cinna...this is disgusting. ‼️GACHA RANT‼️

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  • @Lunar66730
    @Lunar66730 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7855

    I like how she's getting called out for s3xualizing characters, but people who do worse and who are just as popular as her don't get called out.

    • @_Official.x
      @_Official.x 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +924

      Yeah, But its the fact that her content changed drastically. Her content went from cutesy and sweet to sexualising a complete meant to be childs character. As they said in the video that it’d be fine if it was their very own oc but its not thats why we make it a big deal

    • @chiyoyui
      @chiyoyui 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +241

      but that doesnt mean u should do it too just because other people do it and their viewers are "fine" w it

    • @Lunar66730
      @Lunar66730 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      @@chiyoyui not my point, but ok

    • @renthewizard
      @renthewizard 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +147

      There's some others that do get called out? Does she really have to be an exception just because she did lesser evil than others did?
      TLDR : i hate the "omg others did worse" point

    • @Lunar66730
      @Lunar66730 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      @@renthewizard It's not an exception. It's just surprising that others don't get called out. I'm not defending what she did. Anyway, I have more important things to do, than to worry about things that don't concern me. Peace✌️

  • @RayPoggers.
    @RayPoggers. 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2982

    As a person who left and rejoined the gacha community. I still dont understand why amazing gacha creators do bad things. But thank god this one apologized.. Its joever for me 🦅🦅🦅

    • @kittyt.s.p
      @kittyt.s.p 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Because it gets views ;-;

    • @Mal_Productions_Was_Taken
      @Mal_Productions_Was_Taken 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      atleast they apologized🙂🙂 (thats what you said atleast)

    • @planettenko
      @planettenko 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      dude same!!! i left in like 2021 after the lentotally stuff, and i only rejoined like two months ago, and i see that it hasnt changed at all

    • @RayPoggers.
      @RayPoggers. 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Bro how tf did i get 400+ likes in 3 weeks

    • @SolarSunshineYT
      @SolarSunshineYT 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Now u have 666 likes

  • @ur_local_pookie108
    @ur_local_pookie108 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +556

    so alot of small to big gacha creators trace but straght as cinna does it everyone freaks out 💀

    • @FiorapoopWendy
      @FiorapoopWendy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Srsly tho.

    • @kias_dungeon
      @kias_dungeon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Fiona-Pinklygirlgamerbro this was before that

    • @kias_dungeon
      @kias_dungeon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Fiona-Pinklygirlgamer then why are you saying that here…?😭

    • @kias_dungeon
      @kias_dungeon หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @Fiona-Pinklygirlgamer who tf is that??

    • @ur_local_pookie108
      @ur_local_pookie108 หลายเดือนก่อน

      girly who the hell is that@Fiona-Pinklygirlgamer 😭

  • @ItstherealHarleyz_world
    @ItstherealHarleyz_world 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    Cinna isn't even cinnamonroll anymore...

  • @flookkt
    @flookkt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1242

    bro the fact she sexualizes cinnamoroll flew right over my head. i havent really watched most of the sexual videos but ive seen one and i payed no attention to it. but ur so right like sexualizing a character that is made for kids is disgusting

    • @kanakuzuka
      @kanakuzuka  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +190

      IKKKK AND LITERALLY HER WHOLE AUDIENCE IS LONG😭😭

    • @Miki_BOOM-
      @Miki_BOOM- 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

      @@kanakuzuka Don't forget ITS A MALE DOG?!?! Ew..

    • @KittyfluffyOwO
      @KittyfluffyOwO 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      Especially he is not her character and sometimes is a child he was a child in he’s show ☹️

    • @Miki_BOOM-
      @Miki_BOOM- 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      AND SANRIO IS MADE FOR/TARGETED TO CHILDREN AND TEENS (Adults sometimes) @@KittyfluffyOwO

    • @yashiro1875
      @yashiro1875 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@kanakuzuka She never said it was for children

  • @ANONYMOUS_N4_LAP
    @ANONYMOUS_N4_LAP 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1418

    Now guys, lets all think about this as a summary:
    Cinna follows trends to gain popularity, most likely because she wants to increase her sub count. Nothing wrong with that. Though, they are quite inappropriate for a number of the short vids she posted. She also traced and never gave credits to the video 'Miku [oo ee oo]' BUT (For anyone who deosn't know) She didnt give credits because she couldnt find the original creator of it, since it was shown by many other people, therefore came to her such decision. She's already apologised to the creator like advised to the audience, and not to them. She may have been 'caught' of tracing by Floatendy (idk if I spelled it right) but Cinna already gave credits to these vids as its necessary.
    Now, for my opinion;
    People think Cinna's written apology was very sassy, but if we think of it of a more "profusely apologetic" child voice, it does sound like she was sorry. Honestly, my mom hates texting just because of this; we don't know of the tone were going to sound like to other ppl, or how were going to hear the tone of others. We should put a number of perspectives in reading messages so we don't misunderstand. Just saying, because I see this as a problem when it comes to people who are judgemental.
    IF THIS TIP HELPS, THEN IM GLAD IT DID. IF NOT, THEN STILL THANKS FOR READING THIS.
    [its big so that it sounds improtant :)]
    Edit: This many likes- thx for it and all :D
    Another edit: HOLY HECK- thanks for 1k likes, I see this comment is getting too popular.

    • @haruhikari2424
      @haruhikari2424 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

      I understand not being able to find original source of things, but you don't double down by saying it's not a big deal to trace someone hard work. Now I don't know how old she is, and her age was probably the reason why she acted childish in her original response, but even then, I'm sure she heard why tracing is bad

    • @user-qg9ir9jm8q
      @user-qg9ir9jm8q 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      The how does she managed the trace but doesn't know who the owner is

    • @LittleSealPupper
      @LittleSealPupper 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      My thing is that tracing has been a huge problem in the gacha community for YEARS!!! She claims to also have been in the gaca community for YEARS!!! Therefore she 99.9% KNEW tracing was wrong but DID IT ANYWAYS!!! She's using "not knowing" as an excuse and people are actually believing her. Also, the thing with texting is that you can read and re-read your text before you make it public to see if your tone is what you want it to be. There are also literal tone indicators meant to do that. Tone indicators have been around for years as well. And even if she didn't trace, she's still a stuck-up little kid. She likes to use her sub-count as a shield/excuse to look down on smaller creators. She once said "I'm still famous and there's *nothing* you can do about it." There is no situation where saying that would be okay. I honestly hate her.

    • @haruhikari2424
      @haruhikari2424 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @Project_Gods While this isn't about Cinna specifically but another Gachatuber got caught tracing and instead saying "Yes, I traced." she also tried to pay it off, and she also tried to guilt trip everyone by saying things like I'm always exhausted from making art for my fans. What's even worse was her fans called the people who were mad at the tracing dramatic 🤯

    • @ANONYMOUS_N4_LAP
      @ANONYMOUS_N4_LAP 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@haruhikari2424 Guys, I'm just saying my opinion, when did this come to a convo abt it? All I just wanted to say was my summary of the whole drama and my percievement of it. Is that alright? Are we on good terms? [Don't think of this sarcasticly. I swear I don't want to get the wrong impression on ya'll guys, just like I said in my first comment.] I understand the Cinna drama, but I did not know that all the so called free bases were actually not free till I did some digging. Is it all right if we come on good terms??

  • @Wiiiispa
    @Wiiiispa วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Bro wtf is with hating everything that can be sexualised? Maybe you can not understand this, but being sexual is really alright. Guys like things like Hazbin hotel and then say "um you sexualise smth" GUYS THERE'S NO ACTUAL SEX ANYWHERE. If you are not comfortable with SLIGHT sexualising just don't whatch it. I understand when it's really sexualised so far but what's up with y'all being so cruel with everything which is a BIT connected with this theme? I fully respect people who think sex is disguisting - I don't I think it's alright, but it's my poisition and there are other people with this and other positions and it makes me hella sick how some of ones who thing sex is disguisting say others must respect them AND DO NOT RESPECT OTHERS THEMSELVES. there was no any offence to anyone in her videous. If you don't feel confortable with this theme again just DON'T WHATCH.
    It just becomes a circus like so many people start being hated for basically one slight sex theme used. If you want others to respect you, respect others yourself and stop hating basically everyone it's disguisting.

