 x you were no longer pure, which is why you only did it with one man in your life, so that you werent brought too low or ruined too much, and also so the man didn't have to settle for used goods $ outside marriage was unforgivable, and while you could make it to heaven you shouldnt get married after, should handle any children alone, and could no longer live gods true purpose for your life in full Also $ drive was "male only", you shouldnt think about or look forwards to $ EVEN AFTER MARRIAGE because (quote) "its impure desire, $ is for your husband and making christian babies. Your husband will want it enough for the both of you, and will tell you when its time to do it anyways." Don't even think about it, that's BAD for you. If your husband isnt converted and saved its your fault for picking badly, abd now that your stuck with him its your fault that your example doesnt lead him to god, and its your fault you arent praying hard enough If your kids arent saved or fall away its also your fault for not picking a husband that enforced religion properly and also the prayer thing If you end up divorced the man clearly only left because you werent fulfilling all his needs, and if its an abuse case its your fault for picking poorly, or for provoking him to anger by not being godly enough On top of this church often becomes the ONLY place a woman can ever socialize due to a. Time if shes a house wife or b. The only place shes ALLOWED to socialize in a "safe/acceptable" way if she works, because she either has to proselytize her coworkers into avoidance or not engage with the worldly This is a tiny slice, it was this level of bs with everything. Dont be a leader, thats for men. Always look to a man (father, pastor, husband, even brother) for directions and money. Have babies. Stay home. R@pe is your fault because you were wearing something or leading someone on Illness is your fault for not praying enough--including others illnesses If a woman is sacrificed/sold by a man that's his RIGHT, if God told him to do it If kidnapped women were made wives then they clearly consented, and it's better to be a wife than not so it's a net positive in the end anyways If they were made slaves--well, they didn't pray enough Sin in general is your fault because eve was a woman, which is why you are second class. On and on Every question i ever asked as a kid was shut down, called doubt and treated as sin, or brushed off with "christians dont think about negative things, only gods light". Dont think. Dont think. Dont think. Dont ask questions Mind you THESE WERE NOT FUNDAMENTALISTS. They all lived their very modern and hypocritical lives. And STILL all this was taught and left us children in horribly confusion Out of the 30 some girls i was grouped with, i and 1 other were the only ones NOT married by 19. And at 26 now, im still the only one single and without kids. I dont know if i would have made it this far intellectually under a christian husband, dealing with 2-5 children, still in a church circuit at least once a week--more, because women also dud all the volunteer work, events, fundraisers etc. I ended up in a public highschool that gave me some perspective, then got a job and lived at home which, while still dealing with an abusive christian father, gave me TIME and space to think and slowly break the chains
As a woman whos deconstructing, its because you are taught from the start that you are absolute scum and ANY kindness is a mercy you dont deserve and should be grateful for. You are also saddled with the responsability of everyone elses happiness. They one two punch you with a. Indoctrinating you not to think and then b. Ensuring you dont have time to think. Ill use ONE example. At around 10 years old my private christian school began their s 3 x ed (ill abbreviate it as $ for youtubes sensitivities). They didnt teach the mechanics of $, but everything around it. Here was the list i remember, and keep in mind these were blatant points or straight up quotes The two most important factors in choosing a husband was a. He needed to be a church going christian and b. He needed to be rich. In fact they asked us girls to make a list of what we wanted, and up on the board we'd compiled things like humor, kindness, good at listening, liked the same shows or animals or hobbies as us (child speak for common interest), and were told that our list lacked the MOST IMPORTANT part, money Once you had $ 3 x you were no longer pure, which is why you only did it with one man in your life, so that you werent brought too low or ruined too much, and also so the man didn't have to settle for used goods $ outside marriage was unforgivable, and while you could make it to heaven you shouldnt get married after, should handle any children alone, and could no longer live gods true purpose for your life in full Also $ drive was "male only", you shouldnt think about or look forwards to $ EVEN AFTER MARRIAGE because (quote) "its impure desire, $ is for your husband and making christian babies. Your husband will want it enough for the both of you, and will tell you when its time to do it anyways." Don't even think about it, that's BAD for you. If your husband isnt converted and saved its your fault for picking badly, abd now that your stuck with him its your fault that your example doesnt lead him to god, and its your fault you arent praying hard enough If your kids arent saved or fall away its also your fault for not picking a husband that enforced religion properly and also the prayer thing If you end up divorced the man clearly only left because you werent fulfilling all his needs, and if its an abuse case its your fault for picking poorly, or for provoking him to anger by not being godly enough On top of this church often becomes the ONLY place a woman can ever socialize due to a. Time if shes a house wife or b. The only place shes ALLOWED to socialize in a "safe/acceptable" way if she works, because she either has to proselytize her coworkers into avoidance or not engage with the worldly This is a tiny slice, it was this level of bs with everything. Dont be a leader, thats for men. Always look to a man (father, pastor, husband, even brother) for directions and money. Have babies. Stay home. R@pe is your fault because you were wearing something or leading someone on Illness is your fault for not praying enough--including others illnesses If a woman is sacrificed/sold by a man that's his RIGHT, if God told him to do it If kidnapped women were made wives then they clearly consented, and it's better to be a wife than not so it's a net positive in the end anyways If they were made slaves--well, they didn't pray enough Sin in general is your fault because eve was a woman, which is why you are second class. On and on Every question i ever asked as a kid was shut down, called doubt and treated as sin, or brushed off with "christians dont think about negative things, only gods light". Dont think. Dont think. Dont think. Dont ask questions Mind you THESE WERE NOT FUNDAMENTALISTS. They all lived their very modern and hypocritical lives. And STILL all this was taught and left us children in horribly confusion Out of the 30 some girls i was grouped with, i and 1 other were the only ones NOT married by 19. And at 26 now, im still the only one single and without kids. I dont know if i would have made it this far intellectually under a christian husband, dealing with 2-5 children, still in a church circuit at least once a week--more, because women also dud all the volunteer work, events, fundraisers etc. I ended up in a public highschool that gave me some perspective, then got a job and lived at home which, while still dealing with an abusive christian father, gave me TIME and space to think and slowly break the chains
As a woman whos deconstructing, its because you are taught from the start that you are absolute scum and ANY kindness is a mercy you dont deserve and should be grateful for. You are also saddled with the responsability of everyone elses happiness. They one two punch you with a. Indoctrinating you not to think and then b. Ensuring you dont have time to think. Ill use ONE example. At around 10 years old my private christian school began their s 3 x ed (ill abbreviate it as $ for youtubes sensitivities). They didnt teach the mechanics of $, but everything around it. Here was the list i remember, and keep in mind these were blatant points or straight up quotes The two most important factors in choosing a husband was a. He needed to be a church going christian and b. He needed to be rich. In fact they asked us girls to make a list of what we wanted, and up on the board we'd compiled things like humor, kindness, good at listening, liked the same shows or animals or hobbies as us (child speak for common interest), and were told that our list lacked the MOST IMPORTANT part, money Once you had $ 3 x you were no longer pure, which is why you only did it with one man in your life, so that you werent brought too low or ruined too much, and also so the man didn't have to settle for used goods $ outside marriage was unforgivable, and while you could make it to heaven you shouldnt get married after, should handle any children alone, and could no longer live gods true purpose for your life in full Also $ drive was "male only", you shouldnt think about or look forwards to $ EVEN AFTER MARRIAGE because (quote) "its impure desire, $ is for your husband and making christian babies. Your husband will want it enough for the both of you, and will tell you when its time to do it anyways." Don't even think about it, that's BAD for you. If your husband isnt converted and saved its your fault for picking badly, abd now that your stuck with him its your fault that your example doesnt lead him to god, and its your fault you arent praying hard enough If your kids arent saved or fall away its also your fault for not picking a husband that enforced religion properly and also the prayer thing If you end up divorced the man clearly only left because you werent fulfilling all his needs, and if its an abuse case its your fault for picking poorly, or for provoking him to anger by not being godly enough On top of this church often becomes the ONLY place a woman can ever socialize due to a. Time if shes a house wife or b. The only place shes ALLOWED to socialize in a "safe/acceptable" way if she works, because she either has to proselytize her coworkers into avoidance or not engage with the worldly This is a tiny slice, it was this level of bs with everything. Dont be a leader, thats for men. Always look to a man (father, pastor, husband, even brother) for directions and money. Have babies. Stay home. R@pe is your fault because you were wearing something or leading someone on Illness is your fault for not praying enough--including others illnesses If a woman is sacrificed/sold by a man that's his RIGHT, if God told him to do it If kidnapped women were made wives then they clearly consented, and it's better to be a wife than not so it's a net positive in the end anyways If they were made slaves--well, they didn't pray enough Sin in general is your fault because eve was a woman, which is why you are second class. On and on Every question i ever asked as a kid was shut down, called doubt and treated as sin, or brushed off with "christians dont think about negative things, only gods light". Dont think. Dont think. Dont think. Dont ask questions Mind you THESE WERE NOT FUNDAMENTALISTS. They all lived their very modern and hypocritical lives. And STILL all this was taught and left us children in horribly confusion Out of the 30 some girls i was grouped with, i and 1 other were the only ones NOT married by 19. And at 26 now, im still the only one single and without kids. I dont know if i would have made it this far intellectually under a christian husband, dealing with 2-5 children, still in a church circuit at least once a week--more, because women also dud all the volunteer work, events, fundraisers etc. I ended up in a public highschool that gave me some perspective, then got a job and lived at home which, while still dealing with an abusive christian father, gave me TIME and space to think and slowly break the chains
As a woman whos deconstructing, its because you are taught from the start that you are absolute scum and ANY kindness is a mercy you dont deserve and should be grateful for. You are also saddled with the responsability of everyone elses happiness. They one two punch you with a. Indoctrinating you not to think and then b. Ensuring you dont have time to think. Ill use ONE example. At around 10 years old my private christian school began their s 3 x ed (ill abbreviate it as $ for youtubes sensitivities). They didnt teach the mechanics of $, but everything around it. Here was the list i remember, and keep in mind these were blatant points or straight up quotes The two most important factors in choosing a husband was a. He needed to be a church going christian and b. He needed to be rich. In fact they asked us girls to make a list of what we wanted, and up on the board we'd compiled things like humor, kindness, good at listening, liked the same shows or animals or hobbies as us (child speak for common interest), and were told that our list lacked the MOST IMPORTANT part, money Once you had $ 3 x you were no longer pure, which is why you only did it with one man in your life, so that you werent brought too low or ruined too much, and also so the man didn't have to settle for used goods $ outside marriage was unforgivable, and while you could make it to heaven you shouldnt get married after, should handle any children alone, and could no longer live gods true purpose for your life in full Also $ drive was "male only", you shouldnt think about or look forwards to $ EVEN AFTER MARRIAGE because (quote) "its impure desire, $ is for your husband and making christian babies. Your husband will want it enough for the both of you, and will tell you when its time to do it anyways." Don't even think about it, that's BAD for you. If your husband isnt converted and saved its your fault for picking badly, abd now that your stuck with him its your fault that your example doesnt lead him to god, and its your fault you arent praying hard enough If your kids arent saved or fall away its also your fault for not picking a husband that enforced religion properly and also the prayer thing If you end up divorced the man clearly only left because you werent fulfilling all his needs, and if its an abuse case its your fault for picking poorly, or for provoking him to anger by not being godly enough On top of this church often becomes the ONLY place a woman can ever socialize due to a. Time if shes a house wife or b. The only place shes ALLOWED to socialize in a "safe/acceptable" way if she works, because she either has to proselytize her coworkers into avoidance or not engage with the worldly This is a tiny slice, it was this level of bs with everything. Dont be a leader, thats for men. Always look to a man (father, pastor, husband, even brother) for directions and money. Have babies. Stay home. R@pe is your fault because you were wearing something or leading someone on Illness is your fault for not praying enough--including others illnesses If a woman is sacrificed/sold by a man that's his RIGHT, if God told him to do it If kidnapped women were made wives then they clearly consented, and it's better to be a wife than not so it's a net positive in the end anyways If they were made slaves--well, they didn't pray enough Sin in general is your fault because eve was a woman, which is why you are second class. On and on Every question i ever asked as a kid was shut down, called doubt and treated as sin, or brushed off with "christians dont think about negative things, only gods light". Dont think. Dont think. Dont think. Dont ask questions Mind you THESE WERE NOT FUNDAMENTALISTS. They all lived their very modern and hypocritical lives. And STILL all this was taught and left us children in horribly confusion Out of the 30 some girls i was grouped with, i and 1 other were the only ones NOT married by 19. And at 26 now, im still the only one single and without kids. I dont know if i would have made it this far intellectually under a christian husband, dealing with 2-5 children, still in a church circuit at least once a week--more, because women also dud all the volunteer work, events, fundraisers etc. I ended up in a public highschool that gave me some perspective, then got a job and lived at home which, while still dealing with an abusive christian father, gave me TIME and space to think and slowly break the chains
