🔴 10 YEARS of Leica M! (Get MORE from your M Camera)(Leica M10 Street Photography)
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Matt, i watch your videos all the time. Subscribed. I learned early on when i was 17, now 69 years old, to ALWAYS include MOOD into your photos. I started out doing photos in the Everglades, in Florida,USA. Fog was my best friend. Like you,i got tired of all the weight, Nikon F2as, 4 lens, including a 300mm f2.8. What a toad. Now use a M10R, but mostly my M10 monochrome, with the Thambar 90mm,f 2.2. Love that lens. Also,picked up the LLL 50mm,f2,ll, on your recommendation, great old style results. And yes, i like this style of video, keep them coming.Great 2024,Sir.
Thanks Robert! Wise words and nice setup you have too.
Hi Matt! Great video full of tips and explanations!! As always, great job and useful information about Leica Ms! 👏
Thank you!!
Excellent video Matt!
Thanks David!
I especially agree with your point about learning how to use the M camera much faster with the M10. I bought an M3 and M4 last year, and my results were less than stellar. Just added an M10 to my collection, and the immediate feedback, along with the almost identical look and feel to the film cameras has been a great help in relearning manual focus and proper exposure for the film cameras. Having an Automatic exposure setting on the M10 is nice too, because it allows me to concentrate on focus.
Great, yes a big help I think for film users
Great video, Matt! I def agree about the soft shutter release. It really made shooting my M6 so much more enjoyable.
Thanks Greg, great!
Snow! In Poland! Who would have thought it!
Another great one, Matt! Minimalism comes in handy sometimes.
Thanks Michael!
Excellent video Matt, beautiful images.
Like in prior comments I made on Gdansk videosI love that Gdansk area in the winter (read snow)
Love the greyish look on the shots, it really emphasise the feeling of cold and winter.
Well done and thanks for sharing
Thanks! Yes i've never really appreciated bad weather as much as this trip :)
Love the pictures. Good tips and place to visit.
Thank you!
Thank you for a super video and I love the content and the super pictures.
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Great video.. I really like this Street photo walkaround it give me a lot of inspiration for mine. Thanks for the 41 tips... and The toilet photo is really great ! 😊
Thanks Grom! I was lucky with the bad weather!
Another wonderful and inspiring video Matt, although I was shivering thinking how cold it probably was with those winter shots🥶
Thank you! Yes it's rare for me to wear that many clothes and I stopped for hot tea half way. Look out for the M10 vs M240 video to come and you'll see :)
Welcome in M10 family Matt. You will love it as I do with my M10-R
Thank you! I got there eventually!
Amazing Video!
Thank you!
Wow Matt! What a great video with so many tips! I'm curious about the ISO settings of your great snowy street shots. Can you tell us how the dispensation is from your (lets say) 50 "keeper" photos? I love the look of those. Your black and white toning is already on point with the M10.
Thanks Tobi! I had a quick look on LR.. the later snow photos were from ISO400-6400 (later was darker so at 1/250 f4 it auto-selected higher ISO). The toning is the new M10 presets i'm working on so i'm glad you like them. I know you shoot more models but the 25/4 LTM is so good on a RF camera! (Has 3 soft stops, 0.7, 1.5, 3m I think). How all RF lenses should be! Very light too.
Thanks for the nice views Matt, can't wait to go there again :) Also I was afraid you were going to make too many vids tempting me towards the M10 haha hope it doesn't get out of hand 😅
Haha thanks Thomas, and I will try not to make you get the M10 :)
Glad you visited my hometown
Thanks! I’ve been a regular visitor for over 10 years. Great city and people.
Matt, you made the finest photographs of trains and the railway world, showed
on the You Tube channel ever.
A very clear impression of perspective, composition of plains, linesand BW tonalities.
Did you, like I did, study The Fountain Press booklet:
How to photograph trains, published in London in 1962,
price 5/6?
The book gave information on cameras, like the Miniature 24x36 mm, the Folding 6x9 cm
and the Press 4x5 inch models.
Those were the days: a fast Ilford HPS emulsion, an orange filter for the contrast between
the steam clouds and the blue sky, a short exposure time for a sharp image.
Nobody had to worry on bokeh, aperture blades, soft focus, a wide f/ 1,1 aperture, DOF, zone system, graded ND filters, multi coating or push and pull processing.
My last Ilford glass plates had been developed in the largest photo laboratory/ photo studio
of the Netherlands in Rotterdam in 1967.
Today everybody is thinking he is a photograper. I bet, one day somebody will have a
huge problem with his 4x5 inch large format view camera, recently bought with a
dozen of expired Ilford HPS glass plates:
"How must I bend my exposed 4x5 glass plates to get them into the developing spiral of
his Paterson Multi Unit tank?'
Thanks Jaco, no I just shoot what looks good to my eyes! (RAW + preset, done)
6:49 like that shot, and lots of others. Thanks a lot!
Thank you!
