Visited his tomb many times,the metal work is amazing.I wonder if the bones are still there.I think canterbury should open it up along with henry IV tomb.
Edward Vickers. And they can also open the grave of your mother? Why not? Ah, because it is sacred to you? WHY do you want to see the bones of the Black Prince?
@@edwardvickers5506. What would you do if they open the grave of your mother? You have no respect for human remains, but if its your mummy then its a different story, eh?
@@Foxglove963 700 years has passed I really wouldnt be bothered if they opened mine or my mothers grave after that amount of time but we aren't and wont be as significantly important as the black prince in regards to history. I'm sure you dont find it disrespectful when you see the millions of people visiting king tuts body.
@@1222-u5r You are unable to explain what is to be gained by opening the Black Prince's grave. What has pharao Tut got to do with it? There is nothing to be gained by opening the grave of the Unknown Soldier. Reinstall respect. Disrespect is what barbarians do.
Extremely interesting. Was this 'CAP' used for ceremonial reasons as I assume? Is there a final report about your finding? Your video clips are very interesting for me because I studied Edward for some time, but there is always something new to learn. Is there any longer documentation what you are doing over there?
Klaus S It is Ceremonial, originally the inner lining of a crown, and used to be symbolic of aristocracy or royalty. One is carried before The Queen at the State Opening of Parliament.
One is carried before the Queen when she opens parliament every year. Only Kings wear a cap. A Queen Regnant wears a Diadem instead. At the coronation ceremony a King wears the cap prior to the anointing after which it is carried.
@@mscott3918 I don't understand how it could be the underlying for a crown. There's a large animal depicted on the top. Is that the crown? Why are there gaping holes in the mouth area of the animal? What is missing? I guess I just don't understand it. Perhaps watching this without any knowledge of the Black Prince might be why I don't understand it. It's quite a marvelous piece of history. It must have been very commanding when it was in it's pristine original shape.
@@pamelahicks517 I know this is kind of late but it is theorized that the first use for a cap of maintenance was to wear under a crown, more or less like a padding to make it more comfortable. The example seen here was not for that purpose, it was worn as the crest for the prince's tournament helm, hence it's size and the fact that there isn't really a place for a crown to go. As for what was originally inside the mouth of the lion I'm not entirely sure but I think it is likely that it was simply made to look like the inside of a mouth but the pieces have either been lost or rotted away over the centuries it was left hanging above his tomb. They have made a reconstruction of an extremely similar cap and tourny helm that was hung above Henry V's tomb that you can see if you look up the video "Henry V's jousting helm reproduced, Part 1 - Capwell & Easton" from scholagladiatoria if you are interested in how it might have looked originally.
Thank you. It's been a great opportunity to hear the thoughts and ideas of a wide range of specialists. Did you see the films on the Black Prince's effigy and the one on his shield?
Yes I have. I watch every video you all upload. I'm surprised this channel isn't more popular. It's a beautiful building and I've had a fascination with it ever since I read Canterbury tales in high school. Greetings from the US
It's interessant, beautiful and wonderfull. In my country have'nt these relics and the governants, past and present , are stupids! A day I would know the England and the Black Prince, Always read About him!
I like to think you could pull on the tail, and perhaps the dog barked or it's tongue came out....or something. I've never seen this in the UK, but some German designs of this type, the tail was meant to be manipulated, sometimes it would even make a head shake.
It's not a dog. It's a heraldic leopard. That cap was worn over the Prince's Great Helm in tournaments and became part of his funerary achievements displayed over his guilt copper effigy My guess is that, if you ever thought to pull on Edward's tail. there would have been consequence. Still would be.
Royal Advisor: "Sire, this Cap of Maintenance is purely ceremonial, it's not necessary that..." Me: "Screw you! I'm wearing the giant cat-dog hat! Get out me way!"
so is this a hat? on someone's head? did anyone actually wear it, if it is? it looks odd and difficult to wear so maybe not.. purely ornamental? made after the prince's death? wonder when that was? ..seems like an important person..
it was made for his funeral. If you search up 'black prince funeral achievements' you will see it is the cap that sat on top of his battle great helm. the lion is a symbol of english kings and I assume it would have identified him in battle, not that he would have necessarily worn it in battle. I assume that the helmet is still underneath but is wrapped in that white sheet for protection.
