Was the water too warm? I'm seeing metal or holes in your grease from the start of video. Maybe that is piles of sulfide getting sorted on the levels by water action
So the wax you use that's db45 if you had to guess what do you think the mixture quantities are? Does it feel more like wax or petroleum? Then, after that determination. How oiley?
The consistency is more like parafin wax because it is pretty stiff. But parafin is hard so it does have some petroleum jelly in it and a little lamp oil. I could not guess the percentages.
Huh where does one get a grease table by any chance? I am also wondering if one can use the rotary gold pans and add something to make the water heavy to seperate diamonds from the lighter stuff?
Grease and grease tables just are not available in the USA. I used to work for a diamond recovery plant that left this equipment behind when they pulled out and sold everything else. We used a dense liquid called LST that we bought from Australia. It was $1,000 per liter. I would not suggest relying on grease or dense liquids. I would just get a sarucca and use it in water. Most individuals do it that way and have great success with it.
Here is a link to a video where I demonstrate the use of a sarucca. This is the way to do it instead of grease or dense liquids: th-cam.com/video/ISIlxqC7rG4/w-d-xo.html
@@genuinediamondsinar3253 hmm know any plans on building a sarucca? Was thinking of a grease table for seperating from concentrates after something like a sarucca or a vibrating mineral jig. As for the grease....not tried this but I know the south Africans look for 3 things in their grease. Softness, thickness, and tenacity. 1/3rd bees wax, 1/3rd vaseline, and 1/3rd boiled linseed oil is the Bush recipe I was given by a South african friend. Another is just bees wax and Vaseline until a thick sticky grease is obtained. Never diamond mined before or ever mined before. Ran a suction dredge once but it was for removing smashed beer bottles from the river bottom on a river tour. I got a lot of time on my hands and really wanna build something...
I have heard paraffin, vaseline and lampoil. The "grease" I have used is pretty waxy. I still just prefer to wash through screens and sarucca. I don't know of any plans for making one. I'm sorry I couldn't be more helpful.
@@genuinediamondsinar3253 its alright they seem to be pretty rare in the DIY world apparently. Couldn't hurt to ask lol Though I wonder what the angle on your table is. I have heard 5 degrees with a 1/4 inch drop is really commom in South africa and south America.
I have never heard of a grease table being used for gold before. I did not know it was hydrophobic. If so, it would work. Being heavier (denser) would only make it catch in the grease better.
I looked it up and found that, "As with all metals, gold is naturally hydrophilic, with liquid contact angles less than 90 degrees." So, I wouldn't trust a grease table to catch 100% of the gold as you can trust it to catch 100% of the diamonds.
It's an experiment I am going to try with a set amount of gold in a recitation system to test it out any suggestions on what type of grease to use??? I thought I heard a recipe in video will have to go back and check when I get results back I will let you know. Thanks your videos were awesome and had great information
@@406miner7 I am glad you are going to try a controlled experiment. I would love to know the results. I used to work for a diamond exploration and recovery company. I got some of their DeBeers diamond grease when they closed up. I'm not certain of the exact formula, but I've heard there are three components---parafin, vasoline and lamp oil. To me, this "grease" seems more like wax, but of course not as hard as a candle.
@@406miner7 I don't know if you've seen them all or just found this one video, but I have a series of 5 videos about using a grease table. Here is one of them: th-cam.com/video/bW4zCtmnqJo/w-d-xo.html
I use DB-43 which is a DeBeers grease. I got some that was abandoned after a diamond exploration and recovery project I worked on for 3 years. You can make you own with paraffin was, vaseline, and lamp oil. But I don't remember what percentages of each. This has more the consistency of wax. I wouldn't call it "grease." As I explained in the video, the temperature is VERY important. Your water, gravel, and grease all must be between 65 and 70 degrees to work properly. Thank you for watching my videos and for commenting. This is just one video in a series of 5 I did about grease tables and recovering the diamonds from the run.
