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Weird thing about that - they didn't have any of 1936 designs that they should have, but they DID have a bunch of interwar designs, and that was planes that I was using at the start.
@@BobbyWanKenobi too late, I am already angry, pissed off, and my day is ruined thanks anyways, I will drown my sorrows in a deep glass chopper of chocolate milk
Pretty much all battleships had plane catapults, a lot of heavy cruisers and even bigger light cruisers did too. They was needed for this things called aerial recon and ASW. Pretty much same reason ships has helicopters now. Just too clarify, conventional ships operated float planes that was recovered by literally landing near ship and being picked by a crane on board. Japanese even had special recon heavy cruisers of Tone-class specifically build towards intense plane operations
Very interesting, also I'd like to say you wrote this very well, however you do have a few grammatical errors in your comment. If you want I can help you out and tell you where they are then just ask, otherwise I'll mind my business
I think that for nations like Italy that capitulated before the end of the war, you should be allowed some leeway in division template designs, in the years we have no further sources for, based on trends that were already in progress. So what I mean for instance, is the tank division expanding a bit, and more of the motorcycle & motorised infantry getting replaced with mechanised forces.
Hmm... It's quite interesting how different your and bitter's games went. His Germany managed to destroy USSR alone. Could it be because you imported iron from France and not Germany?
@@Aldrahill maybe you let your forces lose sometimes in order to make your videos more interesting, but if not, here’s a tip: autoplanning bot doesn’t attack provinces that are connected to only one of its own provinces if there are partially surrounded ones. You can place just one random division in these less attacked provinces and focus all your main forces on the critical areas. Draw there defence lines and your frontline will become unbeatable. That’s how all of Endsiegs are commonly being won
@@AldrahillIt could have potentially been that. I did notice you decided to trade for oil with the US rather than Romania (although I’m not sure how much oil Romania has in BICE tbf). It’s always good to only trade with nations which you will fight alongside with even in vanilla. Otherwise you’re just strengthening the enemy. *cough* *cough* Japan *cough*
"The game is lagging so bad in 1948. My pc won't make it into the 50's." *Playing the clock on max speed* I think I see the real issue. I'm fairly certain the Soviets could still be beaten though.
Remember how the British Empire annexed the entirety of Andalusia after a small border skirmish between Francoist borderguards and the tens-of-thousands-strong Gibraltar Garrison? This mod is SO historically accurate!
I had to completely rebuild my computer earlier this year as my computer was literally dying, so now I can actually make it past 1945 xD First time ever
Next time you fight in the Egypt area, check out the bottleneck just north of Luxor. By fortifying just 3 tiles, you can lock up the entire southern border. If you combine this with forts in the Suez and El Alamein, you can reduce your entire land border in Egypt to just 6 tiles that you have to defend. With level 5 forts, and two divisions per tile, 12 good infantry divisions can hold on to Egypt for quite a long time. One of the 3 tiles in the south is also a mountain, which can help farm for the mountaineer trait, if you want to later try and invade the Caucasus, etc.😃
Well this timeline is broadly horrifying: With Italian Competence the following has occurred: - Massive unrecoverable Allied Losses with millions more dead than in our own timeline - UK Sealion will result in an American Supported Government Ultimately as the european axis collapses (to the USSR) - All of mainland Europe will fall under Soviet Influence with exception of Greece, Turkey and Iberia. With the likely scenario of the greek civil war ultimately succeeding in this timeline. Oh and of course, Japan saw the destruction of much of asia, although they will inevitably surrender it's possible that we will not see a chinese civil war as the KMT was destroyed, which may lead to either a korean split of china once the USSR invades manchuria or potentially a china that comes under the exiled mao (or another character).
It actually isn't that weird for a battleship to have a catapult on it, most ww2 Era battleships had a couple scout planes they could launch to help with aiming the guns.
08:40 the real reason why they put the black shirt legion into the regular division is because the Italian army high command realised that a binary division is a bad idea if they can't motorized it. So they got back to the old triangular.
@@Aldrahill yes I know. Also North African Auto-Transport Division (Regular Infantry Division in North Africa) Don't have the black shirt legion and their artillery are fully motorized.
11:14 Um... Polish volunteers joining an Axis power? Would Mussolini accept this? Didn't mustache man want all the Poles to be Thanos snapped? How would he feel about this?
Thank you for all the time and effort making the content 👍 if you make an Italian video again in black ice . Can you do non historical and make Italy really strong or as strong as u can to see how powerful they could get?