5:27 Unless you use the live view, there is ONLY center weighted metering. And if you UNDERSTAND how center weighted metering works, you don't need any default exposure compensation to protect your highlights, because you would lock in the exposure by measuring either a middle grey exposure value in the scene by half pressing and recomposing (or dialing it manually on the top dials in the first place) or metering for what you want to be middle grey. The M10 works EXACTLY like the metered analog M6, M7 and MP bodies in that way. Most people who complain about the M10 blowing out highlights simply have never cared enough about learning how to use the center weighted metering.
Very good tip, thanks! I'll be honest, i've always shot full manual so this experimenting is new for me. I thought I would try it so I could comment on the feature in the video. My setup worked great for quick grab shots in the street but for models i'll stick to manual as I often use more complicated lighting which will confuse the camera.
Agreed with only centre-weighed metering (exception on M11). Now I have used M cameras for over 30 years and digital Ms for about over 8 years, and as Matt recommends, I do also, most of the time, set the aperture compensation at - 0.7 for street or landscape photography. Doing so eliminates your need 90% occasionally blowing out highlights and there is so much one can get back from shadows it would be pointless not to do so. The visoflex is useful with lenses beyond 50 mm, working below f 2 for precise focusing, close-up focusing (0.7 to 0.5 m) and seeing in BW while shooting with the RAW (to keep the color option) + JPG in black and white.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I do agree with the - 0.7 exposure compensation for the reason stated in my response. It also works best for me (even better with an M monochrome!!!).
Just bought the Wotancraft 18L from their flagship store in Taipei! Been using their 3.5L and now I have a setup like yours! Perfect for my M, and Yashica TLR! Thanks for the tips and great ideas!
Great stuff! Yes I use the 2L or 3.5L in the top instead of the compartment and it works great.
..I was carrying 3 Leica M, maybe 6 lenses, video camera, laptop and everything I needed for 3 days all in the 18L!
That’s incredible! I’m mostly a one-camera-one-lens guy on the streets. M-P 240 with 50 Summilux pre-ASPH. Been wanting to add a Leica M2 or M3. Or upgrade to M10 like you just did? Maybe I’ll book a zoom with you to discuss!
@@kayrei Yes please do, happy to help!
Love your street/ landscape photography Matt. Please do more. Sorry but more interesting than all those poised models.
Thanks! Yes the bad weather made it quite fun doing the street photos. I guess I need to chase bad weather! :)
So many good tips for photographers whether or not they shoot a Leica M! Thank you for this every enjoyable and interesting video. Your photos look excellent as always. I especially like your point about inclement weather being great for photography generally. It sounds like you are very much enjoying your M10 -- how would you compare that to your 240?
Thanks! M10 v M240 full video to follow. I just want to complete my testing.
It is always great to see a new video from you on a rainy film scan/editing day, Matt! I wish it snows here more often, it is truly beautiful to photograph in the snow, maybe because it is rare here. I cannot agree more about having a digital M for any film M photographer. I got my M240 because I was inpatient when I send in my M3DS for CLA, and it was THE best photography decision I made in over a decade. The intuitiveness of the M is an open invitation to photograph the world around us. I had been taking photos since the 90's on film to now, and the M changes me so much as a photographer, even in 6 months time. I always worried so much about setting when I take a photo, shutter speed aperture, exposure, etc. Now when I go out for street photos, I set the M on auto ISO and shutter speed then just emerge myself purely in the photographic experience. Of course there is still a time and place for technical photography, but I now leave that for my commercial work.The latest thing I learn is setting minimum shutter speed on auto ISO on the M; it will still compensate for us when ISO is max out, which is brilliant. I do however need to remember to take that out of auto ISO when I do model photography work to have a little more control.
Thanks Rex! Great to hear. Yes like you I use manual controls with models and auto ISO for street grab shots.
18:03 If you really care about close focusing lenses on a Leica M body, get non-M lenses of your choice (e.g., Leica R, Minolta MC/MC etc.) and adapt it to the M and use live view/external EVF with focus peaking.
Yes! I was going to talk about that but was trying to keep the video "shorter" ha. Yes totally agree. SLR lenses are much better for focusing closer, especially wides. I love the Voigtlander SL lenses in Nikon F mount. I've shown those in previous videos. The 20mm and 28mm focus to like 20cm or something. Great tip, thanks!
6:27 Careful with minimum shutter speeds on the basic M10! It does not provide you the ability to handhold shots at 1/15th of a second as you will be able to do with an analog Leica that has the horizontally moving cloth shutter! My rule of thumb for vibration free shots on my M10 is 1/2n focal length for shutter speed, even for non-moving subjects. The M10P, M10D and other bodies have the dampened shutter that might allow you more freedom with less vibration.
Thanks, thanks a really good tip. I guess the M240 is the same as the M10 so i'm probably used to it without knowing. With ISO 6400 I don't think i'll need it too often but great to know.
Yes you are right 100%. I use 1/30th from time to time but not on the fly (street photo). In those cases I carefully brace my self of find support on a tree, a bench, a wall anything that makes me steadier.
