Because he's on the plane that benefits him... Which means any other plane is also not good so why waste the effort in changing instead of doing constructive with his turn
@@famousstranger8468 they have side decks with planes that benefit their own decks. Any other plane they go to, could be beneficial. By the time the plane is likely to benefit him, the others will have tried to planeswalk away anyway.
Drives me nuts that after 13 minutes and three turns we still haven’t gotten a deck tech for Stephen. Begging ya’ll to bring back the deck techs at the top and stop doing them in the middle of things
I was waiting for Jon to have a Swords in hand. "Wait, you attacked him? I get a token!" *Swords* "Neigh. I say NEIGH, good sir. Be gone with your horse."
As someone who doesn't normally wear headphones, I never realised how annoying the music is. With the amount of complaints it's gotten, why is it even still in the episodes? On another note, the interactions this game were much better than last season (in my opinion), so I'm hoping this keeps up! Great to see the new decks, too.
Lol at that pointless swords on Green's Commander, Corey has seemingly zero board awareness most games, with Jeremy for like 2 turns saying "I'm going to attack Corey".
for the record.. i was curious too about the move John did at roughly 18:30.. responding to a plane change. so i looked it up. when you roll the planar die, rolling plane change, or chaos triggers the effect on the card, and that trigger is stack governed.. in other words. what he did was 100% legal
Jeremys wurm only triggers when the counters are put on 'another' creature, no? EDIT: never mind! I now realize that the text of the card is still... on the card. :)
I love all the planechase y'all played in the past. Just like you had partners and Planeswalkers as commanders ahead of the curve in the past, you brought planechase into commander first as well!
path of the schemer at 30.34m, you see Stephen say nothing about his Knight Syr Elenore, know he probably wouldnt want it but didnt even show as a option for Corey
Really interesting how Planechase affected the game. I'd love to see the decks functioning without those, but I guess every precon gameplay will also include them.
yo mr editor, it's not Sidar, Jabari of Zhalfir. There's no comma there. His name is Jabari and he's a Sidar from Zhalfir. edit: Jeremy's pronounciation of Megaflore Jungle was funny af. And it's Kasla, not Kaalia.
Begging Corey to please slow down and read the cards. It's a consistent thing every week where he just rushes through cards without reading them and then has to be corrected. So annoying to watch.
58:15 but if Steven save Cory would of he have hit every one for like 10 plus damage because of Cory killing everything with Sir Comrade I think Cory would die from it
I'll be the guy who Corey is mentioning at the end of the video. ERRRRRAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH *knuckles cracking Sometimes ya'll miss triggers, it's fine. Sometimes Corey makes a face that looks super punchable, but he seems like a good friend and a cool dude. I got to fist bump Jon and Steven in Vega; you guys are awesome! Keep making great content! The only thing that I would like to see is the same thing that I suggest to everyone.. COLLABORATION Lets get a list of my top guests who I would personally like to see: Posty, Reid, LSV, Josh from Playing with Power, BlackNeato, MTGNerdGirl, Melissa DeToro, any of the recurring people from I Hate Your Deck. Ya'll could use spelltable and some editing to drop any of them into a video. We are stronger together Much Love!!!!!
Correct. You can't make decisions until after the die has been rolled. But once the die is rolled, you can respond to any relevant triggers as a result of the die roll. Rolling the Planar Die is a special action that can't be responded to unless it's the result of something like Fractured Powerstone.
I know Jon is not talking mess about the Texas Rangers! Boy, I ought to come down there and teach you why they say, "Don't mess..." what? He meant the baseball team? That Texas Rangers have a baseball team? Not affiliated? When no wonder the suck! Never mind, Mr. Suarez, continue being awesome!
4 points for first place, 3 for second, 2 for third, 1 for fourth, -1 for a search that takes longer than 40s and additional -1 for every 30 in that same search, -1 for killing the person in last place in points before anyone else is knocked out unless there's a tie for last place, -1 for never casting your commander, 1 for casting your commander from the command zone 4 times, 1 for directly preventing a player's death other than your own. Think that's it. Didn't look it up.
A rule we play while playing planechase is there's no responding to the planar abilities and you must roll atleast once each turn and last one is if the planes says destroy all creature it does so regardless if they are indestructible or not. Basicly whatever it says you do and it happends.
Wow I can't get over how immature and childish Corey is. When he shoved cards in both Stephen and John's face, or when Stephen tries to read one of his cards he knocks it out of his hand. Seriously why is he still on this show?
I mean if this is the level of childish that most mtg players got up to, that would be great. Instead, too many yell and scream and storm off if this don't go their way. And Corey is merely reacting in kind to Steven's childish, "Um, actually, we get to see all of those cards!" So yeah, Jon didn't deserve that, but Steven did.
