In the last ten years the quality of news and sports reporting has completely deteriorated. Men and women. I use my mute button more than any other on my remote. Gladly ade. I love to hear from you. Truth and integrity are so hard to find today. I can’t name 5 more like you. We are in a sad time.
Good point. There are enough TH-cam channels doing watch alongs that you really don’t need to hear the original audio except a little for crowd noise. I like listening to Quita, Mick, or Ben Daniel. They are very different but all provide a different perspective on the game. Quita does a great job. I’m sure Adrienne does too if she does play by play or color commentary during games.
@@ericMT No offense to Adrienne in any way, but Quita has a knack for play by play. She is ON IT! But Adrienne's live games are more fun to watch. One knock I have with Quita and Ben is they both repeat alot.
@@Mellowyellow3 That's a fair point. I can give that a pass though because content creators are mostly regular people , each with their own favorites. The good thing is with so many creators is there are more choices for us on who we choose to follow.
As a woman, I much prefer a commentator that has played the sport they are commentating on. I love hearing Steph White, Carolyn Peck & Chiney commentating on Women’s B Ball. Football I prefer ex Athletes as I feel they have 1st hand experience & do a great job on breaking down plays and have a better insight. But if a Qualified woman can do this well, I’m all for it. I can’t speak on the men’s opinions.
(56M UK) You are clearly very knowledgeable about Basketball. I started watching you earlier in the season when looking for good WNBA analysis. I've never considered your gender in connection with your ability to cover the content. keep up the good work Adrienne.
to have a woman commentator, color or just, i have no problem. What puts me off is when a woman is put in place just to fill a demographic AND is obviously out of place. Football for instance. i used to watch the NFL all the time and i have yet to see a woman commentator that didn't irritate me. the worst is when this woman is put in place as eye candy. that is the dumbest reason i have ever seen.
They dont know what they are talking about most of the time. Ask pre written questions & even ask questions that have been aswered by the player in his previous answer. You can tell they all have pre written questions & dont have a clue whats going on. Comments like. "Whats it like being in a great team". "How good is it to play with your team mates". "How did it feel coming back from that". Its like watching a bunch of Democrates at a press conference. All they do is talk shit.
I am a 67 year old female. I like men talking men's sports and women talking women's sports. My husband feels the same. Admittedly, we are literally old school. 😂
Do not allow a negative response to cast a cloud over your day. You opinion is YOUR OPINION and in this Country you are absolutely entitled to have and to air that opinion. If someone else does not understand or respect that right, it is not your problem to correct.
I think football is a different animal than basketball. You speak with authentic authority because you played and were a basketball coach. When anyone speaks without that type of authority in any sport there is a lack of authenticity.
I have no bias regarding men vs women commentating for sports. I am a man. What I do have a bias against is idiots who don’t belong calling sports. I watched Iowa vs Penn St, and an announcer there was terrible. Got names wrong all night long. Also used phrases incorrectly and relied on them over and over even though they didn’t apply well. I thought it was a lady, but others said it was a man. I didn’t care either way. All I cared about was the fact I was ready to chew on tin foil by halftime, just to take my mind off that terrible commentator.
Nah doesn’t matter just know your stuff. It’s odd that people can be so bothered because if the same exact words a women commentator says was changed to a man’s voice, they wouldnt have a problem? Mhm weird.
I’ve only become interested in the WNBA in the last few months since all the hubbub surrounding Caitlin Clark but in seeking insight into all the controversy about CC, as well as the WNBA, NBA, and basketball in general, I have found you to be not just knowledgeable but by far the most insightful person into the nuances of events that most people never even notice. And as far as the male/female thing goes, I could not care less. Knowledge of the subject matter is the prime requisite. I believe you have the most informative show on this subject. Keep up the excellent work.
One notable difference is that Miss Adrienne has carved out her own space here. If folks don't like what she has to say, they can move on with one click. ESPN or whatever network is not imposing her upon us during broadcasts. And keep in mind that male sports fans hate on male broadcasters too, especially analysts who won't shut up during games.
What I resist as a man, really as a sports fan first, is someone, male or female, who starts spouting off on the sidelines or in the announcing booth and it’s apparent that they have no clue what they’re really talking about. Real sports fans, male and female, can see through the talking heads with the blow dry hair and tons of make up immediately. They are a waste of time when I can be focusing on what is really happening on the field. I don’t need somebody telling me what is happening when I can watch it myself.
Women sports commentators would be ok if theyd find their own voice. The problem is that they try to sound just like the men. And that doesn't work. Its clownish when a woman tries to sound like Chris Collinsworth
Some of the best commentary I’ve ever heard was Lynx’s Lindsay Whelan calling a high school state championship. She explained the plays - really increased my knowledge. Some of the worst has been men commenting on gymnastics and figure skating. And have you heard Tom Brady’s horrorshow?
I love your analysis as it’s obvious your knowledge of women’s basketball both as a player and a coach. As a 70+ woman who played basketball in my young life. What I have noticed over the years with increased number of channels that the quality of sports reporters has decreased greatly. It’s as if they have a list of 10 dumb questions that keep being repeated and don’t add anything. The days of good commentary and in-depth analysis is gone, so I appreciate you. For me, it does not matter male, female, or what sport they give analysis, just the competence of analysis.
Adrienne I follow a bunch of TH-camrs on women’s basketball. Each person in media has a “personality.” Which attracts different people. I like you because you are kind, well spoken, good intentioned and knowledgeable. I like Robin Lundberg for a lot of the same reasons. You can tell he has a journalist approach. I like Mick Talk Hoops because he’s OCD basketball and has a lot of knowledge of the sport in both men’s and women’s globally. His livelihood is TH-camr so just have to accept there’s a percentage of empty content videos but he’s fun most of the time. Then there’s Quita the basketball encyclopedia for women’s ball. She is just great and good natured. Then there’s the dark horse I watch in Ben Daniel… he’s a little over the top for me but I’m a direct no BS person and can’t stand victim mentality especially when those people are being the troublemakers, as has been the case for CC as we all know. So with the balance of all these YT personalities I can handle and appreciate Ben getting in the boxing ring and always going for the knock outs. With that you have to accept some of the overboard. In summary you do you. Everyone knows of all those channels and you have the most followers for a reason.
What does this have to do with religion? Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Catholic, Buddhist, Lutheran, Methodist, 7 day Adventist, Mormon, Jehovah's Witness or many other respected religions I'm sure I regrettably left out. Besides the John 3:16 sign, that has been prevalent since I was a kid. I don't get it. My bad
Personally, I don't like to listen to commentators give their analysis on a game I just watched with my own eyes. Especially during halftime. I would rather watch the halftime entertainment that is never shown on tv broadcasts.
The only example I can think of is Laura Sanko in the UFC. She now commentates and is excellent at it. She has fought professionally, still trains in the sport, and works hard and studies to know what she is talking about. I think that is the biggest issue, that if someone is speaking as an expert, they need to be experienced in the field. And yes, as a side note, she is absolutely beautiful and seems to be a great person. Personally, I don't care, as long as they know what they are talking about and know how to say what they want to say well.
For me its more most female commentators/reporters in say NFL are on the field. And to be honest those interviews stopping the coach before/halftime/after the game are usually the dumbest questions. "What do you need to do to win this game? (give me an in depth answer for the 20 seconds I stopped you doing your job)". 100% of the answers, "We just need stop them and score our own points." Oh you mean the point of the game. Insightful!
Most men who are bothered by a woman having the effrontery to be knowledgeable about and comment on a sport are very unlikely to watch a woman’s TH-cam sports channel. One second of seeing a woman’s face on screen and they’re gone. So, your audience is made up of people who just want to hear intelligent commentary and don’t care about someone’s personal characteristics . As far as football, I’d much rather hear a knowledgeable woman than some of the absurdly uninformative stuff I’ve heard from certain men.
I don't care about the gender. It's the knowledge that the commentators have, plus the tone of their voice that can affect the whole commentary, certain tones are captivating, what I don't like are four or five commentators talking about something I have just watched with my own eyes, and getting paid millions talking about something that the live commentator has talked about for the last half hour, why repeat it all again, give me some advertising so I can run to the fridge for beer, or have time to relieve myself, so in other words, there's too much commentary, when I was young, we had one commentator at the game, and one in the sports studio, now you have at least one on each side of the playing field, and ten in the studio, it's ridiculous, gender only plays a part when the ladies are interviewing the players, the players keep there commentaries clean, because they know mama is watching, but as I said before knowledge is everything, male or female, but please, two commentators per game, it's more than enough. 😊
If you’re a professional commentator you are expected to know your stuff. I do find it weird that you see women commenting on men playing any sport, especially football. It makes me think of the boy scouts vs the Girl Scouts. Girls know just as much as boys do in for example camping, but want the girls talking to the girls and boys talking to the boys. It’s a guy or girl thing based upon who is playing.
I was watching a men's basketball game then they when to the halftime panel and it was all Women. You can tell only one of the women played the sport seriously while the other were posers who over used jargon to make it look like they knew what they were doing. It's a problem when they were hired because they have a journalist degree and did some sports in college riding the bench.
Men who are opposed to female commentators, probably won't watch this channel. However, I always had a problem with Joy Taylor. I never understood why she was on Fox. She added nothing. Mostly she interrupted the men and said foolish things. To me, she was only there for female representation. She lorded over the men, talked down to them, and they weren't allowed to push back. Now, we know how she got her job.
I am turned off by women commentators because of my dislike of women like Monica McNutt. Molly Qerim, Draya Carter....It may not be fair to let this color my feelings towards other women, but I have less confidence in their opinions. When so many of these women were touting Angel Reese over Caitlin Clark they lost all their credibility. I lost all respect for them when I saw how easily they changed their opinions when they were confronted.
