I really like your reviews on this engine. I ran across them while researching this motor. I look forward to more of them as you get more time on the motor. As stated by others, you can produce different amounts of horsepower from the same size engines, but I'm guessing this is the way Hangkai got their numbers. Horsepower is a unit of measurement of power developed by engineer James Watt in the late 18th century. Although its original purpose was to compare the output of steam engines with the power of horses (hence its name), it has since been adopted as a unit of measurement for all sorts of engines. Mechanical Horsepower, hp(I)-550 foot-pounds per second, approximately 745.7 watts. The most common definition of horsepower, mechanical horsepower is the horsepower James Watt invented in 1782. - 3.6 Mechanical Horsepower is equivalent to 2,684.520 Watts (2.68Kw). - Hangkai specs for this motor: 3.6HP 2.6KW 55cc
I agree with the overall quality of the Intex. I don’t go far in it and extra cautious. It’s very inexpensive, but also cheap! I’ll stick with it for another season, then check out your advice. Thanks
love the video, but there is no accurate way to convert cc to hp, by googling it. cc is a measure of displacement, and not a measurement of power output in any way at all.
Thanks for watching. Yes, unfortunately I didn't discover that until after I finished the video.... But none the less, no way it is 3.6 hp. However, that being said, I'm still very happy with it :0)
cc is just the engine size you could theoretically obtain just about any HP with any given cc. and 2 and 4 stroke engines with vary greatly as well. BTW good videos I may add. Very thorough. I was going to purchase one of those but instead decided to go with a 55 lb thrust electric trolling motor on mine.
Thanks for the info. Makes sense. But the motor isn't very powerful, but I'm having a lot of fun with tweaking the raft/motor as well as a little fishing. Something I haven't done in many years. Retirement, where every day is SATURDAY! Thanks for watching and helping educate us all. :0)
Hey @Boilerdan1, I have a question. I took my motor out last week and I tried my absolute best to keep the motor at the what I judged to be the half way mark of the throttle, in other words, from the extent to which the throttle turns, I turned it only half way. At some point, while the engine was on, I accidentally turned the throttle nearly to full and it sounded to me as though the motor didn't speed up, meaning it didn't sound like I was getting more RPMs during the brief few seconds that the throttle was nearly wide open. This makes me wonder... lets say for arguments sake that zero degrees is idle throttle, and just choosing an arbitrary number here, lets say ninety degrees is the full extent to which the throttle turns... that said would you say that half throttle was at 45 degrees? And by extension, that full throttle was at 90 degrees? I am just afraid that I may have been pushing my motor too hard during this break in period accidentally. In all, I probably ran the motor for a total of an hour and a half at absolute maximum, in bursts of 15-30 minutes. I hope I am getting my meaning across properly. Thanks again in advance.
I know exactly what you mean…. There’s very little variance of speed with this motor. I think what is more important is that you change speed as opposed to one constant rpm. My thought would be to throttle down to an idle for a few seconds, then throttle back up. Just very the speed from time to time. I wouldn’t be concerned about going full throttle as I think you almost have to, to engage the clutch system. So full speed ahead, and then just back it down and back up. The only way to go slow is to replace the clutch spring with a lighter one. Then you can throttle down and still have the propeller turn. So I’m thinking you can start going full speed for little bursts of time, even for 5 or 10 minutes at a time.
I just ordered this motor. I'm running a 24v 86lb thrust trolling motor on my jon boat, but I wanted a backup in case the batteries died. It looks like performance is about the same
I wish I could say that I’ve succeeded in improving the issue. But to date , no luck. The best thought I’ve had would be to add more motor support by securing some type of frame to the plywood floor. But that complicates set up. That has me considering a different raft that has a solid back plate already in place.... I’ll decide that this summer 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment on my video!
I can’t recommend the motor for trolling. There’s not really any muffler, the exhaust exits below the waterline, so it’s very loud under water. They offer a 4 cycle version that has a muffler. I don’t know much about it other than the exhaust is above water. Thanks for watching 👍
On a full tank of fuel it will run for over one hour. But you can add more fuel and keep running as long as you want. It’s best to run full speed after the break in time so that the clutch is fully engaged. That will cause less wear on the clutch so it will last longer. Thanks for watching 👍
In hindsight, I would have preferred the 4stroke. It has a muffler! The two stroke exhaust is below the water line so it’s a bit loud. You can lay the 2 stroke down because it doesn’t have an oil pan. I’ve not heard the 4 stroke running, but the 2 stroke is pretty loud. I also lost a lot of thrust on the raft because it spongy.
The website you used is calculating four stroke displacement versus horsepower. A better estimate is 15 to 17cc per horse power on average. If you use 17cc per hp, you come out with 3.2hp. I think they're going with 15cc per horse power and that comes out to 3.6hp. That being said, some of the videos I've seen using 12 foot jon boats have 6hp Merc's and Evinrudes on plane moving close to 20mph and the Hangkai 6hp looking very slow. I'd love to see one boat use each of the motors for a fair comparison of thrust and speed.
Yes, I've learned since making that video that I don't really know what the actual hp is. I'm very happy with the little motor, but it's not very powerful 😁 Thanks for watching and contributing to the conversation.
No packing seal. But since I posted this video the issue had gone away and I have run through a full tank of fuel with no problems. Thanks for taking the time to try and help.
I enjoyed my time with it…… however turning 72, and the local river was a bit risky for the rubber raft….. my family convinced me that it was time to move on….. I sold the entire set up. That being said, the motor itself has its challenges as I pointed out in several segments. But I would do it again if the price was cheap enough 😂. But if a serious boater, I think I would consider a used brand name unit. You’ll have to make a decision based on your budget and knowledge about working on small engines 👍👍. Thanks for watching ❤️
I’m not experienced with the electric motors, however I do think that if it were on a solid boat instead of a raft, the speed would be a lot better. However it’s a bit noisy, so it’s good for going from point A to B but too loud to use as a trolling motor. Thanks for watching 👍
Kind of….. mostly it’s the softness of the raft. I’ve not been able to correct that issue but I think it could be done by somehow securing the motor motor to the wooden floor. Or getting a more solid boat to put it on 👍
That hesitation at running speeds, is a small intermittent vapour lock condition caused by the hot air being circulated by the flywheel fan, warming up the carburetor, and vaporizing the fuel. I had the same issue with my motor. You are going to have to remove all that sound dampening insulation you installed, or it will completely shut down on a hot day, that added heat will prematurely wear out you clutch also.
Thanks for your advise and expertise. I have already removed the sound dampening foam, and the motor jumping had stopped. I also think part of it was a poor gas cap vent to relieve the vacuum in the tank. I appreciate your taking the time to watch, comment and provide guidance to us all.
@@BoilerDan1A bad fuel cap ventilation, can be a valid issue, as atmospheric pressure cannot equalize the gap in the tank as the Engine consumes the fuel, creating an obvious cavitation in the fuel system. I got Lucky with my cap, it was properly venting, but had a similar issue with an old chain saw, a few years ago.... I do know that many weed wackers, or other two stroke engines tend to have the carburetor, which is also the fuel pump, exposed outside of the engine shroud, with it's own well ventilated protection cover, as the Boling point of fuel is so low, and it turns into a vapour state quite easily, inadvertently preventing the pumping process. I found that using a higher octane fuel like 91 helps quite a bit too as it is more stable. I know that my old 1970 Skidoo snowmobile, starts to cough a bit if the engine runs too hot and heat soaks the Tolotson carburetor, then it runs a bit lean, and I have to be careful.... Well, all in all you seem to be getting by with this engine fairly well. I ran mine for years after I modified it to run with out the stupid covers, I always ran 30:1 oil to gas premix, and that engine refused to die, eventually I sold it still running perfectly, with my inflatable dingy and transome, even threw in a few spare clutches and a 30:1 ratio mixing bottle, I loved that little engine, but I wanted something I could troll with on the larger lakes, so I purchased an small plastic Sundolphin yacht tender, and a Parsun brand 4 stroke 2.6 outboard motor, no clutch to wear out, as it has an actual engagement gear, you could run it all day with out issue, the down side is that the motor is very heavy for a small unit. By the way, I absolutely love your PVC inflatable boat trailer, I need to build something like that for my boat, you should do a small U-tube video on that little masterpiece.👍
Brent Neves ; Thanks for your valuable input! I did make a TH-cam video on making the PVC Boat Dolly😂👍 Boat Dolly out of PVC Pipe th-cam.com/video/FJ23KSR2zxk/w-d-xo.html
I like your video review. If you want to measure your speed and your in a current, you can just measure speed going one direction, and then turn around and measure again. You relative to the water speed is in between.
Thanks! Good idea for sure. I'm hoping that this season will provide a little better thrust output. I think the clutch had been going out for a while, I've replaced it and late this spring I'll take it out and see if I can get a little more speed! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment and educate!
Yes, the pivot point is just below the handle. If you watch a few more of the videos I posted on the motor you can probably see where it pivots when I turn it. It’s a spot between the handle and the mounting hardware. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching 👍
They are available from any hardware store. Ask for hitch pins. You can also order from Amazon. Here’s a link to to a sample. I don’t remember what size I got but 2 1/2 inch is probably the one I used. No less than 2 inch. I think these are 2”: 10 Pcs Shaft Locking Pin Safety Coupler Pin 1/4 Inch Diameter in 2 Shapes of Square and Arch for Farm Trailers Wagons Lawn Hitches and Garden (Silver) by XBDZR www.amazon.com/dp/B08N4B45XM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_ZH4331XSH2X1NDF94QTB
I go on short trips so I don’t have a good answer for how long? I’d guess about 1 hour? I don’t know about the larger fuel tanks. Maybe a viewer can help with that question?
For a beginner like me, i think im gonna buy this hangkai motor. But i need your suggestions. I've been looking at 4HP 2 stroke hangkai brand and 3.6 hp like yours. You think which one is better? 4hp or 3.6hp? So far do you have any problem with your hangkai motor?