As a woman whos deconstructing, its because you are taught from the start that you are absolute scum and ANY kindness is a mercy you dont deserve and should be grateful for. You are also saddled with the responsability of everyone elses happiness. They one two punch you with a. Indoctrinating you not to think and then b. Ensuring you dont have time to think. Ill use ONE example. At around 10 years old my private christian school began their s 3 x ed (ill abbreviate it as $ for youtubes sensitivities). They didnt teach the mechanics of $, but everything around it. Here was the list i remember, and keep in mind these were blatant points or straight up quotes The two most important factors in choosing a husband was a. He needed to be a church going christian and b. He needed to be rich. In fact they asked us girls to make a list of what we wanted, and up on the board we'd compiled things like humor, kindness, good at listening, liked the same shows or animals or hobbies as us (child speak for common interest), and were told that our list lacked the MOST IMPORTANT part, money Once you had $ 3 x you were no longer pure, which is why you only did it with one man in your life, so that you werent brought too low or ruined too much, and also so the man didn't have to settle for used goods $ outside marriage was unforgivable, and while you could make it to heaven you shouldnt get married after, should handle any children alone, and could no longer live gods true purpose for your life in full Also $ drive was "male only", you shouldnt think about or look forwards to $ EVEN AFTER MARRIAGE because (quote) "its impure desire, $ is for your husband and making christian babies. Your husband will want it enough for the both of you, and will tell you when its time to do it anyways." Don't even think about it, that's BAD for you. If your husband isnt converted and saved its your fault for picking badly, abd now that your stuck with him its your fault that your example doesnt lead him to god, and its your fault you arent praying hard enough If your kids arent saved or fall away its also your fault for not picking a husband that enforced religion properly and also the prayer thing If you end up divorced the man clearly only left because you werent fulfilling all his needs, and if its an abuse case its your fault for picking poorly, or for provoking him to anger by not being godly enough On top of this church often becomes the ONLY place a woman can ever socialize due to a. Time if shes a house wife or b. The only place shes ALLOWED to socialize in a "safe/acceptable" way if she works, because she either has to proselytize her coworkers into avoidance or not engage with the worldly This is a tiny slice, it was this level of bs with everything. Dont be a leader, thats for men. Always look to a man (father, pastor, husband, even brother) for directions and money. Have babies. Stay home. R@pe is your fault because you were wearing something or leading someone on Illness is your fault for not praying enough--including others illnesses If a woman is sacrificed/sold by a man that's his RIGHT, if God told him to do it If kidnapped women were made wives then they clearly consented, and it's better to be a wife than not so it's a net positive in the end anyways If they were made slaves--well, they didn't pray enough Sin in general is your fault because eve was a woman, which is why you are second class. On and on Every question i ever asked as a kid was shut down, called doubt and treated as sin, or brushed off with "christians dont think about negative things, only gods light". Dont think. Dont think. Dont think. Dont ask questions Mind you THESE WERE NOT FUNDAMENTALISTS. They all lived their very modern and hypocritical lives. And STILL all this was taught and left us children in horribly confusion Out of the 30 some girls i was grouped with, i and 1 other were the only ones NOT married by 19. And at 26 now, im still the only one single and without kids. I dont know if i would have made it this far intellectually under a christian husband, dealing with 2-5 children, still in a church circuit at least once a week--more, because women also dud all the volunteer work, events, fundraisers etc. I ended up in a public highschool that gave me some perspective, then got a job and lived at home which, while still dealing with an abusive christian father, gave me TIME and space to think and slowly break the chains
Doesn't this books' theme of "We need a King!" directly clash with Samuel's "Kings are bad for you!" that both God and Samuel hold? That's probably proof enough that these are written by different people with differing agendas...
This book I think is often overlooked except for the story of Gideon (they never talk about the latter part of the story) and I'm glad that you've highlighted a lot of the problems showing us a very inconsistent god. The more I listen to these, the more I realize god is humanity out up on a pedestal all in its own brain. Thank you for these secular bible studies!
I really hope you keep these up Brandon they’re fantastic. My only complaint is that I try to document and go off and re-search after your videos and you give so much great material I’m falling behind lol.
as a kid I always heard the explanation that jephthah expected a lamb or baby goat to come out of the house first to greet him. even so, if you have an all knowing deity part of the story no explanation makes any sense.
Imagine how different the world would be if this supposedly good God gave unoccupied land as a reward to his people instead of land with people already on it that the Israelites were instructed not to mix with and to slaughter.
Well, at least Jephta let his daughter have a last vacation in the mountain for a month before getting sacrificed ^^ More seriously, nice bible study as always. I know I'm preaching to the choir here (no pun intended), but using the fact the Benjamites did not have a king when they kidnapped women to resume their fruitfulness and multiplication as a justification for their actions seems odd, considering they are still the chosen people of an all powerful god that could, and should replace the missing king, or use his divine powers to make sure a king is always appointed when needed.
You should consider making your videos available in podcast format. I wanna listen to it while I’m walking to the train, but it’s tricky having to keep the screen up
I'm continuing to love this series! Keep up the great work! One thing I don't totally agree with is your "how can they be this stupid" criticism. To me this is a powerful biblical theme and commentary on the human condition - we're doomed to make the same mistakes over and over again.
Thank you very much and i totally understand your critique and in a metaphorical way it makes great sense. I am talking more in the hypothetical that if this were true, if these people could look over and see god in his tabernacle as a pillar of fire and just got done seeing their buddy smited for picking up sticks on the sabbath, one might think it hard to even conceive of building a golden idol.
@@MindShift-Brandon Totally. I'm a former Christian, still interested in finding some meaning in the Biblical narrative so I'm all for metaphorical truth!
these are god' people. he made them that way, he knows what they are going to do, and he knows how he is going to punish them. God loves them - to death
I often think about this notion of competing gods. It is common for Christians to claim that there is only ONE god. But the problem, of course, is that if there is only one god, everything is his fault. So, what do you do? You create Satan. An adversary as or more powerful (just look around) and blame him/it. What is obvious is that the OT clearly demonstrates that Yahweh has complete control so that he is the one sending these evil spirits, obstacles. It is all confusing and sinister how believers try to weave a web of explanations to justify the absurdity of it all.
Sociologically, speaking as societies, develop through stages from tribal to urbanized state societies with state religions they go through a period when charismatic judges emerge, and provide order of sorts to that burgeoning society. What we see here is the Jewish society going through what is a typical transition phase from more primitive to less primitive so to speak
I fully support a bible story series to get into the nitty gritty details of this book and why it really shouldn't be a guide for anyone living in any time period.
Truly horrific! You totally brought me there & I felt like sobbing for those victims of god's great love. Then I realized it's BS! Still sad for apologists tho. I would love for you to make a bible story (BS) series too.
I know you uploaded this 1 year ago, but I've just discovered your channel. I've been kind of binge listening to these secular bible study videos and I greatly appreciate them. You're really doing a great job here! Btw the Philistines weren't actual Canaanites. Both archeological as well as genetic studies seem to show that they were an amalgamation of different peoples, mostly of Greek origin, who settled in the Levant during the Bronze Age Collapse. They likely intermarried with local Canaanites though.
Theres a scripture somewhere (i cant remember where) that says something along the lines of "God is no respecter of persons", which is commonly interpreted as "God doesnt pick favorites". But time and time again, we see God picking favorites everywhere in the scriptures and making exceptions. The WHOLE BIBLE is a story of God picking a favorite people regaurdless of them following him or sinning grossly against him. That confuses the HECK out of me!
"Inhabitants of Israel. This is Judge Dredd. In case you people have forgotten, these tribes operate under the same rules as the rest the land. Yahweh is not the law. I am the law. Yahweh is a common criminal, guilty of murder, guilty of the mass slaughter of women and children as well as the razing of entire areas of all life, and as of now, under sentence of death. Any who obstruct me from carrying out my duty will be treated as an accessory to his crimes. You have been warned. And as for you, Yahweh, _judgment time."_ - Judge Dredd, I wish Seriously, a Book of Judges without that as a passage is no Book of Judges.
@@MindShift-Brandon It was something I learned long ago: you have to be able to laugh at and even mock anything as horrifying as Judges, and if someone dislikes or even hates you for it, then you should continue doing so, for them defending what is portrayed for any reason other than art shows their own morality to be questionable at best. It is not an easy lesson by any stretch to learn, especially not from growing up in an environment that praises stuff like Judges, and it is even more difficult to put it into practice, but it has ended up serving me well once it set in, at least in distancing me from the absolute worst people.
You think this is bad? Wait till God gets mad at Saul for saving animals even tho he killed all the men, women, children, and babies. 1-2 Samuel doesn't get any better.
@MindShiftSkeptic And ontop of that when they do ask for a king God's like "ahh they've rejected me as a king" when having him as a "king" thus far hasn't been working. So it's not really clear what the authors are trying to get at here.
Hello wonderful people from San Antonio! I appreciate all of you and your comments. Is there a particular program that addresses the following? “Why would God include satan in his creation knowing full well all the crap the dude would end up doing?” If anybody wants to hang here in SA let me know.😊
Something else to consider about the 400 virgins that were given to the tribe of Benjamin as well as the ones that were kidnapped later--these were probably very young girls, as in underage, maybe even prepubertal. Any woman past the age of 13 was most likely married and hence not a virgin. The Bible has many stories of married women who desperately prayed for a child, but I do not know of any never-married Biblical women who begged God to give them a husband. Yet there are plenty of Christian women who have prayed and waited in vain for years, even decades, for God to send them a husband. The problem with insisting on abstinence before marriage is that we no longer live in a society where marriages were arranged at puberty or shortly thereafter, at least for daughters. So there was no abstaining for years or even decades. There was no going out and looking for Mr. Right. Your parents picked for you, as is still done in some societies today.
I've always found it rather strange that the dominant interpretation of Judges is that if they'd just had a king, things would've been better. If that's the message of Judges, then Judges contradicts 1 Samuel 8:6-18, where the people demand Samuel gives them a king and God himself says that in asking for a human king, they've rejected God as their king. Samuel then goes on to tell them just how awful kings are. The way I saw it when I was a Christian is that those verses in Judges were saying that the people had a king (God), but were ignoring him. It also seems to me the people were more responsive to God under the judges than they were under the kings. Under the judges, they always eventually got their act together and went back to following God whereas under the kings they just did what the king told them and didn't worry about what God wanted. There were 4 or 5 kings in Judah who followed God with all their heart, and NONE in Israel (the north), so if that's what Judges was saying, then Judges is just plain wrong.
