Something I wanna see is something like the physics mod added into the game I wanna be able to interact with everything use anything and everything as a weapon more chaos is what makes the game fun and makes it feel real I want the AI to actually be cocky/serious or cowardly or literally unhinged not letting up on me creating a challenge I want to be able to fight all over the arena including the backstage the parking lot, locker rooms hell even up the stairs of the arena and to the areas where fans buy food and merch and use all of that as weapons it's not PS4 or PS5 or Xbox it's the fact that 2k has no competition and they only want money and we keep giving it to them we gotta stand up otherwise they'll keep scamming us out of are wallets 🤔🤦🏾🤷🏽
My new challenge is going all with paper view mode and training mode and contact sanding mode and immortal mode and new clothing and accessories and new future people mode about new look as a grownups and age mode and create demons and create clothing and right handit lefthanded mode immortal anrea mode and haircut mode and the songs mode just about our favourite music titration dissing mode and return game play macht
@theprowrestlingshoot, Where do I begin? Let me talk to ya YEAH! 1) Get rid of MyFaction 2) Get rid of MyGM 3) Revamp The Creation Suite a) ability to combine hairstyles b) no more preselected names c) edit your own call name d) more cities listed for all US states and foreign countries e) ability to alter facial hair and head hair for in-game male stars f) ability to alter head hair for in-game female stars g) ability to decrease AI opponent attributes to 0, to avoid aggressive backlash h) bring back custom finishers and add custom tag team finishers i) more generic title motions j) more generic entrances k) bring back custom entrance music (in other words...MAKE A DEAL WITH SPOTIFY) 4) more classic arenas to play with (Nitro/Thunder/Starrcade/Attitude Era Raw/etc) without creating it 5) decrease amount of objectives in showcase mode to 10 only in every match played, and make them easy to perform 6) better blood mechanics to show crimson mass of blood 7) ability to double-stack tables and set them on fire 8) ability to perform top rope moves with weapons 9) ability to cash in MIB briefcase where it actually works during mid match or end of match. 10) bring back breaking the barricade better and easier like an OMG move like before This is just my opinion, this is what I would like. I've realized for a long time the game devs don't care about the fans ever and what they want, that's just reality! They never have and never will. Have a great day!🤘😎
Facts I'm not into playing or buying card miss the old school games like no mercy here comes the pain shut your mouth 2k14 had the best roster 2k19 was good big heads reminded me of nba jam
They can’t fix this universe mode. Anytime they try and do something they break something else. They need to take a couple years off and build a new engine
Facts. I don't care about myFaction! I'm here for a better Universe mode. And for Heaven and Hell's sake, BRING BACK Create a Story mode. Last time we had it was in WWE 2K14, bring that baby back!
@@TheRaven_200 Funny you mention that, because the recent new Dragon Ball game is going to actually have their own Create a Story Mode in there. It's a tragedy that 2K, with all their resources can't even bother to *try*.
Better selling would hook me back in. Wrestlers not getting right back up after a big move, I wanna see some limp body animation after being beat down and actually selling limb damage.
YES! Selling is a major aspect of pro wrestling. The fact that they still haven’t legitimately began to incorporate it into the gameplay is pretty sad.
@@juantooquiet FACTS. They took a dope feature and just whored it out to everyone and devalued the hell out of it while managing to make it have a negative impact on gameplay. It’s such a fail that it’s almost impressive. Tragic 🫤
1. Get Rid of My Faction 2. Fix the Lighting Presentations and Pyros 3. ADD TOURNAMENTS TO UNIVERSE MODE 4. Overall fix to Universe 5. Fix the entrance creation suite
I totally agree with this. They have to improve the lighting. Imo it’s been looking the same since 2K22. It looks dim when the wrestlers make their entrance
Get rid of MyFaction? Nah, get rid of MyGM... I really don't see why MyGM is separate from Universe Mode... Implement it there as a third option to switch from Classic and Superstar Mode within Universe Mode.
I miss being able to do a chair shot into a DDT on a chair or pulling off the Van Dam throw and kick the chair move. Hell, I remember being able to use a chair for an off the rope moonsault with Sabu.
The animations in the old games like HCTP and SVR were so perfect. Every wrestler felt unique, with crisp, snappy gameplay. Why cant we just have a modern version of that?
Those were the "key-framed" animations he was referring to. Instead of mocapping how they do now, keyframing allowed to tailor moves precisely how wrestler would execute them. The drawback tho, is that it takes more time to do it that way for developers. Mocap is more convenient for them but could be a hit or miss depending on the performer/wrestler they have to reenact them.
@@WFXMediaMo cap is better because interrupting animations would be easier to make fluid. Key framed looked good but those games didnt have interference until way later in the franchise
I might be an outlier here, but the thing that made Here Comes the Pain my favorite wrestling game of all time was how it could go from being a simple wrestling game to something completely outlandish. Dragging people while riding a motorcycle, hitting an elbow drop from a helicopter or tossing someone off the top of the SmackDown hotel.
I think a wrestling game ever years is hurting them and its hurting us the fans the people, maybe if wwe game came out every 2 years instead like ufc it will be a longer running game
To that effect, I loved how interactive backstages where and some cool, unique features. I don't know if it was HCTP, but you could go into the locker room, then into the workout room, run on a treadmil, then toss an opponent into the hot shower and break through a wall! Bring that kind of multi-player interactivity back! But also, simple, common sense controls. I want one button for timed reversals. Counter animations should make sense for the weight class of the wrestler. I want button-mashing for kicking out of pins and submissions because it feels right, but not allowing the CPU to be expert at it, unfair to human players. Resilience abilities for some should be more than 1 per match, like Rey Mysterio, is known for more resilience than usual. Rope break animations, too! Also I love being able to take objects from the crowd or under the ring. It was fun to grab a drink from a fan in the crowd, drink it and spit it out at the opponent almost like a poison mist move! There are lots of great additions over the years, like Community Creations makes it so nice to download well done CAWs as well as arenas, entrances and move-sets. Keep that stuff! I got WWE 2k19 still but I'm thinking I'll wait until 2k25 to get another WWE game.
1. Wrestling games mentioned in this video had the little things right. 2. They paid attention to detail. 3. It felt like you were using the actual wrestlers you chose. (In 2k, the rock still doesn't have his signature stomps) 4. Better game modes. Like road to wrestlemania and season mode. Along with create a ppv. 5. Universe mode offered surprises and branching storylines involving 3 superstars. 6. Controls were simple and effective 7. Impact of moves was satisfying 8. The devs felt like they were genuine wrestling fans themselves. Not just guys hired to make a wrestling game.
Another big bug bare for me with today's games is that the wrestlers movesets always seemed random and full of moves said wrestler wouldn't do in real life. It's just lazy and you spend alot of your time having to swap moves around, which isn't really your job. There is a distinct lack of attention to detail with today's wrestling games in terms of the actual wrestling. The visuals and presentation are better than they've ever been though.
Honestly the only thing that would honestly hook me to 2k25 if they just change universe all together new layout new cutscenes, better rival system and , make the the ppv on the calendar right. It’s always out of order.
2k19 is the way to go wish they evolved that style instead of moving to a new engine still play everyday have all CAW slots filled and prolly won’t buy another wwe game for a very long time
I still have WWE 2k19 and haven't got a new WWE game since. MAYBE 2k25 will hook me. We will see. Yeah, reversals and counters are pretty wrestling-like in 2k19 and selling is pretty good as well.
Same here. I haven't bought a new wrestling game since 2K19. When the server was still up, I downloaded so many wrestlers that the game still feels current.
1. Focus on the in-ring gameplay (Mini games like we seen in SvR 2006, No combo system, and I always advocated for a “spot” system where you can do a certain criteria picked before the match and a cutscene/dramatic moment is played out to add dimension to the match. Think about some of the cool scenes in showcase mode but in an actual match you’re playing to tell stories in the ring) 2. Focus on Universe Mode. This can be massive and they have yet to put the effort in. 3. Remove MyFaction. 4. Audio overhaul. The crowd needs to sound better, hits sound better, and the commentary. 5. More match customization options. Still feels limited. 6. Selling damage
they should expand on the character creation options like removing wrestler logos from cool looking WWE items so that it can work with CAWS. also it'd be cool if referees were improved cause they mostly just stand there the whole match and dont care if you're doing illegal moves on the ropes/corner.
I hate that one of the highlights of a HIAC match is when the wrestlers go to war outside of the ring, yet you can’t do squat with weapons or perform moves bc the space between the ring and cell is too confined.
For WWE 2K25 I want them to revamp the crowd & make the crowd sound more lively gradually as the wrestler makes there way to the ring. Make Theme Songs louder too
Chain wrestling, one button reversal I’m so sick of the guessing which button hit the five count for the rope break and better selling animation like when you work over a body part like the arm or leg holding their arm or can’t run as fast or limping throughout the match better interaction with the environment like the ring post i use it to work over the arm or leg like it was in a older SmackDown game. I can’t remember which game and make it hard to reverse moves as the match goes on or if u take alot damage is harder for you to reverse
Two-button reversals are better. In a game like Here Comes The Pain, you have to anticipate what your opponent is going to do. Which is really good for competitive play. The reversals became garbage once they switched to one button. It became extremely inconsistent and the timing never felt accurate. A lot of people turned off the prompts because they conflicted with the animation queues. But sometimes it was better to look at the prompts and sometimes it was better to look at the animation. It never felt fair or polished. Any wrestling game that has two reversal buttons always feels like there's just a lot less bullshit and gimmicks.
A deeper creative suite, 200 CAW spots. Show intros, promos, and for move to work properly. Bring back buried Alive and inferno match, revamp the ladder match back to 8 points instead of 5, that’s all off the top, it’s much more.
