Big Bull Capone 53rd with Big respect for my homie my friend and my brother Sinbad 43rd great talk love one u know I got yo back always keep up the loyalty I love u bro 💯💯💯.
At 11:44 He mentioned Big EJ (RIP) from Main Street Mafia. I never banged but I grew up on 105th and Main Street. Back in the late 1970s my pops used to pay EJ (who was a young teenager at the time) to fix me and my siblings bicycles. EJ (whose real name is Clarence) and his younger brothers, Troy (Rat Capone RIP) and Roy (Big Redeye) lived on 103rd and Main Street. The Green and Rowles (Ice Mike, Del Dog/RIP, Cool Aid and Crazy C) families were cool people.
From 10:30 to 11:00 is on point and 100% fact. Outside of the Original Eastside Crips, the Mafia Crips, and the Castle Crips, those Hoovers from the early 1970s were putting the "Crip" on Cripping, especially the 74 Hoovers. They were everywhere, just as he stated. They were super deep from the Westside of Fremont, on back to Vermont and Budlong, and from like Gage to Imperial. But they were super deep from Florence to Manchester.
@Itzmilktv If you understand geography, I stated that the Hoovers functioned heavily West of Fremont. That's from the San Pedro side and heading West. The majority of the Swans were and are on the Eastside of Fremont, the Avalon side. The 77 Swans or Main Street Swans were also on the San Pedro side, though. Shout out to Andy and Coop 👊🏽👊🏽
@KevMacVideos ! That's right Kev Mac! I just had a feeling the first time I heard Cinbad that he probably had a lot of knowledge n experience on the Culture!
I like the way he broke that down. Eastside Gangs didn't play the common enemy or guilty by association card, while the Westside gangs allied themselves among eachother according to common enemies. Watts, Compton, SGV, I.E and those other cities & regions outside L.A group together according to geography not common enemies or guilt by association.
Exactly 👍 they not taking on a beef of a westside GC set when they got they own program. They get hate for not falling in line but they been cool with east coast forever so they not changing that just because 83 say so.
Reorganizing My KEV MAC Playlist Of Fav's Cinbad Hit It Out Park!! LUV THE HISTORY BIG KEV MAC IS THE GOAT DON'T LET NOBODY TELL DIFFERENT!! Nothing But Reputable's Laccin No Smut Just HISTORY!! 🔥🔥🔥💙😎✌🏾
Cinbad is correct here … Da EastSide is probably the most gritty area in all of LA County …. But the W/S arguably put Gang Violence on the map due to all the big wars ETG & Hoover vs NH Crips made alot of sets choose sides …. Even though EC never made a decision to war with ETG, I heard they got a mutual respect between each other ~
You are correct there was never a war between ECC and ETG. We had some difference with ETG but got resolved due to the mutual respect. There is family connections with ETG and especially the 6 Pacc ECC.
@@straightfromthegate974883 Main St Started in 1976 there were 83Hoovers in 1972 It’s a OLD original gang is probably why You never heard of it the youngest dude from 83Main ST. Is 50years old
very interesting interview i like how he drop that word from his vocabulary he well informed on how they thing is run another great one in the books kev ty
Great interview.... I put this one in the same bag as HAWK...BIG MIZZ...BIG NUGGET....AC....AND POOKIE in terms of breaking down sets....Instant Classic
Great Content and conversation from a CERTIFIED OG and not someone in there early 30s that don't even know their history like some other platforms do..Salute Kev!!