When I was much younger. I admit I was. I've come around. However, there are a few women which I cannot take seriously .Molly from ESPN , her opinions are ridiculous.
"Where sports and culture connect" or "sports is a microcosm of what's going on in the culture", this may have been the beginning of the blurring of the roles of men and women. Just a thought...
This is a great discussion. I'm going to go with the "knowledge theory," because I don't think men and women don't want to hear women commentate on men's sports as long as she has knowledge of the sport. What I do think is what people don't want to hear is people like Joy Taylor, Mina Kimes, Molly Cuerim, and a few others commentate on sports, because they're, most of the time, just sharing their opinions about the sport. For example, when the Indiana Fever's coach Stephanie White commentates on the NBA, I haven't heard anyone say she shouldn't be talking for "men's sports." Why? Because she has knowledge of the game of basketball, right? I've heard women commentate on MLB, NBA, and the NFL and do great jobs, but then you do have the "eye-candy," women who lack knowledge of the game and are only there for their physical appearance. Great discussion.
If the person is knowledgeable about the game their sex should not be an issue. Many women are very smart when it comes to football (Caitlin Clark vs the Kelce bros). Even though they haven't played the game, they've been around it all their lives because of their dads and brothers.
(56M) I'm glad to see people like me that are all about the "league/sport knowledge".. However, if the question is "do most men think" then that is different. In my experience most men would think "what does she know, she probably didnt grow up living and breathing the league/sport). so stereotypically thinking that the "girls grew up with dolls not sport", which is obviously stupid, we are not living in the 1950's... PS. i'm from the UK anfd started watching American sports later in life and yet i know a lot about it.. So it doesnt matter "what you grew up doing either" you can become knowledgeable in sport with hard work, whoever you are....
I have to agree with most of what was said.. I have absolutely no problem with women commentators on most sports, specifically women’s sports obvs. BUT with football? My initial impulse is to listen to them more critically than I would a man. BUT once they prove they know their stuff, I’m 100% on board! I think everyone is just so sick of the DEI nonsense that whenever we see something like a woman in what is normally a “man’s job”, I automatically assume they probably didn’t fully earn the job and jump through the same hoops the men had to do to get there
wouldn't it be wonderful if competence was the main point...knowledgeability of the sport in question and the ability to do good commentary, neither of which are gender/sex/whatever dependent.
Again AR! Education, Experience, Kindness, Insight, Confidence, and Respect that you were obviously raised with my Friend. If you would be gracious enough to let me call you.Thank You! I've said before, Please do not ever, ever, quit what you're doing! Many Blessings to you and the wonderful community you have created!
This is kind of funny to me. Never thought about the fact you are a woman. I found this channel because I was looking for legitimate information on Caitlin Clark and the Fever and so much of what I see is just rubbish, especially on CC. I like how you bring the straight scoop and you have some really good insights as to the WNBA. I love your 'takes!'
Yes to me it does matter what sport the commentary is about. While i don't take a woman's opinion on football seriously. Interviews are an exception. That being said I prefer women's sports casters when it's women's sporting events. Of course this very much simplifies the conversation.
For me, it’s a lot about voice and personality - of either gender. That being said, I have to admit I HAVE had a bias against female sports commentators in certain sports - even though I, myself, am a woman. But I think it’s more because I find it annoying when they put someone in such a position JUST because they fit a particular demographic (gender, age, ethnicity,…) the league or network is trying to appeal to. It feels like an affront. Can we all just agree that you shouldn’t be paid to commentate on a sport that you couldn’t coach at a biddy league level? (P.S. I love your 🏀 commentary and what you teach me about the game.)
It's a very difficult question. The right person (male or female) for that kind of job must possess a very specific set of characteristics. A woman could do a great job if she had the right vocabulary to create the right vivid picture in the spectator's (a man's) head and match that picture to some stats. The wrong words will irritate her audience. The wrong tone (squawking or shrilling) will bother her audience. The wrong fashion (too sexy) will annoy her listeners. A good example from the UFC is Laura Sanko. The Chief Bro, Dana White, heard one of her interviews and loved the quality of her questions and knowledge of the sport. The interviewees respected her thoughtfulness. She is pretty, but everyone knows that she is a married woman, so her work is just business, no flirting stuff.
Never been a fan of women on the sidelines for men's sports. It just gives off DEI vibes to me. Especially with all the hair, makeup and high heels. On the field or court it screams eye candy to me. There has always been one exception, though. Robin Roberts, until the kinder, gentler Robin Roberts showed up. OG Robin would show up in a sweat suit and tennis shoes, and gave off an athlete vibe. Now its all about the "fits". Please!
I love Rebecca Lobo or Stephanie White as commentators. They have to know what they are talking about. Also, and this goes for the men too: they talk WAY too much in NCAA and WNBA games. Note how on almost every CC highlight, they are talking about some other random thing like they are bored and don’t really care about the game. It isn’t necessary. There’s enough down time in basketball that they don’t need to talk during all the action. But what do I know?
For the most part, I don’t care if it’s a man or a woman, if the commentators know the game and have a good personality. I watch a lot of ncaa softball- I love Beth Mowins and all the women that call the games. I hate when they bring a man in lol I’ve yet to hear a man call a good softball game. I watch a lot of football and was surprised how much I enjoyed Romo calling the games. He was not a favorite player of mine
I think part of it is about maintaining somethings that are just for men honestly. Good or bad here is one example, If ladies are in a Red Hat club, do they really want men to join or attend? I think men want some things for themselves and there is a feeling like that is becoming non existent. I think men are in general fine with women having a lot of opportunities that weren't always available to them. But there is a feeling that there is no end to it. As it relates to commentating there is probably an element of wondering, as a woman, do you want to do it because you love sports or is it because women should be able to do anything? I think they mean if Women are playing then women should be commentators. So you would have women covering Wnba and men in Nba.
I could care less what gender they are. Their knowledge of the sport and personality. Dream team is Rebecca Lobo & Ryan Rucco. I’m a new women’s basketball fan last year and there are few men in this space that are knowledgeable imo. All the external reporting by men that never followed women’s bball in past and going for clicks just sound stupid because they don’t know any players or teams.
I don't have a problem with women doing play-by-play or doing color commentating. Two of my faves are Jessica Mendoza for ESPN Baseball and Stephanie White for ESPN and the Big Ten Network. In fact, I'm a little saddened that we won't be hearing Stephanie White broadcasting anytime in the near future. Just wondering if network could've approached it differently. Football is a sport played almost entirely by men yet they had three women as commentators in the example you showed. While I'm very familiar with Holly Rowe, I'm unfamiliar with the other two. If the network was gonna roll out women, they should've been widely known/respected by the football community.
love your show on both channels. I always look forward to your show and I never considered that you're a woman and therefore not qualified. It is a matter of knowledge, education, and insight. Would a person not go to a female dentist, doctor, or surgeon purely because they are a woman? I think not.
I do t think for most people it matters. But 17% of men caring sounds about right. I’d suspect that’s roughly the same % of insecure sexist men. Just sayin
If women stick to womens sports and are knowledgeable....ok. But i think in general women dont color commentate as well as men. I mean if a woman replaced Al Michaels for the Miracle on Ice, it wouldnt have been the same.
I think it's just a football thing. I come to your channel along with ben Daniel and one or two other for all my wnba stuff and I consider your info as credible and insightful as any other channel.
As for other channels giving 'shout-outs' I generally don't see that is giving anyone proper credit, I see it as trying to share subscribers. I hope you do crack down on those using your content. I can't say I have seen any that I can recall, but sources need to be credited.
One point I must hit upon that I did not in my other comments is that the issue is NOT and NEVER has been if a woman is expert or not. A woman being knowledgeable is GOOD - but thst is NOT why most men reject women in men's sports. There are MANY men who speak on the NFL or NBA who never played the sport. Bob Costas never played. Mike Tirico never did. Neither did Chris Russo or Jay Glazer. It's about all the EXTRA stuff thst always comes up - 1. Men begin to at and speak differently when even 1 woman joins. 2. The women begin to push their feminist agenda and even lecture men. 3. The women begin dressing provocatively. In the SAME WAY that women do not want men to invade their female spaces, most men see men's sports as a male domain and therefore do not want to see women calling games on men's sports or host shows discussing men's sports. I am reposting parts of my comments just in case YT deletes my comment again
@@TheAdrienneRossShow YT is removing comments a lot now a days. I usually never notice it except when I respond to a comment and someone is responding to me and then I look for my previous comment that they were responding to but it is no longer there. It may also be that some comments get removed if it gets reported or gets a certain number of down votes> I am not sure what the parameters are.
It also depend on the expertise of the hosts (aka; commentators.) Two related examples: 1. The Bird & Taurasi Show (when they covered the Iowa versus South Carolina at the final four game 2023), the hosts spend majority of the game time talking about everything else but the game itself. (Experts at the subject but not the presentation.) 2. Monica McNutt, who only played basketball at the college level but because her journalism degree, became an analyst for ESPN at the professional level. (Expert at the presentation but not necessary the subject.) Have a nice day and always enjoy your shows!
I'm from Cincinnati! For the Reds. One of, if not the greatest radio broadcaster of all time, Marty Brennaman. "Enshrined in the broadcasters' wing of the National Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, NY, on July 23, 2000. He was the annual recipient of the Ford C. Frick Award, presented annually since 1978. Except for 1978, when two recipients were named, each subsequent year there has been one winner. Never played baseball! Please people, Grow Up! I finna go School House Rock. Once again, Knowledge is Power!
