I'd love to see a video of a few LTT members building their own custom boards with parts they choose. The curveball could be ruling out common switches like cherry.
To be honest I prefer USB-A as you usually have more of those on your laptop or PC, while I only have one C and none on my PC. Having both options is certainly nice though.
usb c is awesome but you are lucky if you have more than 2 on your motherboard/laptop and expanding to get extra usb c is complicated. I can't wait for the day when you will have 5+ usb c on your laptop/motherboard and maybe 1 or 2 usb a. Hopefully it's sooner than later.
I got the regular Falchion with MX red switches and it's a brilliant keyboard. Battery life is insanely good, the cover isn't a gimmick and it holds the keyboard in place really well, and prevents it from getting dirty underneath (using it as a portable laptop keyboard). I personally didn't install Asus' software because I don't like the 100 services they run in the background, but you don't really have to install it as you can use a lot of the features without the software. The manual has the key shortcuts for all the stuff you need such as macros and lighting etc
@@Len_M. Nope, my desktop (which has an rog strix motherboard) has 32gb and my laptop has 16gb of ram, and it's not really about the memory usage - but the hit on performance. If your PC has a lot of bloatware that's running in the background and you've used it for a few years, try running a benchmark like 3dmark's Timespy, and do a before and after a fresh install of Windows, with only drivers installed (or compare against people with similar specs to you who have done a fresh install) These programs will use some of your CPU by doing stuff you're unaware of while running in the background - like updating themselves or polling all kinds of data. I'd love my computers to function as intended for as long as possible so I avoid installing anything that's unnecessary
@@premoboy first glance and I thought this keyboard was good but for $160 jesus, for comparison you could buy a fully built keychron q1 which isnt really a fair comparison since it's not wireless and does not have a touchbar which is probably the reason you're getting this board but that thing is a 75% keyboard fully made of fricken aluminum
Depend on what you compare it to, that keyboard isn't really expensive. It also has the "gaming wireless" (no idea if the "gaming 2.4Ghz" makes any difference compared to normal 2.4 Ghz since I use cable when using my keyboard with PC and Bluetooth when using it with the phone) and a touch bar (kinda innovative in some senses, may not be practical)
@@tuannguyenminh2870 In my experience, BlueTooth is noticeably slow, while (usually) higher end bespoke dongles are fast enough to be functionally instant.
I've seen exactly one of these form factor keyboards with actual F keys. I'd probably get one if there was more choice. A magnetic clip on f1 strip would be fun
In light of the latest Linux challenge, I would love to see info about the software compatibility of peripherals. Namely, that it's always been hot garbage and needs to be reverse engineered every time. I think a big name like LTT could coerce manufacturers to at least release specs on the protocol. Security aside, this is where WebUSB could shine; imagine going to their website to configure your keyboard instead of needing to install their software to change the colors once.
What is WebUSB? Never heard of it, but that does sound interesting and I too would like if they made configuration tools cross-platform (assuming they don't contribute to OpenRGB or something and work with the thankless devs currently doing reverse engineers)
For someone who is one of the tens of keyboard enthusiast as out there this is a pretty damn good keyboard. The build quality is really solid and the switches are pretty good though they do have a bit of a scratchy texture to them like your regular cherry switch. Out the box as far as non-custom keyboards go I’d probably put this third after the ducky one two mini line and keychron k6, a bit of grease and you have a very nice keyboard on your hands. Only thing I have a complaint about is the lack of stabilisers for the larger keys outside of the space bar, they seem like a minor thing but they make a big difference to the typing experience, though for the “gamer” market its not the biggest of deals
I’ll put down here in the replies that I personally daily drive a ducky one two sf with speed silvers because the keyboard elitists will come for me otherwise, though I do also have a custom gateron yellow keyboard which I like for gaming but find fatiguing to type on. If it wasn’t obvious I vastly prefer linear switches and got the red switch variant of the keyboard which I found to be perfectly acceptable for the average
As an additional addendum, yes I’m aware I have an addiction to keyboards and yes it’s a problem, which is why I’ve sworn I will not but another keyboard until the next one which intrigues me comes out, in which case the cycle continues
@@meatballg8655 You seem like one of the who reasonable keyboard enthusiasts. Too many are too far up their own arses about how their aluminium case with fruit dessert switches are the only way, and how they carefully lubed each and every switch.
@@tams805 yeah a lot of them can get very snobby, happens with everything though, the further down the rabbit hole you go the more you know about the topic, and when others don’t know so much about the topic they get a sense of superiority which goes to their head. As I see it most of these snobs buy the 500 600 700 pound keyboards which they have to assemble themselves down to the soldering of the PCB, most people ain’t got time for that or don’t want to learn because its a niche skill they’ll probably never use again. Off the shelf stuff is good as long as you pick the good ones. I wish these people would spend their time being more constructive with their knowledge instead of using it to look down on others.
It looks like such a good keyboard. I just wish that they made a version with a function row. Even just small rubber dome rubber keys if the size needs to be kept down.
Bro, no Bad stabs, bad keycaps, bad mount type, skeleton without uppercase, bad switches(because we can't replace keycaps, which are awful. No hotswap. Fl680 is a lot better. And all the Chinese boards(about 100 bucks) are better than this crap, which is absolutely funny.
@@Proaz15 lesson number 1, don't believe everything you heard on internet The dude complain because it's not hotswap. who the fuck care, you gonna buy a new keyboard before you break it anyway. this keyboard cost almost $140 no way it's that bad, go try and feel it on your nearby rog store.
@@whisperviz1346 what hes saying is that this is honestly not very good for the money. for $50 less you could get the exact same thing from a smaller manufacturer. These big companies think they can get away with this, but the market is changing.
@@overratedo not good for money? Obviously, it's fucking ROG. They can buy keychron keyboard, put ROG logo on it and double it's price and people will still buy it. Bad keyboard? nope. Overprice? yes.
That side touch bar actually looks like it would be useful, especially for a small keyboard like that. Not having a dedicated volume button is always an instant turn off and this looks like it could even be useful in other stuff. Now I just have to figure out a way to talk myself in spending $150 + shipping for it...
