The HUGE Stations That Serve Huge Stadiums

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  • @RMTransit
    @RMTransit  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +166

    Note - There is a slight mistake with the map for Berlin's Olympiastadion - the giant S-Bahn station on the south should be highlighted! Perhaps Innotrans this year had me distracted!

    • @AH-bf4md
      @AH-bf4md 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      but everything else seems to be correct. You just have to mention the highlighted U2 Line Station to Ruhleben= )

    • @lolalasziv1059
      @lolalasziv1059 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      And: Right before next station (Heerstraße) there are three tracks. From late 1980 till early 1998 the S-Bahn line to Olympiastadion and beyond was suspended. Only U-Bahn (The old, small sized U1 and some Busses reached the stadium.). You can imagine that it was a nightmare with only 35.000 spectators to get home by time. Think about a sold out stadium with 74.000. Greetings from Berlin!

    • @oPlazmaMC
      @oPlazmaMC 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lolalasziv1059 even then a lot of ppl would have just refused to get on an sbahn train

    • @moritzschmelzer4251
      @moritzschmelzer4251 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The Olympic stadium is not only served by the S-Bahn station in the south, but also by the U-Bahn station in the east that you have highlighted correctly. There is 3 tracks for the U2 line, with two platforms (the middle track, therefore is the closest we get to an Iberian solution in Berlin, is however not fully functional as there's a small fence on one side of the train, that makes boarding from both sides impossible).

    • @johnmyers8633
      @johnmyers8633 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      One other really mindblowing thing about the Berlin Olympiastadion is its sheer size combined with it's architecture. It's quite the experience going there after a football match, seeing the massive swarms of people squeezing into one train after another that are leaving every couple minutes.

  • @transitspace4366
    @transitspace4366 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +161

    Worth noting that Lyon stadium trams use passing loops, enabling them to run super fast while allowing regular T3 services to operate smoothly. This setup ensures that regular commuters aren’t caught in the rush of excited supporters, keeping both services efficient and separate.

    • @RMTransit
      @RMTransit  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's super efficient!

  • @chickennoodle6620
    @chickennoodle6620 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +356

    Richmond Station and the MCG was notorious earlier in the year when Americans were commenting about the lack of car parks around the stadium for the Taylor Swift Concert.

    • @illiiilli24601
      @illiiilli24601 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

      I saw that on social media and found that hilarious

    • @psychic_beth
      @psychic_beth 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

      Yup, and Reece didn't even mention all the other transit that's around the MCG and the tennis centre. This includes the 70, 75 and 48 tram lines as well as Jolimont Station and the 246 bus that runs up Punt Road.

    • @MultiCappie
      @MultiCappie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @crowmob-yo6ry Hey, be nice.

    • @JohnCooperCre8
      @JohnCooperCre8 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      And it's not just the MCG, Richmond (and the trams) has to cope with international cricket at the 'G during the Australian Tennis Open on the other side of the tracks.

    • @danielnarbett
      @danielnarbett 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@psychic_beth totally, I was going to say the same - except that Melbourne ppl are allergic to busses, I think because they aren't on rails so you can't trust them 😂

  • @DanielBrotherston
    @DanielBrotherston 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    I think there's a much more interesting Dutch example. The town of Zandvoort is the location of the F1 motor race--which ironically prohibits attendees from driving too. All attendees must arrive by train, bus, or bike (or walking). But this happens once a year. The train station is a typical small town train station, but during F1 time, there are two other temporary wooden platforms that open and allow boarding and alighting from both sides of the trains, and the F1 organizers build a huge temporary gantry walkway to let rail passengers cross into the event space directly.

    • @stmisbehavin662
      @stmisbehavin662 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I watched a video about this yesterday. During the F1 event, two of the tracks along the Amsterdam-Haarlem line are reserved for the Amsterdam Centraal - Zandvoort service, which runs *every five minutes*! All the level crossings are fenced off because there would not be enough time to open and shut them between trains. The train still stops at intermediate stops except Overveen, again because access to the platform there is a pedestrian level crossing.

    • @RMTransit
      @RMTransit  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      It's definitely super interesting (and IIRC the train is literally called the Max Express!) but I wanted to focus on stations in bigger cities this time around!

    • @Quark0611
      @Quark0611 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Speaking of the Netherlands, not just Zandvoort, but in Rotterdam, there's Rotterdam Stadion, a normal railway station, with 2 gigantic island platforms, and connected to the stadium by a foot bridge.
      In normal times, the station is not served, only during games and other events.

    • @debuthunter5389
      @debuthunter5389 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RMTransit - A video on F1 transit would be interesting, given the massive size and amount of people. Some of them are remote locations, some near cities. Some service multiple sides, some from one side, which means literally an hour or more of walking to get to some areas of the track.

    • @marcovtjev
      @marcovtjev 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And in Eindhoven there is a dedicated station attached to the PSV stadium, even though central station is walking distance. The attached station is more an example of the principle of separating supporter streams of opposing teams to separate stations, mentioned in the video. They go by tunnel to the station directly from the out-supporters tribute . Though I have a feeling it is somewhat in disuse.

  • @jonahg6654
    @jonahg6654 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    As a Chicagoan, some of my favorite memories of the city come from random conversations with fellow pinstripe-wearing Cubs fans on the red line. Gameday transit feels a little like a space-efficient, environmentally friendly tailgate and I love it.

    • @jasontrebilcock6496
      @jasontrebilcock6496 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Taking the Red Line to Wrigley? I'm definitely on board with that. But, I will never take the Red Line after a game/concert. But then again, I am almost never in a rush to get away from Wrigley...so I'm content to walk up to the Brown Line stop at Belmont and go from there.

    • @RMTransit
      @RMTransit  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      And some say they avoid transit so they don't have to have any human interactions...

    • @00Zy99
      @00Zy99 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RMTransit We should acknowledge that some people have genuine mental health issues regarding this. But other people are just snobs.
      Of course, it certainly doesn't help that Addison Station is ridiculously insufficient, to say the least. It was built as a standard local-only stop more than 100 years ago for a much smaller traffic demand.
      Thankfully, the entire corridor is getting rebuilt, and there are plans for Addison floating around in the longer term, but it is going to be tricky-it abuts the Wrigley Rooftops (local residences that put bleachers on their roofs back when the Cubs were started getting popular in the 1980s and have now pretty much become official parts of Wrigley Field).

    • @jonathanbott87
      @jonathanbott87 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's a smaller venue, but I really wish Pace would bring back the express event bus between Allstate and Rosemont L.

  • @tspoon772
    @tspoon772 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    The MCG actually has a second station (Jolimont, to the north) that handles another two lines

    • @Revilok08
      @Revilok08 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      plus not to mention the 3 tramlines plus the added services

    • @RMTransit
      @RMTransit  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Great callout!

    • @tombrennan9452
      @tombrennan9452 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      from my experience, most people use Jolimont.

    • @tspoon772
      @tspoon772 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@tombrennan9452 that would be from your experience. Richmond is far busier since it handles 8 lines versus Jolimonts 2. Jolimont only looks busier because it’s way smaller

    • @flamingfrancis
      @flamingfrancis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The MCG, Sydney's SCG, Adelaide Oval, and Perth's WACA are all conveniently located for a leisurely short walk from their CBD's

  • @felixw19
    @felixw19 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    There are way more of these in Germany. Frankfurt, Stuttgart, Nuremberg and Dortmund all have train stations for their stadiums while most other cities have tram or metro connections.
    In some cities like Kaiserslautern, Dresden or Wiesbaden the stadium is only a walking distance away from the central station.
    Oh and the Karlsruher Modell Tram-train system has lead to two tiny towns (Berghausen and Gondelsheim) to have stations right next to their Sunday league stadiums.

    • @rorschak47
      @rorschak47 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Stuttgart one is massively undersized, and has way too few trains running.

    • @jasontrebilcock6496
      @jasontrebilcock6496 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      In Stuttgart, they do have the ability to queue up trains...but, to your point, it doesn't feel like it is enough. Going to the stadium? I have no issues with taking the U-11. But, after a match, not so much. That's why I'm one of those people that will walk from the stadium over to Bad Cannstatt and catch either the U- or S-Bahn trains...depending on where I'm going.