  • @alicecharmander8035
    @alicecharmander8035 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I agree with you on some parts of the video, while on others I have something to say
    1) THE MIKU TREND
    Even if I *do* agree with you when you say her apology for tracing almost can't be called an actual apology for how blend it was, I guess that was the one time I'd "forgive" her because the miku trend was very famous in that period of time and even if she didn't credit (I did not check if she did or not), it woukd have been obvious it wasn't hers, when I saw that video I didn't really think much of it, I simply thought Cinnamon was doing the trend like everyone else.
    (I'm just clarifying, I'm not trying to justify her)
    2) THE POSES
    I *do* agree that it's kinda gross that she uses her human form of cinnamon roll (who is a character meant for kids) to express those kind of lewd things, I'm afraid to say... there really isn't anything to say.
    Unfortunately liberty of expression exists and if we don't agree with the way she shows something, well, I guess we can just click it off and forget about it.
    In these situations, making these type of videos can be useful for others, but at the same time, it puts curiousity on people.
    It's like your "sponsoring" her. She'll just become more famous.
    So.... we can ignore it.
    As for the kids, well, technically, it isn't her fault. I guess there are just a bunch of parents who leave their kids to technology too soon, and I know that I sound like "good ol' grandpa" when I say this type of stuff, but.. instruments such as PCs, tablets and phones are pure weapons against children.
    For kids not to watch this type of stuff when they still can't understand what's the wrong in it, they'd need a parent or a relative to be present enough to catch 'em looking at this stuff and sitting there with them, pausing the vid and explaining to them why it's wrong.

  • @its_gamingbunny4900
    @its_gamingbunny4900 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1618

    Ok can we all just move on with our lives and stop bullying Cinna, she apologized, she explained the situation, cmon everyone, the damage has already been done, let's stop with all this drama.

    • @Maxi_Bona
      @Maxi_Bona 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +314

      THANKS!! People are so dramatic, they can't mind their own business

    • @strawkat9405
      @strawkat9405 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +405

      This was posted 6 days ago befor the apology, please check when videos are posted

    • @RrAiKimi
      @RrAiKimi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +279

      I saw the apology vid, the tracing was explained, but the sexual things aren’t explained..

    • @booyen514
      @booyen514 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      Poor cinnamon🥺😢

    • @kanakuzuka
      @kanakuzuka  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +410

      I know, this vid was posted before her good apology. Ty🩷

  • @MolaniChan
    @MolaniChan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +385

    I know it's a small thing, but as a part japanese person- seeing her sexualize, get the characters animal, and even straight up lying about the art she creates- *sigh* it's very disheartening. I don't like it when culture is interpreted in a way that's so invasive. It be one thing if it was their own oc that was sexualized, but it's not. Also 1st of all, cinna is a doggo not a rabbit. Second, there's no need to sexualize it. Third, I agree with you- she knew tracing was wrong.

    • @_krXmby
      @_krXmby 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Did you just...sigh in a comment? I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but it kinda bothered me when i saw it.

    • @MolaniChan
      @MolaniChan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      @@_krXmby yes

    • @JelloRaccoon
      @JelloRaccoon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      wait, Cinna is a Dog???!!

    • @MolaniChan
      @MolaniChan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@JelloRaccoon yes

    • @_krXmby
      @_krXmby 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@JelloRaccoon Specifically a puppy

  • @Daniplys_catzloku-
    @Daniplys_catzloku- 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I mean some is inappropriate but it’s her acc and she changed her acc to mitsuki for a reason, she can do what she wants with her acc and I don’t have a problem with that. It’s fine if you don’t like what she’s doing but it’s always best to scroll, and hopefully she stops tracing but who’s gonna stop it, like half of the Gacha community does it and it feels like we only target her. There’s also a LOT of Gacha creators that s3xualizing their oc but we only focus on mitsuki doing it?! Ik it’s wrong for her to do that for cinnamonroll, but what abt the rest of the Gacha community?! 2:10 AND STFU LIKE SHE CAN DO THE DAMN TREND IF SHE WANTS U AINT HER PARENT. Like bro stop being a hater?! And don’t call her a female dog like leave her the fck alone?! Big deal shes wearing clothes for a trend, (REMINDER: YT IF FOR 13 AND OLDER) so what’s the problem, you’ve never seen a Gacha TH-camr wear that stuff:/ like your only vid is u hating on her

  • @-laylaeditz-8850
    @-laylaeditz-8850 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +149

    If your gonna call out this talented gacha creator then could you please call out more popular people who are doing WAY worse?!

    • @user-nw7ci5dr1o
      @user-nw7ci5dr1o 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Yes your right. But it's hard to find information. You could get attacked for misunderstanding those content creators. Don't just comment here if your gonna say that. Well. If you want them to call out these people who do way worse than Cinna. maybe you should help them find information so you could get what YOU want.

    • @milka8569
      @milka8569 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      are you dumb? so since there are way worse that just makes what shes doing okay?? bro you people always validate people who do bad shit because you like their editing or bc theyre nice its messed up

    • @halynia8646
      @halynia8646 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      i mean i guess those are already called out like LenTotally who you-know-what-he-did and other youtubers who did similar things as him, so I guess it is more difficult. the person would need to really, really, really deep their research to do so

    • @lilliblossom5689
      @lilliblossom5689 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-nw7ci5dr1oI literally see them every day with so much info.

    • @ThisFoxdeservesaOscar
      @ThisFoxdeservesaOscar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      literally. there is people actually DOING gacha heat and the creator of this vid wants to sit here and talk about what shes doing...

  • @Melatonin.t
    @Melatonin.t 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Genuinely, are you 12 or something? I don't mean this in a bad way, but if you are, get ready because the internet is much worse than a chibi character dancing like that. Ever heard of rule 34? Yeah nothing escapes that, NSFW artists are everywhere and I think that's something everyone should know. For the tracing part, the Miku thing is a literal trend, the gacha part isn't tracing, the Miku drawing might be but even so she's apologized for that part (the gacha is part of the trend and different as hell when looking at the lines, it's not traced). "Cinamoroll is for kids" you really don't wanna find out about rule 34. Seriously. "Lyrics are too explicit" unless you're younger than 15 you'll understand that barely any songs are family friendly, specially surrounding the art community, it's either explicit, extremely depressing, disturbing or childish, you'll understand they won't put old Mc Donald had a farm on an animation video with an audience older than 13. She's not commiting any crime, this rant is kind of unnecessary because for rants like these artists have quitted communities for a long time, think about it/nm
    By the way, it's not even close to the cinamoroll original character, should we also shame people who dress as a sexy Pikachu for Halloween? The answer is no, if you really want them to lose their fame maybe ignore it? I don't even know who this gachatuber is but I'm tired of pointless drama.

    • @treenawall3098
      @treenawall3098 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Exactly

    • @unkown_404
      @unkown_404 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Bro ur right about rule 34 thingy
      Even child friendly game or shows got Sexualized by nsfw artist.

    • @Melatonin.t
      @Melatonin.t 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@jtopc2116 It'd be hella weird if cinnamoroll was a child character, but as far as I'm informed the whole sanrio gang have no age?

    • @unkown_404
      @unkown_404 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@jtopc2116 yeah they should've have put in it, but some Creator who put "this channel has 18+ content" the viewer Will still watching it even though some of them is a minors.
      People just tend every warning or they just careless but that's great idea

    • @Tail_sez
      @Tail_sez 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A lot of people in the Gacha community are literal children, which explains why there's so much drama over stuff like this.

  • @bunsqn
    @bunsqn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    The whole sexualizing thing, just because it's a bodysuit doesn't mean it's sexual lol, and also cinnamoroll isn't just meant for kids so stop getting so mad about it and also this is TH-cam not youtube kids, you need to be over 13 to use youtube so people should know what they're watching and bodysuits AREN'T heat. I feel like you exaddurated the whole bodysuit thing and that "trend" wasn't that sexual either. Also I feel like you're putting a bit too much hate on cinnamoroll for the trends she is doing, like let her do a trend if she wants, like if someone doesn't like it they can scroll or something. But the whole tracing thing was agreeable.