Too many people don’t understand that the OEMs like Razer, Asus, Corsair, etc., don’t even make decent boards, let alone good ones. While Corsair, Steelseries, and Asus are trying to step up their game, I would soomer recommend a Keychron Q1, KBD67 Lite, or a cheap Skyloong GK hotswap board. There are just so many better options out there…
but many people also dont care or havent been exposed to "enthuasiast" boards of courses an enthusiast board that costs about the same with lubed switches, cut stabs, foam insert, etc. as these oem boards would be better but the average consumer/gamer doesnt really dont care and they just want a nice keyboard they can just pickup from a local store. these boards you listd arent always as easily purchasable because they are either always out of stock or its just inconvenient to buy on their website.
@@grainer3878 Can't speak on the KDB67 Lite but both GK Series Boards (Like the GK61 and GK64) as well as the Keychron Q Series (including Q1) are available on Amazon of all places. Can't get easier to buy than that and are in-stock items. At the very least they could get a decent keyboard for cheaper than these Gamer Keyboards and have better compatibility for things such as keycap sets or different key switches.
And those are all keyboards that you can't just pick up anywhere. Also, the customer service for them can be atrocious, with little room for recourse, and those company's quality control can be lacking at times.
@@tams805 seriously? While it’s not as easy as swinging by a Best Buy, if you’re in North America or Europe online retailers such as Amazon is pretty common now a-days. Additionally the last big name mechanical keyboard was a Corsair and it was atrocious for the 90 or so USD I paid for it. Would regularly be locked up at start-up, lights in the default RGB and non responsive, until I reached back and unplugged then replugged the cable. Additionally that keyboard was a fixed cable so I couldn’t exactly replace the cable when it failed or change lengths to suit my needs. And that problem with the lockups were with two of them bought about a year apart from each other. Not really a good indicator of quality control or build quality. My next mechanical after that was a Magicforce, and outside of the Mini-USB port it has been rock solid reliable over the course of 3.5 years and still have it even as I’ve acquired other keyboards.
ASUS! Make a 84 key setup with the esc/f-keys directly above that top row and add a sensor bar or another couple small keys in front of the spacebar. Bonus points for splitting the spacebar in half and allowing us to reprogram half the spacebar. IMO the thumb could be doing a lot more work in certain games.
@@tams805 well you can just build your own keyboard. Search up custom mechanical keyboard on TH-cam. You can pretty much do anything when you build your own keyboard.
@@tams805 cuz it's really not that hard or expensive. And its fun and you make something you use everyday that you're proud of. Plus you can make it exactly to your specs
i made the decision to buy this keyboard almost a year ago now and i can say that i'm glad i did. i love my keyboard. there was a bit of a learning curve coming from using the k95 for many years but i love the form factor and how much desk space i have for mouse movement. i just wish it was supported in icue like my asus mobo so i can use just one software to control my rgb
I have the older Falchion. It's okay for the price (I got it for about 100usd), I want the Nordic keyboard layout so not as many options for me. Would have appreciated the ability to pair with multiple devices if they're coming up with a new one though.
For the price of an aluminum keyboard with a rotary encoder, sough facing LEDs, standard keykaps and more premium feel you can have a plastic barely customisable board with a janky feature at best, non standard keykaps, north facing LEDs... Hmm. Is it just me or are the big companies making the worst shit for your money? Now, I understand that most of y'all don't share in my custom keyboard hobby, but legitimately give it a try. My first ever "custom" keyboard was Yenkee Panzer with aftermaket/lubed/modded stabs, diy foam between plate and pcb, dampening silicone pour and Kailh Pro Purple switches. One of the best thing for the money in my personal opinion, still works like a charm sounds way better than most of prebuild keyboards that are many the price of mine and felt super amazing to build.
i was full razer until i recently bought this, i had 3 blackwidow keyboards which all failed due to multiple issues with lighting, keys breaking or multi media making the keybard un usable, this keyboard is insanely good, and at 50 % off during black friday was a steal, this is way higher quality, and ive only needed to charge it twice since buying it! glad to see that its getting more time in the lime light!
honestly it sounds like a great keyboard. Maybe there's finally a reason for me to upgrade from my logitech k800. although I still need the full size keyboard. Can't live without that
I've had my rog falchion for months and I've loved it! Edit: got the reds and they feel great. I have actually disabled the touch bar - to me it was more of a gimmac since my speakers have a dial, and I'm happy with pause play being fn+ key. I wanted the keyboard for a great keyboard and it's really lived up to it. It's expensive as hell, and I wish they did one without the touch bar and knock 40-50 off- that I feel would be a great in between. It's expensive, but I was going to build my own and ended up double the price and didn't have the time to do it :') happier with this that my logitech g513 carbon with blue gx, infact it replaced my g513 carbon :)
Supposedly you can use it for switching between apps, might be useful if I can use it swap between second most recent apps or to a specific app if open.
From what I can tell, if you want to replace the keycaps on this, the keys that look non-standard are the Backspace, Enter, and R-Shift. Some more expensive GMK sets _may_ have keys that fit, but your standard AliExpress/Amazon kit likely will not.
I have an Ozone Tactical mini. Got it for like 50€ and it is very much the best keyboard I had in my life. It is very similar to this model (without the fancy Touch Bar). Bluetooth, VERY nice RGB (like the one in this ROG keyboard) and usb-c. If you want something this size but more affordable, I TOTALLY recommend it.
Personally have had this keyboard since launch and absolutely love it (Cherry Red). Touch Bar is actually really cool, when i want to use it.. If your accidentally hitting it to much or just don't use it, you can disable the touch bar and just have it for aesthetics/health bar like its shown in the video
@@zume420 hmm lol. I rewatched the video because I started doubting myself. Around 1:00 James says that those switches are "not from Cherry". Then later in the video he makes a switch comparison. Those are ROG NX. What did I miss here?
I really wish they had one that's the same width but with the function row, imo the smaller width is a lot more important than the height, guess I'll just be sticking with Chinese manufacturers that can actually make a good form factor.
I’ve had one of these for like 6 months and I highly recommend. Only thing is I wish it had a numpad. I can totally get by without it it’s just that when I set it in my lap it’s just barely wide enough to fit on my legs but sometimes it slips and falls between my legs. But that’s just because I’m a cheap ass without a proper desk. But otherwise it’s perfect. I have the brown keys and they are amazing
Great review. Would appreciate if you did typing speed tests on this even though it might be a personal thing (I assume the brown are the preferred switch for typing). Just ordered one as I was really looking for small keyboard that still had volume controls, delete and insert keys.
