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Really tho the only way for Tia to completely escape her first fate is by being with Carsein. Allen is obsessive to the point he wants to lock up her for himself and with Ruve she’ll just end up like her 1st life contrary to her so called determination to ‘escape her fate’ lmao i really hate it here because at the first part she was so determine to be strong and escape her fate but in the middle of the way, she melted yet again for the prince. *sigh. If she ends up with Carsein, not only she can be a knight(which being an empress will sacrifice her that privilege) but she can be the heiress of her household and their name can be inherited to her future generations without problems because Carsein is a second child and not the heir of De Rass family. Smh ofc it’s just my opinion tho.
Wow you got the point. But I wonder it for awhile since Carsein is Ruve's cousin and his family, of course, belongs to imperial faction I dont see it will work. Compare to Allendis, Tia seems only see Carsein as good friend. While with Allendis it is deeper because he was her first-ever-made-friend. As much as I hate the idea Tia will end up with Ruve, but it is what will happen likely. I also just found that Ruve is not j*** in actual. He loves Tia deeply but he was manipulated. Either way, I just want Tia to pursue her happiness, freedom, and pride for herself
NSMajlan nah her present life is already very different from her past life, she had already escaped that cruel fate, if you can't tell. The prince is no longer jealous of her, and instead loves her. And this time, he would most definitely pick Tia over Jieun, unless Tia wishes for otherwise. Meanwhile Carsein does seem like a good partner, all Tia sees in him is a good friend. I doubt Tia had ever considered getting together with Carsein. Ruve and Carsein are relatives, I doubt we can get a happy ending out of that.
@@lyuunuu Yeah it's been pointed out a ton that Ruve is A) a completely different person from his 1st life (as in via time travel he is literally and entirely different entity) and B) at this point without spoiling things there's really no possibility of him ending up like his 1st Timeline self.
@@lyuunuu yes but the thing is at the novel she stated HERSELF she wasnt happy and only married him for his sake. There was no love in it. She fell in...AGAIN
@@ailavonsweet8760 Where did it say that? The epilogue mentions that they had a happily married life with Tia as a dominant force as the Empress while Ruve supported her and did most of the work fathering their kids. SPOILER: And if you were talking about Ruve storming off during the knighting ceremony, the two already fell for each other but Tia wanted to succeed her Father until Ruve pulled strings so she could do both and split passing on her title and the throne between her two children. She had a whole conversation about loving Ruve with Jieun literally a few chapters before.
Silvana Salazar Schiller after reading the spoilers in detail, the prince is actually quite tragic and everything was just a huge mess lol forum.novelupdates.com/threads/the-abandoned-empress.43439/page-23 also this forum has in-depth and detailed explanations if you or anyone else feels like reading it
@@jen.kj7 I've read the full novel from the start date , I have always rooted for the Prince but my point is the same that I'm fine with anyone as long as the female lead is happy...
@@astral5328 OMG 0-0 DOES ARISTIA-CHAN END UP WITH DA PRINCE!? COS IDK GIRL, BUT CARSEIN IS BEST BOIII FOR MY GIRL, ARISTIA COS CARSEIN AND ARISTIA ARE SO GOOD AND PERFECT TOGETHERRR XD 😂😂 the thing is I don't want Aristia-Chan to repeat the same fate she had in her past ;-; so it's best if she doesn't Sticky glue stay with the Prince Soz, Jieun is gonna come soooon Oof.
@@jen.kj7 yeah, honestly I just want to see Carsein and Aristia happy. It would have made me even happier if they found happiness together but I'm okay as long as Allendis just stays as far away from our girl as possible 🙃
I think it is very important that people see the prince as the current now (2nd timeline) instead of the (1st timeline). I mean how can you compare someone to a different timeline - Future can be change. It is unfair to compare someone to something that they haven't even experience yet. Yes, I do hate the prince in the 1st timeline but it is unjustified to compare the current to the 1st timeline. Without a doubt, if the Prince in the 2nd timeline make Tia sad again - I will hate him!!!!. Whoever Tia end up with - I'm happy for her as long as she is happy :) Edited 02/11/2020 I've read the book and read all the comments and other people opinions on other social media platform. This is my final opinion and thoughts about this webtoon/novel - I noticed that some people only know the ending of this novel. Didn't even read each character POV which I believe it is so important because only then you understand the context of this story. - This novel is about "love can conquer all" which is why 'who you' end up with 'you know who'. But i realized that some people compare the characters AS IF it is a real thing (like in the real life) because things like this rarely happens. So chill out people. Enjoy it as it is. The AUTHOR worked hard to write this story. Appreciate her work. - Lastly, if this story is really about "Self-Love" "Independent" etc. then Tia should not be with anyone. She should just be by herself. I don't have problem with it. In fact, I might enjoy it more because I myself haven't found any novels nor manhwa that the female protagonist ends up by herself. All in all, at the end of the day it is just a novel. We should just enjoy it and be kind to each other :)
Most people just care what the prince had done in the past but the now. He actually does improve a lot and show more of his inner side and feelings. That’s a huge character improvement to see too. We should give a chance to him, concern about what he does in the present but not just blame what he had done before.
@@teasis2309 Tia in the novel said she wasn't happy. She just forgave ruve and married him. But the novel actually said that there was no love to it which is kinda...yeah she trapped herself again
There might be some changes in 2nd Timeline as Ruve already got an idea that he hurt Tia. Though he's not sure if it was only Tia's dream or what - I am referring to the letter. Also he made some actions to protect Tia in this Timeline unlike the 1st one where he completely ignore Tia.
Unlike others, I genuinely think that Tia belongs together with Ruve. *SPOILER ALERT* Ruve went through a lot in his childhood, from people comparing Tia to Ruve, to Tia’s mother protecting her instead of Ruve, in front of his eyes, leaving him having to protect himself when they were being assassinated. Ruve has always been jealous of Tia, how Tia has taken everything away from him. Tia’s mother was very dear to Ruve, because, her and a duke (I don’t remember his name lol) were the only ones who “cared” about him. Or really, it was only Tia’s mother, I won’t get into details about the duke, you just need to know that he is a traitor, and an evil person. In the past life, Ruve was miserable ever since he was little, to top it off, the duke told Ruve lies about Tia, but of course, Ruve believed the duke, because he was the only one left that “cared” about him. His father never showed him any affection or love. He had always held a grudge against Tia. Then one day that JiHeun (soz Idk how her name is spelled, it’s different depending on who translated it) appeared, the evil duke convinced JiHeun that she should be loving towards Ruve, and make him fall in love with her, because Tia never loved him, Tia only ever wanted power. So then it happened, Ruve loved JiHeun deeply, and only JiHeun. You can see where this is going, right? Everyone turned their backs against Tia. Going perfectly according to the duke’s plan. [Ruve’s background explained] Then whatever happened next is written within the manhwa/novel. I’m not sure of how accurate this information is, but I read it somewhere on the internet, and seems many approved, so stick to your opinion.