After over 30 years with Leica Ms and over 8 years with digital M, I confirm all your tips (just avoid going one way and then the other, ex. with the visoflex, no and then yes, which may be confusing for novices, the rest of us understand the ambivalence ;0); by the way the M10-P is worth the upgrade (if you find a used one when the difference with the M10 is minimal). Happy New Year Matt.
Thanks Bruno, the touch screen focus point on the M11 really annoyed me with LV (never centred) and the M10P has that same issue. (Can’t turn off LV). Otherwise the P looks great.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Yes but what incidence has it got on the range-finder, none, and besides I found the touch screens annoying on AF camera but not on range-finders.
@@BrunoChalifour it’s a problem when I want to use LV and punch in 100% in the centre to check focus
Matt, check out the Shoten M42 or Nikon F to M adapter for 50mm lenses. The adapter itself has rangefinder coupling and can double as an extension tube if you use the Visoflex EVF or Liveview. I have the M42 version and I'm shootimg a Zeiss 50mm F1.4 Planar with it on my ME240. Excluding the camera, the whole setup costs no more than $600.
Thanks Eric! Yes I've had the F-M adapter for many years and use F glass on Barnacks sometimes ha. A Patreon let me use his Shoten M42 last year. Worked well but I prefer RF glass most of the time and esp. on M cameras.
Excellent everything. What’s the best soft shutter release for m10 people? Thanks
Thank you! For me ones that cost 3 for £10 not $60 each :) ..I just looked on eBay
The calibration issue is relevant, when using e.g. the old Soviet lenses, like the fantastic Jupiter 8. I fixed it on the Jupiter 8 by opening up the lens (easy to do) and inserting a (thin) paper spacer between the two parts of the lens. Incredibly, it worked. Another lens I have, a tiny Leica 90mm 2.8, is more difficult. It is always unsharp at infinity and 2.8, and I consistently have to stop down to f8 or more to get sharp photos using the RF.
Thanks Thomas, yes I completely agree. It's more of a problem that I remembered after being spoilt with my Leica SL. Many of my nice vintage lenses are not spot on from the few I tried. Soviet yes but lenses on some adapters too like the fantastic Nikkor S.C 50mm f1.4
That is when the visoflex can be of help.
Bad-weather photography is great, innit? My tip: carry a small paintbrush or a shaving brush to brush off the snow from cameras and lenses, and a microfiber towel to clean off water droplets.
Thanks James, I rarely see "proper snow" so this was a real treat. Great tips, yes I can see those both being really useful to carry.
Great tips video! These always get me in the mood to shoot. I'm still quite new to the M10m, so this was definitely helpful for me.
Thanks and great stuff. Yes I sometimes get the same inspiration from other channels so happy to "help!'
If you have an M10m Matt's advice of -0.7 exposure compensation can be shifted to -1 even -1.5 as the Monochrome does not tolerate highlights even slightly overexposed (just one channel so no escape to the other 2 channels as in color sensors) and there is so so much you can get back from the shadows, it is just amazing.
@@BrunoChalifour Nice. Thanks for the advice!
The Zeiss flektogon 35mm F2.4 with adapter is cheap and focuses down to 0,2 meters, and is a lovely vintage lens
Thanks! Great tip. I think I did look at that lens some years ago but never pulled the trigger. I have some Voigtlander lenses in F mount that focus really close too.
absolut Mega Linse, nutz ich auch an der Sony✌✌👌👌
Thanks for the video. There was an advertisement for the Pixii camera so I'm curious if you've had experience or an opinion about this new RF camera
Thanks Paul, yes YT keeps showing me the same advert! No opinion as yet but if I get to test one I'll be sure to make a video.
Another cracking video Matt, lovely shots. I'm just over a year into the Q2, I love the thing, however I'm always fighting the M urge haha, so I remind myself I love shooting in crap weather and the Q2 with it's weather sealing and that awesome flexible lens generally always gets shots I'm more than happy with. The fight goes on! Have a great '24 mate.
Thanks Paul! Yes the Q cameras are the "gateway drug to M cameras" as I titled one video. You are stronger than most..so far! :) Just try not to think of all the interesting classic lenses where you decide the look of each photo from the lens that you attach to the camera rather than being limited to a single look. Soft and dreamy one day, ultra model APO images the next! I love lenses too much so I couldn't use only my Q. (Just do more bad weather photos!) :)
Haha trying NOT to think of those lenses cheers for help my resistance haha@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
Tgese types of pragmatic videos are great.
Thanks Thomas! That's just how my brain works :)
Thank you again for these explaning video, nearly all points are correct. The only argument to disagree is the use of the Visoflex. I do use on my M11 nearly only the visoflex because I use it from the top to imitate waist level finder, the SL cannot do that!
Thank you! Yes excellent point for the EVF as a WLF. I have mentioned that in more specific videos so sorry to gloss over it here.
