just discovered your channel, subbed straight away. Im a novice rogue, 6/8 t2 currently and hoping to improve. I dont know if you have a guide already as i havent checked your videos yet, but off the top of my head i would love a guide to suppression room traps for a rogue. everything i found is generic, not rogue/trap specific.
There are many advantages being a dagger rogue: Without worldbuffs daggers are far better in most fights, single target and cleave (exception e.g. Thaddius or Cthun if you get unlucky). You dont have to compete with warriors for swords. Daggers is a very chill and easier playstyle (you dont have to buttonmash constantly as a dagger rogue, you dont care about swingtimers). Tbh you should only go swords if you are human.
@Redman Law 99 bruh there not even on cthun most of the time and like you said hes moving all over so there will be windows you cant backstab...... it was a fucking joke
@@ericrowe2533 Why? All u need to do is watch where the last red eye-beam of phase 1 ended, thats his front, the rest is his back...... i would say thats so ez its not even worth to mention.
The one thing I tell my rogues who say "I'm going daggers now for AQ because of the spreadsheets" is the following: "Yes the spreadsheet says daggers pulls ahead. In a perfect world where you start on the ass of the mob and you and it never move. There are not target swaps. The only thing you do is press backstab and you do not get screwed by RNJesus. The reality is you will have fights where you need to change targets which can punish your SnD uptime if you are not careful. Even a few seconds of that will have a sword rogue close the gap. If you get stuck on the wrong side of a mob you are forced to wait till you get to the back and that could cost you an energy tick or two which will eat in your lead. In the end there is a tax on every dagger rogue from the hypothesized max output. Swords have their own to a degree. Which is about 10% of what is advertised. Daggers can easily hit 20-25%. So long as you are performing well and doing your jobs I don't care what spec you are you will get gear. And just clearing AQ will put you in a different level than a lot of guilds in classic."
Subscribed! Thank you for this video. As a recent dagger rogue switching to swords for the different play style, this was very helpful. I just completed my 8pc tier 2 and also tier 0 for 0.5. Looking forward to testing it out. Cheers!
As a rank 14 who often switches off, my complete raid as swords and daggers is always within 5%. Vael is the only fight where it makes much difference.
the big difference here is nobody cares for r14 cause 99% of all players arent. and the fact is that u dont have great swords in mc and also not in aq40 but u have awesome daggers, and that makes a difference. bwl is the only thing where sworld could be better than daggers, but u have too many bosses where daggerspec performance is better, so even in bwl dagger > sword. i guess if u have nax clear and the game is over sworld could be better than daggers.
Everyone always talking about the rogue human racial with sword skill but honestly I think going swords on horde is easier due to less competition with warriors for swords.
Same. As I've said before, I'm just not a sneak-up-and-stick-it-in-from-behind kinda person. And dealing with the positional requirements of daggers is a pain in the ass. Yes, daggers are by nature, well... rogue-y. But for me, swords just feel more natural.
Hey! Former Drud switching to rogue, do you have any videos on gear prioritization for when I hit 60? I already raid MC/BWL and prepared for AQ on my druid but have decided to main the rogue. Should I just farm shadow craft gear?
Look into getting T0 and converting it to T0.5. Devilsaur gear should be pretty cheap to come by now which really it takes NS gloves +BF Legs to beat that combo. Weapons I will say its really up to you and your guilds current weapon situation. Daggers have quite a few options while swords more restricted to 2 low drop rate items (Vis'kag CTS both being bound to special loot tables) none of the daggers are bound to this currently. Interm solutions would be to grab mirahs song from Scholo's quest chain and pick up a sword of Zeal (pre-raid its basically the bis option and if your kill times are quick enough you basically have a BB in your MH with the proc up. Then you can go from there.
@@a7x16pruitt I think a lot of people will do this. Crusader offhand is kind of unreliable, especially in short fights where you don't get to wait to use CDs, and having 1 more buff slot is really nice.
@@crestfallen821 If you roll daggers for AQ you are pretty foolish. AQ has longer kill times more positional requirements and for you to have deaths sting to actually do more dmg. Not to mention daggers are only optimal when you have world buffs or they call off quite hard which lets be real its going to be 1hr+ runs for most people. If you are REROLLING you are definately not getting prio on the dagger. Then when P6 comes out and eviscerate rank 9 comes and then you wanna go back swords you are screwed.
