Is this the Gibson Les Paul Custom Killer? The Burny RLC60
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1981 Burny RLC60
2009 Gibson Les Paul Custom
That Burny's bridge pickup... killed Gibson, honestly.Sings
Sometimes our minds just play tricks on us. If both had covers on the names, I’d bet you’d pick the Burny :) Considering the Burny in 2023 is $3,000 less than a Gibson custom, it’s a no brainer. Burny everytime.
Yes the stigma was --- Hey that's a copy is all rubbish
Looking @ Burny/ Greco natural top cream\ natural either
Bang for your buck collecting Gibson customs is no longer a thing 4me
I might swap the pickups out on either of those when I find one we'll see 👍
I own both as well, and i agree, the is something special about the real deal. The question is if its because it costs so much more that we dont want the burny to be as good? Would we really feel the quality difference if we blind tested two simular guitars? 🧐😂
Yeh fair point. I think a lot of the quality of the Burny comes down to the year it was produced, the Japanese market wanted a USA Custom but couldn't afford it, so Burny really had to step it up and they did but as you say, that extra USA quality does take it up a couple notches
It’s just a logo that people like
Good on Burny. I sold all my G's. No need for that risk at our pub gigs
I just got a Burny with the Floyd Rose and Sustainer pickup, I absolutely love this guitar weight is killer, quality and finish 10 and action is super low I jelled with it immediately I am hooked and just purchased another one next will be an Orville and Greco maybe even a Grass Roots
I have the 2011 Chinese-factory-made Burny SBEB-65 bass made of mahogany solid body w/ a maple neck. Gibson only offers an all mahogany SG bass, but I'm a big fan of maple necks. I think in the 70's you could actually get the "real" LP guitar w/ maple neck, note sure the wood for yours?).
Had a mid 80s Burny with a veneer top. I put a set of Duncan Antiquities in it and it destroyed all of my Gibsons except my 2012 gold top standard. I'd say it was dead even with that one. Looking forward to purchasing another this year.
That's what I'm thinking drop in some Duncan distortions or something DiMarzio SD's
It might be the daily driver I hate Gibson's spotty quality and outrageous rip-off price factory and Street the spike we have It's bullshit
@lfader For sure. I guess it depends what tone you are going for. I also LOVE the Seymour Duncan Whole Lotta Humbuckers. By far my favorite all around set.
@@williamdesmarais4931 absolutely I had preloaded in two different Les Paul's I bought Duncan antiquities and Lollers Imperial High Winds
On both I'm thinking I'll pull them Then turns out once I actually play them they're like the gates of heaven opening sound wise not high in resistance you could push them and they could get you such a great tone It was eye opening bet whole lot of humbuckers are probably the same .....
I've been able to tweak so many different pickups into what I'm going for more of a high gain but a clean sustain no bees in a jar or drop d drone Not my thang
The prices on Burny and Greco's here in the States are bumped considerable from the UK that's typical bend over bullshit but it's still a good deal 👍
@lfader One thing I will say about the Whole Lottas is that the pick dynamics are ridiculous. Clean to distortion just by regulating pick attack. Even with solid state amps.
Is there a way to date the burny's...I have one it has the diamond head stock just like a gibson..3 pick ups..
The RLCs I’ve played have been consistent. I also had a 3 pickup Burny SG custom from the same era. They have a nice mid fat neck, very manageable size which I prefer to most of the Gibson LPC necks, stock pickups are as good or better than Gibson R and T series (in my opinion). My RLC is also all Mahogony, which I also prefer. I think it’s a myth that all mahogany means darker, I think they can sound livelier. All Mahogany is also only available on the even more expensive R4 and R7 Customs, so there’s that as well. The Burnys come with an ABR bridge which looks better than the Nashville bridge. The only draw backs se it’s not nitro, no ebony board or real pearl inlays
That pretty much sums it up. Thanks for that comprison.
Thanks 👌
Next up, I've got an Ebony LP Standard and I'm gonna put it side by side with the Custom, looking forward to it
@@guitarscouts9548 I'm curious how that turns out because I have my own idea how they each sound.
Gibson should be better based on price, but as you say get a burny if one happens to come up and it'll be worth it.
Agreed Shaun
pickups differs..ohms,metal slug..some japanese pickups they use nickel/cobalt for the slugs..screw slugs is different metal,and the flat pole slugs are also different..for me its not the workmanship of the wood itself to make the tone as its best..sounds always comes out from the pickups😁
Nice vid honest take 👍
I have some Burny LCs, including both maple and mahogany topped models. The Burny has a nice bite that makes up a bit for the extra bite of the Gibson's ebony fretboard. It makes me wonder if your Burny might be a mahogany top model. Have you checked it?
My 86 Burny RLC-60 have a mahogany top and it´s brighter/tighter than my 80 FLG-90 wich is maple capped.
I have 3 Burnys LPC and I have to say they are all better quality and playing than any Gibson I have ever played for a fraction of the cost MIJ are the best although the China ones are not bad either but I have to say the only Gibson I want and will get is a gold top with P 90s
Wow man these are some awesome guitars you have here I love it.😃👍❤️🔥⚡️🎶🎸
You can find some Burny's with the Fernandes sustainer pickup which is pretty sweet.