@Kev Mac Videos I was waiting for @Cinbad to mention Santa Barbra 😂😂😂😂😂😂!!! But this time he had me rolling when he said what ever part of the interview you post you better watch it..😂😂
Damn, he mentioned Fat Dog from Raymond Crip, who was on the movie Dead Homiez…. lol just realised when he said the name, these guys have all heard of eachother atleast in a plac LIKE LA with that many gang bangers in one city
When cinbad started saying cuhz I knew he was opening up more of his personality. And his personality is in the right place for it Also the coast portion goes right to wat big cartoon said and what lil doc said
G’RAT 53AGC I checked out all the parts in this story CinBad is my dude and I respect he’s take on it (The ES Etc..) we all got our own versions grownin up on that ES, I take my Hat off to CinBad he’s Cripn we also was in YTS together etc..we also played in the Sand Box together at Riggley Fields AKA Gilbert Linsey Park in the mid to late 70s when he was claiming 74 Hoover lol before 43 lol I’m one of the only dudes who know this we can still laugh about it till this Day we was like 10-11 yrs old this ain’t no shade or disrespect Sinbad is my Guy, I grew up in 43 b4 transitioning to 53 in 1980 after camp Kilpatrick 1 thang tho, 53s ain’t never been low on #s & we always stood tall in that Section, South Park always had major Recognition & 48s wanted to be from Avalon But our young homies on the 47th side of 53 had personal beef with them and they went with the 43s The 3rd world era Dope Game is what brought 43s across Vernon which is 44th st/Central etc..which roughly was bored 52 Villian, 53s bored is Central/vernon/slauson to main
@@anthonym-zs5xn' Why you kept saying your Mom lived on 99th & Central, when I went to school with your brothers Benard & Bobby, aka Dice from Hat Gang Watts? I use to play with them when I was a kid, and your Mom lived on 96th & Antwwep? Also, you kept mentioning your brother Toshay, but not Dice!? Do you have something against Hat Gang Watts? Because it seems you "FAILED" to mention the long relationship between HGW & 43GC which is crazy cause there was a relationship there, since the early 70's! And, the fact that the HGW had homies on Towne & Vernon, living there for over 25 years! Was a hang out, and place to go to get away from Watts...You seem like you bias! I "THINK" I know why you didn't want to speak on HGW, but it's not for the Internet! Other than 43, KCG, and 89 NHC, HGW is one of the oldest Crip Sets on The East Side! I saw comments from a Hat Gang in this series, and Kev Mac kept DELETING them?! I wonder why?
@@TruthHurts777 My apologies ! I remember Mike and his brothers lived in my hood. For you to say I intentionally left Hat Gang out is false and out of line. The interview was base on the origin of 4Trey not my love for Hat Gang . Elijah Larkins from Hat Gang is an old time stump down friend of mines. My Dad had several kids with Dice mother hopefully you understand why I mentioned 99th and not 96th. For you to mention my brothers you've got to be someone close. Homie that interview had to come off the top of my head I didn't write nothing down. No love lost on this end
Booke T. Started out with the Q102 then flipped to 52BGC. He has a lot of history on Raymond and when 52BGC clashed with ECC. Homies wanted them to turn ECC. Alot of info on Tyrone. Cuzzo a little different now, but if you ok with that element, he has a lot of history to share.
Maybe in LA county The Gangsta car is. But not in Orange County The Gangsta car out numbers the nhc/rollin car by a lot. Bc. It’s only one nhc and that’s Sa watergate nh100s The rest all gangstas
Honestly , I don't understand why people (me included) like jail or prison stories, it's definitely not hard for black person to go to jail or prison, sidenote: crip and bloods seem like a lifestyle, but Chicago gangs seem like nation, with structure and purpose, LA gangs seem like some free for all, but shout out to all
@joemosely9383 yeah , u right , I'm from Cincinnati and the police department is the only gang that really runs anything, it's more like neighborhood clicks, but the crip thing is kinda weird, because fades lead to extreme violence between men here , it's like a no hands policy, women fight
@trueblue5028 I saw a version of the bloods in a neighborhood or two but they are not taking seriously, just some teenagers and I think they was under like the ubn or new York bloods in 90s the Rollin 60s had a few teenagers but the mass didn't want to be associated with that because that Cali shit, and really it was seen as dick riding....
Cinbad macheads riding with you homie interview fire KM what's understood don't need to be said they know how you coming hard in the paint no Diddy fool
Cinbad a lil older so he kind of out the loop but the 43s and 83s relationship ain’t that good it ain’t beef but the 83s look at 43s and n lover ifykyk and they don’t like that 43s to inherit they beef which they shouldn’t because the 83s don’t inherit the 43s beef when it comes to blood set
I wonder how is he and everybody else is a ninja? I don't see any ninja swords on them nobody never heard anybody studying and fighting in the ninja style of martial arts. Like it's silly as heck for everyone is being called a ninja when nobody never fight like one nor had any of the weapons like one. Smh🤦🏾 make no sense, straight nonsense!
Eastcoast were originally concentrated in the 60's, 68, 69, and 6-Deuce Neighborhood. The other Coast clicks came on board later. They existed, but they added the Coast name later.
