What these analytics idiots never mention is that missed shots lead to def.rebounds, which against the most teams in the league leads to fast breaks. So if 4 threes give you 12pts, and 6 2pointers give you 12 points also, shooting only 3s gives the opposing teams up to 20 fast break opportunities per 100 posessions. And long shots result in long rebounds, so it's easier to run a fast break if you're closer to the opponents basket when you grab a defensive rebound. When you add predictability that Isiah talked about, and that it takes more out of your legs when you shoot long jumpers,you get a perfectly reasonable explanation why the Rockets missed 27 straight 3s in game 7, and why it's ultimately easier to guard them in a best-of-7 series.
An even more impressive stat is that MJ scored 3,047 points and while only making 12 three-point shots. 2% of Jordan's points that season came from three point range compared to James Harden 2,818 points while making 378 three pointers which made up 40% of hardens points. To put that into perspective Harden Attempted 1,028 three pointers compared to Jordan's 62 three point attempts. That's insane to think that Jordan scored 229 more points that Harden while taking 966 less three pointers. MJ was a fucking monster on court in a big man era.
Or Melo. Except at least with Melo he has dignity in his game. Dont recall him flopping, or complaining to the media about the refs or anything like that.
This was a very disrespectful interview by both Max and Stephen A. Smith.... You don't have a great Hall of Fame player with all of those accomplishments and intelligence while asking him to analyze basketball... then you fight, argue, and debate him and don't allow him to speak but every little thing he points out with facts, you argue?.... These two (Max & Stephen A.) are inappropriate when it comes to respecting a guest of this status.
When Isiah Thomas talks whether I agree with him or not I listen. The basketball IQ that guy has is unsurpassed and he's a legend in the sport. Max Kellerman would have done himself well to just listen but hey it's a debate show so I can see why he felt like he had to respond.
@Assane Keita as a Rockets fan Curry is living in the Rockets head rent free... Warriors have defeated the Rockets in the playoffs in 4 of the last 5 years... 2015 WCF Finals Rockets should've won Games 1 and 2 but Harden choked... 2016 Rockets goofed by firing McHale... 2018 and 19 Rockets should've won both series but Harden choked...
cmoneyno5 You mean MDA not going deep into the bench playing faried, CP3 and Capela being no shows for the most part, and Gerald Green taking low iq shots and shooting more than Eric Gordon. Harden turned the ball over down the stretch, and missed free throws, but you can’t blame it all on him.
Judah i think me and you both know that Isaiah is to KNOWN to make a move😂😂😂ASK THE NEW YORK KNICKS STAFF... "ALLEGEDLY" ...I like the Eddie arkadian reference too😂😉the last 🐉...they have no idea who's the master😂😂😂😂
Man...if you've even played one game on the playground and have an ounce of common sense, it tells you, it's harder for the defense to worry about 5 scoring areas vs just 3. WOW...how much is Max Kellerman getting paid??
you so right. Everybody gets cold while they spend all their time watching him play slow ball. Then when the game gets close towards the end, nobody else can hit a shot when he finally makes a pass. And he usually only passes because he doesn't want to be responsible for missing the shot that could win the game.
11:26 I think Isiah Thomas even spoke about the 3 ways of scoring in today's NBA in an episode of Open Court and how the influence of video games is also ruining the basketball basics
@ around 15:00 ish let me pause to chime in real quick.. that style of play the nba is currently using is trickling down through the various levels.. there is no more nuance in Basketball games anymore.. people watch these summer leagues .. all they are doing is lil fast breaks, a flashy move, one pass for a dunk, lay up, or shot.. and people think its functional Basketball.. highschool players play under the whistle games like its one big john wall youtube highlight video.. get the rebound, go full court, one or two moves and a pass or a quick score.. they completely block out any other aspect of basketball.. shits hella sloppy and what not.
