i think the taunt ability has always been underrated, but now getting that +10% with a 50% uptime is just nice, easily can get higher pdr, i'd love to see you try.
It's actually insane bro I ran a kit like his but with less hp and taunt/ sprint the other day and I'd have 2 people trying to kill me while my buddies slapped them in the back. It turns you into a juggernaut 😂
@Dirtyfrank-p3y oh, it isn't quite that drastic, maybe another 10% 15 maybe if you got max rolls on everything but kind of pointless with barricade and taunt. You don't even need additional ar with taunt tbh
I might be bit biased but increasing the pdr cap to 75% again is crazy, at capped pdr you have 4x EHp compared to base hp and you can negate the MS penalty with swift and momenteraly with sprint to catch people. Imo they should have dropped the pdr cap to 65% with the perk and with out perk to 55%, at 55% you still mitigate half of the raw physical damage. There still is true damage but it's the same on 55% 65% or 75%, just remove true and up the armor pen rolls, would be crazy to build 100% armor pen build :D although thats too much, currently armor pen feels useless since you can just stack true and be better. What is the max possible armor pen that you can build now with out any skills or perks?
Doesn't even matter because armor pen adds one by one, so if you stack armor pen, it gets diminishing returns for each "thing" that has armor pen, let's say a dagger as 5%+ 30% weakpoint, it's not 35% reduction of pdr but EX: 100 AR - 5% = 95 PDR - 30%= 66.5 AR. Even if you stacked 30% armor pen 3 times (30% + 30% + 30%), it would reduced their AR by 66%, not 90%, which is why stacking AR + HP is so busted, if they made so it cumulative (100 AR - 90% = 10 AR) instead of what we have, PDR wouldn't be so meta.
The shift in the PDR curve has made light armor a little better and plate a little worse. I believe that short sword got a decent buff bringing a legendary up to 34 base damage max. There are also a lot of rogues out there... but we all know which class is a better rogue... THE TIME OF SLAYER FIGHTER SUPREMACY HAS COME AGAIN!!
@@tombofthememelich2192 ran that recently and had 41% action speed with a 60 damage short sword after physical power and additional weapons damage it’s pretty op
I’ve been loving the lantern shield after the changes, I’ve been running it with a war hammer and counterattack, shield mastery, defense mastery, and swift. It works so so well just bait a block and then counter and then with the armor pen it’s so fast and it’s been making people panic and it’s hilarious
That BoC from the warlock was so high because he was running a dark offering build. Its actually a decent skill if you set up a full buff duration kit.
@shaynezeller7069 Whats the maintenance like for solos? I have a crazy buff duration/ resource kit for bocloc but feel like I need a cleric duo for heal maintenance
@@Diet_Rifles its like a gamble, if you dont run out of the buffs and have space to reset them you will mostly win but you need to be careful against ranger and rogues or even slayer fighter because you lacks range weapon and they can out run you 😅
@MakivPoli5592 would it be a good idea to keep that thang on me (a spellbook) so I can spam CoP? I realize I wouldn't have tm so it wouldn't heal me but it might be decent to do a little range dmg and bait melee encounters
@@Diet_Rifles Also it’s extremely easy to keep your health topped off if you decide to run spells or not. Without spells just bring a lot of potions and you have so much buff duration they heal a ton. With spells just run hydra drain and vampirism is a must in both load outs with this build
Next time, try stacking a bunch of magic healing. It wont be as efficient as a barb running it because u wont have potion chugger, but being able to heal through everything is crazy. Edit: also, the cheeky little dark and darker logo to cover the cancer is hilarious
Reckless must work as weakpoint or even as buff without hit land require to work, that's a fact. If you have any brain you just block it with shield or force him to hit your leg. All barbs weapons are super easy to block or parry
There is significant diminishing returns on armor, You are correct the stat PDR scales ur max affective health better as its higher, but AR as in ur armour rating(what gives you your pdr value) has SIGNIFICANT diminishing returns anything past 50 esp now. In the most recent patch plate kite is down around 5% and cloth kits are up 5% with the change to the scaling curve of AR. Hope that helps explain👍
