As someone who rubbed shoulders with Red Hat employees at conferences - this did not surprise me at all. They poisoned the awesome open source space and have driven away many enthusiastic and kind hearted developers with their toxicity.
I'll never be able to wrap my head around the fact that in the real world so many companies from so many different sectors of society have actually implemented these terrible policies. When I worked as a freight stocker at a grocery store, we had to listen to an introduction talking about racism. When I worked as an administrative secretary, there was a "power and privilege" manual there, too. It's sheer madness and greed beyond anything I could have imagined.
Federal govt. has to do the same. Contracts with 3 awards will mandate 1 must be female owned and 1 must be minority but they can't be the same one. So you can't just do one female minority. Almost always just burning money. Most of the 'title XX' are setup the same way but with more or less subtlety.
Diversity, Equality, Inclusion...how does that work if you are actively excluding a person based on their colour? Whatever happened to employing the best person for the job.
The whole corporate system is corrupted like this. Not just in tech. Stories like these make me want to ditch "corporate Linux distros" and just use community efforts.
@@googIesux As I understand it, it's from a fund for open source projects. They (the "Arch guys") presented their projects and won the grant. Something about improving and streamlining their packaging system (among other things). Don't know, maybe they did sell out (we will give you this money if you do these changes), but so far there is no indication of that.
I do just that. That's why I didn't even try Fedora despite a lot of people praising it. Also wanted to test OpenSuse, but no. I'm cool with Mint, and when I have the time I'll just learn enough to switch to build my own Arch.
In my experience, I had to significantly hide my east asian sounding name to even get a single callback from tech companies. Also the one I work for has ERG groups and DEI pledges in every break room. There are some workgroups you have to watch your words around, such as "GSN" (pronouns/names group).
It comes down to voter blocks. The entire political system is designed to cater to the feminist block. And the political system will force that on to industries via regulation and throwing around grant money in order to virtue signal to the feminists.
Out of curiosity. Is anything similar happening in Microsoft ? (the reason I'm asking is EEE - maybe all this drama we see in OS world is a long-term strategy to discredit the whole movement and force US gov to only buy from "reputable sources", like... Microsoft, of course).
Even losing to the point that the entities are dissolved won't make any difference unless the individuals behind the policies are also destitute and/or imprisoned.
There were many unbelievable things I learned during an electrical apprenticeship. Being told by an instructor we were the wrong minorities for a scholarship was the most confusing part of it. That was the entire reason I signed up. At least I got a coffee mug at the orientation with the Arioch scholarship. I had to get three years of perfect attendance and exam scores to find out I don't qualify lmao. Then being told that the 'special' employees we had were DEI hires. If they aren't competent enough to protect life and property then they don't qualify to do that job do they? I had to take a pre-aptitude exam to qualify for the next aptitude exam to see how we would place on a special relations and dexterity tests. Anyway, I was forced into some awful work related Anti-White and DEI complaint issues. It was very odd and uncomfortable to be around people who were looking for racism in everything. It got so bad, to make a long story short, I did go to court and the judge tells me I should try talking about it on social media to find more help. Because why? DEI and reverse racism? That's not what I want to do with my life, I wanted to do my job building things. Well, good luck people of Earth.
Ikr? Stop looking for race in everything and guess what happens? …racism magically dissipates instantly. Why can’t they understand this? Lol it’s just spectacular
I want to point out that the judge has a lot of discretion as to how long they take to make even the smallest pretrial ruling. If a judge doesn't want to deal with a case, or doesn't want to see it go forward, they can sit on it for YEARS. And there isn't much you can do to speed things along. The facts that judges are sitting on all these lawsuits tells you which way they want it to go.
@@trucid2 Couldn't you find a new victim who specifically wants a different jurisdiction, and then when that lawsuit is going well, join the others to it?
@@xpusostomosThe judges of a circuit decide whether to join cases, and it is a decision made by a vote of all judges of that circuit. Sometimes, judges on a circuit will campaign to time that vote and which way it will go, before bringing it to a vote. See the 9th Federal Circuit.