@KevMacVideos Well, they were 89NH originally, and I knew some of them growing up. 76 Place was originally Shack Boys, and I know all of the Originals there. The 11-8s were originally Block, and Q102 originally didn't have the Coast last name. I went to elementary school with some of them who later became East Coast at 93rd Street School.
I loved how he corrected himself to refrain from the n-word. That’s super growth sending respect to the OG from Bama RSNHCentralCityCrips
Facts
What's wrong with that word?
@@SmokeOne89if you don’t know don’t ask
@@mactay206 ha
God bless you brotha
Big Bull Capone 53rd with Big respect for my homie my friend and my brother Sinbad 43rd great talk love one u know I got yo back always keep up the loyalty I love u bro 💯💯💯.
Honorable stuff ❤
At 11:44 He mentioned Big EJ (RIP) from Main Street Mafia. I never banged but I grew up on 105th and Main Street. Back in the late 1970s my pops used to pay EJ (who was a young teenager at the time) to fix me and my siblings bicycles. EJ (whose real name is Clarence) and his younger brothers, Troy (Rat Capone RIP) and Roy (Big Redeye) lived on 103rd and Main Street. The Green and Rowles (Ice Mike, Del Dog/RIP, Cool Aid and Crazy C) families were cool people.
CINBAD WILL BE ANOTHER ONE WITH HIS OWN PODCAST THANKS TO KEV MAC… HE DEFINITELY HAS THE PERSONALITY AND PRESENCE 💯
From 10:30 to 11:00 is on point and 100% fact. Outside of the Original Eastside Crips, the Mafia Crips, and the Castle Crips, those Hoovers from the early 1970s were putting the "Crip" on Cripping, especially the 74 Hoovers. They were everywhere, just as he stated. They were super deep from the Westside of Fremont, on back to Vermont and Budlong, and from like Gage to Imperial. But they were super deep from Florence to Manchester.
The Swans didn’t even cross Avalon in the 70s
@Itzmilktv If you understand geography, I stated that the Hoovers functioned heavily West of Fremont. That's from the San Pedro side and heading West. The majority of the Swans were and are on the Eastside of Fremont, the Avalon side. The 77 Swans or Main Street Swans were also on the San Pedro side, though. Shout out to Andy and Coop 👊🏽👊🏽
@@Itzmilktvyou was a little baby then speak facts not hearsay
@@Itzmilktvand you not even outside
@@dcree3730 lol
Nice job Mr.Mosley, much love and utmost respect, your rolldog and childhood friend... OG Lil LA LA 62nd Street ECC.
This is a real good series so far! Cinbad is authentic AF!
This guy is instantly in the Top 15
I always expected 43 would be good
@KevMacVideos ! That's right Kev Mac! I just had a feeling the first time I heard Cinbad that he probably had a lot of knowledge n experience on the Culture!
Facts
@@thesands4098*I said the same when he was live with Kev Mac on Kev Mac Live Streams, the black channel.*
@tarheelred28390 Right! Like oh yeah, it's On!
I like the way he broke that down. Eastside Gangs didn't play the common enemy or guilty by association card, while the Westside gangs allied themselves among eachother according to common enemies.
Watts, Compton, SGV, I.E and those other cities & regions outside L.A group together according to geography not common enemies or guilt by association.
Exactly 👍 they not taking on a beef of a westside GC set when they got they own program. They get hate for not falling in line but they been cool with east coast forever so they not changing that just because 83 say so.
THE CHANNEL IS ON FIRE RIGHT NOW. KEEP IT ROLLING LIKE IT'S BOWLING MAC.
It hurt a bit at the end when he said that his mom pretty much let him go in and out of the foster homes. He had the biggest heart and still does.
damn
Reorganizing My KEV MAC Playlist Of Fav's Cinbad Hit It Out Park!! LUV THE HISTORY BIG KEV MAC IS THE GOAT DON'T LET NOBODY TELL DIFFERENT!! Nothing But Reputable's Laccin No Smut Just HISTORY!! 🔥🔥🔥💙😎✌🏾
Awesome interview Big Kev Mac and Mr Cinbad. Thanks for the history drop of your section Mr Cinbad fasho. Peace and blessings from Cali Bay area ✊🏿💪🏿
🔒 in with OG Kev..respect KMV
Cinbad is correct here …
Da EastSide is probably the most gritty area in all of LA County ….
