@@jeff_dubon3121 I got mine at the car dealership, but I would recommend getting it online from a parts dealer instead...most car dealerships will NOT let you buy or install this on the car because their system will say it's not compatible with the car since it's a 440i MPE not the 428/430i MPE. - the part code is in the video description.
I recently got a '22 430i as loaner car while my car was in service and I hate to admit it but you're totally right, it's very quiet lol. Aside from that, I was impressed with the kick from the additional torque the new models have and despite them being a little bigger now, they still drive great! Get yourself a new exhaust and enjoy your car!
Hey man thanks! That is correct, this is the OEM 440i M-Performance diffuser. More info is in the description, but here is the link to the diffuser > www.getbmwparts.com/oem-parts/bmw-f32-33-36-m-performance-rear-diffuser-kit-435i-440i-51192339218
hi , im looking to buy an bmw 430i 2017 , i saw this video and i really liked the sound that your car makes , can you do another video of it with flybyes and more revs ? thanks a lot , greatings from portugal !
Hey Edgar, I will see if I can find time to follow-up on this video request. I'm not sure how soon I can make one, but if I have time, I'll do my best.
While I still haven't gotten around to doing another flyby/rev video you should checkout a video from ThicWhips -> --th-cam.com/video/kHT5xm9C5dU-/w-d-xo.html- -- The F30 330i in that video has the same engine (B48) and he has the exact same exhaust (340/440i M Performance Exhaust). My car sounds almost identical so for all intents and purposes that video should be enough to make a good conclusion on how it sounds.
@@edgarcabreira2654 No problem man, safe to say any F30 330i (2017+) have the B48 engine. The F30/F32 - 328i/428i (2014-2016) have the N20 engine. Unfortunately there a lot less videos of the B48 variants, but there's a few good ones out there :)
From what I know the 440i MPE version eliminates the valve and when ordered through the dealership it also came with the dummy end plug for the oem valve controller. The 435i MPE version has the valve I believe, but you might want to research to find out for sure.
hey man im looking into getting a 2017 430i coupe and definitely want to do a dual exhuast conversion. may i ask what year is your car? and also, did all you need was the M Rear Bumper + Diffuser and the Exhuast for everything to fit without having to weld extra pipes?
In my case I only changed the diffuser section since I already had the M rear bumper (since they're two separate parts). No extra pipes were necessary but of course they will have to cut and clamp the new one on.
I know the 428i and 430i are very similar. Can I do this to my 428i? I love the fact that it would just be the exhaust I don't need tunes or anything I don't want to damage my car in the long run. Where did you buy it?
I not sure if the 440i MPE will work on the 428i, but I know there are videos of the 435i MPE on the 428i (th-cam.com/video/Wbg10drLUFY/w-d-xo.html). Tentatively I don't see why 440i MPE wouldn't work, but it would be better to ask a local BMW shop about it to be sure. I bought the exhaust directly through my local BMW dealership in Fremont, CA...however, most dealerships will NOT let you do this, I just so happened to get lucky and worked with some advisors who were also into modding their own cars and helped me get this approved through the dealership. Generally it is better to work with a local independent BMW specialist shop (preferably one that does aftermarket and/or motorsport stuff), those will be the places that will be more likely to help you get this kind of work done.
Hey! I’m getting this installed soon and need help. Did you have to purchase another hanger for the other side? The 430i is a single exit so it only had one hanger i think?
I had this done at my local dealership so I wasn't involved with the installation process. You are correct though, the 430i is a single exit dual tip exhaust from stock, so naturally converting it to the dual exhaust, unless the 440i MPE happens to come with an extra hanger, you'll probably need to get an additional one.
@@F32Koto Man thanks for the reply I thought you might have forgotten about the video! So would yours on this car be the 435I/335I MPE? Do you have any part number for this. Mine is the 330I F30 with the B48 which is the same as yours but for the 4 series?
@@mazalex2556 The one I have is the 440i MPE. I have the part codes in the description, but I'm not sure what the 435i/335i part code is however, I think you should be able to find it pretty easily with a Google search.