Judah bro, Isiah didn't beat Magic out brother, they both were all NBA 1st team from 1983-84 to 1985-86. It's like how we'll see LeBron & KD or Malone & Barkley both get all NBA 1st team. It can be 2 PGs just like 2 PFs. Actually Larry Bird an Bernard King was apart of 2 all NBA 1st teams with Magic & Isiah, Dominique Wilkins & Larry Bird was on the other. It would make sense to do it PG SG SF PF C but as long as it's 2 guards they can both be PG or SG it doesn't matter same with both forward positions.
The Rockets are basically running the Lebron James system. Its one guy dominating the ball and everyone else standing around. It's no ball movement and it can't win in the playoffs.
Danm I said the same.. erbody think they are three point shooters when they are not I sit and watch you pass up so many 15 to 18 foot jumpers, you hit 70% of those you win majority I think you win .
Yea they tell them don't take the mid range shot because they're not playing or preaching defense if you're going to defend then two's add up to a win but they don't so they throw up all these brick three's....people still haven't figured out that what steff and clay do that's so great is there three's create space for easy buckets because you have to go out to them
I hope you give your take on the whole Isaiah vs Jordan narrative that came up couple weeks ago. Me personally I think zeke gets a bad wrap but, he made his bed and side note they totally disrespected zeke on that top 74 list
Isaiah is talking to a brick wall Man if you had a Rip Hamilton to go along with James Harden the rockets would be deadly or Kyrie Kemba Kawhi Players that can score in the paint besides just Harden If Capella had game around the basket besides just getting a lob pass It would make everything easier And cause the defense to have play the whole court instead of just guarding the 3 point line
Max..why?.. paradoxical offense is what diantoni runs... lazy without structure, but yet more strain on concentration of the three point shot at peak levels..
What these analytics idiots never mention is that missed shots lead to def.rebounds, which against the most teams in the league leads to fast breaks. So if 4 threes give you 12pts, and 6 2pointers give you 12 points also, shooting only 3s gives the opposing teams up to 20 fast break opportunities per 100 posessions. And long shots result in long rebounds, so it's easier to run a fast break if you're closer to the opponents basket when you grab a defensive rebound. When you add predictability that Isiah talked about, and that it takes more out of your legs when you shoot long jumpers,you get a perfectly reasonable explanation why the Rockets missed 27 straight 3s in game 7, and why it's ultimately easier to guard them in a best-of-7 series.
Preach brotha
Robert Vujasić - exactly. Fundamental basketball.
Today teams don't care about controlling possessions.
Perfect. Well said
Portland took the 3 away from the Warriors and they beat Portland with layups and the midrange.
Exfreakingactly,
5 ways to score beats 3 ways to score almost every time
Chronicles said Isiah Thomas looking at Molly like he about to pour bbq sauce on her 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I’m dying
MJ averaged 37.1 in '87. He had a shit and I mean shit team. And that era was much tougher to score in.
And He Was 1st Team Alldefense
An even more impressive stat is that MJ scored 3,047 points and while only making 12 three-point shots. 2% of Jordan's points that season came from three point range compared to James Harden 2,818 points while making 378 three pointers which made up 40% of hardens points. To put that into perspective Harden Attempted 1,028 three pointers compared to Jordan's 62 three point attempts. That's insane to think that Jordan scored 229 more points that Harden while taking 966 less three pointers. MJ was a fucking monster on court in a big man era.
Harden is basically Gilbert Arenas part 2. A high volume inefficient scorer that will have an outlier game that masks what he really is.
Or Melo. Except at least with Melo he has dignity in his game. Dont recall him flopping, or complaining to the media about the refs or anything like that.
Arenas was pretty clutch though lol. Plus his game was way more exciting to watch than Hardens.
@@trowabarton321 to certain extent.
Arenas was better...
That the refs give 10 points a game too
This was a very disrespectful interview by both Max and Stephen A. Smith.... You don't have a great Hall of Fame player with all of those accomplishments and intelligence while asking him to analyze basketball... then you fight, argue, and debate him and don't allow him to speak but every little thing he points out with facts, you argue?.... These two (Max & Stephen A.) are inappropriate when it comes to respecting a guest of this status.
When Isiah Thomas talks whether I agree with him or not I listen. The basketball IQ that guy has is unsurpassed and he's a legend in the sport. Max Kellerman would have done himself well to just listen but hey it's a debate show so I can see why he felt like he had to respond.