FIX Universe Mode!!! The crazy thing is, they tell you what is wrong, but it doesn't get fixed. I believe they need to start going in to a 3-5 year cycle for the game. Have yearly roster updates, they can still have their DLC's throughout the year, but have a major DLC each year, and actually take the time, or have the time to fix Universe Mode. Make a better GM mode. And the major DLC's can bring new match types ect. But this will give them the same platform for longer than 1 year and allow it to be fixed.
I remember when playing smackdown here comes the pain, we had so many match types Like slobber knocker, 3 stages of hell and much more. The animations of the moves were all different. every move had a different animation. For instance the swanton bomb had 3 different animations the stone cold stunner. The creation suite. Back then they made you wanna play a wrestling game. Now it just feels lackluster in a way. I really hope that 2k can really put in effort for 2k25. Make us really intrigued again.
I haven't played WWE games since 2k19. Do they have Special Referee mode back yet? Or No DQ and Falls Count Anywhere match with multi-players that can go backstage and all over the arena? Those were some of my favourite gimmick matches. And ladder matches are more fun if you can stack tables, ladders that can be more interactive and CPU AI that doesn't constantly tear down tables that were set up, which is an annoying aspect of 2k19, for an otherwise not bad wrestling game.
I just want those old weapons physics back where you can slam someone on to steps or a ladder. And better heel-ish behavior. Like I would really love playing as Triple H if there were more actions we could take as a heel.
I miss being able to start a match with one wrestler having some damage already. I feel like it would add more to universe as backstage attacks would actually matter or having someone have multiple matches in one night. Rivalries need to be more than just wrestling the same person every week. Universe mode still needs a lot of love.
Personally I think the days of WWE games being good are gone and not coming back. The people at 2K made up their minds with what they’re going to do with it because WWE is a big brand they’re gonna coast until their contract is up WWE will probably sign with them again and they’ll be back to coasting. They don’t care what you and I think they may pretend to hear you and add in very minuscule additions but the state the current game is in is enough for them they fool people into buying it every year monetizing their trash myfaction mode and off to the next game they could careless about what you want and its not just WWE there’s many established game series that don’t care it’s all about monetization the art and the heart behind video games is long gone and for the most part only lives in indie games these days. 2K19 was the last true wrestling game by WWE that played great didn’t try to gouge your wallet and hardly ever crashed and was loaded with features and unlockables it was taking steps forward only for VC to fall and take many steps back like honestly how can it be this bad and so many people, so many people swipe it under the rug? It’s all there is thats why and thats why 2K is gonna get away with taking your money and not be in any rush to put out anything of substance. This era will be an era people will never revisit trust me.
I think they did a lot right on 2k24. With giving you different game modes and matches that were new. What I feel like is the universe mode didn’t change much from last year. What would it take for me to buy the next installment. Were I would say take my money is the online play in universe mode up to 6players where one can build there own rosters and show s and let your friends join your universe mode and play. Also setting a mode where you can draft your own players for each show as maybe another option in universe mode. Fixing the rankings a little bit better when you beat someone it pushes them down the board. Like the original smackdown game did or bringing them up the rankings. That would be fire
I’m a simple man myself I just want a season mode like ones we had in the past, where in don’t have to be a Caw I just want to play as my favorite superstar and go through a season of what I see on tv, cause universe mode ain’t cutting it, great video man!
A really simple thing that I’ve missed since it got removed that would instantly bring me back would be the ability to lean ladders and tables against anything rather than having the specific prompts.
they really have to go back to how the controls were for 2k19. they don't need all those moves in the game especially the combos, that's way too many. the game needs to be coded better, they should hold off on adding new features until they fix the issues the game is having. Like you said, bring back Chain wrestling etc, make wrestling games feel like wrestling games.
@@mrkoy5047 I 1100% agree and I don't know why they made it into a fighting style wrestling game, I mean who asked for this? I was okay with the way reversals were set up in 2k19 where you had to use them wisely.
A complete ground-up build of Universe Mode and pack it out with all the features fans have been asking for for years. Also having everything in universe mode work smoothly.
It will take so much for me to buy 2k25 after dumping so much money into 2k22, 2k23, and now 2k24. I've grown tired of the things removed from the game and the things added are fun for awhile, but also get old fast. Thus game needs so much more realism and interaction. It needs announcer interaction, crowd interaction, a bunch of areas past the guardrails to do battle, the ability to setup custom arenas with weapons surrounding it, I want Texas tornado, Earthquake, road warriors, Demolition, Rick Martel, Greg Valentine, Warlord, The Mountie, Sid, Beefcake, Duggan .. SICK OF ALL SAME LEGENDS. We only need 2 Hogans, 2 Stone Colds, 2 Cenas, 2 Takers, STOP GIVING US 5-10 VERSIONS OF EVERY LEGEND. Also .. what would be really really cool... a way to setup custom rosters according to the shows in real time so we can pick matches according to rosters. ALSO MAKE THE ROSTER GUYS EDITABLE WITHOUT USING A SAVE SLOT!!!
#HookMe2K25 A Road To Wrestlemania mode rather than MyRise. Something like we had when we could roam the backstage area and run-in on a random match if you weren't on the card. Excellent work my friend! I salute you and give you a standing "O"! Masterpiece!
A game that actually works and doesn't have 50 or more bugs or glitches BEFORE release. I think fans are getting sick of getting patch after patch because somebody didn't do their job to begin with. Free advice: NEVER buy a WWE game at release.
Things that can make every 2K game better 1. Create a story and finisher 2. Ability to make your own custom show and Championship in my Gm as well as cutscenes for it 3. More interesting Gm cards such as a bankrupt feature that if you go below a certain number of fans or money your opposing brands can deliver a death blow card absorbing your brand much like the WWE WCW buyout and eliminating your from the competition 4. Different types of special referee matches 5. Inferno matches and or cinematic matches 6. Ability to create your own cutscenes and place in universe mode and multi man rivals and random wacky events like the match being changed last minute mystery partner mystery opponent random backstage attack and taking an opponents and Continuity in storylines for example Cody being saved by Randy from the Bloodline next week they shake hands 6. More wacky places to wrestle in a shower time square snow weather system would also help 7. Make a backstage area that can spill out into catering or on the beach a subway or even on a busy highway 8. A WCW or Ecw mode I’m so sick of showcase at this point just give us a look at different promotions, tie it back to WWE if you have to but just give the like five best stars from each promotion and while were added, add fully animated, cut scenes to the list as well no more of this copyright bull 8. The best tagline I could ever come up with is past present and future this is because I would like to see on Monday night wars similar to the attitude, Era mode from WWE 13, but from both sides as they go head to head, you don’t have to do all 83 weeks, but choose the best matches from the show and at the end or best episodes of both or if you want to you could take it in a different direction give us the decline of both promotions, which would be in 1995 before the war 9. I would like to see small details still such as if a wrestler gets busted open in the corner that turnbuckle pad will be stained or ringside area or blood being bred onto the commentators and crowd 10. Final one and this goes with selling give us a different cell animation we had the same one for years. For example, if a wrestler, Lance, directly on their arm, that arm will have scars and bruises or if the wrestler lands directly headfirst, they will be essentially knocked out blood you don’t have to go to Mick Foley level but ability to have weapons thrown down through the hole in the cell onto an opponents face and or ways to visually sell like scars bloody mouth black eyes or even bleed on the back or midsection to really self falling off the cell
An underrated wrestling game was Natsume in 1994 which was based on All Japan Wrestling, It wasn't licensed in America by All Japan, but it was in Japan.
A better reversal system option like the SVR 07 reversal system or 2k14 reversal system. Also making there own weapon physics system like SVR 11. Being able to lean ladders and tables anywhere and stack tables. Take away all that dodging and blocking, it's not Fight Night or Mortal Kombat. Fix the servers and actually improve Universe mode. Aleast change the reversal system, also blocking/dodging and im hooked.
God I still pray that one day the 2K19 servers would reopen so I could feel like a *GOD* again. Although I already feel bad enough that I didn’t play it online until the final 5 months, but I am glad to say though that playing it offline for so long helped me so much to train for those online matches and becoming one of the hottest 2K19 performers ever to never win a League Championship (post Styles Tower thing where you coulda won a million dollars). But honestly I still play 2K19 though for the created AEW wrestlers that never made it to the initial Fight Forever roster. But like I still yearn for the days of kicking absolute ass but at the same time having so much fun (especially with the Steel Cage matches that me and my then-friend did). Also to be honest this is practically the reason why I haven’t touched a 2K game since. I don’t care about 2K20, 2K22 or 2K23 and so on. You’ll never convince me that those games take as much skill and are as much fun as 2K19 was (and I was playing WWE games since SVR 2006). As of now though until the 2K19 servers are ever reopened (a man can dream), I am sticking with Fight Forever through and through. Thank you. Oh and 2K really fudged up trying to reinvent the wheel after 2K19. Super retarded AI and just nostalgia-baiting everyone into buying recent titles just like Madden. In 2K19. Gameplay is peak simulation with the most balanced pacing in the series. Largest roster to-date in franchise history. A system where it’s not about button mashing, it’s a game that takes actual skill to master. AI that isn’t super retarded and actually plays closest to an actual wrestler opponent. Graphics that still hold up. Servers that barely ever crashed. Fuck ton of customization making every match and every mode feel fresh, even if you’re just playing with yourself. A simple control scheme to pick up and learn, but again, takes *actual skill to master* and when you do, you will feel like a god. Also the very cleanest move animations you will ever see. Plus the game is still alive 6 years after it was released. People are *STILL* playing it.
How about not removing things that don't need to be removed, like show Intros. I read the reason why promos were removed was because it caused the game to crash a lot. But i don't know if that's the same for show intros.