@@F32Koto it’s just because when you change to sport from comfort it sounded so much different so there must have been valves involved but as far as I’m aware the 440i MPE is valveless
@@mazalex2556You're correct the sound changes, but this is related to the change in engine tuning from comfort to sport/sport+. My exhaust has the dummy plug due to the valveless design of the 440i MPE so everything you hear is simply down to tuning. If sound volume is a concern, its not significantly louder, but I'm sure you have your reasons for wanting the valve.
Could you explain how the dealership installed this? Did it have to be welded on or was it a perfect fit? Would you be able to refer me to the service advisor who was able to get this installed? I'd like to do this to my 428i
Yes you can definitely do quad exhausts, either custom fab or aftermarket (bmw doesn't offer an oem quad for the non-M 4-series, only the M4). Just make sure you get an aftermarket diffuser that supports quad tip
That's a good question that I also had. I would assume there are some differences because the single exit was designed specifically for the 2.0 (N20 motor) but since this is the 440i MPE this is obviously designed for the 3.0 (B58 motor). Unfortunately I haven't had a 2.0 (B48 or N20) BMW with the single exit MPE to compare in person against my setup so I'm not sure if or what the differences would be sound-wise
I wanna say the exhaust itself was about $1200 and $600 labor + tax around $1900/2000 all set and done. It's OEM+ and keeps the warranty so long as it's done by a dealership or bmw certified independent shop. There are other louder and more "fancy" aftermarket alternatives for the same price or a little more, but most have a resonator delete and will require a catless dp to accommodate the naturally more aggressive burbles from the resonator delete which will both void the warranty and make the car not smog legal in CA.
Is there any cutting/welding involved or is this process reversible if I eventually want to sell it stock? Also appreciate the responses in the comments I've been looking to do this for a while on my '19 430i
For the actual installation process, you might consult some forums as I didn't install it myself, but I believe in my specific case (based on what I can see) they did cut the OEM exhaust, aligned the new one, and used an exhaust clamp for the connection point. As for reversibility, I'm fairly sure most muffler shops can find a way to refit the OEM one if you wanted to put it back.
@@F32Koto got it, that makes sense. do you remember how much you payed for the installation at the muffler shop? And all I would need to bring to the guys at the shop is the bmw m sport bumper, m performance exhaust and the tips right?
@@erahia8702 I had mine installed at the dealership I am a regular at and the cost was around $650 which was more or less the same as another highly rated independent shop in my area. Having it done at the dealership in my case ensured my car kept it's warranty which is why I preferred to do it there. You will need order the M-Performance Exhaust/Tips and the M Performance diffuser (all part numbers in the description)
hey, sorry another question - i already have the m sport bumper but it is ONLY single exit, do I need to buy a m sport bumper that has dual exit AND the diffuser that is dual exit? Or can I just buy the diffuser that is dual exit?
Just to clarify, the bumper and diffuser are 2 separate pieces. The bumper part is the piece that is the same color as the car, the diffuser is the grey part on the bottom (or black part in my video). If you already have the m sport bumper, all you need to do is replace the oem (single exit) diffuser with the dual exhaust diffuser (part# - 51-19-2-339-218)
Actually you don't need to buy the different diffuser if you want the MPE there are 2 diff MPE the single exit one with dual tips (I had it installed on my 2018 430i M sport gran coupe almost a month or so ago and I love it) and then there is the one he put on his which is the dual exit one with single tips on each side, it just depends which look you wanna go for, either the single exit or the dual exit (I preferred the single exit myself) so its all up to you.
Yes, my car is an automatic and it works with mine. Typically mufflers will work regardless of the transmission type as far as I know, it doesn't really have anything to do with the transmission.
@@ItsSerialBoX There are 2 different rear bumpers 1) Base model or 2) M-Sport. Both are OEM, but based on the car's package. This bumper is the OEM M-Sport version. The part that has changed is the diffuser portion (black part)...the OEM stock part for the 428/430i is a dual-tip left side exit, but I have changed it to the dual single-tip exit M-Performance 440i diffuser in order to use the 440i M-Performance exhaust. - Hope this answers the question.
So its the M-sport version bumper for the 430i, but with the dual tip M-performace 440i diffuser? Thank you so much for the reply. I wish I could see what your stock bumper looked like, do you have a before picture?