27 missed 3s later, Max understood
They didn’t even play Fareed in the Play offs. They just kept throwing Capela’s sorry ass out there. I was so disappointed.
I have to agree with you for the most part the only thing Capela is consistent at is the Ally oop..
Fredrick Price he was non-existent in the play-offs. He was actually a detriment to the team.
@@nosuitsgiven Absolutely 💯
They had a deep roster if utilized correctly they had the pieces 2 defeat the Warriors. That lack of awareness killed them
Steph Curry owns the Cancun Rockets!
He was terrible this whole series he was good for one half in game 6
@Assane Keita as a Rockets fan Curry is living in the Rockets head rent free... Warriors have defeated the Rockets in the playoffs in 4 of the last 5 years... 2015 WCF Finals Rockets should've won Games 1 and 2 but Harden choked... 2016 Rockets goofed by firing McHale... 2018 and 19 Rockets should've won both series but Harden choked...
cmoneyno5 You mean MDA not going deep into the bench playing faried, CP3 and Capela being no shows for the most part, and Gerald Green taking low iq shots and shooting more than Eric Gordon. Harden turned the ball over down the stretch, and missed free throws, but you can’t blame it all on him.
It'z Blackace thank you. Dantoni always goes into panic mode when shit gets tight and drastically shortens his rotation.
Gerald Green plays basketball like a 3 year old that just discovered what basketball is....
Faried didn’t play in playoffs at all. Antoni is a terrible coach
Tony Trees Its a shame because the rockets got out rebounded in game 6.
This is the reason why Houston lost
He could have helped him if given the chance.
Still a head scratcher
Damn. Harden The Steve Buscemi basketball? That's a perfect analogy.
%100 and that was the funniest thing i heard all week
Nailed it!
Isiah does look at her like dammmmm I want to take it to the paint 🤣
She's looking at him like he's already have.
Bad Boy
Max simply does not know basketball or football enough to be part of this panel.
Nor boxing
That system isnt made to finish teams off...they may make the west finals but never win a championship
Judah i think me and you both know that Isaiah is to KNOWN to make a move😂😂😂ASK THE NEW YORK KNICKS STAFF... "ALLEGEDLY" ...I like the Eddie arkadian reference too😂😉the last 🐉...they have no idea who's the master😂😂😂😂
Isaiah got that minister Farrakhan smile. Lol.
😆
COJ's breakdown of IT's thoughts when Stephen A. mentions MJ is on point. The eyes never lie.....
Man...if you've even played one game on the playground and have an ounce of common sense, it tells you, it's harder for the defense to worry about 5 scoring areas vs just 3. WOW...how much is Max Kellerman getting paid??
Exactly. Max is a hack
Plain and simple, this is basketball
We all know a dude who plays like harden at the park😂
you so right. Everybody gets cold while they spend all their time watching him play slow ball. Then when the game gets close towards the end, nobody else can hit a shot when he finally makes a pass. And he usually only passes because he doesn't want to be responsible for missing the shot that could win the game.
11:26 I think Isiah Thomas even spoke about the 3 ways of scoring in today's NBA in an episode of Open Court and how the influence of video games is also ruining the basketball basics
Its pure basketball knowledge
@ around 15:00 ish let me pause to chime in real quick.. that style of play the nba is currently using is trickling down through the various levels.. there is no more nuance in Basketball games anymore.. people watch these summer leagues .. all they are doing is lil fast breaks, a flashy move, one pass for a dunk, lay up, or shot.. and people think its functional Basketball.. highschool players play under the whistle games like its one big john wall youtube highlight video.. get the rebound, go full court, one or two moves and a pass or a quick score.. they completely block out any other aspect of basketball.. shits hella sloppy and what not.
Draymond started reading that Harden 2 Capela alley oop quick
Does dantoni ever coach anybody up?? He literally went with the same horses all yr, all vets... I'm not sure the guy ever coaches anybody
Joe Runner he used to. He developed the 7 second or less system.
