you said it looks like a 90s indie guitar and you definitely go and play it like a 90s indie guy. I really enjoyed your playing. I need them to get on and make the Squier version, I need to confirm it can also "metal" , plenty to wait for on this cool shaped guitar.
Agreed. 1k is a stupid price for this. The only people rushing to buy at that price are Fender fanboys…a demographic that is smaller now than it was 20 years ago, and will be even smaller in another 20 if Fender doesn’t come to their senses on QC and prices in general.
That would be great, but these have nearly the same specs as ultra/ultra luxe guitars (I have an ultra luxe strat, which I'd also say is also overpriced), so comparatively, they're priced well.
I'm back and forth personally about what I think of tonewoods but what I am sure of is that the way the guitar feels in your hands in really important. I've had a Pau Ferro board for about 4 years now and no matter what I do, it is always very dry. It's the only Pau Ferro I've ever had so I don't know if it's an indicator of all these but good lord is it always thirsty.
I have this exact one in the Cosmic Jade as well. Really cool guitar, feels great sitting or standing, sounds great. Mine has an iffy 3way switch where I get complete volume cutouts at times. I need to just take that in and get it changed out which should be a cheap fix. I'm not a huge fan of the Pau Fero fretboard also, though I don't put much stock in the tone debate regarding fretboard wood, it's just an aesthetic choice that isn't my favorite but it wasn't a dealbreaker for me clearly.
i can possibly see tonewood having some effect on the sound if the vibratory qualities of the woods somehow alters the vibrations of the strings that the pickups interact with. having said that for me the fretboard woods is an aesthetic choice mainly.
Jeremy I think you secretly wanted a debate, so I'm going reductive: a pickup cannot make ANY sound unless there is a vibrating string (under tension) fixed across materials that have a fundamental resonance? Change the materials (wood or otherwise) you change the resonance. More subtle on an electric but there all the same. 💥
After owning a mim tele and playing a pair of mim strats, I won’t be buying this at 1,049 USD. If I see one brand new for 700, maybe…but at that point, I might as well wait for a Squier version at 400. I also find it hilarious that all the shops in my area only have the green finish and they’re collecting dust. Like they somehow thought the silver burst and blue finishes wouldn’t sell, so they bought a couple extra green. Just another sign that I don’t need it.
Tends to happen to new designs historically. Definitely not something you expect to hold value because Fender's designs historically flopped initially before getting a resurgence decades later. I'm just going to be happy being a first generation player of these things, never letting mine go.
I think the metatora has fileld out finders offset lineup, with the humuchers. Jags and JM's with humbuckers always looked weird to me. it fills a niche that the jag or JM didn't fill. Jags have the strat like pickups, JM's have their own pickups, the meteora fills the humbucker part of that.
Tonewoods don't matter. I've played great guitars that were pine and some really crappy, big-dollar "tonewood" guitars. I will say that regardless of the wood there's a certain mojo that happens when an electric guitar just rings out when it's not plugged in. It just sounds better somehow. They play better, too. I've heard many other players I know, and some famous ones (Brad Whitford of Aerosmith comes to mind), say the same thing. Meteora's are fantastic and definitely on my wish list. Probably not in the green metal flake. lol More of a nice tobacco burst. I don't have a problem with +$1K for a quality MIM, and what you said about how the Classic Vibes are now the "MIM" is exactly what I've been saying for a while.
I think the MOST that tonewood could do on an electric is the body. Less dense vs more dense changing how it resonates or sustains. On a board, eh it’s about color
thanks Jeremy I think while they look real odd they’re super sick, i’m thinking of picking one up after this and throwing some phat cats on it instead of dealing with jazzmaster woes
I have a metallic green Meteora and really like it. The pickups aren’t the greatest though and I’ve swapped them out. It’s routed HSH. If you could get a selection of pickguards for it, it would be a great mod platform to make this guitar your very own.
That’s cool but it feels more like a $600 guitar to me. Do you think a Fender, Gibson, or on the acoustic side Martin will ever produce a new shape style that will catch on like their tried and true standards, that 50 years from now will be deemed a standard. Feels like everyone is like “that’s nice give me another tele, strat, Les Paul or D-28”.
I love the Meteora shape, but I feel like they keep missing the mark on the various iterations. 1. The original version was essentially a Tele and was my favorite iteration. 2. There was a hard tail version but I think it had some weird electronics that didn't strike me as beneficial and I think they had an indian laurel fretboard. I would have preferred rosewood, ebony or maple. I did like the hardtail though. 3. I don't like the trem on the current version and the pickups seem week. My favorite version I have seen was the custom shop build that Ron Thorn did in a transparent white with filtertrons and a hardtail. I really want a hardtail and some sort of mini-humbucker, filtertron, or P90 pickup option. Trust me, I am a customer for one of these at some point.