@Zorkalot the armor value gain is less but the effective hp it grants becomes exponentially better so the lower armor gain is effectively the same effective hp, arguably better
@@justinparker6117 the pdr scaling curve did not change at all. Just the AR curve, so overall pdr value for plate kits is down, meaning lower max affective health
i got two tapped by bos warlock as slayer fighter on 124 norms, and 3 tapped by short sword rogue, and one tapped by bear druid, I hit all of them more than 3 times too, 23:50 we finally agree with something, longbow is busted, also nerf bear/panther damage
I like how you missed the part when he said that fighter is most easy and braindead class to play, which allows you to make multiple mistakes and still win. That's what we agree with for sure
Yep fighter with no plate should be able to tank 20 bear headshots and 50 if he is wearing plate. The only way to make fighter balanced, he dies way to quick
Ironmace gets more and more clueless with every patch. I'm a bard main and I even can see how stupid making buckler -7 MS is. Rondel fighters were already too fast.. Now they can be 75% PDR as well. Not mention eternally invisible rogues. Also I laughed when Thelorr watched a Warlock use Dark Offering and then pop BOC and still pushed into him, then wasted second wind.
Bard was broken all the time and just sleeped on because most of players don't have enough skill to play it. Insane damage, action, ms, ranged option, insta item swaps, very high pdr and hp with buffs and good gear. Shriek is totally broken ability regardless of nerf
I don't play but still watch but I don't get it, wasn't fighter already broken? Why did they get such a massive buff? Shield gives less movement speed penalty and u can get higher max PDR? Or was it cause arena was dominated by ranged chars
Well if you think about it second wind saved him there. Since he decided to go after the warlock that 10% literally saved him from second wind with how low he was
Todd just doesn't want his ezpz class nerfed. There's absolutely nothing wrong with playing Fighter but I'd respect him more if he acknowledged the fact that it's better than other classes in most scenarios. Balance in this game is a headache; I wish devs would fully focus more on new content rather than these adjustments
bro at 21:00 moment I saw bro start channeling that shit I knew that lil bro was NOT tanking that boc that warlock prob had like 150% or more magic power bonus 😭😭😭
bro took a bear 1v1 and won with more than half hp while and missing about 70% of the dagger-hits and eating every single attack from the """bear"""" but fighter is not broken.. the coping is insane sometimes
Lorr is half hp at the end. Druid is literally wearing half unique half epic gear with some good rolls. And lets not ignore the fact that Lorr just won statcheking ENRAGED bear with a rondel and never used his shield just straight up tanking hits. So you are saying that fighter should be able to WKEY enraged bear and win with 20hp missing? Are you ok?
@ that gear was piss no strength 😂 all Those pieces he had outside the jewelry is 300 for a unique stop the cap Druid gear is probably the most cheapest in the game buddy are you okay he had on absolute PISS for bear form and almost killed a 70% pdr fighter with second wind wake up sht head
don’t run this build what he failed to realize is that demons glee and crystal sword fight slams this build he just had good matchups, ran into crystal sword warlock loses even without boc the lock had a chance
not even joking I built this the moment they opened the servers then locked them again for a few hours bc I wanted to try it in arena spent all my gold, tho I'm broke asf so only got like 66% pdr (I also forgot that you could role additional %pdr so coulda prob got it a bit higher)
As much as I like fighter. I feel I play better on barbarian and ranger. I always run reckless too, it's the best! Disgusting video Lorr as always lol!
Me and my friend ran something similar to this and died to the first wizard we ran into. Fighter should honestly be able to medium resist both physical and magical. The 75% pdr cap really won’t matter if half the players you run Into are faster and use ranged attacks. Plus building that destroys your move speed. It would benefit the class more to put the cap back to 65% and give them a 5-10% boost to magic resist. #BUFFFIGHTER
@@ILLLWill fighters and druids whining always brighten my mood. always something to cry about. when you win most engagements while making 10 mistakes that kill any other class that requires competency, you should probably take the fighter buffs in stride and stop talking about balance.