The question is why use a Leica M then and not use the rangefinder. There are cameras that have orientable EVFs and do not cost as much as a Leica rangefinder ;o)
@@BrunoChalifour there is no other system that small, using the Noctilux and offering that pristine design and build quality. And doing street I do use the range finder
Love the behind the scenes work. Nice to hear about how you work with M cameras. Thanks!
Thank you!
I'm not sure if the M10 has this feature, but I think for the M9 and M240, you can keep it always on instead of turning it off and half press the release button to wake it up.
Yes I think you might be able to do power save off instead of 2,5,10mins as I talked about. Good tip, thanks!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Yes you can turn off power saving altogether. The issue sometimes is by reactivating the camera you may take a shot (welcome in Polish winter [pun]).
Awesome video, question please.. How do you set up your preview to be BnW and the RAW is colour? thanks
Thanks! Set JPEG to mono even if shoot RAW only.
Thank you!
Great video Matt!
Thank you!
I try to avoid looking at the screen all the time. It saves a lot of battery, and I just keep the camera turned on all day and for days. But also for the reason of experiencing my photo excursion far more pleasantly and trust my settings, I avoid using the screen. I have one spare battery with me and rarely need it.
Great. I can do that more for non-portraits but I still flatten both batteries with current use during a day travelling
Hi, I loved the idea of turning the M camera into a point and shoot w the Voigtlander Snapshot Skopar 25mm f4 but it appears it is not comptible with Leica M cameras. Would you please advise? I can't find an M mount version of this lens.
Thanks, yes the Snapshot is not RF coupled but it's a point and shoot lens so you don't need it. It 100% works on all M cameras so ignore what you read. (LTM lens needs M-LTM adapter to mount it). (There is a M lens too which is RF coupled if I remember well).
Wow - extensive video, great!
I recognise that sensation when you’re travelling & everything is beautiful and you just enjoy shooting everything. It’s a wonderful phenomenon.
Now what I find very interesting is that you mention the relatively slow f4 lens allows you to use the m10 as a real point and shoot camera, as almost everything will be in focus with distance set at 1.5m. Am I right to assume that this doesn’t apply to a faster lens stopped down to f4? As you can guess this question comes from a Q2 owner and i don’t think this would work when I stop down from f1.7 to f4.
But then, the downside of a slow lens is you will run into difficulties when shooting with low light or even doing night photography, no? I mean, do you use shutter speeds of 1/250 at those occasions while still keeping iso low enough to prevent noise? (I find the Q2 quite noisy and the grain is less attractive than on my Leica SL.) it would be great to see the photos that you shot in more detail (perhaps they’re on Flickr?).
Finally, regarding your remark of the crop advantage of m10r, yes that is definitely a pro, but from my experience with the q2 I can also tell this comes at a price, as the higher resolution will be unforgiving when there is any camera shake. I guess one can’t have everything!
All best from Amsterdam,
J
Thanks J! Yes I’ll try to post some street photos on Flickr. Yes it’s simple physics so any 25mm lens at F5.6 at 1.5m will have the same depth of focus. The wider the lens the more depth. Great point on M10R and yes if you saw my Q-Q2-Q3 video the Q2 is not great in low light.
thanks Matt, enjoyed the shots, information and presentation 👍🏼
Thanks! Much appreciated.
Great video! Poland in the snow is beautiful. If you have faster lenses - f/0.95 or f/1.2, say - I think you'll need an EVF so that you can focus accurately when shooting "wide open." I'd rather have an M camera with an EVF attached than a through-the-lens SL2 which doesn't need an EVF. Also, I know you were not shooting in the rain, but I don't believe Leica M lenses are waterproof. I'd be careful with water.
Thanks! Yes I wouldn't use the M in the rain..unless drizzle etc. See my recent fast 50 video. I used the 7A 50mm f1.1 on the M240, RF only and nailed all the shots. That's what made me "re-love" M cameras and order the M10. Use a 1.4x magnifier to help precise focus (see the view I did recently). EVF work too ofc, but I want to keep my M like a classic M. Small.
I've seen a video of Cartier-Bresson holding - and effectively hiding - his Leica lllf (?) in just his right hand. It'd be fun to see him trying to do the same thing with Leica's 75mm f/1.2 Noctilux lens mounted on an M10-R. (That's my normal setup for street photography.) @@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
Am I right in saying that the different meter patterns on the M10 only apply in Live View ie if you select spot metering it only works in Live View? When using the range finder the meter only uses the centre weighted pattern. Think I read that in the manual!
Hi Paul, yes correct (I think). I normally use full manual mode so this is all new to me haha.
Thanks for the useful tips.
I enjoyed watching your 21-minute video while exercising on my stationary bike.
Thanks, great combination!!
great video, i will watch this again and again
Thanks Steve, i'm glad it's being well received!
Heavy Metal Leica M 10
Matt, did you tinker the iron rings
plus strap to the Leica body yourself?
Get you a nice scratchy look and sound.
Ha thanks Jaco!