I just recently got a mechanical keyboard in that size from Amazon for work, but it's too late to send it back now... Darn it, this is better in every way, including the plastic cover _(I got a case for mine that is bigger than necessary and takes up loads of space in my backpack)._ But I really can't keep buying things I neither need nor can afford...
How much did you pay of it to regret not being to swap it for one which costs more than 150bucks? fyi, I highly recommend giving the stabilizers a lube, if you can lube the switches too do that as well
@@Daniel-dj7fh I paid 80€ for the keyboard and case, and 8€ for a set of o-rings for the benefit of my co-workers ears. I'd be paying about 170€ for the Falchion, but the higher quality, additional features, smaller transport footprint and better battery life make me feel like that would be worth it. I have also thought about lube before, but I'm not _that_ much into keyboards so it hardly feels worth the effort of learning how to take apart switches in the first place; and of course I'd also want to lube my main keyboard, but that could be extra difficult because it has optical switches that might cause issues if lube gets in the wrong places.
I like how most of the keys are standard. I write off most keyboards with nonstandard caps but the choice to only have some nonstandard is a solid compromise.
@@bismuth7730 You cant have a keyboard this size with out some compromise. You either ditch the keys altogether as some have done arguably that is the better choice. or you shrink that row.
funny part is, falchion come with pbt keycaps while claymore II still use abs finishing and it keycaps doesn't support 3rd party keycaps. *smh I almost bought that claymore II. Imagine spending 200 bucks for a keyboard that looks like shit after 6 months of usage and you can replace the keycaps.
@@Masterrunescapeer yeah, but than what is the point of havino a tenkeyless keyboard if you buy a separate num pad and place it next to the keyboard lol. It defeats the purpose of having a 10keyless. In that case why not just get a full size KB?
@@Masterrunescapeer well i use my pc a lot, I always had full size keyboard and big and heavy mice. I am 35 and so far ever since i was 10 or 12 i qm using my pc like that and never had any problems cause i dont use "ergonomic" pheripherals
I have this keyboard for my travel use. It does come with Cherry MX switch options. I have the cherry brown. It's light weight and small easy to pack into suit case. Not a fan of ROG, but it's a good product.
The volume control on the left side isnt a gimmick, but what I had noticed in mine (cherry reds) recently is when it gets low battery, it double registers an input (e.g. i press a once, it registers as aa, and wireless receiver is just around 1 ft away give or take), but good keyboard though
I'm Running a kdb custom built board with browns and I can tell you that rog falchion is loud as hell. Obviously the body has like no sound insulation.
I've been using it for a few months and it is great. Costs a lot for a keyboard that size but for me at least it feels like its worth every penny. The touch slide is very good and the whole board feels sturdy and good quality.
I hate clicky, love tactile, was just okay with linear. But I absolutely fell in love with corsairs optical linears, and they have shorter distance than most. Evga has opticals that are a little shorter than corsair but I could never get evga software to work. That's when I returned it and got the corsair k100. It also has those sandblasted texture key caps. My fave keyboard so far. Somethings I'd like different but hey. I wish I could mix and max things from different boards and make my perfect one.
Well for a big brand name keyboard with their own designed switches (sounds quite good) and keycaps, complete wireless (4000mAh battery is huge) and wired options, seems like great RGB, looks like very functional capacitive side bar, and even comes with a unique cover, this seems like a win for that price. The stabs actually sounds okay (except for the blue one, it really does sound rattly).
For the Ultimate Minimalist? Where is Riley? ... James is fantastic though love seeing him in the videos. No diss to James but minimalism is Riley's whole thing haha
The falchion is used in the series of books, en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eragon, perhaps someone involved in the release of this product is of the age where they referenced it
If this makes it to sweden I'll buy one if I can make up my mind whether or not I can do without F-keys and home/end keys (doesn't bother me on my mac lol but you use them more on a pc I guess). This looks a lot better design wise than ROGs earlier keyboards, I'm a huge fan of the look of a lot of ROG products but the keyboards never looked very great.
I've been using a 60% for a good 6 months now and I must say not having the f-keys bother me less than not having dedicated arrows and numpad. But I also hardly use the f-row and navigation keys.
@@Daniel-dj7fh like Tams80 said, as a dev, I'd not be able to use the keyboard. If doing anything web side, you need ctrl+f5, though you could argue most modern browsers finally support ctrl+shift+r, but a lot of my IDE shortcuts would then need to change to multi+combo mappings (which I dislike, e.g. Visual studio ctrl+k then ctrl+c to comment selection, easier to just have it be a single key and function. Alt+F10 is apply changes in rider, etc.). I am considering getting a StreamDeck or equivalent for shortcuts, but that kind of defeats the purpose of getting rid of function keys in the first place. Think basically outside of gaming, most people use some function keys. Also, you'll pry my dedicated media control keys and volume slider on my keyboard from my cold dead hands, so much nicer not having to keycombo/have a dedicated spot. I love the left side scroll display on the video, the steelseries Apex 5/7/Pro with the display are also super interesting, could live with double tapping multimedia button for skip track.
@@Daniel-dj7fh I've had a 60% for 4 months, and can now highly recommend a 65% board. Not having the arrow keys bothers me more than I thought it would. But love having so much room to swing my mouse around.
$130 - $160 seems to be the regular pricing for quality mechanical keyboards though many of the $80 - $120 keyboards are almost as good if lacking in features (save for Razer as those things are devoid of any real features despite claiming to have on board memory).
Keychron, Ducky Mini One 2, and Anne Pro2 are pretty damn good 60% keyboards for around $100 and are configurable. I have yet to use the 2nd function layer on my Anne Pro 2 though but I can't really think of anything. I also switch between it and a normal keyboard so my muscle memory gets weird.
I recently got a $25 HP mechanical keyboard with rebranded outemu blue. I haven't tried any other higher priced keyboards. This is my first time getting a mechanical keyboard. Worth the money but now I regret getting the blues since I find them annoying.
@@amelodyoflove456 I'm guessing you're no longer in the return period? Outemu browns aren't too bad but are pretty rough feeling compared to the likes of Gateron, Kailh, Steelseries QX2 and, dare I say it, Cherry (they've been resting on their laurels and have somewhat fallen behind while still commanding a premium for their switches). Right now I'm switching between HyperX's Aqua switches in the Alloy Origin and the Glorious Pandas in my Glorious GMMK keyboard (it had Gateron browns but I swapped those out for the more tactile Pandas). I've had the Razer Huntsman with purple switches, Blackwidow Elite with Kailh/ Razer Orange switches, and a HyperX Alloy Elite with Cherry MX Browns (most of my mechanical keyboards had MX browns and then I realized how they're not as tactile as I'd like compared to others).