I know some of ya’ll don’t like the mode but I feel like They should really put some effort into 2K showcases like they used to. Especially because A lot of people criticized this year’s showcase (me included).
There's so many glitches in this game 2K 24. I've noticed a glitch when a wrestler loses a title. He comes out as the champion with the belt around his waist after he loses the belt and then announcer announces him as the champion after he loses the belt and he's wearing the title, it's a glitch. It's ridiculous. There's so many glitches they have 2K they have to fix these glitches, our fans aren't gonna buy the games anymore. I think it's all about money.
I think this is something that we’ve been saying since 2K15. Sometimes people in our group equated to getting older schedules getting busier, but I miss playing these games with my friends and just having fun. I hope that they can find the magic to keep people playing year round again.
God I still pray that one day the 2K19 servers would reopen so I could feel like a *GOD* again. Although I already feel bad enough that I didn’t play it online until the final 5 months, but I am glad to say though that playing it offline for so long helped me so much to train for those online matches and becoming one of the hottest 2K19 performers ever to never win a League Championship (post Styles Tower thing where you coulda won a million dollars). But honestly I still play 2K19 though for the created AEW wrestlers that never made it to the initial Fight Forever roster. But like I still yearn for the days of kicking absolute ass but at the same time having so much fun (especially with the Steel Cage matches that me and my then-friend did). Also to be honest this is practically the reason why I haven’t touched a 2K game since. I don’t care about 2K20, 2K22 or 2K23 and so on. You’ll never convince me that those games take as much skill and are as much fun as 2K19 was (and I was playing WWE games since SVR 2006). As of now though until the 2K19 servers are ever reopened (a man can dream), I am sticking with Fight Forever through and through. Thank you. Oh and 2K really fudged up trying to reinvent the wheel after 2K19. Super retarded AI and just nostalgia-baiting everyone into buying recent titles just like Madden. In 2K19. Gameplay is peak simulation with the most balanced pacing in the series. Largest roster to-date in franchise history. A system where it’s not about button mashing, it’s a game that takes actual skill to master. AI that isn’t super retarded and actually plays closest to an actual wrestler opponent. Graphics that still hold up. Servers that barely ever crashed. Fuck ton of customization making every match and every mode feel fresh, even if you’re just playing with yourself. A simple control scheme to pick up and learn, but again, takes *actual skill to master* and when you do, you will feel like a god. Also the very cleanest move animations you will ever see. Plus the game is still alive 6 years after it was released. People are *STILL* playing it.
Honestly, I know they won’t go back to something like the OG games. So let’s say they take the best of the past 10 years (highly unlikely and won’t happen) in a perfect world they combine gameplay features from 14,19,and 24. Oh yeah…get rid of button mashing. This isn’t the ps1/2 era anymore, apply the use of different mini games and turn up the pace of chaos and most of all FUN. Expand the creation modes, eliminate myfaction, more match types, unique wrestler move sets etc. You really only have to look at what made the previous games work to know what makes a great wresting or at least fun wresting title. I doubt these aspects will happen over one game, so more likely than not we’re gonna wait 3-4 years until we get something worth playing again.
you can adjust the combos in the options>gameplay balance. I put the global slider down to 30, seems to be the best setting. put grapples up to 60. less combos, more grappling. better wrestling.
They should bring back season mode, make GM mode similar to how it was back in the day and maybe merge it with universe mode. Get rid of My faction, My rise and Showcase.
You did a great job explaining the history of wrestling video games through multiple consoles & generations. One thing that 2k can do to get me hooked is bringing back fan favorite features from previous series and and bringing back season mode or RTWM.
Your buddy made great points actually having the game feel like a wrestling game with wrestling moves and wrestlers move like wrestlers and as much interaction as we can get would be awesome! And please make hell and a cell and cage matches and elimination chamber more interactive and up date then things those matches feel like they haven’t been updated in years! And why can’t we have a hell in a cell where we get out the ring and have all the controls as we do in the ring like can’t that be fixed?
I personally think they should go back to the svr days with some road to wrestlemania storylines we have seen all showcase has to offer tbh and remove the combo stuff like its a fighting game erase my faction fix universe mode
The original edit was 36 mins long. I had to cut some things. Not that they are left out. SvR series is goated. Apologies, but I needed to trim it down.
It’s been 13 years since 2K took over, a simple fix would be letting another company take over. There’s PLENTY of broken 2K games on the market, another 5 years with them will just be the same game regurgitated like the last dozen.
@@theprowrestlingshoot Can’t say, I don’t really keep up with development companies like that unfortunately. I just don’t see why 2K should have domain over the product anymore when they haven’t done much for it since they’ve had it. Yes it’s been feasible, there’s been good additions. But they haven’t made anything revolutionary. WWE games have also become heavily corporatized alike the company. The menu format has always been boring, their games have been bugged on release, their servers are shutdown after a year even though content is locked behind MyFaction, quality of life features are removed annually. I just don’t see why fans pay top dollar for the same game that’s repackaged with a few new wrestlers and matches. We’re in next generation gaming, the franchise should have been overhauled by now at least. At least rebrand it into a different series, all I’m saying is if they’ve done the same thing for the last decade, why not risk actually making a new series?
@@TheRealAdaWong God I still pray that one day the 2K19 servers would reopen so I could feel like a *GOD* again. Although I already feel bad enough that I didn’t play it online until the final 5 months, but I am glad to say though that playing it offline for so long helped me so much to train for those online matches and becoming one of the hottest 2K19 performers ever to never win a League Championship (post Styles Tower thing where you coulda won a million dollars). But honestly I still play 2K19 though for the created AEW wrestlers that never made it to the initial Fight Forever roster. But like I still yearn for the days of kicking absolute ass but at the same time having so much fun (especially with the Steel Cage matches that me and my then-friend did). Also to be honest this is practically the reason why I haven’t touched a 2K game since. I don’t care about 2K20, 2K22 or 2K23 and so on. You’ll never convince me that those games take as much skill and are as much fun as 2K19 was (and I was playing WWE games since SVR 2006). As of now though until the 2K19 servers are ever reopened (a man can dream), I am sticking with Fight Forever through and through. Thank you. Oh and 2K really fudged up trying to reinvent the wheel after 2K19. Super retarded AI and just nostalgia-baiting everyone into buying recent titles just like Madden. In 2K19. Gameplay is peak simulation with the most balanced pacing in the series. Largest roster to-date in franchise history. A system where it’s not about button mashing, it’s a game that takes actual skill to master. AI that isn’t super retarded and actually plays closest to an actual wrestler opponent. Graphics that still hold up. Servers that barely ever crashed. Fuck ton of customization making every match and every mode feel fresh, even if you’re just playing with yourself. A simple control scheme to pick up and learn, but again, takes *actual skill to master* and when you do, you will feel like a god. Also the very cleanest move animations you will ever see. Plus the game is still alive 6 years after it was released. People are *STILL* playing it.
Since the main thing I play is universe, I won't buy 25 if Universe remains unchanged without major improvements. Not going to spend 70-100$ on a game if MyFaction is the main focus. MyFaction is just another super predatory model aiming to entice players to buy card packs. I don't think hardly anyone even plays that mode. But there are always some idiots out there who will sink money into modes like this. If I really need my wrestling fix I'll just keep playing 23. If they screw up again then for me it's an easy pass.
It honestly feels like they are trying to rip the player off EA-style this way. Smackdown vs Raw 2011 allowed you to create factions but didn't let it negatively impact Universe Mode. MyFaction needs to go!
At the very least, they could fix the gameplay and go from there. I don't have much hope after a developer recently admitted that Universe mode is "beyond repair." What else is beyond repair? Online, and more. What will it take for them to "repair" what they broke? Truth is, they won't work on anything much if players continue to keep playing and paying for myFaction.
@@theprowrestlingshoot they’re so stupid they don’t realize that they can save money printing discs if they make one game then sell a yearly update for 30-40
@@theprowrestlingshootno u don't even back then we are getting yearly release in ps2 era but all of those were great not a single bad game just better ones and every game felt different
@@MultitaskingGuyno they are not stupid just lazy we used to get yearly release in ps2 era as well but they were all great and felt different every year
The thing that would hook me in WWE 2K25 is the return of Create A Story, my favorite mode in wrestling games. While I do like the current games I just get bored with it in about an hour after beating Showcase and MyRise. Create A Story is mode is the mode that would get me playing for hours, there's so much you can do. I'd even like new scenes like The Shield Powerbomb in the ring. through the announce table, two people escaping a Steel Cage at the same time, wedding, wedding crasher, wedding crashers, etc
Saturday Night SlamMasters , PowerMove Pro Wrestling & No Mercy are the Holy Trinity of FUN in my young and Teenage life. But in 2K 25 I at least want to use the ringside bell and bring back Inferno matches and leave the arena completely. And being able to climb the stage and grabbing things from the crowd.
Phoenix king here. I got an idea. 1: we should have a vehicle creator for ring entrance. 2: Also all the stories ever done in wwe should be yours to edit for universe mode, or at least all the stories ever done in their games should be to choose from. 3: also we should be able to type in our wrestling promos in ai text to voice...there's apps already for changing voice to a celeb, so that can be done now. 4: also mocap mode for creating our own moves...an option to put moves together in move creator. 5: also option to have all the ways of getting out of pin submission available, so we can pick our best system...or create our own. 6: To choose our own music for entrance & to choose the jukebox songs as well for our entrance music. 7: Better stuff for stage creator. Maybe have a online community library of loads of stuff for shows etc. To remove modes that we don't like...like that trading blows nee mode is awful I can't cope. I know what they were trying...but man all the time it gets boring an repetitive an you just let them win cause it's so boring.8: old promos like in the 80s style to choose or whatever. 9: An a home mode..so you can maybe walk around the city gta style an drive to work, an do a side quest game of being on the road going from city to city town to town. Staying in motels an whatever. Drive the cars you create, doing adverts & commercials. 10: also have the option to wear a belt in the ring with you. Also no more not being able to pick an outfit cause it's only for entrance...what's that about? Rant over! 😂 oh! Ps! Story creator mode! So you can just watch cause I prefer watching. U can do it like a film...recording u at home ect.