@@ShroudedBlade yeah ngl I don't like my LGS so much anymore after playing with 2 cry babies and 2 guys who choose to play a power level way above the table (not at the same table). Had 0 fun in those games.
Its almost like other friend groups that are comfortable with things you and your friend group arent, exist in the world. Its pretty clear you've put far more thought into the interaction than both stephen or jonathan did. Let friends be friends.
Why is Stephen Green playing? He looks like he hates been there playing commander with the folks. Please don't take him again, is painful just to watch how he yawn at every moment
wotc is ruining this... I like listening to commander games because I know so many of the cards by heart and can follow through by listening but all these new cards being pumped out by the buttload makes it so hard to follow... also commanders see the graveyard even if they go to the commandzone so the Syr conrad shouldve triggered 😅
@@kingfuzzy2 you are right. We should play football with a variation of rules where after every down they get plus or minus yards or extra players at random. That's fun right?
@@davidbain7629 the universe is too full of order to have chaos without tremendous difficulty even in a game of infinite variation like magic the gathering. But to each their own especially the masochists.
I love how Jeremy gets a tremendous hit and immediately misplays the back up by targeting the wurm instead of his sliver with the counters. Good to see that his game iq hasn't changed since the beginning
I like how Jon IMMEDIATELY tries to planeswalk away from the plane that's trying to do what his deck wants to do.
Admittedly, he says "it's not good right now". This makes sense, why not try for a plane that would ramp or be better for set up early game instead?
You have a free roll so why not go for it. He just got very unlucky
Because he's on the plane that benefits him...
Which means any other plane is also not good so why waste the effort in changing instead of doing constructive with his turn
@@famousstranger8468 they have side decks with planes that benefit their own decks. Any other plane they go to, could be beneficial. By the time the plane is likely to benefit him, the others will have tried to planeswalk away anyway.
I love how Stephen just never loots with his commander in the command zone XD
He likely forgot it was just a trigger that happens even when they are in the command zone
That absolutely needs to be a shirt.
New season, same spite.
Awesome.
Insert RedFernGrows meme of their three heads on Phyrexian Rager chasing Corey with his little ranger's bow and arrow. Lol
I came to see what Brimaz is like pn board, and didnt even get to see he played
Drives me nuts that after 13 minutes and three turns we still haven’t gotten a deck tech for Stephen. Begging ya’ll to bring back the deck techs at the top and stop doing them in the middle of things
Definately miss the old deck techs.
100%
I really dislike when gameplay is interrupted, it's the reason why I never watch Game Nights, and it sucks they've gone this route.
love the precon episodes, always feels balanced and fun to watch as a viewer!
and the editing has been fantastic lately, keep the good work up editor
Gremlin tokens count themselves for Gimbal
Wow! The editing of this game is top notch. Kudos to your video editors. Stay inspired!
First precon game of the new set!! Let’s go!
*looks forward to seeing the jeskai precon get played
Of course the Jeskai one gets left out
Sadly it's the weakest of the 5
@@zacharyfunkhouser4015 is that the general consensus from the community?
I'd be curious of that claim as well as that's the one that's interested me the most!
@@Smaul002 Since convoke isn't a very well supported mechanic (yet) there are pretty bad cards in the procon like Conclave Equinaut.
It’s the only deck I was interested in, and they left it out
Count me is as pro-Planechase (a.k.a.) pro-fun. So hyped for this episode.
I was waiting for Jon to have a Swords in hand. "Wait, you attacked him? I get a token!"
*Swords*
"Neigh. I say NEIGH, good sir. Be gone with your horse."
As someone who doesn't normally wear headphones, I never realised how annoying the music is. With the amount of complaints it's gotten, why is it even still in the episodes?
On another note, the interactions this game were much better than last season (in my opinion), so I'm hoping this keeps up! Great to see the new decks, too.
"new season, same spite" - Steven Green guarantee
Linking to the planeschase rules woulda been a great addition to the links.
29:53 I appreciate Stephen still fighting the good fight against the world's pen beavers.
Lol at that pointless swords on Green's Commander, Corey has seemingly zero board awareness most games, with Jeremy for like 2 turns saying "I'm going to attack Corey".
The 2 decks I'm looking forward to playing is the knights and the temur deck with the commander switched to Rashmi and Ragavan
I’m the same. I also want the back up one. The other two precons I’d like at a steep discount haha
I appreciate the camera work on following the die as it's rolled. Good Stuff!
Always love the watching commander vs, but I miss when they used to have people submit memes that they would show off at the beginning of the episode
Excellent, as always. Thank you.
That was a pretty good judge, dread
I just love this channel the most. The chemistry you all have is great.