    • @felixw19
      @felixw19 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jasontrebilcock6496 I was talking about the S-Bahn station in specific. That's why I said "train station" and mentioned tram/light rail stops separately

    • @camero3266
      @camero3266 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      dusseldorf as well

    • @felixw19
      @felixw19 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@camero3266 Düsseldorf does not have a train station at it's football stadium. It only has a Light Rail stop.

  • @matthewshelbourne9560
    @matthewshelbourne9560 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    When talking about the Melbourne Cricket Ground, not only is it serviced by the Richmond Railway Station, but it is also serviced by the smaller Jolimont- M.C.G. Station as well as tram stops near Richmond Station and Jolimont Stations. For a stadium that can accommodate 100,000 spectators and has no real car parking, public transport does a fantastic job transporting sports fans to and from the ground. Now the M.C.G. is not the only sports stadium in Melbourne that is serviced by a large railway station. Melbourne's 2nd largest sports stadium Marvel Stadium, that can accommodate 50,000+, is serviced by Melbourne's largest railway station, Southern Cross Station.

    • @biot_travel
      @biot_travel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      i was surprised marvel didnt get a mention as it is also the terminus for many regional trains which many stations dont have that facility of.

    • @RMTransit
      @RMTransit  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Parking for cars couldn't come close to delivering the same level of transport outcomes!

    • @matthewshelbourne9560
      @matthewshelbourne9560 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @biot_travel I was too!

  • @davidsteve1677
    @davidsteve1677 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    North Greenwich on the London Underground serves the o2 arena, super efficient! There's an extra platform for trains to wait empty before filling up and heading back into central London. Also in the UK, more specifically Newcastle, St James Park on the Tyne & Wear Metro is also a great stadium station. The platforms are huge and the station is themed to reflect Newcastle's football team.

    • @wraithcadmus
      @wraithcadmus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The O2 also has the Dangleway!

  • @aubreyadams7884
    @aubreyadams7884 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    Thanks for mentioning Perth Stadium Station, I was hanging out to see if you would. On the other side of tracks is Belmont Park Racecourse (horsing racing) and it was previously served by a event-only small station at that location. The current Stadium Station was developed as part of the stadium precinct. The station is now always in use regardless of events at the stadium (or racecourse) because of high rise residential development in the precinct. Another feature of event public transport in Perth generally is that usually tickets to an event include public transport to and from the venue. This encourages its use and reduces road traffic (Perth Stadium actually has no public parking at all!) and means patrons don't have to purchase or swipe transport tickets, making the boarding of the transport faster and more efficient.

    • @momon969
      @momon969 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That generally sounds like the ideal way to do this. Good on you, Perth!

    • @Fluggegecheimen69
      @Fluggegecheimen69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Perth got the transit so right with that stadium build. Not just the large Stadium station with its services to the Armadale, Thornlie/Cockburn, Yanchep and Freo lines, but also the equally large bus station with routes going everywhere, the East Perth terminal also being within walking distance for direct service to the Midland, Ellenbrook and regional lines and the bridge over the river linking to the high-frequency CBD CAT bus routes.
      They might as well keep going and build a mini olympic park precinct there now. Rectangular stadium, new tennis park, pools, exhibition halls etc. Sky's the limit.

    • @peterpandem9540
      @peterpandem9540 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@aubreyadams7884 Ah, when they proposed an underground rail system, the critics said 'where are you going to find someone to dig the tunnels in Western Australia!' That was funny. There more likely more underground mine tunnels than paved roads.

    • @RMTransit
      @RMTransit  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think a stadium station only used when the stadium is being used is a sign of a poorly planned area!

    • @JamesParadiso
      @JamesParadiso 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RMTransit Perth stadium station is now open 7 days a week regardless if there's an event at the stadium or not because you pub nearby a mini golf course Perth stadium tours and other attractions there

  • @BsamohT228
    @BsamohT228 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    About Paris, two stations have "Stade de France" in their name, on RER B and RER D. They both feature 2 very long ramps per direction to access to the platforms ; those ramps, that can be bypass by stairs or lifts during normal operations, are the exact capacity of a train. This allows SNCF agents to pack a group of spectators of exactly the correct size on the ramps while a train is being loaded by people already on the platform; after that train left, the people on the ramps go on the plateform while the next train gets in, and as soon as the ramp in empty, they prepare the next batch of people. It quite efficient, and prevents train from being overloaded or underloaded.

    • @BsamohT228
      @BsamohT228 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I'm sure the concept exists in other countries, but I've been to MCG many times using Jolimont station and it was never as smooth.

    • @aur.c
      @aur.c 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      nice

    • @RMTransit
      @RMTransit  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I love this, such a stadium station feature!

    • @KyrilPG
      @KyrilPG 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, it's great and quite mesmerizing to watch.
      I'm pretty sure there's a video here on TH-cam showing the process in like 3x or 4x speed, it's like those satisfying machinery videos. 🤣
      The only issue is that they block elevators when they use the high attendance "measuring ramps" crowd management process.
      This is very bothersome for people with reduced mobility, and we have to ask station attendants to ride one of the elevators. A fairly simple demand which they sometimes outright refuse or make you wait a long time for the rush to be over before letting you take the elevators.
      It depends on the attendants or station's chiefs, of course. Sometimes, the attendants only asked us to wait a short moment for us to ride the elevator at the exact moment that the previous train is finishing loading so that we can reach the platform before they empty the ramp onto the platform and be positioned correctly to be among the first to board and ensure having a seat or a wheelchair position before the crowds plough into the train.
      But sometimes, they consider that reduced mobility and wheelchair passengers are "a pain" and should wait instead.
      I haven't been to the stadium for some time, so I hope that station attendants' behavior towards PRM passengers has greatly improved since.
      When I went there, it was a breeze or a miss...
      Friends of mine that went recently to the Stade de France told me that the station attendants were helpful but were too busy and focused on the ramp crowds that they didn't even see, hear, or respond to them for long minutes.
      The attendants near the elevators were not in charge nor able to activate them, so they had to ask more senior attendants located farther and who were very busy.
      While another time, a station attendant answered to a friend : "I don't want to see any wheelchair on the platform between the edge and 2000+ rowdy supporters". This is understandable, sure, but maybe they could have found a way to allow the wheelchair user a few seconds of headway to board first before unleashing the hordes of supporters from their ramp stall?
      I imagine that the Paralympics surely had an effect on crowd management procedures with better inclusion of passengers with reduced mobility.

    • @BsamohT228
      @BsamohT228 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KyrilPG I wasn't there for paralympics, so I don't know how they handle a crowd with probably more disabled people than usual.
      But in general, if you are in a wheelchair, good fucking luck getting around Paris ; most of the transport infrastructure uses legacy stairs or access that were built in a time when literally no one cared about that, resulting in the metro system being one of the best in the world if you can walk and at the same time the least accessible on the planet if you can't.
      I assume they would let you use the lifts though, but as I'm not directly concerned I may have been too optimistic there.
      But the problem is much wider ; once you are in the RER, what do you do next ? Most of RER B stations are accessible nowadays, but not their connections especially with the metro...
      My great grandpa during his later years had to use buses or taxi for everything despite living less than 300m away from 3 different metro lines.

  • @user6343
    @user6343 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Berlin's Olympia Stadion is actually also served by the S-Bahn so crowds have different choices and will spread out.
    In Switzerland some stadiums are right next to mainland rail tracks (Basel, Geneva, Bern to name a few) and have dedicated stops with one platforms for away fans to keep them separated at all times from home fans to avoid any issues

  • @MorganMagnus
    @MorganMagnus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    You forgot Čierny Balog in Slovakia! Their trains stop IN the stadium and drop you off practically on the field. (Thanks, Tim Traveller.)

  • @katrinabryce
    @katrinabryce 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    There are also extra trains to Wembley Central (Bakerloo Line, Overground, London NorthWestern, and Avanti West Coast) on match days. That is particularly useful for people travelling from the North as they don't need to go into central London and back out.
    Also in London, Stratford was the main station for visiting the Olympics in 2012. Most of the sports facilities are still there. The main stadium is used by West Ham football club.
    In Glasgow, the main stadiums are Hampden, served by Mount Florida station, a very average looking suburban rail station; Celtic Park, served by Dalmarnock station on the Argyle Line, and a pretty average looking station for that line; and Ibrox Stadium, served by Ibrox subway station, which is I think the second largest subway station after Govan.