Something that would hook me is actually something 2K themselves have been discussing back in 2K23's development: Custom Story Towers. You know those story towers they had back in 2K Central? Give us the option to make new story towers with our own storylines. Actually... a "Custom Showcase" mode would also be a PERFECT way to replace the overdone 2K Showcase mode - now THAT would be good.
My biggest requests would be allow body morphing (because not every wrestler has the same types of builds), more than 96 images, at least 100 CAW slots, or at least more attire slots per wrestler (so I don’t have to create 8 versions of Sabu because the more had new pants nearly every week), create a manager, create a story.
For me these are the things which need to comeback 1- Wwe 2k19 Controls the 2k24 controls are awful 2- Diving finisher of the top of the ladder and chamber pod and through table which has been removed 3- Bring back omg moments 4- Bring old finisher animations as an option to select in movesets menu
God I still pray that one day the 2K19 servers would reopen so I could feel like a *GOD* again. Although I already feel bad enough that I didn’t play it online until the final 5 months, but I am glad to say though that playing it offline for so long helped me so much to train for those online matches and becoming one of the hottest 2K19 performers ever to never win a League Championship (post Styles Tower thing where you coulda won a million dollars). But honestly I still play 2K19 though for the created AEW wrestlers that never made it to the initial Fight Forever roster. But like I still yearn for the days of kicking absolute ass but at the same time having so much fun (especially with the Steel Cage matches that me and my then-friend did). Also to be honest this is practically the reason why I haven’t touched a 2K game since. I don’t care about 2K20, 2K22 or 2K23 and so on. You’ll never convince me that those games take as much skill and are as much fun as 2K19 was (and I was playing WWE games since SVR 2006). As of now though until the 2K19 servers are ever reopened (a man can dream), I am sticking with Fight Forever through and through. Thank you. Oh and 2K really fudged up trying to reinvent the wheel after 2K19. Super retarded AI and just nostalgia-baiting everyone into buying recent titles just like Madden. In 2K19. Gameplay is peak simulation with the most balanced pacing in the series. Largest roster to-date in franchise history. A system where it’s not about button mashing, it’s a game that takes actual skill to master. AI that isn’t super retarded and actually plays closest to an actual wrestler opponent. Graphics that still hold up. Servers that barely ever crashed. Fuck ton of customization making every match and every mode feel fresh, even if you’re just playing with yourself. A simple control scheme to pick up and learn, but again, takes *actual skill to master* and when you do, you will feel like a god. Also the very cleanest move animations you will ever see. Plus the game is still alive 6 years after it was released. People are *STILL* playing it.
More slots for created wrestlers. More old school Arenas, from WCW, ECW. More Venues at all. Outside the arena brawls. More freedom to walk around, have a dressing room, go to the ring when I want,drive trough a another venue, when I'm on the smackdown Roster go to raw and interrupted in a match. More create tools, a own Bus or dressing room, with all the trophies or nostalgie stuff to achieve. Let me win a match and earn a superstar or a arena. Let me win something. Give me a reason to play universe. I'm absolutely fine for buying wrestlers in the year, but be realistic with prices. Or buy arenas like I told that I want. I want WCW.
Honestly, 2k should look back on the past games like 2k19, SVR 2011, and other great wrestling games and try to think, how could they make a wrestling game that does not need a combo system a blocking and dodging mechanic, a lock up then do a move, and that flashes every time someone does a move, including the red things when somebody hits a finisher or signature. To me, i say they should try to bring back the old controls from 2k19, try to reimplement the weapons physics, bring back certain OMG moments like actually breaking the barricade, chain wrestling, working holds, limb targeting, stamina system like in 2k15, fatigue, and how submissions looked back in 2k19. If 2k could try and implement any of that into 2k25, then maybe, just maybe, 2k25 can be the best game ever played.
You know what would be amazing? A Nemesis system like Shadow of War. Where the opponent remembers what you did to them, when they lost to you, won against you, if you injured them, etc. They form natural rivalries with you if you interfere against them in a match. I would love a MyRise which has something like this.
God I still pray that one day the 2K19 servers would reopen so I could feel like a *GOD* again. Although I already feel bad enough that I didn’t play it online until the final 5 months, but I am glad to say though that playing it offline for so long helped me so much to train for those online matches and becoming one of the hottest 2K19 performers ever to never win a League Championship (post Styles Tower thing where you coulda won a million dollars). But honestly I still play 2K19 though for the created AEW wrestlers that never made it to the initial Fight Forever roster. But like I still yearn for the days of kicking absolute ass but at the same time having so much fun (especially with the Steel Cage matches that me and my then-friend did). Also to be honest this is practically the reason why I haven’t touched a 2K game since. I don’t care about 2K20, 2K22 or 2K23 and so on. You’ll never convince me that those games take as much skill and are as much fun as 2K19 was (and I was playing WWE games since SVR 2006). As of now though until the 2K19 servers are ever reopened (a man can dream), I am sticking with Fight Forever through and through. Thank you. Oh and 2K really fudged up trying to reinvent the wheel after 2K19. Super retarded AI and just nostalgia-baiting everyone into buying recent titles just like Madden. In 2K19. Gameplay is peak simulation with the most balanced pacing in the series. Largest roster to-date in franchise history. A system where it’s not about button mashing, it’s a game that takes actual skill to master. AI that isn’t super retarded and actually plays closest to an actual wrestler opponent. Graphics that still hold up. Servers that barely ever crashed. Fuck ton of customization making every match and every mode feel fresh, even if you’re just playing with yourself. A simple control scheme to pick up and learn, but again, takes *actual skill to master* and when you do, you will feel like a god. Also the very cleanest move animations you will ever see. Plus the game is still alive 6 years after it was released. People are *STILL* playing it.
I stopped playing simply because the controls became too complicated. So I'd bring back simpler controls. Doing a combination of 10 buttons to do one move isn't appealing to me, I'd do away with stamina or make it bigger, by the time I pressed all the buttons required to do a powerbomb, I'm on my knees out of breath. Normally I'd stay away from the long combos but you're forced into doing them for certain game modes or challenges.
I've ALWAYS hated how the A.I. attempts to "win/pin" after the most RANDOM grapple. The A.I. needs to setup signatures and try for finishers not just quick pins/subs. The A.I. also doesn't attempt any insane/cool moments. I would love to see the A.I. climb the cage and instead of "winning", diving off and hitting a high risk move. The A.I. should be setting up ladders and jumping off to the announcers table...not just climbing and grabbing the MIB/Betls. The A.I. has never felt "realistic" or even "competitive", the A.I. just pins and submits.
They also need to bring back using parts of the ring as a weapon like I wanna be able to choke my opponent with the ropes and the referee does the 5 count thing
@@Youngalien_tx that feature has never been in any mainstream wrestling game, youre lying. youve never been able to destroy the ring and use it as weapons
I couldn’t have said it better myself. I need the wrestlers to actually be hurt whether or not I pull off a move or I’m on the other end, depending on the move. Lack of moves really annoy me when it comes to opponents on the mat.
Wow there is so much missing from a good wrestling game and the sad thing is a lot of it we saw in past games as mentioned in other comments on here it’s sad because until I read some of the comments, I forgot some of the things we used to be able to do 🤦🏾♂️ I love watching videos that cover the history of wrestling games because they definitely were some of the best fun during the THQ era then the ps2 era. As someone who hasn’t watched wrestling on TV in over 10 years but have been playing wrestling games since pro wrestling on regular Nintendo. I still enjoy wrestling games. And have always had a strong opinion on what the games were lacking and what I look forward to in the best possible wrestling game. Never forget buying a Japanese wrestling game on the Nintendo 64 just because they had the biggest roster ever created in a wrestling game even though none of it was in English. Listening to creators lie about why we can’t have bigger rosters here in America. Only to see now here we are 20 to 30 years later and on the most powerful consoles we’ve ever had and WWE literally owning almost all of the wrestlers we’ve ever wanted to see having bought out WCW/NWA. And instead of more comprehensive satisfying rosters, we have duplicates of wrestlers, taking up space in the game when they could literally be variants of the same wrestler. 40 years of wrestlemania honestly could be one section in the game for you to ignore the company that actually beat WWE/WWF and not honor realistically all of their pay-per-view events instead of stealing it and making it like it’s your idea is sad. Wrestling history is not limited to WWF/WWE, the scaffolding match from the rock ‘n’ roll express and midnight express which of course most people aren’t old enough to remember, but that match set the stage for everything in the future for high stakes wrestling matches. Also, it sucks that we can’t have the four Horsemen, the von Eric’s the free birds, the road Warriors, Raven and his crew the original LWO, Dean Malenko and his move said which was second to none while he was called the man of 1 million moves. I mean, there are just too many former wrestlers who deserve actual characters without having to wait on created wrestlers from the community when we know it’s never the same. Even when they try to make a legends game, it sucked and did not represent the 40 to 50 years of wrestling that could be represented well. Anyway, after seeing and playing close to 30 years of wrestling games excuses and lies about what we can’t have when I’ve seen them produce enough game content to give us what we’ve always wanted, but instead give us more crap instead of what we asked for. I will never respect at all ever I don’t care how many people like it the card game money extortion for alternate outfits and other characters behind a pay wall and a play wall that nobody wants to play is disgusting. You already are charging for DLC.
One thing they need to change is everytime they bring out a game, wrestlers seem to get new entrances, new outfits, and something seem to change about the belts, not only that, new feds kick off almost a week or 2 afterwards.