First, “Yes!” To Secular Bible Stories! Also, as I’m listening to everything in this video, I’m disgusted at the way todays Christian’s are like the ones described in the Bible. For example, the idolization that is NOT supposed to happen. The lessons are right there yet today so many Christian’s idolize their pastor, their priest, their church buildings, their symbols such as crosses and crucifixes. Even people. So many literally worship Trump. Calling him their savior, the anointed one, the second coming, etc. While I believe it’s because their religion is in its death throes & they’re desperate because they don’t want to be “the minority” (how ironic), it’s still disgusting to watch. I’m loving this series. It’s got to be so much work and I appreciate it so much!!
Isn't it odd Jepthah made a deal with God that he would sacrifice as a burnt offering the first thing that came out to greet him after victory. And God with foreknowledge knew that it would be his daughter who will be the first one to greet Jepthah. God could have easily avoided this human sacrifice by maybe hinting that a chicken or a goat would be a better choice.
The unambiguously fictional nature of this god would explain why I have never had any contact with it. These stories are just fictions, and a fictional character cannot defeat chariots of iron.
Even though we have the whole "muh freedoms" stereotype here in the USA, but historical literature like Judges makes me feel that we don't appreciate our freedom enough. We're far better off with flawed bureaucracy than with strongmen rulers like the judges. I recognize that modern dictators have been equally cruel, but on an industrial scale. So let's not tolerate either of them, shall we?
The Israelites in general were a bit slow to learn, but how about Samsom, he was pretty dense in the head. Come on, Delilah betrays you twice yet you still believe her a third time? Even when I was a believer, when I was 8 years old, I found that hard to swallow.
When in Canaan, do as the Canaanites do! If only certain monotheistic cultures would get that hint! Then again, maybe stuff like this explains why they don't, to the detriment of world civilization.
So much low hanging fruit. Admire that you could stay focused. Judges is unintentional comedy and heavy irony. That is about the most positive view I can take from it. Maybe the most worthwhile bit is Jothams’s speech against monarchy. (Judges 9:7-end). Can direct it toward any politician. Comedy gold: (Judges 12:5-6) ‘Quick, say Shibboleth’. ‘Sibboleth’. ‘Die’. 42,000 Ephraimites killed by Gileadites along the fords of the Jordan, betrayed by speech impediment. That bit concludes the Jephthah saga.
[In Judges, though, the tale of Jephthah, who led the Israelites against the Ammonoites, is being told. Being fearful of defeat, this good religious man sought to guarantee victory by getting god firmly on his side. So he prayed to god] “… If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands, Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD’s, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering” - Judges 11:30-31 [The terms were acceptable to god - remember, he is supposed to be omniscient and know the future - so he gave victory to Jephthah, and the first whatsoever that greeted him upon his glorious return was his daughter, as god surely knew would happen, if god is god. True to his vow, the general made a human sacrifice of his only child to god!] - Judges 11:29-34 I’m so glad you touched up on this and the bull 💩 mental gymnastics believers try pulling! This truly pisses me off how some many people dance around this section.
I love the bizarre idea in the early biblical books that the ancient Hebrews have the memory of a goldfish. People see something amazing from Yahweh and 5 minutes later they're making a calf to worship. And nobody learns anything so its a very long running black comedy of Yahweh and his chosen people making stupid decisions over and over again and a lot of people suffer.
My parents tried to stop us from reading comic books. They told us about the book of Judges for it's heroes and action. I remember reading it thinking, "he did what!?!?" It thought it was worse than anything I had ever read in a comic book.
Right? I couldn’t read harry potter or watch Simpsons but full access to the bible. Talk about hypocrisy
I've heard it said that a lot of comic book creators back in the 1950s were Jewish kids who were inspired by the stories of the golem and in the Bible too.
THAT'S EVIL YWH DUPES FOR YOU.
First privilege of being a wife should be the choice to be a wife. If there is no choice then you aren't a wife, you're a captive.
Well said!
If "every man did that which was right in his own eyes", then Judges is proof that God's law is not written on our hearts.
Ha! Excellent point!!
Christian apologists will simply counter saying, "just because people disobey the law doesn't mean it's not written on our hearts".
I kind of hate that I've heard so many garbage apologetics that I can answer from their pov.
Thanks for this video man. I have family that talk on and on about the evils of homosexuality, yet look at the verses of Jephthah sacrificing his daughter as a burnt offering and don't blink an eye. It is incredibly frustrating. Instead of admitting that it is wrong, they go out and buy the book "Is God A Moral Monster?" to have Paul Copan tell them it is ok.
Im gonna do a whole series on that book! It was the last book i read when i was really struggling and trying not to lose my faith
@@MindShift-Brandon Awesome. I did not read more than a few snippets and what I read was pretty awful.
Yes its just ridiculous
@bluelaser9447 The justifications in that book are so disgusting.
Edit: I'd reccomend reading Thom Starks response to that book "Is God a Moral Comprimiser" it's really good and it's free to download online.
At least the Jews or some of them are more honest; Rabbi Tovia Singer is on record that Jephthah was an idiot and the book of Judges was about the people constantly getting it wrong. But still he is mum about what Yahweh was thinking about this the whole time.
This is the same reason I left Christianity. I just couldn't justify all these atrocities, and then I found out these people weren't evil as the Bible claims, which makes god even worse.
Lots of reasons to leave in these books indeed
I don’t take responsibility at all
- the Bible
@@JustADudeGamer😂😂😂👍
Also - "And they will know that I am God"
Life for most women for most of human history has been terrifying and horrific slavery.
Honestly and it hurts me that it's all God's Plan
Yep
I guess I now know why in CCD class we always went from Genesis and Exodus, straight to the NT.
Lol! yeah the obvious omission to study and teach from these books is just ridiculous.
That is the OLD YWH, NOT the NEW. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. WHAT EVIL FREAKS. YWH IS UMMUTABLE, and or Your COOL with that EVIL TRASH. PSYCHOS
Yes have them TEACH ANY OF THIS. YWH MASS GENOICDE of BABIES, PREGNANT WOMAN, ANIMALS, YWH SLAVERY, STONE LAWS, EAT FLESH AND YOUR KIDS FLESH, YWH CREATES EVIL. WOMAN UNCLEAN EACH MONTH or when they have KIDS. Keep INNOCENT WOAN and Children for yourselves. Just a TAD of what THEY DON'T TEACH.
Judges was always my favorite book to read as a child. Probably why I'm an atheist now
Ha! Indeed. I too loved Samson growing up!
@daniele.3361 nothing really, it's just a fascinatingly bloody book. You have the typical stories that are usually told in Sunday school like Gideon, Deborah, Jael, etc. And then you have the story of the levite and his concubine who gets murdered, so the levite cuts her body into 12 pieces to send to each of the tribes of Israel and as a result more people die, etc. The history section of the Bible tends towards violence in general. Favorite section to read as a 3rd grader in church. Love the Bible as a historic text and important piece of literature though. These sections always gave me a grimm's fairytale vibe
makes Game of thrones like a Disney movie
It’s hilarious to think how the church I used to go to would spin the story of Jepthah to erase the child sacrifice part. I was taught the daughter went into the mountains to mourn her virginity, because she wasn’t allowed to ever marry or have babies and that was the sacrifice. Because doing that meant her life was basically over because as we all know that was all a woman was good for. So she wasn’t actually killed lol.
damn, thats insane, plus, even if that were true, its still awful!
My father uses this justification as well. He says the focus on the virginity is proof that she wasn’t killed, but will have no way of continuing her family line. Thus, the sacrifice is Jepthah’s daughter becoming some kind of nun due to her father’s vow… makes some twisted sense even though it requires so many hoops to jump through. I also don’t know why a divinely inspired book will allow a child sacrifice interpretation if the sacrifice is the virginity… it’s such a weird story
Imagine you have a friend who says they know this really wise and awesome guy, with great advice for every aspect of life, and that guy gave him his diary to learn from, which he loans you; there IS some good advice in it, sure, but it's sandwiched between details of how he firebombs his neighbors, keeps young girls prisoner in his basement, and other horrible stuff. Is this really a guy worth following? What do you tell your friend about his new mentor?
Love that comparison! Its so clear
Lol, what a why to put it. What a friend. The Diary of Untold Pyromanicy Vol 1. New York Bestseller
If I went by a field and saw in the distance a woman being gang raped-I would try to do something about it. At the very least I would call 911. In the book of Proverbs,it says that god is everywhere beholding the evil and the good.In other words, god watches evil things happening and does nothing.
His mentor sucks beyond all imagining and his mentors actions will lead to prison for both of them.
When I was a Christian and people would ask my favorite bible verse, I loved answering Judges 4:21. It’s about a guy getting a tent peg hammered through his skull but no one (except me) knows that off the top of their head.
I see what you did there. Well punned.
One of my favorite lines in the Bible is in Judges, coming from a letter allegedly written from Jephthah to the King of the Ammonites.
Judges 11:23 -- "Will you not take what your god Chemosh gives you? Likewise, whatever Yhwh our God has given us, we will possess."
To me, that's the single most direct piece of evidence that the early Israelite religion was polytheistic, and only became monotheistic later.
What about the first testament story where God apparently aided Samson in the murder of 30 men just so Samson could steal their clothes to pay off a gambling debt!
Right. I think Samson deserves his own episode.
He was captured, blinded, and enslaved by the Philistines, but in the end God granted Samson his revenge; through the return of his old strength, he demolished the great Philistine temple of the god Dagon, at Gaza, destroying his captors and himself. His ending was just really horrible and absolutely disgusting.
@@Wealthismybirthright What has this got to do with God apparently aiding Samson in the two sins of murder and theft?
What events would you create to show the world is still a sinful place, even with fallen angels gone? Jesus was the only sinless member of the 12 Tribes. Even Moses died a sinner.
Israel went straight into civil war after they got to the promised land. How many 100,000 died in wars that resulted from a concubine being dismembered?
How about David and the WE, WE TIPS. DM 2525 did a great cartoon on that
I think most Christians are ignorant of these horrors. I never read Judges 20 until after I became an atheist.
Fair point for sure. I wonder why though lol
@@MindShift-Brandon Probably to avoid making more atheists.
No One made me Join did it myself. I DIDN'T READ the FILTHY, EVIL, PSYCHO BOOK. Thought they were stories about YWH and such. I found christendumb2 and he showed me YWH BOOK has MANY, Contradictions and ALL his BOOK is True. That all I NEEDED. Then did Videos on the rest of the BOOK. WHAT EVIL.
I truly love talking to theist about such horrors in the Bible then they say, "Well that's the Old Testament." Yet, they'll cherry pick whatever else they want that fits their narrative or comfortable with. 🤦♂️
Its so frustrating. Ive stopped arguing and say fine, lets talk about the new. Theres plenty of problems there too lol.
Cherry-picking is lying so every Christian I’ve ever known has been a liar. What a F**up religion.
But the bible says that he is the same God as he was and that he never changes...
My ex coworker sayed then - that's not true, that's not in the Bible.
That was her answer on every problematic verse.
I read that book, I fucking knew it was there, but she will always say that it's not true...
Devote christians loves to gaslighting and brin the bible topic up in every room were it's don't belong.
Samson was the prototype of a taliban.
When he had a plane back then, he would fly it in that building.
He killed himself, which is a sin, and he killed many innocent people in there.
The children in there done no harm to him...
But he is the hero.
There is also some magic going on without God's power with his hair...
You know, other religions exist.
It seems to me that God picked the wrong people. The Canaanites were able to remain loyal to their false Gods with no problem. Why the Israelites couldn't do the same to the real one is a mystery.
Lol. This is a great take!
Can't you see how that means God had to kill his own child to deal with the humans....it's so logical😮
One of my favorite things about your channel, up and above the excellent information and Analysis, is how smooth and natural your delivery is. The flow of your talks feel smooth and Polished while simultaneously feeling totally natural and unscripted.
