@Seyone030 Colonizers? I am talking about people with Indonesian roots. There are many in Den Haag. Dated an Indo girl for 17 years (Mom grew up in Jakarta and Dad was an Indo-Chinese from Kalimantan). And, Maluku is part of Indonesia. Maybe they don't want to be part of it, but officially it is Indonesia.
Kita bangsa Indonesia tidak dapat melupakan sampai kapanpun tetapi kami juga bukan bangsa yang selalu terjebak pada dendam atau kebencian sehingga kamipun tanpa menunggu permohonan maaf Belanda sudah terlebih dahulu memaafkan. Itu masa lalu yang harus diambil hal positifnya untuk kedua bangsa Belanda maupun Indonesia. Supaya dalam menjalani kehidupan di masa akan datang kedua bangsa ini tetap selalu bersahabat.
In Indonesia, we don’t really think much about the Netherlands. We don’t speak the language, so we’re not connected to their pop culture or political news. Dutch food isn’t exactly a hit either, which is why Dutch restaurants are rare here-though we do enjoy their snacks like bitterballen and poffertjes. Ironically, you’re more likely to find German bars, restaurants, and bakeries here, even though Indonesia doesn’t share much history with Germany. That said, I’m glad Yohana was able to find tidbits about West Timor’s history under Dutch colonization at the museum, including the story about Timorese slaves owned by the Dutch. While the Netherlands still has a long way to go in reckoning with its colonial atrocities, one thing they’re good at is keeping detailed historical records. Unlike many former colonies, Indonesians don’t hold grudges. We’re welcoming to our former colonizers like the Dutch and the Japanese. In fact, we’ve recently had Dutch players of Indonesian descent getting naturalized to join our soccer teams. While it’s important to reflect on the past, both Indonesia and the Netherlands are now independent nations, and we need to continue working together as equals. Will you both be spending the holidays in Germany? It might be early, but I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! 🎄🎆
@@kilantravels Hi, nice to meet you. Thanks for all this information, it’s really interesting and glad that some Indonesian might enjoy German food even tho it’s not really the greatest cuisine. It’s especially interesting to hear from an Indonesian perspective. Do you have an idea of why Indonesians are reacting differently to their coloniser than other colonised countries? Is it in a more forgiving nature or does it has maybe some other reasons? Thanks for the wishes! We will spend the holidays in Germany before we prepare for our next trip back to Asia :) Wish you also an early merry Christmas and again thanks for this awesome input 🙏🏼
@ Yeah, well, German cuisine isn’t exactly Italian or French (both of which have tons of restaurants in Indonesia’s big cities) 😁 . But hey, you can’t go wrong with beer and hearty dishes like Schnitzel or Schweinebauchrolle (spelling?). Solid, satisfying stuff. Fun fact: it’s actually easier to find Indonesians who speak German than Dutch. There’s only one Erasmus Huis (the Dutch cultural center) in all of Indonesia, but we’ve got multiple Goethe-Instituts scattered across the country. German is even offered as an elective language in many schools, including in my backwater hometown in South Kalimantan, on the island of Borneo. The same can’t be said for Dutch, which is basically nonexistent. As for why Indonesians don’t hold a grudge against former colonizers like the Dutch or Japanese, I think it’s because we understand that the current generation isn’t responsible for what happened in the past. That said, I do think we should be louder about demanding accountability for historical wrongs. For example, Japan should issue a proper apology and reparations for the survivors of its comfort women program while they’re still alive. And as for the Netherlands? It’s about time they officially revise their history books to recognize 1945 as Indonesia’s Independence Day, not just offer half-hearted lip service like their king’s apology. It’s the bare minimum. Cheers! 🍻
@@kilantravels that’s super interesting!! Next time I’m in Indonesia I’ll go on a German food hunt ar least one time. Also the German language thing is amazing! I did met some Indonesians in Hamburg who speak quite good German. Thanks for the lesson and cheers to you too 🙏🏼
@@travel_peet Yes, you should go and do that for sure. You can definitely find good German restaurants and bars in Jakarta and Tangerang, and a few scattered in cities like Surabaya and Bandung. And, of course, Bali has plenty of them as well; no surprise there! Cheers! 🍻
it used to be called the 'tropical museum' but they changed it to the 'world museum' because the initial name was not fitting anymore with modern times, the dutch museums are working closely with Indonesian officials to find out what the dutch have stolen from Indonesia and the netherlands is giving it back, i think even that in this moment there is an expo in a museum in Indonesia with all the returned artifacts! in the netherlands 'indo' means a person from mixed relationships between indigenous Indonesians and europeans, we have our own culture and food and even a creole language called 'petjoh' with european influences and Indonesian influences, unfortunately petjoh is a dying language and not spoken by many anymore.. great video thank youu!!