i know right i dont know why they hate ruve so much when they haven't even understand it fully or finished it or even if they did why can't they understand that it's not ruve's fault. ps: read the novel too if you wanna understand it completely. it may seem ruve is a complete jerk in the manhwa but in the novel it was explained very thoroughly and the ruve in the first timeline really did love her it just that so may things happen and Vita is one of them she should have not send Jiheun there and everything fells apart. but in the second timeline it was saved for everything change that may affect what will happen to tia ex: her personality. i can't really explain it all since it's too many just read the novel and do some searching and you'll know that you're wrong saying ruve doesn't deserve ti. periodt. also he's beeing drugged by duke ***** and tia also that's why she couldn't give birth and her child died. that's all
Eve Ngo i think everyone want to die with you. Or kill Tia, because she is number one in top of terrible main character. I hope you understand my English
Spoiler: Unfortunately, in the end she will end up with the emperor who supposedly 'falls in love with her', even if he is the one who mistreated her in the worst ways in his old life...
I’m not really that far into “The Abandoned Empress” since I’m only on Chapter 107 but- (Please do not press read more if you do not want spoilers.) Carsien almost lost his eyesight and even his life for my girl Tia- So this boi got my vote- Although Ruve was a monster in the first chapters of “The Abandoned Empress”, the chapters that occurred after that showed a change of character that is worthy for my girl Tia too- ALLENDIS ON THE OTHER HAND- is a no no. He is extremely obsessive towards Tia (basically a yandere) thus showing how he could hurt her (which in later chapters I read did happen) This itself proved he is in no way going to positively affect Tia’s life besides you know when he was the first friend who showed her compassion and care and all that.
Remarried Empress. Similar plot but looks like it has a promising ending. It's weird to have Tia end up with that Prince when he treated her so wrong(I don't care if he was manipulated or something) he doesn't deserve her. Other guys treat her better than him.
But haven't you seen that in this world he cares for her but before he was not even considerate towards her and after knowing what he did in her past life he regretted and was always worried After sometime you may like the prince as well 😊😉
@@ZainabJ-u8q Still...Tia said in the novel she married him for his sake or like...formality. she doesn't ACTUALLY love him which is kinda sad. And who forgives someone who gave you psychological trauma (probably tia) in the end she trapped herself again in a life she doesn't like and as for Carsein and her i feel like they will be like the ultimate couple with trust and understanding. Carsein lost an EYE a literally EYE for Tia and you can't tell me that ain't FULL devotion
lol ppl hate him to the point they dropped this amazing manhwa, well, they missed out, and they’ll never understand why tia chose ruve.. I don’t like ruve, i LOVE HIM
For Ruve 1: let me slap you real hard, hopefully some sense will come back. Oh wait, it was never there. For Ruve 2: as long as Tia is happy with you I'm not saying anything. Treat her well.
Yeah instead I was hater in start but when I start to read more about ruve I love his character more than any other and I am pretty satisfied with the ending
(sorry for my very bad english) When I was reading the manhwa I really didnt care much if Tia ended with Ruves. Now reading the novel, even tough I dont hate Ruves, I'm really opposed with the idea of Tia and Ruves being together bc she has such a strong chemistry with Carsein. Carsein in the novel is so different from the manhwa one. In the manhwa He is more like a lively boy, but in the novel he is much more manly and flirts a lot, he really cares abt Tia. Sad that the author gave both Carsein and Allendis ( i do adore his characther even though he is a little obcessive - he'll get better after ), seems to me that their development just go to waste.
@@jen.kj7 I understand your point, I just really think that Carsein and Tia had a very good chemistry, that was wasted. Well, but I understand Tia’s choice, but I do hate love triangles. There is always that guy with perfect chemistry with MC but always ends up discarded.
Estuvo muy bueno, pero seria mejor que lo tradujeran al español, ya que no todos saben el idioma del inglés. Felicidades al autor o autores de este maravillosa historia, "La Emperatriz Abandonada"
There is two kind of people who read this manhwa. Those who adores the story and the ml. Those kind are open minded and accepting of changes regardless of the bad circumstances Tia had to put up with. . And then there is another side who read this manhwa. Dissapointed is the best word to describes the feeling. Felt that fl going back to her obsession with the prince I guess her pTSD isnt a true PTSD. The PTSD people I know althou they pity their abusers they forgive them wholeheartedly but they never went back to become friend with their abusers. It's good they change but even better they become a better person good. But never want to involved oneself in them again the damage had been done. One can move one even without having to involved with their abusers. This is whai manu fall in this category because 1. Tia desserve better person. A person who kind in all state of mind not bevause of sobs arse back story. However, so long Tia is happy well thats all that matters but this story could be better. I will never want to recommend this to anyone is infirruiating
It makes no sense that tia literally ended up with someone who had traumatized her. In one chapter she had a panic attack. But later her trauma was never shown.
Carsein is literally a door that can lead tia to escape her fate and truly be loved,plus be able to keep being an honorable knight which is something she has worked on ever since she was little,i really dont know what the ending of the manhwa will be,but i hope tia makes the right choice amd everyone gets a happy ending
Lol I would love to see that ending but sadly it wasn't. I loved her father a lot uk. I have been searching for fan-fics of the same but sadly found only 2 or 3 😭. Anyways... I would be Papa gang for sure... 😄
Oh please no the moment this manhwa hits america market ya know they gotta burn this manhwa to bits because eh the fl falls for her abusers kind of arguent. It gotta hurt so no. Even when it stands as it is it received tons of blacklash reviews already i cannot 🤧
Why does everyone hate Ruze? Like I know he was a jerk I’m the 1st timeline but here’s the thing he under some type of poison that would cause him to be a real jerk owo. After Tia died Jieun later on told Tia what happened while she was dead in the 2nd Timeline she said that Ruze was fine at first but realizes the he started to miss her and realizes that he loves Tia.