But the W/S arguably put Gang Violence on the map due to all the big wars
ETG & Hoover vs NH Crips made alot of sets choose sides ….
Even though EC never made a decision to war with ETG, I heard they got a mutual respect between each other ~
You are correct there was never a war between ECC and ETG. We had some difference with ETG but got resolved due to the mutual respect. There is family connections with ETG and especially the 6 Pacc ECC.
@@ricorashid1700 Yea I heard the family connection as well …
He looks like T Rodgers✅
Right
Yeah
Back to back heat! Creep and Cinbad. Two straight up dudes 💯
Good to see you back doing interviews! Your content is appreciated and respected.
Good interview,i luv hearing the truth,i luv hearing about this real old school hommies and crippin."Eastside" 4 Life. Baby Cow movin
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Good one Kev Mac! Shoutout Cinbad! And Big Ups to my Homeboy J-Bone VSLC I remember when he was in the module at that time.
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@@Austintx78721 What up Bro
Just chillin
Them 6duces ecc he named 💪👊if you know you know
Them 69ecc as well solid
@@melmanning298 the whole 6 pacc in general
I met big Slip Dog From 83 MainStreet in 2011 when he pulled in the set to link up with my Brother big Hoover Trey
Yeah straight rida
83 Main st? Never heard of it
Shut up milk, b!tch
@@straightfromthegate974883 Main St Started in 1976 there were 83Hoovers in 1972 It’s a OLD original gang is probably why You never heard of it the youngest dude from 83Main ST. Is 50years old
🤥 🎓 cap 😂 yeen even like that frfr
I remember Too Shay from High Deasert State Prison. He told me the same thing about his Mama...lol...that's crazy. Great interview!
When and what yard was you on in HDSP?
@@dewey_breaux 1998-1999. C-Yard
@@dewey_breaux 1998-1999, C-Yard
@@salinasvalleystatepr ok...what building I might know you?
@@dewey_breaux 2 block
RIP Scrappy straight rider💯
Brother talk without interruptions. Kev skill is getting better.
Kev been GREAT❤
Cinbad 1 of them 1's. He need like 10 parts.💯
I remember 43 EC
very interesting interview i like how he drop that word from his vocabulary he well informed on how they thing is run another great one in the books kev ty
Great interview!
PEACE 7
I’m tuned in . 🫡💯
KevMac
Keep him for awhile. Love his stories. Great interview. I like how you let him talk and your questions are on points
Salute to the Channel.
Yep good one right there nice interview on east side gangs
Classic
Good interview. Criping seem like hard tuff life.
Great interview Kev....
Great interview O/G Big Kev Mac
Great interview.... I put this one in the same bag as HAWK...BIG MIZZ...BIG NUGGET....AC....AND POOKIE in terms of breaking down sets....Instant Classic
Kev Mac 💙♿️💙♿️ i jus wanna show my appreciation for your hard work thanx
Great Content and conversation from a CERTIFIED OG and not someone in there early 30s that don't even know their history like some other platforms do..Salute Kev!!
He looks and reminds me of me of the late great T-RODGERS FROM BPS👌🏾💯MUCH LOVE
That damn KevMac done it again!
Damn good Interview!
Kev Mac a genius! Letting these OGs speak.. the best interviews man 💯
@Kev Mac Videos I was waiting for @Cinbad to mention Santa Barbra 😂😂😂😂😂😂!!!
But this time he had me rolling when he said what ever part of the interview you post you better watch it..😂😂
My long lost family member i grew up with as kids i lived on Woodlawn insane was at my house every day
This interview is great!!! Kev barely had to speak! And Cinbad memory is impeccable!!
That Jail was one of the craziest places on earth!
another great interview, lets go kev mac lol
Damn, he mentioned Fat Dog from Raymond Crip, who was on the movie Dead Homiez…. lol just realised when he said the name, these guys have all heard of eachother atleast in a plac LIKE LA with that many gang bangers in one city
RIP FAT DOG WT 52ND STREET BGC
When cinbad started saying cuhz I knew he was opening up more of his personality. And his personality is in the right place for it
Also the coast portion goes right to wat big cartoon said and what lil doc said
Movin
Whatever part he comes with stay tuned 😂
Cinbad series is good!