I have the (i'm assuming original) Cherry MX Red version and after a few months of use I've gotta say that I'm super happy with the purchase. It cost 150USD which was high enough that I was worried about the investment, but after using it against my girlfriend's Razer Huntsman I'm convinced I made the right choice. Having that touch bar on the left is a game changer and the arrow keys are essential.
Having seen Apple's touch bar I don't know why people hate it. Function keys should be standard perhaps, but having context-specific shortcut keys like that, seemed honestly to be quite useful
The problem is that you have to look down to your keyboard to perform any Shortcut because there is no tactical feedback which is often slower then doing it in the ui
It wasn’t bad but often the shortcuts took longer than standard media keys on the F row. Adjusting the volume and controlling video playback took more pressed, in most use cases. But the flexibility is very useful.
I bought a Falchion and it just arrived today! I unboxed it like 10 minutes before watching this, what are the odds?! I already have a full sized keyboard at my desk but wanted one of these to use a keyboard in bed. lol or wherever I need to. I actually quite like it. It feels really nice!
I was sold. untill i saw it was 65% instead of 75%... Its nice of them to include the function lock, but its not a replacement for dedicated keys. I think the Keychron K2 still wins for me.
"Press R to pay Fespect" made me giggle more than I should've. As for the Falchion, for exactly $100 more than the Logitech mechanical model I'm using, I don't know if it's worth it. I'm sure it would be more solid feeling, but is that worth $100?
Reminds me a lot of the small KeyChron keyboards, but I much prefer their more standard key layout - as a developer, I need that Home and End. I'd like the touch bar though...
I'd love to see a video of a few LTT members building their own custom boards with parts they choose. The curveball could be ruling out common switches like cherry.
No big name OEM, no Cherry or cheap Gateron, Kalih, or Outemu clones.
Let’s see what they can pull off!
@@matasa7463 cries in u4t and black inks
@@matasa7463 What kind of switches does that even leave you with? Topre? Gateron, Kailh and Outemu make like 99% of switches.
@@naota3k akko switches.
@@naota3k c³, zeal, everglide, durock, tecsee and stuff, there's way more to choose from now
I’m glad USB-C is becoming more common for keyboards.
To be honest I prefer USB-A as you usually have more of those on your laptop or PC, while I only have one C and none on my PC. Having both options is certainly nice though.
usb c is awesome but you are lucky if you have more than 2 on your motherboard/laptop and expanding to get extra usb c is complicated. I can't wait for the day when you will have 5+ usb c on your laptop/motherboard and maybe 1 or 2 usb a. Hopefully it's sooner than later.
@@yorimirus isn't it a usb A to C wire? The type C end is on the keyboard i assume
Wow! I care so much about that.....
Bruh ur pfp, deadname
I got the regular Falchion with MX red switches and it's a brilliant keyboard.
Battery life is insanely good, the cover isn't a gimmick and it holds the keyboard in place really well, and prevents it from getting dirty underneath (using it as a portable laptop keyboard).
I personally didn't install Asus' software because I don't like the 100 services they run in the background, but you don't really have to install it as you can use a lot of the features without the software. The manual has the key shortcuts for all the stuff you need such as macros and lighting etc
You low on RAM? I mean I used to shut every single thing not needed too, but I haven’t felt the need anymore.
@@Len_M. Nope, my desktop (which has an rog strix motherboard) has 32gb and my laptop has 16gb of ram, and it's not really about the memory usage - but the hit on performance.
If your PC has a lot of bloatware that's running in the background and you've used it for a few years, try running a benchmark like 3dmark's Timespy, and do a before and after a fresh install of Windows, with only drivers installed (or compare against people with similar specs to you who have done a fresh install)
These programs will use some of your CPU by doing stuff you're unaware of while running in the background - like updating themselves or polling all kinds of data. I'd love my computers to function as intended for as long as possible so I avoid installing anything that's unnecessary
Why did I just buy a new Keyboard! I'll figure out someway to justify this lol, I love that touch bar idk why but I really do.
@Gепshlп Iмраст 🅥 ah great a bot
I bought a new keyboard 6 weeks ago. It was this exact keyboard hahaha
@@premoboy Do you like it?
@@premoboy first glance and I thought this keyboard was good but for $160 jesus, for comparison you could buy a fully built keychron q1 which isnt really a fair comparison since it's not wireless and does not have a touchbar which is probably the reason you're getting this board but that thing is a 75% keyboard fully made of fricken aluminum
It has no numpad so its useless
I like how James was demoralised when he realized that you could get 4 good no name brand keyboards for the price of this one
Depend on what you compare it to, that keyboard isn't really expensive. It also has the "gaming wireless" (no idea if the "gaming 2.4Ghz" makes any difference compared to normal 2.4 Ghz since I use cable when using my keyboard with PC and Bluetooth when using it with the phone) and a touch bar (kinda innovative in some senses, may not be practical)
@@tuannguyenminh2870 In my experience, BlueTooth is noticeably slow, while (usually) higher end bespoke dongles are fast enough to be functionally instant.
@@tuannguyenminh2870 not many use it wireless when gaming, so probably not a relevant feature I’d assume
@@squidlybytes 2.4ghz offers pretty much the same latency as wired on some mouses, so the same can be said for keyboards
@@TheThirdWorldCitizen I don't think so. Most people won't plug it in just for gaming.
Goddamn I love this new trend of paying more for less keyboard
lesse keyboard, MORE SPACE YAHOOOOO
You don't need to buy it
I've seen exactly one of these form factor keyboards with actual F keys. I'd probably get one if there was more choice. A magnetic clip on f1 strip would be fun
Look into 75% keyboards. They've got a similar form factor but all the f keys. :)
Fn+ Numberrow also gets you the f-keys, it's not really annoying if you don't have them
@@Daniel-dj7fh for most people that’d be true, but I use them constantly for dev work
@@Christiancould Yeah, but ASUS don't make a 75%.
@@Octamed Curious to know how the f-keys are used in that sort of situation
If the falchion is made for a true minimalist why isn't Riley doing this video?
Because James specializes in keyboards for LTT. Riley wouldn't really know what the rest of the market currently looks like.