    • @JecjecKoolitKidsChannel
      @JecjecKoolitKidsChannel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Her audience might be kids though

    • @Yamatoisaguycryaboutit
      @Yamatoisaguycryaboutit 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Isn’t her oc 11?

    • @Wimblyy
      @Wimblyy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Yamatoisaguycryaboutit her oc is literally like 16🤓💀💀

    • @Yamatoisaguycryaboutit
      @Yamatoisaguycryaboutit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Wimblyy still a minor🤷🏾‍♀️

    • @Wimblyy
      @Wimblyy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Yamatoisaguycryaboutit ye

  • @Zvmby
    @Zvmby 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    0:17 it seems like the photo she used to trace was a template, maybe it was a free to use template? Some artists like using templates to improve their art. Im not picking anyones side i am just stating this, if I am wrong please let me know.

  • @noonie_.X
    @noonie_.X 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    1:18
    she is NOT sexualizing cinnamoroll. reason: his character is INSPIRED by cinnamoroll and his character is NOT cinnamoroll. What I mean by this is that to sexualize a character you HAVE to use the character, if your character is inspired by another character it is impossible for it to be sexualized, if it is true that the character that she was inspired by is from a company called Sanrio, in That can get you into trouble but here she is not sexualizing it. YES, I know that now her name is Mitsuki and everything and it seems right to me since she explains in one of her videos that the character she was inspired by being from Sanrio can be copyrighted and what happens with that? If she makes money with her videos, TH-cam is not going to give it to her but to Sanrio. Oh i forget to say that her channel IS NOT for kids so if one kid see her videos is a problem of the parents NO a problem from cinnamoroll (only my opinion!!) By the way, can you make a video of what's happening on your channel? (they hacked her)

  • @KoKoRosie
    @KoKoRosie 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +211

    Thank you so much for mentioning the cinnamon sexualisation the pose she also was doing is actually inappropriate and can't believe ppl are praising her for making such a thing like that and the car version one she didn't even bother giving a warning and she should be well aware it's not appropriate for her viewer range 8-13, and the fact it's a trend does not ignore the fact she is doing s3x poses

    • @mintygacha7759
      @mintygacha7759 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Because many people do it why you acting up over a character literally it’s not real many artists do that and her videos are realy cute her videos are inspired by other trends you don’t make sense.

    • @mintygacha7759
      @mintygacha7759 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      And 8-13 year olds have a choice to watch it.

    • @windowsvistafan443
      @windowsvistafan443 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mintygacha7759bro are u dumb
      What if a kid is scrolling through her fyp and sees this?

    • @windowsvistafan443
      @windowsvistafan443 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      ​@@mintygacha7759and js bc its a "trend" or "everyone is making it" you have a CHOICE to make it or not.
      Get some help

    • @mintygacha7759
      @mintygacha7759 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@windowsvistafan443 you need help its her choice to make the trend. But it’s no okay to bully a person for a trend you need help

  • @maysimcheang9641
    @maysimcheang9641 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +242

    I know this is disappointing, but- I recently watched her last video just now. She said she gave credit to other people for her other videos, but not the Miku trend one. She already deleted the video and explained that she didn't know who the owner was and decided to post the video without credits. She already knew her mistake and what she did was wrong, but doesn't mean you can target her just like that. It was one time. Just because she was popular and stuff and she made one mistake, doesn't mean that you can just post something like this.

    • @Yourebeautiful341
      @Yourebeautiful341 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      Exactly! People are overreacting and calling her horrible and disgusting! It's true that she did something wrong, but for example let's look at Hatsune rou, SHE FREAKING GROOMED A CHILD, which is WAY WORSE, but she has been treated the same way as chinna is being treated rn

    • @Yourebeautiful341
      @Yourebeautiful341 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      (I forgot to mention this is my personal opinion)

    • @XMxmoo_.
      @XMxmoo_. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      “One” ok.. but a big one.. its not about how much its about how big the mistake is.

    • @kanakuzuka
      @kanakuzuka  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

      I personally think CINNA is at no level to hatsune rue. What hatsune rue did left me speechless, CINNA is no where near that. This is my opinion, I still love and support her. And yes, people may use the same words as me to describe hatsune rou, but I never said hatsune rue was at the same level.

    • @its_gamingbunny4900
      @its_gamingbunny4900 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I completely agree!

  • @sandeepvarma5899
    @sandeepvarma5899 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    2:10 I didn’t know Cinna had a second mom 💀

  • @go_kys_now
    @go_kys_now หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    0:24 she isn’t copying, this one is literally a fucking trend.
    0:55 there was no sass in that.. name me a gachatuber who doesn’t trace. smh.
    1:34 yeah so? It’s still her oc. she can do whatever she wants.
    1:40 no? cinnamoroll is meant for all ages. not JUST children.
    1:49 it’s literally just pixels but sure
    1:58 1st of all, just don’t watch it then? 2nd of all, if you didn’t notice, she’s dancing
    2:04 “just cause it’s a trend doesn’t mean you need to join it” like you said, it’s a trend. she WANTS to do it. it’s her choice if she wants to.
    2:12 cinna is a oc that likes cinnamoroll and stuff. they aren’t ACTUALLY cinnamoroll.
    2:26 that’s just a trend, Jesus Christ.

    • @azeruplsmarryme
      @azeruplsmarryme หลายเดือนก่อน

      my exact thoughts

    • @FlowersMM2
      @FlowersMM2 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Omg for real this not cinna but this girl is gonna piss me off

    • @missfariequeen
      @missfariequeen 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Fr

    • @Con_Meo123
      @Con_Meo123 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      then she should credit

    • @Con_Meo123
      @Con_Meo123 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      but not for underage

  • @notpixar.studi0623
    @notpixar.studi0623 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +357

    'I worked for 2 days'
    Imagine how long the *REAL* animator took to make it..

    • @Random_person02
      @Random_person02 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Nah that fake how the hell 2 day!💀

    • @wowziesz
      @wowziesz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Yeah it makes sense tho tweening takes a lot of effort and time and it is that once scene she traced that is the issue the rest of it would of been fine if she credited the original (I’m not sure if she did or did not) so effort is put into her work she just need to know why tracing is bad and not leaving credits

    • @-.Moon_pink.-
      @-.Moon_pink.- 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Random_person02 That might be me.
      Doing a video for 3 days lmao

    • @miomiko459
      @miomiko459 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      She alr made a proper apology video and apologised to the creator and the creator forgived her

    • @Julia-by5sx
      @Julia-by5sx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Random_person02i think she didnt mean full days. probaly took around 4-6 hours

  • @Astonelle
    @Astonelle 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +324

    She apologized, whatever dude- but the way she sexualizes GACHA AND CONTENT MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR KIDS, people might think she's "explained why she did trace and apologized", but there's a lot of other things she's doing wrong that no one is really talking about. I'm glad you talked about the sexualization, this ain't really a " let it go" thing. Plus she's 15 so-💀🤡
    LUV UR PFP BTWW YOU EARNED A NEW SUB :D

    • @IWILLEATYOURTOES_TEHEHEHHEHE
      @IWILLEATYOURTOES_TEHEHEHHEHE 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      SHE SAID SHE WAS 11 (I think)😦

    • @InsulineForU
      @InsulineForU 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      ​@@IWILLEATYOURTOES_TEHEHEHHEHEHer oc is 11 I think, I don't remember exactly.

    • @InsulineForU
      @InsulineForU 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      I was thinking about that, I never really liked her content because it was sometimes appealing, There's also the fact that she sexualizes the character and her character is Cinnamoroll, who by the way is 5 to 6 years old... It's just the way I think.

    • @ewuxxi
      @ewuxxi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@IWILLEATYOURTOES_TEHEHEHHEHEshe’s 15

    • @Alex.Hunnyb7n
      @Alex.Hunnyb7n 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      15.. 💀

  • @sakura_starlight
    @sakura_starlight 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi sorry for bordering you can you please say whats the song name is?