I fckin LOVED this Video!!!! As a fan for over 15+ years whose grown up playing every game you just talked about !!! I half to say you are so spot on right!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the awsome content!!!
Bring in an updated version of road to wrestle mainia where you can choose to play as an existing superstar or you're created superstar and actually explore the backstage area and need to wait for time cues and if your not on the show meet and greets and photo shoots.
I wish they would change the physics and give more control to the player, like they almost have it down when you play as a manager and can actually grab onto the ring and have a different animation getting in the ring, it’s hard to explain but iykyk
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Something I wanna see is something like the physics mod added into the game I wanna be able to interact with everything use anything and everything as a weapon more chaos is what makes the game fun and makes it feel real I want the AI to actually be cocky/serious or cowardly or literally unhinged not letting up on me creating a challenge I want to be able to fight all over the arena including the backstage the parking lot, locker rooms hell even up the stairs of the arena and to the areas where fans buy food and merch and use all of that as weapons it's not PS4 or PS5 or Xbox it's the fact that 2k has no competition and they only want money and we keep giving it to them we gotta stand up otherwise they'll keep scamming us out of are wallets 🤔🤦🏾🤷🏽
THQ is the publisher. 1:33
@@PontFlair what's your point ?
My new challenge is going all with paper view mode and training mode and contact sanding mode and immortal mode and new clothing and accessories and new future people mode about new look as a grownups and age mode and create demons and create clothing and right handit lefthanded mode immortal anrea mode and haircut mode and the songs mode just about our favourite music titration dissing mode and return game play macht
@theprowrestlingshoot,
Where do I begin? Let me talk to ya YEAH!
1) Get rid of MyFaction
2) Get rid of MyGM
3) Revamp The Creation Suite
a) ability to combine hairstyles
b) no more preselected names
c) edit your own call name
d) more cities listed for all US states and foreign countries
e) ability to alter facial hair and head hair for in-game male stars
f) ability to alter head hair for in-game female stars
g) ability to decrease AI opponent attributes to 0, to avoid aggressive backlash
h) bring back custom finishers and add custom tag team finishers
i) more generic title motions
j) more generic entrances
k) bring back custom entrance music (in other words...MAKE A DEAL WITH SPOTIFY)
4) more classic arenas to play with
(Nitro/Thunder/Starrcade/Attitude Era Raw/etc) without creating it
5) decrease amount of objectives
in showcase mode to 10 only in every match played, and make them easy to perform
6) better blood mechanics to show crimson mass of blood
7) ability to double-stack tables and set them on fire
8) ability to perform top rope moves with weapons
9) ability to cash in MIB briefcase where it actually works during mid match or end of match.
10) bring back breaking the barricade better and easier like an OMG move like before
This is just my opinion, this is what I would like. I've realized for a long time the game devs don't care about the fans ever and what they want, that's just reality! They never have and never will. Have a great day!🤘😎
I'm a simple man, just get rid of MyFaction and put all their effort into fixing universe mode.
Facts I'm not into playing or buying card miss the old school games like no mercy here comes the pain shut your mouth 2k14 had the best roster 2k19 was good big heads reminded me of nba jam
They can’t fix this universe mode. Anytime they try and do something they break something else. They need to take a couple years off and build a new engine
Yes I totally agree, that's all they need to do
Facts. I don't care about myFaction! I'm here for a better Universe mode. And for Heaven and Hell's sake, BRING BACK Create a Story mode. Last time we had it was in WWE 2K14, bring that baby back!
@@TheRaven_200 Funny you mention that, because the recent new Dragon Ball game is going to actually have their own Create a Story Mode in there. It's a tragedy that 2K, with all their resources can't even bother to *try*.
Better selling would hook me back in. Wrestlers not getting right back up after a big move, I wanna see some limp body animation after being beat down and actually selling limb damage.
you and me both
YES! Selling is a major aspect of pro wrestling. The fact that they still haven’t legitimately began to incorporate it into the gameplay is pretty sad.
The instant recovery thing is probably the worst part about the gameplay
@@juantooquiet FACTS. They took a dope feature and just whored it out to everyone and devalued the hell out of it while managing to make it have a negative impact on gameplay. It’s such a fail that it’s almost impressive. Tragic 🫤
@@juantooquiet you'd think they would fix that in '24.
1. Get Rid of My Faction
2. Fix the Lighting Presentations and Pyros
3. ADD TOURNAMENTS TO UNIVERSE MODE
4. Overall fix to Universe
5. Fix the entrance creation suite
I totally agree with this. They have to improve the lighting. Imo it’s been looking the same since 2K22.
It looks dim when the wrestlers make their entrance
I agree
Number 1 will NEVER happen lol
Get rid of MyFaction? Nah, get rid of MyGM... I really don't see why MyGM is separate from Universe Mode... Implement it there as a third option to switch from Classic and Superstar Mode within Universe Mode.
Create a finisher needs to be there, but they need to take an in-depth look at SvR 2011, as it was a masterpiece!
I hope they bring back the weapon physics from Smackdown vs. Raw 2011 2K games are lacking heavily in that department.
I miss being able to do a chair shot into a DDT on a chair or pulling off the Van Dam throw and kick the chair move.
Hell, I remember being able to use a chair for an off the rope moonsault with Sabu.
💯
The animations in the old games like HCTP and SVR were so perfect. Every wrestler felt unique, with crisp, snappy gameplay. Why cant we just have a modern version of that?
Those were the "key-framed" animations he was referring to. Instead of mocapping how they do now, keyframing allowed to tailor moves precisely how wrestler would execute them. The drawback tho, is that it takes more time to do it that way for developers. Mocap is more convenient for them but could be a hit or miss depending on the performer/wrestler they have to reenact them.
@@WFXMediaMo cap is better because interrupting animations would be easier to make fluid. Key framed looked good but those games didnt have interference until way later in the franchise
@motalkbadazs Well that's true...
It would be ideal if they could somehow make it hybrid
I might be an outlier here, but the thing that made Here Comes the Pain my favorite wrestling game of all time was how it could go from being a simple wrestling game to something completely outlandish. Dragging people while riding a motorcycle, hitting an elbow drop from a helicopter or tossing someone off the top of the SmackDown hotel.
@@mementosxe I loved HCTP!
I think a wrestling game ever years is hurting them and its hurting us the fans the people, maybe if wwe game came out every 2 years instead like ufc it will be a longer running game
To that effect, I loved how interactive backstages where and some cool, unique features. I don't know if it was HCTP, but you could go into the locker room, then into the workout room, run on a treadmil, then toss an opponent into the hot shower and break through a wall! Bring that kind of multi-player interactivity back!
But also, simple, common sense controls. I want one button for timed reversals. Counter animations should make sense for the weight class of the wrestler. I want button-mashing for kicking out of pins and submissions because it feels right, but not allowing the CPU to be expert at it, unfair to human players. Resilience abilities for some should be more than 1 per match, like Rey Mysterio, is known for more resilience than usual. Rope break animations, too!
Also I love being able to take objects from the crowd or under the ring. It was fun to grab a drink from a fan in the crowd, drink it and spit it out at the opponent almost like a poison mist move!
There are lots of great additions over the years, like Community Creations makes it so nice to download well done CAWs as well as arenas, entrances and move-sets. Keep that stuff!
I got WWE 2k19 still but I'm thinking I'll wait until 2k25 to get another WWE game.
1. Wrestling games mentioned in this video had the little things right.
2. They paid attention to detail.
3. It felt like you were using the actual wrestlers you chose. (In 2k, the rock still doesn't have his signature stomps)
4. Better game modes. Like road to wrestlemania and season mode. Along with create a ppv.
5. Universe mode offered surprises and branching storylines involving 3 superstars.
6. Controls were simple and effective
7. Impact of moves was satisfying
8. The devs felt like they were genuine wrestling fans themselves. Not just guys hired to make a wrestling game.
Facts!
@theprowrestlingshoot in addition to the stomps, neither does Stone Cold or undertaker or kane.
Once they fix The TLC Weapon Physics all joy will be restored 💯
I miss the create-a-story & create-a-finisher modes.
Another big bug bare for me with today's games is that the wrestlers movesets always seemed random and full of moves said wrestler wouldn't do in real life.
It's just lazy and you spend alot of your time having to swap moves around, which isn't really your job.
There is a distinct lack of attention to detail with today's wrestling games in terms of the actual wrestling. The visuals and presentation are better than they've ever been though.
Honestly the only thing that would honestly hook me to 2k25 if they just change universe all together new layout new cutscenes, better rival system and , make the the ppv on the calendar right. It’s always out of order.
Tbh Once they bring back 2011 TLC Weapon Physics all joy will be restored 💯
I'd be happy if it just worked how it was intended. 😅😂😂😂
I still play WWE 2k19. Sometimes I let the CPU fight and they dodge moves by just moving out the way no mortal Kombat button games
2k19 is the way to go wish they evolved that style instead of moving to a new engine still play everyday have all CAW slots filled and prolly won’t buy another wwe game for a very long time
I still have WWE 2k19 and haven't got a new WWE game since. MAYBE 2k25 will hook me. We will see.
Yeah, reversals and counters are pretty wrestling-like in 2k19 and selling is pretty good as well.
Same here. I haven't bought a new wrestling game since 2K19. When the server was still up, I downloaded so many wrestlers that the game still feels current.
1. Focus on the in-ring gameplay (Mini games like we seen in SvR 2006, No combo system, and I always advocated for a “spot” system where you can do a certain criteria picked before the match and a cutscene/dramatic moment is played out to add dimension to the match. Think about some of the cool scenes in showcase mode but in an actual match you’re playing to tell stories in the ring)
2. Focus on Universe Mode. This can be massive and they have yet to put the effort in.
3. Remove MyFaction.
4. Audio overhaul. The crowd needs to sound better, hits sound better, and the commentary.
5. More match customization options. Still feels limited.
6. Selling damage
I hope you are subscribed. I need more like you, haha. Great comment. I agree.