@@genuinediamondsinar3253 I assume the lamp oil you used was a paraffin-based lamp oil. I would think that a kerosine-based lamp oil would just separate when you run water over it. Parafine melts pretty easily so I would assume that the majority of the mixture will be paraffin. you want the grease to be spreadable and tacky. I might try to look into the proportions. A book I have (Diamonds by Eric Burton) says the water would be slightly soapy. Does this sound familiar? =)
@@dustinneff1784 If you trap all the material Inbetween two sets of riffels. With one pointing down and offset to one pointing up. With grease of anykind filling inbetween the uper ones riffels. The lower one cast the diamonds up onto it as they pass over the lower ones riffels as in like a slues. But not. Had a friend that had a book of practical mining ideas from sometime in the late 1800s. As it had no cover or many pages left. It did however still have pages that covered diamonds. And Rockerbox's that can be used in conjunction with grease. As a slow side to side action gives more opertunety for a table to catch them.
An aquarium heater is thermostatically controlled, and can keep a 55-gallon fish tank at most any temperature you desire. I suggest you use two, and keep a backup on the shelf.
I have experimented with a grease table here in NC and considered water temperatures. The average annual air temperature here is 60° F therefore the temperature of the water coming from my 30 foot well is 60° F so I don't even have to measure it. I formulated my grease for that temperature and it routinely captured my cheap test diamonds. The same should be true for a city water supply unless one is very close to the water plant or the plant has a very high throughput. Measure it to be safe but you will generally find that it is very close to your average annual air temperature. Btw for all you prospectors working creek bottom sediments. Don't count on such diamonds to be hydrophobic. Such diamonds are often coated with a mineral coating or a biofilm which might well alter that property.
The old spanish diggings aren't too far from the diamond mine. My wife's friend lives between the two. I'll be trying to find some gold for sure. I'll be happy even ifs just a fly poop size piece lol. Cheers!
Around fifty years ago I heard something about using grease on the bottom of a sluith box and shaker box to make the gold dust stick. I figured it was bacon grease but I really don't know. This information has been lost to history. You are the closest information about this process I have found. So, what do you know?
Thank you for watching my video and for commenting. I have 5 videos in this series about using a grease table. I worked in diamond exploration and recovery for years just outside of Arkansas' Crater of Diamonds State Park. There are 8, known diamond pipes in the area. I wrote a book about diamonds in Arkansas.
@@genuinediamondsinar3253 Okay, what's the name of this book? And, where are these 5 pipes located. After a wee bit of research, I found out that gold is hydrophobic also. So are most of the valuable metals. I am now in Ponca City, and I plan to move to LeFlore OK ASAP.
@@maxcinta5760 Thank you for your interest. My book's title is, "Genuine Diamonds Found In Arkansas." You can order a copy through our website or download it as an ebook. www.DiamondsInAR.com
@@maxcinta5760 The other diamond pipes are all within 3 miles of SW Arkansas' Crater of Diamonds State Park. Here is a link to a video that tells where the other diamond pipes are located: th-cam.com/video/_9Fvx-hQZks/w-d-xo.html
This is a series of videos about setting up a grease table, feeding it, cleaning it, and boiling the grease to separate out the diamonds. No, it isn't all in one video, but I did upload all of the videos to my "Genuine Diamonds in AR" TH-cam channel. Thank you for watching and commenting.
Thanks for the video series. Your videos are always interesting as well as educational.
You are welcome. Thank you for watching and for your encouraging comment.
Thanks for the video!!!
Thank you for watching.
Was the water too warm? I'm seeing metal or holes in your grease from the start of video.
Maybe that is piles of sulfide getting sorted on the levels by water action
Gravel just pooled and piled as I fed it. Water later washed it off. It's no problem it sat there for a while before washing away.
So the wax you use that's db45 if you had to guess what do you think the mixture quantities are?
Does it feel more like wax or petroleum? Then, after that determination.
How oiley?
The consistency is more like parafin wax because it is pretty stiff. But parafin is hard so it does have some petroleum jelly in it and a little lamp oil. I could not guess the percentages.
Huh where does one get a grease table by any chance? I am also wondering if one can use the rotary gold pans and add something to make the water heavy to seperate diamonds from the lighter stuff?