Cuz has a memory like a elephant. Very knowledgable Crip. Very Historical figure.
Lil Cinbad my Cig Homeboy
Good interview 43GC is a very historical gang hope to see me💯
G’RAT 53AGC
I checked out all the parts in this story CinBad is my dude and I respect he’s take on it (The ES Etc..) we all got our own versions grownin up on that ES, I take my Hat off to CinBad he’s Cripn we also was in YTS together etc..we also played in the Sand Box together at Riggley Fields AKA Gilbert Linsey Park in the mid to late 70s when he was claiming 74 Hoover lol before 43 lol I’m one of the only dudes who know this we can still laugh about it till this Day we was like 10-11 yrs old this ain’t no shade or disrespect Sinbad is my Guy, I grew up in 43 b4 transitioning to 53 in 1980 after camp Kilpatrick
1 thang tho, 53s ain’t never been low on #s & we always stood tall in that Section, South Park always had major Recognition & 48s wanted to be from Avalon But our young homies on the 47th side of 53 had personal beef with them and they went with the 43s
The 3rd world era Dope Game is what brought 43s across Vernon which is 44th st/Central etc..which roughly was bored 52 Villian, 53s bored is Central/vernon/slauson to main
LOVE YOU G RAT THIS IS CINBAD
@@anthonym-zs5xnlikewise love one, u already know the Deal lol
@@anthonym-zs5xn' Why you kept saying your Mom lived on 99th & Central, when I went to school with your brothers Benard & Bobby, aka Dice from Hat Gang Watts? I use to play with them when I was a kid, and your Mom lived on 96th & Antwwep? Also, you kept mentioning your brother Toshay, but not Dice!? Do you have something against Hat Gang Watts? Because it seems you "FAILED" to mention the long relationship between HGW & 43GC which is crazy cause there was a relationship there, since the early 70's! And, the fact that the HGW had homies on Towne & Vernon, living there for over 25 years! Was a hang out, and place to go to get away from Watts...You seem like you bias! I "THINK" I know why you didn't want to speak on HGW, but it's not for the Internet! Other than 43, KCG, and 89 NHC, HGW is one of the oldest Crip Sets on The East Side! I saw comments from a Hat Gang in this series, and Kev Mac kept DELETING them?! I wonder why?
@@TruthHurts777 My apologies ! I remember Mike and his brothers lived in my hood. For you to say I intentionally left Hat Gang out is false and out of line. The interview was base on the origin of 4Trey not my love for Hat Gang . Elijah Larkins from Hat Gang is an old time stump down friend of mines. My Dad had several kids with Dice mother hopefully you understand why I mentioned 99th and not 96th. For you to mention my brothers you've got to be someone close. Homie that interview had to come off the top of my head I didn't write nothing down. No love lost on this end
@@anthonym-zs5xn' I respect that, you, and 43GC...My apologies as well Homie!
Damn yeah i f%ck with his interview damn good
Kev ask cinbad when he said little flux fron 62 ecc is he talking about willie talos?
Yes that's my homeboy !
Well you homeboy is a HDSP D-yard legend...transferred to Lancaster about 2 years ago...but they still talk about him up there
Booke T. Started out with the Q102 then flipped to 52BGC. He has a lot of history on Raymond and when 52BGC clashed with ECC. Homies wanted them to turn ECC. Alot of info on Tyrone.
Cuzzo a little different now, but if you ok with that element, he has a lot of history to share.
Hoovers were influential
11k views 800 likes don't add up. Hit the like 💯
Kev you need a FAN Cuzzin they cooking in there
Correct me if I’m wrong
The Gangster car outnumbered in the county ?
That what it seem like by his talking
Numbers change and so do the members. Any given day or week it can flip.
Maybe in LA county The Gangsta car is. But not in Orange County The Gangsta car out numbers the nhc/rollin car by a lot. Bc. It’s only one nhc and that’s Sa watergate nh100s The rest all gangstas
He connected some dots for me regarding ES politics
Dam, you just name my uncle Lil Cokie
It must hit in that room him and creep stayed sweating
Main street history would be epic they keep that mafia mentality but that would be interesting
The homie Dopey still around?
💯💯💯
Shout the founder of the Macheads set KM also shout out Baby Smac KM been dropping motion pictures on TH-cam since 2016 fool
8Tray Main Street?