Bruh gets full swing cycled by a longsword and double headshot and doesn’t even get below half hp then says” damn longsword does damage” like no it doesn’t bro lmfao
magic spells, transforming into demons and animals and calling upon the divine to smite and heal but the most powerful ability in dark and darker is the ability to sprint. Usain bolt would mop lobbies with a baseball bat
@@gaffgarion yup he took a bear 1v1 and won with more than half hp while and missing about 70% of the dagger-hits and eating every single attack from the """bear"""
@@dayronm5304 Bear with wild fury activated. Its a 6 second ability, easy to kite and wait out, but he chose to tank hits. I understand that with his kit price you can build even better melee facetanking wkey barb, but at least barbarians have no access to ranged weapons
Hahaha, fighter gameplay is so funny. You almost die in every fight and kills only noobs. Still win couse use most brocen wepon in a game, but i rly like see your suffer. Make classic build next time withs long, or sword. Rondel is boring, wanna see how you dies 10 times withs op gear.
"anytime you see a marauders outfit assume they have 180 hp" thats probably my fault
DUDE F U AND UR STACKED BUILDS RUINING MY GAMES jk big fan luv u bro
I be wearing marauders in 124 now and people think I’m thicc but I’m just tanky and slow and hit hard with funny sword
lol. gg
@@fukkgogl-lk4ut i am sure that your appartment smells like cat piss.
SHUT UP MICRO DRIP
"I'll take your BOC bro, you're gonna do nothing" *loses 75% of his HP bar*
Always respect the BOC
fr bro i got too cocky and lost my cinder to BOC
Dark offering with BOC
LOL YEP
9:45 you just earned my undying respect
bro that Desync block actually saved your life at 8:20 and i dont even think you noticed lol
i think the taunt ability has always been underrated, but now getting that +10% with a 50% uptime is just nice, easily can get higher pdr, i'd love to see you try.
It's actually insane bro I ran a kit like his but with less hp and taunt/ sprint the other day and I'd have 2 people trying to kill me while my buddies slapped them in the back. It turns you into a juggernaut 😂
lol called armor rating
@@Dirtyfrank-p3y huh
@ stacking armor rating giving you like 25% extra pdr if you stack on all pieces
@Dirtyfrank-p3y oh, it isn't quite that drastic, maybe another 10% 15 maybe if you got max rolls on everything but kind of pointless with barricade and taunt. You don't even need additional ar with taunt tbh
I might be bit biased but increasing the pdr cap to 75% again is crazy, at capped pdr you have 4x EHp compared to base hp and you can negate the MS penalty with swift and momenteraly with sprint to catch people. Imo they should have dropped the pdr cap to 65% with the perk and with out perk to 55%, at 55% you still mitigate half of the raw physical damage. There still is true damage but it's the same on 55% 65% or 75%, just remove true and up the armor pen rolls, would be crazy to build 100% armor pen build :D although thats too much, currently armor pen feels useless since you can just stack true and be better. What is the max possible armor pen that you can build now with out any skills or perks?
Doesn't even matter because armor pen adds one by one, so if you stack armor pen, it gets diminishing returns for each "thing" that has armor pen, let's say a dagger as 5%+ 30% weakpoint, it's not 35% reduction of pdr but EX: 100 AR - 5% = 95 PDR - 30%= 66.5 AR. Even if you stacked 30% armor pen 3 times (30% + 30% + 30%), it would reduced their AR by 66%, not 90%, which is why stacking AR + HP is so busted, if they made so it cumulative (100 AR - 90% = 10 AR) instead of what we have, PDR wouldn't be so meta.
6:15 frendliest London interaction (IK IK)
Its always nice waking up to a new video of thelorr!