Of course wood matters on am electric guitar! 🙈 magnets pick up the resonate frequency from the wood. Not just the vibration of the strings. Believe it or not there are subtle proven differences. And also feel quality for the more seasoned amoung players.
I know this will sound crazy, but I cant stand the way pau ferro feels on my fingers. There's something off putting about it, and maybe its just in my head. I dont know what it is exactly, it just feels like it has some "squishiness" or soft/give to it. I would rather have Indian Laurel if they want to use something more readily available and affordable.
I just nabbed a blemished limited edition black w/ebony fretboard off musician's friend for $600. Can't wait for it to come in. If I like it enough, my ultra luxe strat goes bye bye.
Such a shame when trying to highlight an overlooked guitar to throw a divisive tonewood comment in there but all you achieve is discouraging people who disagree & then what reason do they have to listen to you after that, you know it’s a divisive. You got their YT view 1 time well done.
Huh?! Wow, if you’re that sensitive about a tonewood comment, then don’t watch guitar stuff on TH-cam. Seems most major channels and guitarists on TH-cam feel that tone wood plays little to no role in electric guitars. If you can’t take an off the cuff comment, whether you agree or disagree, then you’re in the wrong place. Rather than asserting yourself like your entire ego was blown and proclaiming you won’t be back to this channel, might have been more productive to just explain why you disagree with the tone wood debate. You might have started an interesting conversation that way. Jeremy is an amazing guy who cares deeply about guitars. You’re gonna miss his valuable knowledge and interesting discussions by saying you won’t come back. So sorry you’re stuck on a single off the cuff remark that was all of one second of this video instead of focusing on all the amazing info in the other 10 mins and 55 secs. 😂🤷🏼♀️
@@MashaT22 I absolutely love that you wrote an entire paragraph dissertation in a ironic “if you can’t handle it” but then took time to write this reply & then assume I have an ego that is blown. Rather than start a tonewood debate (Greg Koch would disagree with you btw) I actually posted a more civil comment that argues for impartiality for both sides but somehow you read that I’m butthurt about a tonewood debate. That says more about you’re ability to read & process cognitive infomation than it does about my comment. Jeremy isn’t exactly the only well to draw from, I’ll live 😂
Somebody needs a diaper change…the tone wood topic really shouldn’t be divisive and his comment definitely wasn’t. The issue has already been settled. Tone wood does not matter for solid body electric guitars. There is plenty of content on this very platform proving as much. Not to mention, if you use some critical thinking skills on how electric guitars work, you will come to the same realization without having to do any additional research. Does fretboard/neck material and different finishes have an effect on playability? Sure. Are people allowed to have different preferences? Sure. But those are different conversations. The largest contributors to electric guitar tone are the pups and relationship between the pups and strings. Armed with this knowledge, you will now appear smarter to your friends and family. You’re welcome.
Well he did say explain how wood affects magnets and you didn’t do that. He did leave the door open to be disproven. Honestly you should be happy he isn’t lying to you like most guitar retailers.
I have one of the Fiesta Red ones. I love it. The pickups are fantastic and its comfortable sitting and with a strap on.
The meteora bass is great too! No one talks about them. It’s AMAZING!
Such an awesome guitar… looking forward to play one myself!
Ive seen the magdalena bay guitarrist play this, ever since ive been in love with this guitar
you said it looks like a 90s indie guitar and you definitely go and play it like a 90s indie guy. I really enjoyed your playing.
I need them to get on and make the Squier version, I need to confirm it can also "metal" , plenty to wait for on this cool shaped guitar.
I think the Meteora is a super cool design. I wish they'd make an American made run
why? so some guy named jose can make the same thing in california?
@@ragnadrabinowitz7629 Yes
Si!!!
This should really be around 699 to drum up interest
Agreed. 1k is a stupid price for this. The only people rushing to buy at that price are Fender fanboys…a demographic that is smaller now than it was 20 years ago, and will be even smaller in another 20 if Fender doesn’t come to their senses on QC and prices in general.
That would be great, but these have nearly the same specs as ultra/ultra luxe guitars (I have an ultra luxe strat, which I'd also say is also overpriced), so comparatively, they're priced well.