I want knowledge. I think Shaq is a great sports commentator - on men's basketball. If I'm looking at a women's game, I would prefer Rebecca Lobo. She's knowledgeable and has played on the women's side. She's been in those locker rooms. She knows the players and the plays. I do not need women commentating on football. That being said, I do not listen to Stephen A Smith at all. The fact that he is a man does not commend him. I can do without Skip Bayless, too. In a larger sense, feminism is being questioned. A lot of women commentators are eye candy/DEI hires. There are a lot of women in their jobs because an exec decided that the show needed some eye candy to juice ratings (or other reasons, see Taylor, Joy). I think men are, on average, more interested in sports than women. As for you, Adrienne, I like your faith-based point of view, as well as your knowledge of basketball.
You don’t get the pushback because people have to go out of their way to watch your TH-cam channel. It’s not like you are on ESPN or broadcasted on sports bars across the country. Sometimes you can have excellent TV/moderators that do a great job covering despite never playing the sport at a competitive level. Ernie Johnson for NBA TNT comes to mind. Only played baseball in college but is an excellent moderator in between Barkley, smith, and Shaq.
1- most of your viewership came from the WNBA coverage, so your audience is already self-selected to like women's sports and enjoy your take. Perhaps they like you opinion because you are a woman or it doesn't matter to them. 2- when it comes to color commentary (like the iconic Madden) most viewers do want someone with real life experience in the pros. We want this inside scoop. 3- Play-by-play and analysis is a skill you can learn. I will compare it to coaching, because there is concrete evidence. Coaches without experience in the sport or at the level they are coaching can be successful. They have learned how to analyze and come up with a way to respond. They also can explain it in a way that gets the other coaches and team to agree. Joe Gibbs, played football in HS, in the 1950's, yet was a great coach in the NFL. His playing experience was probably so different than the NFL when he coached, its fair to say it was almost a whole different game. 4- my opinion: People who are sexist use football to defend their position because there aren't many women who played in college, so it's easier to just say they don't know the game. It's much harder to criticize a specific woman who did play the sport and is a good commentator, because you are personally insulting that woman. 5- I am a female mechanic engineer (graduated in 1988) and the handyperson in my family. My experience- people don't come right out and say because I am a woman, I can't know enough. But they ignore me. We recently had a contractor at home, to look at a problem that was not straightforward. I was the one who asked and answered questions, but he only looked at my husband. Obviously, we did not hire that guy. I won't say this was a "microaggression" because it was flagrant. My husband however had not noticed! To his defense, he was focused on the contractor's plan and the cost. When the next contractor came in, hubby immediately redirected him to talk with me. It is progress that people don't feel comfortable directly saying you are incompetent because you are a woman. But, not acknowledging you as a source of information they are presenting is an indicator that they don't want to declare that you, a woman who didn't play in the W knows here stuff.
I would say people don't want to hear women discus sports unless it is a sport they have played at some point, or if they are the rare lifelong fan of the sport that knows the rules and much of the history of the sport. They really don't care that much about a look pretty telepromter reader
Yeah I’d say American Football is the only thing that might bother me because they never played. But some women have a deep knowledge of football and can do a great job. Depends on the person I guess.
18:30 Ms Ross no one complains about you talking basketball because I at least come for women’s basketball commentary and also you’re good at it. I listen to guys talk women’s basketball mostly.With women’s basketball if I want a female perspective on the sport I go to a female channel because it’s a different perspective of that sport. MEN AND WOMEN ARE DIFFERENT. We’ll see the same thing differently at times. And that’s great we learn something. I prefer to listen to a guy talk about basketball because the sport is a male sport. If it were a female thing then I would listen to a female because they understand it in that way. For example, a lot of guys complain about women missing layups in basketball. We know why they miss but for a woman they might take offense to it. Already the exact some sport is being judged differently. Thus the analysis of the game is different. Do you get where I’m going with this? Men can understand men because we’re men so we can hold each other to a higher standard and will be brutally honest. When it comes to women there will be a limit on that standard for obvious reasons (biology). I’ll bring Caitlin Clark into this. Caitlin caught my attention because she brings male attributes to the women’s game. She plays fearless, shoots from the logo consistently, she has the bravado that a guy who knows they’re the best has. And she wins achieving impossible things(natty appearance two straight years). She’s a star. I love that.
Holly Rowe is good at covering Oklahoma Sooners Women's Softball, Women's College Basketball etc. Rebecca Lobo is another woman that does a good job covering women's basketball. Adrienne Ross I enjoy your commentary on the WNBA and when I share your videos in our Caitlin Clark Fan Group I give you cedit for the videos. I think you would make a good commentator covering the WNBA in the booth or a good sideline reporter.
This topic is really very hard to dissect. Personally, I listen to different commentators and content creators, and I tend to listen to the value of what they're saying,,,,they may be men or women, I don't really care that much. What's important to me is the content, then the delivery. If I like it, then I usually look at their other videos. But i'm pretty sure that a lot of viewers are more interested in who is the one hosting the show. These people are so biased and cannot be swayed any which way. So, even if a female sportscaster is very knowledgeable in the sport she's reporting on, these bigoted and misogynistic people are not going to like her.
If you have women referring NFL games who are very knowledgeable of the sport, why not have female commentary on football? There's only been one time a female called a NFL game if my memory is correct.
The nonsense CAME when the women came. Facts. Look at the NBA. The league has ALOT of issues but I remember in the late 90s and early 2000s when the league, to avoid lawsuits, began integrst8ng the executive offices of the NBA.... and all these issues came up as a result to where now the NBA is a dying sport.
Here is my messed up bias.Depends on the sport and yes i would rather listen to a man that doesn't know what he is talking about than a women. Football is a hard no. Here in the land of the woke (Canada) we have women commentating on hockey at first i was all WTF but the ladies they have chosen for hockey know there stuff due to being olympic medalists in hockey It no longer bothers me at all.
What a question. So many small details matter. If I just had to answer square yes/no. I'd say yes. Depending on the sport, is a bit of a cheat, so ill ignore that for now. The reason I say yes, is not because 'we' don't like women, or don't value the opinion of one that is knowledgeable. It's because of the women that we are presented, by the media. But let me disclaimer myself, as the grumpy curmudgeon that is annoyed by most commentators, men included. Some are annoying because they try to 'fit the mold'. I think this is similar to the way the WNBA started with their 'physicality' nonsense. They did not want to be perceived as powder puffs, so they doubled down on the wrong thing. Some are annoying because they are 'trying too hard.' Some are annoying because their voice is just not good for radio/tv. As a Colt fan, we typically get the CBS d team of Dedes and Archuleta, who are not good. But once or twice a year we get Beth Mowins and the game feels 4 hours long and all I want is Dedes to return. Then you have the ones that don't belong, and are only around because they are eye candy, DEI, and politics. Those that aren't swayed by that criteria, are annoyed. But, I don't think it's across the board. Some do well, you do well. I have attended a few of your live basketball shows. Never once did I think, she's just not qualified, or yikes her voice could curdle milk. You aren't trying to be someone you're not, not pushing an agenda... It's pretty simple I think, we just have very bad options. Maybe that's the same reason why so many of the men are not so good either.
Basil spitting facts and knowledge tonight. I agree, it depends on the person and what they know and how they observe the game. WNBA commentary varies wildly depending on basketball knowledge. They also tend to dumb everything down for TV because they know most of their viewers are idiots. Not us of course. Just most average casuals that are half paying attention and don’t really know the game anyway.
Sex of the commentator doesn’t really matter. The best commentators are former players of the sport they are working. The best are the ones that truly do an objective analysis of the contest they are commentating. To be honest, there are very few really good commentators in sports today. I think the best are a mixture of men and women. To be clear, the best never talk about political issues or strong opinions they hold. An objective view of the competitors and interesting insights from experts make commentators great!!!
As far as listening to you, it has to do with expertise. When you were explaining various basketball techniques, plays, and shooting techniques, I was completely captivated. Why? Because it was very clear you knew what you were talking about. Why was it clear? Because you could fluently explain subtleties and fine points about what you were discussing, like when you were explaining how to set a pick, and you showed how the Fever players were using poor technique, and when you talked about shooting technique and explained details about arm position, or when you were explaining how Aliyah Boston was turning the wrong way in the pick and roll drills. For me, if the commentator knows what they are talking about, I am fine with it, man or woman. Women commentating on football, a sport that women do not play, often suffer from the lack of direct experience in knowing the subtleties and finer points that only come from experience at a high level. In general, I don't enjoy women broadcasting football and baseball for that reason. Some women commentators are very knowledgeable about strategy in the sport, like Mina Kimes in football, but not having played or coached, she still has no direct knowledge of the actual "feel" of playing. So, sports like tennis, gymnastics, track and field, basketball, or any sport where the commentator has experiential expertise and knows how to communicate it, I am fine watching, and hopefully learning somerhing.