TheNickIsyraf ; I think the 4hp is 4 stroke motor. Advantage is you don’t have to mess with mixing 2cycle oil with the gas. It might have a little more power? It’s air cooled. Down side is that if you lay the motor down on its side oil can leak out or into the cylinder. I’m not sure which side you need to lay it on? But if you lay it correctly there won’t be a problem. Or if you can keep it upright. I went with the two stroke because I have to lay mine on its side a lot. Two cycle was less expensive and you’re always using clean oil. But if I didn’t always have to lay mine down, I’d have gone with the 4 stroke one. Might review all my videos and subscribe for new ones. I’ll be adding a new segment this fall with new suggestions.
@@BoilerDan1 thank you so much for the information. I already subscribed to your channel and i still learning how to operate the motor correctly by watching all of ur videos before i buy one. You helped alot. This engine will come with no gear oil right? That's mean i need to fill in the gear oil first before run the engine. Is it right?
TheNickIsyraf Correct, there will be no gear oil in the gear area down by the propeller. Also be careful not to over fill. There’s an a line etched that you fill to and it is a little below being totally full. Don’t over tighten the screws.... I did and stripped one by tightening too much. Just tighten to hold it together. The O ring seals the gear oil inside not a tighter screw.
@@BoilerDan1 hi, can you make a video or maybe help me by telling the details for a beginner like me what to do before run the engine in the water for the new engine unboxing. I mean how much 2 cycle oil should i mix with the gasoline, do i need to turn off or turn on the choke before start the engine, how long do i need to run the engine in the bucket water for the first time start the engine, and other things that you think important. I am about to buy hangkai 4HP 2 stroke because it is 74.6cc and 4HP 4 stroke only 52cc. I really hope that you can help me out because im still learning about this stuff. Thank you so much :)
I'm still unsure about loosening the gas cap? It does have a release valve so to speak built into it. I loosened it because in the initial running of the motor it would buck or kick sometimes and it does create a vacuum in the gas tank... But that might be normal? The bucking has been greatly reduced as I have put more run time on the motor.
yeah since adjusting the air mixture it is running just fine i was just wondering why you unscewed it mine is still bucking so i raised the prop to highest setting see what that does
I also would slow down when it happened. It really felt more like a fuel / air mixture problem and I didn't want too much stress on the motor. I'd slow down for just a little bit and then throttle back up. Mine rarely does it now, so give yours some time.
well dan took motor out this weekend she only bounced a couple times after having it on water for several hrs cant for aluminim prop to come in cant wait to try it
I must agree with other people who posted; there is no accurate conversion from cc's to hp. cc is cubic centimeters displacement and hp is the amount of work that can be extracted from the running engine and a unit of power equal to 550 foot-pounds per second (745.7 watts). To get the proper horsepower measurement, it would have to be hooked up to a dynamometer. Otherwise a great and informative video with very in depth look at how to properly initialize and break in the unit to prepare for actual everyday use.
I wish I had known about the cc's to hp not accurate before I posted the video... :0( but at least it's known it is not very powerful… Don't misunderstand, I'm very happy with the little motor, and it works fine on small lakes or ponds. Just not real strong to go upstream in moving water! Thanks for the overall positive review.
It's the Wabash river near a historical French fort named Fort Quiatenon. Growing up in the area, not many people venture out on the Wabash due to it usually has a brownish tent from I guess is clay soil. I was surprised by how nice it was once I got there! But the current is also swifter than I thought. There are a lot of log James at different places along the banks adding more concern for a raft. I hope to make a longer journey down the Tippecanoe river sometime this summer. It's clear water and more popular with kayak and canoe enthusiasts. Thanks for watching 😁
ZZCopter: I’m happy to provide an honest review. Glad it’s helpful. The odd sounds are from the metal type clutch system. It sounds worse than it is. I actually like the motor.... but I do admit, I only go upstream just in case something goes wrong! 😉... keep watching and I’ll keep updating my adventure with the motor 🤔
Did you manage to secure the engine mounts to the floor yet? I'd be most curious about that. Any more info about how that was supposed to be done? Any information on the matter would be appreciated. Thanks for the videos! Thanks a lot.
So far I've not made much attempt at a better solution,,, I took a ratchet type strap and looped it around the motor and then around the seat post that I have mounted to the floor. I was able to pull the motor upward that way... But with the raft being so flexible I still think I'm loosing thrust. Being mid-winter in Indiana, I haven't tried anything else yet. You would think I'd work on it..... But I'm escaping winter in Florida and failed to bring the raft along! :0) I'll update maybe in the late spring when I get it out again.
Thanks for watching, about to turn 70, and family didn’t want me going out on a motorized rubber raft in a river. We don’t have any lakes nearby so I agreed to sell it all. I will say that replacing the clutch tension spring helped a lot. I’d buy it all over again, but realize that it’s not good for trolling. Just from one location to another. The block I think is sound… it’s the add on stuff that you need to keep up on maintenance wise. I made several videos on my adventure, I hope they continue to help others 👍
@@themidlandsangler1005 If you know what you’re getting and what to expect and keep an eye on….. you’ll be fine! Plus you can easily sell it if you don’t like it. The guy that bought mine was familiar with the motor and he knew how to work on them. He was happy / I was happy 😃. Keep watching the videos for helpful hints…. Oh, and breaking the motor in can be done when using the motor. I received mine mid winter so I used a bucket… if you do that, be sure to keep running cool water in it. I kept adding snow 😂. Thanks again for watching 👍👍
I'm going to make a short update video and I'll include a launch. I'm going to drill two holes in the top tubes to let air escape. It's tended to float a bit when trying retrieve the raft upon landing. Thanks for watching. Subscribe and you'll get notice when I post the update...... So much rain and flooding this season, I've not gone out yet....
I actually show the raft being launched with the PVC trailer in a video titled "Hangkai 3.6 hp River run test & Review." It begins at about the 8 min 15 second spot in the 15 1/2 min video. Here is a direct link: th-cam.com/video/xqGVa8LDpSU/w-d-xo.html
Thanks, it’s nice to hear positive comments! The motor isn’t perfect but with experience and a little maintenance and willingness to tinker with it, it can be fun for sure!
nudohumanomex ; Do a TH-cam search of BoilerDan1 and you should find a list of my videos and one of them shows how I did it.... I’ll see if I can get you a direct link. If not I’ll get back to you later this week, I’m on a short vacation with out my computer 😊
nudohumanomex : Here’s the link to the video on making the floor. th-cam.com/video/Absc4KZU7xE/w-d-xo.html Someone suggested I use carpet tape and glue instead of staples to reduce risk of getting a hole in the raft.
Unfortunately not that I could figure out. I tried insulating the cover but it didn’t help. Plus it might hold in heat…. There’s no muffler, the exhaust is released below the water line that absorbs most of it…. But it still is about as loud as a lawn mower. It’ll get you from point A to B. Not good for trolling.
We visit Hilton Head a couple of times a year. Mostly in early fall. We branch out to surrounding areas from there. We even divert away from the Atlanta route to Florida to drive through the Carolina’s. Matter of fact will be in the area in mid January 😁👍
I've had a few comments on this topic. I admit that I'm confused! But I did find factual information from the company web site under the tab for "Product" It listed the following details: Two stroke water-cooling 3.6HP 55cc 10KG (weight of motor: 22.0462) 42CM If interested, here is the link: www.hang-kai.com/en/ Thanks for watching and commenting!
You can use the same fuel as your car. I got the highest grade hoping for less ethanol blended in. It runs fine with any grade but the ethanol blended fuels cause the fuel lines to break down faster. You can buy an additive to help reduce the effects of the ethanol. I found it at Walmart. Either automotive or maybe where the fishing/boating area is.
I don't think I was clear. For break-in you need to vary the speed. I totally agree with you that when running you need the to go fast enough to have the clutch either be engaged or totally on idle so not wear it out at the medium/low speed. I went out again today and it ran very smooth and I did keep it at either full speed or slightly under. Or idle... but I try not to idle long either. Thanks again for your thoughts and advise.
The motor turns completely around. There is no reverse, you just turn it so the handle is pointed backward, you have to steer by grabbing the motor housing and turning it. Maybe I will include showing that in my next video! Thanks for watching. Please subscribe if you haven't already.
It’s doing fine now that I replaced the clutch spring and clutch. However, I recently did sell the entire unit. Someone made me an offer that I couldn’t refuse 😁. They are much younger and will get more use out of it. So far they’ve not had any problems. Thanks for watching and I hope all the videos are still helpful 👍
I'm considering one of these motors. It did look like your boat was producing a lot of drag. I have a 15 foot Bris Inflatable Kayak and it is faster with a little 1.5 hp motor I have on it. I've had the Intex and ended up giving it away to some kids that like to float with no motor. Saturn and Bris and others make some great and affordable inflatables. I saw another video that did a test on the hp of the engine and the one they had only put out 1910 watts which is about 2.56 hp. I'm still unsure as to whether to try one.
I'm considering getting a better raft too! I'll check out the ones you mentioned. I'm sure I'd get better speed with a solid mount for the motor. Overall I'm happy with mine, but if you have watched all or most of my video's on it, I've had issues, but have been able to fix anything. The clutch is the weakest item, but I've put a better (less tight) spring on it and expect it to last longer. Changing it was not difficult and the part was in the $10 range. I would consider getting the 4 stroke model. It is totally air cooled eliminating the water pump system on the 2 stroke. Plus no mixing oil and gas. But you can't lay it on it's side the wrong way or oil will get into the cylinder. I haven't figured out which side you can lay it on. I'm sill having fun with mine, but again, there are little things to deal with for sure! Thanks for watching.
I have their 2 stroke 6 hp for a month or so now and I love it. Nothing about it feels cheaply made. I think they may use a lot better quality in their 6hp+ engines. It seems just like the Yamaha and mercury I've owned in the past.
That's good to know! Are you sure it's a two stroke? 2 stroke you mix oil with the fuel. 4 stroke they are separate. Either way it's good to hear a positive review. Thanks for watching!
You're welcome. Hopefully the water levels will come down soon, and I'll do a follow-up video of an full day journey down the Tippecanoe River. It'll be about a 25 mile trip, and a good test for the motor for season #2. Thanks for watching and taking the time to send you appreciation.