    • @My_Sunsh1ne..
      @My_Sunsh1ne.. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hurt by NewJeans

  • @Hilliethecreativerolplayer
    @Hilliethecreativerolplayer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    0:25 this is a trend

  • @alioumoctartraore8672
    @alioumoctartraore8672 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +300

    The worst of all is that Cinnnamonroll is a male puppy..

    • @Justflop1
      @Justflop1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Wait rlly?

    • @JuicyPeachessss
      @JuicyPeachessss 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Justflop1 some ppl have a genderbend kink

    • @-willowfort-
      @-willowfort- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      fr, she's sexualizing an animal. (AND CINNAMONROLL IS A PUPPY?! So she's sexualizing a child dog.)

    • @Justflop1
      @Justflop1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@R.E.Y.Z.U.K.A FLYING?!?

    • @chrisxlynn
      @chrisxlynn หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      I THOUGHT THIS WHOLE TIME CINNAMONROLL WAS A BUNNY
      And something worse I thought his name was Cinnabun for yearss 😭

  • @perlinnuwu
    @perlinnuwu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +251

    "It took me two days to make this 😢"
    Well, if it took you two days to trace it, then can you consider how long the og animator actually took to draw and animate EVERYTHING from scratch? 🧐

    • @Mustyhoodrat706
      @Mustyhoodrat706 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      She aplogized god damn

    • @perlinnuwu
      @perlinnuwu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      @@Mustyhoodrat706 Yeah, I Already see the apology, and I can say that she handled it a lot more better and mature than the majority of other gachatubers

    • @Mustyhoodrat706
      @Mustyhoodrat706 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@perlinnuwu fr most of them can't even say I'm sorry

    • @simplyboba624
      @simplyboba624 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      She still animated all of it, she just traced that one part, and while it still doesn’t make it right, ur acting like she put no effort into it.

    • @JecjecKoolitKidsChannel
      @JecjecKoolitKidsChannel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​​@@simplyboba624imagine if someone got famous for using someone else's work

  • @hi_sleepy-411
    @hi_sleepy-411 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The "pls sub" at the end is crazy after you talked all that crap 😂

  • @RhimaBegum
    @RhimaBegum หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    SHES NOW CALLED "MITSUKI" NO LONGER CINAMINROLL

  • @Just_Nat._
    @Just_Nat._ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    And cinna wonders why shes not a preset in gacha life 2 💀

    • @sooah0726
      @sooah0726 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Don’t bully her she has feelings too

    • @naniko1234
      @naniko1234 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@sooah0726she has felliNG tooo z🤬😡🧚‍♀️

    • @naniko1234
      @naniko1234 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@sooah0726lol

    • @The-Nature-Fairy
      @The-Nature-Fairy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@naniko1234felling?

    • @C3sarT0rres
      @C3sarT0rres 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@sooah0726 🔥🔥🔥I DON’T GIVE A SHIT THEN🔥🔥🔥

  • @_.Imnotreal._
    @_.Imnotreal._ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    Not gonna say that almost all these videos you showed is a trend-

    • @jakeismikolajshubby
      @jakeismikolajshubby 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      did u even watch a second of the video 💀💀💀 it’s so clearly stated that being a gachatuber doesn’t mean you have to join every existing ‘trend’ 💀

    • @kakapakaadalala
      @kakapakaadalala 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jakeismikolajshubbyCinna wanted To boit💀

    • @TheyLuvEmiliana
      @TheyLuvEmiliana 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fr

    • @scoutofcc
      @scoutofcc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bro did not watch the full video 💀how pathetic of you bruh

    • @shedraws_12
      @shedraws_12 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@jakeismikolajshubby it's her choice mf 💀

  • @KleoAboveTheMoon
    @KleoAboveTheMoon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Off topic but what song are u using for this vid

    • @suckdeeznuts1
      @suckdeeznuts1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hurt by newjeans

  • @ExpiredSpoons
    @ExpiredSpoons หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How did i go from asmr to this

  • @Cottoncandygirlie
    @Cottoncandygirlie 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    Its weird how some of these famous and big deal people in the gacha community just lose themselves slowly and slowly, eventually, breaking the gacha community bad enough, gachatubers have to build it back up, but it will never be fully whole again.😣😥

    • @Moon_hello
      @Moon_hello 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Okay this part 1:16 is fine that was a trend she put it in her video so everyone did it to and she actually made a another apology that made more sense and said there was a lot of refresh of the video and couldn’t find the person who made the original video

    • @Cottoncandygirlie
      @Cottoncandygirlie 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I heard, that they are thinking about allowing it! Tracing, I only saw a video title, but that still might mean they allow it. Even if some hate the idea.

    • @_.-_IIAdamsAppls_II
      @_.-_IIAdamsAppls_II 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah..gotta agree with you there, because once someone does something that's extremely inappropriate or bad, there's nothing they could possibly do to go back and fix it b/c if the fans see it, then it's already too late and nobody would forgive them for it because the Fans remember that. Damn, that's just how i personally view it.
      You know what im trying to say? 🤔

    • @horw5240
      @horw5240 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i left the gacha community for 2 years thinking it will be good in future ☠️

    • @Sakasaki.143
      @Sakasaki.143 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@horw5240SAME only come back for more drama and sexual content with cute ah chibi characters.

  • @sugoi694
    @sugoi694 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

    I forgot how the gacha community gets mad over the smallest things lmao, Idk I personally don't think it's even that big of a deal despite the fact that I do think what the cinna person is doing is weird lmao

    • @Webt00n-lover
      @Webt00n-lover 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      SAME the whole vid just wants to start unnecessary drama for no reason
      The first 33 seconds they talk how she copied but the purpose of a trend is to copy other people stuff with your character

    • @Sakasaki.143
      @Sakasaki.143 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      CHILDREN are usually exposed to these gacha videos and these affect them in the wrong way. My sister for example, she’s 7 I saw her watch weird gacha videos and 😭😭
      Plus I don’t understand why people make these kinda sexual content WITH GACHA LIKE THEYRE CUTE CHIBIS (I’m not hating btw ik some people do it for views and fame)

    • @taie_
      @taie_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Sakasaki.143true but at the same time there shouldn't be children under the age of 13 on here so looking at a technical perspective, It's not really wrong.
      I get what you mean though, those poses and outfits are still too revealing.

    • @oyarichi2549
      @oyarichi2549 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@starlight_c”recover” bro stop the victimization 😂😂😂😂

    • @e-36bj8
      @e-36bj8 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@starlight_c 💀💀

  • @azu6855
    @azu6855 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It just feels like everyone is everyone's business these days

  • @Xaestell
    @Xaestell 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It makes me sad that she quit being cinna and returned being mitsuki...

    • @PrettyXS
      @PrettyXS 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Did she returned being mitsuki because of bullies???

    • @jaspzr
      @jaspzr 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@PrettyXSno, she couldn’t use cinna anymore because of copyright i think

    • @PrettyXS
      @PrettyXS 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jaspzr Oh

  • @DEN1_ST4R
    @DEN1_ST4R 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    the beep beep one is a TREND u can’t just shame her and only her, instead of targeting someone maybe shame the trend.

    • @Lunar66730
      @Lunar66730 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed. The whole trend is inappropriate. That's what I've been trying to point out.

    • @Dreamycupid
      @Dreamycupid 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Exactly, when someone does a mistake, people looks for their other mistakes and accuse it, but they never saw those who made this trend too.

  • @margarinecat
    @margarinecat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Well that's no good, I hope they stop soon or people begin to notice just how problematic they are :[

    • @kanakuzuka
      @kanakuzuka  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I know, but it's gonna be hard when she has so many subs.