This may be multi-post comment because this subject is something I think about often.. Let me start from the back. I have ZERO problems with you speaking about basketball. In fact, I subbed to this channel after your second video on Caitlin Clark - and then you blew up. When it comes to ALL sports, there are only 4 people thst I am subscribed to and 3 of them are in the WNBA space and the other is an NBA TH-cam. You and Quita are the main people I listen to. There is another guy in the WNVA arena that I sub to and he DOES mention your name. - but he doesn't give credit to ANYONE who started talking WBB within the past 2 years. He at least mentions your name and DeMita. But he will not mention anyone else by name. Outside of that one guy who is negative, I've been hearing people mention you both from WBB TH-cam and also those who speak on cultural topics but they mentioned you when weighing in on the Angel Reese and Charleston White controversy. They say they watch you and enjoy your videos. Now - to the question at hand, I will respond in followup post
PART 2 I am subscribed to gou and QLS because I want to hear you two talk women's basketball. But where do I stand on women speaking on men's sports? In general, I am against it. Why? Not because a woman couldn't do well. There are many capable women. The ISSUE is thst sports was always the LAST frontier of MALE SPACES. Sports has ALWAYS been the place that men go to decompress from the stresses from work AND from home. Sports is a place also a place where men can be MEN with all of our uncouth and uncultured traits without fear of women trying to civilize and TONE POLICE us. Sports also has been an important vehicle for strengthening male relationships - father and son relationships, friendships, coworkers, etc. The MOMENT a woman is introduced, it begins to collapse. NOTICE, for example what is happening with Nightcap right now. Because women do not understand the male code of behavior, when women join male sports as commentators, or announcers three things tend to happen 1. Men neuter themselves and don't speak or behave freely like they usually would 2. Women sexualize themselves - like Joy Taylor 3. The women push their feminist agenda and try to LECTURE men. See MALIKA ANDREWS and JEMELLE HILL Having said all of that - there were a FEW women that I DID accept even though I would have preferred all men on these sports shows..... Robin Robert's I loved and Hannah Storm also. I liked Jackie MacMullan as well. And I loved Michelle Tafoya, Lisa Salters, and ESPECIALLY Pam Oliver as sideline reporters. Women calling men's games or coaching men I will never accept. That's the main reason why I stopped watching the NBA. But I have come to accept women as sideline reporters. Theoretically I can accept women on the shows - however, the TWO women I DID accept - Joy Taylor and Rachel Nichols - have scandals surrounding them. I will stop here.
@ This is good stuff. You clearly know what you're talking about and can name names, which tells me you have taken in a lot more of this than I have. I appreciate your perspective. This is why I wanted to ask the question--because I know people like you would give me perspectives I cannot possibly have by only thinking my own thoughts and not inviting others to share theirs. Thank you!
@ You are very welcome. Two things I wanted to highlight before I close: 1. I left out a word when I said "I have to accept" women as sideline reports. I meant to write "I have COME to accept" women as sideline reporters. In other words, It doesn't bother me anymore. Yes, I miss people like Ahmad Rashad, Lynn Swann and Craig Saiger as sideline reports. However, women like Lisa Salters, Michelle Tafoya, and Pam Oliver did such an EXCELLENT job with how PROFESSIONAL they were, that I have no issues with women in those positions at all. I DO have an issue with women being in male locker rooms, however. That is just inappropriate. And this goes to my second point. 2. Another reason why I accept women as sideline reporters is because they do not dress provocatively, nor do they lean in on the stereotype that all men do is think below the belt. Society is being torn apart from the seams in part due to the influence of the CORN industry (change the C to a P). For the men who may be waging a Hurculean battle against lust, a lot of these shows are NOT helping men at all. Women like Molly Qerim and especially Joy Taylor are using men's weaknesses against them - all to gain a profit. Now, it IS true that men MUST gain control in this arena. However, despite what Cain wants to think, we are ALL our brother's keeper. In general, women are weaker than men. Men have an overwhelming physical advantage over women. The man of integrity and honor will NEVER use a woman's weaknesses against her. In like manner, I believe that a woman of integrity and honor will NEVER use a man's weaknesses against him. ABIGAIL is perhaps the BEST example that I can use - when you look at I Samuel 25. King David clearly had issues of lust AND he was in great wrath at that moment. Abigail did not use her body to calm him down but instead, she used her womanly influence and her WORDS to help him to reconsider his desired action. Women have two advantages over men - their looks and their verbal abilities. Abigail used BOTH for good when dealing with King David and as a result he chose her as a wife. In contrast, we witness on in sports how women use these TWO advantages _ looks and words - against their male co-workers and viewers. So in addition to everything else, I mentioned - my issue is these women are NOT helping if men who are fighting against lust have to see the women on sports shows dressing in a manner that excites the baser passions. Sports was always a great REST from provocative images that bombard men daily. I think that's the rest of my points.
I listen to you because I see you as very knowledgeable about womens basketball mostly because you played/coached the sports and it shows in your analysis of the game. I would not listen to you talk about football unless you can explain to me how your opinion is important for me to better understand the sport that you have no experience with.
I think there are a few things at play. I think in general people trust people who have played the game. But interestingly, I think people are more willing listen to men who haven't played than women. In contact sports, even someone like Stephen A could have played in High School so that have some small amount of experience. The women being propped up being attractive I think also broadcasts that they're not there for their sports take, but to be eye candy. I personally don't want anyone who hasn't played to be broadcasting. I have never respected SA or Skip because they didn't play. They always have the dumbest takes that aren't based on any reality and really just try to drum up controversy which works because it gets views. But the shows that I want to listen to most are the ones that ex-professionals give their analysis and takes. So if its a sport that doesnt have a real pro-womens side (football, baseball, hockey, etc.) I dont see the reason for them to be there. Alternatively, I actually think basketball is one of the only sports I will listen to women, especially if they've played. I think a women who has played pro ball could absolutely see success commentating a mens game. The problem, is that many of them are activists so they aren't interested in talking about the actual x's and o's (i.e. Sherryl Swoopes). But if Candace Parker, or Maya Moore, or even Lobo were to commentate on a mens bball game, I don't know why people would complain. They played and were great, and in many ways may have a better fundamental understanding of whats happening since the womens game is much more focused on said fundamentals. Sry so long...
I'm not sure how much of the NBA you've actually covered on your channel. The only basketball I've heard you cover so far is women's basketball. I wondered if you started covering the NBA Would you start receiving negative feedback?
Adrienne, I appreciate and respect your analysis and commentary on things. Otherwise, I wouldn’t watch or listen to you, which I have going back to early in the 2024 WNBA season...and I am here this morning!!! One day, maybe on the Squared channel, we (you and I) can discuss some matters in the realm of “Christianity”. I think we are fairly well aligned for the most part. So what does God think about ...well, sports in general?
@tellitlikeitis The TRUTH is God doesn't support sports. For years I stopped watching sports because I know this to be true. But CC brought me back to the W after 20 years. And last year I watched a sports game for the first time in 5-6 years. The WNBA finals had me thinking I need to stop watching because of some things I saw while they were interviewing certain players on the court after a win.
@@TheAdrienneRossShow I understand your perspective. I will say it this way: most people violate the first two commandments and the last one when it comes to sports. I used to do it myself too. One thing I've always respected about you was the fact that you would NOT do a live for an Iowa or Fever game if it conflicted with church. Many Christians are willing to skip worship to watch games Christ also says, where your treasure is there will your heart be also - and alot of people have their hearts more in sports than with God. The final thing that I have noticed - at least in the women's basketball sector - is that many people freely bear false witness against others. The entire WNBA community was attacking Clark fans and acting as if a few trolls were representative of all Clark fans, which was obviously not true. I just think that at the very minimum, most of us (including myself), need to reevaluate how highly we value sports in comparison to spiritual things. We need to make certain that God takes first place.
To me, the key words would be expertise, consistency of quality, honesty, sometimes 'some' experience, and the ability to speak well. You have more than obvious expertise; you are consistent not only with your opinions, but also the quality of your presentations (not just 'show'); you always confess if you have been mistaken in a previous opinion and give the REASONS why you changed opinions, not just EXCUSES for why you changed them; you obviously have a wealth of experience from both sides of the 'sideline'; and you speak clearly and strive to always used acceptable grammar, devoid of a parade of 'f bombs'. This last quality can be found with only three other presenters (in my experience). I was brought up with the maxim that the use of profanity was direct evidence of the person's lack of 'readily available' vocabulary. You must have an extensive vocabulary, because I hear profanity issuing from your mouth only when your are quoting someone else. So you fulfill everything that *I* need to lend credibility and respect to someone, regardless of endeavor. One other 'feature' is that you do not resort to either click baiting for 'hits' or shameless begging for subscribers.
I've asked this many times. What year is it? Sorry AR and community, people is ignant! There are some B.A. women commentators in every sport! Why so many haters?
I wouldn't be subscribed if I didn't think you brought value with your commentary. To me, it isn't the sport, it is if you know what you are talking about. People can fake that for a minute.
Commentating includes several elements: observation, interpretation, communication, expertise, and engagement. Women have the capacity for all five at varying degrees and therefore have the capacity to commentate just as good as men.
I refuse to watch women commentators in mens sports. Sorry Adrienne. I like you a lot & your not like the rest of the puppets at least. But i dont want to hear women calling mens games & i definitely dont want to see them umpiring. I turn it straight off & and won't watch my own team if women are involved. Go comment on womens sports. Make that great & leave men alone.
In the last ten years the quality of news and sports reporting has completely deteriorated. Men and women. I use my mute button more than any other on my remote. Gladly ade. I love to hear from you. Truth and integrity are so hard to find today. I can’t name 5 more like you. We are in a sad time.
Good point. There are enough TH-cam channels doing watch alongs that you really don’t need to hear the original audio except a little for crowd noise. I like listening to Quita, Mick, or Ben Daniel. They are very different but all provide a different perspective on the game. Quita does a great job. I’m sure Adrienne does too if she does play by play or color commentary during games.
@@ericMT No offense to Adrienne in any way, but Quita has a knack for play by play. She is ON IT! But Adrienne's live games are more fun to watch. One knock I have with Quita and Ben is they both repeat alot.
@@anitaglaab5458 unfortunately I have found her very bias for certain players which takes away from the real commentary
@@Mellowyellow3 That's a fair point. I can give that a pass though because content creators are mostly regular people , each with their own favorites. The good thing is with so many creators is there are more choices for us on who we choose to follow.
As a woman, I much prefer a commentator that has played the sport they are commentating on. I love hearing Steph White, Carolyn Peck & Chiney commentating on Women’s B Ball. Football I prefer ex Athletes as I feel they have 1st hand experience & do a great job on breaking down plays and have a better insight. But if a Qualified woman can do this well, I’m all for it. I can’t speak on the men’s opinions.
