UC Berkeley political theorist Wendy Brown talks to Rob Johnson about how the pandemic and protests against police brutality lay bare a crisis of neoliberalism.
This needs WAY more views (listens). I came to this because I couldn't work with my Brown text, as my puppy is very needy today. This is very accessible and I think it's something that many people could use.
Another great discussion. Thank you for your work and dedication. Side note, the poem Rob Johnson quoted from Muhammad Ali was Ali's way of condensing the ancient African concept of "Ubuntu" (I am because you are) into as few words as possible. Ali was a genius on so many levels. Thank you again for sharing that.
Very interesting discussion in this episode. Those who pursued freedom as a primary organizing principle of society at the level of policy and individual choice may tend to have a world view where social transactions are viewed on the basis of a zero sum game. Research from Denmark that has included cross country comparisons has established that very high levels of trust in government officials is necessary to getting highl levels of cooperation with pandemic control measures. This research also uncovered a desire to “see the world burn” by a segment of the population in all countries. They didn’t examine the extent to which income inequality exacerbated these tensions but not offering financial support structures early on with a very weak attempt at educating and encouraging protective behaviors left more people uninformed, skeptical, angry and vulnerable.
Funny. These days it’s mainstream to ‘see the world burn’. Because ‘muh Russia’. And because government tells them to via government sponsored media. Reminds me of the pandemic.
She managed to profoundly insult not only most of Eastern Europe, but Russians in Russia and, to boot, all of us who are White Russian 1917 exile Émigrés. That’s beyond dense & arrogant, despite her intelligence in other domains. (My explanation is that many Californians didn’t travel enough abroad & no, abroad doesn’t include Hawaii & Mexico))
Ummmm you do have the right to complete freedom of your opinion…. As well as having free speech …… what world do you want to live in….. one where someone else tells you what you can think …. That’s creepy as hell.. and sounds like protection against critique
Try again - He most certainly did not "make the vaccine possible". In fact, he berated vaccine developers, then vaccine manufacturers, then those of us who got the vaccine. Now he's finally on the band wagon. Nice try re-writing history though.
This could have been gold, but unfortunately turned Very Trite with Dark, Negative, Hate Filled, Anger Fuelled Political Spin and General Cynical Demagoguery.
I was interested in hearing what she had to say until just 5 minuets into it she said all media is right-wing propaganda. The majority of the media is left-wing propaganda and those that aren't are right-wing. The fact that you were unable to acknowledge that simple truth makes me believe that there is no objectivity, and therefore the discussion is not useful information. That's unfortunate.
I think that you are misinterpreting her. But that's understandable. And I think this comes from people's general misunderstanding of what the left and right are, at least from a theoretical political perspective. For a theorists like Brown, liberal media is right wing. For many average people, liberalism is considered left. But at best it's economically centrist with a veneer of progressive policies. The nominal American right and left are economically the same. And infact, "politicians" like Trump have shifted the discourse to the right so much, that the centre leans far to the right of where it was. To an actual leftist, like Brown, this means CNN and MSNBC are right-wing, in that they share the same economic perspective, i.e. unfettered neoliberal marketization. Fox is of course seemingly more right, but only in their take on culture, not actual economics. But yes, Brown is, by the metrics of general media and US political discourse, very, very left. And she is also very, very correct. And regardless of what you think about the culture war, her and the host's take on alienation is important. Culture is used too often as a distraction.
You are wrong about this...she said "corportately-owned media is right-wing" not all, which is arguably true. As for the "majority...is left-wing propaganda", this is perhaps Trump's and extreme right-wing media's definition, but they are definitely not "left-wing", though they are arguably center-right propagandists. What you consider "that simple truth" is really that constantly repeated lie that is concocted to make people think that Democrats are left-wing...other than with a few exceptions they are Reagan Republicans. But you're not questioning that, are you? Since when has "objectivity" been the sole measure for truth or "useful information"? Do you demand it from every source of information you consume?..from yourself? Clearly with your incorrect preconceived perceptions not being confirmed here, you don't. That's what is "unfortunate" for you.
Yes I do expect objectivity from everyone, but that rarely happens. Both sides are equally ridiculous in my opinion, and listening to the agenda of each is nauseating.
@@arlenegutierrez1880 Too cynical and too naive...quite an odd and self-defeating combination, since you won't learn much if you arbitrarily discount nearly everything out of hand for want of the unobtainable objective source. Objectivity in most areas is rare...in politics it's non-existent because everyone has preferences. All we can do is apply a certain degree of doubt and fact-checking. You seemed quite willing to accept "nauseating" lies and close you mind to new information in your post here, while attempting to assume that you are above it all by wrapping yourself in contempt for the biased views of others. That's not objectivity...it's hypocrisy.
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This needs WAY more views (listens). I came to this because I couldn't work with my Brown text, as my puppy is very needy today. This is very accessible and I think it's something that many people could use.
I agree! It's amazing
Freedom without responsibility is chaos. Brown's students are lucky to have learned from her.
Please explain what you mean by responsibility
@@LibertyGoose Exactly; Moderated freedom may be desirable until such moderation is at your expense.