Also adding that new burnys are NOT the same as the MIJ models, these are made in China and are not built to the same standard of the Japanese replicas.
The new ones are more on par with a Chinese epiphone and have a different logo.
Best burnys are between 1977-1985
Someones is asking me to trade my les paul 60s tribute p90 for their 1978 burny les Paul custom? Would that be fair
@@MusicPerson233 Try it first, I've tried some burny feels and sounds better than gibson.
Early 90s Japanese burnys are as good as the late 70's . They really had their act together. I have both and play my 92 more .
In saying that they don't come close to my crews maniac guitars.
Actually, the Burny rlc 115 is still made in Japan... Don't know how it compares to the older 80s and 90s MIJ Burnys, but they do still make some of them in Japan. It's the rlc 55 that's made in China. Issue is, the 115 and 55 look identical, so I'd be really worried is someone tries to pass the Chinese one off as the MIJ one. The good thing about the 80s and 90s rlc is that they are differentiated by the split diamond inlay and the lightening bolt inlay, and have different truss rod covers from the newer ones, so you know you're at least getting a MIJ guitar.
I have a 72 black lp custom, and there are 2 burny lps for sale near me maybe I'll check them out, thanks
I have a 78’ Burny FLG-70, changed to Dimarzio 36th Anni P.A.Fs, orange drops, cts 500k pots and Gibson tulip tuners.
Thick articulate LP goodness.
Awesome guitar.
A pickup and pot change goes ALONG way in these guitars!
Your RLC-60 sounds exactly like Randy Rhoads LP on the track ‘no bone movies’
Whats the origin of this guitar,.. mij? Or mic?
You overlooked a few things there, making this either a somewhat pointless comparison, or by accident a very appropriate one: To sum that up first, even a Gibson LPC is not exactly a Gibson LPC, and your RLC-60 isn't an RLC-60.
Full story: First off, what you have there is an LC-70RR (RR=Randy Rhoads), not an RLC-60 (which were available only in the vintage LPC colors). Why does that matter? Quite simple: The RLC-60 is a meticulously replicated 1958-60 LPC (the catalog says "60s model"), to be precise they are replicas of the insanely rare 2-PU versions of the LPC occasionally made post-1957. These RLCs are meant to hit the quite specific specs of these late 50s original LPCs to the i-dot, 17° headstock angle (no volute) , mahagony cap on 2-pc mahagony body... the only differences obviously being the rosewood fretboard and the neck tenon (which would be "long" only by today's Gibson standards) on the Burny.
Apart from some super-expensive custom shop models I'm not familiar with, Gibson failed to meet these original specs on their regular LPCs since they reissued them in 1968...until today. Hence people claim that the Burnys are the closest thing to a vintage LPC (which is both true and kind of nonsense). Therefore, if you want to compare a Burny RLC to a Gibby LPC, you'd need to dig up a '58-'60 Gibson, because your Black Beauty LPC has a maple cap, an unknown number of body pieces, 14° headstock angle on a 3-pc neck etc., so actually a few more differences to the original specs than the Burny.
That being said, your LC-70RR is for the most part a cosmetically changed RLC, because the actual Randy Rhoads guitar was allegedly a 1972 LPC (even though the first model year of the cream white LPC was AFAIK 1974) and your LC-70RR lacks the volute and likely has inherited the bigger RLC headstock angle, little is known about the inner construction of the LC-70RR though. I guess they didn't want to make new jigs for the LC-70 model and copy what they deemed inferior design anyway. And of course, the difference in feel may or may not have to do with different specs and materials, or it's just the usual difference between guitars, you know one specimen rocks the hell out of you while the exact same other example in the shop is a dud. But by all means, the late 70s to 1986 Burnys are as much of a Les Paul as anything Gibson did since 1968, which is remarkable mostly because they were the result of a merciless competition between the Japanese guitar companies, with Fernandes undercutting the others by offering 100,000+ JPY specs in a 60,000JPY guitar.
Great guitars,string gauges you used bro?
10s on the Gibson and 9s on the Burny. I'm sending the Gibbo in tomo for some 9s too!
@@guitarscouts9548 I'm using 11-48,and half-step down tuning, on my burny lespaul bro,is this advisable?
@@dagoldigol That works!
@@guitarscouts9548 Hm, so different string gauges and one is top-wrapped and the other is not. They might sound even more alike if they were both top-wrapped and both 9s at the time you recorded this.
I like that the appointments are all nickel not gold on the Burny.
Burny vs Edwards.
u played crazy train without playing crazy train
I disagree my burnys blow away any Gibson i have played🤷🏼♂️ its the name Gibson that people like
Is the pride of Gibson Les Paul Custom ownership worth the extra $3000? And that's all it is... pride, then the answer is hell no.
Both sound crap, or maybe its that awful distorted sound.
I'm sorry to say, yes Japan is killing America at making quality guitars. Thats what happens when you don't take pride in your work. Good luck Gibson, you guys screwed up! Spent to much time on bragging and getting drunk. Now you have to lower your prices and step up your quality or you will be out of the game.😊 plus I've owned a Fernandez Les Paul. It was way better than any Gibson guitar by leaps and bounds.😮
Burny is way better then the Gibson in my opinion. I know you won’t comment cause it’s against your views 😂 burny rocks