@@crestfallen821 Its just facts? In what world would you get the dagger if you are swords currently and ontop of that if you are horde tanks/warriors will want it just as much. Sure if you are some sort of guild god and they give it to you or DKP reminder its near a 2% drop chance. And im telling you this isnt an opinion AQ fights will be longer and the raid will be longer than BWL you will not have all your buffs unless you are insane speed guild. Again this is no assumption these are facts. Dont be ignorant there are so many factors in game that dont translate from spread sheets.
Hi Snomie, is it worth swapping to seal fate spec once collecting 5/5 tier 2.5? I have been reading discussions were people say that's when dagger rogues move from adrenaline rush to seal fate but the sims I am doing prove otherwise. Love the videos keep it up!
I have never once seen SF come close one of the big issues unless you are in a top top guild is WB's. Without WB's any SF build loses more steam than a fury war does. Even with WB's it would still be hard to close that gap and in really short fights the combat builds are going to outburst you. This was scienced heavily back in the day and it never came close. Even in BC when Mutilate came out SF was just not able to gen the CP's and output to keep up with Combats swords/fistswords.
It's a nice boost but doesn't change much as far as daggers vs swords. Still comes down to personal preference. Keep in mind AQ trash is a bit annoying as daggers also.
@@ClassicRoguecraft never had a problem in vanilla with daggers in AQ40 at all. Many of the people bemoaning daggers in AQ40 and on C'thun in particular possibly never actually killed him way back then
How well the fight plays out. For example a good firemaw execution would be a 30 second kill with 0 deaths that would be a 99% execution, a bad execution would be a 1 minute firemaw kill with 10 deaths and that would be a 45% execution.
that still happens for sure. I guess the most accurate way to say it is not 'no worry' but 'less worry' when it comes to positioning in that the penalty for when mobs turn or things get mispositioned impacts the sword rogue less than a dagger rogue who just flat won't won't be able to backstab sometimes
@@ClassicRoguecraft aso a swordrogue staying infront of sth is a massive dmg reduction the fact that its even worse for daggers means nothing, its totally shit to stay infront of sth for both specs and with both specs u want to avoid that more than ANYTHING else.
I parsed the best when I was dagger specced, it was so much fun. But being back on swords its just terrible sometimes, I get superbad RNG on sinister strike crits (like around 8-12% crits on an entire fight) while daggers almost still get around 60-70% crits on backstab. Its depressing.
idk man, im thinking bout going daggers in p6 even tho i prefer swords by a lot but getting gressil or the oh is going to be so stressful since its bis for furys aswell.....dunno what i wanna do bout it (horde)
Everyone has their own style of play. I have dagger rogues who fight it out with me and another sword rogue for tops in BWL. For me its the smoothness of swords and how greedy I want to get. I can play it very safe and push for something like a 2/4/5 cycle. Or I can go bonkers with my tickets tea and AR and do back to back 1snd 5evis cycles for 24 seconds and watch a dead boss lay at my feet. Also with the RNG factors it makes swords fun to play where daggers i find too formulaic. IF you are going to go on as a rogue into TBC I would get used to playing a priority system because all TBC's rogues will be using them and with combat potency, you need to be flexible.
Daggers is better because of the high crit chance imo. BUT, the build is harder to talent for because you need imp backstab, opportunity, and lethality. This generally means you're going to give up important/quality of life talents somewhere, which can make a significant difference in your success in PvP. Therefore, hemo is the spec for ezmode gameplay. Daggers is for kings.
I picked up a spare claw of the black drake last week and I’m going to run it next raid. I’ve been daggers for all of classic so I’m really afraid I’ll enjoy sinister striking and have to switch to swords
all of this is common sense & dependent on what other rogues in your guild want to be. You cant have 6-8 sword rogues. You gonna need half going swords half going daggers
joue le gameplay que tu préfères la différence est très minime. sword c'est un poil mieux pour cleave, dagger un poil mieux pour burst mais des boss qui sont bizarrement positionnés il vaut mieux être sword. après à aq t'as la dague de c'thun qui est un gros up mais tu risques d'avoir des soucis à aq40 en étant dagger. c'thun par exemple il bouge souvent et toutes les tentacules ça risque d'être chaud en dagger pour parse convenablement
how do you deal with a guild that refuses to give non-humans swords lol...how important is the human sword skill? i'm about 99% phase 4 bis, 8/8 dft perds/cht/etc... just missing accuria.., but i'm a gnome and forced by guild to be dagger spec... i dont mind its fun but i prefer playing swords. guild i'm in won't give me CTS/brutality/maladath and they've given it to tank offspecs and even peoples alts over giving me the swords, they even give me attitude for trying to roll on ZG swords over peoples warrior alts. I want to play swords, i prefer the playstyle, but since i'm not human i'm constantly passed over. One video i'd like to see is Just how important is the human swordskill racial? I honestly don't think it's as important as people weigh it(at least some people), especially if you get maladath. i average 95% parses on WCL and majority of those runs were without ACLG since i only just got those.. which isn't bad for a casual guild like ours with only ~45 min clears..(huge drought didnt see an ACLG drop since january in our mc runs) .