He use to make adjustments until after he left Phoenix...
On COJ binge right now
Isiah Thomas was the man
Gr8test PG ever n my eyes
7:49 And who are you. You must be Eddie Arcadian.😂😂.
Don't bug me fix your face, lol.
Max just couldn’t quit while he was behind 😂😂
He is annoying and needs replaced lol...
13:05 Isiah about to unleash the Chicago anger😂😂😂😂
Judah bro, Isiah didn't beat Magic out brother, they both were all NBA 1st team from 1983-84 to 1985-86. It's like how we'll see LeBron & KD or Malone & Barkley both get all NBA 1st team. It can be 2 PGs just like 2 PFs. Actually Larry Bird an Bernard King was apart of 2 all NBA 1st teams with Magic & Isiah, Dominique Wilkins & Larry Bird was on the other. It would make sense to do it PG SG SF PF C but as long as it's 2 guards they can both be PG or SG it doesn't matter same with both forward positions.
What happened 2 Judah?
@@dominiquejones3805he went to patreon
5:06 not only Magic Johnson but also John Stockton.
My guy is on fire with the subscribers
I wish I was calm like Isaiah Thomas during debates
Shit pisses me off
The Rockets are basically running the Lebron James system. Its one guy dominating the ball and everyone else standing around. It's no ball movement and it can't win in the playoffs.
Yeah! Lebron's teams always struggle in the playoffs!
So Maxine is the nerd and Isiah is the jock?
Max: thats Ol School
Zeke: Ahh Hell Naw
Me:THIS IS BASKETBALL
Think boys who focus on stats make this game boring and rigid. Fluid teams are better to watch
2021-2022 that rule change has put a lot on front street. GSW, Suns, Bulls and Hornets r my favorite teams 2 watch
Harden is unstoppable on offense........
2021-2022 rule change entered the chat
Havent seen molly look at someone this intensely since will cain
12:05 Max taking notes. That was note worthy though
They didn't, and they didn't
Danm I said the same.. erbody think they are three point shooters when they are not I sit and watch you pass up so many 15 to 18 foot jumpers, you hit 70% of those you win majority I think you win .
2:57 oh shit that destroyed me hahalol
13:00😂 Ahh Hell Nawl
Yea they tell them don't take the mid range shot because they're not playing or preaching defense if you're going to defend then two's add up to a win but they don't so they throw up all these brick three's....people still haven't figured out that what steff and clay do that's so great is there three's create space for easy buckets because you have to go out to them
Steve buscemi😂😂 10:01
He's bruceleeroy, wtf!
Isiah Thomas told no lies and If COJ told any lies let me know
13:06 Goddamn 😂😂😂
Roster was better but they needed 2 let CP3 run a real system
Max also said that the ref will bail you out which we all know wont happen in the finals
Depends on on who u r but they can only do so much
I hope you give your take on the whole Isaiah vs Jordan narrative that came up couple weeks ago. Me personally I think zeke gets a bad wrap but, he made his bed and side note they totally disrespected zeke on that top 74 list
Max. Just. Don’t. Talk... ...please.
2:00 yeah like the Knicks in 1993 how they thought they were gonna beat the Bulls and all that
Facts on that Chicago shit 😂 💯
The rockets are trash.
CP3 had the right idea
Great video
Isaiah is talking to a brick wall
Man if you had a Rip Hamilton to go along with James Harden the rockets would be deadly or Kyrie
Kemba
Kawhi
Players that can score in the paint besides just Harden
If Capella had game around the basket besides just getting a lob pass
It would make everything easier
And cause the defense to have play the whole court instead of just guarding the 3 point line
Max..why?.. paradoxical offense is what diantoni runs... lazy without structure, but yet more strain on concentration of the three point shot at peak levels..
I went to school with harden and I highly doubt he is a monarch asset but who knows🤷🏽♂️
Does Judah sti make content
You just start watching in 89 or 90 you still wet behind the ears you missed a lot of real physical Basketball
He's been watching basketball for 30 years but he's wet behind the ears ? please stfu.
Zeke is the gr8test PG
CP3 is overrated