Lmao no combo system? Bruh go away
Do u really prefer stupid minigames (SVR 06 marked the beginning of the physic limitations in Smackdown saga) over combos? 😊
they should expand on the character creation options like removing wrestler logos from cool looking WWE items so that it can work with CAWS.
also it'd be cool if referees were improved cause they mostly just stand there the whole match and dont care if you're doing illegal moves on the ropes/corner.
24 will be my last game, until they go back to 14 controls. I'm making sure I download 100 caws to keep me busy for long time
Is it better than 19?
Don't worry guys, I'm just gonna boycott this 2K garbage and let the PS2 Master Race win while i play good WWE games like SYM and HCTP!
14 controls were terrible too just equally bad as 2k20
@@Oldschool1943you definitely use to lose online games before they change the gameplay to guessing
Once they bring back TLC physics & fix Cell Matches, all joy will be restored
Facts!
I hate that one of the highlights of a HIAC match is when the wrestlers go to war outside of the ring, yet you can’t do squat with weapons or perform moves bc the space between the ring and cell is too confined.
14:25 limb damage selling is so weird you can get the legs on critical damage and they still can walk like normal and sprint
And they can still resist your submission moves in 2K24, weird as F
For WWE 2K25 I want them to revamp the crowd & make the crowd sound more lively gradually as the wrestler makes there way to the ring.
Make Theme Songs louder too
The crowd would be huge. I love how fight forever did it. Sounded alive.
I’m a content creator so universe mode is my bread and butter but I can’t make the universe mode I want with all these problems going on.
Omg ..bruh amen..I'm still playing 2k19
Chain wrestling, one button reversal I’m so sick of the guessing which button hit the five count for the rope break and better selling animation like when you work over a body part like the arm or leg holding their arm or can’t run as fast or limping throughout the match better interaction with the environment like the ring post i use it to work over the arm or leg like it was in a older SmackDown game. I can’t remember which game and make it hard to reverse moves as the match goes on or if u take alot damage is harder for you to reverse
Yes all of this!
Two-button reversals are better. In a game like Here Comes The Pain, you have to anticipate what your opponent is going to do. Which is really good for competitive play. The reversals became garbage once they switched to one button. It became extremely inconsistent and the timing never felt accurate. A lot of people turned off the prompts because they conflicted with the animation queues. But sometimes it was better to look at the prompts and sometimes it was better to look at the animation. It never felt fair or polished. Any wrestling game that has two reversal buttons always feels like there's just a lot less bullshit and gimmicks.
A deeper creative suite, 200 CAW spots. Show intros, promos, and for move to work properly. Bring back buried Alive and inferno match, revamp the ladder match back to 8 points instead of 5, that’s all off the top, it’s much more.
Once they fix The TLC Weapon Physics all joy will be restored 💯
FIX Universe Mode!!! The crazy thing is, they tell you what is wrong, but it doesn't get fixed. I believe they need to start going in to a 3-5 year cycle for the game. Have yearly roster updates, they can still have their DLC's throughout the year, but have a major DLC each year, and actually take the time, or have the time to fix Universe Mode. Make a better GM mode. And the major DLC's can bring new match types ect. But this will give them the same platform for longer than 1 year and allow it to be fixed.
I remember when playing smackdown here comes the pain, we had so many match types Like slobber knocker, 3 stages of hell and much more. The animations of the moves were all different. every move had a different animation. For instance the swanton bomb had 3 different animations the stone cold stunner. The creation suite. Back then they made you wanna play a wrestling game. Now it just feels lackluster in a way. I really hope that 2k can really put in effort for 2k25. Make us really intrigued again.
100%
I haven't played WWE games since 2k19. Do they have Special Referee mode back yet? Or No DQ and Falls Count Anywhere match with multi-players that can go backstage and all over the arena? Those were some of my favourite gimmick matches.
And ladder matches are more fun if you can stack tables, ladders that can be more interactive and CPU AI that doesn't constantly tear down tables that were set up, which is an annoying aspect of 2k19, for an otherwise not bad wrestling game.
@@coolioso808 You chose..........wisely (to not play any WWE games since 2K19)
I just want those old weapons physics back where you can slam someone on to steps or a ladder. And better heel-ish behavior. Like I would really love playing as Triple H if there were more actions we could take as a heel.
100% agree. I miss the chair DDT and Vandaminator. Or the chair ankle breaker.
The triple jump moonsault using a chair.
I miss being able to start a match with one wrestler having some damage already. I feel like it would add more to universe as backstage attacks would actually matter or having someone have multiple matches in one night. Rivalries need to be more than just wrestling the same person every week. Universe mode still needs a lot of love.
Personally I think the days of WWE games being good are gone and not coming back. The people at 2K made up their minds with what they’re going to do with it because WWE is a big brand they’re gonna coast until their contract is up WWE will probably sign with them again and they’ll be back to coasting. They don’t care what you and I think they may pretend to hear you and add in very minuscule additions but the state the current game is in is enough for them they fool people into buying it every year monetizing their trash myfaction mode and off to the next game they could careless about what you want and its not just WWE there’s many established game series that don’t care it’s all about monetization the art and the heart behind video games is long gone and for the most part only lives in indie games these days. 2K19 was the last true wrestling game by WWE that played great didn’t try to gouge your wallet and hardly ever crashed and was loaded with features and unlockables it was taking steps forward only for VC to fall and take many steps back like honestly how can it be this bad and so many people, so many people swipe it under the rug? It’s all there is thats why and thats why 2K is gonna get away with taking your money and not be in any rush to put out anything of substance. This era will be an era people will never revisit trust me.
Real ones know 2k17 killed the series WAY before 2k20 did 💯
career mode in that game was boring af ngl
2K19 was an awesome game
Excellent Video! Thanks for letting me be apart of it. WWE 2K25 follow up video will be 🔥🔥🔥. Great editing bro!
You are a hidden gem in this community, and I'm always honored to work with you, brother. Thank you for contributing!
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I think they did a lot right on 2k24. With giving you different game modes and matches that were new. What I feel like is the universe mode didn’t change much from last year. What would it take for me to buy the next installment. Were I would say take my money is the online play in universe mode up to 6players where one can build there own rosters and show s and let your friends join your universe mode and play. Also setting a mode where you can draft your own players for each show as maybe another option in universe mode. Fixing the rankings a little bit better when you beat someone it pushes them down the board. Like the original smackdown game did or bringing them up the rankings. That would be fire
Redo of universe mode, grapple weapon moves, stackable tables, sound effects when you crash through a table
I’m a simple man myself I just want a season mode like ones we had in the past, where in don’t have to be a Caw I just want to play as my favorite superstar and go through a season of what I see on tv, cause universe mode ain’t cutting it, great video man!
A really simple thing that I’ve missed since it got removed that would instantly bring me back would be the ability to lean ladders and tables against anything rather than having the specific prompts.
"We do what Ninten-don't."
- Sega Genesis
"We do what 2K can't."
- Ultra Pro Wrestling
2-Can’t.
Ultra pro will be elite.
I really hope UPW becomes the game changer in this generation of wrestling games and becomes the direction that all other wrestling games should be
Just stop
@SteezysWorld Can I see your TH-cam PD badge Mr. Officer?
Bringing back season mode would be epic. It doesn't need voice acting, hctp didn't have it, just needs good writing for the stories you play through
they really have to go back to how the controls were for 2k19. they don't need all those moves in the game especially the combos, that's way too many. the game needs to be coded better, they should hold off on adding new features until they fix the issues the game is having. Like you said, bring back Chain wrestling etc, make wrestling games feel like wrestling games.
Yes
Once they fix The TLC Weapon Physics all joy will be restored 💯
Yes. Ive been saying this since 22. They shouldn't of fucked the controls. Their should be one reversal button
@@mrkoy5047 I 1100% agree and I don't know why they made it into a fighting style wrestling game, I mean who asked for this? I was okay with the way reversals were set up in 2k19 where you had to use them wisely.
Yep 2k19 was a step in the right direction, go back to that control scheme and build off that
A complete ground-up build of Universe Mode and pack it out with all the features fans have been asking for for years. Also having everything in universe mode work smoothly.
It will take so much for me to buy 2k25 after dumping so much money into 2k22, 2k23, and now 2k24. I've grown tired of the things removed from the game and the things added are fun for awhile, but also get old fast. Thus game needs so much more realism and interaction. It needs announcer interaction, crowd interaction, a bunch of areas past the guardrails to do battle, the ability to setup custom arenas with weapons surrounding it, I want Texas tornado, Earthquake, road warriors, Demolition, Rick Martel, Greg Valentine, Warlord, The Mountie, Sid, Beefcake, Duggan .. SICK OF ALL SAME LEGENDS. We only need 2 Hogans, 2 Stone Colds, 2 Cenas, 2 Takers, STOP GIVING US 5-10 VERSIONS OF EVERY LEGEND. Also .. what would be really really cool... a way to setup custom rosters according to the shows in real time so we can pick matches according to rosters. ALSO MAKE THE ROSTER GUYS EDITABLE WITHOUT USING A SAVE SLOT!!!
Make universe mode's non-rivalry matches mean something. Like a number 1 contenders match. Add promos back and add tournaments
Agreed
#HookMe2K25 A Road To Wrestlemania mode rather than MyRise. Something like we had when we could roam the backstage area and run-in on a random match if you weren't on the card. Excellent work my friend! I salute you and give you a standing "O"! Masterpiece!