If you look at maladath for my rogue (troll) it was a bigger upgrade for me than getting DFT. Weapon skill helps your entire white damage output which for most rogues is ~60% of your output unless dealing with very very short fights or Vael which you should still have 3/3 imp BS. IF you consider going to 30 weapon skil you are cutting down your glancing blows by another 15% and getting effectively another 1% hit and a pittance of crit there really is nothing else that comes close to that gap. I do not have my sheet in front of me but I think Iblis is a modest upgrade for Maladath and you only real upgrade for the OH is Hungering Cold off KT.
sword performs nowhere better than dagger. Not even on trash. sure a shit sword player vs a shit dagger player wins on trash while a shit dagger player wins over a shit sword in a bossfight. but we do not talk about shit players here right?
dagger rogue is a meme/parse spec for niche fights, and only for one phase of the game. Reality is always different than a sim fight where ur spamming backstab standing still. Change my mind. Should have no prio over anything unless ur alliance.
J C Of course seal fate is great fun, but your white damage is nerfed and you have zero cleave too. Our guild full cleared naxx40 back in vanilla and we tried sealfate, it just doesn’t perform as well as combat daggers
@@ClassicRoguecraft Listen I understand you need to make a living but when it takes you two minutes to get to the video because you're begging for subs and then at the end of the video you beg again...yeah no. I'll watch someone else's video.
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just discovered your channel, subbed straight away. Im a novice rogue, 6/8 t2 currently and hoping to improve. I dont know if you have a guide already as i havent checked your videos yet, but off the top of my head i would love a guide to suppression room traps for a rogue. everything i found is generic, not rogue/trap specific.
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There are many advantages being a dagger rogue: Without worldbuffs daggers are far better in most fights, single target and cleave (exception e.g. Thaddius or Cthun if you get unlucky). You dont have to compete with warriors for swords. Daggers is a very chill and easier playstyle (you dont have to buttonmash constantly as a dagger rogue, you dont care about swingtimers). Tbh you should only go swords if you are human.
Daggers rogues on cthun will be like : WHERE'S HIS BACK ? I CAN'T BACKSTAB
KEK only the real know tho
@Redman Law 99 bruh there not even on cthun most of the time and like you said hes moving all over so there will be windows you cant backstab...... it was a fucking joke
even as a sworld rogue u want to stay behind ur opponent or u do shit dmg aswell.
thats not even a dagger thing.
Phase 2 is such a pain in the ass for that lol
@@ericrowe2533
Why?
All u need to do is watch where the last red eye-beam of phase 1 ended, thats his front, the rest is his back......
i would say thats so ez its not even worth to mention.
The one thing I tell my rogues who say "I'm going daggers now for AQ because of the spreadsheets" is the following:
"Yes the spreadsheet says daggers pulls ahead. In a perfect world where you start on the ass of the mob and you and it never move. There are not target swaps. The only thing you do is press backstab and you do not get screwed by RNJesus. The reality is you will have fights where you need to change targets which can punish your SnD uptime if you are not careful. Even a few seconds of that will have a sword rogue close the gap. If you get stuck on the wrong side of a mob you are forced to wait till you get to the back and that could cost you an energy tick or two which will eat in your lead. In the end there is a tax on every dagger rogue from the hypothesized max output. Swords have their own to a degree. Which is about 10% of what is advertised. Daggers can easily hit 20-25%. So long as you are performing well and doing your jobs I don't care what spec you are you will get gear. And just clearing AQ will put you in a different level than a lot of guilds in classic."
Subscribed! Thank you for this video. As a recent dagger rogue switching to swords for the different play style, this was very helpful. I just completed my 8pc tier 2 and also tier 0 for 0.5. Looking forward to testing it out. Cheers!
I've always loved swords. Luckily, my guild only has two sword rogues and 2-3ish dagger rogues, so it's been pretty nice.