(56M UK) You are clearly very knowledgeable about Basketball. I started watching you earlier in the season when looking for good WNBA analysis. I've never considered your gender in connection with your ability to cover the content. keep up the good work Adrienne.
to have a woman commentator, color or just, i have no problem. What puts me off is when a woman is put in place just to fill a demographic AND is obviously out of place. Football for instance. i used to watch the NFL all the time and i have yet to see a woman commentator that didn't irritate me. the worst is when this woman is put in place as eye candy. that is the dumbest reason i have ever seen.
Ditto
They dont know what they are talking about most of the time. Ask pre written questions & even ask questions that have been aswered by the player in his previous answer. You can tell they all have pre written questions & dont have a clue whats going on. Comments like. "Whats it like being in a great team". "How good is it to play with your team mates". "How did it feel coming back from that". Its like watching a bunch of Democrates at a press conference. All they do is talk shit.
I am a 67 year old female. I like men talking men's sports and women talking women's sports. My husband feels the same. Admittedly, we are literally old school. 😂
sorry for u
Do not allow a negative response to cast a cloud over your day. You opinion is YOUR OPINION and in this Country you are absolutely entitled to have and to air that opinion. If someone else does not understand or respect that right, it is not your problem to correct.
I think football is a different animal than basketball. You speak with authentic authority because you played and were a basketball coach. When anyone speaks without that type of authority in any sport there is a lack of authenticity.
I have no bias regarding men vs women commentating for sports. I am a man. What I do have a bias against is idiots who don’t belong calling sports. I watched Iowa vs Penn St, and an announcer there was terrible. Got names wrong all night long. Also used phrases incorrectly and relied on them over and over even though they didn’t apply well. I thought it was a lady, but others said it was a man. I didn’t care either way. All I cared about was the fact I was ready to chew on tin foil by halftime, just to take my mind off that terrible commentator.
Nah doesn’t matter just know your stuff. It’s odd that people can be so bothered because if the same exact words a women commentator says was changed to a man’s voice, they wouldnt have a problem? Mhm weird.
Like yourself, if the woman played the sport, I’m all for it,
BOXING, UFC, NHL, NFL & MLB... no women.. but if very knowledgeable' MAYBE...
women on women's sports, yes
I’ve only become interested in the WNBA in the last few months since all the hubbub surrounding Caitlin Clark but in seeking insight into all the controversy about CC, as well as the WNBA, NBA, and basketball in general, I have found you to be not just knowledgeable but by far the most insightful person into the nuances of events that most people never even notice.
And as far as the male/female thing goes, I could not care less. Knowledge of the subject matter is the prime requisite.
I believe you have the most informative show on this subject. Keep up the excellent work.
One notable difference is that Miss Adrienne has carved out her own space here. If folks don't like what she has to say, they can move on with one click. ESPN or whatever network is not imposing her upon us during broadcasts. And keep in mind that male sports fans hate on male broadcasters too, especially analysts who won't shut up during games.
Loved it when a clearly intoxicated Joe Namath tried to kiss the female sideline reporter interviewing him.. bahaha
If they played the sport commentating is fine. Women should comment on women’s sports. ( broadcasting that is)
What I resist as a man, really as a sports fan first, is someone, male or female, who starts spouting off on the sidelines or in the announcing booth and it’s apparent that they have no clue what they’re really talking about. Real sports fans, male and female, can see through the talking heads with the blow dry hair and tons of make up immediately. They are a waste of time when I can be focusing on what is really happening on the field. I don’t need somebody telling me what is happening when I can watch it myself.
Women sports commentators would be ok if theyd find their own voice. The problem is that they try to sound just like the men. And that doesn't work. Its clownish when a woman tries to sound like Chris Collinsworth
Some of the best commentary I’ve ever heard was Lynx’s Lindsay Whelan calling a high school state championship. She explained the plays - really increased my knowledge. Some of the worst has been men commenting on gymnastics and figure skating. And have you heard Tom Brady’s horrorshow?
I love your analysis as it’s obvious your knowledge of women’s basketball both as a player and a coach. As a 70+ woman who played basketball in my young life. What I have noticed over the years with increased number of channels that the quality of sports reporters has decreased greatly. It’s as if they have a list of 10 dumb questions that keep being repeated and don’t add anything. The days of good commentary and in-depth analysis is gone, so I appreciate you. For me, it does not matter male, female, or what sport they give analysis, just the competence of analysis.
It comes down to personality for me.
Adrienne I follow a bunch of TH-camrs on women’s basketball. Each person in media has a “personality.” Which attracts different people. I like you because you are kind, well spoken, good intentioned and knowledgeable. I like Robin Lundberg for a lot of the same reasons. You can tell he has a journalist approach. I like Mick Talk Hoops because he’s OCD basketball and has a lot of knowledge of the sport in both men’s and women’s globally. His livelihood is TH-camr so just have to accept there’s a percentage of empty content videos but he’s fun most of the time. Then there’s Quita the basketball encyclopedia for women’s ball. She is just great and good natured. Then there’s the dark horse I watch in Ben Daniel… he’s a little over the top for me but I’m a direct no BS person and can’t stand victim mentality especially when those people are being the troublemakers, as has been the case for CC as we all know. So with the balance of all these YT personalities I can handle and appreciate Ben getting in the boxing ring and always going for the knock outs. With that you have to accept some of the overboard. In summary you do you. Everyone knows of all those channels and you have the most followers for a reason.
I find your commentary insightful, knowledgeable, and entertaining. Thank you, Adrienne.
What does this have to do with religion? Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Catholic, Buddhist, Lutheran, Methodist, 7 day Adventist, Mormon, Jehovah's Witness or many other respected religions I'm sure I regrettably left out. Besides the John 3:16 sign, that has been prevalent since I was a kid. I don't get it. My bad
Personally, I don't like to listen to commentators give their analysis on a game I just watched with my own eyes. Especially during halftime. I would rather watch the halftime entertainment that is never shown on tv broadcasts.
The only example I can think of is Laura Sanko in the UFC. She now commentates and is excellent at it. She has fought professionally, still trains in the sport, and works hard and studies to know what she is talking about. I think that is the biggest issue, that if someone is speaking as an expert, they need to be experienced in the field. And yes, as a side note, she is absolutely beautiful and seems to be a great person. Personally, I don't care, as long as they know what they are talking about and know how to say what they want to say well.
For me its more most female commentators/reporters in say NFL are on the field. And to be honest those interviews stopping the coach before/halftime/after the game are usually the dumbest questions. "What do you need to do to win this game? (give me an in depth answer for the 20 seconds I stopped you doing your job)". 100% of the answers, "We just need stop them and score our own points." Oh you mean the point of the game. Insightful!
Be careful there is a difference between a sideline reporter/ studio host vs a color commentator/ studio analyst.
Most men who are bothered by a woman having the effrontery to be knowledgeable about and comment on a sport are very unlikely to watch a woman’s TH-cam sports channel. One second of seeing a woman’s face on screen and they’re gone. So, your audience is made up of people who just want to hear intelligent commentary and don’t care about someone’s personal characteristics . As far as football, I’d much rather hear a knowledgeable woman than some of the absurdly uninformative stuff I’ve heard from certain men.
It’s truly disheartening to hear women downing other women. Do better ladies, it just makes you sound petty and desperate.
I don't care about the gender. It's the knowledge that the commentators have, plus the tone of their voice that can affect the whole commentary, certain tones are captivating, what I don't like are four or five commentators talking about something I have just watched with my own eyes, and getting paid millions talking about something that the live commentator has talked about for the last half hour, why repeat it all again, give me some advertising so I can run to the fridge for beer, or have time to relieve myself, so in other words, there's too much commentary, when I was young, we had one commentator at the game, and one in the sports studio, now you have at least one on each side of the playing field, and ten in the studio, it's ridiculous, gender only plays a part when the ladies are interviewing the players, the players keep there commentaries clean, because they know mama is watching, but as I said before knowledge is everything, male or female, but please, two commentators per game, it's more than enough. 😊
If you’re a professional commentator you are expected to know your stuff. I do find it weird that you see women commenting on men playing any sport, especially football. It makes me think of the boy scouts vs the Girl Scouts. Girls know just as much as boys do in for example camping, but want the girls talking to the girls and boys talking to the boys. It’s a guy or girl thing based upon who is playing.
I was watching a men's basketball game then they when to the halftime panel and it was all Women. You can tell only one of the women played the sport seriously while the other were posers who over used jargon to make it look like they knew what they were doing. It's a problem when they were hired because they have a journalist degree and did some sports in college riding the bench.
Men who are opposed to female commentators, probably won't watch this channel. However, I always had a problem with Joy Taylor. I never understood why she was on Fox. She added nothing. Mostly she interrupted the men and said foolish things. To me, she was only there for female representation. She lorded over the men, talked down to them, and they weren't allowed to push back. Now, we know how she got her job.
I am turned off by women commentators because of my dislike of women like Monica McNutt. Molly Qerim, Draya Carter....It may not be fair to let this color my feelings towards other women, but I have less confidence in their opinions. When so many of these women were touting Angel Reese over Caitlin Clark they lost all their credibility. I lost all respect for them when I saw how easily they changed their opinions when they were confronted.
I have some confirmation bias against women talking about football only. When I see women talking football, in my head I just check out…
Okay, I appreciate your honesty.
When I was much younger. I admit I was. I've come around. However, there are a few women which I cannot take seriously .Molly from ESPN , her opinions are ridiculous.
men have a more deep dramatic booming voice when calling games.
"Where sports and culture connect" or "sports is a microcosm of what's going on in the culture", this may have been the beginning of the blurring of the roles of men and women. Just a thought...