Thats a great compliment and really wonderful for me to hear. It is all unscripted. I do my research and reread each book right before i film and then hit play and go. I often feel its clumsy or redundant etc so thanks again.
Yes! And the length of the videos are perfect too.
Thats great to hear. Thanks, Kristi!
I agree with this!!
Jephthah also loses points for effectively *blaming* his daughter for making HIM feel bad, even though SHE'S the one losing her life! Too bad she doesn't get the Isaac treatment...Still, I find it amusing to think that she bought herself a couple of months time up in the mountains to "mourn her virginity"; something tells me that by the time she came down, that was looong since sacrificed itself!
It’s that good ole misogyny that’s echoed all throughout the Bible 😃
It's a perfect narcissist reasoning that it's her fault, and she makes him feel bad. He was up to get rid of his wife without taking responsibility for it.
And surprise - his doaughter came aut.
And God, as the greater narcissist, let him kill this innocent child for him.
@@iaminevitable_💯💯💯🎯 Killing a wife or daughter is just the same as killing a goat for gwad.
People always talk about how Lot was willing to throw his young virgin daughters out to be gangraped by a mob, but few bring up the (curiously unnamed) guy at the end of Judges who actually DOES this with his wife/concubine...And then cuts up her body (possibly killing him himself, the wording is unclear) to MAIL her remains to each of the tribes! Today, that looks like *serial killer* behavior! While the tribal leadership is outraged, it's less so at him, then at the cause of the whole situation...and he never gets ANY comeuppance at all. Ugh...
All stoires of the people ruled by a loving god
Yes utter madness!
Jesus called Lot a ‘righteous man’ even though he wanted his daughters to be gang raped and then later those same daughters got their daddy drunk and raped him on two successive nights. What people don’t talk about is how could Mr Lot obtain, maintain an erection and then orgasm inside his daughters two nights in a row while passed out drunk. The only true explanation was Mr Lot knew what was going on and feigned being drunk so he could screw his little girls. And then, against astronomical odds, BOTH daughters had male sons. And all this happened under the extreme stresses of being forced to leave their home, losing a wife and living in complete uncertainty in a cave. Normal males would be thinking of all those things and not even be able to get an erection.
Btw, I wonder if Bill Cosby was inspired by the Lot story. After all, he drugged his victims before raping them just like the Lot girls did.
I'd put the sacrifice of Jephthah's daughter above even that... He made a _burnt offering_ out of her - and the preparations for _that_ are just gruesome. Skinning, collecting the blood, ... 🥴🤢
@@Wolf-ln1mlTrue, and Christians just lap it all up. When I ask them about all the people murdered in gods name they all say those people deserved to die. I guess you have to be a psychopath to be a Christian.
Thank you so much for this series! I attended Catholic school K - 12 but learned almost nothing of the Old Testament. We were taught about Adam and Eve, Noah, and Moses. That’s it. Now I know why. Even without the Old Testament, I was ready to leave the church as soon as I graduated from high school. I spent the next several decades trying to figure out my religious/spiritual beliefs before finally settling in my mind that I was an atheist.
My pleasure. Its amazing how a whole religion can feel ok about skipping 75% of the bible
I attended Catholic school from kindergarten to 3rd grade, then CCD until the end of 8th grade. Most of my religious education focused on prayers, sacraments, elements of mass, and the Stations of the Cross. We were taught some Bible stories and a few major figures, but little more. The first time I read the Bible cover to cover as a teenager, I was revolted by the evil it contained.
Jephthae is described in the New Testament as an example of faith for us to follow. See Hebrews 11:29-34. Yes, this Jephthae is the same Jephthah who sacrificed his daughter to Yahweh in Judges 11:29-40.
20 years ago when I read this book my heart broke about that child sacrifice and the part where God sent and evil spirit just blew my mind! And yet I kept ignoring it hoping that at some time later I would understand.
How about Keep the Virgins for yourself. How is it what 1,000, 2,000 years of OT these SCUMBAGS Followed this EVIL TRASH. Then 2,000 of OT, NT. HUMANS are EVIL, STUPID GARBAGE.
I always wondered why you would call killing somebody else a sacrifice. It's their life you are offering. Seems like if it was a sacrifice you would have to offer your own life.
Exactly. So true. Don't send a scapegoat to do a man's job. Cowards.
23:30 … Deborah! I worked on an archaeological dig in Israel excavating a 5th century synagogue in Galilee. The excavation seasons spanned 12 years (2011 - 2023 with two years off due to the Covid Pandemic). The synagogue is large and features a mosaic floor covering the entire interior illustrating Biblical (Old Testament) and non-Biblical events (which is significant). Early on panels were revealed showing Samson and the flame-tailed foxes and Samson carrying off the gates of Gaza etc. In 2022 a section came to light that featured Deborah and the death of Sisera! Pretty significant! As far as we know this is the first depiction of a female Judge in a synagogue!
Yeah, when I first read Judges I was struck by the utter stupidity of the Israelis. They were always backsliding on YHWH at every opportunity - and it's not like YHWH was an unevidenced being in their lives - he was constantly intervening on their behalf and demonstrating to them that he existed. Good analysis of the genre, the best one yet. And I see that you blew thru the 5K subscriber mark! Congrats! I'm looking forward to the 10K subscriber party.
It is slightly more believable (though only slightly) if you consider that the historical Israelites were not monotheistic yet, and actually believed the rest of the Canaanite gods existed. It's hypothetically possible that they could've come to believe it was a different god that had caused the miracle, not Yahweh, and decided to "fuck around and find out," so to speak.
Lol great point!
Thanks so much for watching and the great encouragement!
Yes!
I was raised the daughter of a Baptist minister.We never spent much time devoted to OT study. Genesis, Exodus,a few Psalms,then straight on into the NT...I now know why. Most of my family remains in the dark. Occasionally,one will inquire as to the condition of my "immortal soul" and click their tongues when I tell them Im still an Atheist... I am the only one who has taken the time to study the Bible in earnest -they instead, continue on, in their blind ignorance. The god of the Abrahamic religions is the personification of evil. How anyone can read the Bible and come to the conclusion that their god is a god of love is beyond me. Thank you Brandon. You are doing important work.
The worst part of the Jepthah story for me is that Paul praises him for his faith. Can you imagine a family-murderer today being commended for his faith because he said to God beforehand, "If I get what I want, I'll sacrifice the first person in my family who comes out of the door"? No, that's not praiseworthy faith. That's psychosis and sociopathy.
Covering this soon actually!
I always thought that Jephthah expected an animal to be the first thing out of his house, a dog or goat-but i could be conflating it with later fairy tales such as The Silver Hands that use the same device. I never thought of all the other human candidates in the household
There is always one trait of yahweh that every Christian forgets Omnihypocritical.
Ha. Love that. We should make a new omnilist
@@MindShift-Brandon ok if we are making a list
Omnihypocritical
Omni incompetent
Please add more
Might make a whole video on it. Could be fun
@@MindShift-Brandon not sure if you caught my baud2bitz comment on your Satan's hiddeness video but its a link to an early 20th century book about the devil through the ages.
Is omni-absent an oxymoron?
Welcome to Judges! Most of this episode takes place in point 7, errors, contradictions, and especially problematic verses. Hope you learn something!
ALSO last day to post questions for my Q&A. See my community tab.
Talk about barbarrionism!- "..they pursued him, caught him, and cut off his thumbs and big toes."(Judges 1:6)
Shite is wild!
Bravo! This is my favorite book breakdown yet! So much depraved material to work through. 🤢 Your gesture at 34:57 sums it up perfectly. 😂 I might also point out that Samson's Nazirite hair directly conflicts with Corinthians where it says it is a shame for a man to have long hair. No wonder the gate to righteousness is so narrow; it seems to move around a lot.
Lol! That last line is gold. Im gonna use it for a title sometime if you don’t mind. And thank you!
I was in a small church group and we did Judges. We thought it was pretty horrific too. The pastor saw it as an example of man’s desire to return to sin.
Yea. Always a way to justify it. Yuck
Your Paster did the typical song and dance.
I think what's "great" is when some push hard and constantly about SKIRTS from the simple comment about MODESTY and yet with an ENTIRE BOOK they just say it's one simple topic and nothing to see here.
This stuff is comedy gold to me, I may actually have to read the whole book just to see how horrific this god character is.
Have fun! Its wild
You found some amazing artwork for your Secular Bible study. I look forward to each one.
Thanks so much. I use an AI art generator for each.
Tbh, I don't think I remember any bible studies that examined Judges for long, if at all. When I led my bible study, we did go through it, but the Christian take is to deflect from what the Judges DO necessarily and focus on God allowing Deborah to be a Judge and cherry pick the good parts. The Canaanites were so evil it justified the violence against them and the whole problem was Israel's fault because they didn't genocide the land like god said.
I know I made it sound intentional, but it's not intentional. It's the way you're trained to think, as a Christian. That's why Brandon's bible studies are so good - they make a good counterpoint.
And the deeper you go, the worse it gets.
Thanks for sharing here! And yes. Exactly. Its not manipulative by the believer. Its just so ingrained in us that this is how to view it etc.
I remember a lot of focus on Samson’s Nazarene vows giving him strength, and how we have to obey God’s rules to enjoy his blessings-plus lessons about that evil Delilah and being unequally yoked
"Trained to think" equals brainwashing
One of the things that's so strange to me about Yahweh, is that his Old Testament portrayals are not too dissimilar to how the devil is traditionally depicted. Especially with how he makes deals with people. It makes you wonder if the Gnostic Christians were actually right. 😔
You are really cranking this content out! Good quality too, as always.
Thank you much!
the same person tried many lines of apologetics with me in a comment section for Jephta. First he said the daughter didn't die, just never married (the same I heard in church, which btw imo is so popular because that is what the story is highlighting, how tragic it was that this unamed girl was never possessed by any man and didn't bear any children - see how said, her life had no meaning, because without marrying and bearing children a woman's life is just pointless, every one mourned her for it). then he said it was ok, because the girl agreed. then he said Jephta didn't expect it to be a human, but houses back then had two stories and the humans lived in the upstairs part, and the animals downstairs. My answer is, couldn't god have, like you said, not take the deal, or send a prophet to the house to warn the family, or caused an animal to cross his path b4 the daughter, or even proposed a substitution, like with Isaac? There is also the story of Jonathan having to die due the the vow made by his father, the people rise against it, and it is just dropped. The only distinctive aspect here is that it is a female - Is that the reason why it doesn't count as a human sacrifice😢? Would track with the fact that in all lists women are counted with the cattle and slaves. Also, I guess she was not worthy of being a type for the sacrifice of Jesus like Isaac, since apparently the whole bible is supposed to be about that.
What I find really curious is that pastors love to point to the fact that without a king, the people did what was right in their own eyes, like this excuses the atrocities of Judges. But then they ignore the fact that God was AGAINST them having a king. He liked the judges.
I so much appreciate you pointing out the sinful behaviors of God, example after example of God violating the very same moral injunctions that he expects all of mankind to obey, this is really an eye-opening understanding of the character of the God of the Bible. The vast majority of Christendom has never had the objectivity or scholastic courage to recognize and declare that the God of the Bible - by the evidence presented in his own word - is a profound and hardcore and inveterate offender.
Once again, fantastic work Brandon. Keep exposing the insanity!
Exposing the insanity is a great title! And thank you very much.
24:47 I've found my new band name "Jephthah and the Problematic Verses"😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol! Daughter of Jephthah would have been a great emo band name. Woe is me. Dying so young and still with my virginity.