@@xpusostomosno, most you can do at that point is request a new judge to oversee the case but it's an uphill battle to have that changed. On top of that, the other side would have to agree with varying terms and points to concede replacing the judge as well
Don't forget the entire point of the legal system is to argue every point, don't take something said in court as something the client actually believes, for example a motion to dismiss doesn't inherently mean they believe in their reasoning, it's more so just because it would be weird not to try
This might explain my incomprehensible IBM coding question recently (a lot of other Glassdoor reviews were just given fizz buzz and such). Glad I failed now.
hm. that would be a clever way to discriminate and get away with it, because afaik (private/corporate) companies are not required to publish the tests / hiring process.
That is how they discriminated at universities in the Society Union, if the examiner didn't like you, they would give you an Olympiad level math question, it could seem to only need school math to understand, but it's in fact very hard to figure out, or a proof for some theorem instead of just a problem that uses it, something most people don't try to remember
What about Microsoft with those anti-white slideshows? For doing this, these companies are dead to me, and I don't think I can ever forgive. One reason I don't like Fedora since it is connected to them. Doesn't a Red Hat mean you are a communist? I like the White Hat more, heh. Much respect to Lunduke for speaking out; I don't hear/see with mainstream media, quite true there Bryan.
Thanks Bryan. These are still huge stories and they need to be covered. I'm so glad that you are able and willing to do this. We need more people supporting this at your Locals site.
Don't get your hopes up. The Legal system is a very iffy bet as it stands when it comes to these issues. All it takes is one activist judge to shut the lawsuit down and set legal precedent. And those activist judges are very touchy about anything that upsets the progressive stack.
You are mostly correct, except that legal precedent can only be set at the Appellate level. A Circuit Court of Appeals has to confirm a lower Judge's decision before that judgement becomes precedential, although when that judgement comes before the Circuit Court of Appeals, all existing judgements in similar cases can be brought in as support or to denounce the case that is being heard. EDIT: And _then,_ the case can be brought before a trium of Appellate judges to confirm _that_ Appellate judge's decision, and then, a vote can be asked of _all_ judges at the Appellate level on that Circuit. Check the 9th Federal Circuit for some really shady stuff that happened last year in its Circuit Court of Appeals.
Let IBM and RedHat keep pushing this. They are the dumbest kind of criminal that keeps incriminating himself while already on trial. They remind me of the guy who was accused of car theft and he showed up in court in a car he just stole. 😀
Nah, those aren't racist hiring practices. It's just that they hire people based on race instead of skill... Gee, we probably need a word to describe those practices 🤔🤔🤔
If you own a small business, make sure you’re taking this into consideration, cause there’s a lot of guys that this is affecting and will affect for a long time. This isn’t going away.
In the first one, they want to get a Civil Rights Violation out of court and into arbitration. 🤣A cat can cover up what it did in the litter box, but it still stinks.
This reminds me of the case where Disney killed a lady and they tried to bring the case to arbitration because the husband agreed to a TOS that included an arbitration clause when he signed up for a free trial of Disney+.
Them not firing them is a tactical move probably coming from the lawyers. If they fire them it's a signal of guilt, and I guarantee the lawyers bringing the lawsuits would use that to argue "if you did nothing wrong, then why did you fire all of these people directly responsible and the architects of these presentations and policies?" Same thing with the policies and practices remaining in place. Changing and firing everybody, will be used to argue the guilt of these companies. They are backed into a corner now. If they do change and fire them, it will be seen as guilt, and if they don't it gives the opposition ammo to strengthen their cases. Cause it's obviously against the law in every state, and federally.
why would they care if they get found out? they never get punished worst case scenario, the company gets fined, the execs give themselves a bonus, and they increase prices for customers
That's something I have been wondering about for a while. This has to take an enormous amount of coordination and planning. Then there's how did this get the effort. Mapping it out as an exercise in symbolic logic using physics formula for work.
They probably haven't fired the people you mentioned because they're worried that the reason for dismissal would be used in court as evidence. Or they're just evil and they, as a company, don't believe they did anything wrong. 🤷♂️
Because companies that are and always ran by White People....more often than not White Men....weren't Pro-White to begin with ? It's almost as if racists are very, very stupid people.
@@AlphaNeon ...except for the fact they always hired based on race and gender....it just so happened that none of you cared when their hiring preference is White and Male.
Equality and equity are impossibilities much like perfection is impossible. There will always be the positive, neutral, and negative the more you try to put people into any given category the more they will expand into others.