  • @MrAljosav
    @MrAljosav 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    At 0:35 you mention event stations. In Melbourne, Australia we have the Flemington Racecourse line which is entirely dedicated to events at the Showgrounds and Flemington Racecourse. Flemington Racecourse station is typically used for Spring Racing carnival and a couple of other horse race meets during the year, whilst Showgrounds station gets a bit more usage (usually every few weekends when there’s some festival/exhibition at the Showgrounds)
    Also some other notable examples in Melbourne:
    • Rod Laver Arena tram stop - this has a turnback facility to allow frequent trams after events held within Melbourne Park’s stadiums/arenas/MCG. This is very useful for regular 10,000 seat concerts, Australian Open grand slams in January and for cricket/Australian football at the MCG. The tram stop is a convenient alternative to nearby Richmond station
    • Southern Cross station - Largest station in Victoria (by platform size) and is the terminus of all regional rail services and serves most suburban rail lines. This station serves the nearby Docklands Stadium (50,000+ capacity) which is predominantly used for the biggest concerts (ie Taylor Swift, Eminem, Coldplay etc), Australian football and in summer T20 Cricket.
    • Caulfield Station - This inner south-east station serves as the junction between several south-eastern suburban lines but in Spring it also serves horse race events over several weekends in October at the nearby Caulfield Racecourse (this is seperate to Flemington Racecourse which is located diagonally across the city in the inner north-west).
    • St Kilda Light Railway (on tram route 96) and St Kilda Junction also serve as major stops surrounding Albert Park which is used for the Melbourne Formula 1 Grand Prix in March each year. During that weekend, there’s massive changes to tram operations across the whole tram network (with some routes being replaced by busses) in order to reallocate the trams/drivers to transport the 150,000+ crowds by trams that run every 2-3 minutes on Raceday.
    Less notable:
    • Port Melbourne light railway - Not exactly for sporting events but this light railway (on tram route 109) serves cruises. For major cruises in summer they organise shuttle busses express to the city.
    • Jolimont station - Serves nearby MCG for 2 north-eastern suburban lines. This station is located on the opposite side of MCG to Richmond.
    • Wellington Parade tram stop similarly provides access to frequent trams for events held at MCG and is located just outside Jolimont station
    • Latrobe Street Stadium tram stop - Used for frequent special event trams along Latrobe Street (on the northern periphery of Melbourne’s CBD) for events held at the Docklands stadium (ie concerts, Australian football, T20 Cricket, etc)

    • @peterpandem9540
      @peterpandem9540 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      You need to remember the MCG hosted Talyor Swift, 97,000 attended and then emptied without reported fuss. And are no car parks for kilometres.

    • @Merri-bekRailfan
      @Merri-bekRailfan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You beat me to it mate, nice essay though!

    • @tangiers365
      @tangiers365 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Marvel did not host Taylor swift and would never be big enough

    • @MrAljosav
      @MrAljosav 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@tangiers365 She had two concerts at Docklands stadium in 2013 and 2018. :)

    • @tangiers365
      @tangiers365 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrAljosav did you go? i didnt im only 14 i lover her tho

  • @DerKarlsruher16
    @DerKarlsruher16 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    9:44 - There are many more interesting examples all around Germany!
    - The Hanover Fairground is served by transit from three directions: Two Stadtbahn lines terminate to its north and east, while the _Hannover Messe/Laatzen_ railway station lies to its southwest. During events, even some long-distance trains stop here, with the station being on the high-speed line to Würzburg. However, outside of events, there's only an hourly S-Bahn service, making the station feel extremely oversized during most of the year.
    - In Hamburg, the _Dammtor_ station serves the exhibition complex as well as the University of Hamburg within the city center. Since most long-distance trains stop here even outside of events, it also plays a crucial role in relieving some pressure off the central station, which is notoriously overloaded.
    - The stadium of Frankfurt is connected to an S-Bahn + regional rail station to the west, and a large tram terminus to the northeast.
    - In Dortmund, the stadium and Westfalenhallen venues are connected to the _Signal-Iduna-Park_ station, which has really long platforms at around 400 meters, despite never seeing long-distance services. This is important to manage the huge number of passengers during events, especially home games of BVB.
    - In Düsseldorf, the Stadtbahn station _Merkur Spiel-Arena/Messe Nord_ serves both the stadium and fairground, with platforms that are very wide and even use the Spanish solution (akin to Sydney Olympic Park).
    - Cologne's trade fair ground, the Koelnmesse, is located right next to the large _Köln Messe/Deutz_ station, which functions much like a second central station on the other side of the Rhine.
    Here's also some additions for Berlin:
    - The S-Bahn station _Pichelsberg_ lets trains serve the western parts of the Olympic Park more closely, in a similar vein to Amsterdam with its second metro station near Bijlmer ArenA.
    - The U-Bahn station _Olympia-Stadion_ is still noteworthy. ;-) A train depot is located nearby (just like with Munich's Allianz Arena), and the former old signal box is now home to the U-Bahn-Museum.
    - To the close southeast of the Olympic Park lies the Messe Berlin, which is well-connected to multiple S-Bahn stations: _Messe Nord/ICC_ on the Ringbahn, _Messe Süd_ on the same line which serves the Olympic Park, and _Westkreuz_ at the nearby crossing point of these two lines.

  • @phillyphilly2095
    @phillyphilly2095 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    In Philly, NRG station on the Broad Street Subway was not designed to be a sports station per se, but it services three adjacent stadia in the Philadelphia Sports Complex, within the city limits.

    • @LarimerFilms
      @LarimerFilms 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It is double-decker though, and has express services for large/multiple events.

    • @phillyphilly2095
      @phillyphilly2095 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @LarimerFilms True, true. And extra big platforms and four "headhouses" for toll collection. And it opened 2 two years after Veterans Stadium did. So, I guess we can say that it actually was designed to be a sports station.

    • @libertubey2199
      @libertubey2199 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If City Council approves of the new Sixers arena at 11th & Market, it will be served by the current Market-Frankford Line (future L1 Line), Broad-Ridge Spur (future B3 Line), PATCO, Regional Rail (except the Cynwyd) Line), plus numerous SEPTA and NJ Transit bus lines.

    • @phillyphilly2095
      @phillyphilly2095 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @libertubey2199 Yeah, well it looks like the new arena is being railroaded in by the mayor and trade unions (pun intended). As you pointed out, there will be a lot of transit options for folks. Hope they use them.

    • @leoncchow
      @leoncchow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How is NRG station at handling concurrent Philadelphia Sports Complex events, like a Phillies playoff game while the Flyers play the same night?

  • @szayelThe8thespada
    @szayelThe8thespada 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    In Spain, we have many stadiums with stations serving them but they aren't all huge stations. The stations that I know are:
    1. Barcelona's Camp Nou Stadium is served by Av. Xile tramway station (T1, T2, and T3), Collblanc metro station (L5, L9, and L10), and Les Corts metro station (L3). In the future, it will have its own dedicated metro station named Camp Nou, serving the L9 and L10 metro lines.
    2. Barcelona's RCDE Stadium is served by the Cornella-Riera metro station (L8).
    3. Madrid's Santiago Bernabéu Stadium has its own metro station (L10) and is near the Nuevos Ministerios transport hub, which includes metro lines L6, L8, and L10, as well as commuter train lines C1, C2, C3, C4, C7, C8, and C10.
    4. Madrid's Metropolitano Stadium has its own metro station (L7).
    5. Valencia's Mestalla Stadium is served by two metro stations: Aragó (L5 and L7) and Facultats-Manuel Broseta (L3 and L9), as well as the Universitat Politècnica tramway station (L4 and L6).
    6. Bilbao's San Mamés Stadium has its own transport hub, serving metro (L1 and L2), a tramway line, two commuter train lines (C1 and C2), and the city's main bus terminal for interurban buses.
    7. Sevilla's Ramón Sánchez-Pizjuán Stadium is served by the Nervion metro station and the Eduardo Dato tramway station.
    8. Zaragoza's La Romareda Stadium has its own tramway station.