@28:00 literally takes Corey appox 6 minutes to resolve 1 spell. Cmon man
for the record.. i was curious too about the move John did at roughly 18:30.. responding to a plane change. so i looked it up. when you roll the planar die, rolling plane change, or chaos triggers the effect on the card, and that trigger is stack governed.. in other words. what he did was 100% legal
Jeremy with the Jem and the Holograms reference!! I love that show so much!! It's so good. Got done dirty by the movie.
Corey's misplay with Gearhulk and Swords to Plowshares were SOOOOOOOO painful to watch. Just dub him Misplay Maniac.
Not going to lie, was confused and shocked in why Jeremy was in that seating position 😜. (I’m team Jeremy)
Corey needs to be replaced with someone who is more familiar with playing MTG.
Jeremys wurm only triggers when the counters are put on 'another' creature, no?
EDIT: never mind! I now realize that the text of the card is still... on the card. :)
I’m excited for the divine convocation deck
Corey "I'm not a problem." He's been a problem since day one. If only he didn't waste another removal spell
AHHH Hamiliton shirt!!!! I love it!
New season same spite lol 😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉
Corey snatching those cards and bending them up made me shudder lol
I love all the planechase y'all played in the past.
Just like you had partners and Planeswalkers as commanders ahead of the curve in the past, you brought planechase into commander first as well!
Corey looks like he played a couple rounds of golf under the Florida sun.
path of the schemer at 30.34m, you see Stephen say nothing about his Knight Syr Elenore, know he probably wouldnt want it but didnt even show as a option for Corey
I wish you guys would go back to doing the deck techs before the game. Especially when you are playing with brand new commanders.
Shouldnt commander dmg be display on the player having the commander dmg ?
The Green Ranger rules. RIP JDF
Really interesting how Planechase affected the game. I'd love to see the decks functioning without those, but I guess every precon gameplay will also include them.
why is Corey not playing his commander? :/
Stephen needs more coconut shells.
I just wanted to see the convoke deck
Me too thanks but at least we got to see a snippet of the other cool deck gremlin tribal
Truely, Truely, TRUELY Outrageous? He doesn't look like JEM OR a Hologram to me.
Does Jon know the Gremlin token counts itself, otherwise the commander would be pretty bad ...
Soooo.....idk about anybody else but imma grab that Knights Deck unblockable creatures is definitely vibing for me
Corey does make a good heel
When John makes his first gremlin token I’m pretty sure it’s supposed to be a 3/3
Come to Boston, MA
Hey corey ha e you heard a thing called your commander. You try casting it.
yo mr editor, it's not Sidar, Jabari of Zhalfir. There's no comma there. His name is Jabari and he's a Sidar from Zhalfir.
edit: Jeremy's pronounciation of Megaflore Jungle was funny af. And it's Kasla, not Kaalia.
Stephen - least petty edh player
Hoping for cromat and related low-powered throwbacks
The gremlin token counts itself as a unique token. Should have gotten 3 counters
I thought Myriad Landscape enters tapped
love the new season! Last two episodes were much better than the king make Jon episodes of the previous season. Love you guys!
Begging Corey to please slow down and read the cards. It's a consistent thing every week where he just rushes through cards without reading them and then has to be corrected. So annoying to watch.
I wonder if Jon plays with the artifact deOH WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT
He did it hoping it was gremlin tribal but was almost okay with artifact/ token deck
No one puts mom's baby in the corner lol
Be careful when you talk about "Fun With the Worm"
My first thought was Kirby calling the police
How does the comment section feel about these precons ? Order all of them, and this game was fun to watch.
58:15 but if Steven save Cory would of he have hit every one for like 10 plus damage because of Cory killing everything with Sir Comrade I think Cory would die from it
I'll be the guy who Corey is mentioning at the end of the video.
ERRRRRAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH *knuckles cracking
Sometimes ya'll miss triggers, it's fine.
Sometimes Corey makes a face that looks super punchable, but he seems like a good friend and a cool dude.
I got to fist bump Jon and Steven in Vega; you guys are awesome!
Keep making great content! The only thing that I would like to see is the same thing that I suggest to everyone.. COLLABORATION
Lets get a list of my top guests who I would personally like to see: Posty, Reid, LSV, Josh from Playing with Power, BlackNeato, MTGNerdGirl, Melissa DeToro, any of the recurring people from I Hate Your Deck. Ya'll could use spelltable and some editing to drop any of them into a video.
We are stronger together
Much Love!!!!!
I was really hoping to see the new brimaz do something maybe there can be like around to where you upgrade
I feel bad for the director having to edit all the off camera dice rolls lol
Brizmaz in saskia edh deck?
Jeremy mentioned a new Kaalia? What's he talking about?
A fun little change up. Good job dudes.
I gotta call you guys out.
How do y’all *not* have a SitCom-style intro?
