The homepoint and drone are moving because the GNSS soloution is poor and the software is trying to keep them static by applying a correction. There reaches a point where the GNSS info is discarded as trash and the IMU/other sensor info takes over (when the quality or other conflicting info passes DJI's threshold) this is the "impact" where the drone is brought quickly to a stop. Because of how quickly that happens it looks like a impact.
So flying a mavic 3 enterprise right, not in RTK mode... did you have set to use all satellite systems on its settings? Might it just have been a glitch with the drone, there has been some high solar activity recently (and coming over next few days in fact). Have you logged with DJI and sent the logs across for them to diagnose to see if a fault with your drone or shed some light on it?
Good questions. However, Finland is being hit hard with GNSS jamming by the Russians. It mostly affects higher altitudes, but by the sea, many drone operators are experiencing interference. But this was very strange
I agree something looks fishy here, you may have accidentally flown through a microwave link from a tower to tower connection. I have seen interference, but nothing this severe. Thanks for the video. Be safe.
If it was a microwave link, this should be easily replicated by flying in the exact same place, same altitude and all that. Then move a few meters and do a similar flight.
Could it be a high altitude strait line wind that caused the movement of the drone. Is it in any way connected to you loosing GPS? I hope you get it sorted out someday. Thanks for sharing.
I had the same issue, I had 16 sats locked at take off. Mavic 3 pro went into Atti mode while in fliget I was flying it back when the signal completely dropped and the drone went down into the water. Something is up.
Thanks Marcus. This was an afterthought too, but I’ve spoken to a few drone operators over the last few days and they have experienced the same issue, on the coastline. I’ve flown 45 flights since this incident and it’s been fine. This is no glitch. It’s the Russians for sure 🤨
Solar flares are deflected by the upper atmosphere (Northern Lights are the manifestations of this) There would not be any significant effects at ground level for an object the size of a drone.
I had same problem between 2 restricted zones here in Finland. Drone lost all satellites, home point run into the sea and drone followed it. Barelly could stop it. Drone wont fly forward or backward. Only sideways. Dji mini 3 pro. In the same area friends drone got the same problem, but went to the forest. We found out that it is only hits when you rise above 30 meters. 😢
I had a similar thing happen when i was on Cyprus, gps told me im in Libanon ;). I had to check before my flights where in the world "i am". Also had one flight wich started off normal, but 10 min in i got "No gps signal, fly with caution".
Maybe coincidence but there are roofers on the building at 4:42. I had someone fire a nailgun at a drone while doing a 3D scan once. needless to say the guy didn't need to turn up for work the next day. I couldn't believe someone could be so stupid.
Isn't this a case of what the passenger airliners are suffering from daily these days? Russian GPS jamming that's been going on for the last 2 years, Finnair has stopped flyingt to certain destinations in the Baltics even due to this.
Look at your sat counts, you gain a lot of satellites without and lose several just as quickly. Your nominative satellite count looks low as well, it should be closer to at least 16 GPS sats with an open view of the sky in good weather. It is probable that a combination of systems that both block and spoof GPS were active. It is also probable that these systems sweep or perdicially widen their beam path and signal strength as part of their operation. Most GPS receivers do not discriminate GPS signals based on angle, they will accept signals below the horizon as equally as those from slightly or well above the horizon, so all someone would need to do is have a ground based broadcast station to wreak havoc on systems that depend on GNSS. Jamming/spoof systems are low radio frequency, the GNSS signals they override and mimic are weak to begin with, so jammers/spoofers can operate at a good distance away with lowish power. That means there's a strong chance the signal interference/spoofing is Russian if you were proximal to the Baltic region. However, that does not mean there wouldn't be local implementations of GNSS jamming/spoofing that were being tested. Those would usually have some sort of NOTAM, though, unless they were illicit. There are military exercises in the US that will deploy GNSS inhibiting equipment, usually a NOTAM is issued with expected affected ranges from the exercise/testing.
My guess would be that the movement is the drone reacting to the rapidly shifting gnss location, trying to follow it, untill it realized something ain't right. I haven't seen this exact thing happend, but i've seen drones do some wonky things with low quality gnss location.
Looking at the place you were flying at, you have a large power station (i.e. critical infrastructure) not to far to the west of your location. Almosy directly east of you (to the left from your drone) is a major military base, although some distance away, yet with direct line of sight. Pure speculation here, could it have been some kind of puls weapon protecting the power station. Yeah, I know, I'll put my tinfoil hat back on and no more science fiction movies for me.