IBM and RH may relocate to Russia. It's correct place for them, next to Putin. although they, probably, will be forced to develop drones and send some workers to Ukraine.
@@mrbigears7077 wokeness is not forbidden in Russia, only promoting it is forbidden. there are many companies in russia supporting wokenes, including yandex. even speaker of Gosduma (Volodin) is woke person. but Russian government successfully uses wokenes to agitate it's people against West and Ukraine.
Oh my god, this is just...Bryan, Bryan, Bryan.... Is this REALLY news? Playing around with culture war topics and giving them air? Is this REALLY what you want to talk about? Surely something sucks in Linux hardware support, or Microsoft buying Linux, or something...talk about how many FPGA fantasy computer projects are popping up these days, etc. This is NOT NEWSWORTHY FOR TECH CHANNEL.
he does topics related to tech. this is definitively tech related. so yes, he should cover it. its not limited to hardware and software, its everything about tech, and if they're cutting people out based upon something they have no control over, thats _bad_. and needs more eyes on it.
@@act.13.41 That's a really cowardly way of saying you can't actually refute the accusation that Lunduke spends a lot of time crying about how unfair it is to be a White Man because PoC and LGBTQ+ persons have the audacity to refuse to be treated as less; but resort to this non-sequitor nonsense due to said cowardice.
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_Any_ company with a DEI policy needs to face discrimination lawsuits.
DEI = Division, Exclusion and Inequality
And then they need to face the wall.
As someone who rubbed shoulders with Red Hat employees at conferences - this did not surprise me at all.
They poisoned the awesome open source space and have driven away many enthusiastic and kind hearted developers with their toxicity.
Seems like by design, the dark worms burrowed in deep and then grew
I'll never be able to wrap my head around the fact that in the real world so many companies from so many different sectors of society have actually implemented these terrible policies. When I worked as a freight stocker at a grocery store, we had to listen to an introduction talking about racism. When I worked as an administrative secretary, there was a "power and privilege" manual there, too. It's sheer madness and greed beyond anything I could have imagined.
My husband works for the Cook County (Chicago) water department, and they have to award contracts to a certain percent of minority business owners.
This has been the case since the civil rights acts have been passed. We must repeal the 20th century.
Honestly disturbing, but not surprising (from MKE)
Globally speaking, fair skin is a minority condition. Let that sink in at your next DEI meeting.
Federal govt. has to do the same. Contracts with 3 awards will mandate 1 must be female owned and 1 must be minority but they can't be the same one. So you can't just do one female minority. Almost always just burning money.
Most of the 'title XX' are setup the same way but with more or less subtlety.
What is minority owned? One share?
Diversity, Equality, Inclusion...how does that work if you are actively excluding a person based on their colour? Whatever happened to employing the best person for the job.
It never existed
Inclusion is just code for anyone but whites
You mean: Division, Exclusion and Inequality?
The whole corporate system is corrupted like this. Not just in tech. Stories like these make me want to ditch "corporate Linux distros" and just use community efforts.
Yep DEI and ESG have ruined them completely.
Arch just got some huge amount of money fron "sovereign tech fund." Which has been a bad omen in the past.
@@googIesux As I understand it, it's from a fund for open source projects. They (the "Arch guys") presented their projects and won the grant. Something about improving and streamlining their packaging system (among other things).
Don't know, maybe they did sell out (we will give you this money if you do these changes), but so far there is no indication of that.
I do just that. That's why I didn't even try Fedora despite a lot of people praising it. Also wanted to test OpenSuse, but no. I'm cool with Mint, and when I have the time I'll just learn enough to switch to build my own Arch.
I'm just going to sit here quietly, waiting for you to realise just what's going on in the kernel development space.
What if, and I'm going out on a limb here, but what if tech companies only focused on making a good product?
Das raciss.
I dunno... maybe
It just might work😊.
THAT'S JUST CRAZY TALK!!!
I believe that's about to happen in one month :)
In my experience, I had to significantly hide my east asian sounding name to even get a single callback from tech companies.
Also the one I work for has ERG groups and DEI pledges in every break room. There are some workgroups you have to watch your words around, such as "GSN" (pronouns/names group).
"The system doesn't allow racism? Then the system is racist!"