I hate him because he is a boring. He doesn't have friends,hobbies or something. The only thing he care about it is Tia, but only because she stopped acting like a cold woman. And he really obsessed her and that's a scary thing. P.S. The poison make everything worse than it was before
I feel like Jieun is going to go mad then she'llget naenae'd on by Aristia XD That's what I'm hoping at least, they could have been good friends if the prince didn't abandoned Aristia like before
I m only sad because author made Allen a psychopath. I don't care about Tia being end up with anyone of them. I just wanted the three to have a fair fight but suddenly the author ruin the perfect character.Allen would have been the best for Tia if he didn't turn out to be a psycho. Anyways i m happy that he was the one who make Tia feel better when she came back to life again
(please be up to date on webtoon before reading my rant. not much spoilers but just incase) Best boy/man is clearly the dad!! but talking love interset wise Caresin is the only decent one. At this point, it isn't even a competition, yet i have this feeling that if she does end up with someone it won't be him (getting major second lead syndrome vibesss). Allen you abit crazyy but u had the spirit, hope u get the help u need and have a speedy recovery. Ohhh n for the crowned prince don't ever worry about no one praying for you, because i will be constantly praying, praying for your downfall that is. There is absolutely no redemption for that one. I would understand if he was abit jealous but what he did was unforgivable and uncalled for. I wanna see him suffer - what happened to the law of equivalent exchange??? It's not sitting right with me how he is switching up in this new timeline and how she is getting comfortable (? idk maybe wrong word choice, feeling less uneased) trauma don't just leave like that. Why are they making them seem like a couple??? That should be ILLEGALLL. There was really no point of her resolve if the do end up together or even friendly friendly
NOTHING JUSTIFIES KILLING YOUR OWN CHILD IN WOMB AND NOT BEING REMORSEFUL ABOUT IT . There I said it. I'm fine with her ending up with absolutely anyone other than the trash prince.
@@ItsChristenDeAlgerHe still gave her personal trauma and yes he did change but i just hate the fact he gets to have her without tia even giving him a taste of his own medicine. HE GAVE HER PSYCHOLOGICAL TRAUMA LIKE WTF? YOU FORGIVE SOMEONE WHO DOES THAT?
Personal Opinion : - I THINK IT'S JUST FAIR THAT TIA DID END UP WITH YOU KNOW WHOM. BECAUSE EVERYTHING WAS A COMPLETE MISUNDERSTANDING, BETRAYALS, LIE AND LACK OF LOVE SUPPORT + DRUGS AND THAT VITA ( I HATE HER -,- ) IF YOU READ THE NOVEL AND KNOW THE REASONS AND EVERYTHING AS TO WHY IT HAPPEN ( 1ST TIMELINE ) PLUS I LOVE HOW THIS MANGA SHOWS THAT EVERYTHING CAN CHANGE AND WE MUST NOT LIVE IN THE PAST BUT TO MOVE ON AND FORGET + FORGIVE. I HATE HOW PEOPLE WOULD GO ON THE PRINCE THAT THEY HATE HIM EVEN THO THEY DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED ENTIRELY IN THE MANHWA OR EVEN IF THEY DID THEY JUST CANT SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT EVERY CAUSES OF IT LEAD TO THAT DRASTIC THING HAPPENNG; RUVE IS ALSO A PRISONER OF HIS OWN FATE AND SO IS TIA. LIKE CAN YOU JUST PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS NOT RUVE'S FAULT? IT'S UNFAIR THAT YOU'RE TRASH TALKING RUVE OR HATING HIM WHEN YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT EXPERIENCE AND NOT GONE THROUGH IT. REMEMBER IF YOU WANT TO JUDGE SOMEONE LOOK INTO THEIR PERSPECTIVE AND PUT YOUR SELF IN THEIR SHOES. BECAUSE YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND IT IF YOU JUST LET YOUR EMOTIONS DRIVE YOU.
What i dont like is the portrayal of her so called 'psychological trauma' ruve maybe drugged and what not but when we look at it from tia's perspective you can never forgive your abuser no matter how much reason they throw at you and psychological trauma isnt to be taken lightly
Imo their arguement make sens tbh. this excuse u made is like u shouldnt fight the bully because they came from a poor family bg! Im like no abuser is still an abuser. Just because the guy have sobs story it doesnt justify his domestic violence. So major nope nope for me
@@jen.kj7 Carsein also has a child named Gradis that looks exactly like him and is a close friend of Tia's daughter, Diana who also looks exactly like her. So in a way, the ship still sails.
I wanna spoil something so if you don't want, don't click show more... I WARNED YOU . . . . . . . . . . So, Duke Jena is behind everything. Even the events of the past! He poisoned both Aristia and Ruve 3 years after Tia's death, Ruve and Jieun got into a fight on how much better Tia is than her Jieun got pregnant with a girl and when Ruve heard this, he fled the palace because he knows Duke Jena is gonna kill him to make the baby the successor and he still died In his last breath, he looked at the moon (symbolism for empress) and said he loves her and would want to see her again... I hate this past emperor who could even dare to say that! After Jieun gave birth, she died in the hands of Duke Jena When she went back in time, she chose to be in the Jena family to be a spy .Fast Forward to the current timeline. Jieun have divine powers but it is not complete, she can't heal others She also warned Carsein about the plan of Duke Jena to kill Tia They prevented it but Tia almost died, but didn't because Jieun used her wish to make Tia alive. Making her lose her divine powers and make her hair white After that the Jena family was proven guilty of their crimes and sentenced to death. Since Jieun is part of the Jena family, she had to die. But because she saved Tia, Ruve and the Monique family faked her death by suicide and hid her in the Lisa kingdom for 5 years Ruve recited the blood oath to Tia even though SHE was the one to recite it since she is lower than the emperor. The first time Tia recited the blood oath to Ruve, he declined it because a blood oath requires a wish and Tia's wish is to become the successor of her family. When Ruve recited it, his wish is to love her forever will all of EVERTHING (i don't want to list it) Tia and Ruve became husband and wife and had 3 or 4 children I think (I forgot) The eldest was a girl that looked like Tia and their other child was twins, a boy and a girl After 10 years, Allen came back to inherit his father's title since his brother died Carsein and Jieun married (Not official but the description of his wife is so much like Jieun) FINALLY, when Marquis Monique died, Tia found out about the truth of the thing that Ruve took when he was young. It was some kind of pass so that the Monique family could get off treason. In the past, the marquis used it but Ruve was an ahole and still made Tia being exceuted Also, in the past, only the marquis stayed by Ruve's side even though he killed Tia because it was the final order of the previous emperor. The two dukes left Ruve because they only promised that they will stand by the emperor if he is believes like the previous one. That's all! These are the only major detail here. I didn't add the facts about duke jena's secret son, the crownw or about the 3 high priest, It would take me forever to write about everything
i decided to see the manga but when i saw the comment section and how she melted to the prince again in her second life and didnt end up (?) with the red hair guy,,, i decided again not to.
I think "Pioneer" is referred to "one who want to change their fate or to make it different from before" while "Graspe" is more like "one who bound with certain fate". As we know ruve, tia, and jieun were tangled in a overlapping fate. But in this second life, tia is trying to run away from her devastated end. So the ending might be changed. Cmiiw. It is just my opinion 🙈
I really want Aristia end up marry the prince. I actually dislike Jieun. Aristia was heartbroken when she heard that the prince married Jieun so I want Aristia to be happy with him but the thing is that she have to choose to be a knight or a princess. I want her to be both and marry the prince tho ;^;
You know that, It was her fate in her first life as Aristia, All the romance and love for the Prince was forced on her own will, because Vita (the god in the story) said that Aristia was only a substitute for Jieun to enter in a different time from a different world , so Basically Aristia 'Loves' the Prince by her own will and ended up dying cos - so that's why she is granted with a second life, But I highly doubt Aristia still so called 'Loves' the Prince.