@@ItsSerialBoX Almost, the first part is correct it is the M-Sport bumper with dual single-exit (aka: dual exhaust) M-Performance 440i diffuser. Reason I wanted to clarify is because "dual tip" can be interpreted by a shop as two pipes side by side rather than one pipe on the left and right separate from each other. Let me know if you have any other questions~ For more photos including the stock exhaust config, you can check my IG: f32_koto For clearer reference: "Dual-Tip" Diffuser -> bit.ly/3c44Acf
Is this the m power kit that add 30 + horse in torque power and has to be tune or is this just the m power muffler? Trying to figure If you can purchase the muffler only and get the burbles and cracks just with adding the muffler??
The kit you're talking about is the MPPSK which is only for the 435i and 440i as far as I know. This is purely just the 440i muffler and as per the video you can get some stock burbles and cracks. They won't be gun shot loud (need a tune and catless downpipe for that) but the stock pops are still pretty noticeable and you don't risk pissing everyone off lol
@@F32Koto I am just saying it looks like you're looking to make your car faster and sound better right? Just get the 440! It's a way bigger and better base to start with.
@@BrandonFrisco That's just your opinion though right? I know the 440i is a faster and more "build-able" car, but when I bought this car I was shopping for CPOs as a daily and this was by far the best available option. It was a 2017 model with only 23K miles, was in mint condition, had the M-Sport appearance package + 19" 442M wheels (which I wanted), Track Handling suspension + M-Brake Kit (in blue), Red Dakota leather interior, and was a CPO. The only 440i/435i options were not CPO and/or F36 (4Dr) variants with 18" wheels (or wheels I didn't want), none of them had the track handling suspension, none of them had the red interior, and most of them were metallic/black and many of them had paint neglect due to lack of owner care (probably lease owners sending them into carwashes). I wasn't about to spend $10K more on a 440i/435i just to have to spend another $5-10K to make it look the way I wanted as used daily driver. Besides I didn't buy this car to go fast man, it's my daily for work. It's plenty quick for the canyons with it's low end torque curve and has 50:50 weight distribution and about 200lbs lighter. I bought the 440i MPE exhaust over the 428i MPE because I prefer a symmetrical dual exhaust setup rather than the stock single exit dual tip exhaust. I left the 430i badge to be clear that I am not pretending to be something I'm not.
I bought a 430i for a few reasons. I wanted a manual and it came in 430i only, the 440i was around 40% more expensive, and for the bigger engine it's only goes 0-60 less than one second quicker (5.1 vs 5.9) so barely seems worth extra weight. I absolutely love my car, for me it's a dream to own something like this.
Please check out my most recent video for pure driving sounds -> th-cam.com/video/i6TwtYJ--o4/w-d-xo.html
Hey where did to get that exhaust?
@@jeff_dubon3121 I got mine at the car dealership, but I would recommend getting it online from a parts dealer instead...most car dealerships will NOT let you buy or install this on the car because their system will say it's not compatible with the car since it's a 440i MPE not the 428/430i MPE. - the part code is in the video description.
BMW should have does this from OEM. One of the best sounding 4-cylinders I've heard!
I can’t honestly wait to add this to my 2019 430i thank you for the video
Do you have product number for this to fit on a f32 430i m sport 69’plate ?
how did it come out bro? i have the same car just the gran coupé version & im thinking about doing the same thing
Sounds amazing mate.
I need this in my life!!!! Just got a 2023 430i and can't hear the damn engine at all.
I recently got a '22 430i as loaner car while my car was in service and I hate to admit it but you're totally right, it's very quiet lol. Aside from that, I was impressed with the kick from the additional torque the new models have and despite them being a little bigger now, they still drive great! Get yourself a new exhaust and enjoy your car!
Sounds awesome! I'm also in bay area. How much it costs you parts+labor at dealership?