@@MindShift-Brandon LOL. omg it was so clearly written by a man SMH. Guaranteed his daughter wouldn't have given a crap about that over "MY DAD'S GOING TO OFF ME"
@@MindShift-Brandon On second thought, have you considered reaching out to Morrissey about joining? Good fit. 🤔😄
@@MindShift-BrandonGreat band name ;). I guess they could sing patsy Cline’s song “I Fall To Pieces” about her 12 parts getting sent to the 12 Jewish tribes. What tribe or person would take 1/12th of a little girl? What psychopaths all those people are!
Amazing video and it's clear you have fully digested this topic. I feel like you should have 100xmore subscribers!
Wow. Thanks so much! Slowly and surely. Appreciate your support and encouragement though.
@@MindShift-Brandon You're more than welcome I will be watching and sharing... I watch a lot of secular biblical scholarship and this is just incredibly well done. Cheers man.
I suspect that Jeptha was HOPING that his wife would have been the first one out the door, lol.
In the problematic verse, it's states the spirit of the Lord came upon the judge, something you point out indicates a lack of free will.
So not only did God except the child sacrifice, he created the event that led to it.
When discussing these subjects with Christians, the only even semi rational explanation for the apparent evil of God is that God is omniscient and therefore what appears evil to us is actually good and serves his plan, so he is actually omni-benevolent. The problem with this argument is that the opposite could be equally said, e.g. God is in fact Omni malevolent, and all the things that he does that seem evil are evil, and all the things that he does that seem good are also in fact evil and serve his unknowable evil plan, we just can't see why because we are not omniscient like him. And since it seems to me that there are far more apparently evil Acts that would have to be justified by his omniscience then there are good acts which would require the same, it could be argued that it is more likely that God is in fact Omni malevolent. Although the most likely argument seems to me to be that there simply is no God at all involved in these horrific actions, and they are simply the actions of a group of people who were perfectly typical for their time and place, in both Good and Evil.
I like your idea about deconstructing Bible stories for a future video. I had a similar idea and published a book about it a couple of months ago. Deconstructed: Bible Stories for Critical Thinkers by Paul Curtis. Bible study for those unafraid to ask difficult questions, and freely examine other points of view. Stories examined include David & Bathsheba, The Battle of Jericho, Elijah and the Prophets of Baal, and many more. The Apostle Paul's teachings on slavery and women's rights, as well as Jesus' teachings on prayer and Hell, are included. Each story references the Bible verses associated with it.
I will check it out!
It is important to note that this is not the only human sacrifice. I posted that already here but this video matches it, so I post it again. I want to ask abrahamic believers: What makes your holy book different than the pagan ones?
Additionally MindShift please make a video about the difference between Gentiles and Israelites. I think that is as important to understand that this book is promising the destruction and enslavement of the Gentiles which is literally everyone else but an Israelite.
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So here we go with more human sacrifices.
Exodus 22:29-30
"29“You shall not delay the offering from the fullness of your harvest and the juice of your wine vat. The firstborn of your sons you shall give to Me. 30And you shall do the same with your oxen and with your sheep. It shall be with its mother seven days; on the eighth day you shall give it to Me."
Here it states that the firstborn of the Israelites children shall be given to him. Afterwards he said the same about the firstborn animals too. What happens to the animals given to him? They were sacrificed. But that is not enough so let's get a bit more Information.
Exodus 13:1-2
"1Then Yahweh spoke to Moses, saying, 2“Sanctify to Me every firstborn, the first offspring of every womb among the sons of Israel, both of man and beast; it belongs to Me.”"
Here we have another quote which states the same. Now let's take a look at what happens to the things devoted to him.
Leviticus 27:28-29
"28‘Nevertheless, anything which a man devotes to Yahweh out of all that he has, of man or animal or of the fields of his own possession, shall not be sold or redeemed. Anything devoted to destruction is most holy to Yahweh. 29No one who may have been devoted among men shall be ransomed; he shall surely be put to death."
Anything devoted to the biblical God out of all he has, of MAN or ANIMAL shall not be sold or redeemed. It shall be surely put to death. That's human sacrifice. But is there another part in the bible which is a bit more specific? Yes, there is take a look at this:
Ezekiel 20:25-26
"25And I also gave them statutes that were not good and judgments by which they could not live; 26and I pronounced them unclean because of their gifts, in that they caused all their firstborn to pass through the fire so that I might make them desolate, in order that they might know that I am Yahweh.” ’"
Here it is stated openly. All their firstborns were passed through the fire. That's a human sacrifice. The reason for this in context was for "punishment" but it does not change the fact that they were human sacrifices.
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Deuteronomy 13:12-16
"12“If you hear in one of your cities, which Yahweh your God is giving you to live in, anyone saying that 13some vile men have gone out from among you and have driven the inhabitants of their city astray, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods’ (whom you have not known), 14then you shall inquire and search out and ask thoroughly. Behold, if it is true and the matter is confirmed, that this abomination has been done among you, 15you shall surely strike the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, devoting it to destruction and all that is in it and its cattle with the edge of the sword. 16Then you shall gather all its spoil into the middle of its open square and burn the city and all its spoil with fire as a whole burnt offering to Yahweh your God; and it shall be a ruin forever. It shall never be rebuilt."
Here you might say that the people getting killed in that city are not human sacrifices directly because you sacrifice their belongings. But you can say that this is an indirect human sacrifice to appease anger. These quotes also give you the possibility to attack people who don't believe in the abrahamic God.
love this added context, Thanks so much. Wonderful points and love having this all in one place.
@@MindShift-Brandon No problem. But again I hope you make a video which shows the different treatment between Gentiles and Israelites. That's totally mind blowing. Afterall if the promises of the biblical God haven't been removed after the NT then this would still be valid. Let me copy that again, just the things I gathered are so much that it takes 2 comments to fill:
Isaiah 60:16
"You will also suck the milk of nations And suck the breast of kings; Then you will know that I, Yahweh, am your Savior And your Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob."
Deuteronomy 11:23-25
"23then Yahweh will dispossess all these nations from before you, and you will dispossess nations greater and mightier than you. 24Every place on which the sole of your foot treads shall be yours; your border will be from the wilderness to Lebanon, and from the river, the river Euphrates, as far as the western sea. 25No man will be able to stand before you; Yahweh your God will put the dread of you and the fear of you on all the land on which you set foot, as He has spoken to you."
Here it is stated that all the nations from Gentiles will become the property of the Israelites.
Psalms 47:3
"3He subdues peoples under us
And nations under our feet."
Again the people from the nations also known as Gentiles will be subdued.
Deuteronomy 14:21
"21“You shall not eat anything which dies of itself. You may give it to the sojourner who is within your gates, so that he may eat it, or you may sell it to a foreigner, for you are a holy people to Yahweh your God. You shall not boil a young goat in its mother’s milk."
In short if you find a road kill you can sell that to Gentiles.
Deuteronomy 23:20
"20You may charge interest to a foreigner, but to your brother you shall not charge interest, so that Yahweh your God may bless you in all that you send forth your hand to do in the land which you are about to enter to possess."
In short you can trick Gentiles with high interest rates and suck them dry.
Deuteronomy 7:22-24
"22And Yahweh your God will clear away these nations before you little by little; you will not be able to put an end to them quickly, lest the wild beasts become too numerous for you. 23But Yahweh your God will give them over before you and will throw them into great confusion until they are destroyed. 24And He will give their kings into your hand so that you will make their name perish from under heaven; no man will be able to stand before you until you have destroyed them."
Wow! Here the nations will be slowly destroyed little by little and take note we are even called wild beasts here. And how is he going to destroy us? Through confusion. How do you confuse? Through deception. A mighty God needs deception to beat mere humans? Oh, sorry I mean mere beasts! A God standing in truth needs deception to handle the nations? Really?
Deuteronomy 2:25
"25This day I will begin to put the dread and fear of you upon the peoples everywhere under the heavens, who, when they hear the report of you, will tremble and be in anguish because of you.’"
In context this was after some slaughters in which he gave the Amorites into their hands. But recognize that he speaking here about everywhere under the heavens. So all on earth. He is stating here that he will make all people fear the Israelites. That they are in anguist because of them. Does that sound like a good deity to you?
Leviticus 25:44-46
"44As for your male and female slaves whom you may have-you may acquire male and female slaves from the nations that are around you. 45And also you may acquire from the sons of the foreign residents who sojourn among you, from them and their families who are with you; as for those whom they have begotten in your land, they also may become your possession. 46You may even give them as an inheritance to your sons after you, to receive as a possession; you can use them as permanent slaves. But in respect to your brothers, the sons of Israel, you shall not have dominion over one another with brutality."
Take a look at how Gentiles become permanent slaves who can even be inherited. You can even be brutal to them as long as they are not Israelites. How brutal can you be? Let's check this out:
Exodus 21:20-21
"20“And if a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod and he dies at his hand, he shall surely be punished. 21But if for a day or two he is able to stand, no punishment shall be taken; for he is his property."
Isaiah 61:5-6
"5Strangers will stand and pasture your flocks,
And foreigners will be your farmers and your vinedressers.
6But you will be called the priests of Yahweh;
You will be spoken of as ministers of our God.
You will eat the wealth of nations,
And in their glories you will boast."
In short Gentiles become your labor force and you will suck their wealth away from them. And you can even boast about robbing others of their labor.
Isaiah 45:14
"14Thus says Yahweh,
“The fruit of the labor of Egypt and the profit of Ethiopia
And the Sabeans, men of stature,
Will come over to you and will be yours;
They will walk behind you; they will come over in chains
And will bow down to you;
They will make supplication to you:
‘Surely, God is with you, and there is none else,
No other God.’ ”"
Another one which promises enslavement of Gentiles. In this regards it mentioned some specific nations though.
Isaiah 60:10-12
"10“Foreigners will build up your walls,
And their kings will minister to you;
For in My wrath I struck you,
And in My favor I have had compassion on you.
11“Your gates will be open continually;
They will not be closed day or night,
So that men may bring to you the wealth of the nations,
With their kings led in procession.
12“For the nation and the kingdom which will not serve you will perish,
And the nations will surely be laid waste."
Here we go again: Suck the nations of their wealth and the ones who don't want to will be destroyed. In short become their labor slave or die.
Isaiah 49:23
"23“Kings will be your guardians,
And their princesses your nurses.
They will bow down to you with their faces to the earth
And lick the dust of your feet;
And you will know that I am Yahweh;
Those who hope in Me will not be put to shame."
Here the Kings of the Gentiles will become guardians and nurses and kneel in front of them and get humiliated.
Jeremiah 1:10
"10“See, I have appointed you this day over the nations and over the kingdoms,
To uproot and to tear down,
To cause to perish and to pull down,
To build and to plant.”"
How nice. Here they have the "divine" right to uproot and tear down the nations without their consent of course.
Jeremiah 46:28
"28“O Jacob My servant, do not fear,” declares Yahweh,
“For I am with you.
For I will make a complete destruction of all the nations
Where I have banished you,
Yet I will not make a complete destruction of you;
But I will discipline you with justice
And by no means leave you unpunished.”"
Read this. He will make a COMPLETE destruction of ALL the nations where he has the "Chosens" banished to. So if a Chosenite is in your country then according to this, your country will be completely destroyed. You find more or less the same quotes in Jeremiah 30:10-11.
Jeremiah 51:20-23
"20 He says, “You are My instrument of shattering, My weapon of war;
And with you I shatter nations,
And with you I destroy kingdoms.
21“With you I shatter the horse and his rider,
And with you I shatter the chariot and its rider,
22And with you I shatter man and woman,
And with you I shatter old man and youth,
And with you I shatter choice man and virgin,
23And with you I shatter the shepherd and his flock,
And with you I shatter the farmer and his pair of oxen,
And with you I shatter governors and prefects."
Before I start, these quotes are in context with the calamity against Babylon. But since he is speaking generally in these quotes I added them. Look what he is saying. The Israelites are his weapon of war which brings destruction to Gentiles. And of course he has to go into details like shattering man, woman, old man and young and so on. Please now, just imagine there are some Israelites/Jews who take that book seriously with quotes like this. Don't you think they would be a danger to all other people on this planet?