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A game that actually works and doesn't have 50 or more bugs or glitches BEFORE release. I think fans are getting sick of getting patch after patch because somebody didn't do their job to begin with. Free advice: NEVER buy a WWE game at release.
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*EXCEPT for 2K19*
For the game actually feel like a wwe broadcast
Things that can make every 2K game better
1. Create a story and finisher
2. Ability to make your own custom show and Championship in my Gm as well as cutscenes for it
3. More interesting Gm cards such as a bankrupt feature that if you go below a certain number of fans or money your opposing brands can deliver a death blow card absorbing your brand much like the WWE WCW buyout and eliminating your from the competition
4. Different types of special referee matches
5. Inferno matches and or cinematic matches
6. Ability to create your own cutscenes and place in universe mode and multi man rivals and random wacky events like the match being changed last minute mystery partner mystery opponent random backstage attack and taking an opponents and Continuity in storylines for example Cody being saved by Randy from the Bloodline next week they shake hands
6. More wacky places to wrestle in a shower time square snow weather system would also help
7. Make a backstage area that can spill out into catering or on the beach a subway or even on a busy highway
8. A WCW or Ecw mode I’m so sick of showcase at this point just give us a look at different promotions, tie it back to WWE if you have to but just give the like five best stars from each promotion and while were added, add fully animated, cut scenes to the list as well no more of this copyright bull
8. The best tagline I could ever come up with is past present and future this is because I would like to see on Monday night wars similar to the attitude, Era mode from WWE 13, but from both sides as they go head to head, you don’t have to do all 83 weeks, but choose the best matches from the show and at the end or best episodes of both or if you want to you could take it in a different direction give us the decline of both promotions, which would be in 1995 before the war
9. I would like to see small details still such as if a wrestler gets busted open in the corner that turnbuckle pad will be stained or ringside area or blood being bred onto the commentators and crowd
10. Final one and this goes with selling give us a different cell animation we had the same one for years. For example, if a wrestler, Lance, directly on their arm, that arm will have scars and bruises or if the wrestler lands directly headfirst, they will be essentially knocked out blood you don’t have to go to Mick Foley level but ability to have weapons thrown down through the hole in the cell onto an opponents face and or ways to visually sell like scars bloody mouth black eyes or even bleed on the back or midsection to really self falling off the cell
Great list!
universe mode has the most potential that is the hook for me.the fact that they barely upgrade it is soooo stupid
An underrated wrestling game was Natsume in 1994 which was based on All Japan Wrestling, It wasn't licensed in America by All Japan, but it was in Japan.
Put all legends from WWF, WCW, and ECW past
I think what the other person said is a good hook i would also want promos back
A better reversal system option like the SVR 07 reversal system or 2k14 reversal system. Also making there own weapon physics system like SVR 11. Being able to lean ladders and tables anywhere and stack tables. Take away all that dodging and blocking, it's not Fight Night or Mortal Kombat. Fix the servers and actually improve Universe mode. Aleast change the reversal system, also blocking/dodging and im hooked.
Trigger 2 button reversals!!!!!!
@theprowrestlingshoot Yeah, I wasn't expecting you to respond this fast. Really shows you care about your fanbase, you earned a sub.
@@Money_1188 I try my best to get to as many comments as I can. If not all of them.
I hope they start to fix bugs like the broken barricade trons, the tag team AI that is now broken.
And caws with missing hair
I hate the latest controls. I keep going back to 2k19.
God I still pray that one day the 2K19 servers would reopen so I could feel like a *GOD* again. Although I already feel bad enough that I didn’t play it online until the final 5 months, but I am glad to say though that playing it offline for so long helped me so much to train for those online matches and becoming one of the hottest 2K19 performers ever to never win a League Championship (post Styles Tower thing where you coulda won a million dollars). But honestly I still play 2K19 though for the created AEW wrestlers that never made it to the initial Fight Forever roster. But like I still yearn for the days of kicking absolute ass but at the same time having so much fun (especially with the Steel Cage matches that me and my then-friend did). Also to be honest this is practically the reason why I haven’t touched a 2K game since. I don’t care about 2K20, 2K22 or 2K23 and so on. You’ll never convince me that those games take as much skill and are as much fun as 2K19 was (and I was playing WWE games since SVR 2006). As of now though until the 2K19 servers are ever reopened (a man can dream), I am sticking with Fight Forever through and through. Thank you.
Oh and 2K really fudged up trying to reinvent the wheel after 2K19. Super retarded AI and just nostalgia-baiting everyone into buying recent titles just like Madden.
In 2K19. Gameplay is peak simulation with the most balanced pacing in the series. Largest roster to-date in franchise history. A system where it’s not about button mashing, it’s a game that takes actual skill to master. AI that isn’t super retarded and actually plays closest to an actual wrestler opponent. Graphics that still hold up. Servers that barely ever crashed. Fuck ton of customization making every match and every mode feel fresh, even if you’re just playing with yourself. A simple control scheme to pick up and learn, but again, takes *actual skill to master* and when you do, you will feel like a god. Also the very cleanest move animations you will ever see. Plus the game is still alive 6 years after it was released. People are *STILL* playing it.
How about not removing things that don't need to be removed, like show Intros. I read the reason why promos were removed was because it caused the game to crash a lot. But i don't know if that's the same for show intros.
I know some of ya’ll don’t like the mode but I feel like They should really put some effort into 2K showcases like they used to. Especially because A lot of people criticized this year’s showcase (me included).
I personally can't stand showcase mode. But that doesn't mean it doesn't have a place in the games. It has its fan base. Same with.... My Faction 😩
This was actually a very good video, you were spot on with absolutely everything and totally agree with you
I appreciate you taking the time to watch it! Thank you.
One mode: Create A Story
One thing that I noticed on last few WWE2K games is that the superstar tron graphics are not formatted for the screens properly.
5 star wrestling might be a parody wrestling game but they got the injury system down pretty damn good.
They dont sell injuries. They have a tired system. It's not an injury system.
@@theprowrestlingshoot well, 2k could take it and improve on it.
@wolfmanscott69 Absolutely. But will they ?
@@theprowrestlingshoot most likely not.
There's so many glitches in this game 2K 24. I've noticed a glitch when a wrestler loses a title. He comes out as the champion with the belt around his waist after he loses the belt and then announcer announces him as the champion after he loses the belt and he's wearing the title, it's a glitch. It's ridiculous. There's so many glitches they have 2K they have to fix these glitches, our fans aren't gonna buy the games anymore. I think it's all about money.
Smackdown here comes the pain was definitely one of those ones.
dude... so damn good. Thanks for supporting the channel, man!
@@theprowrestlingshoot most definitely you had a lot of valid points 2k gotta start turning things around.
Pretty funny just when he said he's what he had to say about the game Ryan Reynolds pops up 😂
The one thing I would do is bring back create a story mode. Then let people download the stories to use in their universe mode.
I think this is something that we’ve been saying since 2K15. Sometimes people in our group equated to getting older schedules getting busier, but I miss playing these games with my friends and just having fun. I hope that they can find the magic to keep people playing year round again.
Man, I feel this comment so much. I miss playing online with my friends.
All I want is 2k19 controls back
God I still pray that one day the 2K19 servers would reopen so I could feel like a *GOD* again. Although I already feel bad enough that I didn’t play it online until the final 5 months, but I am glad to say though that playing it offline for so long helped me so much to train for those online matches and becoming one of the hottest 2K19 performers ever to never win a League Championship (post Styles Tower thing where you coulda won a million dollars). But honestly I still play 2K19 though for the created AEW wrestlers that never made it to the initial Fight Forever roster. But like I still yearn for the days of kicking absolute ass but at the same time having so much fun (especially with the Steel Cage matches that me and my then-friend did). Also to be honest this is practically the reason why I haven’t touched a 2K game since. I don’t care about 2K20, 2K22 or 2K23 and so on. You’ll never convince me that those games take as much skill and are as much fun as 2K19 was (and I was playing WWE games since SVR 2006). As of now though until the 2K19 servers are ever reopened (a man can dream), I am sticking with Fight Forever through and through. Thank you.
Oh and 2K really fudged up trying to reinvent the wheel after 2K19. Super retarded AI and just nostalgia-baiting everyone into buying recent titles just like Madden.
In 2K19. Gameplay is peak simulation with the most balanced pacing in the series. Largest roster to-date in franchise history. A system where it’s not about button mashing, it’s a game that takes actual skill to master. AI that isn’t super retarded and actually plays closest to an actual wrestler opponent. Graphics that still hold up. Servers that barely ever crashed. Fuck ton of customization making every match and every mode feel fresh, even if you’re just playing with yourself. A simple control scheme to pick up and learn, but again, takes *actual skill to master* and when you do, you will feel like a god. Also the very cleanest move animations you will ever see. Plus the game is still alive 6 years after it was released. People are *STILL* playing it.
Honestly, I know they won’t go back to something like the OG games. So let’s say they take the best of the past 10 years (highly unlikely and won’t happen) in a perfect world they combine gameplay features from 14,19,and 24. Oh yeah…get rid of button mashing. This isn’t the ps1/2 era anymore, apply the use of different mini games and turn up the pace of chaos and most of all FUN. Expand the creation modes, eliminate myfaction, more match types, unique wrestler move sets etc. You really only have to look at what made the previous games work to know what makes a great wresting or at least fun wresting title. I doubt these aspects will happen over one game, so more likely than not we’re gonna wait 3-4 years until we get something worth playing again.
They need to bring back the old control scheme. If I want combos I'll play Fight Night or Mortal Kombat
you can adjust the combos in the options>gameplay balance. I put the global slider down to 30, seems to be the best setting. put grapples up to 60. less combos, more grappling. better wrestling.