Grease and grease tables just are not available in the USA. I used to work for a diamond recovery plant that left this equipment behind when they pulled out and sold everything else. We used a dense liquid called LST that we bought from Australia. It was $1,000 per liter. I would not suggest relying on grease or dense liquids. I would just get a sarucca and use it in water. Most individuals do it that way and have great success with it.
Here is a link to a video where I demonstrate the use of a sarucca. This is the way to do it instead of grease or dense liquids: th-cam.com/video/ISIlxqC7rG4/w-d-xo.html
@@genuinediamondsinar3253 hmm know any plans on building a sarucca?
Was thinking of a grease table for seperating from concentrates after something like a sarucca or a vibrating mineral jig.
As for the grease....not tried this but I know the south Africans look for 3 things in their grease. Softness, thickness, and tenacity. 1/3rd bees wax, 1/3rd vaseline, and 1/3rd boiled linseed oil is the Bush recipe I was given by a South african friend. Another is just bees wax and Vaseline until a thick sticky grease is obtained.
Never diamond mined before or ever mined before. Ran a suction dredge once but it was for removing smashed beer bottles from the river bottom on a river tour.
I got a lot of time on my hands and really wanna build something...
I have heard paraffin, vaseline and lampoil. The "grease" I have used is pretty waxy. I still just prefer to wash through screens and sarucca. I don't know of any plans for making one. I'm sorry I couldn't be more helpful.
@@genuinediamondsinar3253 its alright they seem to be pretty rare in the DIY world apparently. Couldn't hurt to ask lol
Though I wonder what the angle on your table is. I have heard 5 degrees with a 1/4 inch drop is really commom in South africa and south America.
How much dirt did you process for that concentrate?
I don't know in pounds or tons, but it was like 400, 5-gallon buckets worth to get that much concentrate.
Stumbled across your channel will the table catch gold it's hydrophobic like diamonds but heavier what's your thoughts
I have never heard of a grease table being used for gold before. I did not know it was hydrophobic. If so, it would work. Being heavier (denser) would only make it catch in the grease better.
I looked it up and found that, "As with all metals, gold is naturally hydrophilic, with liquid contact angles less than 90 degrees." So, I wouldn't trust a grease table to catch 100% of the gold as you can trust it to catch 100% of the diamonds.
It's an experiment I am going to try with a set amount of gold in a recitation system to test it out any suggestions on what type of grease to use??? I thought I heard a recipe in video will have to go back and check when I get results back I will let you know. Thanks your videos were awesome and had great information
@@406miner7 I am glad you are going to try a controlled experiment. I would love to know the results. I used to work for a diamond exploration and recovery company. I got some of their DeBeers diamond grease when they closed up. I'm not certain of the exact formula, but I've heard there are three components---parafin, vasoline and lamp oil. To me, this "grease" seems more like wax, but of course not as hard as a candle.
@@406miner7 I don't know if you've seen them all or just found this one video, but I have a series of 5 videos about using a grease table. Here is one of them: th-cam.com/video/bW4zCtmnqJo/w-d-xo.html
Which grease do you use and at which temperature?
I use DB-43 which is a DeBeers grease. I got some that was abandoned after a diamond exploration and recovery project I worked on for 3 years. You can make you own with paraffin was, vaseline, and lamp oil. But I don't remember what percentages of each. This has more the consistency of wax. I wouldn't call it "grease." As I explained in the video, the temperature is VERY important. Your water, gravel, and grease all must be between 65 and 70 degrees to work properly. Thank you for watching my videos and for commenting. This is just one video in a series of 5 I did about grease tables and recovering the diamonds from the run.
@@genuinediamondsinar3253 I assume the lamp oil you used was a paraffin-based lamp oil. I would think that a kerosine-based lamp oil would just separate when you run water over it. Parafine melts pretty easily so I would assume that the majority of the mixture will be paraffin. you want the grease to be spreadable and tacky. I might try to look into the proportions. A book I have (Diamonds by Eric Burton) says the water would be slightly soapy. Does this sound familiar? =)
@@JewelryDeconstructed Yes, I guess so.
Can an alternative grease be used since the stuff your using is no longer available ? Thanks, Dustin
Yes, I once heard of a recipe using parafin wax, petroleum jelly (Vaseline), and lamp oil. I just don't remember how much of each you use.