I'm no expert but I've had my sensor come on just from the sun . It could be the sudden impact could be from the sensors thinking there's obstacles All around so it stopped suddenly as to avoid collision
❤ Great video, I first noticed the GNSS come up on my screen for the first time yesterday. Moved my takeoff point which didn’t have as much cover and all was well. Great channel, I have subscribed to help support your channel also. All the best, Trevor @flywithmetrevor 😊
could of been a blue bottle or bee or wasp hit the gimbal. this could also be a cause of the home point drifting. the resonance from the bee or wasp or whatever interferes and wallops the gimbal...all pure speculation.
A depressed bumble 🐝 ending it's life. It certainly looks like something knocked the drone but they are testing jamming equipment got a notification from the caa a few weeks ago regarding this. But surely jamming would stop the drone being able to fly in attitude mode wouldn't be a deterrent.could just be glitch buddy when a drone takes a bump the gps can go a bit crazy for a few seconds while it gets it's bearings I take it no damage to any props?
The homepoint and drone are moving because the GNSS soloution is poor and the software is trying to keep them static by applying a correction.
There reaches a point where the GNSS info is discarded as trash and the IMU/other sensor info takes over (when the quality or other conflicting info passes DJI's threshold) this is the "impact" where the drone is brought quickly to a stop. Because of how quickly that happens it looks like a impact.
So flying a mavic 3 enterprise right, not in RTK mode... did you have set to use all satellite systems on its settings? Might it just have been a glitch with the drone, there has been some high solar activity recently (and coming over next few days in fact). Have you logged with DJI and sent the logs across for them to diagnose to see if a fault with your drone or shed some light on it?
Good questions. However, Finland is being hit hard with GNSS jamming by the Russians. It mostly affects higher altitudes, but by the sea, many drone operators are experiencing interference.
But this was very strange
But Russia sounds a bit cooler.
@@FlybyGuys AH right, wasn't aware where you were flying. Dodgy
Russians interfering with GPS. They have done it a lot in Estonia.
Very true.
I agree something looks fishy here, you may have accidentally flown through a microwave link from a tower to tower connection. I have seen interference, but nothing this severe. Thanks for the video. Be safe.
Thanks Cliff.
If it was a microwave link, this should be easily replicated by flying in the exact same place, same altitude and all that.
Then move a few meters and do a similar flight.
Usually with jamming you lose control and cannot use it at all, its more likely to do with the weather.
Could it be a high altitude strait line wind that caused the movement of the drone. Is it in any way connected to you loosing GPS? I hope you get it sorted out someday. Thanks for sharing.
I’m open to all possibilities at the moment, Ron. Thanks 😊
If the drone lost the gps that might be reason for the slight wobble before it figures out that the signal is lost and goes into aero mode.
You have a good point, Magnus. Thanks for the comment. Much appreciated.
@@FlybyGuys the only thing is it doesn't account for the object showing as a "line" coming in from the left hand side
I had the same issue, I had 16 sats locked at take off. Mavic 3 pro went into Atti mode while in fliget I was flying it back when the signal completely dropped and the drone went down into the water. Something is up.
Thank you for sharing Stephen. My guess is some sort of internal issue in the drone. I'd be tempted to send it back to DJI for a work up.
Thanks Marcus. This was an afterthought too, but I’ve spoken to a few drone operators over the last few days and they have experienced the same issue, on the coastline. I’ve flown 45 flights since this incident and it’s been fine.
This is no glitch. It’s the Russians for sure 🤨
Solar flare? Any reported activity at that time?
Nope. The Russians were very active it seems.
Solar flares are deflected by the upper atmosphere (Northern Lights are the manifestations of this) There would not be any significant effects at ground level for an object the size of a drone.
I had same problem between 2 restricted zones here in Finland. Drone lost all satellites, home point run into the sea and drone followed it. Barelly could stop it. Drone wont fly forward or backward. Only sideways. Dji mini 3 pro. In the same area friends drone got the same problem, but went to the forest. We found out that it is only hits when you rise above 30 meters. 😢
Good video Stephen
Thanks Lyn
Stephen I done a flight over SLC headquarters Hamilton. The drone went crazy luckily managed to get it back but it was an unknown
No flight restrictions in place, but as soon as I went back. Total control over the drone
ATTI mode is vital to learn to fly.
Stephen I take all drones I fly inside spaces I shouldn't at times, but it's the same experience
@@FlybyGuys yes, and sports mode if sensors are seeing things that dont exist
it was something physical, a dark blur moves from left to right straight down - it looks like something came from left and slightly behind
That’s the gimbal being forced to see the bottom of the drone by the jolt.
@@FlybyGuys it moved left to right at the same time the sensors showed
@@steve903 Bitds don’t attack from below or the side. They attack from above.