Yes I understand. The thing is I never use live view. (Instability issues, reflections,… never as good as ovf and evf except over crowds ;0)
Ah makes sense. I wonder if there is a button to easily recentre the focus point in LV. That would fix the issue I have with it.
Matt…. Are you shooting in b&w with your 25mm Skopar because of colour cast / purple fringing? I use my canon 25mm ltm a lot but it’s not the sharpest lens, but it works well on the m10
Hi Simon, no I shoot all lenses in B&W.. I don't even look at the colour RAW.. I add a B&W preset to all so it's like I had a black and white camera. (99.5%.. sometimes I do colour if testing lenses etc or if the photo had great colours. You might have spotted a few colour in this video.
Quite timely and helpful with me just having recently purchased my first M (an M10).
Congrats on your first M! and good choice with the M10 I think. I've loving mine. See my other videos for everything Leica and the Leica club link below the video or on MrLeica.com will give you all the info you need to get started.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom The first nice thing with the M10 and followers is that we are back to the comfortable size of the film Ms (the thickness of the M240 has always bothered me). Clear advantages over the M240: better size, better and quieter shutter, far better ISO upper limit (a real plus for me), GPS in better visoflex. [loss: potential use of video]
Are those sneakers in polish winter snow ? You'll get cold wet feet... That aside - lovely shots ❤
Thanks! It's OK they were waterproof cross trainers so perfect for shallow snow.
Another great video. I am an M user but so far have not had snow on it. Thank you very much.
RS. Canada
Thanks Richard, yes we see less snow in the south UK too!
Oh man, please please try out the enlarger and let us know how it goes!!!
Thanks, I will try. I was buzzing when I got it and "all in" on printing and then had to wait 2 months for chemicals from Germany by which point i'd bought the M10 (a distraction). I'll get to it as I know i'll love it with my creative/ painting background.
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Thanks!
You said it in an earlier post, but it goes with saying again, cosmetic surface problems as on your M10 do not affect the performance but do reduce the cost. I got a pretty worn M9 that had the factory replaced sensor and circuit board at a better price because it looked worn. It performs like a champ. You are always a gold mine of info, tips and encouragement. Cheers.
Thanks Sandy! Yes I was very happy to pay less for the leather wear. The rest of the camera looks pretty good and it matches my black M film cameras.
Hi Matt, apart from Leica, where is the best place be to have the sensor on my Leica M8 cleaned, profesionally, if you don't want to do it yourself? Thank you, Matt
You could ask regular camera repair stores if they are happy to do it
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks for the info, Matt
very useful tips. As I started with a Q3, resolution was the reason for me to get a M10-R. And I got it in silver, but put a black Alphag4urd-skin on it, to get a more stealthy appearance.
Thanks and nice idea getting a silver camera then a new skin!
I have been shooting with the M10 and it's Mono cousin since their release and I still wrote down 11 of your tips. This led me to subscribe to you. I have a tip for you: When shooting in snowy conditions use a hood hat (search the term on B&H). Q?: is the model @ 9:39 Elena Koshka? Also, would you be willing to do a video devoted to helping visoflex-dependent M10 shooters wean off of it and become adept with the optical VF? Especially getting the exposure spot on? I miss decisive moments because live view requires a fraction of a second to close the shutter before activating it at your chosen speed. Thank you for the many helpful tips and for considering my video request. Highest regards, Joe Cunningham
Hi Joe, thanks so much for the feedback and i'm glad you found a few new tips for your M10 use! Elena? No - I Googled her. Hood hat? Ah a student brought these to a workshop once. I didn't know that's what they were called. Yes great idea for bad weather photography. Great tip! Wean off EVF..nice idea.. I will have to go through the same process by not using my SL so yes perhaps I can put a future video together once I get my RF ninja-ness back! It's all I knew with the M8 and M9 so I was good. Work in progress but i've a note for you. Thanks for the sub!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks for considering a ‘lose the evf” video. My motive in requesting it is that I also have an M7 and rarely use use it (almost never) because I feel like a stranger in strange land and I’m a focus peaker and, mainly, I’m never confident that my exposure will be correct and so I always default to the M10 for those reasons and miss out on the film experience, and the inherent beauty of it. For what ever reason (perhaps grain?), film photos look more fixed in time, whereas digital photos look more like they could be a frame from a video.
@@joecunningham_mpls yes RF experience/ faith will directly transfer over to film. It’s a plus tor me too!
Thanks for this awesome video.
M11 Comment
Yes, it's more electronic, but the experience can be minimal to mimic a film camera, the shutter is super quiet, and the battery life is unbelievable. The design just looks so clean and the Fn buttons are ace.
Some of the electronic benefits I feel are for the better:
Light metering is more accurate - I have more photos I can use without any adjustments, which rarely happened with my other Ms. (As your comment about M film users needing to learn manual compensation)
Fotos app and remote connection - the connection is reliable. I can turn on remote capture, pretend I am looking at my phone, but actually frame and take photos. I think this has helped to disguise and take more candid shots as my nerves are not at play!