@@genuinediamondsinar3253 thanks
@@dustinneff1784 If you trap all the material Inbetween two sets of riffels. With one pointing down and offset to one pointing up. With grease of anykind filling inbetween the uper ones riffels. The lower one cast the diamonds up onto it as they pass over the lower ones riffels as in like a slues. But not.
Had a friend that had a book of practical mining ideas from sometime in the late 1800s. As it had no cover or many pages left. It did however still have pages that covered diamonds. And Rockerbox's that can be used in conjunction with grease. As a slow side to side action gives more opertunety for a table to catch them.
An aquarium heater is thermostatically controlled, and can keep a 55-gallon fish tank at most any temperature you desire. I suggest you use two, and keep a backup on the shelf.
That is an excellent suggestion. I've never had fish and didn't know about the heater. That would be perfect. Thanks so much for the great idea.
@@genuinediamondsinar3253 Look for a fish tank thermometer at the same store. I like the ones that float. There are others you stick to the glass.
@@maxcinta5760 Okay, thank you.
I have experimented with a grease table here in NC and considered water temperatures. The average annual air temperature here is 60° F therefore the temperature of the water coming from my 30 foot well is 60° F so I don't even have to measure it. I formulated my grease for that temperature and it routinely captured my cheap test diamonds. The same should be true for a city water supply unless one is very close to the water plant or the plant has a very high throughput. Measure it to be safe but you will generally find that it is very close to your average annual air temperature. Btw for all you prospectors working creek bottom sediments. Don't count on such diamonds to be hydrophobic. Such diamonds are often coated with a mineral coating or a biofilm which might well alter that property.
Ngl actually really cool
I just moved to Arkansas from california. My gold prospecting stuff is now diamond mining equipment lol.
Good call! Arkansas is gold poor but I've found a lot of diamonds here.
The old spanish diggings aren't too far from the diamond mine. My wife's friend lives between the two. I'll be trying to find some gold for sure. I'll be happy even ifs just a fly poop size piece lol. Cheers!
@@caseystyer2996 That sounds like a fun adventure. I hope you find some nice gold.
Around fifty years ago I heard something about using grease on the bottom of a sluith box and shaker box to make the gold dust stick. I figured it was bacon grease but I really don't know. This information has been lost to history. You are the closest information about this process I have found. So, what do you know?
Thank you for watching my video and for commenting. I have 5 videos in this series about using a grease table. I worked in diamond exploration and recovery for years just outside of Arkansas' Crater of Diamonds State Park. There are 8, known diamond pipes in the area. I wrote a book about diamonds in Arkansas.
@@genuinediamondsinar3253 Okay, what's the name of this book? And, where are these 5 pipes located. After a wee bit of research, I found out that gold is hydrophobic also. So are most of the valuable metals. I am now in Ponca City, and I plan to move to LeFlore OK ASAP.
@@maxcinta5760 Thank you for your interest. My book's title is, "Genuine Diamonds Found In Arkansas." You can order a copy through our website or download it as an ebook. www.DiamondsInAR.com
@@maxcinta5760 The other diamond pipes are all within 3 miles of SW Arkansas' Crater of Diamonds State Park. Here is a link to a video that tells where the other diamond pipes are located: th-cam.com/video/_9Fvx-hQZks/w-d-xo.html
I see. I guess a cool cave or mine is ideal.
That gravel your adding looks like its dry. It pours awfully easy.
Yes, the gravel is dry. I drop it on the top level that has running water. It wets everything except the diamonds which are unwettable.
But u didn't show us till the end.. id like to see the rest of the process maybe in a time lapse or something please sir
This is a series of videos about setting up a grease table, feeding it, cleaning it, and boiling the grease to separate out the diamonds. No, it isn't all in one video, but I did upload all of the videos to my "Genuine Diamonds in AR" TH-cam channel. Thank you for watching and commenting.
Just don't drink from or pour the wrong coffee mug! Not sure which would be worse
That's right.
Lol
Where the rest of the story the cleanup?
that would be funny if you got your cups mixed up and took a drink of heavys.
HA!! "Wow! There sure are a lot of grounds in that coffee!"