This is a great discussion. I'm going to go with the "knowledge theory," because I don't think men and women don't want to hear women commentate on men's sports as long as she has knowledge of the sport. What I do think is what people don't want to hear is people like Joy Taylor, Mina Kimes, Molly Cuerim, and a few others commentate on sports, because they're, most of the time, just sharing their opinions about the sport. For example, when the Indiana Fever's coach Stephanie White commentates on the NBA, I haven't heard anyone say she shouldn't be talking for "men's sports." Why? Because she has knowledge of the game of basketball, right? I've heard women commentate on MLB, NBA, and the NFL and do great jobs, but then you do have the "eye-candy," women who lack knowledge of the game and are only there for their physical appearance. Great discussion.
If the person is knowledgeable about the game their sex should not be an issue. Many women are very smart when it comes to football (Caitlin Clark vs the Kelce bros). Even though they haven't played the game, they've been around it all their lives because of their dads and brothers.
(56M) I'm glad to see people like me that are all about the "league/sport knowledge".. However, if the question is "do most men think" then that is different. In my experience most men would think "what does she know, she probably didnt grow up living and breathing the league/sport). so stereotypically thinking that the "girls grew up with dolls not sport", which is obviously stupid, we are not living in the 1950's...
PS. i'm from the UK anfd started watching American sports later in life and yet i know a lot about it.. So it doesnt matter "what you grew up doing either" you can become knowledgeable in sport with hard work, whoever you are....
I have to agree with most of what was said.. I have absolutely no problem with women commentators on most sports, specifically women’s sports obvs. BUT with football? My initial impulse is to listen to them more critically than I would a man. BUT once they prove they know their stuff, I’m 100% on board! I think everyone is just so sick of the DEI nonsense that whenever we see something like a woman in what is normally a “man’s job”, I automatically assume they probably didn’t fully earn the job and jump through the same hoops the men had to do to get there
wouldn't it be wonderful if competence was the main point...knowledgeability of the sport in question and the ability to do good commentary, neither of which are gender/sex/whatever dependent.
Again AR! Education, Experience, Kindness, Insight, Confidence, and Respect that you were obviously raised with my Friend. If you would be gracious enough to let me call you.Thank You! I've said before, Please do not ever, ever, quit what you're doing! Many Blessings to you and the wonderful community you have created!
You consistently have great takes. That’s all I care about.
Women commentate on women’s sports and men on men’s sports, sounds very fair to me
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I think they can make all the general comment s they want but when they try to analyze plays especially football is ridiculous.
@ Is it ridiculous because they haven't played, or is football too difficult for a woman to analyze?
This is kind of funny to me. Never thought about the fact you are a woman. I found this channel because I was looking for legitimate information on Caitlin Clark and the Fever and so much of what I see is just rubbish, especially on CC. I like how you bring the straight scoop and you have some really good insights as to the WNBA. I love your 'takes!'
Yes to me it does matter what sport the commentary is about. While i don't take a woman's opinion on football seriously. Interviews are an exception. That being said I prefer women's sports casters when it's women's sporting events. Of course this very much simplifies the conversation.
For me, it’s a lot about voice and personality - of either gender. That being said, I have to admit I HAVE had a bias against female sports commentators in certain sports - even though I, myself, am a woman. But I think it’s more because I find it annoying when they put someone in such a position JUST because they fit a particular demographic (gender, age, ethnicity,…) the league or network is trying to appeal to. It feels like an affront.
Can we all just agree that you shouldn’t be paid to commentate on a sport that you couldn’t coach at a biddy league level?
(P.S. I love your 🏀 commentary and what you teach me about the game.)
The sports version of "girls can't do math".
It's a very difficult question. The right person (male or female) for that kind of job must possess a very specific set of characteristics.
A woman could do a great job if she had the right vocabulary to create the right vivid picture in the spectator's (a man's) head and match that picture to some stats. The wrong words will irritate her audience. The wrong tone (squawking or shrilling) will bother her audience. The wrong fashion (too sexy) will annoy her listeners.
A good example from the UFC is Laura Sanko. The Chief Bro, Dana White, heard one of her interviews and loved the quality of her questions and knowledge of the sport. The interviewees respected her thoughtfulness. She is pretty, but everyone knows that she is a married woman, so her work is just business, no flirting stuff.
Never been a fan of women on the sidelines for men's sports. It just gives off DEI vibes to me. Especially with all the hair, makeup and high heels. On the field or court it screams eye candy to me. There has always been one exception, though. Robin Roberts, until the kinder, gentler Robin Roberts showed up. OG Robin would show up in a sweat suit and tennis shoes, and gave off an athlete vibe. Now its all about the "fits". Please!
Put a watermark on your videos. Plus in background your channel. We your fans like me put your channel in comments. Especially in our Fever fan pages.
I love Rebecca Lobo or Stephanie White as commentators. They have to know what they are talking about.
Also, and this goes for the men too: they talk WAY too much in NCAA and WNBA games. Note how on almost every CC highlight, they are talking about some other random thing like they are bored and don’t really care about the game. It isn’t necessary. There’s enough down time in basketball that they don’t need to talk during all the action. But what do I know?
My biggest issue with wnba commentary is they act like every player in the league is a superstar it’s annoying
For the most part, I don’t care if it’s a man or a woman, if the commentators know the game and have a good personality. I watch a lot of ncaa softball- I love Beth Mowins and all the women that call the games. I hate when they bring a man in lol I’ve yet to hear a man call a good softball game. I watch a lot of football and was surprised how much I enjoyed Romo calling the games. He was not a favorite player of mine
I think part of it is about maintaining somethings that are just for men honestly. Good or bad here is one example, If ladies are in a Red Hat club, do they really want men to join or attend? I think men want some things for themselves and there is a feeling like that is becoming non existent. I think men are in general fine with women having a lot of opportunities that weren't always available to them. But there is a feeling that there is no end to it. As it relates to commentating there is probably an element of wondering, as a woman, do you want to do it because you love sports or is it because women should be able to do anything? I think they mean if Women are playing then women should be commentators. So you would have women covering Wnba and men in Nba.
I could care less what gender they are. Their knowledge of the sport and personality. Dream team is Rebecca Lobo & Ryan Rucco. I’m a new women’s basketball fan last year and there are few men in this space that are knowledgeable imo. All the external reporting by men that never followed women’s bball in past and going for clicks just sound stupid because they don’t know any players or teams.
I don't have a problem with women doing play-by-play or doing color commentating. Two of my faves are Jessica Mendoza for ESPN Baseball and Stephanie White for ESPN and the Big Ten Network. In fact, I'm a little saddened that we won't be hearing Stephanie White broadcasting anytime in the near future. Just wondering if network could've approached it differently. Football is a sport played almost entirely by men yet they had three women as commentators in the example you showed. While I'm very familiar with Holly Rowe, I'm unfamiliar with the other two. If the network was gonna roll out women, they should've been widely known/respected by the football community.
love your show on both channels. I always look forward to your show and I never considered that you're a woman and therefore not qualified. It is a matter of knowledge, education, and insight. Would a person not go to a female dentist, doctor, or surgeon purely because they are a woman? I think not.
I do t think for most people it matters. But 17% of men caring sounds about right. I’d suspect that’s roughly the same % of insecure sexist men. Just sayin
If women stick to womens sports and are knowledgeable....ok. But i think in general women dont color commentate as well as men. I mean if a woman replaced Al Michaels for the Miracle on Ice, it wouldnt have been the same.
I think it's just a football thing. I come to your channel along with ben Daniel and one or two other for all my wnba stuff and I consider your info as credible and insightful as any other channel.
As for other channels giving 'shout-outs' I generally don't see that is giving anyone proper credit, I see it as trying to share subscribers. I hope you do crack down on those using your content. I can't say I have seen any that I can recall, but sources need to be credited.
Fly hippie is a good podcaster also
One point I must hit upon that I did not in my other comments is that the issue is NOT and NEVER has been if a woman is expert or not. A woman being knowledgeable is GOOD - but thst is NOT why most men reject women in men's sports. There are MANY men who speak on the NFL or NBA who never played the sport. Bob Costas never played. Mike Tirico never did. Neither did Chris Russo or Jay Glazer. It's about all the EXTRA stuff thst always comes up -
1. Men begin to at and speak differently when even 1 woman joins.
2. The women begin to push their feminist agenda and even lecture men.
3. The women begin dressing provocatively.
In the SAME WAY that women do not want men to invade their female spaces, most men see men's sports as a male domain and therefore do not want to see women calling games on men's sports or host shows discussing men's sports.
I am reposting parts of my comments just in case YT deletes my comment again
TH-cam took it down? That's wild!
@@TheAdrienneRossShow YT is removing comments a lot now a days. I usually never notice it except when I respond to a comment and someone is responding to me and then I look for my previous comment that they were responding to but it is no longer there.
It may also be that some comments get removed if it gets reported or gets a certain number of down votes> I am not sure what the parameters are.
It also depend on the expertise of the hosts (aka; commentators.) Two related examples:
1. The Bird & Taurasi Show (when they covered the Iowa versus South Carolina at the final four game 2023), the hosts spend majority of the game time talking about everything else but the game itself. (Experts at the subject but not the presentation.)
2. Monica McNutt, who only played basketball at the college level but because her journalism degree, became an analyst for ESPN at the professional level. (Expert at the presentation but not necessary the subject.)
Have a nice day and always enjoy your shows!
Bird and Taurasi were just awful. They never shut up. Called their U Conn team the greatest ever.
I enjoy your commentary. Play by play, I enjoy a man’s voice better. But Caitlin did a credible job of baseball play by play.
I'm from Cincinnati! For the Reds. One of, if not the greatest radio broadcaster of all time, Marty Brennaman. "Enshrined in the broadcasters' wing of the National Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, NY, on July 23, 2000. He was the annual recipient of the Ford C. Frick Award, presented annually since 1978. Except for 1978, when two recipients were named, each subsequent year there has been one winner. Never played baseball! Please people, Grow Up! I finna go School House Rock. Once again, Knowledge is Power!