Aldrahill if you do blackice challenge add bitt3rsteel and legit burger and do a new challenge run in black ice with you in the veteran difficulty declare war on the whole world and try to conquer or survive (you can guys can do historical if you want) in Black Ice since i wanna see you 3 suffer such a good mod PLSSSSSSS i am begging do this.❤❤ Edit:for context you guys need to be playing as italy for the challenge just you 3 in veteran difficulty or nationalist china remember BLACK ICE MOD you to do it in the black ice difficulty veteran
Honestly, this mod is really overrated. There's so many issues with the historical accuracy and how some things are handled, especially with Italy. No planes in 1936, Turkey joining in 1943, the annexation of a state in Spain by the British? Stupid. On another topic, you should branch into other mods! There's so many full conversions out there that you might find yourself really enjoying. Maybe you can bring your historical sense into them and try to accomplish certain goals? Sky is the limit. Loved the video as always dude.
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Please do Historical Yugoslavia next...either in vanilla Hoi4 or BlackIce,as you'd desire...pretty please?
It’s definitely on the list!!
I'm pretty sure italy had planes in 36...
Weird thing about that - they didn't have any of 1936 designs that they should have, but they DID have a bunch of interwar designs, and that was planes that I was using at the start.
They had a fairly large and capable air force in 36... that was not so large and awfully obsolete by 1940
Italy had planes in 1936, however non were 1936 tech.
Yeah I agree bestie
Some of the best interwar planes (somehow)
6:45 "Its 1939 and the war kicked off a little bit early..."
The war kicked off almost to the exact hour as it did in real life.
Well damn that shows me
@@Aldrahill exactly, you have to be accurate to the milisecond lest you incur the wrath of the comment section 😆
@@BobbyWanKenobi too late, I am already angry, pissed off, and my day is ruined
thanks anyways, I will drown my sorrows in a deep glass chopper of chocolate milk
Pretty much all battleships had plane catapults, a lot of heavy cruisers and even bigger light cruisers did too. They was needed for this things called aerial recon and ASW. Pretty much same reason ships has helicopters now.
Just too clarify, conventional ships operated float planes that was recovered by literally landing near ship and being picked by a crane on board. Japanese even had special recon heavy cruisers of Tone-class specifically build towards intense plane operations
Very interesting, also I'd like to say you wrote this very well, however you do have a few grammatical errors in your comment. If you want I can help you out and tell you where they are then just ask, otherwise I'll mind my business
@@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg English isn't my first language so I might have made some mistakes, if you have time feel free to point them out
i've scrolled through the channel and don't see armored car only Ottomans in Great War Redux, must be TH-cam being buggy
Oh dear god xd
@@Aldrahill ottomans only infantry, no arty or horses, only men
Nah, only camels 🐫@@notsogreatcourier9536
4:29 basically all battleships had airplane catapults lol
True! Been educated since making this
I think that for nations like Italy that capitulated before the end of the war, you should be allowed some leeway in division template designs, in the years we have no further sources for, based on trends that were already in progress. So what I mean for instance, is the tank division expanding a bit, and more of the motorcycle & motorised infantry getting replaced with mechanised forces.
0:32 idk man but that one yumsuc guy or whatever seems kinda cool and sick
I agree, he seems based to me
Hmm... It's quite interesting how different your and bitter's games went. His Germany managed to destroy USSR alone. Could it be because you imported iron from France and not Germany?
Oh man, I only wish mine went so well :( maybe! That’s an interesting idea
@@Aldrahill maybe you let your forces lose sometimes in order to make your videos more interesting, but if not, here’s a tip: autoplanning bot doesn’t attack provinces that are connected to only one of its own provinces if there are partially surrounded ones. You can place just one random division in these less attacked provinces and focus all your main forces on the critical areas. Draw there defence lines and your frontline will become unbeatable. That’s how all of Endsiegs are commonly being won
@@AldrahillIt could have potentially been that. I did notice you decided to trade for oil with the US rather than Romania (although I’m not sure how much oil Romania has in BICE tbf). It’s always good to only trade with nations which you will fight alongside with even in vanilla. Otherwise you’re just strengthening the enemy. *cough* *cough* Japan *cough*
Let's go new black ice vid
And it HONESTLY wasn't even that impossible?!
"The game is lagging so bad in 1948. My pc won't make it into the 50's."
*Playing the clock on max speed*
I think I see the real issue. I'm fairly certain the Soviets could still be beaten though.
