Outdoor Wood Boiler Worth It? With real money savings comparisons.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ธ.ค. 2019
- In this video, Alternative Heating & Supplies' very own Jeff Luff will analyze how to tell if a wood boiler is worth it! For more information on all things indoor and outdoor wood boiler OR wood furnace-related, visit Alternative Heating & Supplies Resource page linked below!
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Outdoor Wood Boiler Analysis
Things To Consider:
The average person will spend three or four times their average energy bill to pay for one of these units. For example, and this is just an example because this is what I see the average person will spend roughly in my case in this example, about $2,000 a year and I'm using rounded numbers $2,000 a year. So if you take three and a half times that someone will spend roughly $7,000 for the actual wood boiler and the parts to hook it up to their home. So that will give you a return on investment in three and a half years if you get your own wood. Okay. If you're getting your own wood, and cutting it and splitting yourself to feed that fire, you'll get you all your money back that you would have invested in paying for oil in three and a half years.
So things to consider when you're looking into buying an outside wood boiler. Now, most of these things I feel are pretty much common sense because you're gonna be cutting and splitting wood. But anyway, here are the three ways that I fuel. Okay? If you're going gonna compare it to an oil fire unit, you’re going to buy about 110 gallons of oil, which is equivalent to about a quarter wood? This is actually pretty accurate information. So to give you an idea of the apples to apple comparison, 110 gallons of oil is equivalent to one quarter would labor. Going to work to make the money to pay for the oil. Okay. That's the labor that you're going to have to do. Now if you want to have a boiler, there's a lot of work involved.
You're cutting and splitting a lot of wood and bringing it and stacking it. If don’t like to get your hands dirty, this is definitely not for you. This is hard work equipment needed, okay? If you decide to go with oil, you just need a couch and a phone. Call it in real simple, okay? Now if you want an outdoor wood boiler, these are common tools that you're going to need. Chain salts, safety equipment, log splitters, malls, axes, utility equipment, backhoes, trailers, things of that sort. Now most of us actually consider these toys. I personally love all my toys, if you will.
Out door boiler. 3 cabins and store room. 24 x 30 garage and house heated 7500 sq ft . Northern Ontario winter. 13 to 15 cords. Buy 8’ and buck to 30” and don’t split. Load 2 times every 12 hours morning and night !
Now your talking my language! Especially the part about the dishes.
Very nice presentation. I have a Portage and Main, and love the exercise that comes with cutting wood as well.
Jeff,
Loved this video. My neighbor was spending $800.00 a month on his electric bill/heat. Meanwhile even with paying $950.00 for a long truck load of wood just to top off my wood for the winter I didn't spend even close to that to hear my home. And my wife's cold blooded (I think women are always cold) keeps it at a comfy 72 degrees just like you. Great video my friend and God Bless from PA
That is awesome! Happy Heating... Jeff
Shared this with a couple of friends
Thanks for sharing. appreciate that. Jeff
Hey great video! Thanks
Hey, thanks!
Put togethor very well. If I lived a few hundred miles north of here you would've just sold me!
From someone that has had a HeatMore for 12 years. You calculations are off a little and you hinted on it. Oil fired houses at 62-65 degrees-$2k a year. Wood fired heat is at the 8 cord @70-72°. That oil bill would almost double heating that extra 8° let alone the hot water!
yep love my heatmor nothing is as cheap as wood. even if you have to buy wood its cheaper and you can have a warmer home
Using one for 11 years. Heat 2000 sq foot house 1000 sq foot trailer , 4000 sq ft shop. Abdolutely live it. North canada temps.
I have a Portage and Main wood boiler and one of my indoor radiators from Stelrad rusted out in only 3 years. I probably didn't have enough wood boiler treatement. So I flushed the system and put in new water with some boiler treatment. Is there a radiator you recommend which works well with OPEN systems?
Yes if you have access to wood and are capable of cutting and splitting it yourself, It's a GREAT value.
If you have to buy the wood cut and split, it's still a good value if wood is locally available.
Remember in time of fuel crisis, it becomes invaluable, and with a little forethought (battery backup with a couple of solar panels) power outages won't effect you.
Thanks for sharing!
hi there interesting my how things have changed and fuel oil here is over 5.00 per gallon . thanks john
This happened in 2008 as well and 10 years before that and so on. They do this to keep us on our heals. With my wood boiler I have taken the power back.
Lo0k around your local area for someone that has there own sawmill and see if you can get there slab offs for free or (a small fee I've seen as low as $5.00 a pick-up load and as high as $25.00 a pick-up load) but some people are just happy to let you haul it off and then all you need is a chain saw and nice splitting ax, and a lot of the slab offs can be burned with out splitting too. Also contact your local arborist to give you a call when they are removing a tree they tend to let people haul off all that you want or can take because it cost the arborist to haul off to the local dump, and if they chip see if you can get the limb's nice rounds 4" to 8" are great in most wood stove's and boiler's.
You are so right, it cuts the time and cost ( bars, chains, oil, gas, saws) down greatly... The more reliable you are (always getting what they have even in summer) the more you will be on there number one list to call. Even if you have enough for that year, it will save for the next year when things may be a little leaner. I get over half my wood this way and only have to split from a pile right beside my splitter. Within another year savings you can put up a metal building to do it all in and keep it dry.