Why is there never an anti male discrimination suit, even though it's much more prominent? This is one thing I find surreal about the human psyche.
There are, you just don't hear about the huge 150million settlements they get after being professionally destroyed for years.
@fatman6660 I'm not talking about false accusations.
It comes down to voter blocks. The entire political system is designed to cater to the feminist block. And the political system will force that on to industries via regulation and throwing around grant money in order to virtue signal to the feminists.
The purpose of the system is what it does.
@@fatman6660 I'm not talking about accusations
They are, and create, who they claim to fight against by sowing division and spreading lies.
Out of curiosity. Is anything similar happening in Microsoft ? (the reason I'm asking is EEE - maybe all this drama we see in OS world is a long-term strategy to discredit the whole movement and force US gov to only buy from "reputable sources", like... Microsoft, of course).
Yep!
Same with SAP and every other company hosting FLINTA only events/internships.
It happens at every company now days, everyone has race or gender based quotas…
My bet is 100% it is
Of course! What is Microsofts ESG score ? Nuff said
I remember in the 1990s when this was starting to happen. These DEI policies have destroyed many careers and opportunities.
Even losing to the point that the entities are dissolved won't make any difference unless the individuals behind the policies are also destitute and/or imprisoned.
Look up preference cascade or hypernormalisation.
I think it will unwind quite quickly, actually.
There were many unbelievable things I learned during an electrical apprenticeship.
Being told by an instructor we were the wrong minorities for a scholarship was the most confusing part of it. That was the entire reason I signed up. At least I got a coffee mug at the orientation with the Arioch scholarship. I had to get three years of perfect attendance and exam scores to find out I don't qualify lmao.
Then being told that the 'special' employees we had were DEI hires.
If they aren't competent enough to protect life and property then they don't qualify to do that job do they?
I had to take a pre-aptitude exam to qualify for the next aptitude exam to see how we would place on a special relations and dexterity tests.
Anyway, I was forced into some awful work related Anti-White and DEI complaint issues.
It was very odd and uncomfortable to be around people who were looking for racism in everything.
It got so bad, to make a long story short, I did go to court and the judge tells me I should try talking about it on social media to find more help.
Because why? DEI and reverse racism?
That's not what I want to do with my life, I wanted to do my job building things.
Well, good luck people of Earth.
Ikr? Stop looking for race in everything and guess what happens? …racism magically dissipates instantly. Why can’t they understand this? Lol it’s just spectacular
It's not reverse racism. It's just ordinary racism.
Come work in Indonesia they need lots of building and electricity work plus well paid.
I want to point out that the judge has a lot of discretion as to how long they take to make even the smallest pretrial ruling. If a judge doesn't want to deal with a case, or doesn't want to see it go forward, they can sit on it for YEARS. And there isn't much you can do to speed things along. The facts that judges are sitting on all these lawsuits tells you which way they want it to go.
I'm guessing you can go to another jurisdiction if it's unreasonable
@xpusostomos Not if you already have a lawsuit going. You're stuck with no recourse.
@@trucid2 Couldn't you find a new victim who specifically wants a different jurisdiction, and then when that lawsuit is going well, join the others to it?
@@xpusostomosThe judges of a circuit decide whether to join cases, and it is a decision made by a vote of all judges of that circuit. Sometimes, judges on a circuit will campaign to time that vote and which way it will go, before bringing it to a vote. See the 9th Federal Circuit.
@@xpusostomosno, most you can do at that point is request a new judge to oversee the case but it's an uphill battle to have that changed. On top of that, the other side would have to agree with varying terms and points to concede replacing the judge as well
Tip if the iceberg
Just wait and see what starts coming out in less than one month ;)
Don't forget the entire point of the legal system is to argue every point, don't take something said in court as something the client actually believes, for example a motion to dismiss doesn't inherently mean they believe in their reasoning, it's more so just because it would be weird not to try
This might explain my incomprehensible IBM coding question recently (a lot of other Glassdoor reviews were just given fizz buzz and such). Glad I failed now.
hm. that would be a clever way to discriminate and get away with it, because afaik (private/corporate) companies are not required to publish the tests / hiring process.