You’re the goat for all these builds hahaha
The shift in the PDR curve has made light armor a little better and plate a little worse. I believe that short sword got a decent buff bringing a legendary up to 34 base damage max. There are also a lot of rogues out there... but we all know which class is a better rogue... THE TIME OF SLAYER FIGHTER SUPREMACY HAS COME AGAIN!!
@@tombofthememelich2192 ran that recently and had 41% action speed with a 60 damage short sword after physical power and additional weapons damage it’s pretty op
YES
In the recap of the Q&A, you said “tomorrow’s video” and I LOST IT. You have really good videos. :)
I’ve been loving the lantern shield after the changes, I’ve been running it with a war hammer and counterattack, shield mastery, defense mastery, and swift. It works so so well just bait a block and then counter and then with the armor pen it’s so fast and it’s been making people panic and it’s hilarious
That BoC from the warlock was so high because he was running a dark offering build. Its actually a decent skill if you set up a full buff duration kit.
@shaynezeller7069 Whats the maintenance like for solos? I have a crazy buff duration/ resource kit for bocloc but feel like I need a cleric duo for heal maintenance
@@Diet_Rifles its like a gamble, if you dont run out of the buffs and have space to reset them you will mostly win but you need to be careful against ranger and rogues or even slayer fighter because you lacks range weapon and they can out run you 😅
@MakivPoli5592 would it be a good idea to keep that thang on me (a spellbook) so I can spam CoP? I realize I wouldn't have tm so it wouldn't heal me but it might be decent to do a little range dmg and bait melee encounters
Negative mdr -am I a joke to you?
@@Diet_Rifles Also it’s extremely easy to keep your health topped off if you decide to run spells or not. Without spells just bring a lot of potions and you have so much buff duration they heal a ton. With spells just run hydra drain and vampirism is a must in both load outs with this build
Took you long enough lorr I was waiting for this one. Disgusting changes hahaha
Damn bro gotta respect that BOC. Bait the first hit of Crystal sword and block the second
"im such a good guy man" lmao very humble as well lol
Next time, try stacking a bunch of magic healing. It wont be as efficient as a barb running it because u wont have potion chugger, but being able to heal through everything is crazy.
Edit: also, the cheeky little dark and darker logo to cover the cancer is hilarious
16:23 can lorr not divide 180 by 2 in his head?
just built one of these for arenas before this video jacks the prices up.
Reckless must work as weakpoint or even as buff without hit land require to work, that's a fact. If you have any brain you just block it with shield or force him to hit your leg. All barbs weapons are super easy to block or parry
Funny enough arming sword w/ heater shield is one of the few builds that can counter the rondel
There are not diminishing returns on armor. There is an odd scaling curve, but ultimately the more pdr you have the more insane it becomes.
There is significant diminishing returns on armor, You are correct the stat PDR scales ur max affective health better as its higher, but AR as in ur armour rating(what gives you your pdr value) has SIGNIFICANT diminishing returns anything past 50 esp now. In the most recent patch plate kite is down around 5% and cloth kits are up 5% with the change to the scaling curve of AR. Hope that helps explain👍
@Zorkalot the armor value gain is less but the effective hp it grants becomes exponentially better so the lower armor gain is effectively the same effective hp, arguably better
So I guess my original comment is technically wrong and misleading but it was the laymen's way of explaining that it really isn't bad to stack
@@justinparker6117 the pdr scaling curve did not change at all. Just the AR curve, so overall pdr value for plate kits is down, meaning lower max affective health
Lorr said he'd tank magic damage from the crystal sword lock XD. My buddy made a pdr lock and he was
STOMPING melee classes in arena with pis gear
That boc was epic
"Fighter has so much room for error it's crazy" - TheLorr finally killing a rogue he would have melted with one skill useage on ranger
Right xD he was right about arming sword being too weak and rondel too stronk
i got two tapped by bos warlock as slayer fighter on 124 norms, and 3 tapped by short sword rogue, and one tapped by bear druid, I hit all of them more than 3 times too,
23:50 we finally agree with something, longbow is busted, also nerf bear/panther damage
I like how you missed the part when he said that fighter is most easy and braindead class to play, which allows you to make multiple mistakes and still win. That's what we agree with for sure
Yep fighter with no plate should be able to tank 20 bear headshots and 50 if he is wearing plate. The only way to make fighter balanced, he dies way to quick
idk if it still works but you should do a pavise sheild bash build for the lols
Seriously tho. It's wild how much fun moshing actually is lol.
disgusting stat check gameplay
can you run a solo cleric build?