@@davidevans3227 I am no expert but I was very into medieval history and making medevial artifacts in my youth. I also grew up in Canterbury so must have visited his tomb more than one hundred times. Was just incredible to look up and see real artifacts made in the 14C. the copies were also fantastic, made by the royal armouries in the 60s or 70s I believe.
If you're going to make a video try to make it with some purpose and some attention to the people who are trying to watch it. What I'm getting from all these videos is a lot of mumbling Mumble Mumble mumble and not a lot of content or where it's going or why. So try to get over yourself and redo it. Take the sound off. And do some kind of coherent understandable presentation
Canterbury Cathedral does not receive any money from the Government and we are a self sufficient organisation, unlike many of the museums and galleries in London, but thank you for taking the time to watch our video and comment.
Never paid taxes in dollars in my life only in pounds sterling as I am British not American. just where is this person coming from. Seems to be a sad sod to me.
Very , very interesting, indeed. More videos like this one is what Internet needs...
Visited his tomb many times,the metal work is amazing.I wonder if the bones are still there.I think canterbury should open it up along with henry IV tomb.
Edward Vickers. And they can also open the grave of your mother? Why not? Ah, because it is sacred to you? WHY do you want to see the bones of the Black Prince?
@@Foxglove963 what difference does it make,the Black Prince is long dead,his bones might tell a story just like king Tuts mummy!
@@edwardvickers5506. What would you do if they open the grave of your mother? You have no respect for human remains, but if its your mummy then its a different story, eh?
@@Foxglove963 700 years has passed I really wouldnt be bothered if they opened mine or my mothers grave after that amount of time but we aren't and wont be as significantly important as the black prince in regards to history. I'm sure you dont find it disrespectful when you see the millions of people visiting king tuts body.
@@1222-u5r You are unable to explain what is to be gained by opening the Black Prince's grave. What has pharao Tut got to do with it? There is nothing to be gained by opening the grave of the Unknown Soldier. Reinstall respect. Disrespect is what barbarians do.
Is there any video after the reconstruction?
When do we get to see the black prince’s remains?
Glad I lived in Kent. Born in London.
Amazing artifact
Thank you. We hope to share even more over the coming months.
Amazing stuff!
Extremely interesting. Was this 'CAP' used for ceremonial reasons as I assume? Is there a final report about your finding?
Your video clips are very interesting for me because I studied Edward for some time, but there is always something new to learn. Is there any longer documentation what you are doing over there?
Klaus S It is Ceremonial, originally the inner lining of a crown, and used to be symbolic of aristocracy or royalty. One is carried before The Queen at the State Opening of Parliament.
One is carried before the Queen when she opens parliament every year. Only Kings wear a cap. A Queen Regnant wears a Diadem instead. At the coronation ceremony a King wears the cap prior to the anointing after which it is carried.
@@mscott3918 Fascinating, thanks from Florida!
It's a WHAT now? A Cap of Maintenance?
Mine is a decrepit old Cubs cap with oil stains.
Mickey Bitsko They were originally the inner lining of a crown, and were used as a symbol of nobility or royalty.
@@mscott3918 I don't understand how it could be the underlying for a crown. There's a large animal depicted on the top. Is that the crown? Why are there gaping holes in the mouth area of the animal? What is missing? I guess I just don't understand it. Perhaps watching this without any knowledge of the Black Prince might be why I don't understand it. It's quite a marvelous piece of history. It must have been very commanding when it was in it's pristine original shape.