Well, as if that was not. Everyone already hates this manhwa. I also used to adore and sympathize with the main character. But she fell in love with that dreadful Prince again. She doesn't learn anything and doesn't have any pride. Many of us have already removed our grades and given one star out of five. Very sorry for Allendis and Carsein.
But in the 2nd timeline, Ruve is just different and really loves Aristia. Yes, he was really terrible in the past that he did terrible things to her but that’s just not what happens in present. Ruve has changed since Aristia has changed, he isn’t the one we hate in the beginning of the story already. I am not saying that we should ignore what he had done to Aristia in the 1st timeline, but what we should concern about more should be the present. Ruve deserves more love but not hatred.
@@gladyschan-c4h You see the thing is Tia already swore it on her lifetime that she wouldn't do it and secondly i didn't like how he just gets to have her without knowing how muc trauma he gave her. Yes he is different in the timeline but whos to say that she forgot she reincarnated and everything happens again? Carsein has my full vote on this one their chemistry is just too strong. But well i stopped reading it so meh
the sentence is wrong it's suppose to be *Now, tia is standing at the crossroads of destiny to become the successor of the family as an honorary knight* right...?
Pls im kinda disappointed with the ending. Yes she ended up with ruve and i was happy but, Carsein was done so dirty he deserves the world. I think if Aristia ended up with Carsein i would be happier.
I really hope the manhuw changes then the novel sein lost his eyes for her (his sight returned) he was the best wasn’t overboard like Allen ( Allen is still better then the prince) and he wasn’t so dramatic like the prince he he was in his right mind Plus he is the most good looking
i just got spoiled about who is endgame n u know what??? i dont even care *tears* screw love interset *more tears*. Let's just focus on her relationship with her dad or the plot revolving around the second girl. LIke im so curious about her. pretty made she is representing us modern people but we move
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You can read the official translations of ""The Abandoned Empress"" on the following platforms
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I must admit. . .she looks fricking cool in her blue knight uniform
Lia & Friends so true
Very true.
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Really tho the only way for Tia to completely escape her first fate is by being with Carsein. Allen is obsessive to the point he wants to lock up her for himself and with Ruve she’ll just end up like her 1st life contrary to her so called determination to ‘escape her fate’ lmao i really hate it here because at the first part she was so determine to be strong and escape her fate but in the middle of the way, she melted yet again for the prince. *sigh. If she ends up with Carsein, not only she can be a knight(which being an empress will sacrifice her that privilege) but she can be the heiress of her household and their name can be inherited to her future generations without problems because Carsein is a second child and not the heir of De Rass family. Smh ofc it’s just my opinion tho.
Wow you got the point. But I wonder it for awhile since Carsein is Ruve's cousin and his family, of course, belongs to imperial faction I dont see it will work. Compare to Allendis, Tia seems only see Carsein as good friend. While with Allendis it is deeper because he was her first-ever-made-friend. As much as I hate the idea Tia will end up with Ruve, but it is what will happen likely. I also just found that Ruve is not j*** in actual. He loves Tia deeply but he was manipulated. Either way, I just want Tia to pursue her happiness, freedom, and pride for herself
NSMajlan nah her present life is already very different from her past life, she had already escaped that cruel fate, if you can't tell. The prince is no longer jealous of her, and instead loves her. And this time, he would most definitely pick Tia over Jieun, unless Tia wishes for otherwise. Meanwhile Carsein does seem like a good partner, all Tia sees in him is a good friend. I doubt Tia had ever considered getting together with Carsein. Ruve and Carsein are relatives, I doubt we can get a happy ending out of that.
@@lyuunuu Yeah it's been pointed out a ton that Ruve is A) a completely different person from his 1st life (as in via time travel he is literally and entirely different entity) and B) at this point without spoiling things there's really no possibility of him ending up like his 1st Timeline self.
@@lyuunuu yes but the thing is at the novel she stated HERSELF she wasnt happy and only married him for his sake. There was no love in it. She fell in...AGAIN
@@ailavonsweet8760 Where did it say that? The epilogue mentions that they had a happily married life with Tia as a dominant force as the Empress while Ruve supported her and did most of the work fathering their kids.
SPOILER:
And if you were talking about Ruve storming off during the knighting ceremony, the two already fell for each other but Tia wanted to succeed her Father until Ruve pulled strings so she could do both and split passing on her title and the throne between her two children. She had a whole conversation about loving Ruve with Jieun literally a few chapters before.
Idk about you but tia's father is my favorite i love him
Oh my gosh me too. Im like "Papa is the best"
Same he’s so hot 😍😍
Same💜 its one of the few fathers in manhwas/mangas the i like
True.. im willing to be Tia's stepmom 😄
Tia and Leslie's (adoptive) father are the best
The only one that deserves to be by Tia's side and will treat her as an equal is Carsein. He is best boy and that is final.
appa yip yip agreed,As much as I ship her with allendis,I believe that she belongs with carsein not that son of a bitch who cheated on her😑😑😑😑
I totally 100% agree. I will always ship them.
AGREED
I want her with Carsein too because he was the perfect guy for her.
I feel same.
I really want her to end up with Allendis or Carson. Or anyone other than the emperor. And hope she becomes one hell of a knight!
Kofuku Ebisu , I love Carson .... he is the only normal out of the 3 😻
I will love carsein, but i read spoiler and it tell that she is with his majesty
Silvana Salazar Schiller after reading the spoilers in detail, the prince is actually quite tragic and everything was just a huge mess lol forum.novelupdates.com/threads/the-abandoned-empress.43439/page-23 also this forum has in-depth and detailed explanations if you or anyone else feels like reading it
Sorry to spoil but she ends up with the prince
@@jen.kj7 I've read the full novel from the start date , I have always rooted for the Prince but my point is the same that I'm fine with anyone as long as the female lead is happy...
I want Aristia to end up with Carsein :D I ship them together, forever!! Aristia × Carsein foreverrr!
Eclipse_Mage HIGH FIVE
@@astral5328 Yessssssss!!! *HIGH FIVE* JOIN THE GANG OF CARSEIN × ARISTIA!!! :D
Eclipse_Mage AYYY
Eclipse_Mage EVEN IF I SHIP ALLENDIS AND HER I STILL THINK CARSEIN IS THE BEST BOI FOR HER EVN THO SHELL END UP WITH THAT BLUEBERRY!!!😂😂
@@astral5328 OMG 0-0 DOES ARISTIA-CHAN END UP WITH DA PRINCE!? COS IDK GIRL, BUT CARSEIN IS BEST BOIII FOR MY GIRL, ARISTIA COS CARSEIN AND ARISTIA ARE SO GOOD AND PERFECT TOGETHERRR XD 😂😂
the thing is I don't want Aristia-Chan to repeat the same fate she had in her past ;-; so it's best if she doesn't Sticky glue stay with the Prince Soz, Jieun is gonna come soooon Oof.