I'll give that a try later this spring. I might have reduced the sound for video quality? I don't remember if I did.... But going up stream is slow going. I'll post something if I get more speed. Thanks for watching.
I think the whirring sound is your clutch slipping. I solved this by replacing the worn out clutch and removing the clutch spring so the motor engaged the prop constantly. this gives better speed control and faster top speed. A Honda GX31 whipper slipper clutch fits.
Does it need to be genuine Honda part? I've found several both at eBay and Amazon. Or could I just remove the clutch spring on my current one? It's only been through about 12 hours break-in and once on the water for about 2 hours max.
Check the centre of each clutch shoe. See that it has not worn down to the steel. If ok just remove the spring. You might need to raise the idle speed a bit with the clutch spring less.
If I may. I would suggest you play with lighter springs or heavier clutch elements. That way it will engage sooner, burn and slip less. But will give you a clutch anyway, which is always good. I do recall on scooters fine tune the clutch that way. For increased weight. drill some holes and fill with machine screws. Or melt lead into it. ;-)
Desperately trying to buy this at Amazon but there saying that can’t be shipped to my address at 95829 Sacramento California so what should I do then? Thanks
There are several available on eBay in the just under $220 range . I’m not suggesting this seller but will add a link to get you started. I’d recommend reviewing the sellers rating and that they have a sales record of a lot of sales. eBay is similar to Amazon that they guarantee the product will be delivered. I noticed some sellers offer free shipping and reasonable delivery schedules. I purchased mine through eBay. I also don’t necessarily recommend the motor, I just documented my experience. I’d probably buy the 4 cycle version if I were starting over. But you can’t lay it on its side without removing the oil. Here’s a sample from eBay: www.ebay.com/itm/133396278198
dude this may be because of the California regulation... Maybe the seller didn't add it to the product, so it won't be shipped there. Check the "buy box" and check for other offers and try to buy from any other seller, maybe one of them added the CA regulation data to their offer!
I think that’s the better choice. Just don’t lay it on its side unless you remove the oil or it will get to the cylinder and foul up the spark plug. But it should be quieter with the exhaust muffler! Let me know what you think about it once it arrives 👍👍
Actually, the exhaust is at about the same depth as the propeller so yes it is underwater. At an idle, the exhaust comes out above the waterline, at the same point as the cooling water exit is at. If that is the area you are referring too, it is actually above the water line by a few inches. I've since been able to raise the motor a little more and you will see that in my next posting. Subscribe to follow along with the things I learn along the way. Thanks for watching.
The equation to calculate horsepower is simple: Horsepower = Torque x RPM / 5,252 Knowing this more then likely because it's a 2 stroke thus it spins faster then a 4 stroke aka higher rpm you have a small cc motor with a high HP What you all are thinking of in terms of get up and go is torque 4 stroke have 2 beat off the line to about 3/4 throttle Then a 2 stroke will hit its power band and pull away from a 4 stroke as 2 strokes run fast while 4 strokes get up and go In these small motors the seat of pants feeling given 2 difrent motors will be vary difrent but top speed will be about the same 7mph give or take a few
Yes, it’s a little loud, and the actual exhaust for the two stroke is under water. The four stroke engine has a muffler and might be a better choice but for total quiet go with electric. Thanks for watching 👍
hey brother how has this motor been for you? the hangkai, has it held up ? anything major wrong or has it been flawless for the price, and how many times have you used it ? thanks , great video by the way
The motor itself has been fine! But that isn't to say that there have not been issues. So if you don't mind working on it from time to time on the little extra things, then it was a good buy! To date, I have made 16 video's on several areas, documenting how the motor is doing. Here is a link that might let you see the topics. I'll summarize more below: LINK: th-cam.com/play/PLjMZtm2hvqrOIvLcah1u1V45Y_R-AKeqm.html Things I've repaired/replaced: Spark Plug, Fuel Lines, Clutch, Pull Starter. Each item, even replacing the clutch was not difficult. The clutch has too tight of a spring and in my opinion causes excess wear on it. I've replaced the spring with a lighter weight one and it seems to have helped. But that being said, you should plan on replacing it every other season depending on how often you use the motor. The fuel lines is possibly due to ethanol in the fuel. I use the highest grade fuel hoping it has less or no ethanol. I have just started putting an additive in the fuel that says it will counter the effects of ethanol in the fuel. I don't use mine all that often, mater of fact, this past summer I only went out one time, and that was when the clutch started slipping so much that I had to return to shore. The new spring has really helped, but it will take a season or two to confirm that. As far as the hours of use? Maybe 80 - 100 hours? I've not really kept track closely. Break in is very important, and it did buck in the beginning. I think that was because the vacuum release in the fuel cap was not working very well. That has cleared up, but at the time, I would loosen the fuel cap and that seemed to help. But now it runs fine with the fuel cap on tight. Thanks for watching.
horsepower isn't dictated by the displacement... The only way to measure the horsepower is by calculating the max RPM and torque of the engine... google is unable to do that...
@@BoilerDan1 That being said though, I am also skeptical of the HP claims of these motors... I bought a "4hp" from the same manufacturer and I'm a small engine mechanic... I see A LOT of 4hp motors, and Ive never seen one this small... I think the 3.6hp 2 stroke and the 4hp 4 stroke are both closer to 2hp, maybe 2.5 or so... I'm sure they are testing the engine without the bottom end to get a rating that high... or their just marketing it higher than it is... still decent for the price as long as you're not trying to go fast!
I'm a novice in the topic, just tinkering for fun! I'd like to try it on a light weight more solid craft, I just don't have the storage space...... I'll just keep puttering along. I'm considering an all day downstream adventure of I can convince my wife to drop me off about 15 miles upstream😊
@@BoilerDan1 I use the 4hp on a flat back canoe... doesnt have as much power as I want so looking at the 7hp version that seems like its probably closer to the advertised HP since its a 200cc motor (the "4hp" is like 50cc go figure..) theyre all decent for a canoe or dinghy to putter around or fish a lake, but where I am the river flows pretty fast so I want more powa... I was getting 7kph against the current, and 15kph with it.... Id like to see 15 against it with a real 4hp... good news is boat motors hold their resale pretty well where i am... so gonna pass the 4hp on to the next guy and go get the 7...
I can only show what the web produced. There are several comments regarding the low power of the motor. I'm fine with it as is, but it does seem less than 3.6 hp to me.
I know youve put a lot of work in that motor but just by the sound on it you can never trust that thing. I foresee some pattling in your future lol. On a side note have you checked out the saturn boats? They seem to be of better quality at not a whole lot more money. Im about to buy one myself with a 2.5 Suzuki.
I’ll check out the Saturn boats you mentioned as I’ve been thinking about replacing the one I have. As far as the motor goes, it’s becoming a challenge to see if I can keep it going 😂. So we will see how it goes. If it totally shuts down I’ll post that video too! Until then it’s either upstream or close to shore for me! 🤣 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Not busting your hump, but I wouldn't trust that inflatable with an engine. Additionally that style of inflatable pushes water out of it's way as opposed to cutting through it like a canoe or getting on plane with a proper boat. Check out my vids, to see how i did something similiar. Basically I bought a used Old Town Discovery Sport 15 and purchased a mud motor kit. 4 stroke engine sips gas and much more reliable. Although right turns are tricky... Originally I had a Briggs outboard but it was the wrong tool for running the rock bottomed rivers here. Cheers from New Jersey
I'll check it out! I have big storage space limitations. But I looked at your boat and being solid would be a big advantage. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. I'll check out yours now.
I now know that I was wrong... Thanks for taking a moment to educate the uninformed - me (0: I'm considering a better raft... I'll decide on that over the winter.... Need better support for the motor on the back end.
@@BoilerDan1 thanks for the review video on the motor. I'm thinking of buying one for back up on my 17ft mako incase anything happens that way I'd be able to putt back to the dock
@@tylerthomas3744 I have several video's on the motor. There are issues, but all have been minor, but a pain. Examples are the small things. Bad spark plug, poor quality fuel lines, a very weak clutch that I just changed out. The motor itself seems to be doing fine. So check out some of the other issues I've had so you know what you're getting into. But I think you are already more knowledgeable than I am on motors. I'm a beginner, but thought who better to document how the motor works out! Also a great retirement project for me to keep my brain active! :0)
50cc Motorcycles: Lightweight motorcycles with 50cc usually have 2-stroke engines that produce anywhere from 3 to 9 HP. However, some racing 50cc motorcycles can pack a punch, getting up to 15,000 rpm, with anywhere from 10 to 20 HP.
Hmm, not this little baby!😂 But I’m off on my calculations. Most of the problem is the squishy of the raft and it’s drag…. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment 👍
Problem with a 9 hp or 15 hp... Too much for my little raft. Part of the reason I went with the Hangkai 3.6 was to put on the small raft. But a good merc would be nice! Thanks for commenting and watching.
Conversion of displacement to HP is completely impossible via any form of calculator. I suspect that the calculator you used also assumed it was a 4stroke. 2stroke engines will produce more power per cc of displacement.
I think it varies by state. Indiana requires any motorized boat to be registered. Not the motor though, it's the boat that is registered. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
in the 1983 Honda released their Honda Beat 49cc water cooled 2 stroke moped, which, from the factory, made 7.2 horsepower. I think it was capable of 56mph with stock gearing, may have had to remove a restrictor of some kind preventing the vehicle from exceeding the 35mph imposed limit on mopeds/scooters
A electric trolling motor on a kayak would be a safer and more enjoyable rig. You could leave the kayak on top of your car.Kayaks,trolling motors and deep cycle batteries come in all price ranges. I had a Sears diehard 36lb thrust trolling motor move a 14 ft. Jon boat 3 times faster than that raft without noise. My push lawn mower sounds sounds better than that outboard after 10 years use. You might get the bugs out of that outboard,but air cooled outboards are to loud unless you go exspenive.
MOTO BOIS ; Yes, it’s not very fast... but also the clutch might have been a little worn, so some power might have been lost? I recently replaced the clutch.... see other videos I’ve posted. Thanks for watching
#1 NatsFan . Sorry I don’t have that specific information. I’ll check it out this summer. But I have gone for an hour or so without adding fuel, but I always take additional fuel with me.