Daniel 2:44
"44And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will cause a kingdom to rise up which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people; it will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will itself stand forever."
The context here is the dream which Daniel interpreted. Well that's something all the abrahamic faith believers want because they think that it's the rule of their savior. But at the end of the day this is one world government. A system once it is corrupt will bring a nightmare to all the common people on this planet. Everyone supporting one world government is in my opinion an enemy "a Satan" to all the commoners.
Psalms 2:8-9
"8Ask of Me, and I will surely give the nations as Your inheritance,
And the ends of the earth as Your possession.
9You shall break them with a rod of iron,
You shall shatter them like a potter’s vessel.”"
Here you can get Gentiles as possession by demand and are allowed to crush them.
@@MindShift-Brandon And the second. That just what I gathered there is more in there though:
Matthew 15:21-28
"21And going away from there, Jesus withdrew into the district of Tyre and Sidon. 22And behold, a Canaanite woman from that region came out and began to cry out, saying, “Have mercy on me, Lord, Son of David; my daughter is cruelly demon-possessed.” 23But He did not answer her a word. And His disciples came and were pleading with Him, saying, “Send her away, because she keeps shouting at us.” 24But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” 25But she came and was bowing down before Him, saying, “Lord, help me!” 26And He answered and said, “It is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to the dogs.” 27But she said, “Yes, Lord; but even the dogs feed on the crumbs which fall from their masters’ table.” 28Then Jesus answered and said to her, “O woman, your faith is great; it shall be done for you as you wish.” And her daughter was healed at once."
Take a look at how a Gentile woman is treated here. Only after admitting that she is a dog she got help. The others got healed just by asking but she had to be humiliated before.
Romans 11:11
"11I say then, did they stumble so as to fall? May it never be! But by their transgression salvation has come to the Gentiles, to make them jealous"
And here we listen to the reason why Gentiles got saved. They got saved to make the Jews jealous.
Revelation 2:26-28
"26And he who overcomes, and he who keeps My deeds until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations; 27and he shall rule them with a rod of iron, as the vessels of the potter are broken to pieces, as I also have received authority from My Father; 28and I will give him the morning star."
And here at the very end the nations, the "Gentiles" will be given again. And how are they going to be ruled? With a rod of iron which means being ruled in a strict and cruel way.
Or take a look at this beauty in how to achieve such results:
Isaiah 19:1-4
"1The oracle concerning Egypt.
Behold, Yahweh is riding on a swift cloud and is about to come to Egypt;
The idols of Egypt will shake at His presence,
And the heart of the Egyptians will melt within them.
2“So I will incite Egyptians against Egyptians;
And they will each fight against his brother and each against his neighbor,
City against city and kingdom against kingdom.
3“Then the spirit of the Egyptians will be emptied to destruction within them;
And I will confuse their counsel,
So that they will seek idols and ghosts of the dead
And to mediums and spiritists.
4“Moreover, I will deliver the Egyptians into the hand of a cruel master,
And a strong king will rule over them,” declares the Lord, Yahweh of hosts."
Replace Egyptians with any other people from nations. This is by the way what would one expect for the idea of Subversion.
I gotta say, Ive read much of the OT but I dont know HOW I failed to remember the obvious human sacrifice parts. I mean it's quite clearly spelled out in those verses you cited.
Pretty nuts. We all just ignored it, turned a blind eye, or made excuses
You know what is really sad about the one judge that's a woman, it's the Christians say "See how wicked Israel was! It was so bad that God had to appoint Debra as a judge because there were no men good enough to be a judge at that time!" So, some Christians manage to take a rare example of God impowering a woman and make it sexist. I mean, I agree that the Christian God is sexist, but it's funny to me that sometimes Christians will say it and not hear it and I'm not sure the Dabra is an example of God's sexism.
Man, great point.
Giving birth to my daughter was the final nail in my deconstruction largely because of Bible books/verses like these. (The virginity test in Deuteronomy 22 was the biggest one. How could the creator of humanity NOT know that not every women has “proof” of virginity, even if she is one?).
I know women are less likely to leave the faith, but I don’t understand why (and I know your wife is one of those, so no offense intended). I don’t know how a woman could read these horrific stories of sexual slavery, kidnapping, and r@pe that seem to be sanctioned, or at least overlooked, by God and continue to worship this being. I just do not understand.
As a woman whos deconstructing, its because you are taught from the start that you are absolute scum and ANY kindness is a mercy you dont deserve and should be grateful for. You are also saddled with the responsability of everyone elses happiness.
They one two punch you with a. Indoctrinating you not to think and then b. Ensuring you dont have time to think.
Ill use ONE example. At around 10 years old my private christian school began their s 3 x ed (ill abbreviate it as $ for youtubes sensitivities). They didnt teach the mechanics of $, but everything around it. Here was the list i remember, and keep in mind these were blatant points or straight up quotes
The two most important factors in choosing a husband was a. He needed to be a church going christian and b. He needed to be rich. In fact they asked us girls to make a list of what we wanted, and up on the board we'd compiled things like humor, kindness, good at listening, liked the same shows or animals or hobbies as us (child speak for common interest), and were told that our list lacked the MOST IMPORTANT part, money
Once you had $ 3 x you were no longer pure, which is why you only did it with one man in your life, so that you werent brought too low or ruined too much, and also so the man didn't have to settle for used goods
$ outside marriage was unforgivable, and while you could make it to heaven you shouldnt get married after, should handle any children alone, and could no longer live gods true purpose for your life in full
Also $ drive was "male only", you shouldnt think about or look forwards to $ EVEN AFTER MARRIAGE because (quote) "its impure desire, $ is for your husband and making christian babies. Your husband will want it enough for the both of you, and will tell you when its time to do it anyways."
Don't even think about it, that's BAD for you.
If your husband isnt converted and saved its your fault for picking badly, abd now that your stuck with him its your fault that your example doesnt lead him to god, and its your fault you arent praying hard enough
If your kids arent saved or fall away its also your fault for not picking a husband that enforced religion properly and also the prayer thing
If you end up divorced the man clearly only left because you werent fulfilling all his needs, and if its an abuse case its your fault for picking poorly, or for provoking him to anger by not being godly enough
On top of this church often becomes the ONLY place a woman can ever socialize due to a. Time if shes a house wife or b. The only place shes ALLOWED to socialize in a "safe/acceptable" way if she works, because she either has to proselytize her coworkers into avoidance or not engage with the worldly
This is a tiny slice, it was this level of bs with everything. Dont be a leader, thats for men. Always look to a man (father, pastor, husband, even brother) for directions and money. Have babies. Stay home.
R@pe is your fault because you were wearing something or leading someone on
Illness is your fault for not praying enough--including others illnesses
If a woman is sacrificed/sold by a man that's his RIGHT, if God told him to do it
If kidnapped women were made wives then they clearly consented, and it's better to be a wife than not so it's a net positive in the end anyways
If they were made slaves--well, they didn't pray enough
Sin in general is your fault because eve was a woman, which is why you are second class. On and on
Every question i ever asked as a kid was shut down, called doubt and treated as sin, or brushed off with "christians dont think about negative things, only gods light".
Dont think. Dont think. Dont think. Dont ask questions
Mind you THESE WERE NOT FUNDAMENTALISTS. They all lived their very modern and hypocritical lives. And STILL all this was taught and left us children in horribly confusion
Out of the 30 some girls i was grouped with, i and 1 other were the only ones NOT married by 19. And at 26 now, im still the only one single and without kids.
I dont know if i would have made it this far intellectually under a christian husband, dealing with 2-5 children, still in a church circuit at least once a week--more, because women also dud all the volunteer work, events, fundraisers etc. I ended up in a public highschool that gave me some perspective, then got a job and lived at home which, while still dealing with an abusive christian father, gave me TIME and space to think and slowly break the chains
As a woman whos deconstructing, its because you are taught from the start that you are absolute scum and ANY kindness is a mercy you dont deserve and should be grateful for. You are also saddled with the responsability of everyone elses happiness.
They one two punch you with a. Indoctrinating you not to think and then b. Ensuring you dont have time to think.
Ill use ONE example. At around 10 years old my private christian school began their s 3 x ed (ill abbreviate it as $ for youtubes sensitivities). They didnt teach the mechanics of $, but everything around it. Here was the list i remember, and keep in mind these were blatant points or straight up quotes
The two most important factors in choosing a husband was a. He needed to be a church going christian and b. He needed to be rich. In fact they asked us girls to make a list of what we wanted, and up on the board we'd compiled things like humor, kindness, good at listening, liked the same shows or animals or hobbies as us (child speak for common interest), and were told that our list lacked the MOST IMPORTANT part, money
Once you had $ 3 x you were no longer pure, which is why you only did it with one man in your life, so that you werent brought too low or ruined too much, and also so the man didn't have to settle for used goods
$ outside marriage was unforgivable, and while you could make it to heaven you shouldnt get married after, should handle any children alone, and could no longer live gods true purpose for your life in full
Also $ drive was "male only", you shouldnt think about or look forwards to $ EVEN AFTER MARRIAGE because (quote) "its impure desire, $ is for your husband and making christian babies. Your husband will want it enough for the both of you, and will tell you when its time to do it anyways."
Don't even think about it, that's BAD for you.
If your husband isnt converted and saved its your fault for picking badly, abd now that your stuck with him its your fault that your example doesnt lead him to god, and its your fault you arent praying hard enough
If your kids arent saved or fall away its also your fault for not picking a husband that enforced religion properly and also the prayer thing
If you end up divorced the man clearly only left because you werent fulfilling all his needs, and if its an abuse case its your fault for picking poorly, or for provoking him to anger by not being godly enough
On top of this church often becomes the ONLY place a woman can ever socialize due to a. Time if shes a house wife or b. The only place shes ALLOWED to socialize in a "safe/acceptable" way if she works, because she either has to proselytize her coworkers into avoidance or not engage with the worldly
This is a tiny slice, it was this level of bs with everything. Dont be a leader, thats for men. Always look to a man (father, pastor, husband, even brother) for directions and money. Have babies. Stay home.
R@pe is your fault because you were wearing something or leading someone on
Illness is your fault for not praying enough--including others illnesses
If a woman is sacrificed/sold by a man that's his RIGHT, if God told him to do it
If kidnapped women were made wives then they clearly consented, and it's better to be a wife than not so it's a net positive in the end anyways
If they were made slaves--well, they didn't pray enough
Sin in general is your fault because eve was a woman, which is why you are second class. On and on
Every question i ever asked as a kid was shut down, called doubt and treated as sin, or brushed off with "christians dont think about negative things, only gods light".
Dont think. Dont think. Dont think. Dont ask questions
Mind you THESE WERE NOT FUNDAMENTALISTS. They all lived their very modern and hypocritical lives. And STILL all this was taught and left us children in horribly confusion
Out of the 30 some girls i was grouped with, i and 1 other were the only ones NOT married by 19. And at 26 now, im still the only one single and without kids.
I dont know if i would have made it this far intellectually under a christian husband, dealing with 2-5 children, still in a church circuit at least once a week--more, because women also dud all the volunteer work, events, fundraisers etc. I ended up in a public highschool that gave me some perspective, then got a job and lived at home which, while still dealing with an abusive christian father, gave me TIME and space to think and slowly break the chains
As a woman whos deconstructing, its because you are taught from the start that you are absolute scum and ANY kindness is a mercy you dont deserve and should be grateful for. You are also saddled with the responsability of everyone elses happiness.
They one two punch you with a. Indoctrinating you not to think and then b. Ensuring you dont have time to think.