I think rove's sentence, more like wish "Can you see me as who I am?" is meant for his haters more then tia -w-
Hey, what Ruve was saying was that Ruve wanted Tia to see him not as emperor but as a person in general
LET ARISTIA x CARSIEN BE CANON!!!!
Najwa Putri YAASSSSS
Let's start a petition!!
Yes pls
@@jen.kj7 yeah, honestly I just want to see Carsein and Aristia happy. It would have made me even happier if they found happiness together but I'm okay as long as Allendis just stays as far away from our girl as possible 🙃
@@jen.kj7 the fact that people still want him to end up with her even after all he's done and hate Ruve instead...💀
I think it is very important that people see the prince as the current now (2nd timeline) instead of the (1st timeline). I mean how can you compare someone to a different timeline - Future can be change. It is unfair to compare someone to something that they haven't even experience yet.
Yes, I do hate the prince in the 1st timeline but it is unjustified to compare the current to the 1st timeline. Without a doubt, if the Prince in the 2nd timeline make Tia sad again - I will hate him!!!!.
Whoever Tia end up with - I'm happy for her as long as she is happy :)
Edited 02/11/2020
I've read the book and read all the comments and other people opinions on other social media platform.
This is my final opinion and thoughts about this webtoon/novel
- I noticed that some people only know the ending of this novel. Didn't even read each character POV which I believe it is so important because only then you understand the context of this story.
- This novel is about "love can conquer all" which is why 'who you' end up with 'you know who'. But i realized that some people compare the characters AS IF it is a real thing (like in the real life) because things like this rarely happens. So chill out people. Enjoy it as it is. The AUTHOR worked hard to write this story. Appreciate her work.
- Lastly, if this story is really about "Self-Love" "Independent" etc. then Tia should not be with anyone. She should just be by herself. I don't have problem with it. In fact, I might enjoy it more because I myself haven't found any novels nor manhwa that the female protagonist ends up by herself.
All in all, at the end of the day it is just a novel. We should just enjoy it and be kind to each other :)
Right absolutely right
Yeah true the prince in the second timeline is completely innocent and shouldn’t be held accountable for things he didn’t even do
Most people just care what the prince had done in the past but the now. He actually does improve a lot and show more of his inner side and feelings. That’s a huge character improvement to see too. We should give a chance to him, concern about what he does in the present but not just blame what he had done before.
@@teasis2309 Tia in the novel said she wasn't happy. She just forgave ruve and married him. But the novel actually said that there was no love to it which is kinda...yeah she trapped herself again
There might be some changes in 2nd Timeline as Ruve already got an idea that he hurt Tia. Though he's not sure if it was only Tia's dream or what - I am referring to the letter. Also he made some actions to protect Tia in this Timeline unlike the 1st one where he completely ignore Tia.
Unlike others, I genuinely think that Tia belongs together with Ruve.
*SPOILER ALERT*
Ruve went through a lot in his childhood, from people comparing Tia to Ruve, to Tia’s mother protecting her instead of Ruve, in front of his eyes, leaving him having to protect himself when they were being assassinated. Ruve has always been jealous of Tia, how Tia has taken everything away from him. Tia’s mother was very dear to Ruve, because, her and a duke (I don’t remember his name lol) were the only ones who “cared” about him. Or really, it was only Tia’s mother, I won’t get into details about the duke, you just need to know that he is a traitor, and an evil person. In the past life, Ruve was miserable ever since he was little, to top it off, the duke told Ruve lies about Tia, but of course, Ruve believed the duke, because he was the only one left that “cared” about him. His father never showed him any affection or love. He had always held a grudge against Tia. Then one day that JiHeun (soz Idk how her name is spelled, it’s different depending on who translated it) appeared, the evil duke convinced JiHeun that she should be loving towards Ruve, and make him fall in love with her, because Tia never loved him, Tia only ever wanted power. So then it happened, Ruve loved JiHeun deeply, and only JiHeun. You can see where this is going, right? Everyone turned their backs against Tia. Going perfectly according to the duke’s plan. [Ruve’s background explained]
Then whatever happened next is written within the manhwa/novel. I’m not sure of how accurate this information is, but I read it somewhere on the internet, and seems many approved, so stick to your opinion.
Yayyy I too ship Tia X Ruve 💓
i know right i dont know why they hate ruve so much when they haven't even understand it fully or finished it or even if they did why can't they understand that it's not ruve's fault.
ps: read the novel too if you wanna understand it completely. it may seem ruve is a complete jerk in the manhwa but in the novel it was explained very thoroughly and the ruve in the first timeline really did love her it just that so may things happen and Vita is one of them she should have not send Jiheun there and everything fells apart. but in the second timeline it was saved for everything change that may affect what will happen to tia ex: her personality. i can't really explain it all since it's too many just read the novel and do some searching and you'll know that you're wrong saying ruve doesn't deserve ti. periodt. also he's beeing drugged by duke ***** and tia also that's why she couldn't give birth and her child died. that's all
_mini somi_ hey do you know where can I get the novel in English? I’ve been searching everywhere and I don’t find it. You would help me a lot🥺🥺🥺
Tia x Ruve ever since I started reading
@@alondrachinchillahernandez8737 I heard it's on webnovel but I'm not sure tho
... Who read the spoilers and just want to die like me ?😂
Eve Ngo i think everyone want to die with you. Or kill Tia, because she is number one in top of terrible main character. I hope you understand my English
@@АрианаМерекеева You think just like me ! I am not English so don't worry, I understood ! 😂
Bruh, same. At this point, I'm only here for the art.
I think at 0:26 there's the phrase "BY PRINCESS RUVELISS " ..... I wonder if I need to go for an eye exam ...!
I SHIP HER WITH CARSEIN BRUHH I FIND HIM SO HANDSOME
Oh PRINCESS RUVELLISS!
Spoiler:
Unfortunately, in the end she will end up with the emperor who supposedly 'falls in love with her', even if he is the one who mistreated her in the worst ways in his old life...
:')
But- does she once again get the position of Queen? Or does the become the Empress??
@@paxiswrld She will become Empress
Gabriela Tofan where the heck do u read the chapters past 117? im going berserk trying to find it
@@paxiswrld She become Empress
I’m not really that far into “The Abandoned Empress” since I’m only on Chapter 107 but-
(Please do not press read more if you do not want spoilers.)