Handle from Amazon. Link below. I’ve had a little trouble getting it to fit. Recently I put in a small wooden shim and that has worked pretty well. Pactrade Marine Boat Trolling Motor Telescopic Extension Handle Anodized Auminum 17"-25" www.amazon.com/dp/B074LGPMN4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_IJgREb6058MS3
Ha, 😂 that might be just the right name! But I've had a lot of fun with mine.... However, if you watch all the I've made about it you will see that I've done a lot of tinkering.... But the carcass itself seams to be good.... It's all the small stuff (Barnacles) that seem to be the problem. But once you scrape them off or replace them... Mines done fine! Thanks for watching! 👍
Just me but i dont think insulating the motor is a good idea. It will trap the heat inside. I could be wrong but i wouldnt chance overheating an air cooled motor.
Although I did leave all the vent areas open, I agree with you and recently had removed all the sound deadening padding. You were ahead of me. It really didn't change the noise level much if at all. But with all the vents open, I didn't have any overheating problems. But the area near the exhaust was a concern. I'll make a video update in the future explaining the end result and that I've removed it all. Thanks for the concern, watching and commenting. It will help others and me too!
I had a similar issue and it ended up being a bad spark plug. Also the 25:1 fuel oil mix is very oily so maybe when trying to start this time go 30:1 mix? If it’s already broken in, the fuel mixture is 50:1 and it won’t be so oil rich that can foul the spark plug.
Yes, but you must have the papers from the manufacturer to take to the state licensing branch to get the registration. That's only required if you are putting a motor on the raft.
It seems like if you ad a gas engine to any watercraft you need to register it. And in NJ if it's an electric motor greater than 1hp it must be registered as well... 😕
No motor registration here in Indiana. But the boat must be registered if you put any motor on it. So your canoe would need one, but not the motor.... Probably a little odd?
No storage space, so my slow little raft folds up and fits in a bag on a shelf! Obviously I’m not a great outdoorsman. But I’m sure having fun 😂. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
these videos are so great lol but Dan this outboard just isn't workin out for ya! Ethanol blended fuel does not gum up carburetor's, however using LOW octane, HIGH additive fuel from a non-top teir gas company definitely WILL. ALSO using low grade 2 stroke marine oil WILL. Use a synthetic type if it doesn't state otherwise that you should not. Just figure out the highest performing 2 stroke outboard oil and stick with that, as high performance often means smooth, clean performance. Then go ahead and run a lean mixture if you're finding a few different recommendations for this outboard, go with the leanest and use SUNOCO or SHELL 93 octane V-Power fuel! It is top teir, clean as can be and is the LEAST contaminated with crappy additives by FAR out of all other manufacturers. Do it regardless of if it says to do 87 octane or 91 octane or not, you want performance blended fuel or you're gonna end up with a lower true octane rating than what is stated. Trust me, this is what you want with 2 strokes. I've tried everything else instrumented testing. Also see if there's a throttle tube in the carburetor, if you shorten that slightly you can get around 4-5 hp. If they use said throttle tube. NON ethanol blended gasoline is only necessary if you're gonna put the engine away for a long time without bleeding it, often times, depending on where you go, comes at the MAJOR cost of performance, which is really unfortunate because it's a nice resource, just not well executed, and it won't ever be until the united states offers 106 octane or so at the pump and just charges an extra 15 cents! high compression engines are more efficient and it'll cost less in the end. Sick of this 87 octane bullshit, it's literal vodka folks are using! May as well be.
I haven't really had any major problems, just showing people along my journey. I do and have always used the highest octane and agree with you on Shell JVJ-Power but no station close. Phillips 66 highest grade is working out for me. I'm due to get some 2 stroke oil and will take your advise. I did the same with the spark plug. I'm hoping others will read your advise too. Thanks.
BoilerDan1 Awesome dan thanks for this awesome channel, Great reviews! When i said that the outboard wasn't working I was just basing my words on how fast the 2.5hp outboards go and suggesting maybe something was off with this Hangkai, I guess we'll find out soon enough then
I really think something was mixed up in the translation from Chinese to English. No way this is 3.6 HP. But the type raft I put it on isn't going for speed. Tomorrow I'm finally going to a small lake along with a passenger and full load of equipment. I'll get a good reading of the speed and hope to test out very inexpensive Fish Finder. I'm hoping for at least a depth reading! I'll make a short follow-up video on all of that in the near future. Thanks for all you comments. I'm sure all of this will help others trying out unusual ways of having a little summer fun!
Just bought this motor for 200 bucks .if it has its corks here and there so be it the cheapest 3 hp branded motor is a suzuki at 750 bucks .so this motor is well worth the money . First thing you do is chuck that crappy sparkplug and put in a ngk .
There are several contributing factors: The raft is to giving which allows the motor to dip. Thus wasting some of it's thrust. The raft itself isn't a design for speed and has a lot more drag than a hard shell boat. I had one viewer advise his is on a 10 foot light weight hard shell boat and it goes 8mph. Thanks for watching.
I think it would launch and pull out easier if you lowered the pvc platform to just a tiny bit higher than the wheels. Looks like the boat sits too high.
I had trouble with the motor dragging too. If I set the pvc platform to the back it works fine. The boat ramp was kind of shallow at the place I put in. But as the season progresses, I'll keep you thought in mind. I can easily chop off a couple of inches because that is the segment that isn't glued. Thanks for the idea! :0)
BoilerDan1 I thought about that after I posted. I came across your video because I need to make a cart myself. Im going to use an electric trolling motor and they are pretty light. So I think I’m just going to put it in the boat and mount it after launch.
hi plz use proper boat the boat u use its not compatible for any motor its called toy boat sorry dont mind later i send u my video with same motor with 330cm inflated boat give me 30 days coz now is fasting month any way thanks to read it
Calm and informative narration and filmed very well. Congratulations from France. Certainly looking forward to more of the same.
Thank you!👍
I really like your reviews on this engine. I ran across them while researching this motor. I look forward to more of them as you get more time on the motor.
As stated by others, you can produce different amounts of horsepower from the same size engines, but I'm guessing this is the way Hangkai got their numbers.
Horsepower is a unit of measurement of power developed by engineer James Watt in the late 18th century. Although its original purpose was to compare the output of steam engines with the power of horses (hence its name), it has since been adopted as a unit of measurement for all sorts of engines.
Mechanical Horsepower, hp(I)-550 foot-pounds per second, approximately 745.7 watts. The most common definition of horsepower, mechanical horsepower is the horsepower James Watt invented in 1782.
- 3.6 Mechanical Horsepower is equivalent to 2,684.520 Watts (2.68Kw).
- Hangkai specs for this motor: 3.6HP 2.6KW 55cc
I agree with the overall quality of the Intex. I don’t go far in it and extra cautious. It’s very inexpensive, but also cheap! I’ll stick with it for another season, then check out your advice.
Thanks
i have the same raft, you pimped your out really well.
Thanks 👍👍
love the video, but there is no accurate way to convert cc to hp, by googling it. cc is a measure of displacement, and not a measurement of power output in any way at all.
Thanks for watching. Yes, unfortunately I didn't discover that until after I finished the video.... But none the less, no way it is 3.6 hp. However, that being said, I'm still very happy with it :0)
Медный патрубок на выхлопе обмотай алюминием,звук станет много тише.
2 cycle engines put out about twice as much power as a 4 cycle the same size had a 400cc 2 cycle triple that would run with 750cc 4 cycle 4 cylinders
These little motors are capable of 12-15hp with a few mods!
@@jesusisalive3227 bullshit
You did a great review and nice smart upgrade with those moutings and isolation, thx
Thanks for watching, and taking the time to comment. 👍
cc is just the engine size you could theoretically obtain just about any HP with any given cc. and 2 and 4 stroke engines with vary greatly as well. BTW good videos I may add. Very thorough. I was going to purchase one of those but instead decided to go with a 55 lb thrust electric trolling motor on mine.
Thanks for the info. Makes sense. But the motor isn't very powerful, but I'm having a lot of fun with tweaking the raft/motor as well as a little fishing. Something I haven't done in many years. Retirement, where every day is SATURDAY!
Thanks for watching and helping educate us all. :0)
Hey @Boilerdan1, I have a question. I took my motor out last week and I tried my absolute best to keep the motor at the what I judged to be the half way mark of the throttle, in other words, from the extent to which the throttle turns, I turned it only half way. At some point, while the engine was on, I accidentally turned the throttle nearly to full and it sounded to me as though the motor didn't speed up, meaning it didn't sound like I was getting more RPMs during the brief few seconds that the throttle was nearly wide open. This makes me wonder... lets say for arguments sake that zero degrees is idle throttle, and just choosing an arbitrary number here, lets say ninety degrees is the full extent to which the throttle turns... that said would you say that half throttle was at 45 degrees? And by extension, that full throttle was at 90 degrees? I am just afraid that I may have been pushing my motor too hard during this break in period accidentally. In all, I probably ran the motor for a total of an hour and a half at absolute maximum, in bursts of 15-30 minutes. I hope I am getting my meaning across properly. Thanks again in advance.
I know exactly what you mean…. There’s very little variance of speed with this motor. I think what is more important is that you change speed as opposed to one constant rpm. My thought would be to throttle down to an idle for a few seconds, then throttle back up. Just very the speed from time to time. I wouldn’t be concerned about going full throttle as I think you almost have to, to engage the clutch system. So full speed ahead, and then just back it down and back up. The only way to go slow is to replace the clutch spring with a lighter one. Then you can throttle down and still have the propeller turn.
So I’m thinking you can start going full speed for little bursts of time, even for 5 or 10 minutes at a time.
I just ordered this motor. I'm running a 24v 86lb thrust trolling motor on my jon boat, but I wanted a backup in case the batteries died. It looks like performance is about the same
I think that’ll work fine. Or use it to get to the general area, then use your quiet electric for trolling.👍
Thanks for watching 👍👍
I enjoyed your vid. I especially liked the way you plan to fix the motor mount drag problem. Just might work. I'd love to see the results.