I just wish there was a slightly larger one with home and end keys. Although since I never use pgup and pgdwn I guess I could just remap those.
You can!
PgUp and PgDn has Home and End on the function part. Hold FN and press them for Home/End.
@@Jayxe cool beans good to know. Thanks!
@@Jayxe Yeah, but having to use layers can be very annoying.
Like royalkludge rk71?
In light of the latest Linux challenge, I would love to see info about the software compatibility of peripherals. Namely, that it's always been hot garbage and needs to be reverse engineered every time. I think a big name like LTT could coerce manufacturers to at least release specs on the protocol. Security aside, this is where WebUSB could shine; imagine going to their website to configure your keyboard instead of needing to install their software to change the colors once.
What is WebUSB? Never heard of it, but that does sound interesting and I too would like if they made configuration tools cross-platform (assuming they don't contribute to OpenRGB or something and work with the thankless devs currently doing reverse engineers)
@@magnusanderson6681 A webassembly protocol to allow websites to access USB devices directly.
@@酗 sounds like a security hole
I’m pretty sure VIA and QMK works on Linux.
NO 👏 ONE👏 CARES 👏ABOUT 👏 LINUX 👏 COMPATIBILITY
For someone who is one of the tens of keyboard enthusiast as out there this is a pretty damn good keyboard. The build quality is really solid and the switches are pretty good though they do have a bit of a scratchy texture to them like your regular cherry switch. Out the box as far as non-custom keyboards go I’d probably put this third after the ducky one two mini line and keychron k6, a bit of grease and you have a very nice keyboard on your hands. Only thing I have a complaint about is the lack of stabilisers for the larger keys outside of the space bar, they seem like a minor thing but they make a big difference to the typing experience, though for the “gamer” market its not the biggest of deals
I’ll put down here in the replies that I personally daily drive a ducky one two sf with speed silvers because the keyboard elitists will come for me otherwise, though I do also have a custom gateron yellow keyboard which I like for gaming but find fatiguing to type on. If it wasn’t obvious I vastly prefer linear switches and got the red switch variant of the keyboard which I found to be perfectly acceptable for the average
As an additional addendum, yes I’m aware I have an addiction to keyboards and yes it’s a problem, which is why I’ve sworn I will not but another keyboard until the next one which intrigues me comes out, in which case the cycle continues
@@meatballg8655 You seem like one of the who reasonable keyboard enthusiasts. Too many are too far up their own arses about how their aluminium case with fruit dessert switches are the only way, and how they carefully lubed each and every switch.
@@tams805 yeah a lot of them can get very snobby, happens with everything though, the further down the rabbit hole you go the more you know about the topic, and when others don’t know so much about the topic they get a sense of superiority which goes to their head. As I see it most of these snobs buy the 500 600 700 pound keyboards which they have to assemble themselves down to the soldering of the PCB, most people ain’t got time for that or don’t want to learn because its a niche skill they’ll probably never use again. Off the shelf stuff is good as long as you pick the good ones. I wish these people would spend their time being more constructive with their knowledge instead of using it to look down on others.
It looks like such a good keyboard. I just wish that they made a version with a function row. Even just small rubber dome rubber keys if the size needs to be kept down.
Bro, no
Bad stabs, bad keycaps, bad mount type, skeleton without uppercase, bad switches(because we can't replace keycaps, which are awful. No hotswap. Fl680 is a lot better. And all the Chinese boards(about 100 bucks) are better than this crap, which is absolutely funny.
@@alpha.maimain wait, so this keyboard sucks? Damn, I was so excited to get it.
@@Proaz15 lesson number 1, don't believe everything you heard on internet
The dude complain because it's not hotswap.
who the fuck care, you gonna buy a new keyboard before you break it anyway.
this keyboard cost almost $140
no way it's that bad, go try and feel it on your nearby rog store.
@@whisperviz1346 what hes saying is that this is honestly not very good for the money. for $50 less you could get the exact same thing from a smaller manufacturer. These big companies think they can get away with this, but the market is changing.
@@overratedo not good for money? Obviously, it's fucking ROG.
They can buy keychron keyboard, put ROG logo on it and double it's price and people will still buy it.
Bad keyboard? nope. Overprice? yes.
That side touch bar actually looks like it would be useful, especially for a small keyboard like that. Not having a dedicated volume button is always an instant turn off and this looks like it could even be useful in other stuff.
Now I just have to figure out a way to talk myself in spending $150 + shipping for it...
i'd rather have 5 additional normal keys (which this effectively is)
true... 160€ is a lot.
I'm think of getting a Keychron K8 keyboard for less than half the price
"Browns.. it's tactile" *dies in Glarses*
Even a membrane keyboard more tactile than that
Too many people don’t understand that the OEMs like Razer, Asus, Corsair, etc., don’t even make decent boards, let alone good ones.
While Corsair, Steelseries, and Asus are trying to step up their game, I would soomer recommend a Keychron Q1, KBD67 Lite, or a cheap Skyloong GK hotswap board. There are just so many better options out there…
but many people also dont care or havent been exposed to "enthuasiast" boards
of courses an enthusiast board that costs about the same with lubed switches, cut stabs, foam insert, etc. as these oem boards would be better but the average consumer/gamer doesnt really dont care and they just want a nice keyboard they can just pickup from a local store. these boards you listd arent always as easily purchasable because they are either always out of stock or its just inconvenient to buy on their website.
@@grainer3878 Can't speak on the KDB67 Lite but both GK Series Boards (Like the GK61 and GK64) as well as the Keychron Q Series (including Q1) are available on Amazon of all places. Can't get easier to buy than that and are in-stock items.
At the very least they could get a decent keyboard for cheaper than these Gamer Keyboards and have better compatibility for things such as keycap sets or different key switches.
And those are all keyboards that you can't just pick up anywhere.
Also, the customer service for them can be atrocious, with little room for recourse, and those company's quality control can be lacking at times.
@@tams805 Have you ever tried them before? I’ve seen worst quality from the big OEMs…
@@tams805 seriously? While it’s not as easy as swinging by a Best Buy, if you’re in North America or Europe online retailers such as Amazon is pretty common now a-days.