Carsien almost lost his eyesight and even his life for my girl Tia- So this boi got my vote-
Although Ruve was a monster in the first chapters of “The Abandoned Empress”, the chapters that occurred after that showed a change of character that is worthy for my girl Tia too-
ALLENDIS ON THE OTHER HAND- is a no no. He is extremely obsessive towards Tia (basically a yandere) thus showing how he could hurt her (which in later chapters I read did happen) This itself proved he is in no way going to positively affect Tia’s life besides you know when he was the first friend who showed her compassion and care and all that.
We have the same opinion tho hohoho
I can fix allendis 🤩✌ I can fix him 😇😇😁😁
I want her to be with Allendis or Carsein. DAMN
mai me tooooooo
Lol its Carsein xD
Me too.... I hate that Ruve since he made her lick his shoe and executed her father without proper reason in the beginning of the story
CARSEIN MY DUDE MAKE YOUR MOVES BEFORE SOMEONE DOES!!
The soundtrack is soo good ! Can’t get enough ~~
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This is the soundtrack 😍
Remarried Empress. Similar plot but looks like it has a promising ending. It's weird to have Tia end up with that Prince when he treated her so wrong(I don't care if he was manipulated or something) he doesn't deserve her. Other guys treat her better than him.
YEE
Remarried Empress is at least a bit different as Navier won't end up with a man who cause her having a miserable life
So true...I agree with you..no matter what happens..what the crown prince has done is not forgiveable 😑😑😑
But haven't you seen that in this world he cares for her but before he was not even considerate towards her and after knowing what he did in her past life he regretted and was always worried
After sometime you may like the prince as well 😊😉
@@ZainabJ-u8q Still...Tia said in the novel she married him for his sake or like...formality. she doesn't ACTUALLY love him which is kinda sad. And who forgives someone who gave you psychological trauma (probably tia) in the end she trapped herself again in a life she doesn't like and as for Carsein and her i feel like they will be like the ultimate couple with trust and understanding. Carsein lost an EYE a literally EYE for Tia and you can't tell me that ain't FULL devotion
Unpopular opinion: I like Ruve
To be fair I read through the light novel and the journey. Ruve ready isn’t that bad in the redo of life
same here
lol ppl hate him to the point they dropped this amazing manhwa, well, they missed out, and they’ll never understand why tia chose ruve.. I don’t like ruve, i LOVE HIM
For Ruve 1: let me slap you real hard, hopefully some sense will come back. Oh wait, it was never there.
For Ruve 2: as long as Tia is happy with you I'm not saying anything. Treat her well.
Yeah instead I was hater in start but when I start to read more about ruve I love his character more than any other and I am pretty satisfied with the ending
@@s4_ra same 🤗🤗
(sorry for my very bad english)
When I was reading the manhwa I really didnt care much if Tia ended with Ruves. Now reading the novel, even tough I dont hate Ruves, I'm really opposed with the idea of Tia and Ruves being together bc she has such a strong chemistry with Carsein. Carsein in the novel is so different from the manhwa one. In the manhwa He is more like a lively boy, but in the novel he is much more manly and flirts a lot, he really cares abt Tia. Sad that the author gave both Carsein and Allendis ( i do adore his characther even though he is a little obcessive - he'll get better after ), seems to me that their development just go to waste.
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Hey, can you tell me where did you read the novel? If online is possible? I really want to read novel.
@@jen.kj7 I understand your point, I just really think that Carsein and Tia had a very good chemistry, that was wasted. Well, but I understand Tia’s choice, but I do hate love triangles. There is always that guy with perfect chemistry with MC but always ends up discarded.
@@Nあけみ Yeah, I got that. Thank you very much for sharing it.😊
@@jen.kj7 you are totally right!
she looks like a badass in her signature monique knight uniform, it fits her personality and the future she wants 💎
i hope there will be alternate ending with carsein
Big same, and carsein is best boi and dont like what happened to him in recent chapters in the manga
I don’t know about you guys but
Papa Keiran is 😤💖
Ofc im papa keirean antusiast too 🤝
Estuvo muy bueno, pero seria mejor que lo tradujeran al español, ya que no todos saben el idioma del inglés.
Felicidades al autor o autores de este maravillosa historia, "La Emperatriz Abandonada"
This webtoon needs to be an anime it would do good.
I hope the manhwa would take a slightly different path than the novel
Sadly it doesn’t,sorry.😢😢
Why? Mind to spoil?
Amen to that
@@xofantaxoo4690 because the ending is shit
Do you know where to read the novel?
can't wait to see jieun come. it will be MOARRR drama 😏
All kings and knights aside, the best character must be the prince's asistent, Haren. I mean, come on, THE DUDE CAN READ MINDS!
There is two kind of people who read this manhwa. Those who adores the story and the ml. Those kind are open minded and accepting of changes regardless of the bad circumstances Tia had to put up with.
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And then there is another side who read this manhwa. Dissapointed is the best word to describes the feeling. Felt that fl going back to her obsession with the prince I guess her pTSD isnt a true PTSD. The PTSD people I know althou they pity their abusers they forgive them wholeheartedly but they never went back to become friend with their abusers. It's good they change but even better they become a better person good. But never want to involved oneself in them again the damage had been done. One can move one even without having to involved with their abusers. This is whai manu fall in this category because 1. Tia desserve better person. A person who kind in all state of mind not bevause of sobs arse back story.
However, so long Tia is happy well thats all that matters but this story could be better. I will never want to recommend this to anyone is infirruiating
It makes no sense that tia literally ended up with someone who had traumatized her. In one chapter she had a panic attack. But later her trauma was never shown.
Carsein is literally a door that can lead tia to escape her fate and truly be loved,plus be able to keep being an honorable knight which is something she has worked on ever since she was little,i really dont know what the ending of the manhwa will be,but i hope tia makes the right choice amd everyone gets a happy ending
I think the end game should be Tia x her Father Being happy For ever in there Mansion with all her friend period.
Lol I would love to see that ending but sadly it wasn't. I loved her father a lot uk. I have been searching for fan-fics of the same but sadly found only 2 or 3 😭. Anyways... I would be Papa gang for sure... 😄
hoping for anime adaptation
kath simbulan Yeah,me too!
But hopefully with different ending
Oh please no the moment this manhwa hits america market ya know they gotta burn this manhwa to bits because eh the fl falls for her abusers kind of arguent. It gotta hurt so no. Even when it stands as it is it received tons of blacklash reviews already i cannot 🤧
Aristia x Carsein is the best ship TvT
PS Princia is rly pretty ☺️
I SHIP CARSEIN AND TIA, NO ONE CAN CHANGE MY MIND
Why does everyone hate Ruze? Like I know he was a jerk I’m the 1st timeline but here’s the thing he under some type of poison that would cause him to be a real jerk owo. After Tia died Jieun later on told Tia what happened while she was dead in the 2nd Timeline she said that Ruze was fine at first but realizes the he started to miss her and realizes that he loves Tia.