I wish I could say that I’ve succeeded in improving the issue. But to date , no luck. The best thought I’ve had would be to add more motor support by securing some type of frame to the plywood floor. But that complicates set up. That has me considering a different raft that has a solid back plate already in place.... I’ll decide that this summer 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment on my video!
It sounds pretty loud, does it quiet down after being warmed up? I was thinking bout getting one for trolling in my 9ft Colorado XT pontoon.
I can’t recommend the motor for trolling. There’s not really any muffler, the exhaust exits below the waterline, so it’s very loud under water.
They offer a 4 cycle version that has a muffler. I don’t know much about it other than the exhaust is above water.
Thanks for watching 👍
Hello. I have a 10ft John boat. I want to know where did you get that portable boat trailer from. Tsk
I made it myself! Here’s a link to my adventure in making it:
th-cam.com/play/PLjMZtm2hvqrMztz5HWhQr3DmtvIs6TbkK.html
Thanks for watching 👍
I Just see this video, thanks for.. the warnings, but i still whith 1 doubt, how many minutes, or hours i can used? Whithout stop?
On a full tank of fuel it will run for over one hour. But you can add more fuel and keep running as long as you want. It’s best to run full speed after the break in time so that the clutch is fully engaged. That will cause less wear on the clutch so it will last longer.
Thanks for watching 👍
I'm currently confused about whether to buy the 2-stroke 3.6 hp or 4-stroke 4 hp for the Intex Mariner 4. Which one do you think is better?
In hindsight, I would have preferred the 4stroke. It has a muffler! The two stroke exhaust is below the water line so it’s a bit loud. You can lay the 2 stroke down because it doesn’t have an oil pan. I’ve not heard the 4 stroke running, but the 2 stroke is pretty loud. I also lost a lot of thrust on the raft because it spongy.
amigo no tienes video de el motor eléctrico de 65 lbs
No, lo siento, el único motor que tengo es el motor de gasolina de 2 tiempos.
The website you used is calculating four stroke displacement versus horsepower.
A better estimate is 15 to 17cc per horse power on average.
If you use 17cc per hp, you come out with 3.2hp.
I think they're going with 15cc per horse power and that comes out to 3.6hp.
That being said, some of the videos I've seen using 12 foot jon boats have 6hp Merc's and Evinrudes on plane moving close to 20mph and the Hangkai 6hp looking very slow.
I'd love to see one boat use each of the motors for a fair comparison of thrust and speed.
Yes, I've learned since making that video that I don't really know what the actual hp is. I'm very happy with the little motor, but it's not very powerful 😁
Thanks for watching and contributing to the conversation.
Inside the petrol cap is there a packaging seal which you bin throw away if so that’s why There is no air getting to the petrol tank
No packing seal. But since I posted this video the issue had gone away and I have run through a full tank of fuel with no problems.
Thanks for taking the time to try and help.
dan : how's te hangkai working out? thanks for the video. bob
I enjoyed my time with it…… however turning 72, and the local river was a bit risky for the rubber raft….. my family convinced me that it was time to move on….. I sold the entire set up.
That being said, the motor itself has its challenges as I pointed out in several segments. But I would do it again if the price was cheap enough 😂. But if a serious boater, I think I would consider a used brand name unit. You’ll have to make a decision based on your budget and knowledge about working on small engines 👍👍. Thanks for watching ❤️
It looks to be a lot more powerful than a 24v Minn Kota at full speed. Would you agree?
I’m not experienced with the electric motors, however I do think that if it were on a solid boat instead of a raft, the speed would be a lot better. However it’s a bit noisy, so it’s good for going from point A to B but too loud to use as a trolling motor.
Thanks for watching 👍
@@BoilerDan1 Thank you for the reply & heads up about the noise.
You’re welcome,, it’s nice to hear back from people watching 😁👍
Thanks for your review. Happy fishing
Have you sorted out the thrust issue with the motor dragging? What would you suggest
Kind of….. mostly it’s the softness of the raft. I’ve not been able to correct that issue but I think it could be done by somehow securing the motor motor to the wooden floor. Or getting a more solid boat to put it on 👍
That hesitation at running speeds, is a small intermittent vapour lock condition caused by the hot air being circulated by the flywheel fan, warming up the carburetor, and vaporizing the fuel. I had the same issue with my motor. You are going to have to remove all that sound dampening insulation you installed, or it will completely shut down on a hot day, that added heat will prematurely wear out you clutch also.
Thanks for your advise and expertise. I have already removed the sound dampening foam, and the motor jumping had stopped. I also think part of it was a poor gas cap vent to relieve the vacuum in the tank.
I appreciate your taking the time to watch, comment and provide guidance to us all.
@@BoilerDan1A bad fuel cap ventilation, can be a valid issue, as atmospheric pressure cannot equalize the gap in the tank as the Engine consumes the fuel, creating an obvious cavitation in the fuel system. I got Lucky with my cap, it was properly venting, but had a similar issue with an old chain saw, a few years ago.... I do know that many weed wackers, or other two stroke engines tend to have the carburetor, which is also the fuel pump, exposed outside of the engine shroud, with it's own well ventilated protection cover, as the Boling point of fuel is so low, and it turns into a vapour state quite easily, inadvertently preventing the pumping process. I found that using a higher octane fuel like 91 helps quite a bit too as it is more stable. I know that my old 1970 Skidoo snowmobile, starts to cough a bit if the engine runs too hot and heat soaks the Tolotson carburetor, then it runs a bit lean, and I have to be careful....
Well, all in all you seem to be getting by with this engine fairly well. I ran mine for years after I modified it to run with out the stupid covers, I always ran 30:1 oil to gas premix, and that engine refused to die, eventually I sold it still running perfectly, with my inflatable dingy and transome, even threw in a few spare clutches and a 30:1 ratio mixing bottle, I loved that little engine, but I wanted something I could troll with on the larger lakes, so I purchased an small plastic Sundolphin yacht tender, and a Parsun brand 4 stroke 2.6 outboard motor, no clutch to wear out, as it has an actual engagement gear, you could run it all day with out issue, the down side is that the motor is very heavy for a small unit.
By the way, I absolutely love your PVC inflatable boat trailer, I need to build something like that for my boat, you should do a small U-tube video on that little masterpiece.👍
Brent Neves ; Thanks for your valuable input! I did make a TH-cam video on making the PVC Boat Dolly😂👍 Boat Dolly out of PVC Pipe th-cam.com/video/FJ23KSR2zxk/w-d-xo.html
I like your video review. If you want to measure your speed and your in a current, you can just measure speed going one direction, and then turn around and measure again. You relative to the water speed is in between.
Thanks! Good idea for sure. I'm hoping that this season will provide a little better thrust output. I think the clutch had been going out for a while, I've replaced it and late this spring I'll take it out and see if I can get a little more speed!
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment and educate!
Does anyone know if it pivots up on the mount out of the water
Yes, the pivot point is just below the handle. If you watch a few more of the videos I posted on the motor you can probably see where it pivots when I turn it. It’s a spot between the handle and the mounting hardware. Hope that helps!
Thanks for watching 👍
@@BoilerDan1 that's exactly what I needed to hear thanks man really helpful videos about it hopefully have one in a week or two 👍👍👍
Where did you buy the clips
They are available from any hardware store. Ask for hitch pins. You can also order from Amazon. Here’s a link to to a sample. I don’t remember what size I got but 2 1/2 inch is probably the one I used.
No less than 2 inch.
I think these are 2”:
10 Pcs Shaft Locking Pin Safety Coupler Pin 1/4 Inch Diameter in 2 Shapes of Square and Arch for Farm Trailers Wagons Lawn Hitches and Garden (Silver) by XBDZR www.amazon.com/dp/B08N4B45XM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_ZH4331XSH2X1NDF94QTB
Can you run a line from a seperate gas tank to the motor instead of filling it in the motor every time? Also how long did the the gas last?
I go on short trips so I don’t have a good answer for how long? I’d guess about 1 hour? I don’t know about the larger fuel tanks. Maybe a viewer can help with that question?
For a beginner like me, i think im gonna buy this hangkai motor.
But i need your suggestions. I've been looking at 4HP 2 stroke hangkai brand and 3.6 hp like yours. You think which one is better? 4hp or 3.6hp? So far do you have any problem with your hangkai motor?
TheNickIsyraf ;
I think the 4hp is 4 stroke motor. Advantage is you don’t have to mess with mixing 2cycle oil with the gas. It might have a little more power? It’s air cooled. Down side is that if you lay the motor down on its side oil can leak out or into the cylinder. I’m not sure which side you need to lay it on? But if you lay it correctly there won’t be a problem. Or if you can keep it upright. I went with the two stroke because I have to lay mine on its side a lot.
Two cycle was less expensive and you’re always using clean oil.
But if I didn’t always have to lay mine down, I’d have gone with the 4 stroke one. Might review all my videos and subscribe for new ones. I’ll be adding a new segment this fall with new suggestions.
@@BoilerDan1 thank you so much for the information. I already subscribed to your channel and i still learning how to operate the motor correctly by watching all of ur videos before i buy one. You helped alot.
This engine will come with no gear oil right? That's mean i need to fill in the gear oil first before run the engine. Is it right?
TheNickIsyraf Correct, there will be no gear oil in the gear area down by the propeller. Also be careful not to over fill. There’s an a line etched that you fill to and it is a little below being totally full. Don’t over tighten the screws.... I did and stripped one by tightening too much. Just tighten to hold it together. The O ring seals the gear oil inside not a tighter screw.