The real question. Is how dutch is indonesia. And how hipocrit is indonesia. We al know most of indonesia never was a colonie. We also know maluku and papua never became free and got colonised by indonesia.
Indonesia was never colonized except for Maluku and New Guinea? What kind of revisionist, apologist nonsense have you been reading? The Dutch East Indies government took control of almost all of what is now Indonesia and left devastation in their wake. Everywhere they went, they faced resistance from locals who refused to submit-and they responded with brutal force to crush that defiance. I’m from Borneo, where our leaders were beheaded by the barbaric Dutch during the Banjar War from 1859 to 1863. That’s our history, and no amount of your whitewashed narrative will erase it. Do not dare try to diminish or deny the suffering and resistance of Indonesians under colonial rule. If you really believe the Dutch were “kind colonizers,” why do you think they waged countless wars-like the Java War, the Aceh War, and the Bali expeditions-to violently suppress and conquer this archipelago? And let me remind you: the girl in this video is from Timor, an island where many were enslaved by the Dutch. That museum she visited displayed this horrific truth for everyone to see. Maybe you should visit it yourself to learn some actual history instead of clinging to this romanticized version of colonialism. Or better yet, educate yourself, stop being a historical denier, and quit acting like a racist prick.
Yeh, Amsterdam has a lot of Indonesian restaurants! Love them!
Den haag had je moeten zijn. Daar woonden de meeste mensen die uit Nederlands-Indië kwamen.
Oh really? That’s interesting! Will put it on the bucket list
Some call Den Haag 'the widow of Indonesia'!
@ oh dam we should have gone there
@Seyone030 Colonizers? I am talking about people with Indonesian roots. There are many in Den Haag. Dated an Indo girl for 17 years (Mom grew up in Jakarta and Dad was an Indo-Chinese from Kalimantan). And, Maluku is part of Indonesia. Maybe they don't want to be part of it, but officially it is Indonesia.
Yaa den haag ❤
Kita bangsa Indonesia tidak dapat melupakan sampai kapanpun tetapi kami juga bukan bangsa yang selalu terjebak pada dendam atau kebencian sehingga kamipun tanpa menunggu permohonan maaf Belanda sudah terlebih dahulu memaafkan. Itu masa lalu yang harus diambil hal positifnya untuk kedua bangsa Belanda maupun Indonesia. Supaya dalam menjalani kehidupan di masa akan datang kedua bangsa ini tetap selalu bersahabat.
En daarom er veel indonesiers hier of zijn getrouwd met een bule belanda.Waarom gaat die verkoopster van de toko niet gauw terug naar indonesie
Suka banget hal hal yg mengenai indo-belanda ❤
In Indonesia, we don’t really think much about the Netherlands. We don’t speak the language, so we’re not connected to their pop culture or political news. Dutch food isn’t exactly a hit either, which is why Dutch restaurants are rare here-though we do enjoy their snacks like bitterballen and poffertjes. Ironically, you’re more likely to find German bars, restaurants, and bakeries here, even though Indonesia doesn’t share much history with Germany.
That said, I’m glad Yohana was able to find tidbits about West Timor’s history under Dutch colonization at the museum, including the story about Timorese slaves owned by the Dutch. While the Netherlands still has a long way to go in reckoning with its colonial atrocities, one thing they’re good at is keeping detailed historical records.
Unlike many former colonies, Indonesians don’t hold grudges. We’re welcoming to our former colonizers like the Dutch and the Japanese. In fact, we’ve recently had Dutch players of Indonesian descent getting naturalized to join our soccer teams. While it’s important to reflect on the past, both Indonesia and the Netherlands are now independent nations, and we need to continue working together as equals.
Will you both be spending the holidays in Germany? It might be early, but I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! 🎄🎆
@@kilantravels Hi, nice to meet you. Thanks for all this information, it’s really interesting and glad that some Indonesian might enjoy German food even tho it’s not really the greatest cuisine.
It’s especially interesting to hear from an Indonesian perspective. Do you have an idea of why Indonesians are reacting differently to their coloniser than other colonised countries? Is it in a more forgiving nature or does it has maybe some other reasons?