I hate him because he is a boring. He doesn't have friends,hobbies or something. The only thing he care about it is Tia, but only because she stopped acting like a cold woman. And he really obsessed her and that's a scary thing.
P.S. The poison make everything worse than it was before
I feel like Jieun is going to go mad then she'llget naenae'd on by Aristia XD That's what I'm hoping at least, they could have been good friends if the prince didn't abandoned Aristia like before
RenPotato yeah,I know right?
and now i thinking of it, i want to see this to be animated
Am I the only one who NOTICED PRINCESS RUVELIS
0:26 princess ruveliss lol 🤣🤣
I m only sad because author made Allen a psychopath. I don't care about Tia being end up with anyone of them. I just wanted the three to have a fair fight but suddenly the author ruin the perfect character.Allen would have been the best for Tia if he didn't turn out to be a psycho. Anyways i m happy that he was the one who make Tia feel better when she came back to life again
The video is super awesome 😍😍
for sure love at first sight with tia's dad
Where can I find The Abandoned Empress ?
This looks like a trailer for an Otome game
What is backsound?
this is so LIT!
Reading the end :
Me:..ok f*** it. If you don’t take carsein i take him !
What app did they use for this trailer???
is it just me but the prince/ kings are alwayyyssss the WORRSSSSSTTTTTTTTT
sheeeeeeeet, i want her to end up with carseeeein !
But I can't find it on webtoon..
0:25 오타남ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 루벨리스 공주 됐어...ㅠㅠ 고쳐주세요 디앤씨
can someone link down below the website where i can read the novel?
Unpopular opinion: Carsein and Jieun deserve better.
AAAAA love this manhwa sm
I wanna know where can I read this plz I've been searching for it on every comic app
How's the melody called?
Personally, I think if Aristia could tread her path quite carefully and cautiously, then she'd be just fine with reaching her goals, right? 💭🤔
where can I read this?
(please be up to date on webtoon before reading my rant. not much spoilers but just incase)
Best boy/man is clearly the dad!! but talking love interset wise Caresin is the only decent one. At this point, it isn't even a competition, yet i have this feeling that if she does end up with someone it won't be him (getting major second lead syndrome vibesss). Allen you abit crazyy but u had the spirit, hope u get the help u need and have a speedy recovery. Ohhh n for the crowned prince don't ever worry about no one praying for you, because i will be constantly praying, praying for your downfall that is. There is absolutely no redemption for that one. I would understand if he was abit jealous but what he did was unforgivable and uncalled for. I wanna see him suffer - what happened to the law of equivalent exchange??? It's not sitting right with me how he is switching up in this new timeline and how she is getting comfortable (? idk maybe wrong word choice, feeling less uneased) trauma don't just leave like that. Why are they making them seem like a couple??? That should be ILLEGALLL. There was really no point of her resolve if the do end up together or even friendly friendly
NOTHING JUSTIFIES KILLING YOUR OWN CHILD IN WOMB AND NOT BEING REMORSEFUL ABOUT IT .
There I said it.
I'm fine with her ending up with absolutely anyone other than the trash prince.
He didn't do it on purpose and the prince from the 1st timeline and the prince from the 2nd are nothing alike
@@ItsChristenDeAlgerHe still gave her personal trauma and yes he did change but i just hate the fact he gets to have her without tia even giving him a taste of his own medicine. HE GAVE HER PSYCHOLOGICAL TRAUMA LIKE WTF? YOU FORGIVE SOMEONE WHO DOES THAT?
Anyone know the song name?
Personal Opinion :
- I THINK IT'S JUST FAIR THAT TIA DID END UP WITH YOU KNOW WHOM. BECAUSE EVERYTHING WAS A COMPLETE MISUNDERSTANDING, BETRAYALS, LIE AND LACK OF LOVE SUPPORT + DRUGS AND THAT VITA ( I HATE HER -,- ) IF YOU READ THE NOVEL AND KNOW THE REASONS AND EVERYTHING AS TO WHY IT HAPPEN ( 1ST TIMELINE ) PLUS I LOVE HOW THIS MANGA SHOWS THAT EVERYTHING CAN CHANGE AND WE MUST NOT LIVE IN THE PAST BUT TO MOVE ON AND FORGET + FORGIVE. I HATE HOW PEOPLE WOULD GO ON THE PRINCE THAT THEY HATE HIM EVEN THO THEY DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED ENTIRELY IN THE MANHWA OR EVEN IF THEY DID THEY JUST CANT SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT EVERY CAUSES OF IT LEAD TO THAT DRASTIC THING HAPPENNG; RUVE IS ALSO A PRISONER OF HIS OWN FATE AND SO IS TIA. LIKE CAN YOU JUST PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS NOT RUVE'S FAULT? IT'S UNFAIR THAT YOU'RE TRASH TALKING RUVE OR HATING HIM WHEN YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT EXPERIENCE AND NOT GONE THROUGH IT. REMEMBER IF YOU WANT TO JUDGE SOMEONE LOOK INTO THEIR PERSPECTIVE AND PUT YOUR SELF IN THEIR SHOES. BECAUSE YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND IT IF YOU JUST LET YOUR EMOTIONS DRIVE YOU.
What i dont like is the portrayal of her so called 'psychological trauma' ruve maybe drugged and what not but when we look at it from tia's perspective you can never forgive your abuser no matter how much reason they throw at you and psychological trauma isnt to be taken lightly
Imo their arguement make sens tbh. this excuse u made is like u shouldnt fight the bully because they came from a poor family bg! Im like no abuser is still an abuser. Just because the guy have sobs story it doesnt justify his domestic violence. So major nope nope for me
I couldn't find this in webtoon....... QwQ
Idc just somebody tell me what happens to Carsein in the end
@@jen.kj7 Carsein also has a child named Gradis that looks exactly like him and is a close friend of Tia's daughter, Diana who also looks exactly like her. So in a way, the ship still sails.
I wish they make an anime out of this
Can somebody tell me the name of the song, please?
Jincheng Zhang - Pool
@@ghitaharcha8755 Thank you:)
What about Allen?
I wanna spoil something so if you don't want, don't click show more...
I WARNED YOU
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So, Duke Jena is behind everything. Even the events of the past!
He poisoned both Aristia and Ruve
3 years after Tia's death, Ruve and Jieun got into a fight on how much better Tia is than her
Jieun got pregnant with a girl and when Ruve heard this, he fled the palace because he knows Duke Jena is gonna kill him to make the baby the successor and he still died
In his last breath, he looked at the moon (symbolism for empress) and said he loves her and would want to see her again... I hate this past emperor who could even dare to say that!
After Jieun gave birth, she died in the hands of Duke Jena
When she went back in time, she chose to be in the Jena family to be a spy
.Fast Forward to the current timeline.