I prefer for the commentator to match the players on the field. If men are playing then men in the booth and same for the women.
Some prefer the voice of a man over a woman when it comes to commentary
I think you're fantastic keep up the good work 😊
I want knowledge. I think Shaq is a great sports commentator - on men's basketball. If I'm looking at a women's game, I would prefer Rebecca Lobo. She's knowledgeable and has played on the women's side. She's been in those locker rooms. She knows the players and the plays. I do not need women commentating on football.
That being said, I do not listen to Stephen A Smith at all. The fact that he is a man does not commend him. I can do without Skip Bayless, too.
In a larger sense, feminism is being questioned. A lot of women commentators are eye candy/DEI hires. There are a lot of women in their jobs because an exec decided that the show needed some eye candy to juice ratings (or other reasons, see Taylor, Joy). I think men are, on average, more interested in sports than women.
As for you, Adrienne, I like your faith-based point of view, as well as your knowledge of basketball.
You don’t get the pushback because people have to go out of their way to watch your TH-cam channel.
It’s not like you are on ESPN or broadcasted on sports bars across the country.
Sometimes you can have excellent TV/moderators that do a great job covering despite never playing the sport at a competitive level. Ernie Johnson for NBA TNT comes to mind. Only played baseball in college but is an excellent moderator in between Barkley, smith, and Shaq.
1- most of your viewership came from the WNBA coverage, so your audience is already self-selected to like women's sports and enjoy your take. Perhaps they like you opinion because you are a woman or it doesn't matter to them.
2- when it comes to color commentary (like the iconic Madden) most viewers do want someone with real life experience in the pros. We want this inside scoop.
3- Play-by-play and analysis is a skill you can learn. I will compare it to coaching, because there is concrete evidence. Coaches without experience in the sport or at the level they are coaching can be successful. They have learned how to analyze and come up with a way to respond. They also can explain it in a way that gets the other coaches and team to agree. Joe Gibbs, played football in HS, in the 1950's, yet was a great coach in the NFL. His playing experience was probably so different than the NFL when he coached, its fair to say it was almost a whole different game.
4- my opinion: People who are sexist use football to defend their position because there aren't many women who played in college, so it's easier to just say they don't know the game. It's much harder to criticize a specific woman who did play the sport and is a good commentator, because you are personally insulting that woman.
5- I am a female mechanic engineer (graduated in 1988) and the handyperson in my family. My experience- people don't come right out and say because I am a woman, I can't know enough. But they ignore me. We recently had a contractor at home, to look at a problem that was not straightforward. I was the one who asked and answered questions, but he only looked at my husband. Obviously, we did not hire that guy.
I won't say this was a "microaggression" because it was flagrant. My husband however had not noticed! To his defense, he was focused on the contractor's plan and the cost. When the next contractor came in, hubby immediately redirected him to talk with me.
It is progress that people don't feel comfortable directly saying you are incompetent because you are a woman. But, not acknowledging you as a source of information they are presenting is an indicator that they don't want to declare that you, a woman who didn't play in the W knows here stuff.
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Anti-Christian?
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I would say people don't want to hear women discus sports unless it is a sport they have played at some point, or if they are the rare lifelong fan of the sport that knows the rules and much of the history of the sport. They really don't care that much about a look pretty telepromter reader
Yeah I’d say American Football is the only thing that might bother me because they never played. But some women have a deep knowledge of football and can do a great job. Depends on the person I guess.
18:30 Ms Ross no one complains about you talking basketball because I at least come for women’s basketball commentary and also you’re good at it. I listen to guys talk women’s basketball mostly.With women’s basketball if I want a female perspective on the sport I go to a female channel because it’s a different perspective of that sport. MEN AND WOMEN ARE DIFFERENT. We’ll see the same thing differently at times. And that’s great we learn something.
I prefer to listen to a guy talk about basketball because the sport is a male sport. If it were a female thing then I would listen to a female because they understand it in that way.
For example, a lot of guys complain about women missing layups in basketball. We know why they miss but for a woman they might take offense to it. Already the exact some sport is being judged differently. Thus the analysis of the game is different. Do you get where I’m going with this? Men can understand men because we’re men so we can hold each other to a higher standard and will be brutally honest. When it comes to women there will be a limit on that standard for obvious reasons (biology).
I’ll bring Caitlin Clark into this. Caitlin caught my attention because she brings male attributes to the women’s game. She plays fearless, shoots from the logo consistently, she has the bravado that a guy who knows they’re the best has. And she wins achieving impossible things(natty appearance two straight years). She’s a star. I love that.
Excellent post - ESPECIALLY your second paragraph
Holly Rowe is good at covering Oklahoma Sooners Women's Softball, Women's College Basketball etc. Rebecca Lobo is another woman that does a good job covering women's basketball. Adrienne Ross I enjoy your commentary on the WNBA and when I share your videos in our Caitlin Clark Fan Group I give you cedit for the videos. I think you would make a good commentator covering the WNBA in the booth or a good sideline reporter.
This topic is really very hard to dissect. Personally, I listen to different commentators and content creators, and I tend to listen to the value of what they're saying,,,,they may be men or women, I don't really care that much. What's important to me is the content, then the delivery. If I like it, then I usually look at their other videos. But i'm pretty sure that a lot of viewers are more interested in who is the one hosting the show. These people are so biased and cannot be swayed any which way. So, even if a female sportscaster is very knowledgeable in the sport she's reporting on, these bigoted and misogynistic people are not going to like her.
If you have women referring NFL games who are very knowledgeable of the sport, why not have female commentary on football? There's only been one time a female called a NFL game if my memory is correct.
I don't care. Just keep the nonsense out.
The nonsense CAME when the women came. Facts.
Look at the NBA. The league has ALOT of issues but I remember in the late 90s and early 2000s when the league, to avoid lawsuits, began integrst8ng the executive offices of the NBA.... and all these issues came up as a result to where now the NBA is a dying sport.
Here is my messed up bias.Depends on the sport and yes i would rather listen to a man that doesn't know what he is talking about than a women. Football is a hard no. Here in the land of the woke (Canada) we have women commentating on hockey at first i was all WTF but the ladies they have chosen for hockey know there stuff due to being olympic medalists in hockey It no longer bothers me at all.
What a question. So many small details matter. If I just had to answer square yes/no. I'd say yes. Depending on the sport, is a bit of a cheat, so ill ignore that for now.
The reason I say yes, is not because 'we' don't like women, or don't value the opinion of one that is knowledgeable. It's because of the women that we are presented, by the media.
But let me disclaimer myself, as the grumpy curmudgeon that is annoyed by most commentators, men included.
Some are annoying because they try to 'fit the mold'. I think this is similar to the way the WNBA started with their 'physicality' nonsense. They did not want to be perceived as powder puffs, so they doubled down on the wrong thing.
Some are annoying because they are 'trying too hard.'
Some are annoying because their voice is just not good for radio/tv. As a Colt fan, we typically get the CBS d team of Dedes and Archuleta, who are not good. But once or twice a year we get Beth Mowins and the game feels 4 hours long and all I want is Dedes to return.
Then you have the ones that don't belong, and are only around because they are eye candy, DEI, and politics. Those that aren't swayed by that criteria, are annoyed.
But, I don't think it's across the board. Some do well, you do well. I have attended a few of your live basketball shows. Never once did I think, she's just not qualified, or yikes her voice could curdle milk. You aren't trying to be someone you're not, not pushing an agenda... It's pretty simple I think, we just have very bad options. Maybe that's the same reason why so many of the men are not so good either.
Basil spitting facts and knowledge tonight. I agree, it depends on the person and what they know and how they observe the game. WNBA commentary varies wildly depending on basketball knowledge. They also tend to dumb everything down for TV because they know most of their viewers are idiots. Not us of course. Just most average casuals that are half paying attention and don’t really know the game anyway.
Sex of the commentator doesn’t really matter. The best commentators are former players of the sport they are working. The best are the ones that truly do an objective analysis of the contest they are commentating. To be honest, there are very few really good commentators in sports today. I think the best are a mixture of men and women. To be clear, the best never talk about political issues or strong opinions they hold. An objective view of the competitors and interesting insights from experts make commentators great!!!
The last 2 sentences are CRUCIAL.
As far as listening to you, it has to do with expertise. When you were explaining various basketball techniques, plays, and shooting techniques, I was completely captivated. Why? Because it was very clear you knew what you were talking about. Why was it clear? Because you could fluently explain subtleties and fine points about what you were discussing, like when you were explaining how to set a pick, and you showed how the Fever players were using poor technique, and when you talked about shooting technique and explained details about arm position, or when you were explaining how Aliyah Boston was turning the wrong way in the pick and roll drills. For me, if the commentator knows what they are talking about, I am fine with it, man or woman.
Women commentating on football, a sport that women do not play, often suffer from the lack of direct experience in knowing the subtleties and finer points that only come from experience at a high level. In general, I don't enjoy women broadcasting football and baseball for that reason. Some women commentators are very knowledgeable about strategy in the sport, like Mina Kimes in football, but not having played or coached, she still has no direct knowledge of the actual "feel" of playing. So, sports like tennis, gymnastics, track and field, basketball, or any sport where the commentator has experiential expertise and knows how to communicate it, I am fine watching, and hopefully learning somerhing.
This may be multi-post comment because this subject is something I think about often..