I can also review and delete photos in camera through the Fotos app before downloading the SD card, which saves some time in the post workflow.
Thanks Stevie! Yes I do like a lot about the M11 black - weight, battery, base plate, USB-C, shutter.. I'm glad you are enjoying yours and yes I love the idea of the remote shots for say cafe or tube photos where people are next to you!
It is also more expensive for the time being which is an argument for many, Matt and me included I guess ;o).
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaComyou can do all the Fotos App remote focus and shooting with the M10 too. M11 lacks lots of bits that make an M an M. Brass being the main deal breaker.
It makes no sens to buy M gear new, except if you're loads of money of course : Leica M owners are most of the time very careful with their gear, and some do want the new model as soon as it brings out. Hence, few days ago I bought a "mint" M10M 5000€ (instead of 8350 new). Likewise my 3 M lenses.
Thanks Marc, yes most of us can't afford them new but if people can then go for it. Used prices offer excellent value if you son't mind waiting a little. Congrats on your M10M!
Hi Matt, one tip when you are in Poland (I'm Polish btw) is not to shoot trains and train tracks becouse as of mid 2023 it's forbidden by law and the penalty is quite big so just have it in mind... I shoot leica m to so best regards from fellow leica shooter from Warsaw 😊
May I ask why it’s now been made illegal?
I was curious also , The days of spy’s taking photos of trains went the way of Dinosaurs .
@@RobertCant-mo2nkthere have been spy groups using railway lines to monitor equipment headed to Ukraine.
@@RobertCant-mo2nkProbably fears about spies / sabotage of infrastructure. The ongoing Ukraine conflict is on Poland’s doorstep.
@@RobertCant-mo2nk Train tracks and trains are treated as war critical infrastructure, so after the war began in Ukrainie, there were incidents of Russian spying on this infrastructure. Fro me this law is reduculess, and made it very difficult for people that love to photograph trains as a passion project. To photograph trains legally you need a permit, and good luck getting one...
Nice video and great street shots! Looks so cold there in Poland!!
Thanks! Yes I was happy to take the clothes and footwear I did. It was cold at night (note all the silly headwear I was wearing! ..a first haha)
Did you get the 50 Cron again? I thought you sold it? Classic lens
Great observation! Yes I re-bought the v5 Cron. I planned to make a video a few months ago but life goes so fast. There is a video to come when I get a chance (Quite a big backlog of videos currently!)
How do you protect your cameras and lenses in bad weather ?
As you saw in this video, under a scarf/ coat to keep the worst off
M camera aren’t weather proof, is it a good idea to be taking it out in the snow?
Thanks
Thanks, I think snow is OK, if you saw I tried to protect the camera under my scarf when walking. A few rain spots or snow flakes is not a problem.
I have used Leica Ms for over 30 years and sometimes have had no choice but to use them in rain or snow. I have never had a problem (just been careful to minimise exposure).
So happy your going to review the Thypoch Simera 35mm F1.4!!! Don't get me wrong, I adore my Zeiss 35mm F2.8 Biogon but sometimes I just need more speed for low light. I'm looking forward to your review!. 🙂
Hi Greg! Thanks for viewing despite me not yet doing any darkroom work! Soon! I finally have the chemicals! Yes agree for film a fast lens is really valuable. I think the Distagon is king but too big so we'll see what the Thypoch can do!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom , I'm always happy to support you Matt. I've also got my eye on that Light Lens Lab 35mm F1.4 that's in development. I only wish the Thypoch lens had a focus tab, but maybe I can add the 7 Artisans adhesive focusing tab. That's what I did with my Zeiss 35mm Biogon. Or should I now say Biocron! ;-)
Thanks Matt ! I think any number of your tips apply to photograph in general ;) Guess I'm going to have to get a neck strap ! LOL
Thanks George! Yes fair point and yes with a smaller camera I really enjoyed the neck strap setup.
I think you were smart to get the M10 instead of the M11. I don't think the M11 is fully stable yet. There's a guy on youtube called The F/Stops Here and he has gone through 6 M11's because of various issues with each of them and finally switched to the SL2.
Thanks Nick, 6 M11! That's insane. Yes I would be on the SL2-S by that time too!
Why don’t you use half leather case for Leica M?
I looked at them. I like smaller simple setup so less add ons is better.
Love these wide shots! I'd agree that the M10 series is the best digital M, with the M10-D being my favorite camera ever. I never miss the screen, and have the app if I need live view. I may someday pick up an M11 Monochrom, but I don't love the modernization of the M cameras starting with the M11.
I used to have the same idea but after using the M11 Mono, for now 9 months since launch date, i don't really look back to the bottom plate. It feels closer to a black and white film cam because it is slightly slimmer, battery last so long now i don't need to switch it off after every few shots or do i need to bring many batteries. I just bring one extra, a power bank can charge it when I'm not shooting on the go. Amazing camera, shoot at 50,000 ISO and put noise reduction and it looks like film. I used it up to 125,000 ISO before it starts getting destroyed. Wish there was an M11-MD but with high megapixels, focus shift may be a bummer
Thank you! Yes I really enjoyed the 25mm FL again. Yes others agree and say the M10 family is the best for digital. M10-D.. nice!