Additionally the last big name mechanical keyboard was a Corsair and it was atrocious for the 90 or so USD I paid for it. Would regularly be locked up at start-up, lights in the default RGB and non responsive, until I reached back and unplugged then replugged the cable. Additionally that keyboard was a fixed cable so I couldn’t exactly replace the cable when it failed or change lengths to suit my needs. And that problem with the lockups were with two of them bought about a year apart from each other. Not really a good indicator of quality control or build quality.
My next mechanical after that was a Magicforce, and outside of the Mini-USB port it has been rock solid reliable over the course of 3.5 years and still have it even as I’ve acquired other keyboards.
ASUS! Make a 84 key setup with the esc/f-keys directly above that top row and add a sensor bar or another couple small keys in front of the spacebar. Bonus points for splitting the spacebar in half and allowing us to reprogram half the spacebar. IMO the thumb could be doing a lot more work in certain games.
....just build a keyboard at that point
@@Gatsby_OW What is it with you lot and saying 'just build your own'?!
@@tams805 well you can just build your own keyboard. Search up custom mechanical keyboard on TH-cam. You can pretty much do anything when you build your own keyboard.
@@tams805 cuz it's really not that hard or expensive. And its fun and you make something you use everyday that you're proud of. Plus you can make it exactly to your specs
i made the decision to buy this keyboard almost a year ago now and i can say that i'm glad i did. i love my keyboard. there was a bit of a learning curve coming from using the k95 for many years but i love the form factor and how much desk space i have for mouse movement. i just wish it was supported in icue like my asus mobo so i can use just one software to control my rgb
9:05 When James said "I digress", all JayzTwoCents fans COMBINE!!
I have the older Falchion. It's okay for the price (I got it for about 100usd), I want the Nordic keyboard layout so not as many options for me. Would have appreciated the ability to pair with multiple devices if they're coming up with a new one though.
Blue switches are for those people who wanna wake everyone in a 10 mile radius pretty handy if u ask me
My dad types on his keyboard with those switches in another room and it wakes me up so often 😂😂
@@Adrianwe44 Box navies. For when you want to wake up the entire neighbourhood but goddamn if I don't love 'em.
Nah, these blue switches are just slightly louder than the brown. Now it they were buckling spring switches...
Yeah.... one day my boss asked me, why were you so angry while typing....
this is a decent keyboard. I do love the volume slider. I also bought Nuphy Air75 and think it's my fav keyboard ever.
7:14 that was unexpected but somehow didn't distract from the video at all
For the price of an aluminum keyboard with a rotary encoder, sough facing LEDs, standard keykaps and more premium feel you can have a plastic barely customisable board with a janky feature at best, non standard keykaps, north facing LEDs...
Hmm. Is it just me or are the big companies making the worst shit for your money?
Now, I understand that most of y'all don't share in my custom keyboard hobby, but legitimately give it a try. My first ever "custom" keyboard was Yenkee Panzer with aftermaket/lubed/modded stabs, diy foam between plate and pcb, dampening silicone pour and Kailh Pro Purple switches. One of the best thing for the money in my personal opinion, still works like a charm sounds way better than most of prebuild keyboards that are many the price of mine and felt super amazing to build.
i was full razer until i recently bought this, i had 3 blackwidow keyboards which all failed due to multiple issues with lighting, keys breaking or multi media making the keybard un usable, this keyboard is insanely good, and at 50 % off during black friday was a steal, this is way higher quality, and ive only needed to charge it twice since buying it! glad to see that its getting more time in the lime light!
honestly it sounds like a great keyboard. Maybe there's finally a reason for me to upgrade from my logitech k800. although I still need the full size keyboard. Can't live without that
I've had my rog falchion for months and I've loved it! Edit: got the reds and they feel great. I have actually disabled the touch bar - to me it was more of a gimmac since my speakers have a dial, and I'm happy with pause play being fn+ key. I wanted the keyboard for a great keyboard and it's really lived up to it. It's expensive as hell, and I wish they did one without the touch bar and knock 40-50 off- that I feel would be a great in between. It's expensive, but I was going to build my own and ended up double the price and didn't have the time to do it :') happier with this that my logitech g513 carbon with blue gx, infact it replaced my g513 carbon :)
Supposedly you can use it for switching between apps, might be useful if I can use it swap between second most recent apps or to a specific app if open.
@@Masterrunescapeer that's a good shout actually, I'll give it a shot 😊 it's mostly steam, Spotify or chrome I use 😂
This would be perfect for my HTPC room - small, wireless, lighting in the dark, touch bar for volume control even. That price though...
Had this since April, love it, just wish the software worked. Stopped working in August so I just cycle through colours with no customisation.
From what I can tell, if you want to replace the keycaps on this, the keys that look non-standard are the Backspace, Enter, and R-Shift. Some more expensive GMK sets _may_ have keys that fit, but your standard AliExpress/Amazon kit likely will not.
bro whos gonna put gmk caps on this shit
1:39 James put that sticker on so well that it could actually pass off as an ROG shirt
I’d buy this in a heartbeat if it had hotswap switches
I have an Ozone Tactical mini. Got it for like 50€ and it is very much the best keyboard I had in my life. It is very similar to this model (without the fancy Touch Bar). Bluetooth, VERY nice RGB (like the one in this ROG keyboard) and usb-c. If you want something this size but more affordable, I TOTALLY recommend it.
'It's about as thick as the tip' Timeless quote. XD
9:06 getting hosting tips from Jay I see...
I bought one of these a while back. Best off the shelf keyboard ever!
Personally have had this keyboard since launch and absolutely love it (Cherry Red). Touch Bar is actually really cool, when i want to use it.. If your accidentally hitting it to much or just don't use it, you can disable the touch bar and just have it for aesthetics/health bar like its shown in the video
this keyboard doesn't come with cherry mx red switches.
@@zume420 hmm lol. I rewatched the video because I started doubting myself. Around 1:00 James says that those switches are "not from Cherry". Then later in the video he makes a switch comparison. Those are ROG NX. What did I miss here?
@@serceband you missed where "who asked?"
@@serceband It doesn't but the previous version (non 'NX' - that is identical in all other ways as far as I can tell) does use Cherry switches.
9:31 , when you forget to bind your "R" bind back. "PFESS R TO PAY FESPECTS"
I really wish they had one that's the same width but with the function row, imo the smaller width is a lot more important than the height, guess I'll just be sticking with Chinese manufacturers that can actually make a good form factor.