As a rank 14 who often switches off, my complete raid as swords and daggers is always within 5%. Vael is the only fight where it makes much difference.
the big difference here is nobody cares for r14 cause 99% of all players arent.
and the fact is that u dont have great swords in mc and also not in aq40 but u have awesome daggers, and that makes a difference.
bwl is the only thing where sworld could be better than daggers, but u have too many bosses where daggerspec performance is better, so even in bwl dagger > sword.
i guess if u have nax clear and the game is over sworld could be better than daggers.
@@pyscho86 Viskag is an amazing mc/ony sword. It preforms just as well as Perds.
Hey, is SF that worse? What is the best SF build?
Often is it, what item can you possibile get and what specc do you prefere. :)
Let’s say you have MH -Perds blade OH - CHT, would you trade perds vlade for Viskag?
@@JSalonsky no..
Everyone always talking about the rogue human racial with sword skill but honestly I think going swords on horde is easier due to less competition with warriors for swords.
so hard to get swords as a non human on alliance, so i ultimately settled with daggers... swords feel so much better to me though.
go human then?
its anway better than the rest.
Same. As I've said before, I'm just not a sneak-up-and-stick-it-in-from-behind kinda person. And dealing with the positional requirements of daggers is a pain in the ass.
Yes, daggers are by nature, well... rogue-y. But for me, swords just feel more natural.
Watching this video I subbed man great stuff!
Hey! Former Drud switching to rogue, do you have any videos on gear prioritization for when I hit 60? I already raid MC/BWL and prepared for AQ on my druid but have decided to main the rogue. Should I just farm shadow craft gear?
Look into getting T0 and converting it to T0.5. Devilsaur gear should be pretty cheap to come by now which really it takes NS gloves +BF Legs to beat that combo. Weapons I will say its really up to you and your guilds current weapon situation. Daggers have quite a few options while swords more restricted to 2 low drop rate items (Vis'kag CTS both being bound to special loot tables) none of the daggers are bound to this currently. Interm solutions would be to grab mirahs song from Scholo's quest chain and pick up a sword of Zeal (pre-raid its basically the bis option and if your kill times are quick enough you basically have a BB in your MH with the proc up. Then you can go from there.
this is what I used for Pre-Bis
No videos on that yet for fresh 60s, but I'd highly recommend just darkmantle + ZG (or aq20 in p5). That will catch you up really quickly.
@@ClassicRoguecraft Quick question man, few sword rogues in my guild have swapped from double crusader to crusader & +15 agility.. Thoughts?
@@a7x16pruitt I think a lot of people will do this. Crusader offhand is kind of unreliable, especially in short fights where you don't get to wait to use CDs, and having 1 more buff slot is really nice.
I'll reroll swords for daggers in AQ and I am so hyped to try out a new spec!
nah thats terrible choice lol
@@Genmurasaki well u seem not to be much informed then lmao
@@crestfallen821 If you roll daggers for AQ you are pretty foolish. AQ has longer kill times more positional requirements and for you to have deaths sting to actually do more dmg. Not to mention daggers are only optimal when you have world buffs or they call off quite hard which lets be real its going to be 1hr+ runs for most people. If you are REROLLING you are definately not getting prio on the dagger. Then when P6 comes out and eviscerate rank 9 comes and then you wanna go back swords you are screwed.
@@Genmurasaki You assume so much bs without knowing the context I am in with my guild. Just stop spreading toxicity.
@@crestfallen821 Its just facts? In what world would you get the dagger if you are swords currently and ontop of that if you are horde tanks/warriors will want it just as much. Sure if you are some sort of guild god and they give it to you or DKP reminder its near a 2% drop chance. And im telling you this isnt an opinion AQ fights will be longer and the raid will be longer than BWL you will not have all your buffs unless you are insane speed guild. Again this is no assumption these are facts. Dont be ignorant there are so many factors in game that dont translate from spread sheets.
Hi Snomie, is it worth swapping to seal fate spec once collecting 5/5 tier 2.5? I have been reading discussions were people say that's when dagger rogues move from adrenaline rush to seal fate but the sims I am doing prove otherwise.
Love the videos keep it up!
I have never once seen SF come close one of the big issues unless you are in a top top guild is WB's. Without WB's any SF build loses more steam than a fury war does. Even with WB's it would still be hard to close that gap and in really short fights the combat builds are going to outburst you. This was scienced heavily back in the day and it never came close. Even in BC when Mutilate came out SF was just not able to gen the CP's and output to keep up with Combats swords/fistswords.
Seal fate has massive issues competing outside of niche scenarios, so combat remains top dog for rest of classic.