That is how they discriminated at universities in the Society Union, if the examiner didn't like you, they would give you an Olympiad level math question, it could seem to only need school math to understand, but it's in fact very hard to figure out, or a proof for some theorem instead of just a problem that uses it, something most people don't try to remember
What about Microsoft with those anti-white slideshows? For doing this, these companies are dead to me, and I don't think I can ever forgive. One reason I don't like Fedora since it is connected to them. Doesn't a Red Hat mean you are a communist? I like the White Hat more, heh. Much respect to Lunduke for speaking out; I don't hear/see with mainstream media, quite true there Bryan.
You are on point good sir :D!!!
Thanks Bryan.
These are still huge stories and they need to be covered. I'm so glad that you are able and willing to do this. We need more people supporting this at your Locals site.
Don't get your hopes up. The Legal system is a very iffy bet as it stands when it comes to these issues. All it takes is one activist judge to shut the lawsuit down and set legal precedent. And those activist judges are very touchy about anything that upsets the progressive stack.
Yeah, to put the problem another way judges all belong to the same social class that brought about these horrible practices in the first place.
You are mostly correct, except that legal precedent can only be set at the Appellate level. A Circuit Court of Appeals has to confirm a lower Judge's decision before that judgement becomes precedential, although when that judgement comes before the Circuit Court of Appeals, all existing judgements in similar cases can be brought in as support or to denounce the case that is being heard.
EDIT: And _then,_ the case can be brought before a trium of Appellate judges to confirm _that_ Appellate judge's decision, and then, a vote can be asked of _all_ judges at the Appellate level on that Circuit.
Check the 9th Federal Circuit for some really shady stuff that happened last year in its Circuit Court of Appeals.
@@davidgoodnow269 And in the insane case that this is seen as not illegal it will open the option to discriminate based on race
Omg... who needs to watch the new black mirror episode? We are dang gum living in it!
Let IBM and RedHat keep pushing this. They are the dumbest kind of criminal that keeps incriminating himself while already on trial. They remind me of the guy who was accused of car theft and he showed up in court in a car he just stole. 😀
Nah, those aren't racist hiring practices. It's just that they hire people based on race instead of skill... Gee, we probably need a word to describe those practices 🤔🤔🤔
*sounds of file deletions intensify*
If you own a small business, make sure you’re taking this into consideration, cause there’s a lot of guys that this is affecting and will affect for a long time. This isn’t going away.
Why am i not surprised
Time to cancel IBM and red hat
By IBM ADMITTING that they are violating the law, can you use SELF-INCRIMINATION to condemn and fine them?
I was excited until I saw the venue: St. Louis County. The deck is stacked against the plaintiffs.
Yea, that slide deck sure was attacked against the plaintiffs!
In the first one, they want to get a Civil Rights Violation out of court and into arbitration. 🤣A cat can cover up what it did in the litter box, but it still stinks.
The results of these cases affect not those currently working at these companies, but anyone who applied for a job with them.
DEI is actually Division, Exclusion and Inequality.
I wish this was true.
Multiculturalism/Multiracialism is unnatural
This reminds me of the case where Disney killed a lady and they tried to bring the case to arbitration because the husband agreed to a TOS that included an arbitration clause when he signed up for a free trial of Disney+.
Them not firing them is a tactical move probably coming from the lawyers. If they fire them it's a signal of guilt, and I guarantee the lawyers bringing the lawsuits would use that to argue "if you did nothing wrong, then why did you fire all of these people directly responsible and the architects of these presentations and policies?" Same thing with the policies and practices remaining in place. Changing and firing everybody, will be used to argue the guilt of these companies. They are backed into a corner now. If they do change and fire them, it will be seen as guilt, and if they don't it gives the opposition ammo to strengthen their cases. Cause it's obviously against the law in every state, and federally.
Everytime I think about using Fedora again you remind me why I cant....
Thank you for fighting the woke virus.
Surely those critical race theory lessons that all those guys had in university would stand to protect them in these courts.
How do these people think they aren't going to get found out?
why would they care if they get found out? they never get punished
worst case scenario, the company gets fined, the execs give themselves a bonus, and they increase prices for customers
They don't think they're doing anything wrong. They believe that they are on the right side, fighting the good fight.
Thanks for reporting sir.
It's nice to know these cases are going on, so we can keep our eyes open for news.