Ill use ONE example. At around 10 years old my private christian school began their s 3 x ed (ill abbreviate it as $ for youtubes sensitivities). They didnt teach the mechanics of $, but everything around it. Here was the list i remember, and keep in mind these were blatant points or straight up quotes
The two most important factors in choosing a husband was a. He needed to be a church going christian and b. He needed to be rich. In fact they asked us girls to make a list of what we wanted, and up on the board we'd compiled things like humor, kindness, good at listening, liked the same shows or animals or hobbies as us (child speak for common interest), and were told that our list lacked the MOST IMPORTANT part, money
Once you had $ 3 x you were no longer pure, which is why you only did it with one man in your life, so that you werent brought too low or ruined too much, and also so the man didn't have to settle for used goods
$ outside marriage was unforgivable, and while you could make it to heaven you shouldnt get married after, should handle any children alone, and could no longer live gods true purpose for your life in full
Also $ drive was "male only", you shouldnt think about or look forwards to $ EVEN AFTER MARRIAGE because (quote) "its impure desire, $ is for your husband and making christian babies. Your husband will want it enough for the both of you, and will tell you when its time to do it anyways."
Don't even think about it, that's BAD for you.
If your husband isnt converted and saved its your fault for picking badly, abd now that your stuck with him its your fault that your example doesnt lead him to god, and its your fault you arent praying hard enough
If your kids arent saved or fall away its also your fault for not picking a husband that enforced religion properly and also the prayer thing
If you end up divorced the man clearly only left because you werent fulfilling all his needs, and if its an abuse case its your fault for picking poorly, or for provoking him to anger by not being godly enough
On top of this church often becomes the ONLY place a woman can ever socialize due to a. Time if shes a house wife or b. The only place shes ALLOWED to socialize in a "safe/acceptable" way if she works, because she either has to proselytize her coworkers into avoidance or not engage with the worldly
This is a tiny slice, it was this level of bs with everything. Dont be a leader, thats for men. Always look to a man (father, pastor, husband, even brother) for directions and money. Have babies. Stay home.
R@pe is your fault because you were wearing something or leading someone on
Illness is your fault for not praying enough--including others illnesses
If a woman is sacrificed/sold by a man that's his RIGHT, if God told him to do it
If kidnapped women were made wives then they clearly consented, and it's better to be a wife than not so it's a net positive in the end anyways
If they were made slaves--well, they didn't pray enough
Sin in general is your fault because eve was a woman, which is why you are second class. On and on
Every question i ever asked as a kid was shut down, called doubt and treated as sin, or brushed off with "christians dont think about negative things, only gods light".
Dont think. Dont think. Dont think. Dont ask questions
Mind you THESE WERE NOT FUNDAMENTALISTS. They all lived their very modern and hypocritical lives. And STILL all this was taught and left us children in horribly confusion
Out of the 30 some girls i was grouped with, i and 1 other were the only ones NOT married by 19. And at 26 now, im still the only one single and without kids.
I dont know if i would have made it this far intellectually under a christian husband, dealing with 2-5 children, still in a church circuit at least once a week--more, because women also dud all the volunteer work, events, fundraisers etc. I ended up in a public highschool that gave me some perspective, then got a job and lived at home which, while still dealing with an abusive christian father, gave me TIME and space to think and slowly break the chains
As a woman whos deconstructing, its because you are taught from the start that you are absolute scum and ANY kindness is a mercy you dont deserve and should be grateful for. You are also saddled with the responsability of everyone elses happiness.
They one two punch you with a. Indoctrinating you not to think and then b. Ensuring you dont have time to think.
Ill use ONE example. At around 10 years old my private christian school began their s 3 x ed (ill abbreviate it as $ for youtubes sensitivities). They didnt teach the mechanics of $, but everything around it. Here was the list i remember, and keep in mind these were blatant points or straight up quotes
The two most important factors in choosing a husband was a. He needed to be a church going christian and b. He needed to be rich. In fact they asked us girls to make a list of what we wanted, and up on the board we'd compiled things like humor, kindness, good at listening, liked the same shows or animals or hobbies as us (child speak for common interest), and were told that our list lacked the MOST IMPORTANT part, money
Once you had $ 3 x you were no longer pure, which is why you only did it with one man in your life, so that you werent brought too low or ruined too much, and also so the man didn't have to settle for used goods
$ outside marriage was unforgivable, and while you could make it to heaven you shouldnt get married after, should handle any children alone, and could no longer live gods true purpose for your life in full
Also $ drive was "male only", you shouldnt think about or look forwards to $ EVEN AFTER MARRIAGE because (quote) "its impure desire, $ is for your husband and making christian babies. Your husband will want it enough for the both of you, and will tell you when its time to do it anyways."
Don't even think about it, that's BAD for you.
If your husband isnt converted and saved its your fault for picking badly, abd now that your stuck with him its your fault that your example doesnt lead him to god, and its your fault you arent praying hard enough
If your kids arent saved or fall away its also your fault for not picking a husband that enforced religion properly and also the prayer thing
If you end up divorced the man clearly only left because you werent fulfilling all his needs, and if its an abuse case its your fault for picking poorly, or for provoking him to anger by not being godly enough
On top of this church often becomes the ONLY place a woman can ever socialize due to a. Time if shes a house wife or b. The only place shes ALLOWED to socialize in a "safe/acceptable" way if she works, because she either has to proselytize her coworkers into avoidance or not engage with the worldly
This is a tiny slice, it was this level of bs with everything. Dont be a leader, thats for men. Always look to a man (father, pastor, husband, even brother) for directions and money. Have babies. Stay home.
R@pe is your fault because you were wearing something or leading someone on
Illness is your fault for not praying enough--including others illnesses
If a woman is sacrificed/sold by a man that's his RIGHT, if God told him to do it
If kidnapped women were made wives then they clearly consented, and it's better to be a wife than not so it's a net positive in the end anyways
If they were made slaves--well, they didn't pray enough
Sin in general is your fault because eve was a woman, which is why you are second class. On and on
Every question i ever asked as a kid was shut down, called doubt and treated as sin, or brushed off with "christians dont think about negative things, only gods light".
Dont think. Dont think. Dont think. Dont ask questions
Mind you THESE WERE NOT FUNDAMENTALISTS. They all lived their very modern and hypocritical lives. And STILL all this was taught and left us children in horribly confusion
Out of the 30 some girls i was grouped with, i and 1 other were the only ones NOT married by 19. And at 26 now, im still the only one single and without kids.
I dont know if i would have made it this far intellectually under a christian husband, dealing with 2-5 children, still in a church circuit at least once a week--more, because women also dud all the volunteer work, events, fundraisers etc. I ended up in a public highschool that gave me some perspective, then got a job and lived at home which, while still dealing with an abusive christian father, gave me TIME and space to think and slowly break the chains
As a woman whos deconstructing, its because you are taught from the start that you are absolute scum and ANY kindness is a mercy you dont deserve and should be grateful for. You are also saddled with the responsability of everyone elses happiness.
They one two punch you with a. Indoctrinating you not to think and then b. Ensuring you dont have time to think.
Ill use ONE example. At around 10 years old my private christian school began their s 3 x ed (ill abbreviate it as $ for youtubes sensitivities). They didnt teach the mechanics of $, but everything around it. Here was the list i remember, and keep in mind these were blatant points or straight up quotes
The two most important factors in choosing a husband was a. He needed to be a church going christian and b. He needed to be rich. In fact they asked us girls to make a list of what we wanted, and up on the board we'd compiled things like humor, kindness, good at listening, liked the same shows or animals or hobbies as us (child speak for common interest), and were told that our list lacked the MOST IMPORTANT part, money
Once you had $ 3 x you were no longer pure, which is why you only did it with one man in your life, so that you werent brought too low or ruined too much, and also so the man didn't have to settle for used goods
$ outside marriage was unforgivable, and while you could make it to heaven you shouldnt get married after, should handle any children alone, and could no longer live gods true purpose for your life in full
Also $ drive was "male only", you shouldnt think about or look forwards to $ EVEN AFTER MARRIAGE because (quote) "its impure desire, $ is for your husband and making christian babies. Your husband will want it enough for the both of you, and will tell you when its time to do it anyways."
Don't even think about it, that's BAD for you.
If your husband isnt converted and saved its your fault for picking badly, abd now that your stuck with him its your fault that your example doesnt lead him to god, and its your fault you arent praying hard enough
If your kids arent saved or fall away its also your fault for not picking a husband that enforced religion properly and also the prayer thing
If you end up divorced the man clearly only left because you werent fulfilling all his needs, and if its an abuse case its your fault for picking poorly, or for provoking him to anger by not being godly enough
On top of this church often becomes the ONLY place a woman can ever socialize due to a. Time if shes a house wife or b. The only place shes ALLOWED to socialize in a "safe/acceptable" way if she works, because she either has to proselytize her coworkers into avoidance or not engage with the worldly
This is a tiny slice, it was this level of bs with everything. Dont be a leader, thats for men. Always look to a man (father, pastor, husband, even brother) for directions and money. Have babies. Stay home.
R@pe is your fault because you were wearing something or leading someone on
Illness is your fault for not praying enough--including others illnesses
If a woman is sacrificed/sold by a man that's his RIGHT, if God told him to do it
If kidnapped women were made wives then they clearly consented, and it's better to be a wife than not so it's a net positive in the end anyways
If they were made slaves--well, they didn't pray enough
Sin in general is your fault because eve was a woman, which is why you are second class. On and on
Every question i ever asked as a kid was shut down, called doubt and treated as sin, or brushed off with "christians dont think about negative things, only gods light".
Dont think. Dont think. Dont think. Dont ask questions
Mind you THESE WERE NOT FUNDAMENTALISTS. They all lived their very modern and hypocritical lives. And STILL all this was taught and left us children in horribly confusion
Out of the 30 some girls i was grouped with, i and 1 other were the only ones NOT married by 19. And at 26 now, im still the only one single and without kids.
I dont know if i would have made it this far intellectually under a christian husband, dealing with 2-5 children, still in a church circuit at least once a week--more, because women also dud all the volunteer work, events, fundraisers etc. I ended up in a public highschool that gave me some perspective, then got a job and lived at home which, while still dealing with an abusive christian father, gave me TIME and space to think and slowly break the chains
Looking forward to this one! What a weird and wicked book
two perfect words for it!
Doesn't this books' theme of "We need a King!" directly clash with Samuel's "Kings are bad for you!" that both God and Samuel hold? That's probably proof enough that these are written by different people with differing agendas...
Jethro made a deal to kill his daughter and then blames his daughter when he sees her. Typical misogyny.
Indeed. I found that just so very stupid
This book I think is often overlooked except for the story of Gideon (they never talk about the latter part of the story) and I'm glad that you've highlighted a lot of the problems showing us a very inconsistent god.
The more I listen to these, the more I realize god is humanity out up on a pedestal all in its own brain.
Thank you for these secular bible studies!
I really hope you keep these up Brandon they’re fantastic. My only complaint is that I try to document and go off and re-search after your videos and you give so much great material I’m falling behind lol.
as a kid I always heard the explanation that jephthah expected a lamb or baby goat to come out of the house first to greet him. even so, if you have an all knowing deity part of the story no explanation makes any sense.
Imagine how different the world would be if this supposedly good God gave unoccupied land as a reward to his people instead of land with people already on it that the Israelites were instructed not to mix with and to slaughter.
Right! Proof the story is just evil
Well, at least Jephta let his daughter have a last vacation in the mountain for a month before getting sacrificed ^^
More seriously, nice bible study as always. I know I'm preaching to the choir here (no pun intended), but using the fact the Benjamites did not have a king when they kidnapped women to resume their fruitfulness and multiplication as a justification for their actions seems odd, considering they are still the chosen people of an all powerful god that could, and should replace the missing king, or use his divine powers to make sure a king is always appointed when needed.