Nice guitar and I agree tone on an electric guitar comes from the pick ups.
thanks for the review
I'm back and forth personally about what I think of tonewoods but what I am sure of is that the way the guitar feels in your hands in really important. I've had a Pau Ferro board for about 4 years now and no matter what I do, it is always very dry. It's the only Pau Ferro I've ever had so I don't know if it's an indicator of all these but good lord is it always thirsty.
love mine! sunburst finish!
I have this exact one in the Cosmic Jade as well. Really cool guitar, feels great sitting or standing, sounds great. Mine has an iffy 3way switch where I get complete volume cutouts at times. I need to just take that in and get it changed out which should be a cheap fix. I'm not a huge fan of the Pau Fero fretboard also, though I don't put much stock in the tone debate regarding fretboard wood, it's just an aesthetic choice that isn't my favorite but it wasn't a dealbreaker for me clearly.
i can possibly see tonewood having some effect on the sound if the vibratory qualities of the woods somehow alters the vibrations of the strings that the pickups interact with.
having said that for me the fretboard woods is an aesthetic choice mainly.
Bit of a sleeper,
They are real nice 🎸
They should put a jazzmaster trem on it, or make it a hard tail.
Jeremy I think you secretly wanted a debate, so I'm going reductive: a pickup cannot make ANY sound unless there is a vibrating string (under tension) fixed across materials that have a fundamental resonance? Change the materials (wood or otherwise) you change the resonance. More subtle on an electric but there all the same. 💥
I absolutely want a debate and definitely have said this to be provocative.
After owning a mim tele and playing a pair of mim strats, I won’t be buying this at 1,049 USD. If I see one brand new for 700, maybe…but at that point, I might as well wait for a Squier version at 400.
I also find it hilarious that all the shops in my area only have the green finish and they’re collecting dust. Like they somehow thought the silver burst and blue finishes wouldn’t sell, so they bought a couple extra green. Just another sign that I don’t need it.
If i had to buy something fender it would be the meteora.
Yep these are "WAY COOL JUNIOR" !
These are super cool, and all the rage a few years ago (it seems). But yeah it feels like they kinda faded out of the conversation a little bit.
Tends to happen to new designs historically. Definitely not something you expect to hold value because Fender's designs historically flopped initially before getting a resurgence decades later.
I'm just going to be happy being a first generation player of these things, never letting mine go.
I think the metatora has fileld out finders offset lineup, with the humuchers. Jags and JM's with humbuckers always looked weird to me. it fills a niche that the jag or JM didn't fill. Jags have the strat like pickups, JM's have their own pickups, the meteora fills the humbucker part of that.
Tonewoods don't matter. I've played great guitars that were pine and some really crappy, big-dollar "tonewood" guitars. I will say that regardless of the wood there's a certain mojo that happens when an electric guitar just rings out when it's not plugged in. It just sounds better somehow. They play better, too. I've heard many other players I know, and some famous ones (Brad Whitford of Aerosmith comes to mind), say the same thing.
Meteora's are fantastic and definitely on my wish list. Probably not in the green metal flake. lol More of a nice tobacco burst. I don't have a problem with +$1K for a quality MIM, and what you said about how the Classic Vibes are now the "MIM" is exactly what I've been saying for a while.
Yep my 95 PRS custom 24 rings like a bell acoustically it kinda special sounding compared to my other guitars !
I think the MOST that tonewood could do on an electric is the body. Less dense vs more dense changing how it resonates or sustains. On a board, eh it’s about color
thanks Jeremy I think while they look real odd they’re super sick, i’m thinking of picking one up after this and throwing some phat cats on it instead of dealing with jazzmaster woes
That would be a killer upgrade.
I have a metallic green Meteora and really like it. The pickups aren’t the greatest though and I’ve swapped them out.
It’s routed HSH. If you could get a selection of pickguards for it, it would be a great mod platform to make this guitar your very own.
the pickups are awesome. articulate and clear and they took lots of gain really well.
What did you swap them out to?
My favorite color, have a tele the same color.
Whatever anyone thinks about tonewood on an electric, ebony and rosewood are aesthetically leagues over laurel or Pau ferro
That’s cool but it feels more like a $600 guitar to me. Do you think a Fender, Gibson, or on the acoustic side Martin will ever produce a new shape style that will catch on like their tried and true standards, that 50 years from now will be deemed a standard. Feels like everyone is like “that’s nice give me another tele, strat, Les Paul or D-28”.
I love the Meteora shape, but I feel like they keep missing the mark on the various iterations.
1. The original version was essentially a Tele and was my favorite iteration.
2. There was a hard tail version but I think it had some weird electronics that didn't strike me as beneficial and I think they had an indian laurel fretboard. I would have preferred rosewood, ebony or maple. I did like the hardtail though.