Thanks Allena, yes I like the M11 black weight, USB-C, battery and I guess if I ignore many of the modern extras I could enjoy it the same as the M10 cameras.. I think the size is the same as the M10s but I might be wrong. (I forget)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Yeah the dimension is the same but the screen and buttons on the back are little bit more flushed so it felt like it is less thick 😂. Used M11 and used M10R cost pretty similar used now here in Singapore. Also since the M11 is being discontinued, what i think is they are moving forward to the M11-P so those who wants the red dot logo will have to wait for the next M11 variant or get the M11 with less storage and toughened glass instead. For the same price brand new, wouldn't make sense to buy the M11 😂 Plus the Leica engraving on top is superior to the red dot. Also might mean the product cycle is getting shorter which made me pretty surprised, usually Leica takes a longer time between each model
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I may be mistaken, but isn’t the M11 full-time live view, like every other mirrorless camera now? That’s why it has sensor based metering and electronic shutter? It’s probably nice, but it’s not like a traditional M.
Hi Matt. Thanks ! Adding to this, the current EVF2 have issues on the M10 due to outstanding software update for the EVF2. And if you have older lenses from the M film days, it would not be able to resolve the M11's 61mp sensor. It is for this reason that I have stuck to my M10 with my numerous Mandler era M film lenses. Anyway, I do not believe I need 61mp as 24mp is more than sufficient. Take care and love you channel .
Thanks Izzy, great input! Yes I know the M11 cameras still suffer from various issues so it's interesting to hear about the EVF2. In reality i'll never pay that price for an EVF. I don't mind spending money on metal and glass but not that. Great point on old lenses too. Maybe i'll have to try to cover that in a future video if I get the chance.
Then you could opt for a compromise with the M10-R (just a smile, I agree with you for the sufficient 24 Mp in the vast majority of cases).
Bonus tip…. Buy some proper winter boots… haha. Great video Matt, love my M10R especially with smaller lenses such as Voigtlander 35mm Ultron II.
Thanks! I traveled from the UK not expecting quite as much snow so I patted myself on the back even to take the waterproof trail shoes I was wearing. Worked perfectly! Yes I love the little Ultron lenses too. I nearly too it for this trip but went wider in the end.
Hi Matt, it’s good to see you making good use of your M10. I don’t see that the M11 is much more electronic than the M10. It can be used w/o a VisoFlex2 EVF and w/LiveView off (i.e., strictly in Rangefinder mode).
The Leica APO-Summicron-M 35 mm f/2 ASPH is indeed pricey, but I was fortunate to find one of those terrific lenses recently. Leica’s Summilux-M 50 mm f/1.4 is also superb. Both focus well below 0.7 m.
Thanks John! Yes great point. There is a lot I like about the M11, i'll probably end up with one in the future as the prices come down.
The M11 is more electronic than the M10, starting with the electronic shutter (a first in an M model and a plus).
@@BrunoChalifour But you needn’t use the electronic shutter. My point was that if you want to use the camera as mechanical device, that’s possible.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom The M11 is pricey, and the cost will go down. I’m hoping to get the M11 Monochrom soon.
@@johnkasianowicz6536 The way the sensor is wired is different. The way exposure is done is different thanks to the electronic shutter now all options are available (spot, center-weighed and zone metering). If you are working outdoors on a sunny day and want to take full advantage of your lenses at apertures below f2, the possibility that the electronic shutter. gives of going beyond 1/4000s is not to be looked down upon.
All your tips are helpful, but the statement that stands out for me the most is that the M10 makes you (me) want to carry it and take pictures with it. I have another digital system that I use as well as my M10r, and that system works very well with autofocus that allows me to get shots I would not be able to with my Leica - but I don't LIKE to use it as much as my Leica
Thanks Rob, yes! This is really important for me. I want to enjoy what I do so I select cameras (and lenses) that put a smile on my face! I'm glad it's not just me! (I have zero interest in my Lumix cameras but they can still take nice photos).
Do you think we should quit film photography as film costs £18 a roll for Kodak Porta 400
No just don't pick the most expensive film! There are cheaper options. (Dev at home too is cheap)
if your really want to have fun ... Slap on the BRIGHTIN STAR 28mm f2.8 ... ON my M11 , I can put the camera and lens in my back Jeans Pants pocket ..
Yes! I have similar lenses from 7A and funleader. I'm not sure if the Brightin Star lens is better optically. Maybe i'll try to get on in the future now i'm back with M cameras. Thanks!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom probably right on the optically part at f8 its all good , for hitting the streets in cold or bad weather , under jacket , in big pockets , its great ..as long as not another cellphone image lol ..its all good . I like you , You always try to reply and I wish you nothing but the BEST in 2024 and beyond !