@@BoilerDan1 thank you sir. I really appreciate it. :)
@@BoilerDan1 hi, can you make a video or maybe help me by telling the details for a beginner like me what to do before run the engine in the water for the new engine unboxing. I mean how much 2 cycle oil should i mix with the gasoline, do i need to turn off or turn on the choke before start the engine, how long do i need to run the engine in the bucket water for the first time start the engine, and other things that you think important. I am about to buy hangkai 4HP 2 stroke because it is 74.6cc and 4HP 4 stroke only 52cc. I really hope that you can help me out because im still learning about this stuff. Thank you so much :)
i noticed dan you unscrewed the gas cap a little bit do you need to do this to run motor
I'm still unsure about loosening the gas cap? It does have a release valve so to speak built into it. I loosened it because in the initial running of the motor it would buck or kick sometimes and it does create a vacuum in the gas tank... But that might be normal? The bucking has been greatly reduced as I have put more run time on the motor.
yeah since adjusting the air mixture it is running just fine i was just wondering why you unscewed it mine is still bucking so i raised the prop to highest setting see what that does
I also would slow down when it happened. It really felt more like a fuel / air mixture problem and I didn't want too much stress on the motor. I'd slow down for just a little bit and then throttle back up. Mine rarely does it now, so give yours some time.
well dan took motor out this weekend she only bounced a couple times after having it on water for several hrs cant for aluminim prop to come in cant wait to try it
I must agree with other people who posted; there is no accurate conversion from cc's to hp. cc is cubic centimeters displacement and hp is the amount of work that can be extracted from the running engine and a unit of power equal to 550 foot-pounds per second (745.7 watts). To get the proper horsepower measurement, it would have to be hooked up to a dynamometer. Otherwise a great and informative video with very in depth look at how to properly initialize and break in the unit to prepare for actual everyday use.
I wish I had known about the cc's to hp not accurate before I posted the video... :0( but at least it's known it is not very powerful… Don't misunderstand, I'm very happy with the little motor, and it works fine on small lakes or ponds. Just not real strong to go upstream in moving water!
Thanks for the overall positive review.
where is this river? really pretty scenery , all that matters is that you can get out there and be happy and serene
It's the Wabash river near a historical French fort named Fort Quiatenon. Growing up in the area, not many people venture out on the Wabash due to it usually has a brownish tent from I guess is clay soil. I was surprised by how nice it was once I got there!
But the current is also swifter than I thought. There are a lot of log James at different places along the banks adding more concern for a raft. I hope to make a longer journey down the Tippecanoe river sometime this summer. It's clear water and more popular with kayak and canoe enthusiasts.
Thanks for watching 😁
Sorry for the auto correct... James should have read jams.
Thanks for the video with sound.. Now I know I wont buy such a motor. The gears are just crying "kill me now" :-D
ZZCopter: I’m happy to provide an honest review. Glad it’s helpful. The odd sounds are from the metal type clutch system. It sounds worse than it is. I actually like the motor.... but I do admit, I only go upstream just in case something goes wrong! 😉... keep watching and I’ll keep updating my adventure with the motor 🤔
BoilerDan1 I think I am better on the way with a used brand motor like Mercury, Johnson, Yamaha...
Did you manage to secure the engine mounts to the floor yet? I'd be most curious about that. Any more info about how that was supposed to be done? Any information on the matter would be appreciated. Thanks for the videos! Thanks a lot.
So far I've not made much attempt at a better solution,,, I took a ratchet type strap and looped it around the motor and then around the seat post that I have mounted to the floor. I was able to pull the motor upward that way... But with the raft being so flexible I still think I'm loosing thrust. Being mid-winter in Indiana, I haven't tried anything else yet. You would think I'd work on it..... But I'm escaping winter in Florida and failed to bring the raft along! :0) I'll update maybe in the late spring when I get it out again.
best sound deadening is ear plugs for motor and wife
yeah but the fish don't cooperate
Any updates on the motor does it still run?
Thanks for watching, about to turn 70, and family didn’t want me going out on a motorized rubber raft in a river. We don’t have any lakes nearby so I agreed to sell it all. I will say that replacing the clutch tension spring helped a lot. I’d buy it all over again, but realize that it’s not good for trolling. Just from one location to another. The block I think is sound… it’s the add on stuff that you need to keep up on maintenance wise. I made several videos on my adventure, I hope they continue to help others 👍
@@BoilerDan1 thanks for the reply Might have to invest 🤣👌
@@themidlandsangler1005 If you know what you’re getting and what to expect and keep an eye on….. you’ll be fine! Plus you can easily sell it if you don’t like it. The guy that bought mine was familiar with the motor and he knew how to work on them. He was happy / I was happy 😃.
Keep watching the videos for helpful hints…. Oh, and breaking the motor in can be done when using the motor. I received mine mid winter so I used a bucket… if you do that, be sure to keep running cool water in it. I kept adding snow 😂.
Thanks again for watching 👍👍
Can you make a video on your launching wheel / trailer system?
I'm going to make a short update video and I'll include a launch.
I'm going to drill two holes in the top tubes to let air escape. It's tended to float a bit when trying retrieve the raft upon landing.
Thanks for watching. Subscribe and you'll get notice when I post the update...... So much rain and flooding this season, I've not gone out yet....
I actually show the raft being launched with the PVC trailer in a video titled "Hangkai 3.6 hp River run test & Review." It begins at about the 8 min 15 second spot in the 15 1/2 min video. Here is a direct link: th-cam.com/video/xqGVa8LDpSU/w-d-xo.html
Great job with the video, got some helpful ideas. Norm
Thanks, it’s nice to hear positive comments! The motor isn’t perfect but with experience and a little maintenance and willingness to tinker with it, it can be fun for sure!
great video thanks for sharing, im building a proyect like your, could you tell me how did you fabricated the floor of your boat?
nudohumanomex ;
Do a TH-cam search of BoilerDan1 and you should find a list of my videos and one of them shows how I did it.... I’ll see if I can get you a direct link. If not I’ll get back to you later this week, I’m on a short vacation with out my computer 😊
nudohumanomex :
Here’s the link to the video on making the floor. th-cam.com/video/Absc4KZU7xE/w-d-xo.html
Someone suggested I use carpet tape and glue instead of staples to reduce risk of getting a hole in the raft.
th-cam.com/video/Absc4KZU7xE/w-d-xo.html
Excellent job!
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment 👍👍
Any way to make it quiet?
Unfortunately not that I could figure out. I tried insulating the cover but it didn’t help. Plus it might hold in heat…. There’s no muffler, the exhaust is released below the water line that absorbs most of it….
But it still is about as loud as a lawn mower. It’ll get you from point A to B.
Not good for trolling.
@@BoilerDan1 thank you for your reply
2nd Hilton Head shirt I've seen you in; I'm just north in Charleston...
I just heard you say Indiana in another video so never mind lol
We visit Hilton Head a couple of times a year. Mostly in early fall. We branch out to surrounding areas from there. We even divert away from the Atlanta route to Florida to drive through the Carolina’s. Matter of fact will be in the area in mid January 😁👍
If the HP calculator you used was for 4 stroke motors, then the 3.6 HP for your 2 stoke is quite accurate.
I've had a few comments on this topic. I admit that I'm confused! But I did find factual information from the company web site under the tab for "Product" It listed the following details:
Two stroke water-cooling
3.6HP
55cc
10KG (weight of motor: 22.0462)
42CM
If interested, here is the link:
www.hang-kai.com/en/
Thanks for watching and commenting!
What fuel do you use?
You can use the same fuel as your car. I got the highest grade hoping for less ethanol blended in. It runs fine with any grade but the ethanol blended fuels cause the fuel lines to break down faster.
You can buy an additive to help reduce the effects of the ethanol. I found it at Walmart. Either automotive or maybe where the fishing/boating area is.
I enjoyed your reviews of this little motor. I'd guess you won't ever be boarded by the coast guard.
Nope, they would blow by me so fast, they wouldn't even see me! (0;
Thanks for watching!
I’d avoid part throttle on these motors, it will wear out the clutch... Wide open or idle
I don't think I was clear. For break-in you need to vary the speed. I totally agree with you that when running you need the to go fast enough to have the clutch either be engaged or totally on idle so not wear it out at the medium/low speed. I went out again today and it ran very smooth and I did keep it at either full speed or slightly under. Or idle... but I try not to idle long either. Thanks again for your thoughts and advise.
Yep the clutch is the weak link.
Would you be so kind to explain how the reverse works?
The motor turns completely around. There is no reverse, you just turn it so the handle is pointed backward, you have to steer by grabbing the motor housing and turning it. Maybe I will include showing that in my next video!
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hows the engine holding up now, thx!!!!!
It’s doing fine now that I replaced the clutch spring and clutch. However, I recently did sell the entire unit. Someone made me an offer that I couldn’t refuse 😁. They are much younger and will get more use out of it. So far they’ve not had any problems. Thanks for watching and I hope all the videos are still helpful 👍
I'm considering one of these motors. It did look like your boat was producing a lot of drag. I have a 15 foot Bris Inflatable Kayak and it is faster with a little 1.5 hp motor I have on it. I've had the Intex and ended up giving it away to some kids that like to float with no motor. Saturn and Bris and others make some great and affordable inflatables. I saw another video that did a test on the hp of the engine and the one they had only put out 1910 watts which is about 2.56 hp. I'm still unsure as to whether to try one.
I'm considering getting a better raft too! I'll check out the ones you mentioned. I'm sure I'd get better speed with a solid mount for the motor. Overall I'm happy with mine, but if you have watched all or most of my video's on it, I've had issues, but have been able to fix anything. The clutch is the weakest item, but I've put a better (less tight) spring on it and expect it to last longer. Changing it was not difficult and the part was in the $10 range. I would consider getting the 4 stroke model. It is totally air cooled eliminating the water pump system on the 2 stroke. Plus no mixing oil and gas. But you can't lay it on it's side the wrong way or oil will get into the cylinder. I haven't figured out which side you can lay it on. I'm sill having fun with mine, but again, there are little things to deal with for sure!
Thanks for watching.
I have their 2 stroke 6 hp for a month or so now and I love it. Nothing about it feels cheaply made. I think they may use a lot better quality in their 6hp+ engines. It seems just like the Yamaha and mercury I've owned in the past.
That's good to know! Are you sure it's a two stroke? 2 stroke you mix oil with the fuel. 4 stroke they are separate. Either way it's good to hear a positive review. Thanks for watching!
@@BoilerDan1 lol yea man I'm sure it's a 2
@@BoilerDan1 their 4 stroke is a 6.5 hp
I didn’t know they made a 2 stroke in the bigger motor! Good to know, Thanks 👍
@@BoilerDan1 do u have the motor on an intex Mariner4??