    • @gachajujubee4692
      @gachajujubee4692 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@kanakuzukaand if she does try to get out from that bad path I bet a lot of her fans are going probably get mad because they like that "content" she made

    • @XxGachaRiley_253xX
      @XxGachaRiley_253xX 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@gachajujubee4692 yea that's the part I hate people praising her💀

    • @Chantalresma-Aubrey
      @Chantalresma-Aubrey 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@kanakuzukaidc 😤

  • @dr.peppr1
    @dr.peppr1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She’s doing a dance for that last one, but the tweeting in that is horrible

  • @stars_of_destiny
    @stars_of_destiny 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When people crave for fame and money, they are like unfilled holes that need to find something to fill that hole…and yet they feel empty. They do so much to get what they want. But what is it worth for one man to gain the whole world…and lose one’s soul 😔

  • @Mal_Productions_Was_Taken
    @Mal_Productions_Was_Taken 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    I've honestly given up, probably leaving the community at this point, and I know some of you guys are like 'WeLl, It JuSt HaS sOmE bAd ApPlEs' no. I know every community has bad apples, but this one clearly has too many.

    • @Overwatch2010
      @Overwatch2010 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed I stop too

    • @HAIMOOSIC
      @HAIMOOSIC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      fr but im not leaving bc of that im still learning how to edit but i don't want to be like her

  • @Wilburcito_
    @Wilburcito_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Regarding the part about “sexualizing” Cinna, I think you are wrong, the truth is more the perspective in which you see this, Cinna most likely did not intend to sexualize the character he gives life to or animates, I see the outfits that the oc uses as normal, there are even many more gachatubers who use this type of outfits on their oc's and they don't do it to sexualize them, They just liked the design, It is already the person who sees it as something morbid and provocative.

    • @IruMotaShipper
      @IruMotaShipper 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      However, it can be seen as sexualization

    • @Wilburcito_
      @Wilburcito_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@IruMotaShipper But that would be the person's problem.

    • @IruMotaShipper
      @IruMotaShipper 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Wilburcito_ not really, the creat9r should state their intentions before posting

    • @Wilburcito_
      @Wilburcito_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@IruMotaShipper Well, it's gachaclub, content created for children, that's not enough? Morbid people or people who see that type of content and say "WOW! It's sexualizing Cinna" are the ones who are wrong.
      I am very sure that the content creator had no double intentions, she just saw the clothing sets and the trends and wanted to do it, just for fun, not to sexualize “her character.”

    • @IruMotaShipper
      @IruMotaShipper 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Wilburcito_ however, there's also the fact that it's a gender bend if a Sanrio character, and if I sound aggressive, I apologize.

  • @B-HR_edits
    @B-HR_edits 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Finally, a reason to watch gotcha again

  • @jervinpuso349
    @jervinpuso349 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amazing gacha TH-camrs are sometimes tracing, inappropriate, hates, sex behavior, and more bad things... There are many people who stopped making gacha videos before they get hate by many more people, cuz you all know that if they're good at animating. No one can stop them from animating something weird. Just like arts: if im good at art means i can draw weird and more unique. Cuz thats how they show their talent, but sometimes you just blame them. We haven't know whats the reason behind those bad things on why did they do that.. Just like Albert. He's almost making weird animation but he knews, he knews that dirty animation will catch almost everyone's attention. Cuz everyone is dirty, and i know not everyone but im saying "almost" everyone. We cant blame them, and she changed anyways she sincerely apologize so try giving her more chances. But if you notice that she keep doing it, then...
    Its trending, so let them be trace... Its just animation, why hate it? Its just avatar, let them show interest on someone. Its her own, let her be... Its not like im depending her, im also mad. Not because her avatar is sassy outfits, not because of her tracing and any! I was mad that she keep doing what she wanna do, she doesn't listen. But, if maybe i became her old sis she would've receive hate. Cuz i know her more than anyone else.
    *and btw... Its just tracing?? Why are you mad in something small? Why can't you forgive them? Is it because... You're not good at forgiving something that makes you so mad that you feel devil's inside you? You know, theres a poison inside you. And let's say that poison is madness. You're mad because cinna is tracer and using sassy outfit in her oc.. But she keep having compliment. You know why? They spend hours and days to finish their work. So tell me... Why cant you forgive them? Its not like she already made a very Bad Crime! God gave us many chances too change but you cant even give otherd chances...*
    I am very truly sorry creator im just explaining what i know... But i do respect your video! And i hope you respect the same too... Again, please dont start war in my comments. Remember this is just an opinion, my own. Not yours, so you can just ignore it but, if theres something im missing you may give me a rude or bad comments or maybe you can hate me, its your decision. And again.. *i am very very sorry, creator i cant help but to say it..*
    Godbless you all.

  • @LaterRadiatior
    @LaterRadiatior 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    Also she wasn't sexualizing cinnamoroll itself. What cinna has branded herself as is a KINSONA. Its kind of like the original character, but not exactly. Thats what a kinsona is.

    • @tntgirl7820
      @tntgirl7820 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Not to mention that those aren't even sexual. Those are just harmless trends. Sexualising a dance like this is totally not ok! People irl do those things when preforming dances and it has no sexual meaning

    • @Dreamycupid
      @Dreamycupid 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      ​@@tntgirl7820Fr, people are just the one dirty minded

    • @OneHelluva_edit
      @OneHelluva_edit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@tntgirl7820I know, it’s a trend and no one got on a KUROMI OFFICIAL for making it.. it’s not sexual unless you make it sexual

    • @OneHelluva_edit
      @OneHelluva_edit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      And I guess bending over and doing the splits is sexual now?

    • @IDontHaveANamejustcallmeA
      @IDontHaveANamejustcallmeA 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Lmao not you people in the replies trying to make it seem “innocent” sthu Cinna has even wore a s*xualized bunny suit in her TikTok (which I saw few months ago) in a st!pper context (she was literally at the bar drunk in the video) how are you gonna defend that?

  • @BobaTNT
    @BobaTNT 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    Not gonna lie, she never said she made kids content!

    • @valentinaraffaelli7291
      @valentinaraffaelli7291 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      that doesnt make sexualizing a character made for a children's show okay

    • @BobaTNT
      @BobaTNT 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@valentinaraffaelli7291 It sounds different the way you put it,your right but no matter what show the character's from the age guildlines is more importanat then that. At least she's not sexualizing the character as an animal

    • @IDontHaveANamejustcallmeA
      @IDontHaveANamejustcallmeA 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Gacha and Sanrio BOTH is literally for kids tho.. if u watch Sanrio or Gacha of course this is gonna get recommended to people especially kids, also she’s 15 and I think turned 16 just a few weeks or a month ago and she’s already s*xualizing herself and also it’s in a kids game and with a character from a kids cartoon, so it should be obvious why it’s wrong by now

    • @AkiraCaves
      @AkiraCaves 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@IDontHaveANamejustcallmeAGacha isn’t really a kids game it’s a tween game. EX: 10+ or 11+ is the age requirement but ofc kids are still gonna use it

    • @Dreamycupid
      @Dreamycupid 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​Gacha cannot really be considered as a kids game bcz the fandom ruined it, it WAS supposed to be a kids thing, not anymore its now 11+ or smth.​@@IDontHaveANamejustcallmeA

  • @Clubedoscoxinhas
    @Clubedoscoxinhas 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A lot of gachatubers are doing the same thing,normalizing sexual content

  • @Yuichiros_missing_arm._
    @Yuichiros_missing_arm._ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love gacha, and gacha creators like me, but its really disappointing how people even do those things😭

  • @starllordd
    @starllordd 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Lowkey I don’t think you should’ve singled her out on the beep beep trend because
    1. obviously other creators did it too and if the trend was problematic you should call them out on it too not just her.
    2. It’s just a song no need to get heated for ig because there are like way inappropriate songs like WAP 😭.
    and also saying that “you’re not a sexy btc your just being a btc was definitely not necessary.
    Also the clothes aren’t even that “sexual” I mean it’s not like she is wearing a bikini or something like that.
    (please no hate this is just my opinion 🥲❤)