Yes two months to mourn her virginity lol. What a wild thing. And yes its a silly excuse at best. Thanks for watching!
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I love your channel Brandon.❤❤❤❤ i love your perspective on the bible.
Thank you so much! what a wonderful comment to start my morning.
Jephtha was hopeing for his mother in law to greet him q:
Ha. He should have been more specific with the terms.
Or his wife. Maybe he was hoping to trade her in for a newer model, what with all the kidnapping of virgins going on.
You should consider making your videos available in podcast format. I wanna listen to it while I’m walking to the train, but it’s tricky having to keep the screen up
I have every intention to. Thanks for the encouragement. I just feel so behind in doing it. Need to get it sorted.
I'm continuing to love this series! Keep up the great work! One thing I don't totally agree with is your "how can they be this stupid" criticism. To me this is a powerful biblical theme and commentary on the human condition - we're doomed to make the same mistakes over and over again.
Thank you very much and i totally understand your critique and in a metaphorical way it makes great sense. I am talking more in the hypothetical that if this were true, if these people could look over and see god in his tabernacle as a pillar of fire and just got done seeing their buddy smited for picking up sticks on the sabbath, one might think it hard to even conceive of building a golden idol.
@@MindShift-Brandon Totally. I'm a former Christian, still interested in finding some meaning in the Biblical narrative so I'm all for metaphorical truth!
@@chadtyrone I see this as a literary choice - the writer putting in the worst thing they can think of to make the point "look how bad things got"
these are god' people. he made them that way, he knows what they are going to do, and he knows how he is going to punish them. God loves them - to death
Damn! I love how you go off at the end of each of these videos. Well done!
Ha! thank you. It just all gets to me during the problem verses.
I often think about this notion of competing gods. It is common for Christians to claim that there is only ONE god. But the problem, of course, is that if there is only one god, everything is his fault. So, what do you do? You create Satan. An adversary as or more powerful (just look around) and blame him/it. What is obvious is that the OT clearly demonstrates that Yahweh has complete control so that he is the one sending these evil spirits, obstacles. It is all confusing and sinister how believers try to weave a web of explanations to justify the absurdity of it all.
Absurdity at its most insane! An honest reading of the bible is just beyond telling
Sociologically, speaking as societies, develop through stages from tribal to urbanized state societies with state religions they go through a period when charismatic judges emerge, and provide order of sorts to that burgeoning society. What we see here is the Jewish society going through what is a typical transition phase from more primitive to less primitive so to speak
I fully support a bible story series to get into the nitty gritty details of this book and why it really shouldn't be a guide for anyone living in any time period.
Another fantastic show Brandon thanks again
Always my pleasure. Thank you!
I'm gonna have to re-watch this ❤
Truly horrific! You totally brought me there & I felt like sobbing for those victims of god's great love. Then I realized it's BS! Still sad for apologists tho. I would love for you to make a bible story (BS) series too.
Yes. I often have to remind myself this wasnt real but like you said, so sad for the believer who thinks it is and tries to justify it!
Preach it!!!!
Judges 19 through 21 was when I finally quit Christianity. It was so disgusting.
I know you uploaded this 1 year ago, but I've just discovered your channel. I've been kind of binge listening to these secular bible study videos and I greatly appreciate them. You're really doing a great job here!
Btw the Philistines weren't actual Canaanites. Both archeological as well as genetic studies seem to show that they were an amalgamation of different peoples, mostly of Greek origin, who settled in the Levant during the Bronze Age Collapse. They likely intermarried with local Canaanites though.
Theres a scripture somewhere (i cant remember where) that says something along the lines of "God is no respecter of persons", which is commonly interpreted as "God doesnt pick favorites". But time and time again, we see God picking favorites everywhere in the scriptures and making exceptions. The WHOLE BIBLE is a story of God picking a favorite people regaurdless of them following him or sinning grossly against him. That confuses the HECK out of me!
Lmao 😂fr tho
"Inhabitants of Israel. This is Judge Dredd. In case you people have forgotten, these tribes operate under the same rules as the rest the land. Yahweh is not the law. I am the law. Yahweh is a common criminal, guilty of murder, guilty of the mass slaughter of women and children as well as the razing of entire areas of all life, and as of now, under sentence of death. Any who obstruct me from carrying out my duty will be treated as an accessory to his crimes. You have been warned. And as for you, Yahweh, _judgment time."_
- Judge Dredd, I wish
Seriously, a Book of Judges without that as a passage is no Book of Judges.
Lol. Appreciate the levity this this heavy mess.
@@MindShift-Brandon It was something I learned long ago: you have to be able to laugh at and even mock anything as horrifying as Judges, and if someone dislikes or even hates you for it, then you should continue doing so, for them defending what is portrayed for any reason other than art shows their own morality to be questionable at best.
It is not an easy lesson by any stretch to learn, especially not from growing up in an environment that praises stuff like Judges, and it is even more difficult to put it into practice, but it has ended up serving me well once it set in, at least in distancing me from the absolute worst people.
You think this is bad? Wait till God gets mad at Saul for saving animals even tho he killed all the men, women, children, and babies. 1-2 Samuel doesn't get any better.
Right! Having a king didnt help at all!
@MindShiftSkeptic And ontop of that when they do ask for a king God's like "ahh they've rejected me as a king" when having him as a "king" thus far hasn't been working. So it's not really clear what the authors are trying to get at here.
The whole conversion of Saul to Paul is something else. At first god condoned animal sacrifices back in Leviticus lmao.
Hello wonderful people from San Antonio! I appreciate all of you and your comments. Is there a particular program that addresses the following? “Why would God include satan in his creation knowing full well all the crap the dude would end up doing?” If anybody wants to hang here in SA let me know.😊
Great video! This is the Bible study I want. Can't wait to go through the Bible through new lens.
Welcome! Excited to have you here for the series!
I'm a US Army Gulf War veteran, so I guess the Invisible Sky Wizard would not be able to handle M1 Abram tanks as well.
It's still happening now. The book of Netanyahu is being written right before our eyes.
Something else to consider about the 400 virgins that were given to the tribe of Benjamin as well as the ones that were kidnapped later--these were probably very young girls, as in underage, maybe even prepubertal. Any woman past the age of 13 was most likely married and hence not a virgin. The Bible has many stories of married women who desperately prayed for a child, but I do not know of any never-married Biblical women who begged God to give them a husband. Yet there are plenty of Christian women who have prayed and waited in vain for years, even decades, for God to send them a husband. The problem with insisting on abstinence before marriage is that we no longer live in a society where marriages were arranged at puberty or shortly thereafter, at least for daughters. So there was no abstaining for years or even decades. There was no going out and looking for Mr. Right. Your parents picked for you, as is still done in some societies today.
Yes great points
excellent overview
Thank you much!
Excellent video thank you so much for sharing and spreading knowledge😊
My pleasure. Thank you for being here!
I've always found it rather strange that the dominant interpretation of Judges is that if they'd just had a king, things would've been better. If that's the message of Judges, then Judges contradicts 1 Samuel 8:6-18, where the people demand Samuel gives them a king and God himself says that in asking for a human king, they've rejected God as their king. Samuel then goes on to tell them just how awful kings are.
The way I saw it when I was a Christian is that those verses in Judges were saying that the people had a king (God), but were ignoring him. It also seems to me the people were more responsive to God under the judges than they were under the kings. Under the judges, they always eventually got their act together and went back to following God whereas under the kings they just did what the king told them and didn't worry about what God wanted. There were 4 or 5 kings in Judah who followed God with all their heart, and NONE in Israel (the north), so if that's what Judges was saying, then Judges is just plain wrong.
Preach! 100%
Excellent video!
Thank you much!
I've had a real problem with the genocide and all the rest. Just plain evil.
Simply inexcusable
It’s absolutely horrible. It’s like almost every book has a genocide or something.
First, “Yes!” To Secular Bible Stories! Also, as I’m listening to everything in this video, I’m disgusted at the way todays Christian’s are like the ones described in the Bible. For example, the idolization that is NOT supposed to happen. The lessons are right there yet today so many Christian’s idolize their pastor, their priest, their church buildings, their symbols such as crosses and crucifixes. Even people. So many literally worship Trump. Calling him their savior, the anointed one, the second coming, etc. While I believe it’s because their religion is in its death throes & they’re desperate because they don’t want to be “the minority” (how ironic), it’s still disgusting to watch. I’m loving this series. It’s got to be so much work and I appreciate it so much!!
Wonderful insights, Lori! Glad you’re finding these episodes so useful. Thank you!
Isn't it odd Jepthah made a deal with God that he would sacrifice as a burnt offering the first thing that came out to greet him after victory. And God with foreknowledge knew that it would be his daughter who will be the first one to greet Jepthah. God could have easily avoided this human sacrifice by maybe hinting that a chicken or a goat would be a better choice.
The unambiguously fictional nature of this god would explain why I have never had any contact with it. These stories are just fictions, and a fictional character cannot defeat chariots of iron.
When I was a little boy I thought the Bible was a fairytale and Boring. You are Very interesting! Thanks 🙏.
Thanks for watching!
Even though we have the whole "muh freedoms" stereotype here in the USA, but historical literature like Judges makes me feel that we don't appreciate our freedom enough. We're far better off with flawed bureaucracy than with strongmen rulers like the judges. I recognize that modern dictators have been equally cruel, but on an industrial scale. So let's not tolerate either of them, shall we?
Couldn't agree more. Both are great points!
The Israelites in general were a bit slow to learn, but how about Samsom, he was pretty dense in the head. Come on, Delilah betrays you twice yet you still believe her a third time?
Even when I was a believer, when I was 8 years old, I found that hard to swallow.
Ha me too now that i think back on it.
I've definitely known guys like that.
When in Canaan, do as the Canaanites do! If only certain monotheistic cultures would get that hint! Then again, maybe stuff like this explains why they don't, to the detriment of world civilization.
The book of Judges is one of my favorite books
Hows that?
A burning sacrifice too (like Abraham)! Jehovah's Witnesses claim she went to the church...
So much low hanging fruit. Admire that you could stay focused.
Judges is unintentional comedy and heavy irony. That is about the most positive view I can take from it.
Maybe the most worthwhile bit is Jothams’s speech against monarchy. (Judges 9:7-end). Can direct it toward any politician.
Comedy gold: (Judges 12:5-6) ‘Quick, say Shibboleth’. ‘Sibboleth’. ‘Die’. 42,000 Ephraimites killed by Gileadites along the fords of the Jordan, betrayed by speech impediment. That bit concludes the Jephthah saga.
lol, yes too much to even handle! Hopefully, if i start the bible story series, i can get to each of these insane accounts. Thanks for watching.
[In Judges, though, the tale of Jephthah, who led the Israelites against the Ammonoites, is being told. Being fearful of defeat, this good religious man sought to guarantee victory by getting god firmly on his side. So he prayed to god] “… If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands, Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD’s, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering” - Judges 11:30-31
[The terms were acceptable to god - remember, he is supposed to be omniscient and know the future - so he gave victory to Jephthah, and the first whatsoever that greeted him upon his glorious return was his daughter, as god surely knew would happen, if god is god. True to his vow, the general made a human sacrifice of his only child to god!] - Judges 11:29-34
I’m so glad you touched up on this and the bull 💩 mental gymnastics believers try pulling! This truly pisses me off how some many people dance around this section.
Thanks for this. It really is insane isnt it?
@@MindShift-Brandon I was already a non believer at this point, but it was just another nail in the coffin coming across this.
I love the bizarre idea in the early biblical books that the ancient Hebrews have the memory of a goldfish. People see something amazing from Yahweh and 5 minutes later they're making a calf to worship. And nobody learns anything so its a very long running black comedy of Yahweh and his chosen people making stupid decisions over and over again and a lot of people suffer.
Brandon, you're badass.
Ha! Thanks so much