Like this? th-cam.com/video/xcv5BZQSFBo/w-d-xo.html
Anyone know the ruling on responding to planchasing? I believe rolling the dice is part of the abilities resolution (like most coin flips).
Correct. You can't make decisions until after the die has been rolled. But once the die is rolled, you can respond to any relevant triggers as a result of the die roll. Rolling the Planar Die is a special action that can't be responded to unless it's the result of something like Fractured Powerstone.
cory plays like he's new to the game more than 50% of the time lol poor threat assessment my guy
Was thinking the same + not casting his commander once while playing kinda phyrexian tribal with artifacts and he misscounted them for zyst🙈
I know Jon is not talking mess about the Texas Rangers! Boy, I ought to come down there and teach you why they say, "Don't mess..." what? He meant the baseball team? That Texas Rangers have a baseball team? Not affiliated? When no wonder the suck! Never mind, Mr. Suarez, continue being awesome!
Can you bring SCGCON to Australia Melbourne please 😂
Horse gap
Corey wtf thopter really
Going to get one of these and dismantle it for cards. Usually I’d buy singles, but it’s cheaper to get the deck than the singles.
What points system do they use?
4 points for first place, 3 for second, 2 for third, 1 for fourth, -1 for a search that takes longer than 40s and additional -1 for every 30 in that same search, -1 for killing the person in last place in points before anyone else is knocked out unless there's a tie for last place, -1 for never casting your commander, 1 for casting your commander from the command zone 4 times, 1 for directly preventing a player's death other than your own. Think that's it. Didn't look it up.
Esper Knights is really cool! The other designs don’t seem even remotely as cool.
A rule we play while playing planechase is there's no responding to the planar abilities and you must roll atleast once each turn and last one is if the planes says destroy all creature it does so regardless if they are indestructible or not. Basicly whatever it says you do and it happends.
what an dumb made up rule giving it splitsecond.
@@keithfilibeck2390 it's better than that you can't even make special actions such as float mana.
No it's not better because those are not the rules
@Famous Stranger not the rules but it's better and more fun.
@@patrice2847 fun for who? 4 people that don't know how to play the game?
When do these come out? 21st right?
Friday I believe so the 14th
@@tigerzombie the official release for the precons is the 21st. The pre release is the 14th and some store will be dispensing the pre orders.
@@trizkit995 thanks that's good to know
Wow I can't get over how immature and childish Corey is. When he shoved cards in both Stephen and John's face, or when Stephen tries to read one of his cards he knocks it out of his hand. Seriously why is he still on this show?
It's called playing around and having fun. I vibe with Corey as do a lot of other people
I mean if this is the level of childish that most mtg players got up to, that would be great. Instead, too many yell and scream and storm off if this don't go their way. And Corey is merely reacting in kind to Steven's childish, "Um, actually, we get to see all of those cards!" So yeah, Jon didn't deserve that, but Steven did.
@@ShroudedBlade yeah ngl I don't like my LGS so much anymore after playing with 2 cry babies and 2 guys who choose to play a power level way above the table (not at the same table). Had 0 fun in those games.
@@ShroudedBlade Still not a reason to shove something in someone's face, and if you don't see that you might be part of the problem.
Its almost like other friend groups that are comfortable with things you and your friend group arent, exist in the world. Its pretty clear you've put far more thought into the interaction than both stephen or jonathan did. Let friends be friends.
Why is Stephen Green playing?
He looks like he hates been there playing commander with the folks. Please don't take him again, is painful just to watch how he yawn at every moment
Not a big fan of the planeswalking mechanic tbh
2mins into the game and planechase already did more actions than the player in turn, I hate it
wotc is ruining this... I like listening to commander games because I know so many of the cards by heart and can follow through by listening but all these new cards being pumped out by the buttload makes it so hard to follow... also commanders see the graveyard even if they go to the commandzone so the Syr conrad shouldve triggered 😅
Yeah they missed more than half of the Konrad triggers which isn't that surprising without Justin who played him the most
This is some of the worst music you have ever added. Please stop. It's very distuptive.
12 seconds in and already sad, Corey is still here.
I really dislike the planechase play sorry…
Yay precons. Boo planechase. It was a failed mini game before and failed now.
Someone has never have fun before. My condolences
@@kingfuzzy2 you are right. We should play football with a variation of rules where after every down they get plus or minus yards or extra players at random. That's fun right?
@@davidbain7629 the universe is too full of order to have chaos without tremendous difficulty even in a game of infinite variation like magic the gathering. But to each their own especially the masochists.
I love how Jeremy gets a tremendous hit and immediately misplays the back up by targeting the wurm instead of his sliver with the counters. Good to see that his game iq hasn't changed since the beginning
Confused as to why jon would suffer through trying to make blocks work, then reality shift syr conrad instead of the managorger 🫤