Sick build, so what type of diffuser is that? Does the 440i m performance diffuser fit the bmw 430i? Can you link the diffuser if possible
Hey man thanks! That is correct, this is the OEM 440i M-Performance diffuser. More info is in the description, but here is the link to the diffuser > www.getbmwparts.com/oem-parts/bmw-f32-33-36-m-performance-rear-diffuser-kit-435i-440i-51192339218
Sounds nice, are you tuned ? Catless down pipes? Or is this all exhaust 440 ?
Thanks! The car is factory/stock tune (none), no other modifications - just the 440i MPE
hi , im looking to buy an bmw 430i 2017 , i saw this video and i really liked the sound that your car makes , can you do another video of it with flybyes and more revs ?
thanks a lot , greatings from portugal !
Hey Edgar, I will see if I can find time to follow-up on this video request. I'm not sure how soon I can make one, but if I have time, I'll do my best.
While I still haven't gotten around to doing another flyby/rev video you should checkout a video from ThicWhips -> --th-cam.com/video/kHT5xm9C5dU-/w-d-xo.html- -- The F30 330i in that video has the same engine (B48) and he has the exact same exhaust (340/440i M Performance Exhaust). My car sounds almost identical so for all intents and purposes that video should be enough to make a good conclusion on how it sounds.
@@F32Koto Thanks brother, never came to my mind searching for an 330i with the same engine 🤷🏻♂️😅
@@edgarcabreira2654 No problem man, safe to say any F30 330i (2017+) have the B48 engine. The F30/F32 - 328i/428i (2014-2016) have the N20 engine. Unfortunately there a lot less videos of the B48 variants, but there's a few good ones out there :)
@@edgarcabreira2654 th-cam.com/video/Fqhc8Mt9UZ8/w-d-xo.html
Nice! Planning on doing this as well. Does the m performance exhaust have the exhaust valve or does it eliminate the use of the valve?
From what I know the 440i MPE version eliminates the valve and when ordered through the dealership it also came with the dummy end plug for the oem valve controller. The 435i MPE version has the valve I believe, but you might want to research to find out for sure.
hey man im looking into getting a 2017 430i coupe and definitely want to do a dual exhuast conversion. may i ask what year is your car? and also, did all you need was the M Rear Bumper + Diffuser and the Exhuast for everything to fit without having to weld extra pipes?
In my case I only changed the diffuser section since I already had the M rear bumper (since they're two separate parts). No extra pipes were necessary but of course they will have to cut and clamp the new one on.
@@F32Koto thank you brother 🙏🏽 your car is beautiful
@@cbxss2.094 Thank you brother I appreciate it, no problem at all~
hello, if I have a 430i 2019 M pack, the difuser for 440i is fitting without any problem?
I know the 428i and 430i are very similar. Can I do this to my 428i? I love the fact that it would just be the exhaust I don't need tunes or anything I don't want to damage my car in the long run. Where did you buy it?
I not sure if the 440i MPE will work on the 428i, but I know there are videos of the 435i MPE on the 428i (th-cam.com/video/Wbg10drLUFY/w-d-xo.html). Tentatively I don't see why 440i MPE wouldn't work, but it would be better to ask a local BMW shop about it to be sure. I bought the exhaust directly through my local BMW dealership in Fremont, CA...however, most dealerships will NOT let you do this, I just so happened to get lucky and worked with some advisors who were also into modding their own cars and helped me get this approved through the dealership. Generally it is better to work with a local independent BMW specialist shop (preferably one that does aftermarket and/or motorsport stuff), those will be the places that will be more likely to help you get this kind of work done.
Hey! I’m getting this installed soon and need help. Did you have to purchase another hanger for the other side? The 430i is a single exit so it only had one hanger i think?
I had this done at my local dealership so I wasn't involved with the installation process. You are correct though, the 430i is a single exit dual tip exhaust from stock, so naturally converting it to the dual exhaust, unless the 440i MPE happens to come with an extra hanger, you'll probably need to get an additional one.
@@F32Koto so I’m guessing yours prob came with an extra hanger if your shop was able to install it! Thanks for the fast response!
Do you have the stock exhaust by any chance bro ?
Would this work on the gran coupe?
Hey bud - I thought the MPE don't have valves? I would love it with valves just like with my 330i however.