"would you take a look at that?"
try slayer fighter after the short sword buff. pretty crazy when built right. HP, true phys, action speed. easy
How do you leave someone’s gear and hand you get it back if someone left yours ?
Goblin merchant recovers your gear if no one took it, you have to buy it back from him
Ironmace gets more and more clueless with every patch. I'm a bard main and I even can see how stupid making buckler -7 MS is. Rondel fighters were already too fast.. Now they can be 75% PDR as well. Not mention eternally invisible rogues.
Also I laughed when Thelorr watched a Warlock use Dark Offering and then pop BOC and still pushed into him, then wasted second wind.
Bard was broken all the time and just sleeped on because most of players don't have enough skill to play it. Insane damage, action, ms, ranged option, insta item swaps, very high pdr and hp with buffs and good gear. Shriek is totally broken ability regardless of nerf
7:24 every one has done this once on accident torch swing instead of throwing
why no comments vs fighters?)
Rondel and buckler? I am a bit dissapointed ;D
I don't play but still watch but I don't get it, wasn't fighter already broken? Why did they get such a massive buff? Shield gives less movement speed penalty and u can get higher max PDR? Or was it cause arena was dominated by ranged chars
great guy
21:25 i can tell you don't play fighter much, just by you using Second Wind after getting hit by the 90% heal debuff from BoC.
Well if you think about it second wind saved him there. Since he decided to go after the warlock that 10% literally saved him from second wind with how low he was
Todd father says it is a nerf, and my boy lorr said are you sure about that?
Todd just doesn't want his ezpz class nerfed. There's absolutely nothing wrong with playing Fighter but I'd respect him more if he acknowledged the fact that it's better than other classes in most scenarios. Balance in this game is a headache; I wish devs would fully focus more on new content rather than these adjustments
@FoldingTeaLeaves haha, I'm right there with you on those issues.
Turdfather in shambles
21:21 thats dark offering damage
21:19 thelorr doesn't know
does armour rating even do shit on mobs that goblin tanked your health when the fighter barely tickled you
Haven't reached that part yet but it could be because goblin poison is magic damage
@MouseRave even still
bro at 21:00 moment I saw bro start channeling that shit I knew that lil bro was NOT tanking that boc that warlock prob had like 150% or more magic power bonus 😭😭😭
Ikr
I don’t think he knew what dark offering looked like
Sorry bro i was the third party at the end! I use ur kit for arenas now lol
With that kit you may not be 4 tapped anymore by rangeeers
Buff fighter ❤
isnt the hardcap 65%?
Defense Mastery on Fighter makes it 75%.
bro took a bear 1v1 and won with more than half hp while and missing about 70% of the dagger-hits and eating every single attack from the """bear"""" but fighter is not broken.. the coping is insane sometimes
fighter is broken and everyone here knows it :)
the funny part is rogue missed many hits too and he was so close to kill him XD
@@gieta4240 yeah... currently, it feels like rogue is pretty good in general, even tho they "cry" the most.
Chad lobster 😅
??? You ate a full fireball and lived 😂😂
Face tanking a bear...
would u take a look at that
bro sees warlock casting dark offering: "yeah I don't care about your BOC bro" => 80% hp one hit 🤣
Ttk is so much lower now…fights rogue for over 5mins.
I love you Lorr, you are so handsome
thefloor
Its wild how differently the communities play in different regions. For goblin caves in OCE its mainly just rangers and rouges.
