Coming from the Amish, (I’m a male) I know this patriarchal intimately. While not in the submissive role of a woman/wife, we men had to tow the line as well, and if our children got out of line or left the sect, we were censured as failed fathers, and if in the ministry, could be silenced or even removed. And we had the onerous task of most of the corporal punishment meted out to our children, for which I still suffer religious PTSD. My wife, being raised from childhood in this cult, was not able to follow the path out with me, and thus shunned me. Long story short, I was left alone, a disgraced heretic and branded as an immoral person. But I know it’s doubly hard for a woman and wife to leave. I have to read your book now!
The women in these groups are also encouraged and rewarded to “keep each other in line”, and sometimes the means to do that involve reporting against each other, so you could truly not just have zero allies, but deliberate underminers in your circles.
100%. Except that it never will because the US is a patriarchal culture and religions of this type are invented by patriarchal cultures to keep women as sexual slaves and beast of burden. What we truly need is an end to patriarchy.
Presuming that within the teenager, young-adult group within this community, there were some young-women that were desired by multiple guys. What happen when a number of guys said to one women “you are my women”? Who got to choose?
9:45 “Nothing more than a submissive wife and mother.” That sounds like self sabotage type thinking. Teacher, consoler, lover, gardener, artist, baker, barber, kitchen manager, task manager, chief financial officer, coach, small business owner, friend, confidant, sister, aunt, and most of all a good daughter. - 11:17 is nuts, that’s just nuts, extremely difficult to believe. - Who hurt this woman so badly? She is ungrateful for her healthy, beautiful, family and having an actual mom&dad to raise her. She fails to even attempt to recognize her own worth. - Alternatively; ‘hey kids, go have seggs with a bunch of people before you settle down and start a family. Or better yet, don’t start a family and try getting a seggs change, I heard that’s a sure fire way to live a happy life.’ - Some kids, on our continent, are raised in landfills, scavenging for their daily meals. It’s not all about you. Be more grateful.
Coming from the Amish, (I’m a male) I know this patriarchal intimately. While not in the submissive role of a woman/wife, we men had to tow the line as well, and if our children got out of line or left the sect, we were censured as failed fathers, and if in the ministry, could be silenced or even removed. And we had the onerous task of most of the corporal punishment meted out to our children, for which I still suffer religious PTSD.
My wife, being raised from childhood in this cult, was not able to follow the path out with me, and thus shunned me. Long story short, I was left alone, a disgraced heretic and branded as an immoral person. But I know it’s doubly hard for a woman and wife to leave. I have to read your book now!
The women in these groups are also encouraged and rewarded to “keep each other in line”, and sometimes the means to do that involve reporting against each other, so you could truly not just have zero allies, but deliberate underminers in your circles.
It is terrifying that this is on the rise here in America. Thank you Tia for your courageous voice and story!
Tank you Tia. All peace and strength to you.
Brave Ms. Levings! Hope your daughters are safe too!
Excellent information on the codification of American Christian Values provided in this interview.
The US needs a Nuremberg Type Trial !
100%. Except that it never will because the US is a patriarchal culture and religions of this type are invented by patriarchal cultures to keep women as sexual slaves and beast of burden. What we truly need is an end to patriarchy.
Like YESTERDAY!
Thing is, 47's character is the animation of "American Christian Values."
Everyone stay vigilant, they're going to start charging for thinking..
It’s so shocking it’s happening in USA, strong, rich, innovative country, the religious community are trying to take it back to medieval times
it's all over the world ...
Presuming that within the teenager, young-adult group within this community, there were some young-women that were desired by multiple guys. What happen when a number of guys said to one women “you are my women”? Who got to choose?
They raise you to be a slave.
So sad that parents will do this to their children.
it really should be the crime of child abuse.
9:45 “Nothing more than a submissive wife and mother.”
That sounds like self sabotage type thinking. Teacher, consoler, lover, gardener, artist, baker, barber, kitchen manager, task manager, chief financial officer, coach, small business owner, friend, confidant, sister, aunt, and most of all a good daughter.
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11:17 is nuts, that’s just nuts, extremely difficult to believe.
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Who hurt this woman so badly? She is ungrateful for her healthy, beautiful, family and having an actual mom&dad to raise her. She fails to even attempt to recognize her own worth.
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Alternatively; ‘hey kids, go have seggs with a bunch of people before you settle down and start a family. Or better yet, don’t start a family and try getting a seggs change, I heard that’s a sure fire way to live a happy life.’
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Some kids, on our continent, are raised in landfills, scavenging for their daily meals.
It’s not all about you. Be more grateful.