  • @bryanCJC2105
    @bryanCJC2105 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Yes, the LA stadiums in Inglewood are terribly located. However, it's important to understand that the land these stadiums are on was always for large sports venues. The Forum (opened 1967) and the Hollywood Race Track and Casino (opened 1938 to 2013) were there before, so this didn't "just happen".
    The real problem is that when LA Metro was planning the Crenshaw light rail line these sports venues were closed or closing and while the land was still zoned for entertainment, neither LA Metro nor the city of Inglewood stopped to consider what would soon be built there. It was widely known at the time that the area would be redeveloped to contain housing, parkland, and an entertainment complex with stadiums and a remodeled casino. LA Metro wanted to save money by using the existing RR ROW (this is a common theme) no matter how far from high demand sites, using that ROW was their intent from the beginning. So instead of spending what would probably have been about $500-750 million to build an optimal route, $2 billion in public money (from the state, feds, and local taxes) will be spent on a people mover ($2 billion!!!! that's equal to the cost of the entire Crenshaw Line to date) which will most likely be overwhelmed on event days, very sparsely used on other days, and won't even reach Century Blvd (major bus corridor), the Intuit Dome, or the Green Line's Hawthorne station about 1 mile south.

    • @mrsman-i5b
      @mrsman-i5b 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Agree completely. When the K line (pink) was planned along Crenshaw, the existing sports facilities were largley relics of the past with Forum being superseded by Staples/Crypto and horse racing at Hollywood Park also an era of the past. But once word came that the Kroenkes were planning to move the Rams to LA and into the old Hollywood Park site, the plans should have been redrawn to serve the stadium and the airport more directly. A lot of the construction wasn't yet even done at this point and it would have saved the need for an extra transfer to people movers.
      The K line could turn onto Prairie to serve the Forum, SoFi, and Intuit and then merge into the C line in the range of Hawthorne Blvd station. From there, the two lines travel to Aviation station, with the K line then continuing along the C line's existing path to Redondo Beach (Marine Ave) and the C line heading north and then following the Airport people mover routing into the LAX terminals. Yes, instead of a people mover, have the C line serve the terminals directly. Both the stadium and the airport would be served directly by the rail system and a convenient transfer between the two lines could be made at either Hawthorne or Aviation.

    • @blores95
      @blores95 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's one thing for the rail lines to not service the stadiums because it was planned further in advance but it's another thing for the obscenely wealthy owners of those stadiums/teams to want public money to pay for the People Mover. Between the obscenely rich people wasting public money on lawsuits to avoid building a rail line that's 100% going to be built (Sepulveda and D/Purple Extension) to obscenely rich people doing whatever they want and wanting the public to pay for something they can afford themselves (Inglewood Stadiums), LA can't catch a break, or isn't strong enough to just do what needs to be done for the general public. As much people complain about the Dodger's Gondola, at least that's mostly paid for privately.

    • @bryanCJC2105
      @bryanCJC2105 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@blores95 I agree with you. The people mover should have been paid for by the stadiums and teams.

  • @jontytheswiftie22
    @jontytheswiftie22 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Perth Stadium also has express services that run from the stadium station express through the CBD and out onto some of our other rail lines after events are on (there are also similar services before the game that stop in the city centre).

  • @happyburger23
    @happyburger23 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I'm somewhat surprised that Baltimore's Camden Station wasn't mentioned, since it's right next to/in front of M&T Bank Stadium (gridiron/American football) and Camden Yards (baseball). the Baltimore light rail frequently runs (immensely packed) game-day trains for ball games.

  • @alexonathletics
    @alexonathletics 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The best stadium-related transport experiences I’ve had have been in places where there are two separate stations on different routes to serve the venue, such as Berlin’s Olympiastadion or the Stade de France.
    This way, the crowd can disperse in a calmer way after an event, rather than the whole capacity of the stadium being funnelled towards the same place.

  • @chobo500
    @chobo500 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Washington DC has a really good setup with Capital One Arena. The stadium sits right on top of the Gallery Place-Chinatown station, one of the big city center transfer stations. But if Gallery Place gets too crowded after a game or you need to get on a Blue, Orange, or Silver line train, you can also just take a short walk to Metro Center, another major city center transfer hub!

    • @sebastianjoseph2828
      @sebastianjoseph2828 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Agreed. It's also got a great high-capacity metro station (Navy Yard) that's really good at handling baseball games (and soccer games a 15 minute walk away). Really the only stadium that's inconvenient by transit is the current football stadium. But that's still doable (a 20 minute) walk from a far-flung metro station.

    • @RMTransit
      @RMTransit  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Perks of having multiple transit services nearby!

  • @MartiniFabio87
    @MartiniFabio87 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    In Sao Paulo there is a large stadium (Arena Corinthians) right beside a rail-metro interchange station (Corinthians-Itaquera). It worked very well during the world cup and the olympics. I should also mention Maracana station in Rio, which is also a rail-metro interchange station right next to the world's most famous stadium

  • @journeyswithj246
    @journeyswithj246 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    6:07 i have only been to Wembly Park. I was staying in the area when Coldplay had shows in August 2022. I was easily able to get home via the tube once the concert started and was amazed how quickly the crowd of nearly 90,000 was able to get away. The police and security do a great job staggering the crowds to now cause stampedes or overcrowding of the tube stations.

  • @bobi7152
    @bobi7152 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    In Munich another example is the Theresienwiese, where Oktoberfest is held - it has 3 stations on 2 trunk lines, but it unfortunately isn’t enough and they sometimes have to be closed due to overcrowding. There are plans to make another station as part of a new trunk line, or expand some of the existing ones, but I don’t think this is happening in this century.

  • @signalwalid25trainz50
    @signalwalid25trainz50 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Stratford station in London was upgraded in preparation for the 2012 Olympics with services connected by tube, light rail (DLR), suburban rail thats links with Stansted Airport, two bus stations and a new station planned for Hs1& Eurostar service (didn't go through), today the stadium is now used for football events with the area around it being redeveloped

  • @thenerd6192
    @thenerd6192 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Nagoya Dome Mae Yada station is an example in the far east-actually two stations, one for guideway BRT and the other for the subway. No extra platforms, but an oversized number of ticket barriers, and you get the very long walk out of the station (past signage promoting the baseball team) to the stadium (or the nearby shopping centre, which was the reason I used it when I lived in Nagoya)

  • @hectorgarciarochera1053
    @hectorgarciarochera1053 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1:30 A couple of weeks ago they had a lot of traffic problems in Los Angeles, because there were three big events on the same night in the three arenas. It was chaos, there were even people who preferred to walk for 40-60 minutes to avoid having to take the car.

    • @tk80mufa5
      @tk80mufa5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hectorgarciarochera1053 if stadiums and arenas were generally more accessible for pedestrians and put closer to City Centers / Central Stations all that could be avoided...

  •  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm a German transit planner and I'm involved in planning the new "Arenen"-station at Volksparkstadion and Barcleys Arena in Hamburg on the completely new U5 line (opening entirely in ~2040). Looking at other stadium stations is key to plan out our new Hamburg stadium station.

    • @tk80mufa5
      @tk80mufa5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Viel Erfolg ! 👍
      Ich war 2006 zu Argentinien gegen Elfenbeinküste da , schön im Grünen gelegen , aber frag mich nicht wie ich die Anfahrt absolviert hab , bin auf jeden Fall mit der Bahn aus Berlin gekommen 🤔

  • @pizzaipinya2442
    @pizzaipinya2442 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What you said about the multiple stations at countries like Spain is so true!
    For example, in Barcelona you can get to Camp Nou from Les Corts (L3), Palau Reial (L3/Tram), Badal (L5), Collblanc (L5/L9/L10), and even some other further stations are sometimes used!