What is your height and weight?
A little short and a little too heavy, I’ll just say, fat and happy!
Thanks for the review video.
You're welcome. Hopefully the water levels will come down soon, and I'll do a follow-up video of an full day journey down the Tippecanoe River. It'll be about a 25 mile trip, and a good test for the motor for season #2.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to send you appreciation.
10 hr break in ?! Holy crap !!!!
You can do the break in while using the motor. Just don't go full speed, and change your speeds from time to time.
Why does it sound like it’s at half throttle 🤔 I’m sure there’s some carburetor adjustments needed
I'll give that a try later this spring. I might have reduced the sound for video quality? I don't remember if I did.... But going up stream is slow going. I'll post something if I get more speed.
Thanks for watching.
Got one of these for free the other day. It will push my 12 foot aluminum at 8 mph. But its stupid loud.
Yes, noise is the down side.... But free is good!
Thanks for watching!
I think the whirring sound is your clutch slipping. I solved this by replacing the worn out clutch and removing the clutch spring so the motor engaged the prop constantly. this gives better speed control and faster top speed. A Honda GX31 whipper slipper clutch fits.
I'll check that out. Thanks!
Does it need to be genuine Honda part? I've found several both at eBay and Amazon. Or could I just remove the clutch spring on my current one? It's only been through about 12 hours break-in and once on the water for about 2 hours max.
Check the centre of each clutch shoe. See that it has not worn down to the steel. If ok just remove the spring. You might need to raise the idle speed a bit with the clutch spring less.
Thanks, I'll check it out.
If I may. I would suggest you play with lighter springs or heavier clutch elements. That way it will engage sooner, burn and slip less. But will give you a clutch anyway, which is always good. I do recall on scooters fine tune the clutch that way. For increased weight. drill some holes and fill with machine screws. Or melt lead into it. ;-)
Desperately trying to buy this at Amazon but there saying that can’t be shipped to my address at 95829 Sacramento California so what should I do then? Thanks
There are several available on eBay in the just under $220 range . I’m not suggesting this seller but will add a link to get you started. I’d recommend reviewing the sellers rating and that they have a sales record of a lot of sales. eBay is similar to Amazon that they guarantee the product will be delivered. I noticed some sellers offer free shipping and reasonable delivery schedules. I purchased mine through eBay.
I also don’t necessarily recommend the motor, I just documented my experience.
I’d probably buy the 4 cycle version if I were starting over. But you can’t lay it on its side without removing the oil.
Here’s a sample from eBay:
www.ebay.com/itm/133396278198
dude this may be because of the California regulation... Maybe the seller didn't add it to the product, so it won't be shipped there. Check the "buy box" and check for other offers and try to buy from any other seller, maybe one of them added the CA regulation data to their offer!
Thanks, I did it & got one at eBay 4stroke 4hp
I think that’s the better choice. Just don’t lay it on its side unless you remove the oil or it will get to the cylinder and foul up the spark plug. But it should be quieter with the exhaust muffler! Let me know what you think about it once it arrives 👍👍
@@BoilerDan1 Thank you so much for your advice, I’ll keep it in mind
Hi, the exhaust is underwater ? Thank
Actually, the exhaust is at about the same depth as the propeller so yes it is underwater. At an idle, the exhaust comes out above the waterline, at the same point as the cooling water exit is at. If that is the area you are referring too, it is actually above the water line by a few inches. I've since been able to raise the motor a little more and you will see that in my next posting. Subscribe to follow along with the things I learn along the way.
Thanks for watching.
No worries glad the problem solved
The equation to calculate horsepower is simple: Horsepower = Torque x RPM / 5,252
Knowing this more then likely because it's a 2 stroke thus it spins faster then a 4 stroke aka higher rpm you have a small cc motor with a high HP
What you all are thinking of in terms of get up and go is torque 4 stroke have 2 beat off the line to about 3/4 throttle
Then a 2 stroke will hit its power band and pull away from a 4 stroke as 2 strokes run fast while 4 strokes get up and go
In these small motors the seat of pants feeling given 2 difrent motors will be vary difrent but top speed will be about the same 7mph give or take a few
Thanks for explaining, and for watching 👍👍
thankyou love it
It’s not without issues and not for everyone. That being said, I had fun with it. But I always went upstream just in case 😂👍
seems very loud? Maybe not the best trolling engine because of this?
Yes, it’s a little loud, and the actual exhaust for the two stroke is under water. The four stroke engine has a muffler and might be a better choice but for total quiet go with electric.
Thanks for watching 👍
Trolling motors are electric for that reason
hey brother how has this motor been for you? the hangkai, has it held up ? anything major wrong or has it been flawless for the price, and how many times have you used it ? thanks , great video by the way
The motor itself has been fine! But that isn't to say that there have not been issues. So if you don't mind working on it from time to time on the little extra things, then it was a good buy! To date, I have made 16 video's on several areas, documenting how the motor is doing. Here is a link that might let you see the topics. I'll summarize more below:
LINK: th-cam.com/play/PLjMZtm2hvqrOIvLcah1u1V45Y_R-AKeqm.html
Things I've repaired/replaced:
Spark Plug, Fuel Lines, Clutch, Pull Starter.
Each item, even replacing the clutch was not difficult. The clutch has too tight of a spring and in my opinion causes excess wear on it. I've replaced the spring with a lighter weight one and it seems to have helped. But that being said, you should plan on replacing it every other season depending on how often you use the motor. The fuel lines is possibly due to ethanol in the fuel. I use the highest grade fuel hoping it has less or no ethanol. I have just started putting an additive in the fuel that says it will counter the effects of ethanol in the fuel.
I don't use mine all that often, mater of fact, this past summer I only went out one time, and that was when the clutch started slipping so much that I had to return to shore. The new spring has really helped, but it will take a season or two to confirm that.
As far as the hours of use? Maybe 80 - 100 hours? I've not really kept track closely. Break in is very important, and it did buck in the beginning. I think that was because the vacuum release in the fuel cap was not working very well. That has cleared up, but at the time, I would loosen the fuel cap and that seemed to help. But now it runs fine with the fuel cap on tight.
Thanks for watching.
To improve your tracking and 2x4 on bottom of the hard deck
Thanks
horsepower isn't dictated by the displacement... The only way to measure the horsepower is by calculating the max RPM and torque of the engine... google is unable to do that...
Thanks for your input. You're correct, I stand corrected!
@@BoilerDan1 That being said though, I am also skeptical of the HP claims of these motors... I bought a "4hp" from the same manufacturer and I'm a small engine mechanic... I see A LOT of 4hp motors, and Ive never seen one this small... I think the 3.6hp 2 stroke and the 4hp 4 stroke are both closer to 2hp, maybe 2.5 or so... I'm sure they are testing the engine without the bottom end to get a rating that high... or their just marketing it higher than it is... still decent for the price as long as you're not trying to go fast!
I'm a novice in the topic, just tinkering for fun! I'd like to try it on a light weight more solid craft, I just don't have the storage space...... I'll just keep puttering along. I'm considering an all day downstream adventure of I can convince my wife to drop me off about 15 miles upstream😊
@@BoilerDan1 I use the 4hp on a flat back canoe... doesnt have as much power as I want so looking at the 7hp version that seems like its probably closer to the advertised HP since its a 200cc motor (the "4hp" is like 50cc go figure..) theyre all decent for a canoe or dinghy to putter around or fish a lake, but where I am the river flows pretty fast so I want more powa... I was getting 7kph against the current, and 15kph with it.... Id like to see 15 against it with a real 4hp... good news is boat motors hold their resale pretty well where i am... so gonna pass the 4hp on to the next guy and go get the 7...
The site for the cc you used is rong I
I can only show what the web produced. There are several comments regarding the low power of the motor. I'm fine with it as is, but it does seem less than 3.6 hp to me.
ok
i dont think its 3.6 but if the site was true my 10 hp yamaha was a 4 hp so thats a kind a strange thats why i think
but the motor works good?
I know youve put a lot of work in that motor but just by the sound on it you can never trust that thing. I foresee some pattling in your future lol. On a side note have you checked out the saturn boats? They seem to be of better quality at not a whole lot more money. Im about to buy one myself with a 2.5 Suzuki.
I’ll check out the Saturn boats you mentioned as I’ve been thinking about replacing the one I have. As far as the motor goes, it’s becoming a challenge to see if I can keep it going 😂. So we will see how it goes. If it totally shuts down I’ll post that video too! Until then it’s either upstream or close to shore for me! 🤣
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Not busting your hump, but I wouldn't trust that inflatable with an engine. Additionally that style of inflatable pushes water out of it's way as opposed to cutting through it like a canoe or getting on plane with a proper boat. Check out my vids, to see how i did something similiar.
Basically I bought a used Old Town Discovery Sport 15 and purchased a mud motor kit. 4 stroke engine sips gas and much more reliable. Although right turns are tricky...
Originally I had a Briggs outboard but it was the wrong tool for running the rock bottomed rivers here.
Cheers from New Jersey
I'll check it out! I have big storage space limitations. But I looked at your boat and being solid would be a big advantage. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. I'll check out yours now.
You cant judge the horsepower by cc. A 125cc 2 stroke makes near triple the hp of a 125cc four stroke depending on the manufacturer
I now know that I was wrong... Thanks for taking a moment to educate the uninformed - me (0:
I'm considering a better raft... I'll decide on that over the winter.... Need better support for the motor on the back end.
@@BoilerDan1 thanks for the review video on the motor. I'm thinking of buying one for back up on my 17ft mako incase anything happens that way I'd be able to putt back to the dock
@@tylerthomas3744
I have several video's on the motor. There are issues, but all have been minor, but a pain. Examples are the small things. Bad spark plug, poor quality fuel lines, a very weak clutch that I just changed out. The motor itself seems to be doing fine. So check out some of the other issues I've had so you know what you're getting into. But I think you are already more knowledgeable than I am on motors. I'm a beginner, but thought who better to document how the motor works out!