@@pamelahicks517 I know this is kind of late but it is theorized that the first use for a cap of maintenance was to wear under a crown, more or less like a padding to make it more comfortable. The example seen here was not for that purpose, it was worn as the crest for the prince's tournament helm, hence it's size and the fact that there isn't really a place for a crown to go. As for what was originally inside the mouth of the lion I'm not entirely sure but I think it is likely that it was simply made to look like the inside of a mouth but the pieces have either been lost or rotted away over the centuries it was left hanging above his tomb. They have made a reconstruction of an extremely similar cap and tourny helm that was hung above Henry V's tomb that you can see if you look up the video "Henry V's jousting helm reproduced, Part 1 - Capwell & Easton" from scholagladiatoria if you are interested in how it might have looked originally.
@@awilk418 Thank you for that very interesting and insightful explanation. Hope you're having a good day. Stay well!!!
Yes, explaining what such an item this is would've been most helpful to the Yanks. I,too, was confused about the animal.
Amazing 👍
I can't hear what being said because the misic interfeares with the words.
VERY SPECIAL...😊❤
So interesting!
Thank you. It's been a great opportunity to hear the thoughts and ideas of a wide range of specialists. Did you see the films on the Black Prince's effigy and the one on his shield?
Yes I have. I watch every video you all upload. I'm surprised this channel isn't more popular. It's a beautiful building and I've had a fascination with it ever since I read Canterbury tales in high school. Greetings from the US
You're very kind. Thank you.
It's interessant, beautiful and wonderfull.
In my country have'nt these relics and the governants, past and present , are stupids!
A day I would know the England and the Black Prince, Always read About him!
I like to think you could pull on the tail, and perhaps the dog barked or it's tongue came out....or something. I've never seen this in the UK, but some German designs of this type, the tail was meant to be manipulated, sometimes it would even make a head shake.
It's not a dog. It's a heraldic leopard. That cap was worn over the Prince's Great Helm in tournaments and became part of his funerary achievements displayed over his guilt copper effigy
My guess is that, if you ever thought to pull on Edward's tail. there would have been consequence. Still would be.
Wow.
Well ,there is a log at the beach called the" log of inappropriateness " . With this hat we could fix all that.
there is / was a church-grad school tomas abecket.
not far from here!!!
Pimpin pimpin
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So what is it? A hat?
Sooooo... this guy walked around with a giant animal sculpture on his head?!?
Royal Advisor: "Sire, this Cap of Maintenance is purely ceremonial, it's not necessary that..."
Me: "Screw you! I'm wearing the giant cat-dog hat! Get out me way!"
Why was it allowed to get into this state? If they restore it, it won’t be original
its not doing bad for being hung in a church for 650 years
so is this a hat? on someone's head? did anyone actually wear it, if it is? it looks odd and difficult to wear so maybe not.. purely ornamental? made after the prince's death? wonder when that was? ..seems like an important person..
not the easiest of things to see
it was made for his funeral. If you search up 'black prince funeral achievements' you will see it is the cap that sat on top of his battle great helm. the lion is a symbol of english kings and I assume it would have identified him in battle, not that he would have necessarily worn it in battle. I assume that the helmet is still underneath but is wrapped in that white sheet for protection.
@@conradperrot9046 thankyou 🙂
it is lovely to get a response..
@@davidevans3227 I am no expert but I was very into medieval history and making medevial artifacts in my youth. I also grew up in Canterbury so must have visited his tomb more than one hundred times. Was just incredible to look up and see real artifacts made in the 14C. the copies were also fantastic, made by the royal armouries in the 60s or 70s I believe.
If you're going to make a video try to make it with some purpose and some attention to the people who are trying to watch it. What I'm getting from all these videos is a lot of mumbling Mumble Mumble mumble and not a lot of content or where it's going or why. So try to get over yourself and redo it. Take the sound off. And do some kind of coherent understandable presentation
Your tax dollar at work. Well, maybe not work!
Canterbury Cathedral does not receive any money from the Government and we are a self sufficient organisation, unlike many of the museums and galleries in London, but thank you for taking the time to watch our video and comment.
What an incredibly stupid comment.
And in any case, not your money I would say.
Never paid taxes in dollars in my life only in pounds sterling as I am British not American. just where is this person coming from. Seems to be a sad sod to me.
carbidegrd1 Oh stfu.