    • @user-kw1si1pq1y
      @user-kw1si1pq1y 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I agree with this while I think the tracing thing was wrong and the apology was .. ehhh.. it was .. something , I don’t see why people are getting so heated over the “sexualizing” she’s not ACTUALLY cinnamon roll , she’s just dressed up as the character , a lot of people make outfits inspired by mascots , like nobody is hating on people dressing up as a “sexy pikachu” , calling her disgusting and vile for just … having a character dressed up with clothes representing cinnamon roll is over the top , and like people are going WAYYY too far with this saying she ruined cinnamon roll for them or saying she should delete her account and a apology isn’t enough , saying stc etc , the most I would do is maybe just be disappointed and a bit mad with it and ask about it like hey why did you trace and if there’s a sincere apology and she took down the video I don’t see why there’s a need to dwell on it any further I would prob not watch her videos anymore but that’s it I just think the 2nd reason with the whole sexualized thing was nitpicked and honestly I was surprised at the comment “your not a sexy bitch your just a bitch” it’s a trend and that’s uncalled for

    • @user-kw1si1pq1y
      @user-kw1si1pq1y 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@udinacat literally never heard her say that before , and honestly.. I don’t really get why the beep beep trend is bad , yeah it’s sexual most of the time but a lot of trends are , its not like we can’t have anything suggestive online😭 that’s way different from having someone straight up do gacha heat in a kids platform like I would GET if someone was disgusted if she was
      1. Doing these sexual things to the actual Sanrio
      2. Doing this on a kids platform ( which btw tik tok .. isn’t a kids platform?? Nor TH-cam .. that’s why there’s TH-cam kids )
      3. Showing nsfw content
      And maybe other reasons , although that still doesn’t really mean that someone can just call her disgusting and a bitch for participating in a little trend? This BY THE WAY doesn’t mean I defend her about everything I do not condone the tracing , I find her content a bit weird and I’m not really a fan of her , I just don’t think that calling her a bitch is fair .

    • @tuxedochi
      @tuxedochi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the reason the creator only talked about cinna on the beep beep trend is because she represents cinnamoroll. She represents cinnamoroll and cinnamoroll is a little boy puppy who is specifically meant for children. Also the clothes are def sexual...she was wearing a stripper outfit. also it's basically was a bikini but with the stomach covered. Still indeed sexual.

    • @HANDLEDMYHANDLE987
      @HANDLEDMYHANDLE987 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I so agree!

    • @kittycatrittycatalt9523
      @kittycatrittycatalt9523 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah agreed
      i mean
      the gacha community has a ton of sexualization
      the internet isn't made for kids
      so they gotta suck it up
      i'm sorry if i'm being too hard but it's the harsh truth
      kids shouldn't even be having phones or tablets at that age so if anything it's the parents fault

  • @itskateflames77
    @itskateflames77 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Y'all good news.. Cinna apologized with a cool apology! But still
    Her oc is cinnamoroll from sanrio, i guess we all know cinnamoroll don't swear/wear inappropriately and we all know he's a shy lil pup
    Idk what make cinnamoroll make this content *it contains swear words too* she resembled a cute character, yes i still support cinnamoroll but still i really mind much of her content..
    That was my opinion as u have one, we all are 100% entitled to our opinions :)

  • @Shaniieqwq
    @Shaniieqwq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The miku meme was a trend that involved recreating it in your own unique way, but the tracing portion is really disappointing

  • @blueberry.is.lost.
    @blueberry.is.lost. 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    people saying stuff like “everyone traces art so its fine” well maybe, just a thought to put out there, *everyone shouldn’t?*

  • @G00se_is_ok
    @G00se_is_ok 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    (MY OPINION)
    At 1:54 I have to disagree first of all, it is a trend that I have seen other Gacha tubers do. Second of all, if the parents dont like it, then they can just switch their child to YT kids. And sometimes Gacha videos can be more towards teens than children.
    (I’m sorry my spelling was bad, and I do think you are a nice person. I just wanted to say it)
    Anyway, I hope you have a nice day/ night :3

  • @jelly1320
    @jelly1320 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    Although I can't say much about the situation because I don't even know the creator, but "sexualizing" such characters have been happening for literally quite some time now.
    Not just characters but also animals and the biggest example I can give are cat or kittens. Especially in Japan where they make maid costumes of cartoon characters like 'Kuromi' or 'My melody', etc.
    I hope the creator fixes the mistakes they've made.
    I also think the animation is a 'meme' that is supposed to be recreated by others while giving proper credit because the original spent many hours on their work

    • @jelly1320
      @jelly1320 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I understand that it's not right to be sexualizing such things that are supposed to be for children but it can't be helped as it had already gone trending and many people are doing it. The only way we can help to lessen this is to influence others to stop it or be disgusted by it💀

    • @IDontHaveANamejustcallmeA
      @IDontHaveANamejustcallmeA 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      its a kids game, did u ever wonder why gacha heat is bad? its not just cause its s3xual its cause its s3xualizing *in a kids game* but for some reason people will only defend it when the art is good..?? also since its a kids game it will be recommended to kids which is disgusting and horrible. i dont even watch weird stuff but sometimes i get recommended stuff like it just cause its in the same community.

    • @HateCas
      @HateCas 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Here yall go with the damn excuses

    • @Sakasaki.143
      @Sakasaki.143 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@HateCasIKR THEIR FANS ARE TRYING SO HARD TO JUSTIFY HER ACTIONS “Oh she’s not the only one doing it” “oh she was under too much stress so she traced” bla bla bla. Disgusting.

  • @user-rq9hf9zk5l
    @user-rq9hf9zk5l 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Atleast she didn't do anything that bad, unlike that mama boy, I'm disgusted of what he did....
    😔🤢🤮😫

    • @Syjhdyjjdxyjshjdjhdshjsdhjs
      @Syjhdyjjdxyjshjdjhdshjsdhjs 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A better explanation would be hatsumi or lentotally bc there in this community. Also it doesn’t justify her doing it once.

    • @Syjhdyjjdxyjshjdjhdshjsdhjs
      @Syjhdyjjdxyjshjdjhdshjsdhjs 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Also don’t compare this to a litteral r@pist

  • @takajamesphotography2539
    @takajamesphotography2539 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tbh I agree with u pretty much, the tracing is kinda like stealing art unless you ask the artist for permission and the sexualizing part you talked about was pretty much true, but some other gacha tubers out there are way worse, like Olivia gacha. Olivia makes JESUS GACHA HEAT...

  • @xD1N0x-457
    @xD1N0x-457 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    And they are also completely different things, the type of animation, the art style, and this trend is also popular among foreigners.

  • @gghostqs
    @gghostqs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    cinnamoroll is one of my favourite sanrio characters, and to see this person do that is digusting. litterally why i dont do gacha anymore.

  • @lilsharkiethatlikes2swim
    @lilsharkiethatlikes2swim 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Her video made me so uncomfy it’s unreal

  • @imnotinterestedinmario.5632
    @imnotinterestedinmario.5632 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    (my opinion)
    her tracing the hands isnt bad. i feel like you should have just called her out on full on tracing someone else's art with no credit, and her sassy apology.

    • @FoxieCherry
      @FoxieCherry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think she did give credit in the videos that she traced the hands

    • @Panzystubbedtheirtoe
      @Panzystubbedtheirtoe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FoxieCherrywasnt that after she was called out though? I distinctly remember the problem being that she traced the hands and didnt credit the original artist of them

    • @FoxieCherry
      @FoxieCherry 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Panzystubbedtheirtoe I remember flo saying that she didn't give good enough credit

  • @Happy_new_year.271
    @Happy_new_year.271 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    For people who hates cinna, that made me mad she already apologize and deleted the video and why would people hate cinna? She hardwork all of the edits she had
    Edit: don't get mad at me, I'm just mad at people for hating cinna

    • @KunoKunoKi
      @KunoKunoKi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's just peoples opinions, everyone should learn how to respect opinions, not trying to be rude I just don't want you to start fighting people who don't have the same opinion as you

    • @Happy_new_year.271
      @Happy_new_year.271 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@udinacat BRUH I DON'T HATE PEOPLE-

    • @ThisFoxdeservesaOscar
      @ThisFoxdeservesaOscar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. she deleted the video bc of y'all,apologized and everything, and their still mad...she tried to fix the problem..