From what I know the 435i MPE supposedly has valves, but the 440i MPE does not have valves
@@F32Koto Man thanks for the reply I thought you might have forgotten about the video! So would yours on this car be the 435I/335I MPE? Do you have any part number for this. Mine is the 330I F30 with the B48 which is the same as yours but for the 4 series?
@@mazalex2556 The one I have is the 440i MPE. I have the part codes in the description, but I'm not sure what the 435i/335i part code is however, I think you should be able to find it pretty easily with a Google search.
@@F32Koto it’s just because when you change to sport from comfort it sounded so much different so there must have been valves involved but as far as I’m aware the 440i MPE is valveless
@@mazalex2556You're correct the sound changes, but this is related to the change in engine tuning from comfort to sport/sport+. My exhaust has the dummy plug due to the valveless design of the 440i MPE so everything you hear is simply down to tuning. If sound volume is a concern, its not significantly louder, but I'm sure you have your reasons for wanting the valve.
Could you explain how the dealership installed this? Did it have to be welded on or was it a perfect fit? Would you be able to refer me to the service advisor who was able to get this installed? I'd like to do this to my 428i
It was welded on my 428i
Is it possible to add quad tip exhaust tips?
Yes you can definitely do quad exhausts, either custom fab or aftermarket (bmw doesn't offer an oem quad for the non-M 4-series, only the M4). Just make sure you get an aftermarket diffuser that supports quad tip
Is the exhaust basically the same as the single exit other than the fact that it’s split?
That's a good question that I also had. I would assume there are some differences because the single exit was designed specifically for the 2.0 (N20 motor) but since this is the 440i MPE this is obviously designed for the 3.0 (B58 motor). Unfortunately I haven't had a 2.0 (B48 or N20) BMW with the single exit MPE to compare in person against my setup so I'm not sure if or what the differences would be sound-wise
How much was the mpe exhaust?
I wanna say the exhaust itself was about $1200 and $600 labor + tax around $1900/2000 all set and done. It's OEM+ and keeps the warranty so long as it's done by a dealership or bmw certified independent shop. There are other louder and more "fancy" aftermarket alternatives for the same price or a little more, but most have a resonator delete and will require a catless dp to accommodate the naturally more aggressive burbles from the resonator delete which will both void the warranty and make the car not smog legal in CA.
Is there any cutting/welding involved or is this process reversible if I eventually want to sell it stock? Also appreciate the responses in the comments I've been looking to do this for a while on my '19 430i
For the actual installation process, you might consult some forums as I didn't install it myself, but I believe in my specific case (based on what I can see) they did cut the OEM exhaust, aligned the new one, and used an exhaust clamp for the connection point. As for reversibility, I'm fairly sure most muffler shops can find a way to refit the OEM one if you wanted to put it back.
@@F32Koto got it, that makes sense. do you remember how much you payed for the installation at the muffler shop? And all I would need to bring to the guys at the shop is the bmw m sport bumper, m performance exhaust and the tips right?
@@F32Koto also do you know if this voids warranty?
@@erahia8702 I had mine installed at the dealership I am a regular at and the cost was around $650 which was more or less the same as another highly rated independent shop in my area. Having it done at the dealership in my case ensured my car kept it's warranty which is why I preferred to do it there. You will need order the M-Performance Exhaust/Tips and the M Performance diffuser (all part numbers in the description)
hey, sorry another question - i already have the m sport bumper but it is ONLY single exit, do I need to buy a m sport bumper that has dual exit AND the diffuser that is dual exit? Or can I just buy the diffuser that is dual exit?
Just to clarify, the bumper and diffuser are 2 separate pieces. The bumper part is the piece that is the same color as the car, the diffuser is the grey part on the bottom (or black part in my video). If you already have the m sport bumper, all you need to do is replace the oem (single exit) diffuser with the dual exhaust diffuser (part# - 51-19-2-339-218)
Actually you don't need to buy the different diffuser if you want the MPE there are 2 diff MPE the single exit one with dual tips (I had it installed on my 2018 430i M sport gran coupe almost a month or so ago and I love it) and then there is the one he put on his which is the dual exit one with single tips on each side, it just depends which look you wanna go for, either the single exit or the dual exit (I preferred the single exit myself) so its all up to you.