  • @illiiilli24601
    @illiiilli24601 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Didn't expect to see Optus Stadium mentioned here, nice

  • @christinecamley
    @christinecamley 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fabulous video!! Thanks so much!! 🙂

  • @EnjoyFirefighting
    @EnjoyFirefighting 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    despite the Allianz Arena having a suitable station rigth there, there are still large park garages right at the stadium; Even though the roads along the stadium are designed for a high traffic load, it's still not sufficient to counteract the massive traffic jams before the games ... personally I think that indicates that access by public transport should be better, taking more people from the car onto the subway

    • @Sp4mMe
      @Sp4mMe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Problem is there's borderline nothing you can do, I'd assume. It's too far out, there's nothing alternative to connect to - east and west blocked by nature reserve/parks anyway - and you obviously can't just build additional subway tracks all along the line for nothing but the occasional football game.
      Once they actually do the U9 that will help a little bit to decrease U6 traffic, freeing up some capacity for game days, but that's about it.

    • @EnjoyFirefighting
      @EnjoyFirefighting 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Sp4mMe I partly agree with you, however there would be solutions - anything from very basic to expensive ones.
      Basic and rather poor solution would be to have some busses running out to the stadium for games as well - low tech low capacity and not really a solution I admit.
      An expensive solution would be a similar project like the loop closure east of the airport: technically you could build a loop from the stadium alongside highway 99 to Hasenbergl borough and linking to the northern stretch of U2 subway. Alternative to running parallel to highway 99 would be completing the loop further north, splitting somewhere at Hochbrück and going around via Oberschleißheim. Although lots of nature, there are quite a few existing corridors which could be widened a bit for that purpose

    • @egito9930
      @egito9930 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rio de Janeiro does it a lot better

    • @EnjoyFirefighting
      @EnjoyFirefighting 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@egito9930 when claiming that you should at least tell us why exactly they're doing it better ...

    • @tk80mufa5
      @tk80mufa5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Traffic jams around stadiums during match days are unavoidable , happens every country , every city , every large-size sport venue .
      People just have to accept it.
      For Bayern Munich there are only 17 home games in their domestic league , a few potential but not guaranteed domestic cup games ( no more than 5 ? ) , and no more than 8 Champions League home games.
      So that's 30 games a season , out of 365 days a year ( excluding Summer Olympic years ).
      That's not even 10% of annual days.
      Don't think it would be economical to invest for improvement just for these games.
      Plus the tickets are expensive anyway.
      Btw IIRC the chairmen of Bayern back in the day were furious that the City of Munich made them built a Parking Garage?! to fulfill at least minimum German Civil Engineering requirements for stadiums or something... real classy guys...

  • @at0mly
    @at0mly 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Oakland had a great setup with the Warriors (Basketball), A's (Baseball), and Raiders (American Football) all playing at venues that were hosted at Coliseum station on both BART and Amtrak, which is also the station to transfer to the airport train, before they lost all three teams to other cities because Oakland voters refuse to give millions of dollars away to billionaires and giant corporations to build new venues.

    • @barryrobbins7694
      @barryrobbins7694 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      In the long run, Oakland will be better off without those sports teams, if they redevelop that land wisely. There are plenty of sports to watch in the Bay Area when college sports teams are included.

  • @eechauch5522
    @eechauch5522 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Germany has quite a lot of these. Basically all of the Stadtbahn/ tram systems serving a big stadium have some kind of special station to handle additional vehicles and crowds or straight up event-only branches. Because while a tram has much better capacity then a bus, they suddenly are very small when emptying a stadium.
    Additionally many cities built new arenas in the last few decades, often with the main focus on highway access and parking, rather then renovating the existing stadiums close to the city. Positive examples would be Bochum, Hamburg, Bremen or Karlsruhe, who all opted to modernize/ rebuild their stadiums, instead of green field developing somewhere else. Consequently these stadiums all don’t have much special transit infrastructure.
    Negative examples would include Mainz, Augsburg or Mönchengladbach, which gave up their stadiums and moved to the outskirts. Augsburg does run a great gameday tram service though with an event-only station and loop, so it fits perfectly into the topic of the video.

  • @felixw19
    @felixw19 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    8:24 you talk about the S-Bahn, but the map shows the U-Bahn...

  • @shazrahman8556
    @shazrahman8556 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wembley stadium is in the middle of a dense urban area. There is also wembley central underground station a 10-15 minute walk from the stadium and loads of bus routes. When I go there I tend to get a bus there and walk back afterwards as the area takes ages to clear after events, even with it's amazing public transport links.

    • @fortuna1232
      @fortuna1232 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not to mention that they tend to put on extra trains and specific trains for events, like the play off finals.

  • @rogersexton7857
    @rogersexton7857 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Thank you Reece for an absolutely superb video packed full of lots of examples of how things should be done, and just one example (Los Angeles) of how things should not be done. For a (rare) European example of how things should NOT be done, go to Gelsenkirchen in the Rhurgebiet in Germany. There, there is a major soccer stadium five kms (three miles) from the city centre served only by a metre gauge light rail line. At the recent European soccer championships, the Gelsenkirchen stadium hosted four games, two of then involving a a good and well-supported team called England! There were major problems with the transport, but not with the (long-suffering) fans.

    • @LeZylox
      @LeZylox 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mönchengladbach Stadium has this problem aswell :(

    • @tk80mufa5
      @tk80mufa5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ...and they complained to the media and called the City of Gelsenkirchen a not so nice word 😂

  • @wolfpackcub
    @wolfpackcub 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! Would love to see cover more mistakes like the Meadowlands in New Jersey 😅

  • @MaxCheng95
    @MaxCheng95 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hong Kong has a sports station literally named Racecourse. It’s on the East Rail Line that branches off from the main line that serves Sha Tin Racecourse when horse race events are held on the racecourse.
    Down at Hong Kong Island there’s another racecourse, Happy Valley Racecourse, that almost got its own MTR station when South Island Line was being built, but the station never materialized because the Hong Kong Jockey Club didn’t want to pay for the extra HKD$200m MTR demands to build the exit to the racecourse, and MTR decided the hypothetical Happy Valley station without the racecourse doesn’t justify the additional journey times it incurs. That being said the tram already serves the neighborhood since time immortal so it’s not entirely without public transit when need be.

  • @saulschlapik6818
    @saulschlapik6818 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    A perfect example of why rail transit is so important is LA's Dodger Stadium, which doesn't have it. When Kirk Gibson hit his dramatic home rum in the 1988 World Series, there were hundreds, maybe even thousands of fans who missed it because they were trying to beat the traffic.

    • @MrBirdnose
      @MrBirdnose 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dodger Stadium is probably impossible to serve with rail because of the steep hill it's on. There's plans for a gondola but I don't expect that to help much.

  • @alcubierrevj
    @alcubierrevj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    NRG station in Philly is the Broad Street line metro station serving the Sports Complex which are 2 stadiums (football and baseball) and an arena (basketball and hocky) surrounded by huge parking lots. I believe the parking lots are used primarily by suburban fans and tailgaters while Philly residents usually take the train in BSL. It also possible to take suburban rail to Philly's massive 30th street station and two transfers later get to NRG station too.

  • @cqholt
    @cqholt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    MARTA in Atlanta has the GWCC/Dome/CNN Center station that serves Mercedes-Benz Stadium, State Farm Arena, & Georgia World Congress Center. There is also a pedestrian bridge from this area to the next subway station, Vine City. MARTA will run shuttle trains during events between these stations and Five Points Stn, the main metro transfer station.

  • @philplasma
    @philplasma 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Metro here in Montreal was built for Expo67 and the Olympics and Pie IX station is the one that I suppose would be considered a sports station with design in mind with bigger platforms and wider stair wells. In modern day the Bell Centre has Lucien L'allier on one side and Bonaventure on another and neither were designed as sports stations but they can handle the ~22000 people exiting at a full capacity game or event.

    • @leoncchow
      @leoncchow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wonder how Atwater station was at handling hockey crowds from the old Forum. Toronto's College station is quite small, but I think people hung around the neighborhood around MLG before and after the game. Sort of like Wrigley.

  • @thefreshmaker001
    @thefreshmaker001 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Montreal is well-served for sports with the metro and REM connected to the Bell Centre, as well as the Saputo Stadium and Olympic Stadium, which are also linked to the metro.