The Germans are literally manning their armies with paper napkins and dreams, they’re buggered mate
0:10 In Black ICE, Hungary is B tier, thanks to having a good focus tree.
Remember how the British Empire annexed the entirety of Andalusia after a small border skirmish between Francoist borderguards and the tens-of-thousands-strong Gibraltar Garrison? This mod is SO historically accurate!
Of course! That absolutely happened!
My pc would die on me after ‘44 lol and every year in game would be a month irl
I had to completely rebuild my computer earlier this year as my computer was literally dying, so now I can actually make it past 1945 xD First time ever
Would be cool for you to colab with someone in Black Ice with both of you using historical divisions for your respective countries.
That would be very cool!
Maybe play as italy and japan and help your AI Germany conquer the world
This mod is overwhelming. I'd love to see Black Ice Light Edition.
How the tables have turned
Now it's germany that was incompetent while italy absolutely kicked ass
That's what I was thinking
When Luxemburg Historical Suffering in HOI4´s Most Painful Mod?
(+World conquest ofc)
Love the BlackIce content. By far my most played mod and yet, I still haven’t had a successful Italy game… Keep it up man loving it!!!
Thank you so much!!
Next time you fight in the Egypt area, check out the bottleneck just north of Luxor. By fortifying just 3 tiles, you can lock up the entire southern border. If you combine this with forts in the Suez and El Alamein, you can reduce your entire land border in Egypt to just 6 tiles that you have to defend. With level 5 forts, and two divisions per tile, 12 good infantry divisions can hold on to Egypt for quite a long time. One of the 3 tiles in the south is also a mountain, which can help farm for the mountaineer trait, if you want to later try and invade the Caucasus, etc.😃
Awesome video! Almost tempted to try Black Ice again, but I know I’d regret it 😅
Don't dooo ittt 😢 Most people who drown it'd be because they overestimate their swimming abilities
@@JacobFraps 😅
DO OT! it’s honestly so fun once you can get into
Looks like the italians were onto something IRL
Well this timeline is broadly horrifying:
With Italian Competence the following has occurred:
- Massive unrecoverable Allied Losses with millions more dead than in our own timeline
- UK Sealion will result in an American Supported Government Ultimately as the european axis collapses (to the USSR)
- All of mainland Europe will fall under Soviet Influence with exception of Greece, Turkey and Iberia. With the likely scenario of the greek civil war ultimately succeeding in this timeline.
Oh and of course, Japan saw the destruction of much of asia, although they will inevitably surrender it's possible that we will not see a chinese civil war as the KMT was destroyed, which may lead to either a korean split of china once the USSR invades manchuria or potentially a china that comes under the exiled mao (or another character).
"Screw me. Oh, screw me further."
Ah, the real Italian experience.
Too true
Excellent content as always! How many hours of research do you normally do per black ice video? The attention to detail is incredible
Thanks! Maybe 8-20 hours depending on how obscure the info is!
It actually isn't that weird for a battleship to have a catapult on it, most ww2 Era battleships had a couple scout planes they could launch to help with aiming the guns.
You are indeed correct! I was mistaken while recording :P
@@Aldrahill No worries, brother. Keep up the good work! Love the BIce videos!
Love your content, keep up the good work
Yes sir, will do!
TH-cam does just not show me notifications for your vids :(
Also would love to see you try magna europa or autumn begonia
Oh no! Try disabling and re-enabling the bell icon! And yessir, they in the list!
Well i do wonder how this video will go...
I died at how you said Pietro Badoglio's name😂😂
It's pronounced like pee tario badoe glio right?
Next up, BICE Luxembourg
You know how looooong I've been waiting for this?
yay more black ice
5:01 funny thing is in ww2 the germans did infantry support MG
4:20 well it would be because it was laid down in 38, it was finished in 40, designed way before then
If it was truly historical they would have been making pizza instead of guns..
Black ice historically accurate tanno tuva when
Monster
@@Aldrahill hahahaha I know
I just did this exactly on HOI3... pain
Not ready for that Yorkshire slander
I knew I’d catch some people off guard with that one xD
Maybe Mussolini can get his Soviet armistice in this timeline? 🤔
08:40 the real reason why they put the black shirt legion into the regular division is because the Italian army high command realised that a binary division is a bad idea if they can't motorized it. So they got back to the old triangular.
Yeah but it’s not a full triangular!!! They’re shitty underequipped milita, and only two battalions!!
@@Aldrahill yes I know. Also North African Auto-Transport Division (Regular Infantry Division in North Africa) Don't have the black shirt legion and their artillery are fully motorized.