Jieun have divine powers but it is not complete, she can't heal others
She also warned Carsein about the plan of Duke Jena to kill Tia
They prevented it but Tia almost died, but didn't because Jieun used her wish to make Tia alive. Making her lose her divine powers and make her hair white
After that the Jena family was proven guilty of their crimes and sentenced to death. Since Jieun is part of the Jena family, she had to die.
But because she saved Tia, Ruve and the Monique family faked her death by suicide and hid her in the Lisa kingdom for 5 years
Ruve recited the blood oath to Tia even though SHE was the one to recite it since she is lower than the emperor.
The first time Tia recited the blood oath to Ruve, he declined it because a blood oath requires a wish and Tia's wish is to become the successor of her family. When Ruve recited it, his wish is to love her forever will all of EVERTHING (i don't want to list it)
Tia and Ruve became husband and wife and had 3 or 4 children I think (I forgot)
The eldest was a girl that looked like Tia and their other child was twins, a boy and a girl
After 10 years, Allen came back to inherit his father's title since his brother died
Carsein and Jieun married (Not official but the description of his wife is so much like Jieun)
FINALLY, when Marquis Monique died, Tia found out about the truth of the thing that Ruve took when he was young. It was some kind of pass so that the Monique family could get off treason. In the past, the marquis used it but Ruve was an ahole and still made Tia being exceuted
Also, in the past, only the marquis stayed by Ruve's side even though he killed Tia because it was the final order of the previous emperor. The two dukes left Ruve because they only promised that they will stand by the emperor if he is believes like the previous one.
That's all! These are the only major detail here. I didn't add the facts about duke jena's secret son, the crownw or about the 3 high priest, It would take me forever to write about everything
Have a Good day everyone!
Where can I follow it
BG music anyone?
Who knows what chapter ruve's pov?
forget the three boys i love her father
Where can I read the manhwa I literally cannot find a good website.
이건 내가 제일 좋아하는 만화이자 친구들
Para los que dicen que este tipo de manhwas son aburridos y solo perdemos el tiempo 👊😔esto fue épico!!
Seriously is this not out yet on webtoon cause I clearly can't find it anywhere on webtoon??😠😤😧
Mm because it is on kakaopage 😶
@@FeNaKCm thanks
i decided to see the manga but when i saw the comment section and how she melted to the prince again in her second life and didnt end up (?) with the red hair guy,,, i decided again not to.
does anyone know the difference between Pioneer & Graspe?? Arent both of them just changing their own fate??
I think "Pioneer" is referred to "one who want to change their fate or to make it different from before" while "Graspe" is more like "one who bound with certain fate". As we know ruve, tia, and jieun were tangled in a overlapping fate. But in this second life, tia is trying to run away from her devastated end. So the ending might be changed. Cmiiw. It is just my opinion 🙈
@@FeNaKCm but didnt the god let her change her fate again?? by sending her back 2 her past??
@@nightblade68 yes that is. She will be the first or "pioneer" to change her fate
@@FeNaKCm i mean jieun
I cannot find this comic on webtoon. Where is it?
You can read it on bato.to for free ^^
I really want Aristia end up marry the prince. I actually dislike Jieun. Aristia was heartbroken when she heard that the prince married Jieun so I want Aristia to be happy with him but the thing is that she have to choose to be a knight or a princess. I want her to be both and marry the prince tho ;^;
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Spoiler
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She did marry the prince in the end .
@@chiaravargas8853 wait really? Then, what happen to Jieun?
@@sappucino forum.novelupdates.com/threads/the-abandoned-empress.43439/ here is the spoiler thread
You know that, It was her fate in her first life as Aristia, All the romance and love for the Prince was forced on her own will, because Vita (the god in the story) said that Aristia was only a substitute for Jieun to enter in a different time from a different world , so Basically Aristia 'Loves' the Prince by her own will and ended up dying cos - so that's why she is granted with a second life, But I highly doubt Aristia still so called 'Loves' the Prince.
MAR_VESIS ༊ , I don’t like the prince I hope the light novel and the WEBTOON r different
ALLENDIS WANGY WANGYY
Well, as if that was not. Everyone already hates this manhwa. I also used to adore and sympathize with the main character. But she fell in love with that dreadful Prince again. She doesn't learn anything and doesn't have any pride. Many of us have already removed our grades and given one star out of five. Very sorry for Allendis and Carsein.
But in the 2nd timeline, Ruve is just different and really loves Aristia. Yes, he was really terrible in the past that he did terrible things to her but that’s just not what happens in present. Ruve has changed since Aristia has changed, he isn’t the one we hate in the beginning of the story already. I am not saying that we should ignore what he had done to Aristia in the 1st timeline, but what we should concern about more should be the present. Ruve deserves more love but not hatred.
@@gladyschan-c4h You see the thing is Tia already swore it on her lifetime that she wouldn't do it and secondly i didn't like how he just gets to have her without knowing how muc trauma he gave her. Yes he is different in the timeline but whos to say that she forgot she reincarnated and everything happens again? Carsein has my full vote on this one their chemistry is just too strong. But well i stopped reading it so meh
the sentence is wrong it's suppose to be *Now, tia is standing at the crossroads of destiny to become the successor of the family as an honorary knight* right...?
Pls im kinda disappointed with the ending. Yes she ended up with ruve and i was happy but, Carsein was done so dirty he deserves the world. I think if Aristia ended up with Carsein i would be happier.
please tell me where can i read this manga
Manga zuki
Mangaowl.net
There is no other protagonist that disappoints me more than this
FR LIKE HE LITERALLY KILLED U AND UR CHILD😭😭😭
I really hope the manhuw changes then the novel sein lost his eyes for her (his sight returned) he was the best wasn’t overboard like Allen ( Allen is still better then the prince) and he wasn’t so dramatic like the prince he he was in his right mind Plus he is the most good looking
Karsein is the best boy❤️, but I like Tia x Ruve)
I downloaded webtoon for this and I can't find it. How do I find it?
Go to 1first manga (search in google)
Kakaopage
Me myself using kakaopage.id (i'm Indonesian)
It's on tappytoon but you have to pay so use a manga site if you haven't already
i just got spoiled about who is endgame n u know what??? i dont even care *tears* screw love interset *more tears*. Let's just focus on her relationship with her dad or the plot revolving around the second girl. LIke im so curious about her. pretty made she is representing us modern people but we move
what is the bg music. also CARSEIN X TIA FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So is this on webtoon?
Jian Mei it’s on tappytoon but you can read it online at mangago.com ^_^
Is it a good manga ????
Yes except if you don't like the male lead. It's the adaptation of a novel.
@@chiaravargas8853 thanks
Damn good
It's good except for the ending the ending is shit unless you like the blueberry (prince)
any team Allendis?
I don't agree with any of u.I think Aristia should ditch these boys and gain more power.
Am i the onky one who cant find this comic on webtoon?