3. I don't like the trem on the current version and the pickups seem week.
My favorite version I have seen was the custom shop build that Ron Thorn did in a transparent white with filtertrons and a hardtail. I really want a hardtail and some sort of mini-humbucker, filtertron, or P90 pickup option. Trust me, I am a customer for one of these at some point.
I also would like to see a hard tail, or even a Jazzmaster trem. P90’s would also be cool.
They introduced the meteora so metal players would stop using jazzmasters, imo. I'm waiting for an American pro.
Jazzmasters are one of the brightest sounding guitars out there and this sounds like mud. Why would this be aimed at people who want bright tones?
Of course wood matters on am electric guitar! 🙈 magnets pick up the resonate frequency from the wood. Not just the vibration of the strings. Believe it or not there are subtle proven differences. And also feel quality for the more seasoned amoung players.
I know this will sound crazy, but I cant stand the way pau ferro feels on my fingers. There's something off putting about it, and maybe its just in my head. I dont know what it is exactly, it just feels like it has some "squishiness" or soft/give to it. I would rather have Indian Laurel if they want to use something more readily available and affordable.
I just nabbed a blemished limited edition black w/ebony fretboard off musician's friend for $600. Can't wait for it to come in. If I like it enough, my ultra luxe strat goes bye bye.
Nice looking guitar but P90s would sound better, not a big humbuckers fan.
Cool story Bob
Ive got a so called partscaster/diy and 'nobody' is talking about it. Lol
Pricey, you should go into guitar building.
The fender engraving in the pickups ruins the look.
Green Day!!!!!!
I don't care about the tone of the fretboard. I care that its really ugly. I wish the Fiesta Red came with the maple board
Hard Wood….
Awesome ?
Already has" fix it" issues.
Give me a break!
Hold Mexico to Japanese made guitars level of craftsmansip.
Now that would ne awesome.
Over $1000 is alot for Mexican made guitar, but I'm a world where Asian made Epiphones are hitting the $1800 mark, it could be seen as a bargain.
The Pau Ferro fretboard "looks" like shit. The Rosewood is better. Makes no difference to the sound, as you stated.
Mine is maple. Looks much better
please get to the point
Dad? Is that you?
Such a shame when trying to highlight an overlooked guitar to throw a divisive tonewood comment in there but all you achieve is discouraging people who disagree & then what reason do they have to listen to you after that, you know it’s a divisive. You got their YT view 1 time well done.
Agree. Totally unnecessary and I won't be back.
Huh?! Wow, if you’re that sensitive about a tonewood comment, then don’t watch guitar stuff on TH-cam. Seems most major channels and guitarists on TH-cam feel that tone wood plays little to no role in electric guitars. If you can’t take an off the cuff comment, whether you agree or disagree, then you’re in the wrong place. Rather than asserting yourself like your entire ego was blown and proclaiming you won’t be back to this channel, might have been more productive to just explain why you disagree with the tone wood debate. You might have started an interesting conversation that way.
Jeremy is an amazing guy who cares deeply about guitars. You’re gonna miss his valuable knowledge and interesting discussions by saying you won’t come back. So sorry you’re stuck on a single off the cuff remark that was all of one second of this video instead of focusing on all the amazing info in the other 10 mins and 55 secs. 😂🤷🏼♀️
@@MashaT22 I absolutely love that you wrote an entire paragraph dissertation in a ironic “if you can’t handle it” but then took time to write this reply & then assume I have an ego that is blown. Rather than start a tonewood debate (Greg Koch would disagree with you btw) I actually posted a more civil comment that argues for impartiality for both sides but somehow you read that I’m butthurt about a tonewood debate. That says more about you’re ability to read & process cognitive infomation than it does about my comment. Jeremy isn’t exactly the only well to draw from, I’ll live 😂
Somebody needs a diaper change…the tone wood topic really shouldn’t be divisive and his comment definitely wasn’t. The issue has already been settled. Tone wood does not matter for solid body electric guitars. There is plenty of content on this very platform proving as much. Not to mention, if you use some critical thinking skills on how electric guitars work, you will come to the same realization without having to do any additional research.
Does fretboard/neck material and different finishes have an effect on playability? Sure. Are people allowed to have different preferences? Sure. But those are different conversations. The largest contributors to electric guitar tone are the pups and relationship between the pups and strings. Armed with this knowledge, you will now appear smarter to your friends and family. You’re welcome.
Well he did say explain how wood affects magnets and you didn’t do that. He did leave the door open to be disproven.
Honestly you should be happy he isn’t lying to you like most guitar retailers.