Works for automatic too right ?
Yes, my car is an automatic and it works with mine. Typically mufflers will work regardless of the transmission type as far as I know, it doesn't really have anything to do with the transmission.
4 cylinder?
Hi dude, can u tell me where you got the exhaust kit?
Yea I ordered it directly from the local BMW dealership. You can also get it from GetBMWParts if you look up 440i M Performance Exhaust
@@F32Koto Thats a different rear bumper than the stock one correct? B48 Motor?
@@ItsSerialBoX There are 2 different rear bumpers 1) Base model or 2) M-Sport. Both are OEM, but based on the car's package. This bumper is the OEM M-Sport version. The part that has changed is the diffuser portion (black part)...the OEM stock part for the 428/430i is a dual-tip left side exit, but I have changed it to the dual single-tip exit M-Performance 440i diffuser in order to use the 440i M-Performance exhaust. - Hope this answers the question.
So its the M-sport version bumper for the 430i, but with the dual tip M-performace 440i diffuser?
Thank you so much for the reply. I wish I could see what your stock bumper looked like, do you have a before picture?
@@ItsSerialBoX Almost, the first part is correct it is the M-Sport bumper with dual single-exit (aka: dual exhaust) M-Performance 440i diffuser. Reason I wanted to clarify is because "dual tip" can be interpreted by a shop as two pipes side by side rather than one pipe on the left and right separate from each other. Let me know if you have any other questions~
For more photos including the stock exhaust config, you can check my IG: f32_koto
For clearer reference:
"Dual-Tip" Diffuser -> bit.ly/3c44Acf
Does it drone on the freeway
Nope not at all -- if you're anywhere under 3K RPM, the exhaust is barely noticeable unless you're on throttle
Is this the m power kit that add 30 + horse in torque power and has to be tune or is this just the m power muffler? Trying to figure If you can purchase the muffler only and get the burbles and cracks just with adding the muffler??
The kit you're talking about is the MPPSK which is only for the 435i and 440i as far as I know. This is purely just the 440i muffler and as per the video you can get some stock burbles and cracks. They won't be gun shot loud (need a tune and catless downpipe for that) but the stock pops are still pretty noticeable and you don't risk pissing everyone off lol
@@F32Koto would catless dp void ur warranty
Is this n20?
No the 30i models are B46/B48 - since mine is from California it's a B46 technically (for SULEV emissions standards)
Why not just get a 440?
What's your point? What does that have anything to do with this video and why does it even matter?
@@F32Koto I am just saying it looks like you're looking to make your car faster and sound better right? Just get the 440! It's a way bigger and better base to start with.
@@BrandonFrisco That's just your opinion though right? I know the 440i is a faster and more "build-able" car, but when I bought this car I was shopping for CPOs as a daily and this was by far the best available option. It was a 2017 model with only 23K miles, was in mint condition, had the M-Sport appearance package + 19" 442M wheels (which I wanted), Track Handling suspension + M-Brake Kit (in blue), Red Dakota leather interior, and was a CPO. The only 440i/435i options were not CPO and/or F36 (4Dr) variants with 18" wheels (or wheels I didn't want), none of them had the track handling suspension, none of them had the red interior, and most of them were metallic/black and many of them had paint neglect due to lack of owner care (probably lease owners sending them into carwashes). I wasn't about to spend $10K more on a 440i/435i just to have to spend another $5-10K to make it look the way I wanted as used daily driver.
Besides I didn't buy this car to go fast man, it's my daily for work. It's plenty quick for the canyons with it's low end torque curve and has 50:50 weight distribution and about 200lbs lighter. I bought the 440i MPE exhaust over the 428i MPE because I prefer a symmetrical dual exhaust setup rather than the stock single exit dual tip exhaust. I left the 430i badge to be clear that I am not pretending to be something I'm not.
Great response 😊
I bought a 430i for a few reasons. I wanted a manual and it came in 430i only, the 440i was around 40% more expensive, and for the bigger engine it's only goes 0-60 less than one second quicker (5.1 vs 5.9) so barely seems worth extra weight. I absolutely love my car, for me it's a dream to own something like this.