I’ve had one of these for like 6 months and I highly recommend. Only thing is I wish it had a numpad. I can totally get by without it it’s just that when I set it in my lap it’s just barely wide enough to fit on my legs but sometimes it slips and falls between my legs. But that’s just because I’m a cheap ass without a proper desk. But otherwise it’s perfect. I have the brown keys and they are amazing
Great review. Would appreciate if you did typing speed tests on this even though it might be a personal thing (I assume the brown are the preferred switch for typing).
Just ordered one as I was really looking for small keyboard that still had volume controls, delete and insert keys.
I just recently got a mechanical keyboard in that size from Amazon for work, but it's too late to send it back now...
Darn it, this is better in every way, including the plastic cover _(I got a case for mine that is bigger than necessary and takes up loads of space in my backpack)._
But I really can't keep buying things I neither need nor can afford...
You can be excited for when you are gonna have to buy a new one and imagine what improvements they will have done in that time
you could try to sell the old one
How much did you pay of it to regret not being to swap it for one which costs more than 150bucks?
fyi, I highly recommend giving the stabilizers a lube, if you can lube the switches too do that as well
@@Daniel-dj7fh I paid 80€ for the keyboard and case, and 8€ for a set of o-rings for the benefit of my co-workers ears. I'd be paying about 170€ for the Falchion, but the higher quality, additional features, smaller transport footprint and better battery life make me feel like that would be worth it.
I have also thought about lube before, but I'm not _that_ much into keyboards so it hardly feels worth the effort of learning how to take apart switches in the first place; and of course I'd also want to lube my main keyboard, but that could be extra difficult because it has optical switches that might cause issues if lube gets in the wrong places.
@@justuslm Are your switches hotswappeable? You could consider getting silent switches ones and ditch the orings.
I like how most of the keys are standard. I write off most keyboards with nonstandard caps but the choice to only have some nonstandard is a solid compromise.
No its not, it really is not.
@@bismuth7730 You cant have a keyboard this size with out some compromise. You either ditch the keys altogether as some have done arguably that is the better choice. or you shrink that row.
I don't know if the Falchion came out before the Claymore II, but the Claymore 100% has Aura Sync compatibility.
Falchion came before Claymore II but it also fully supports wireless Aura Sync.
funny part is, falchion come with pbt keycaps while claymore II still use abs finishing and it keycaps doesn't support 3rd party keycaps. *smh
I almost bought that claymore II.
Imagine spending 200 bucks for a keyboard that looks like shit after 6 months of usage and you can replace the keycaps.
Looks ok but I will never give up my full size keyboard. I would miss numpad too much. I have the logitech g810 and I love it
Yes, but I've been on the fence about getting a separate numpad I can place to the right of the mouse, just couldn't handle not having function keys.
@@Masterrunescapeer yeah, but than what is the point of havino a tenkeyless keyboard if you buy a separate num pad and place it next to the keyboard lol. It defeats the purpose of having a 10keyless. In that case why not just get a full size KB?
@@Tkozuh ergonomics, it's position of arm and how you have to twist elbow.
@@Masterrunescapeer well i use my pc a lot, I always had full size keyboard and big and heavy mice. I am 35 and so far ever since i was 10 or 12 i qm using my pc like that and never had any problems cause i dont use "ergonomic" pheripherals
@@Tkozuh he said he'd place to the right of the mouse, not the left
Whoever wrote the copy for the product description: show me your fanfic!
Home, end, page up and down are so useful
"It's about as thick as the tip" - James 2021
0:33 or when in the hands of altean royalty, it allows the user to join smash
Very goog overlook! Thanks!
I have this keyboard for my travel use. It does come with Cherry MX switch options. I have the cherry brown. It's light weight and small easy to pack into suit case. Not a fan of ROG, but it's a good product.
Is no one going to mention the LTT Linus pillow creepin in the background? 😂
It would get soooo much value if only it was hotswap so you could easily lube and mod it
The volume control on the left side isnt a gimmick, but what I had noticed in mine (cherry reds) recently is when it gets low battery, it double registers an input (e.g. i press a once, it registers as aa, and wireless receiver is just around 1 ft away give or take), but good keyboard though
That doesn't sound okay at all that sounds like a major flaw.
Saucy. He was going to say that his novel is very saucy.
"Yeaah cool keyboard i'd have that"
*checks price*
"Yeaah cool I'll never have it."
I'm Running a kdb custom built board with browns and I can tell you that rog falchion is loud as hell. Obviously the body has like no sound insulation.
Now i have personalized ltt videos
That side feature is awesome 👌 wish we had more new features like those
Great keyboard. Wouldn't mind it being a bit larger for standard keys.
typing brrrrrr with that keyboard must be pretty fun.
I'd prefer the touch bar to be on a flip up panel at the top of the keyboard given the lack of a tactile feedback.
I've been using it for a few months and it is great. Costs a lot for a keyboard that size but for me at least it feels like its worth every penny. The touch slide is very good and the whole board feels sturdy and good quality.
Got the Falchion with reds for black friday and gotta say, it is solid! Feels like something that will last a loooong time.
just got one with the rog nx red switches and damn its nice
No specific purpose for this post, just wanted to give a quick shout out & thanks for great content, ShortCircuit. Cheers.
while watching this. i mas touching the side of my key board imagining how useful it is. I might just get one for scrolling left and right
I'm not even shopping for keyboard, but now I'm tempted...
I hate clicky, love tactile, was just okay with linear. But I absolutely fell in love with corsairs optical linears, and they have shorter distance than most. Evga has opticals that are a little shorter than corsair but I could never get evga software to work. That's when I returned it and got the corsair k100. It also has those sandblasted texture key caps. My fave keyboard so far. Somethings I'd like different but hey. I wish I could mix and max things from different boards and make my perfect one.
using one of these for the last couple months, big fan of it. I only use the side touchbar for volume control and that's about it really.
Wtf that travel cover/base is too cool
Well for a big brand name keyboard with their own designed switches (sounds quite good) and keycaps, complete wireless (4000mAh battery is huge) and wired options, seems like great RGB, looks like very functional capacitive side bar, and even comes with a unique cover, this seems like a win for that price. The stabs actually sounds okay (except for the blue one, it really does sound rattly).
Writing this on Falchion, in love with it.
For the Ultimate Minimalist? Where is Riley? ... James is fantastic though love seeing him in the videos. No diss to James but minimalism is Riley's whole thing haha
Bring me all the keyboard videos!