    • @glaframb
      @glaframb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is also the Montréal Canadian Grand Prix were 100 000 F1 Racing fans trought the Metro Yellow Line 4 Sport Station Jean-Drapeau. The only poor Sport Station in Montréal is Canadian Football League (CFL) Montréal Alouettes Stadium Percival Molson who farther away from the McGill Metro than others. Shuttle bus make the rest of the route on Game Day.
      Even The AHL Team Laval Rocket Home Place Bell is closer to a Metro Station (Montmorency).
      As The home of Montréal Canadiens the Bell Centre is right of the Lucien-L'Allier Station and the numerous Exo Line while the next Station Gare Centrale - Bonanventure have the other Exo Line + the REM.
      The Club de Football Montréal (CFM) formely known as the Impact (Major League Soccer (MLS)) have the Saputo Stadium near Viau Station as their home which is closer to the former Vélodrome now revamp as the Montréal Biodome.
      Meanwhile the massive Roger Taillibert's 3B$ Olympic Stadium a.k.a. The big Owe that stadium was home of the former Montréal Expos (MLB) is locate at the Pie-IX station on the Green Line 1.

    • @MeITellYou
      @MeITellYou 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What a joke. Try getting out of the big o with 40000 ppl. The rem gets jammed up after the habs game as jean guy is too lazy to run extra trains after the game. Plus the rem is not under the bell centre, connected after a walk underground but faster to get there above ground. Do not mention anything from montreal when it comes to transit unless you are under a rock

  • @johnchambers8528
    @johnchambers8528 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You mentioned NewYork but here in Philadelphia we have a great two level large platform to serve all our three stadiums in south Philadelphia. When they extended the Broad Street Subway south to the new stadium complex they incorporated a huge station that could handle both the regular train service as well as dedicated express sports specials. Most of the time they only use the upper level but if they expect huge crowds there is a lower level where they can stage additional trains.

  • @alejo3781
    @alejo3781 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Sao Cristovao statio in Rio also features a huge elevated pedestrian promenade to serve Maracana Stadium. In Medellin, Colombia the Estadio Station leads to a kind of park promenad that connects with the Atanasio Girardot Stadium. Even in my home city of Lima, Peru the Estadio Nacional BRT station sees low usage outside of matchdays. There is some interesting transit in Latin America too!

  • @Drew-nv1op
    @Drew-nv1op 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At Philly’s three-stadium sports complex, NRG (Pattison) Station is the current end of the Broad Street Line, so extra trains can be queued for events. The station also has way more fare gates to handle that traffic, and the station is just far enough from the stadiums to allow a smoother flow of passengers. While Regional Rail isn’t nearby, there is freight right of way that could be utilized potentially if there were the appetite to expand regional rail.

  • @GaryDavidoff
    @GaryDavidoff 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A couple other people have already mentioned Pattison Station (currently branded NRG) at the southern end of Philadelphia's Broad Street Subway, which serves the "sports complex" of the baseball and football stadiums and a multipurpose arena. The station itself is enormous - besides a high count of fare gates, it's a double decker station with double length island platforms, so can *theoretically* load eight trains simultaneously. Plus, SEPTA runs sports express trains which reach downtown Philadelphia in like ten minutes.
    I remember coming back from concerts with the whole train singing songs from the show everyone just saw!

  • @petyobenov
    @petyobenov 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Don't forget that near MCG in Melbourne, apart of the trains, there is a dedicated tram line for adding transit capacity in case of events with special services. Other good example from Melbourne is Marvel Stadium -- on one side of it is Southern cross station, on the other side -- again regular tram services.

  • @ArchOfWinter
    @ArchOfWinter 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Racecourse station in Hong Kong is unique in the city. It is the only sport station and it only operate on race day where designated train will use it as the end of the line. The train announcement would even wish people good luck.

  • @Manuel-ie7pr
    @Manuel-ie7pr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's always a pleasure when your home town is mentioned 😀

  • @underground_e
    @underground_e 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice that you have mentioned my hometown, Munich, I was at Alianz Arena and saw how massive the infrastructure was

  • @urbanfile3861
    @urbanfile3861 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    An example from Milan which is a bit peculiar.
    M5 San Siro station, which serves San Siro football stadium, got a huge atrium at mezzanine level but quite regular platforms.
    But there is even an entrance at ground level, under a huge canopy, which has something quite unique to regulate crowd flow when people get out from the stadium to go and catch the metro.
    A file of 'meatgrinder' turnstyles (NYC Subway like) to get through and reach the mezzanine level so to enter the proper metro turnstyles.
    How do they work? They generally are open, but at the end of an event which toakes place at the stadium, when people come to the station all at once they start to work differently.
    The meatgrinders let just an extabilished max lot of people enter not to overcrowd the underground station. After this amont they get locked, till underground station is 'free', then they get opened again till another lot pass through and then locked again. And so on.
    Very effective. I don't know if there is somewhere else where they do the same.

  • @sunshiney_Sonnenschein
    @sunshiney_Sonnenschein 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Munich used to have a huge S-Bahn station for the olympics. Nowadays it's abandonned. Munich so rich they build throwaway-stations.

    • @tk80mufa5
      @tk80mufa5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The problem is stadiums and Olympics are white elephant , basically a huge scam only benefitting Swiss sports governing bodies , local politicians and building contractors.

  • @u1zha
    @u1zha 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool topic! Event stations are heroes of efficiency and foresight

  • @quoniam426
    @quoniam426 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Tram sport stations also exist in Nantes (La Beaujoire on line 1) and in Montpellier (La Mosson). They have double length platforms to segregate arrivals and departures.
    In Paris, Line 13 St Denis Porte de Paris is the closest but being on a branch and in a very unsafe area, especially during match days, that station is closed. RER stations and the new Pleyel Station on GPX and Line 14 (currently only Line 14) are further but preferred to be the main acesses as well as St Denis train station itself. T8 Tram also has a station at porte de Paris and is also closed during match hours for safety reasons.
    In Marseille, one of the two metro lines (the red one) goes all the way down to Velodrome Stadium, it's litterally beside it.
    And don't forget Montreal Olympic Park which has TWO stations on the same line to serve it.

    • @julienfenouil5782
      @julienfenouil5782 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Vélodrome actually has a stop on each end even

    • @quoniam426
      @quoniam426 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@julienfenouil5782 Oh true, Line 2's last two stops are evenly spaced around it and the line goes right around it. It's kinda like Montreal in that regard.

  • @botermossel
    @botermossel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:24 Amsterdam Bijlmer ArenA station also serves the Ziggo Dome and AFAS Live concert halls, plus the area of Bijlmer too. In the event-industry over here there's a phenomenon called a 'triple day', where events happen in all three locations at the same time (with visitor numbers entering the 100.000+ mark). If that happens, the event organisers have to upscale their operation to include the NS and emergency services, so that no-one gets stuck or stranded too easily. So it's not only the stadium but a whole entertainment area with more strings attached

  • @biot_travel
    @biot_travel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i was actually surprised how small Stadium station is in Singapore - you almost want to walk 15mins to Kallang station instead. doesnt matter about electronic signalling and driver-less trains when you dealing with surge capacity.

  • @afl300
    @afl300 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Speaking from someone from Melbourne and experience after and before sporting events, the flow into Richmond station is pretty smooth, not the best but at same time the design choice is smart too. Especially given that the entrance/exit to MCG open during special events.

  • @Jordan-gn7ny
    @Jordan-gn7ny 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Edmontons stadium station has recently been upgraded with an extra platform so that a spanish solution drop off can be used during events and on regular service it acts as one island platform. It may not be fully dedicated to serving the stadium or even be the best use since people have to walk across a street anyways but the street that people have to walk to is usually closed to traffic other than busses which come in to a large bus drop off point that in itself acts like a dedicated station. These uses only happen during events though then the bus drop off point is unused and the extra side platform is unused during regular service.

  • @paupadros
    @paupadros 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:05 when I was in Wembley, they actually told atendees to head to Wembley Central on the Bakerloo to relieve crowding on Wembley Park

  • @bentyler9571
    @bentyler9571 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yankee Stadium also has a very well used rail station that serves lirr and metro north all the way from New Haven.