Thanks for the wishes! We will spend the holidays in Germany before we prepare for our next trip back to Asia :)
Wish you also an early merry Christmas and again thanks for this awesome input 🙏🏼
@ Yeah, well, German cuisine isn’t exactly Italian or French (both of which have tons of restaurants in Indonesia’s big cities) 😁 . But hey, you can’t go wrong with beer and hearty dishes like Schnitzel or Schweinebauchrolle (spelling?). Solid, satisfying stuff.
Fun fact: it’s actually easier to find Indonesians who speak German than Dutch. There’s only one Erasmus Huis (the Dutch cultural center) in all of Indonesia, but we’ve got multiple Goethe-Instituts scattered across the country. German is even offered as an elective language in many schools, including in my backwater hometown in South Kalimantan, on the island of Borneo. The same can’t be said for Dutch, which is basically nonexistent.
As for why Indonesians don’t hold a grudge against former colonizers like the Dutch or Japanese, I think it’s because we understand that the current generation isn’t responsible for what happened in the past. That said, I do think we should be louder about demanding accountability for historical wrongs. For example, Japan should issue a proper apology and reparations for the survivors of its comfort women program while they’re still alive. And as for the Netherlands? It’s about time they officially revise their history books to recognize 1945 as Indonesia’s Independence Day, not just offer half-hearted lip service like their king’s apology. It’s the bare minimum.
Cheers! 🍻
@@kilantravels that’s super interesting!! Next time I’m in Indonesia I’ll go on a German food hunt ar least one time. Also the German language thing is amazing! I did met some Indonesians in Hamburg who speak quite good German.
Thanks for the lesson and cheers to you too 🙏🏼
@@travel_peet Yes, you should go and do that for sure. You can definitely find good German restaurants and bars in Jakarta and Tangerang, and a few scattered in cities like Surabaya and Bandung. And, of course, Bali has plenty of them as well; no surprise there! Cheers! 🍻
ᴋᴇʀᴇɴ 🇮🇩👍,
Project striker for Indonesia is coming 💪
Den Haag is the city for Indonesian en Indo-European descents
it used to be called the 'tropical museum' but they changed it to the 'world museum' because the initial name was not fitting anymore with modern times, the dutch museums are working closely with Indonesian officials to find out what the dutch have stolen from Indonesia and the netherlands is giving it back, i think even that in this moment there is an expo in a museum in Indonesia with all the returned artifacts!
in the netherlands 'indo' means a person from mixed relationships between indigenous Indonesians and europeans, we have our own culture and food and even a creole language called 'petjoh' with european influences and Indonesian influences, unfortunately petjoh is a dying language and not spoken by many anymore.. great video thank youu!!
Wow thanks for that comment! Super insightful and interesting!
If you want to find Indonesia in the Netherlands, go to the Hague! NOT Amsterdam...
Noted 👌
The real question. Is how dutch is indonesia. And how hipocrit is indonesia. We al know most of indonesia never was a colonie. We also know maluku and papua never became free and got colonised by indonesia.
Indonesia was never colonized except for Maluku and New Guinea? What kind of revisionist, apologist nonsense have you been reading? The Dutch East Indies government took control of almost all of what is now Indonesia and left devastation in their wake. Everywhere they went, they faced resistance from locals who refused to submit-and they responded with brutal force to crush that defiance.
I’m from Borneo, where our leaders were beheaded by the barbaric Dutch during the Banjar War from 1859 to 1863. That’s our history, and no amount of your whitewashed narrative will erase it. Do not dare try to diminish or deny the suffering and resistance of Indonesians under colonial rule. If you really believe the Dutch were “kind colonizers,” why do you think they waged countless wars-like the Java War, the Aceh War, and the Bali expeditions-to violently suppress and conquer this archipelago?
And let me remind you: the girl in this video is from Timor, an island where many were enslaved by the Dutch. That museum she visited displayed this horrific truth for everyone to see. Maybe you should visit it yourself to learn some actual history instead of clinging to this romanticized version of colonialism. Or better yet, educate yourself, stop being a historical denier, and quit acting like a racist prick.
Go to Maluku and tell people in Maluku they wan indepent from Indonesia or not..no one RMS in Maluku..RMS only in Nederland
@@Pakun-q1v rms are bunch of retard
Speak for yourself
@@trivendiaz5071 its not a question of speak for yourself. These are facts.