  • @Kano865
    @Kano865 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I used to be her fan too, but if you go to her channel it is disturbing, she even has one of her being a demon and killing a angel, disturbing

  • @Aiden_Lunar
    @Aiden_Lunar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’d say people are too pressed by something minimal, but this is TH-cam and I’m not looking to get my head bitten off, much less my ass 💀

  • @V3NX0_
    @V3NX0_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Cinnamoroll apologised already. She doesnt know what too tag the creators one.. but do not harass cinnamoroll or threaten her it might get her too far

    • @toaster396
      @toaster396 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This video was 7 days ago..

  • @ANIKO.__.XINNA.CUPCAKES
    @ANIKO.__.XINNA.CUPCAKES 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    Everyone, I think Cinna apologized about the miku video she didnt know tracing it was bad and she didnt give credits because she didnt find the original creator because there was alot of copies. She apologized to the creator of the miku video. I forgive her and its ok if you dont, we all have opinions.

    • @user-hn3bm3sj3d
      @user-hn3bm3sj3d 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ❤❤❤

    • @Comet346
      @Comet346 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      How did she not know tracing is bad lmao?

    • @SoftieSaphira
      @SoftieSaphira 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She didn't even say a single sorry

    • @ANIKO.__.XINNA.CUPCAKES
      @ANIKO.__.XINNA.CUPCAKES 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I said i think!@@SoftieSaphira

    • @N0Trich
      @N0Trich 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      And I don't even think she was sexualizing Cinnamon roll really.

  • @Hiiiii_._
    @Hiiiii_._ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I haven’t saw those vids…but when I just did I now need bleach😭 thx for telling everyone this so now I know the truth😭………..

  • @rohan_gamerxx5119
    @rohan_gamerxx5119 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2:00 bro what is she dancing man..

  • @mizukimylovely
    @mizukimylovely 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

    I hate Gacha drama. A lot of times people who literally stings are either really stressed or a stealer. I think for the situation, she was just really stressed because you can tell how talented she is, and think how long it took for her to make all of her videos. So just put yourself in her shoes and just thinking may be a little bit. I just don’t want Gacha Drama to happen.😢

    • @mizukimylovely
      @mizukimylovely 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@theautumnwind8437 yes sexualizing Gacha characters is bad. But imagine yourself in front of your computer. You haven’t upload in a while and you’re working on video. Your fans are getting antsy and they wanna video soon. What would you do? I think what she did is trace because of the stress on her way from fans.

    • @HateCas
      @HateCas 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@mizukimylovelyyoure disgusting for trying to excuse what she’s doing. YOU KNOW she’s in the wrong but you’re still trying to excuse it.

    • @mizukimylovely
      @mizukimylovely 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HateCas I wish she would stop but at the same time I can’t stop it im srry

    • @Sakasaki.143
      @Sakasaki.143 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mizukimylovely trying to justify her actions is crazy 😭😭 tracing is still tracing

    • @mizukimylovely
      @mizukimylovely 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ok…

  • @TELETUBBIEZ773
    @TELETUBBIEZ773 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The sheep thing was gacha heat?-my opinion take's place now--
    My opinion: I do not think It is gacha heat and other people also did the trend and people said she sexulized cinna -bad spelling- but I do not think it was sexulized.
    Miku trend: she had apologized 3 time's 1st apology was bad 2nd no sorry's 3rd explination and she apologized to the creator and deleted the video.
    Another video: She probably did not know the transliation to the song.
    Her 3rd apololgy: it was a explination video she had posted it on october 3rd or october 4th.
    I apologize for my bad spelling as it was kinda rushed because I wanted to watch some fnaf video's so please correct my spelling.

  • @Anastasia_on_pawz
    @Anastasia_on_pawz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:30 I don’t see a problem about the outfit. It may be weird but we don’t have to judge her for it. Plus plenty of Gacha creators are using that. The position is weird

  • @Panda_CZ1211
    @Panda_CZ1211 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree but The Vinn problem got me shivering so bad Because he was my idol, i wanted to be like him until I found out what he did..

  • @LocalLovableHeart
    @LocalLovableHeart 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Me just staring at the background: 👁️👄👁️

    • @kanakuzuka
      @kanakuzuka  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lol😭💞

    • @rossguido8883
      @rossguido8883 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kanakuzukawhat didnshe do I forgot-

    • @rossguido8883
      @rossguido8883 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kanakuzukadid she*

    • @rossguido8883
      @rossguido8883 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kanakuzukasorry I'm asking :(

  • @1...flan._.
    @1...flan._. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Cinnamoroll is actually a puppy
    Puppies are basically baby dogs
    So I geuss Cinna is sexualizing a minor? Idk

    • @Anti-zoo10
      @Anti-zoo10 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Wow, it's true, he's a puppy, and puppies are babies dog, so it makes sense that Cinna is sexualizing a minor.

    • @kanakuzuka
      @kanakuzuka  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's so true.

    • @HerbertEnterprises
      @HerbertEnterprises 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What the fudge... God that sounds so weird.

    • @LilBlueberry
      @LilBlueberry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She never did that or had it in mind I know Cinnamoroll did some bad things. But now people are using the tracing problem to add another problems. The videos were in yt for a long time. Why nobody talked about this? Why nobody exposed the og of the trend? Just dosent seem right. ?!?!
      people made trends on tt and Cinnamoroll joined it and posted it on yt. And now everyone is blaming her when the og of the trends are receiving compliments
      I just wanted to say, the only thing she did wrong is trace and not giving credits. Also she apologised and talked with Flotalendy in private so yeah. She won't do it again.

    • @kanakuzuka
      @kanakuzuka  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LilBlueberry bro, I literally said that in the video- JUST BECAUSE IT'S A TREND YOU DON'T NEED TO JOIN IT. AND THE ORIGINALS ARE WRONG TOO BUT THIS VID IS ABOUT CINNA!!! also, she just told flotalendy to remove it since it would ruin her public image. 😭

  • @x-x_project_sekai
    @x-x_project_sekai หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At 2:32 in the video, the background isn't even gacha. It is a game background of Kaiyama High, a fictional high school in rythmn game HATSUNE MIKU:COLOURFUL STAGE!

  • @iIoveladybugs
    @iIoveladybugs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:24 literally how i randomly stay in bed🥺

  • @Yourgirlgachaqueen
    @Yourgirlgachaqueen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Bro, that muki part wasn’t even copying she was just doing a trend with her OC

    • @KunoKunoKi
      @KunoKunoKi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was TRACED bro, the other people who did the trend didn't trace and made their own, but Cinna didn't, plus it is tracing since she did it without permission from the owner, do you get it now?

    • @kitpup_13
      @kitpup_13 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KunoKunoKi she only traced like one scene, the gacha community always whines about the smallest things and besides if you compare the og scene to the ''traced'' scene there is lots of differences

    • @KunoKunoKi
      @KunoKunoKi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kitpup_13 She has traced multiple times already, the Miku one was just the most noticeable one, you can go find more stuff to say how she's innocent plus, this was literally in 2023, grow up.

    • @Justflop1
      @Justflop1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@KunoKunoKi sorry if this was like months ago but yk she could have used it as a base or something? I think ive seen a few people use other art for references

    • @KunoKunoKi
      @KunoKunoKi หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Justflop1 A base is something you draw over, she did not draw over it she just traced it without credit, plus a base is something that has no accessories cause you draw it on them and she didn't have permission to use it

  • @Its_tocakira
    @Its_tocakira 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Can you guys just leave her? Please don’t hate on me for this, but she never said her content was even for kids? you guys don’t have to control her like she’s a doll it’s her art and it’s her OC. I’m not agreeing with you or her,
    Stop, sending hate on such a creative content creator, and not all Gacha going to be for kids? I know you’re going to say ,” OH BUT A KID MIGHT SEE HER DOING THIS STUFF AND FOLLOW ALONG?” Well even if a kid saw it? They won’t follow along nor do anything about it it? They know what’s inappropriate and whats not. I don’t like her sexualizing the character but we can’t do anything about it it. Even if she made an apology some of us won’t agree and some of us will.
    Pls don’t make this an argument, there are tons of popular gacha content creators that do disgusting stuff but we don’t say anything. I also don’t like her doing those things but knowing I can’t do anything about our anger or what she will do next. We are all humans and deserve respect.