Yuotube disappeared my comment saying thank you for reporting about this....lolxD
I don't get how they infected unix.
Just how they infected everything else
By other people's tolerance turned into their intolerance
That's something I have been wondering about for a while. This has to take an enormous amount of coordination and planning. Then there's how did this get the effort. Mapping it out as an exercise in symbolic logic using physics formula for work.
Division Exclusion Intolerance
This behavior is totally unhinged. I hope the corporate and external attorneys that reviewed and approved these policies are disbarred forever.
They probably haven't fired the people you mentioned because they're worried that the reason for dismissal would be used in court as evidence.
Or they're just evil and they, as a company, don't believe they did anything wrong. 🤷♂️
Neil DeGrass Tyson : "Linus eez blick".... Probably. 😂.
I'd love to see more pro-white companies.
I would love to see companies that just hire based on skill and experience. Leave out race, gender, sexuality, and ancestry.
Because companies that are and always ran by White People....more often than not White Men....weren't Pro-White to begin with ? It's almost as if racists are very, very stupid people.
@@AlphaNeon ...except for the fact they always hired based on race and gender....it just so happened that none of you cared when their hiring preference is White and Male.
@@AlphaNeon >furry
Ya, quite true there 20x20 and also to boycott these companies as well.
I always said that the Woke Left is the new fascism. Left my company because of regular DEI briefings.
Crazy AF that this is happening, hope they win the lawsuits
Write a letter to your congressman, that's a good career opportunity.
And who lobbies those congressmen and sponsors their campaigns? You or big-tech?
Equality and equity are impossibilities much like perfection is impossible.
There will always be the positive, neutral, and negative the more you try to put people into any given category the more they will expand into others.
do they the legal system will ignore them. do the rules not apply. the employees have to follow the rules, at least those under C-suite level have to.
There have been similar quotas in Canadian tech companies for interview shortlisting
Those kind of quotas seem common in a lot of business’s now.. diversity quote is often quoted
Please someone make a based operating system. PLEASE!!!
the toxics of the future will call themselves toxic positivists - mark twain probably.
Are these slides real tho?
Nothing is a slam dunk.
Don't think you should be joking about someones name (Booboo) considering the context... but yes I think this video is insightful.
Great coverage, thanks!
Its the same with male/female/other.
Free Red Hat!
Can confirm😉
IBM and RH may relocate to Russia. It's correct place for them, next to Putin. although they, probably, will be forced to develop drones and send some workers to Ukraine.
nope, wokeness is not allowed there
Do you think Russia has more tolerance for anti white behavior like this?
@@mrbigears7077 wokeness is not forbidden in Russia, only promoting it is forbidden. there are many companies in russia supporting wokenes, including yandex. even speaker of Gosduma (Volodin) is woke person.
but Russian government successfully uses wokenes to agitate it's people against West and Ukraine.
Unfortunately Russia has no enough black, asians, mexicans and LGBT to fill IBM"s quotas.
Hmmm
I really really dislike lunduke...but glad someone is covering this.
Good
Woke at Work!
Dill 😂
Woke diversity can programing ?
LoL ! WoW !
or did they hire them for the colourful decoration ?
Oh my god, this is just...Bryan, Bryan, Bryan....
Is this REALLY news? Playing around with culture war topics and giving them air? Is this REALLY what you want to talk about? Surely something sucks in Linux hardware support, or Microsoft buying Linux, or something...talk about how many FPGA fantasy computer projects are popping up these days, etc.
This is NOT NEWSWORTHY FOR TECH CHANNEL.
I bet if the racism was against black people and sexism against women, you would be singing a much different tune. Go find your shitty FPGA news.
Somebody needs a nap.
This is news that's been destroying Linux and FOSS generally for years and every other outlet ignores it.
he does topics related to tech. this is definitively tech related.
so yes, he should cover it.
its not limited to hardware and software, its everything about tech, and if they're cutting people out based upon something they have no control over, thats _bad_. and needs more eyes on it.
@@act.13.41 That's a really cowardly way of saying you can't actually refute the accusation that Lunduke spends a lot of time crying about how unfair it is to be a White Man because PoC and LGBTQ+ persons have the audacity to refuse to be treated as less; but resort to this non-sequitor nonsense due to said cowardice.