Also a great retirement project for me to keep my brain active! :0)
@@BoilerDan1 I will check out your other videos. Thanks
50cc Motorcycles:
Lightweight motorcycles with 50cc usually have 2-stroke engines that produce anywhere from 3 to 9 HP. However, some racing 50cc motorcycles can pack a punch, getting up to 15,000 rpm, with anywhere from 10 to 20 HP.
Hmm, not this little baby!😂 But I’m off on my calculations. Most of the problem is the squishy of the raft and it’s drag….
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Dude put everyone to shame at the boat ramp
Return and get a yammy or
merc/tohatzu lol A used 9.9 or 15 goes for a litte more than a new henkai good vid
Problem with a 9 hp or 15 hp... Too much for my little raft. Part of the reason I went with the Hangkai 3.6 was to put on the small raft. But a good merc would be nice! Thanks for commenting and watching.
You can't put a 9hp motor on that Intex lol 😂😂😂😂😂
Conversion of displacement to HP is completely impossible via any form of calculator.
I suspect that the calculator you used also assumed it was a 4stroke. 2stroke engines will produce more power per cc of displacement.
Thanks, I appreciate your feedback and knowledge. Thanks for watching and providing helpful information 👍
A Honda CRF50F (50cc engine) makes 3.1hp
on crancshaft, but outboard are mesured on prop
I dont think you actually have to register it unless its 10hp or over, which is why 9.9 hp is so common
I think it varies by state. Indiana requires any motorized boat to be registered. Not the motor though, it's the boat that is registered.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
a Honda is 5 times the price will last 10 times as long ear plugs optional unless wife is on board
in the 1983 Honda released their Honda Beat 49cc water cooled 2 stroke moped, which, from the factory, made 7.2 horsepower. I think it was capable of 56mph with stock gearing, may have had to remove a restrictor of some kind preventing the vehicle from exceeding the 35mph imposed limit on mopeds/scooters
55cc=1.5hp; that would seem to line up. The Yamaha 2.5hp 4 stroke is 85cc.
If that’s the case it was just a lucky guess on my part! I’d love the Yamaha 😎. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. 👍
A electric trolling motor on a kayak would be a safer and more enjoyable rig. You could leave the kayak on top of your car.Kayaks,trolling motors and deep cycle batteries come in all price ranges.
I had a Sears diehard 36lb thrust trolling motor move a 14 ft. Jon boat 3 times faster than that raft without noise.
My push lawn mower sounds sounds better than that outboard after 10 years use.
You might get the bugs out of that outboard,but air cooled outboards are to loud unless you go exspenive.
Insight and advice is always a good thing. Thanks for participating. It might just help someone out there who’s trying to decide.
Wouldn't work on a 15ft v hull john boat
My raft had a lot of drag, so I’ve always wondered if it would work better on a solid frame?
You cant accurately convert cc to hp
Exactly
We're you going full speed
MOTO BOIS ; Yes, it’s not very fast... but also the clutch might have been a little worn, so some power might have been lost?
I recently replaced the clutch.... see other videos I’ve posted.
Thanks for watching
@@BoilerDan1 yes sir !
gracias
ok gracias amigo
roughly how long does that motor run before it runs out of gas?
#1 NatsFan . Sorry I don’t have that specific information. I’ll check it out this summer. But I have gone for an hour or so without adding fuel, but I always take additional fuel with me.
where did you get the handle extension?
Handle from Amazon. Link below. I’ve had a little trouble getting it to fit. Recently I put in a small wooden shim and that has worked pretty well. Pactrade Marine Boat Trolling Motor Telescopic Extension Handle Anodized Auminum 17"-25" www.amazon.com/dp/B074LGPMN4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_IJgREb6058MS3
nice thanks for sharing
Bangkai in Indonesian means carcass. Just thought that was an interesting factoid.
Ha, 😂 that might be just the right name! But I've had a lot of fun with mine.... However, if you watch all the I've made about it you will see that I've done a lot of tinkering.... But the carcass itself seams to be good.... It's all the small stuff (Barnacles) that seem to be the problem. But once you scrape them off or replace them... Mines done fine! Thanks for watching! 👍
Just me but i dont think insulating the motor is a good idea. It will trap the heat inside. I could be wrong but i wouldnt chance overheating an air cooled motor.
Although I did leave all the vent areas open, I agree with you and recently had removed all the sound deadening padding. You were ahead of me. It really didn't change the noise level much if at all. But with all the vents open, I didn't have any overheating problems. But the area near the exhaust was a concern. I'll make a video update in the future explaining the end result and that I've removed it all. Thanks for the concern, watching and commenting. It will help others and me too!
Carl Hopkins I agree
I would say their 10hp electric motor is pretty close to 3.5hp gas
A lot of advantages to that (In hindsight)!
Thanks for sharing.👍👍
You were going faster than my Yamaha 2.5 lol
Mine wont start
I had a similar issue and it ended up being a bad spark plug.
Also the 25:1 fuel oil mix is very oily so maybe when trying to start this time go 30:1 mix?
If it’s already broken in, the fuel mixture is 50:1 and it won’t be so oil rich that can foul the spark plug.
You get the registration from the state, geeez.
Yes, but you must have the papers from the manufacturer to take to the state licensing branch to get the registration. That's only required if you are putting a motor on the raft.
It seems like if you ad a gas engine to any watercraft you need to register it. And in NJ if it's an electric motor greater than 1hp it must be registered as well... 😕
No motor registration here in Indiana. But the boat must be registered if you put any motor on it. So your canoe would need one, but not the motor.... Probably a little odd?
I think the current is faster than the motor
Ha, your probably correct! I always go upstream and what takes an hour going up, only takes about 10 minutes coming back 😂.
Thanks for watching 👍
Bro get you a 10 ft v bottom aluminum boat more sturdy and will go much faster coz it will cut thru the water much easier
No storage space, so my slow little raft folds up and fits in a bag on a shelf! Obviously I’m not a great outdoorsman. But I’m sure having fun 😂.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Sorry, the CC to HP Calculator ist BS.
I had a motorcyle with more then 64 HP and oly 350cc an other one I had had also 350cc and only about 26 HP
So it probably is close to 3.6 hp
these videos are so great lol but Dan this outboard just isn't workin out for ya!
Ethanol blended fuel does not gum up carburetor's, however using LOW octane, HIGH additive fuel from a non-top teir gas company definitely WILL. ALSO using low grade 2 stroke marine oil WILL. Use a synthetic type if it doesn't state otherwise that you should not. Just figure out the highest performing 2 stroke outboard oil and stick with that, as high performance often means smooth, clean performance. Then go ahead and run a lean mixture if you're finding a few different recommendations for this outboard, go with the leanest and use SUNOCO or SHELL 93 octane V-Power fuel! It is top teir, clean as can be and is the LEAST contaminated with crappy additives by FAR out of all other manufacturers. Do it regardless of if it says to do 87 octane or 91 octane or not, you want performance blended fuel or you're gonna end up with a lower true octane rating than what is stated. Trust me, this is what you want with 2 strokes. I've tried everything else instrumented testing. Also see if there's a throttle tube in the carburetor, if you shorten that slightly you can get around 4-5 hp. If they use said throttle tube. NON ethanol blended gasoline is only necessary if you're gonna put the engine away for a long time without bleeding it, often times, depending on where you go, comes at the MAJOR cost of performance, which is really unfortunate because it's a nice resource, just not well executed, and it won't ever be until the united states offers 106 octane or so at the pump and just charges an extra 15 cents! high compression engines are more efficient and it'll cost less in the end. Sick of this 87 octane bullshit, it's literal vodka folks are using! May as well be.
I haven't really had any major problems, just showing people along my journey. I do and have always used the highest octane and agree with you on Shell JVJ-Power but no station close. Phillips 66 highest grade is working out for me. I'm due to get some 2 stroke oil and will take your advise. I did the same with the spark plug. I'm hoping others will read your advise too.
Thanks.
BoilerDan1 Awesome dan thanks for this awesome channel, Great reviews!
When i said that the outboard wasn't working I was just basing my words on how fast the 2.5hp outboards go and suggesting maybe something was off with this Hangkai, I guess we'll find out soon enough then
I really think something was mixed up in the translation from Chinese to English. No way this is 3.6 HP. But the type raft I put it on isn't going for speed. Tomorrow I'm finally going to a small lake along with a passenger and full load of equipment. I'll get a good reading of the speed and hope to test out very inexpensive Fish Finder. I'm hoping for at least a depth reading! I'll make a short follow-up video on all of that in the near future.
Thanks for all you comments. I'm sure all of this will help others trying out unusual ways of having a little summer fun!
Just bought this motor for 200 bucks .if it has its corks here and there so be it the cheapest 3 hp branded motor is a suzuki at 750 bucks .so this motor is well worth the money . First thing you do is chuck that crappy sparkplug and put in a ngk .
You’re off to a good start!
Seems like it should be much quicker for a 3.6 hp
There are several contributing factors: The raft is to giving which allows the motor to dip. Thus wasting some of it's thrust. The raft itself isn't a design for speed and has a lot more drag than a hard shell boat. I had one viewer advise his is on a 10 foot light weight hard shell boat and it goes 8mph.
Thanks for watching.
I think it would launch and pull out easier if you lowered the pvc platform to just a tiny bit higher than the wheels. Looks like the boat sits too high.
I had trouble with the motor dragging too. If I set the pvc platform to the back it works fine. The boat ramp was kind of shallow at the place I put in. But as the season progresses, I'll keep you thought in mind. I can easily chop off a couple of inches because that is the segment that isn't glued. Thanks for the idea! :0)
BoilerDan1 I thought about that after I posted. I came across your video because I need to make a cart myself. Im going to use an electric trolling motor and they are pretty light. So I think I’m just going to put it in the boat and mount it after launch.
hi plz use proper boat the boat u use its not compatible for any motor its called toy boat sorry dont mind later i send u my video with same motor with 330cm inflated boat give me 30 days coz now is fasting month
any way thanks to read it
I look forward to your advise on better boat! Yes mine is cheap and not for any rough use. Just for fun.
1.2 hp engine it is. This is a waste of money and thanks for the review.