@@FlybyGuys no no it was a spectre he means !! attacking from left to right.... (sorry joke)
What was the kp index like on that flight 😊
KP was normal. The Russians were jamming it seems.
There's high solar flare activity at the moment.
I had a similar thing happen when i was on Cyprus, gps told me im in Libanon ;). I had to check before my flights where in the world "i am". Also had one flight wich started off normal, but 10 min in i got "No gps signal, fly with caution".
where were you flying in Cyprus im going tomorrow. Any tips for flying? thanks!
Just had same problem in cyprus
Maybe coincidence but there are roofers on the building at 4:42. I had someone fire a nailgun at a drone while doing a 3D scan once. needless to say the guy didn't need to turn up for work the next day. I couldn't believe someone could be so stupid.
Oh my 😬
Isn't this a case of what the passenger airliners are suffering from daily these days? Russian GPS jamming that's been going on for the last 2 years, Finnair has stopped flyingt to certain destinations in the Baltics even due to this.
This is wild 😮
That’s an understatement, Eddie 😂
Look at your sat counts, you gain a lot of satellites without and lose several just as quickly. Your nominative satellite count looks low as well, it should be closer to at least 16 GPS sats with an open view of the sky in good weather. It is probable that a combination of systems that both block and spoof GPS were active. It is also probable that these systems sweep or perdicially widen their beam path and signal strength as part of their operation. Most GPS receivers do not discriminate GPS signals based on angle, they will accept signals below the horizon as equally as those from slightly or well above the horizon, so all someone would need to do is have a ground based broadcast station to wreak havoc on systems that depend on GNSS. Jamming/spoof systems are low radio frequency, the GNSS signals they override and mimic are weak to begin with, so jammers/spoofers can operate at a good distance away with lowish power. That means there's a strong chance the signal interference/spoofing is Russian if you were proximal to the Baltic region. However, that does not mean there wouldn't be local implementations of GNSS jamming/spoofing that were being tested. Those would usually have some sort of NOTAM, though, unless they were illicit. There are military exercises in the US that will deploy GNSS inhibiting equipment, usually a NOTAM is issued with expected affected ranges from the exercise/testing.
Wow, that situation was crazy 🤪. I’ll be interested in hearing your final results and outcome.
Oh man, I need help with this 🤣
Have you looked at the flight logs yet. They can tell you the telemetry.
Flight logs don’t give anything away. The video shows more, so I’m glad I screen recorded it.
My guess would be that the movement is the drone reacting to the rapidly shifting gnss location, trying to follow it, untill it realized something ain't right.
I haven't seen this exact thing happend, but i've seen drones do some wonky things with low quality gnss location.
That’s one of the strangest things I’ve seen so far in drones. 💯 not a bird but I too look forward to seeing what people think it was 😎😎😎😎
For me, this is peak ‘I don’t know what has happened’.
Let’s see if anyone else can shed light on it.
Looking at the place you were flying at, you have a large power station (i.e. critical infrastructure) not to far to the west of your location.
Almosy directly east of you (to the left from your drone) is a major military base, although some distance away, yet with direct line of sight.
Pure speculation here, could it have been some kind of puls weapon protecting the power station.
Yeah, I know, I'll put my tinfoil hat back on and no more science fiction movies for me.
I'm no expert but I've had my sensor come on just from the sun . It could be the sudden impact could be from the sensors thinking there's obstacles All around so it stopped suddenly as to avoid collision
You would not see a hit if it was an air rifle pellet
I would have heard the pop of the air rifle if that was the case
❤ Great video, I first noticed the GNSS come up on my screen for the first time yesterday. Moved my takeoff point which didn’t have as much cover and all was well. Great channel, I have subscribed to help support your channel also. All the best, Trevor @flywithmetrevor 😊
Thank you.
@@FlybyGuys Anytime. Literally only just discovered your channel today, not sure why I haven’t seen it before : p
Brief EMP pulse?
I have not ruled it out 🫣
Yes it's 100% not a bird maybe a large Insect but that doesn't explain the home point moving 🤔 Aliens are amongst us 😮
Haha. I was waiting for the alien comment 😂
could of been a blue bottle or bee or wasp hit the gimbal. this could also be a cause of the home point drifting. the resonance from the bee or wasp or whatever interferes and wallops the gimbal...all pure speculation.
A depressed bumble 🐝 ending it's life. It certainly looks like something knocked the drone but they are testing jamming equipment got a notification from the caa a few weeks ago regarding this. But surely jamming would stop the drone being able to fly in attitude mode wouldn't be a deterrent.could just be glitch buddy when a drone takes a bump the gps can go a bit crazy for a few seconds while it gets it's bearings I take it no damage to any props?
The drone is fine. No damage at all. Not a scratch.
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