@@pnk4444 thanks. I did check out the lens, it looks fun and nicely made but the corners are a bit mushy. Great size though! Thanks for mentioning.
Hi I very happy for you, I would love to have a M10 black body and to travel like you, but I am just guy just getting by. Trying to get back into med school. Maybe one day I will be able to get one with Yahweh-God help. I believe I would like to travel more it look like more fun.
You will, I’m a very average guy that struggled at school. If I can do it anyone can! (Read my money ebook to see how I live my lifestyle and make it possible).
M8!!!!!. Please...😀
Thanks! I will if I can!
Thanks Matt
Thanks for sharing these usefull Tipps. I bought a Leica ME together with a Voigtländer 35 1.5. Honestly my whole experience shooting with a Leica Rangefinder system was not satisfying due to focus system and no real advantage over shooting with my mirrorless Olympus EM1 system. Even in terms of image quality i could not see any significant advantage. Color Science was disappointing to me. There is no Leica Look. IMHO the color science of my Olympus EM1 paired with zuiko lenses are far better and then Leica. Comparing images gave me this result. I have realised that I have underestimate the proficient MFT system and how good the zuiko pro glases are.
Regardless of my so so negative experience with Leica ME i am still interrested in the Leica M10 system pairred with Voigtländer 40 1.2.
Maybe i need to give it a second try and more practice?
Question:
Have you ever experienced the digital EM1 MFT system? Still it color science and the small form factor of body and lenses make this system relevant even in 2024.
Would like to see some new camera tests from your side. Big thanks from my side.
Hi thanks for sharing. I did briefly cover M43 last year. I borrowed an Olympus and enjoyed it so bought a Lumix, then 2 more after. This video was recorded with the GX85, Leica 15mm and Oly 45mm 1.8. Great small size system but I can take it seriously for 'real' photos. I just use for video. Not everyone likes RF cameras so perhaps Leica is not for you but I love how analogue and simple they are and the results too. They make me shoot more whereas my Lumix (M43 or FF) do the complete opposite as I don't value the images (even if as shown in one video, they can be the same as Leica photos). I even do a M43 Lumix preset pack for LR.
Thanks for your quick respond 👍🏻.
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Every time you talk it sounds like you have a never ending cold lol
Ha thanks, yes it’s always like that sadly!
Tip 42: Don't forget to clean the snow off the front of your lens....
Ha thanks William! Yes it was a surprise.. I looked down and had a lens full of snow!
4:06 Unfortunately, that depends on some timing. I bought my Leica M10 used in good condition (some brassing, looks great) for around 4k USD about two years ago. I could not get that same amount when trading it back in against another purchase with camera stores, the M10 prices for the base model have dropped significantly lately. So buying one now is probably a great idea, selling not so much. That said, I do believe the basic M10 has the potential to become what the original M6 is now for analog film cameras - an evergreen classic. Everything about the original M10 is just perfect, it does not compromise or have weird quirks (e.g., software errors) like the M10R, M10P or M10 Monochrome.
Thanks, yes excellent point on timing. I guess like the M8, M9 where prices dropped then kind of went back up. I made money after owning my M8 for multiple years, which was nuts. I do love the idea of the M10-P for the top plate and no red dot (and shutter) but I have no interest in touch screens. Sorry to hear about yours, I think the shop prices stay similar but they buy back for less so they can add a markup.
No quirks after a few years with my (used but in good condition) M10-P. It has a few improvements over the M10 and as such I would recommend it over the M10. What software errors have you heard of with M10-Ps and M10 monochromes?
@@BrunoChalifour some M10R, M10P seem to freeze and have to be restarted by removing the battery.
Yes that may be. I had the same problem from time to time with my M240.
If you need absolute silent shutter, get an M11. It doesn’t work well on moving objects but inside a train (or a church when doing weddings etc) the electronic shutter has no sound. Understandably, those who have had problems with their M11 complain loudly and it’s not really acceptable for a camera that costs this much to have problems. That said, many M11 users like myself have not had any problems so we don’t complain!
Thanks Ian! Yes I got the jello look when I did my M11 video last year but that was with a moving subject.
The most silent Leica M shutter is the Leica M10p shutter and it is far more silent than M11 shutter.Leica M11 is very expensive.If someone has not that amount of money the only realistic scenario to buy a Leica M is to buy an older used a Leica M.
I speak about mechanical shutter.Electronic shutter is not acceptable for me for Leica M users.I shoot a lot of friends weddings ang other ceremonies.Never shoot with electronic shutter.There are also a lot of moving scenes.I really don’t like electronic shutter (even Sony’s and Nikon’s most advanced ones who don’t have big issues with moving scenes.
Poland looks very sad....
I like be it there. I’ve been visiting for over 12 years I think (I used to travel for work)
Tip no. 1 - Do not take pictures of public washrooms when other people are in there. Tip no. 2 - Do not clean you camera lens with snow
Haha thanks Cris, yes agreed! x2 :)
Hahahhaha