Thank you for this
This is gold!
Yes! Depth, maturity, and just darn timely!
Great broader discussion of Neoliberalism, which includes Wendy Brown, on "Scene On Radio" , Season 4 Episode 8, The Second Redemption
Amazing! Everyone should be aware of this information.
Another great discussion. Thank you for your work and dedication. Side note, the poem Rob Johnson quoted from Muhammad Ali was Ali's way of condensing the ancient African concept of "Ubuntu" (I am because you are) into as few words as possible. Ali was a genius on so many levels. Thank you again for sharing that.
phenomenal analysis
Very interesting discussion in this episode. Those who pursued freedom as a primary organizing principle of society at the level of policy and individual choice may tend to have a world view where social transactions are viewed on the basis of a zero sum game. Research from Denmark that has included cross country comparisons has established that very high levels of trust in government officials is necessary to getting highl levels of cooperation with pandemic control measures. This research also uncovered a desire to “see the world burn” by a segment of the population in all countries. They didn’t examine the extent to which income inequality exacerbated these tensions but not offering financial support structures early on with a very weak attempt at educating and encouraging protective behaviors left more people uninformed, skeptical, angry and vulnerable.
Funny. These days it’s mainstream to ‘see the world burn’. Because ‘muh Russia’. And because government tells them to via government sponsored media. Reminds me of the pandemic.
If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever. - George Orwell
The Soviet Union?? @26:40...
I couldn't decide if she's being ironic or really forgot about the last 30 years for a minute.
She managed to profoundly insult not only most of Eastern Europe, but Russians in Russia and, to boot, all of us who are White Russian 1917 exile Émigrés.
That’s beyond dense & arrogant, despite her intelligence in other domains.
(My explanation is that many Californians didn’t travel enough abroad & no, abroad doesn’t include Hawaii & Mexico))
Ummmm you do have the right to complete freedom of your opinion…. As well as having free speech …… what world do you want to live in….. one where someone else tells you what you can think …. That’s creepy as hell.. and sounds like protection against critique
Cliche upon cliche. When will something valuable come from this type of thought.
Trump made the vaccine possible, I guess trump thinks of the we
Try again - He most certainly did not "make the vaccine possible". In fact, he berated vaccine developers, then vaccine manufacturers, then those of us who got the vaccine. Now he's finally on the band wagon. Nice try re-writing history though.
This could have been gold, but unfortunately turned Very Trite with Dark, Negative, Hate Filled, Anger Fuelled Political Spin and General Cynical Demagoguery.
I was interested in hearing what she had to say until just 5 minuets into it she said all media is right-wing propaganda. The majority of the media is left-wing propaganda and those that aren't are right-wing. The fact that you were unable to acknowledge that simple truth makes me believe that there is no objectivity, and therefore the discussion is not useful information. That's unfortunate.
I think that you are misinterpreting her. But that's understandable. And I think this comes from people's general misunderstanding of what the left and right are, at least from a theoretical political perspective. For a theorists like Brown, liberal media is right wing. For many average people, liberalism is considered left. But at best it's economically centrist with a veneer of progressive policies. The nominal American right and left are economically the same. And infact, "politicians" like Trump have shifted the discourse to the right so much, that the centre leans far to the right of where it was. To an actual leftist, like Brown, this means CNN and MSNBC are right-wing, in that they share the same economic perspective, i.e. unfettered neoliberal marketization. Fox is of course seemingly more right, but only in their take on culture, not actual economics. But yes, Brown is, by the metrics of general media and US political discourse, very, very left. And she is also very, very correct. And regardless of what you think about the culture war, her and the host's take on alienation is important. Culture is used too often as a distraction.
You are wrong about this...she said "corportately-owned media is right-wing" not all, which is arguably true.
As for the "majority...is left-wing propaganda", this is perhaps Trump's and extreme right-wing media's definition, but they are definitely not "left-wing", though they are arguably center-right propagandists.
What you consider "that simple truth" is really that constantly repeated lie that is concocted to make people think that Democrats are left-wing...other than with a few exceptions they are Reagan Republicans. But you're not questioning that, are you?
Since when has "objectivity" been the sole measure for truth or "useful information"? Do you demand it from every source of information you consume?..from yourself?
Clearly with your incorrect preconceived perceptions not being confirmed here, you don't. That's what is "unfortunate" for you.
Yes I do expect objectivity from everyone, but that rarely happens. Both sides are equally ridiculous in my opinion, and listening to the agenda of each is nauseating.
The holier/wiser- than-thou attitudes are equally nauseating.
@@arlenegutierrez1880 Too cynical and too naive...quite an odd and self-defeating combination, since you won't learn much if you arbitrarily discount nearly everything out of hand for want of the unobtainable objective source.
Objectivity in most areas is rare...in politics it's non-existent because everyone has preferences. All we can do is apply a certain degree of doubt and fact-checking.
You seemed quite willing to accept "nauseating" lies and close you mind to new information in your post here, while attempting to assume that you are above it all by wrapping yourself in contempt for the biased views of others.
That's not objectivity...it's hypocrisy.