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Hello , I have a question. Is the rank 14 viable weapons for next phase? AQ phase. Both Dagger and Swords.
yes still very good (although daggers will want to look to pickup death sting still)
hey will the new rank of backstab make daggers better than swords?
It's a nice boost but doesn't change much as far as daggers vs swords. Still comes down to personal preference. Keep in mind AQ trash is a bit annoying as daggers also.
@@ClassicRoguecraft never had a problem in vanilla with daggers in AQ40 at all. Many of the people bemoaning daggers in AQ40 and on C'thun in particular possibly never actually killed him way back then
I keep a dagger main hand on me so I can open out of stealth with an ambush and then switch to swords mid combat :D
DAGGERS FTW
First time seeing this, love the cut ;)
You make a compelling argument, subbed.
What do you mean by "executions are bad"?
How well the fight plays out. For example a good firemaw execution would be a 30 second kill with 0 deaths that would be a 99% execution, a bad execution would be a 1 minute firemaw kill with 10 deaths and that would be a 45% execution.
@@Genmurasaki Thanks 👍
Still using these videos in 2023
Human sword rogue here. Didn't watch the video yet, but I bet it says us Sword rogues are amazing. Tnx for the vid!
I think daggers if you get deathsting but rogues will switch to sword for naxx
@@thiskneegrow You cant have 6-8 sword rogues....
Osiris Zoran yea you can. Warriors get a few more options in Naxx, and death sting will be rarer than kingsfall.
When you talk about no worry about position when playin sword , what's about parry and shit ? :D
that still happens for sure. I guess the most accurate way to say it is not 'no worry' but 'less worry' when it comes to positioning in that the penalty for when mobs turn or things get mispositioned impacts the sword rogue less than a dagger rogue who just flat won't won't be able to backstab sometimes
@@ClassicRoguecraft
aso a swordrogue staying infront of sth is a massive dmg reduction
the fact that its even worse for daggers means nothing, its totally shit to stay infront of sth for both specs and with both specs u want to avoid that more than ANYTHING else.
I parsed the best when I was dagger specced, it was so much fun. But being back on swords its just terrible sometimes, I get superbad RNG on sinister strike crits (like around 8-12% crits on an entire fight) while daggers almost still get around 60-70% crits on backstab. Its depressing.
idk man, im thinking bout going daggers in p6 even tho i prefer swords by a lot but getting gressil or the oh is going to be so stressful since its bis for furys aswell.....dunno what i wanna do bout it (horde)
Warriors have alternatives. If rogues arent prio youre getting stooged by your guild.
@@karlzila rogues can have msa
Possibly. Ik in my guild its been discussed that its likely going to go to rogues first.
Im first prio for kingsfall so idgaf how they work it out :P
Good to be horde where 9 out of 10 fury warriors are orcs therefor prio axes before swords.
Idk, I just love playing daggers, and don't plan on stopping ever. Swords is definitely fun as well, but it's just not the same for some reason.
Everyone has their own style of play. I have dagger rogues who fight it out with me and another sword rogue for tops in BWL. For me its the smoothness of swords and how greedy I want to get. I can play it very safe and push for something like a 2/4/5 cycle. Or I can go bonkers with my tickets tea and AR and do back to back 1snd 5evis cycles for 24 seconds and watch a dead boss lay at my feet. Also with the RNG factors it makes swords fun to play where daggers i find too formulaic. IF you are going to go on as a rogue into TBC I would get used to playing a priority system because all TBC's rogues will be using them and with combat potency, you need to be flexible.
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Daggers is better because of the high crit chance imo. BUT, the build is harder to talent for because you need imp backstab, opportunity, and lethality. This generally means you're going to give up important/quality of life talents somewhere, which can make a significant difference in your success in PvP.
Therefore, hemo is the spec for ezmode gameplay.
Daggers is for kings.
I picked up a spare claw of the black drake last week and I’m going to run it next raid. I’ve been daggers for all of classic so I’m really afraid I’ll enjoy sinister striking and have to switch to swords
Its a lil sub par vs swords in PvE but if you PvP that claw is amazing for hemo spec.
@@H2Prince 5% crit vs. sword spec, not a huge deal, especially since imp. fist weapons gives you more flexibility for off hand! :)
@@maximusowo you're forgetting the rogue talent 'Weapon Expertise', it gives 5 weapon skill to swords, daggers and fist weapons. :)
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You didn't even talk about this in-depth for PvP.
Yeah pvp is a whole different ballgame. Has to be a different video for sure.