The fact that the Druid got you low in piss shows you how broken that bear is
Lorr is half hp at the end. Druid is literally wearing half unique half epic gear with some good rolls. And lets not ignore the fact that Lorr just won statcheking ENRAGED bear with a rondel and never used his shield just straight up tanking hits.
So you are saying that fighter should be able to WKEY enraged bear and win with 20hp missing? Are you ok?
@ that gear was piss no strength 😂 all
Those pieces he had outside the jewelry is 300 for a unique stop the cap Druid gear is probably the most cheapest in the game buddy are you okay he had on absolute PISS for bear form and almost killed a 70% pdr fighter with second wind wake up sht head
-5% mr, Feel like with the availability of magic damage in the game rn that's a Deathwish even with barricade
This is immortal
I believe the word you're looking for is immoral lol
@@173muppet makes sense HAHA!
LORRRRRRR!!!!!!! make a mage killer build and my life is yours!!!!!
a ranger player saying any other class is the easiest is hilarious
don’t run this build what he failed to realize is that demons glee and crystal sword fight slams this build he just had good matchups, ran into crystal sword warlock loses even without boc the lock had a chance
people are already runnign your build theloor
not even joking I built this the moment they opened the servers then locked them again for a few hours bc I wanted to try it in arena spent all my gold, tho I'm broke asf so only got like 66% pdr (I also forgot that you could role additional %pdr so coulda prob got it a bit higher)
it's not 70 pdr, you aren't blocking
68.7 percent and you complain it’s not 70? Lemmy guess you’re the kid who hates it when your veggies are touching other foods on your plate
As much as I like fighter. I feel I play better on barbarian and ranger. I always run reckless too, it's the best! Disgusting video Lorr as always lol!
Me and my friend ran something similar to this and died to the first wizard we ran into. Fighter should honestly be able to medium resist both physical and magical. The 75% pdr cap really won’t matter if half the players you run Into are faster and use ranged attacks. Plus building that destroys your move speed. It would benefit the class more to put the cap back to 65% and give them a 5-10% boost to magic resist. #BUFFFIGHTER
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@ Just a thought lol there needs to be some serious time put into balancing the current classes before we get yet another overpowered caster.
@@ILLLWill fighters and druids whining always brighten my mood. always something to cry about. when you win most engagements while making 10 mistakes that kill any other class that requires competency, you should probably take the fighter buffs in stride and stop talking about balance.
Bruh gets full swing cycled by a longsword and double headshot and doesn’t even get below half hp then says” damn longsword does damage” like no it doesn’t bro lmfao
Help!!!!
its a shame you are trash unless going in OP as fuck.
Seen some of these kits before...annoying to fight
wear golden scarf, complain about getting headshot by longbow, L take
Fighter has been dominant for almost a year. I dont understand how it can be the most played class but not get nerfed at all
magic spells, transforming into demons and animals and calling upon the divine to smite and heal but the most powerful ability in dark and darker is the ability to sprint. Usain bolt would mop lobbies with a baseball bat
@@gaffgarion yup he took a bear 1v1 and won with more than half hp while and missing about 70% of the dagger-hits and eating every single attack from the """bear"""
@@dayronm5304 Bear with wild fury activated. Its a 6 second ability, easy to kite and wait out, but he chose to tank hits. I understand that with his kit price you can build even better melee facetanking wkey barb, but at least barbarians have no access to ranged weapons
ME 2ND
The game now is just stack HP and true dmg good job SDF the game suck
nerd alert
Hahaha, fighter gameplay is so funny. You almost die in every fight and kills only noobs. Still win couse use most brocen wepon in a game, but i rly like see your suffer. Make classic build next time withs long, or sword. Rondel is boring, wanna see how you dies 10 times withs op gear.
ive been a longsword fighter since playtest 2 and builds like this disgust me & one of the reasons to why game is so shit
LORR GKS ARE 1200 RN AND SO CHEAP, PLEASE DO KEY RUN LUCK VIDEO IT WOULD BE SO BISS AND VERY COST FRIENDLY