    • @tf51d
      @tf51d 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It also has direct connection with the NY Subway the 4, B and D lines. Unlike all of the examples mentioned here, Yankee Stadium is right in the middle of a densely populated residential area of the city!

  • @mielole
    @mielole 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, RM! Just a small correctio from a local: at 9:25 you're showing RER B's Massy-Palaiseau station, rather than (i'm assuming you wanted to show) La Plaine Stade de France with its impressive ramps and (also) 2 island platforms.

  • @KingFinnch
    @KingFinnch 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Stratford definitely counts, so many lines and multiple routes in and out for stadium traffic
    it's also the 6th busiest station in the UK with ~200,000 passengers a day

  • @maxrdl
    @maxrdl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A couple more informations about Stade de France : they redirect people to different stations depending on your seat placement, it’s very efficient. You’ll get an email explaining everything a couple days before the event you attend to (areas A to H : RER B and M12 / J>N M13 / R>Z RER D and M14). The trains schedules are also adjusted, they run later and more often (RER B every 3m, RER D 6m, M12 every 5m, M13 3m, M14 85s). There are also other services nearby (T1 and T8, Train H).

  • @danielaguiar7756
    @danielaguiar7756 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A couple of additional things to mention regarding MCG/Melbourne Park and how it splits up the traffic.
    - Richmond (for Eastern and South Eastern suburbs) opens the entrance closest to the stadiums only for events. They will also close off Brunton Ave to cars so it becomes a big pedestrian pathway leading to it.
    - Jolimont Station (for North Eastern Suburbs) to the north also helps disperse the traffic
    - 3 tram lines (70, 75, 48 for inner eastern suburbs) also help and the platforms there are oversized
    - Getting back to Flinders Street Station (the main one for all the other suburbs) is an easy 20 mins walk through some nice gardens on dedicated pedestrian ramps and paths the whole way so again it’s not just Richmond taking the brunt of the traffic.
    - additional services are also run to coincide with the events including regional (to other towns) services.
    Though very rare it is feasibly possible to have 160k people in and around the precinct
    (100k MCG, 30k AAMI, 15k each RLA and MCA)
    The Flemington Racecourse and Showgrounds stations as well as how Marvel Stadium and Southern Cross Station are integrated are defs worth exploring

  • @deetoher
    @deetoher 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The need for space between the station and the stadium is why they often close Lansdowne Rd station at the Aviva station in Dublin to make people walk a bit further to the next stations.
    Although both major stadiums in Dublin (Croke Park and the Aviva) are in walking distance to the city centre.

  • @rdp316
    @rdp316 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In the Twin Cities our two light rail lines serve every major sports facility with two stations directly part of the facility itself at Target Field (baseball) and US Bank Stadium (NFL). Since they are interlined between those two stations you can also get to Target Center (NBA) with a 1 block walk from an intermediate station.
    Target Field Station has an interesting setup with two tandem platforms, one for each for both the Green and Blue Line. Plus it’s the terminus for our commuter heavy rail line that sometimes runs special game day services.
    The Green Line further goes on to serve a college football stadium (with hockey and basketball 1/2 walk away); MLS soccer stadium (a two block walk); NHL area (1/2 mile walk); and a minor league baseball stadium (3-4 block walk).

    • @17tubemaster
      @17tubemaster 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That Target Field set up is fine when there's no events going on, but it's a nightmare to navigate after a game, especially if you want the Green line.

  • @aidanfolkes
    @aidanfolkes 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    There's definitely something special about Olympic way, the pedestrianised road that leads from Wembley park station to the stadium. When arriving, the buildings on each side frame the stadium as you leave the station.
    And on the way out it does, as you say, provide a great buffer to the crowds producing an electric atmosphere.

    • @shazrahman8556
      @shazrahman8556 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@aidanfolkesthe walk from wembley park to to the stadium always feels special. Even when there is no event on and I'm just going to the co-op!

    • @lawrenceporter8389
      @lawrenceporter8389 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Virtually everyone complains about how hard it is to get to and from Wembley so clearly all is not right.

    • @theobrigham
      @theobrigham 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@lawrenceporter8389 How is difficult to get to? There's 3 tube lines and national rail nearby

    • @RMTransit
      @RMTransit  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its epic!

    • @arpwable
      @arpwable 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's great to arrive at Wembley that way, always gives such a buzz. I never leave that way though, it takes SO long to get back. Wembley Stadium Station afterwards is the way to go!

  • @MSP_aviation
    @MSP_aviation 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Target Field Station in Downtown Minneapolis serves both the Metro Blue and Green lines and is the terminus for the Northstar Commuter Rail with its station beneath the Light Rail. There are technically two different stations which are served on all trips by both lines during regular service (pretty redundant honestly) but are split after Twins games with Blue Line Trains leaving from Target Field 1, featuring a Spanish solution platform which is only utilized after games (normally it’s just an island platform), and Green Line Trains leaving from Target Field 2, a side platform station which for now only serves departing passengers. Northstar also runs event services to Twins and Vikings Games from Target Field Station.

  • @ViniciusSC10
    @ViniciusSC10 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Some examples from São Paulo:
    Palmeiras’ Allianz Parque is 1 km away from Palmeiras-Barra Funda Terminal which has a metro line and two CPTM suburban lines (will be getting a third one soon). And will get a second subway station 800m away in 2026-27.
    Corinthians’ Arena has Corinthians-Itaquera station which has a metro line and one CPTM suburban line.
    Also Pacamebu stadium is near the Clínicas Station and will be getting an second one in 2026-27.
    And the greatest thing: Palmeiras and Corinthians are fierce rivals and the same subway line serves both of them. The line starts at Palmeiras-Barra Funda and ends at Corinthians-Itaquera.

  • @hnitsua
    @hnitsua 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dat timing when u posted this, I was thinking before how massive dodgers stadium was that u could host the concerts there instead, but most of that spac is taken up by cars.

  • @christopherwaller2798
    @christopherwaller2798 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    North Greenwich is another London example. Whilst it also serves a lot of local commuter traffic as various south east London bus routes connect there; there is a 3 platform layout which allows for a westbound island platform, useful for event traffic to the O2 Arena. The Emirates Stadium is an inner urban example served by multiple stations, but interestingly, Drayton Park is closed on match days due to its narrow island platform. If this station was upgraded, it could provide some useful extra capacity.

  • @cloudkitt
    @cloudkitt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was recently in Kansas City and went to a baseball game there and was kinda stunned that even though there are two stadiums right next to each other, there was absolutely no transit to get you there. Just absolutely expansive parking lots in all directions and we were advised to schedule ubers so we weren't stuck there until 2 am.
    Philadelphia's stadium district has a lot of parking, but not to that degree, and there's a fairly high-capacity subway station directly connecting to Center City.

  • @rafaelcervantes4143
    @rafaelcervantes4143 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Athens, the stations on line 1 serving both the Olympic Stadium and Olympiacos's stadium have huge island platforms to allow for ease of access. Neo Faliro, the one that serves Olympiacos's stadium is particularly interesting because it's built right between two stadiums (one for basketball which is part of a larger sports complex and one for football) and it has passages and separations for both stadiums, not to mention really long underground and elevated walkways to make access easier and separate for people in the neighbourhood and travelling fans.

  • @joaofidalgo6947
    @joaofidalgo6947 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Estádio do Dragão, Porto, Portugal
    Metro station beneath the stadium, leading to the main train station only one stop away

  • @JBS319
    @JBS319 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A lack of transit capacity has been the major snag in the expansion of Stadion an der Alten Försterei from a 22,000 capacity to 40,000 capacity. There is a tram stop outside the stadium, but the bulk of traffic heads to S-Köpenick, which does have turnback tracks east of the station to allow for extra services to Ostkreuz and Waurschauer Straße. But the main entrance is on one end of the platform, which can cause crowding at that end. With R-Köpenick on the RE1 under construction and scheduled to open in the next few years. 1.FC Union Berlin has permission to open their expansion for the 2027-2028 season.
    When the new Yankee Stadium opened in 2009, it was followed a few months later by the Yankees-153rd St station. While the Hudson Line generally is double or triple track through the Bronx, it expands to four tracks with two island platforms at the station. It is served by regular Hudson Line local trains to Croton Harmon, but on days when the Yankees are playing, there are additional shuttles from Grand Central and all Hudson Line trains stop there. On weekends there are even "Yankee Clipper" special trains from the New Haven and Harlem Lines directly to Yankee Stadium using a typically non-revenue third leg of the Mott Haven wye.
    12th and Imperial has Spanish Solution platforms to serve Petco Park. And Providence Park station has an extra platform for special events. Just to name a few.