@@ClassicRoguecraft would love to see it though!!
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for you, i subbed ! jk jk jk jk . your vieos have been very informative going forward into p5 of classic ! cheers brother
daggers are better if your not human.
all of this is common sense & dependent on what other rogues in your guild want to be. You cant have 6-8 sword rogues. You gonna need half going swords half going daggers
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Daggers : Real rogue gameplay with backstabs and stuff.
Hello en français sa dit quoi ? Épée > dagues ? Je compte très peu l'anglais. Si kk pouvait me traduire sa serait top :)
joue le gameplay que tu préfères la différence est très minime. sword c'est un poil mieux pour cleave, dagger un poil mieux pour burst mais des boss qui sont bizarrement positionnés il vaut mieux être sword. après à aq t'as la dague de c'thun qui est un gros up mais tu risques d'avoir des soucis à aq40 en étant dagger. c'thun par exemple il bouge souvent et toutes les tentacules ça risque d'être chaud en dagger pour parse convenablement
he didn't even mention backstab rank 9 ?!
backstab rank 9 is literally less than 8 dps upgrade. It's a nonfactor.
The hair do is pretty cool tho!
Seal of fate sword rogue vs seal of fate dagger rogue
how do you deal with a guild that refuses to give non-humans swords lol...how important is the human sword skill? i'm about 99% phase 4 bis, 8/8 dft perds/cht/etc... just missing accuria.., but i'm a gnome and forced by guild to be dagger spec... i dont mind its fun but i prefer playing swords. guild i'm in won't give me CTS/brutality/maladath and they've given it to tank offspecs and even peoples alts over giving me the swords, they even give me attitude for trying to roll on ZG swords over peoples warrior alts. I want to play swords, i prefer the playstyle, but since i'm not human i'm constantly passed over. One video i'd like to see is Just how important is the human swordskill racial? I honestly don't think it's as important as people weigh it(at least some people), especially if you get maladath. i average 95% parses on WCL and majority of those runs were without ACLG since i only just got those.. which isn't bad for a casual guild like ours with only ~45 min clears..(huge drought didnt see an ACLG drop since january in our mc runs) .
If you look at maladath for my rogue (troll) it was a bigger upgrade for me than getting DFT. Weapon skill helps your entire white damage output which for most rogues is ~60% of your output unless dealing with very very short fights or Vael which you should still have 3/3 imp BS. IF you consider going to 30 weapon skil you are cutting down your glancing blows by another 15% and getting effectively another 1% hit and a pittance of crit there really is nothing else that comes close to that gap. I do not have my sheet in front of me but I think Iblis is a modest upgrade for Maladath and you only real upgrade for the OH is Hungering Cold off KT.
sounds like you need a new guild
Is that a fucking mullet lmao
Axes are bis
Hey I was subbed before this video, just sayin :)
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be careful when you let twitch chat make your 1k sub goal
sword performs nowhere better than dagger.
Not even on trash.
sure a shit sword player vs a shit dagger player wins on trash
while a shit dagger player wins over a shit sword in a bossfight.
but we do not talk about shit players here right?
just sub ;)
Yes, hella skillbased if you parse good as sword or not...... na man its all about praying to rngjesus
dagger rogue is a meme/parse spec for niche fights, and only for one phase of the game. Reality is always different than a sim fight where ur spamming backstab standing still. Change my mind. Should have no prio over anything unless ur alliance.
Dagger is absolutely not a meme spec. Youre just being obtuse.
Yeah everything is a meme spec except fury warrior right
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I dunno man weapons are massive for rogues... and seal fate daggers destroys everything
Even with full naxx gear seal fate doesn’t all always out perform combat..
@@richtownsendfitness7085 lol? i'tll be fun when im doing 3-4 point backstabs while u get 1 maybe 2 ... im horde son.
J C Of course seal fate is great fun, but your white damage is nerfed and you have zero cleave too. Our guild full cleared naxx40 back in vanilla and we tried sealfate, it just doesn’t perform as well as combat daggers
@@juz882010 3-4pt backstabs that go into slice and dice? Lol only time youd get to evis is on your renatakis or thistle and if short fight
I've turned down bindings offer last raid in favor of daggers :)
Stop begging for subs
okay. Do you have twitch prime?
@@ClassicRoguecraft Listen I understand you need to make a living but when it takes you two minutes to get to the video because you're begging for subs and then at the end of the video you beg again...yeah no. I'll watch someone else's video.
I guess this means you don’t have twitch prime. Unfortunate.
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