11:14 Um... Polish volunteers joining an Axis power? Would Mussolini accept this? Didn't mustache man want all the Poles to be Thanos snapped? How would he feel about this?
An MP Bice game sounds like a lot of fun. Fun in the sense that no one is gonna know what they’re doing
Bokoen made a few videos with it, can confirm it is a clusterfuck.
@ oh yeah the black ice videos are some of the best entertainment
Iirc italy had tankettes on the basis that they would be fighting the last war again, in the mountains, where larger tanks would be less effective
You didn't build MGs so of course your infantry defense sucks
The organisation of divisions in this mod is genuinely awful. I hate looking at a relatively normal infantry division with like 12 org
Dude it PAINS me! It hurts me so bad :(
Nice video
All aboard the Pizza Platoon
Thank you for all the time and effort making the content 👍 if you make an Italian video again in black ice . Can you do non historical and make Italy really strong or as strong as u can to see how powerful they could get?
Thank you!! Yeah I’d love to try this again and make better tanks and planes!
five speed looks painful
This WW2 was really the reverse of the real one.
Right? Every time I try to be historical…
Love your videos. I'm curious if u build carriers like bitter steel did lol
Oh gawd here I go watching someone drain their mental health again 😂
Welcome back to AI Cheats: The Mod
Can you play bulgaria ww1 and reform the Byzantine empire and if possible historic division
Paris has fallen in june 1940 Aldrahill ^^
True!
Yeeeeessss FINALLY!!!
Didn't most of historical Italy's tank supply basically amount to German tanks they were given?
Pretty much! After 41 they started making halfway decent ones though
I cant play HOI4 cuz i dont got it, but my god Italy?
You sure are ok?
Yeah no, I'm suffering xD
when world ablaze
Its on its way!!!
@@Aldrahill pls bbg
Aldrahill if you do blackice challenge add bitt3rsteel and legit burger and do a new challenge run in black ice with you in the veteran difficulty declare war on the whole world and try to conquer or survive (you can guys can do historical if you want) in Black Ice since i wanna see you 3 suffer such a good mod PLSSSSSSS i am begging do this.❤❤
Edit:for context you guys need to be playing as italy for the challenge just you 3 in veteran difficulty or nationalist china remember BLACK ICE MOD you to do it in the black ice difficulty veteran
do you have a link to the mod the one i have keeps saying its out of date
Daaaamn, Competente Italy & Japan with an incompetent Germany. How the tables have turned
The paaaain
You should do a black ice mod for Japan
Have you tried this mod with Finland?
I haven’t yet! Need to do historical finales in vanilla first!
I will only watch you play black ice
I make other things too ;)
Black ice Ethiopia wen? (whaaat could go wrong?)
Finalmente...
Black ice historical Luxembourg, Ethiopia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, when?
Oh my lawd
Can you try the Nationalist ROC on blackice mod?
YEA definitely gonna do that
Hey um its USA good as a starter nation in BICE? (I have played bice only 3 times)
It’s not bad! You get lots of time to build up and you can’t go wrong with the obscene industry!
@@Aldrahill thanks for responding and advice!
Whenever i played italy in BI, it always crash in 1940, oddly this didnt happen with other countries, can anyone help
Weird! It recently updated, maybe try the new patch?
The Campaign For North Africa when?
Now we talking!
@@Aldrahill Boiled Pasta, here we come!
try world ablaze
Definitely!
to be honest, I prefer BICE Italy over vanilla, just because of the horrid italy balance of power mechanic
... Why don't people like NATO unit symbology? it's so straightforward and easier to comprehend what's happening
I honestly love it ;) change it for videos for simplicity though
Too abstract
I hate it
I dont find them visually appealing
Do france now!
It's coming!
@@Aldrahill Cool
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Im broke :(......
Honestly, this mod is really overrated. There's so many issues with the historical accuracy and how some things are handled, especially with Italy. No planes in 1936, Turkey joining in 1943, the annexation of a state in Spain by the British? Stupid.
On another topic, you should branch into other mods! There's so many full conversions out there that you might find yourself really enjoying. Maybe you can bring your historical sense into them and try to accomplish certain goals? Sky is the limit.
Loved the video as always dude.
Definitely gonna be branching into more mods!!! Really excited to do that, gonna up the number of videos in a couple weeks to fit them in :)
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Я люблю игры которые добавляют 5000 абсолютно разных и непонятных механик и буквально не объясняют тебе ничего
But it’s intense and cool!