The falchion is used in the series of books, en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eragon, perhaps someone involved in the release of this product is of the age where they referenced it
When he was rubbing up and down on the sidebar 9:35 And said he touched a lot of these keyboard 10:00 that kinda scared me a little there.
If this makes it to sweden I'll buy one if I can make up my mind whether or not I can do without F-keys and home/end keys (doesn't bother me on my mac lol but you use them more on a pc I guess). This looks a lot better design wise than ROGs earlier keyboards, I'm a huge fan of the look of a lot of ROG products but the keyboards never looked very great.
I've been using a 60% for a good 6 months now and I must say not having the f-keys bother me less than not having dedicated arrows and numpad. But I also hardly use the f-row and navigation keys.
@@Daniel-dj7fh If you're a developer though, it is much nicer to have the function row not be behind a layer.
@@Daniel-dj7fh like Tams80 said, as a dev, I'd not be able to use the keyboard.
If doing anything web side, you need ctrl+f5, though you could argue most modern browsers finally support ctrl+shift+r, but a lot of my IDE shortcuts would then need to change to multi+combo mappings (which I dislike, e.g. Visual studio ctrl+k then ctrl+c to comment selection, easier to just have it be a single key and function. Alt+F10 is apply changes in rider, etc.).
I am considering getting a StreamDeck or equivalent for shortcuts, but that kind of defeats the purpose of getting rid of function keys in the first place.
Think basically outside of gaming, most people use some function keys.
Also, you'll pry my dedicated media control keys and volume slider on my keyboard from my cold dead hands, so much nicer not having to keycombo/have a dedicated spot.
I love the left side scroll display on the video, the steelseries Apex 5/7/Pro with the display are also super interesting, could live with double tapping multimedia button for skip track.
@@Daniel-dj7fh I've had a 60% for 4 months, and can now highly recommend a 65% board. Not having the arrow keys bothers me more than I thought it would. But love having so much room to swing my mouse around.
the cover alone is a very nice touch... might buy it
Me who just got the claymore 2 because it was asus's only wireless tkl but now this came out
$130 - $160 seems to be the regular pricing for quality mechanical keyboards though many of the $80 - $120 keyboards are almost as good if lacking in features (save for Razer as those things are devoid of any real features despite claiming to have on board memory).
Keychron, Ducky Mini One 2, and Anne Pro2 are pretty damn good 60% keyboards for around $100 and are configurable. I have yet to use the 2nd function layer on my Anne Pro 2 though but I can't really think of anything. I also switch between it and a normal keyboard so my muscle memory gets weird.
@@audiocorps2334 you're basically trading high performance wireless + software support for the cost difference
I recently got a $25 HP mechanical keyboard with rebranded outemu blue. I haven't tried any other higher priced keyboards. This is my first time getting a mechanical keyboard. Worth the money but now I regret getting the blues since I find them annoying.
@@amelodyoflove456 I'm guessing you're no longer in the return period? Outemu browns aren't too bad but are pretty rough feeling compared to the likes of Gateron, Kailh, Steelseries QX2 and, dare I say it, Cherry (they've been resting on their laurels and have somewhat fallen behind while still commanding a premium for their switches). Right now I'm switching between HyperX's Aqua switches in the Alloy Origin and the Glorious Pandas in my Glorious GMMK keyboard (it had Gateron browns but I swapped those out for the more tactile Pandas). I've had the Razer Huntsman with purple switches, Blackwidow Elite with Kailh/ Razer Orange switches, and a HyperX Alloy Elite with Cherry MX Browns (most of my mechanical keyboards had MX browns and then I realized how they're not as tactile as I'd like compared to others).
Just picked one up 2 weeks ago I love this thing!
I have the (i'm assuming original) Cherry MX Red version and after a few months of use I've gotta say that I'm super happy with the purchase. It cost 150USD which was high enough that I was worried about the investment, but after using it against my girlfriend's Razer Huntsman I'm convinced I made the right choice. Having that touch bar on the left is a game changer and the arrow keys are essential.
Finally! I can softly caress my keyboard and whisper sweet nothings to it.
ROG switches are probably just Asus rebranded slight modified Chinese switches you find on aliexpress.
not the first to support Aura Sync, ROG Claymore II does as well
love this keyboard, I wish they'll make a regular sized keyboard
"Good keyboards are expensive"
Good monitors... Are expensive... x.x
Having seen Apple's touch bar I don't know why people hate it. Function keys should be standard perhaps, but having context-specific shortcut keys like that, seemed honestly to be quite useful
The problem is that you have to look down to your keyboard to perform any Shortcut because there is no tactical feedback which is often slower then doing it in the ui
It wasn’t bad but often the shortcuts took longer than standard media keys on the F row. Adjusting the volume and controlling video playback took more pressed, in most use cases. But the flexibility is very useful.
Flexibility sacrifices the speed and ease of use for standard F rows.
@@franzksava2987 Ehhhh you get used to that stuff honestly.
Those are nice. I'll go 60-65% next I'm sure.
I paid $169CAD for an Apex 7 TKL. Worth it. lol
We **need** monkeytype test for us to actually get first impressions on how they are to type with.
I bought a Falchion and it just arrived today! I unboxed it like 10 minutes before watching this, what are the odds?! I already have a full sized keyboard at my desk but wanted one of these to use a keyboard in bed. lol or wherever I need to. I actually quite like it. It feels really nice!
man... I just want a rechargeable wireless keyboard full size that doesn't break the bank. Why are none of these full size?
Keychron k10
K10 or Rk100
Really hope they make a low profile version of this, even better if they can make the switches hot swappable.
keyboard keys go from blues as the early gaming keyboard favorite then it goes to reds and now browns.
I was sold. untill i saw it was 65% instead of 75%... Its nice of them to include the function lock, but its not a replacement for dedicated keys. I think the Keychron K2 still wins for me.
"Press R to pay Fespect" made me giggle more than I should've.
As for the Falchion, for exactly $100 more than the Logitech mechanical model I'm using, I don't know if it's worth it. I'm sure it would be more solid feeling, but is that worth $100?
That ROG logo on the shirt goes hard
Asus: for the true minimalist
LTT: give me three
Reminds me a lot of the small KeyChron keyboards, but I much prefer their more standard key layout - as a developer, I need that Home and End. I'd like the touch bar though...
make the touchbar taps for home/end :D
I really like this board. And it feels like a big middle finger to custom keeb community hipsters.