By the way I started because I became a prepper but save $500 a month on electric bills a month. Heat/water for my house, greenhouse, building. I go through over 15 full cords a year
hi there a few things about slab wood it makes lots of ash and not as much heat from it . its good for wormer days john
. Correct
You had me at drinking beer, Bro.
If your listening to me, you need to go to whiskey it might make me sound Some what interesting... Thanks for putting a smile on my face!
You should put out a video of the heat exchanger hooked up to a oil furnace , you know what it look like there nothing out there that shows it plumb into your house . I see u did a white board illustration of it but actually show it plumb into the house .
Hi Jeff love my woodmaster, have had it up and running since early November. Thanks for getting me all set up. Keep up with the videos I watch them all.
Nice presentation.
I checked out your website and see you are a dealer for central boiler. I have a 9 year old E-1450 that I’ve been extremely happy with until last week. It sprung a leak in the firebox and my dealer tells me he’s not going to start a warranty claim because I’m not going to get warranty on it. I’m waiting to hear back from central boiler but all the paperwork I got with it says it has a 25 year warranty. Any suggestions?
Sorry, I'm not a Central Boiler Dealer. Good Luck. Sorry to hear about your issues. Fix it and get back to heating...
How does this compare to an indoor unit?
Hello. I was hoping you could shed some light. I have a wood boiler connected to an oil boiler. Distance one way is about 150 ft with 5 90 bends. 1 inch lines. Considering both lines that would be 300 ft with 10 90 bends. I'm losing about 50 degrees from outdoor to indoor... I installed the 2400 wood boiler circ on the outdoor. Replacing a taco 007.
Should I need another circulator?
If your losing 50 degrees, you need to find out where your losing that much heat. It is usually the underground insulation. Jeff
Check the snow on the ground. You would be able to spot where the problem is by where the snow melts first.
I run 205 feet, one way. Temp loss 2 degrees. Insulated pipe buried 7 feet. -35 c here sometimes. Using insulated pipes? Something really wrong there.
So I had an outdoor wood boiler , and I live in Canada I paid 12000.00 for the boiler and I installed everything myself the pad dug the trench installed the insulated pipe all the plumbing and the heat exchanger for the furnace and the hot water if I had to pay someone to do this I could add at least 3000.00 to that amount , now had I known I was going to burn 30 face cord of wood for 6 months of the year I never would have wasted the 12000.00 on it , and by the way I get all my wood for free . I like the system but they eat far to much wood , at 60 bucks a face cord my cost if I had to buy the wood that would be an additional 1800.00 per year in my mind it is not worth it
30 face cords??, i know a lot of folks around here who have them, and the most i have seen is 14 cords they use.
hi there i use a full cord a week but heat a lot of space . now 3 years later and fuel oil over 5.00 a gallon are you looking at it different john
Many municipalitys are cracking down on even the lightest amount of smoke. How do you overcome and deal with this ? Thanks
I have not seen a problem with this. Most people love the smell of burning wood. Also the Government want you to keep buying your fossil fuels because they make money that way. hard to tax wood.
NY wants the gasification units, just priced one since I'm on fuel oil and looking at about $5 a gallon now. The piece of mind knowing that I can go outside and load up this unit versus a 150 gallon minimum purchase up front will be priceless. By next winter I'll have one and if I find a way, I'll have it this year.
How do I add a second circulator pump please please make video and answer please
You need to use the exact same pumps and put on the opposite end of the loop. this will increase flow.
I like mine
I love mine too....
You make sense you make sense that's the truth I was the biggest dealer in the Midwest not the way to go talk
Thank you.
And the money you save on a fitness membership. Cutting and splitting wood will keep you on a routine exercise schedule.
For sure, not to mention the mental sanity of getting away from wife.... LOL
It's not hard work if you enjoy it
hi you must not have been doing it that long . john
I do a Lot of DIY projects and always consider the cost of labor if I hired someone to do it for me at around $100/hr.
I agree, but I wanted to show even with out that cost it is still a no Brainer if your not afraid of work...
Not paying taxes and enjoy cutting wood
I hope the price comes down on home heating oil. $5.98 per gallon. YES I burn wood.
I agree to bring prices down. But then again it brings out the American ingenuity.... The force our hand and some follow, but some of us find other options. My rule in life is, don't be governed by man, machine and your beliefs
Hard to believe you can cut enough wood for a full winter in 32 hours.
Working smart not hard... Most of do 4 to 6 hours at a time. I average a cord in about 2 1/2 hours.
@@AltheatsupplyLLC hi is that stacking also . john
it takes me about 40 to 42 hours to do 10 cords thats even going to cut up someones tree and bring it home.
Now do if oil costs 10x
Let's go Brandon! Crazy prices
Not really for old people , just fit people who can use a chainsaw and a spliter and a tractor and dont mind going outside freezing or getting soaked ,I guess.
Doing wood work keeps you young! My father in law cut and split wood into his 80's.
@@AltheatsupplyLLC My grandfather did farm work up until about a month before he died. Almost 90. The work keeps you fit and the fresh air healthy.
You also pay taxes on the oil, not just the money you earn.
don't forget about the additives per delivery.
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If you think an outdoor wood stove is the way to go you're crazy
Your right, It is a no Brainer...
Hell It's not that hard of work
Agreed. Only real men say that! Happy Heating!