Let me start from the back. I have ZERO problems with you speaking about basketball. In fact, I subbed to this channel after your second video on Caitlin Clark - and then you blew up. When it comes to ALL sports, there are only 4 people thst I am subscribed to and 3 of them are in the WNBA space and the other is an NBA TH-cam. You and Quita are the main people I listen to. There is another guy in the WNVA arena that I sub to and he DOES mention your name. - but he doesn't give credit to ANYONE who started talking WBB within the past 2 years. He at least mentions your name and DeMita. But he will not mention anyone else by name.
Outside of that one guy who is negative, I've been hearing people mention you both from WBB TH-cam and also those who speak on cultural topics but they mentioned you when weighing in on the Angel Reese and Charleston White controversy. They say they watch you and enjoy your videos.
Now - to the question at hand, I will respond in followup post
PART 2
I am subscribed to gou and QLS because I want to hear you two talk women's basketball. But where do I stand on women speaking on men's sports? In general, I am against it. Why? Not because a woman couldn't do well. There are many capable women. The ISSUE is thst sports was always the LAST frontier of MALE SPACES.
Sports has ALWAYS been the place that men go to decompress from the stresses from work AND from home. Sports is a place also a place where men can be MEN with all of our uncouth and uncultured traits without fear of women trying to civilize and TONE POLICE us.
Sports also has been an important vehicle for strengthening male relationships - father and son relationships, friendships, coworkers, etc. The MOMENT a woman is introduced, it begins to collapse. NOTICE, for example what is happening with Nightcap right now.
Because women do not understand the male code of behavior, when women join male sports as commentators, or announcers three things tend to happen
1. Men neuter themselves and don't speak or behave freely like they usually would
2. Women sexualize themselves - like Joy Taylor
3. The women push their feminist agenda and try to LECTURE men. See MALIKA ANDREWS and JEMELLE HILL
Having said all of that - there were a FEW women that I DID accept even though I would have preferred all men on these sports shows..... Robin Robert's I loved and Hannah Storm also. I liked Jackie MacMullan as well. And I loved Michelle Tafoya, Lisa Salters, and ESPECIALLY Pam Oliver as sideline reporters.
Women calling men's games or coaching men I will never accept. That's the main reason why I stopped watching the NBA. But I have come to accept women as sideline reporters. Theoretically I can accept women on the shows - however, the TWO women I DID accept - Joy Taylor and Rachel Nichols - have scandals surrounding them. I will stop here.
@ This is good stuff. You clearly know what you're talking about and can name names, which tells me you have taken in a lot more of this than I have. I appreciate your perspective. This is why I wanted to ask the question--because I know people like you would give me perspectives I cannot possibly have by only thinking my own thoughts and not inviting others to share theirs. Thank you!
@ You are very welcome. Two things I wanted to highlight before I close:
1. I left out a word when I said "I have to accept" women as sideline reports. I meant to write "I have COME to accept" women as sideline reporters. In other words, It doesn't bother me anymore. Yes, I miss people like Ahmad Rashad, Lynn Swann and Craig Saiger as sideline reports. However, women like Lisa Salters, Michelle Tafoya, and Pam Oliver did such an EXCELLENT job with how PROFESSIONAL they were, that I have no issues with women in those positions at all. I DO have an issue with women being in male locker rooms, however. That is just inappropriate. And this goes to my second point.
2. Another reason why I accept women as sideline reporters is because they do not dress provocatively, nor do they lean in on the stereotype that all men do is think below the belt. Society is being torn apart from the seams in part due to the influence of the CORN industry (change the C to a P). For the men who may be waging a Hurculean battle against lust, a lot of these shows are NOT helping men at all. Women like Molly Qerim and especially Joy Taylor are using men's weaknesses against them - all to gain a profit.
Now, it IS true that men MUST gain control in this arena. However, despite what Cain wants to think, we are ALL our brother's keeper. In general, women are weaker than men. Men have an overwhelming physical advantage over women. The man of integrity and honor will NEVER use a woman's weaknesses against her. In like manner, I believe that a woman of integrity and honor will NEVER use a man's weaknesses against him. ABIGAIL is perhaps the BEST example that I can use - when you look at I Samuel 25. King David clearly had issues of lust AND he was in great wrath at that moment. Abigail did not use her body to calm him down but instead, she used her womanly influence and her WORDS to help him to reconsider his desired action. Women have two advantages over men - their looks and their verbal abilities. Abigail used BOTH for good when dealing with King David and as a result he chose her as a wife. In contrast, we witness on in sports how women use these TWO advantages _ looks and words - against their male co-workers and viewers.
So in addition to everything else, I mentioned - my issue is these women are NOT helping if men who are fighting against lust have to see the women on sports shows dressing in a manner that excites the baser passions. Sports was always a great REST from provocative images that bombard men daily.
I think that's the rest of my points.
I listen to you because I see you as very knowledgeable about womens basketball mostly because you played/coached the sports and it shows in your analysis of the game. I would not listen to you talk about football unless you can explain to me how your opinion is important for me to better understand the sport that you have no experience with.
I think there are a few things at play. I think in general people trust people who have played the game. But interestingly, I think people are more willing listen to men who haven't played than women. In contact sports, even someone like Stephen A could have played in High School so that have some small amount of experience. The women being propped up being attractive I think also broadcasts that they're not there for their sports take, but to be eye candy. I personally don't want anyone who hasn't played to be broadcasting. I have never respected SA or Skip because they didn't play. They always have the dumbest takes that aren't based on any reality and really just try to drum up controversy which works because it gets views. But the shows that I want to listen to most are the ones that ex-professionals give their analysis and takes. So if its a sport that doesnt have a real pro-womens side (football, baseball, hockey, etc.) I dont see the reason for them to be there. Alternatively, I actually think basketball is one of the only sports I will listen to women, especially if they've played. I think a women who has played pro ball could absolutely see success commentating a mens game. The problem, is that many of them are activists so they aren't interested in talking about the actual x's and o's (i.e. Sherryl Swoopes). But if Candace Parker, or Maya Moore, or even Lobo were to commentate on a mens bball game, I don't know why people would complain. They played and were great, and in many ways may have a better fundamental understanding of whats happening since the womens game is much more focused on said fundamentals. Sry so long...
I'm not sure how much of the NBA you've actually covered on your channel. The only basketball I've heard you cover so far is women's basketball. I wondered if you started covering the NBA Would you start receiving negative feedback?
Adrienne, I appreciate and respect your analysis and commentary on things. Otherwise, I wouldn’t watch or listen to you, which I have going back to early in the 2024 WNBA season...and I am here this morning!!! One day, maybe on the Squared channel, we (you and I) can discuss some matters in the realm of “Christianity”. I think we are fairly well aligned for the most part. So what does God think about ...well, sports in general?
Oooo, let’s talk about it on the Squared channel! Email me!
@tellitlikeitis
The TRUTH is God doesn't support sports.
For years I stopped watching sports because I know this to be true.
But CC brought me back to the W after 20 years. And last year I watched a sports game for the first time in 5-6 years.
The WNBA finals had me thinking I need to stop watching because of some things I saw while they were interviewing certain players on the court after a win.
@@Mirror_of_the_Soul00 I definitely disagree with you, but it would be a great conversation. :)
@@TheAdrienneRossShow I understand your perspective. I will say it this way: most people violate the first two commandments and the last one when it comes to sports. I used to do it myself too. One thing I've always respected about you was the fact that you would NOT do a live for an Iowa or Fever game if it conflicted with church. Many Christians are willing to skip worship to watch games Christ also says, where your treasure is there will your heart be also - and alot of people have their hearts more in sports than with God. The final thing that I have noticed - at least in the women's basketball sector - is that many people freely bear false witness against others. The entire WNBA community was attacking Clark fans and acting as if a few trolls were representative of all Clark fans, which was obviously not true.
I just think that at the very minimum, most of us (including myself), need to reevaluate how highly we value sports in comparison to spiritual things. We need to make certain that God takes first place.
To me, the key words would be expertise, consistency of quality, honesty, sometimes 'some' experience, and the ability to speak well. You have more than obvious expertise; you are consistent not only with your opinions, but also the quality of your presentations (not just 'show'); you always confess if you have been mistaken in a previous opinion and give the REASONS why you changed opinions, not just EXCUSES for why you changed them; you obviously have a wealth of experience from both sides of the 'sideline'; and you speak clearly and strive to always used acceptable grammar, devoid of a parade of 'f bombs'. This last quality can be found with only three other presenters (in my experience).
I was brought up with the maxim that the use of profanity was direct evidence of the person's lack of 'readily available' vocabulary. You must have an extensive vocabulary, because I hear profanity issuing from your mouth only when your are quoting someone else.
So you fulfill everything that *I* need to lend credibility and respect to someone, regardless of endeavor.
One other 'feature' is that you do not resort to either click baiting for 'hits' or shameless begging for subscribers.
I agree with tj moe
A lot of people do, it seems. I don’t like the way he shares his thoughts sometimes.
I've asked this many times. What year is it? Sorry AR and community, people is ignant! There are some B.A. women commentators in every sport! Why so many haters?
I wouldn't be subscribed if I didn't think you brought value with your commentary.
To me, it isn't the sport, it is if you know what you are talking about. People can fake that for a minute.
Commentating includes several elements: observation, interpretation, communication, expertise, and engagement. Women have the capacity for all five at varying degrees and therefore have the capacity to commentate just as good as men.
Is this negative attitude to women mainly from concussion sports where brain damage is an issue?
I think it’s more so about not understanding the physicality of the sport
I refuse to watch women commentators in mens sports. Sorry Adrienne. I like you a lot & your not like the rest of the puppets at least. But i dont want to hear women calling mens games & i definitely dont want to see them umpiring. I turn it straight off & and won't watch my own team if women are involved. Go comment on womens sports. Make that great & leave men alone.
If the woman or man knows their stuff, knowledge and has a personality I’m good. I don’t care what sport it is. 🩷🏀
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