  • @alberto_rldn
    @alberto_rldn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is a great example in Eindhoven, where there's a small platform for one track that is only used when there are matches at the Philips Stadium. Usually only 4 tracks are used in that segment of the track, beeing the fifth one the special one for events!
    Also in Madrid there is a massive station built at the Metropolitano Stadium (not the Santiago Bernabeu) with a lot of space and direct exit to the stadium gates!

  • @singapuu7643
    @singapuu7643 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Berlin Olympiastadion would be the largest such station I know with 8 terminating tracks for events in addition to the 2 regular through tracks.

  • @stevenroshni1228
    @stevenroshni1228 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When the Brooklyn Dodgers wanted a new stadium at Atlantic Terminal pictured at 0:15 Robert Moses wanted to send them to now Mets-Willets Point 3:15 but they rejected that due to remoteness and opted to move to LA instead. There's currently plans in the approvals phase to develop the land around the station with housing and shopping.

  • @jameswebb254
    @jameswebb254 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The thing that bugs me the most about LA is that all of the stadiums that you mentioned are on the EXACT SAME road that goes into the airport, so making an elevated metro line shouldn't be that difficult but it is.

  • @Oilerfan5
    @Oilerfan5 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Commonwealth’s recent station reno has definitely made it a lot more open, just wish the Elks were enough to increase frequency on weekends coinciding with the park and ride buses. Metallica and Pink did.

  • @marekmarkiewicz166
    @marekmarkiewicz166 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    National Stadium in Warsaw. Great service thanks to the huge M2 metro station, which has a designated space for increased traffic during events at the stadium. In the near future, a metro station of the M3 line will also be built to the stadium. In addition, the stadium is served by "SKM" city rail stations (lines S1, S2 and S3). As if transport was not enough, there are tram lines around the stadium, allowing you to reach every part of the city. Great service

  • @j41500
    @j41500 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So glad the Caps and Wizards are going to be staying at Capital One (not glad that Bowser is paying Ted $500M+ for renovating the arena he owns, but thats another story). It doesn't have the queuing ability for extra trains, but it's on two different sets of tracks that serves 3 Metro lines and the rest of the lines run through Metro Center only a few blocks away. When managed with extra trains running through the tunnels around when games end, you can get home so quickly. Such a great location and it was insane that a plan to put a new arena (Capital One isn't all that old) out in the suburbs almost happened.

  • @monstronaut4912
    @monstronaut4912 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    San Diego has really good connection to Petco Park, there’s the red trolley, regional Coaster, and Amtrak that stop in the heart of downtown. And helps serve Comic Con too.
    Plus the trolley has a station at Snapdragon Stadium.

  • @andrelam9898
    @andrelam9898 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One station that is pretty small, but has handled monster peak passenger loads is Zandvoort trains station at the end of the F1 race. During the weekend leading up to the race, NS puts in a bunch of extra trains throughout the day to get people too and from Amsterdam Centraal to Zandvoort. From there it’s a short walk to the race track. During practice days they get lots of visitors, but their arrival and departure is a bit spread out. At the end of the actual race however you have over 100,000 people trying to leave. Car traffic is severely restricted. They do have an area for tour busses (I’m guessing they have to pre register to ensure there is space and some VIP parking for mini busses. There are also around 40,000 people arriving by bicycle. The rest is trains. The NS has it arranged that at the end of the race they have a train pull up to the station every 5 minutes. They alternate tracks so one side it loading while on the other side a train is pulling in. That allows tens of thousands of passengers to be brought inland (Haarlem and Amsterdam) while using a small station

  • @andrewehyang
    @andrewehyang 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The idea that having distance between the stadium and the station is a good thing was pretty mind blowing but definitely makes sense. Its just not fun doing that walk to the station.

  • @snowless456
    @snowless456 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The thumbnail made me think about Giants Stadium (Now MetLife Stadium) and its transit connection. It was built in 2009 as a branch off NJ Transit’s Pascack Valley commuter rail line, but only runs between Secaucus and the stadium a few hours before, during, and after the events. NJT also wants to build a bus terminal in one of the lots in the near future

  • @rwrynerson
    @rwrynerson 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Berlin also has an extra wide platform at the Wassersport Tribune for trams. It was Rte 86 for the 1936 Olympics ("The Boys In the Boat"), now is Rte 68. It also has an unusual feature, a turnback loop from the OUTER end of the line at Gruenau S-Bahn station, so that extras could run from the S-Bahn station along the shoreline to the outer end of the line at Alt-Schmoeckwitz without covering the entire route.

  • @domo_hudson
    @domo_hudson 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Indeed there are more P.T. connections like the Trams and Buses and Jolimont station outside MCG in Melbourne, and more stadia and entertainment spaces that serve the whole Olympic Boulevard area, tennis courts, basketball/netball arena, AAMI Park for Rugby & Soccer.
    Not only this, but up the line in Melbourne there's Southern Cross station which people literally ascend stairs and walk across a bridge to get to the now titled Marvel Stadium, (used to be Etihad Stadium - has had several names). Southern Cross station is a much larger hub serving many more Metro lines, but also Regional services, and there is still the access to Trams outside Southern Cross main doors on Spencer Street.
    Cool video!😊

  • @골드나인
    @골드나인 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are a few sports stadium metro stations in Korea, Sports Complex in Seoul and Busan, World Cup Stadium Station in Seoul and Daejeon, and Munhak Sports Complex Station in Incheon, Etc.
    Also, in Japan, there is Koshien Station, the most important business of Hanshin Railways.

  • @maritimefred
    @maritimefred 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stockholm has done a very good job consolidating arenas and shopping centers. One of those is globen and friends arena. There’s a tram as well as subway from the same station. Another is arenastaden and both commuter rail (with X60 EMU’s) and trams with a subway station being built currently on a brand new line.

  • @hpsauce1078
    @hpsauce1078 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My first thought when thinking about London would actually be Stratford, the olympic park was partly placed there due to the well connected logistics of the site, but today the area hosts regular bouts of Sports games and concerts on top of the regular commuter and retail traffic the site gets already.

  • @zombiefreed
    @zombiefreed 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The London Stadium, where the 2012 UK Olympics was held, now home of West Ham United Football Club, served by Stratford Station (3rd busiest station in the UK) and its surrounding stations two of which also bare the name ‘Stratford’ in their titles as well as Maryland (not the US one), Hackney Wick and Pudding Mill Lane (yes, thats a real station name).😂

  • @stenl4862
    @stenl4862 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In Germany Fanclubs of football teams will/can hire special trains for their away-games. So you arrive at your rivals city in style!

  • @ironlynx9512
    @ironlynx9512 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One little detail about Amsterdam Bijlmer ArenA:
    The stadium has a separate second train station, dedicated to the seats for supporters of the visiting team where, if the visiting fans are particularly rowdy, a non-stop train can be chartered to take the away fans home, without having to mix them into the crowds at the main station. And I do mean non-stop. So if, say, a game of Ajax-PSV decided to get particularly rowdy, then the organisers would call NS, order a direct train from ArenA to Eindhoven, and drag a trainload of away fans out of the city immediately. Those fans would not exit the train until Eindhoven Centraal.

  • @cubedmax
    @cubedmax 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know it’s not purpose built as an event stadium, but 34th St - Hudson Yards on the NYC Subway is a pretty effective one, thanks to its proximity to both the Javitts Center and MSG, and the the good amount of queue space and escalators that prevent crowding on the platform. It’s also built for quick turnarounds for trains, since unlike many NYC terminals, it’s not a stub end.

  • @TalwinderDhillonTravels
    @TalwinderDhillonTravels 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Montreal’s Pie Neuf and Viau stations are pretty good sports stations. Bonaventure station downtown also does a great job at connecting to Centre Bell