    • @Its_tocakira
      @Its_tocakira 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I’m not saying that I’m on her side bc I’m not I don’t like her. But I just don’t want any drama with me in it I’m just saying my opinion. I’m disappointed in her also, this fandom is becoming toxic and bad… I wish it went how it used to be but it’s not.

    • @zero_0ff13
      @zero_0ff13 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      YES, Everyone keep searching for problem by using the cinnamon character like bruh

    • @MiZuZu...
      @MiZuZu... 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      THIS. YOU ATE

    • @Its_tocakira
      @Its_tocakira 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MiZuZu... Ty

    • @JuicyPeachessss
      @JuicyPeachessss 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Not all gacha is gonna be for kids" dude the game is made for 12 year Olds and no they don't know what's inappropriate or not.This is disgusting behavior and your opinion is trash

  • @arenireni
    @arenireni หลายเดือนก่อน

    A lot of people do the same thing with the tracing especially with that persons art just look at the rabbit hole trend

  • @bunnyblue53
    @bunnyblue53 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:55 its like saying
    "Can u ignore that i was bullying people and be kind to me 🥺"

  • @nhatvu2376
    @nhatvu2376 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is my opinion, but I think tracing is okay to do as long the original artist allows people to trace it, so don't always think tracing is bad.

  • @abagial_lee
    @abagial_lee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Not to be rude but can u stop bullying her amd move

  • @yum.food.4446
    @yum.food.4446 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    helloooooo
    so this is just my opinion on tracing. if you don’t agree with me then that’s fine i won’t care cuz everyone’s opinion matters.
    anyways, i never traced anything in my life, as an artist. however, i sometimes think that it is okay to trace because it’s other’s people drawings who pass the original as their own. while it not being original, it’s their own drawing that they did trace the original’s art, while still somehow making it their own. i recommend people who do trace art, give credit to the original video as it still belongs rightfully to them.
    that’s all i gotta say, thank yuuuu

  • @Byeol_for_sure
    @Byeol_for_sure หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And she even put sweat on the characters face while doing that position?? Sus

  • @-L3ss0-da-miku-fan-
    @-L3ss0-da-miku-fan- 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Now that u mention it..
    No one noticed that in the video she traces channel so did the miku trend, u see the thing that pulls cinna and miku to where we can see her? Well, cinna traced that too . they are so similar and I just can't believe how she could do such a thing! She just wasted her amazing talent!

    • @kanakuzuka
      @kanakuzuka  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE.... YOU'RE RIGHT😭😭😭 she has such talent, it's a shame.

  • @user-he3od6pz8u
    @user-he3od6pz8u 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fully agree with you gurl, these gachatubers cross some boundaries sometimes for more views and likes

  • @Zumbiee
    @Zumbiee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    when that one gachatuber you just dont like is finally getting exposed and you finally have a reason to hate them.

  • @GHozt3D_CLAwz
    @GHozt3D_CLAwz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can I say something about the s3xualizing- she wasn't. It's a meme that people do. She wanted to do it and she did- she's not s3xualizing cinna.

  • @user-vb8fv2tg3u
    @user-vb8fv2tg3u 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Over the years so many gacha tubers are being called out for such wrong things and so many people are leaving the community… Gacha heat makes this sh*tty situation even worse. People are now looking at this community and calling toxic. Well at least they’re still some good gachatubers out there…

  • @LIVYTHELITTLEPERSON
    @LIVYTHELITTLEPERSON 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    the fact she is not the only one “copying” the miku video

    • @bugkasa
      @bugkasa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the fact that the original video wasn’t even supposed to be for a trend it was a gift for mikus’s anniversary 💀

    • @LIVYTHELITTLEPERSON
      @LIVYTHELITTLEPERSON 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ikr

  • @RaykioRay
    @RaykioRay 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    For the people who are late seeing this video ( this is a long time ago situation ) if I can remember it was cinna’s or mitsuki’s fault kuza is not hating on her this situation has nothing to do with her getting hacked because that is a future thing everybody has already gone over it cuz the problem has been solved already but yah it actually was her fault not urs not kuza hers and again this situation has already been fixed pls do not judge people this is a past thing for the new people☹️☹️

  • @luhvrk4rl
    @luhvrk4rl หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i agree with everything but the "s3xualizing". How exactly is she s3xualizing the character?? The outfit isnt really s3xual, its just an outfit, but your opinion is your opinion and i respect it.

  • @WANDAHOII
    @WANDAHOII 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Yes, this is very disappointing, I liked a few of her vids, and as soon as I seen the Miku vid I knew that she had traced. Tracing is common, but not giving credits and afterwards, asking for *praise* is unacceptable. Like, be fr cinna. And sexualizing Cinnamoroll on top of all of that? Both Sanrio + San-X has been meant for children since invented. And here there is, a youtuber apart of a community that uses a game that kids also use. I'm sure that she is aware that many children have watched her video of her oc doing... whatever tf that was. Just own up to your actions, delete the videos that you used traced content on, give a proper apology. No matter what she does not everyone will forgive her ofc, but just hope that someone will.

    • @kanakuzuka
      @kanakuzuka  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      LITERALLLLYYYY TYSM

    • @WANDAHOII
      @WANDAHOII 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@kanakuzuka Np, also I subscribed. I'm very happy that you talked about this. we need more people who spread awareness about people like Cinna. 🙂

    • @kanakuzuka
      @kanakuzuka  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@WANDAHOII ur too kind🩷🩷🩷 TYSM for subbing, it actually means sm....😭

    • @INN0CNET._.
      @INN0CNET._. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Uhm... ;-;

    • @INN0CNET._.
      @INN0CNET._. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also she deleted that traced video

  • @haruhikari2424
    @haruhikari2424 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    In my opinion if you can't find the original source but still want to give credit then you can write "Credits go to the original creator" which works just as well since you still acknowledge that this someone else work

  • @Casey._.69
    @Casey._.69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why did i search hole dwelling and this pops out. 👁️👄👁️

  • @arrieyes
    @arrieyes 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree with you. Sanrio is only for friendly content and shes making it worst, i also dont like how she thinks shes "sexy" even though its just an avatar. She should make friendly videos like the others.

  • @Cloud-ep9rx
    @Cloud-ep9rx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    oh my gosh just because she represents cinnamonroll
    Doesnt mean she has to be cinna
    It doesnt matter if she’s supposed to be kid friendly
    What im trying to say is
    She represents cinna but she isnt so she doesnt have to be kid friendly and you have no right to tell her that
    (Btw you can explode of anger is you want i dont give a f 😂)

  • @_LiroeWantsOreos_
    @_LiroeWantsOreos_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Ok can the people who won’t accept her apology stop? She apologized, she doesn’t need to be blamed anymore, what if you traced and then you apologized and people kept on blaming you!? She apologized now stop acting like she didn’t. People love her videos and I love her videos. She told us to just forget about it, just move on with your life. She deleted the video, it’s not a big deal! Just leave her alone! God damn!

  • @Th3TV1sbuff3r1ng
    @Th3TV1sbuff3r1ng หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have lost Anti Flag, Lovejoy, Wilbur Soot, Dream, GeorgeNotFound, and now Cinnamon roll…. :[ this is sad….

  • @daeyii
    @daeyii 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im pretty sure the miku animation was a trend and everyone was making their own versions, tracing and copying.

  • @randomwoman_xoxo
    @randomwoman_xoxo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    tbh i really dont care about this creator bc i dont watch her and she never got my attention about the miku animation i will say i also dont care because the animation by its self is an capcut template free to use for anybody on tik tok so she instead of using the template she animated it by herself and only traced the drawing so yeah i see nothing wrong in there but when you started talking about the clothes and stuff yeah i pretty much agree she should stop that she doesnt have to change the oc at all tbh if she names it a snowflake or smth and instead of the small cinna in her vids put smth else it will be much better also what i remmember from tik tok there are also other gachatubers with sanrio characters and they were doing the same also and then when i stopped seeing them on tik tok cinna joined so basically this is normal type of content i guess but a really stupid one