Yes you heard correctly.
@@KevMacVideos crazy cause he mentioned still bill (lil doc) cause he’s the only other person i’ve heard mention 8Tray Main street
Im a crip homie i aint going nowhere
Kev u remember Lil Doc saying he never met a homie from 62 Diamond?
Cut he also said he fucc with them
I got corks and bottles ready
Real rip there how he say cuh
Y'all hit that 👍
Turn the damn ac on Kev mfz be hot asf telling these stories 😂😂
So tired of that line… you can’t hear the AC blowing? And the fan was on too. There’s 2 lights in his face and it’s Las Vegas dammit. 🤷🏽♂️
@@KevMacVideos lol
😂😂
Speak on 3rdworld
Another ABSOLUTELY,TELL ME👊🏾👊🏾💪🏾
🔥🔥✌️
👊🏽👊🏽👊🏽
You want the story Yeahhh tell me 😂😂😂
Honestly , I don't understand why people (me included) like jail or prison stories, it's definitely not hard for black person to go to jail or prison, sidenote: crip and bloods seem like a lifestyle, but Chicago gangs seem like nation, with structure and purpose, LA gangs seem like some free for all, but shout out to all
Chicago Gangs Stop Having Structure Decades Ago.
@joemosely9383 yeah , u right , I'm from Cincinnati and the police department is the only gang that really runs anything, it's more like neighborhood clicks, but the crip thing is kinda weird, because fades lead to extreme violence between men here , it's like a no hands policy, women fight
@@brotherwalt9319 Cincinnati got Cali gangs to at least they did when I was there in the early 2000s
@trueblue5028 I saw a version of the bloods in a neighborhood or two but they are not taking seriously, just some teenagers and I think they was under like the ubn or new York bloods in 90s the Rollin 60s had a few teenagers but the mass didn't want to be associated with that because that Cali shit, and really it was seen as dick riding....
@@brotherwalt9319 Cincinnati is Detroit New York Chicago Atlanta and California mixed together so who's dicc is yall riding now
Cinbad macheads riding with you homie interview fire KM what's understood don't need to be said they know how you coming hard in the paint no Diddy fool
Cripping for a thousand years 😆
Cinbad a lil older so he kind of out the loop but the 43s and 83s relationship ain’t that good it ain’t beef but the 83s look at 43s and n lover ifykyk and they don’t like that 43s to inherit they beef which they shouldn’t because the 83s don’t inherit the 43s beef when it comes to blood set
Wonder which old man he talkin bout
1986 in 4800, gotta be speaking on Oldman Dane.
Probably the young one
No shit huh didn't even think about that! Baby & tiny my roll dawgs@@joemosely9383
@@markhemiable There was only Big Oldman in 1986. The others came later.
2 ce continued.....
83rd always dissing cuhk them from 43rd. They call them 4traitors
83s & 43s both get along with ECC , both had beef with Hoovers , both beef with 60s & 90s. Who did they betray ?
Brother shared a lot of info, mentioned many names and sets, but i’m more confused now after listening to him than i was before he started….
What parts maybe I can help you get some clarity without overstepping my boundaries.
Great interview Kev....i like this ninja frm 43....bro gotta helluva mouf piece too. Good shit.
I wonder how is he and everybody else is a ninja? I don't see any ninja swords on them nobody never heard anybody studying and fighting in the ninja style of martial arts. Like it's silly as heck for everyone is being called a ninja when nobody never fight like one nor had any of the weapons like one. Smh🤦🏾 make no sense, straight nonsense!
But anyway I guess they want that type of silly title. I'm done and finished and over with, with that.
Kev yo next live with sinbad gone blow up😂📖📖📖
Definitely will happen soon brace yourself.
Why aren’t they ECC?✅
Eastcoast were originally concentrated in the 60's, 68, 69, and 6-Deuce Neighborhood. The other Coast clicks came on board later. They existed, but they added the Coast name later.
They wanted to keep they originality which is 43rd street gc
Surprised you don’t have 89 on the list with the 6 Pac.
@KevMacVideos Well, they were 89NH originally, and I knew some of them growing up. 76 Place was originally Shack Boys, and I know all of the Originals there. The 11-8s were originally Block, and Q102 originally didn't have the Coast last name. I went to elementary school with some of them who later became East Coast at 93rd Street School.