They should bring back season mode, make GM mode similar to how it was back in the day and maybe merge it with universe mode. Get rid of My faction, My rise and Showcase.
Add Pat Mcafee & Wade Barrett to commentary. It would feel it feel more real and immersive
You did a great job explaining the history of wrestling video games through multiple consoles & generations. One thing that 2k can do to get me hooked is bringing back fan favorite features from previous series and and bringing back season mode or RTWM.
@@fndrck thank you! I loved the RTWM modes!
Your buddy made great points actually having the game feel like a wrestling game with wrestling moves and wrestlers move like wrestlers and as much interaction as we can get would be awesome! And please make hell and a cell and cage matches and elimination chamber more interactive and up date then things those matches feel like they haven’t been updated in years! And why can’t we have a hell in a cell where we get out the ring and have all the controls as we do in the ring like can’t that be fixed?
Isn't the ref at 8:06 the "Enforcer" during Austin and HBK's Wrestlemania 14 match in WWE 2K16 when they couldn't use Tyson's likeness? 🤣
Correct
I personally think they should go back to the svr days with some road to wrestlemania storylines we have seen all showcase has to offer tbh and remove the combo stuff like its a fighting game erase my faction fix universe mode
Love how you skipped over nearly the entire Smackdown VS Raw series. 06, 07, and 08 had a lot of fantastic additions to the series that started there.
The original edit was 36 mins long. I had to cut some things. Not that they are left out. SvR series is goated. Apologies, but I needed to trim it down.
I wish WWE could make WWE arcade game I miss the old days that's when WWE games where fun to play
It’s been 13 years since 2K took over, a simple fix would be letting another company take over.
There’s PLENTY of broken 2K games on the market, another 5 years with them will just be the same game regurgitated like the last dozen.
@TheRealAdaWong who would you recommend?
@@theprowrestlingshoot Can’t say, I don’t really keep up with development companies like that unfortunately.
I just don’t see why 2K should have domain over the product anymore when they haven’t done much for it since they’ve had it. Yes it’s been feasible, there’s been good additions. But they haven’t made anything revolutionary.
WWE games have also become heavily corporatized alike the company.
The menu format has always been boring, their games have been bugged on release, their servers are shutdown after a year even though content is locked behind MyFaction, quality of life features are removed annually.
I just don’t see why fans pay top dollar for the same game that’s repackaged with a few new wrestlers and matches.
We’re in next generation gaming, the franchise should have been overhauled by now at least. At least rebrand it into a different series, all I’m saying is if they’ve done the same thing for the last decade, why not risk actually making a new series?
@@TheRealAdaWong God I still pray that one day the 2K19 servers would reopen so I could feel like a *GOD* again. Although I already feel bad enough that I didn’t play it online until the final 5 months, but I am glad to say though that playing it offline for so long helped me so much to train for those online matches and becoming one of the hottest 2K19 performers ever to never win a League Championship (post Styles Tower thing where you coulda won a million dollars). But honestly I still play 2K19 though for the created AEW wrestlers that never made it to the initial Fight Forever roster. But like I still yearn for the days of kicking absolute ass but at the same time having so much fun (especially with the Steel Cage matches that me and my then-friend did). Also to be honest this is practically the reason why I haven’t touched a 2K game since. I don’t care about 2K20, 2K22 or 2K23 and so on. You’ll never convince me that those games take as much skill and are as much fun as 2K19 was (and I was playing WWE games since SVR 2006). As of now though until the 2K19 servers are ever reopened (a man can dream), I am sticking with Fight Forever through and through. Thank you.
Oh and 2K really fudged up trying to reinvent the wheel after 2K19. Super retarded AI and just nostalgia-baiting everyone into buying recent titles just like Madden.
In 2K19. Gameplay is peak simulation with the most balanced pacing in the series. Largest roster to-date in franchise history. A system where it’s not about button mashing, it’s a game that takes actual skill to master. AI that isn’t super retarded and actually plays closest to an actual wrestler opponent. Graphics that still hold up. Servers that barely ever crashed. Fuck ton of customization making every match and every mode feel fresh, even if you’re just playing with yourself. A simple control scheme to pick up and learn, but again, takes *actual skill to master* and when you do, you will feel like a god. Also the very cleanest move animations you will ever see. Plus the game is still alive 6 years after it was released. People are *STILL* playing it.
Since the main thing I play is universe, I won't buy 25 if Universe remains unchanged without major improvements. Not going to spend 70-100$ on a game if MyFaction is the main focus. MyFaction is just another super predatory model aiming to entice players to buy card packs. I don't think hardly anyone even plays that mode. But there are always some idiots out there who will sink money into modes like this. If I really need my wrestling fix I'll just keep playing 23. If they screw up again then for me it's an easy pass.
It honestly feels like they are trying to rip the player off EA-style this way. Smackdown vs Raw 2011 allowed you to create factions but didn't let it negatively impact Universe Mode. MyFaction needs to go!
At the very least, they could fix the gameplay and go from there. I don't have much hope after a developer recently admitted that Universe mode is "beyond repair." What else is beyond repair? Online, and more. What will it take for them to "repair" what they broke? Truth is, they won't work on anything much if players continue to keep playing and paying for myFaction.
0:09 because the game shouldn’t come out every year
I agree.
@@theprowrestlingshoot they’re so stupid they don’t realize that they can save money printing discs if they make one game then sell a yearly update for 30-40
@@theprowrestlingshootno u don't even back then we are getting yearly release in ps2 era but all of those were great not a single bad game just better ones and every game felt different
@@MultitaskingGuyno they are not stupid just lazy we used to get yearly release in ps2 era as well but they were all great and felt different every year
smackdown and svr came out yearly, so did all of the non franchise games like warzone, attitude, no mercy, etc
The thing that would hook me in WWE 2K25 is the return of Create A Story, my favorite mode in wrestling games. While I do like the current games I just get bored with it in about an hour after beating Showcase and MyRise. Create A Story is mode is the mode that would get me playing for hours, there's so much you can do. I'd even like new scenes like The Shield Powerbomb in the ring. through the announce table, two people escaping a Steel Cage at the same time, wedding, wedding crasher, wedding crashers, etc
I need a proper working universe mode to buy the next one. I’m tired of putting in lots of effort to ignore glitches that shouldn’t be there.
Saturday Night SlamMasters , PowerMove Pro Wrestling & No Mercy are the Holy Trinity of FUN in my young and Teenage life. But in 2K 25 I at least want to use the ringside bell and bring back Inferno matches and leave the arena completely. And being able to climb the stage and grabbing things from the crowd.
we need a crowd feature where the superstar going back and forth with big moves come on 2k i believe in you guys for wwe 2k25 i luv my wrestling game
Phoenix king here. I got an idea. 1: we should have a vehicle creator for ring entrance. 2: Also all the stories ever done in wwe should be yours to edit for universe mode, or at least all the stories ever done in their games should be to choose from. 3: also we should be able to type in our wrestling promos in ai text to voice...there's apps already for changing voice to a celeb, so that can be done now. 4: also mocap mode for creating our own moves...an option to put moves together in move creator. 5: also option to have all the ways of getting out of pin submission available, so we can pick our best system...or create our own. 6: To choose our own music for entrance & to choose the jukebox songs as well for our entrance music. 7: Better stuff for stage creator. Maybe have a online community library of loads of stuff for shows etc. To remove modes that we don't like...like that trading blows nee mode is awful I can't cope. I know what they were trying...but man all the time it gets boring an repetitive an you just let them win cause it's so boring.8: old promos like in the 80s style to choose or whatever. 9: An a home mode..so you can maybe walk around the city gta style an drive to work, an do a side quest game of being on the road going from city to city town to town. Staying in motels an whatever. Drive the cars you create, doing adverts & commercials. 10: also have the option to wear a belt in the ring with you. Also no more not being able to pick an outfit cause it's only for entrance...what's that about? Rant over! 😂 oh! Ps! Story creator mode! So you can just watch cause I prefer watching. U can do it like a film...recording u at home ect.
Something that would hook me is actually something 2K themselves have been discussing back in 2K23's development: Custom Story Towers.
You know those story towers they had back in 2K Central? Give us the option to make new story towers with our own storylines.
Actually... a "Custom Showcase" mode would also be a PERFECT way to replace the overdone 2K Showcase mode - now THAT would be good.
That would be pretty cool.
My biggest requests would be allow body morphing (because not every wrestler has the same types of builds), more than 96 images, at least 100 CAW slots, or at least more attire slots per wrestler (so I don’t have to create 8 versions of Sabu because the more had new pants nearly every week), create a manager, create a story.
For me these are the things which need to comeback
1- Wwe 2k19 Controls the 2k24 controls are awful
2- Diving finisher of the top of the ladder and chamber pod and through table which has been removed
3- Bring back omg moments
4- Bring old finisher animations as an option to select in movesets menu
God I still pray that one day the 2K19 servers would reopen so I could feel like a *GOD* again. Although I already feel bad enough that I didn’t play it online until the final 5 months, but I am glad to say though that playing it offline for so long helped me so much to train for those online matches and becoming one of the hottest 2K19 performers ever to never win a League Championship (post Styles Tower thing where you coulda won a million dollars). But honestly I still play 2K19 though for the created AEW wrestlers that never made it to the initial Fight Forever roster. But like I still yearn for the days of kicking absolute ass but at the same time having so much fun (especially with the Steel Cage matches that me and my then-friend did). Also to be honest this is practically the reason why I haven’t touched a 2K game since. I don’t care about 2K20, 2K22 or 2K23 and so on. You’ll never convince me that those games take as much skill and are as much fun as 2K19 was (and I was playing WWE games since SVR 2006). As of now though until the 2K19 servers are ever reopened (a man can dream), I am sticking with Fight Forever through and through. Thank you.
Oh and 2K really fudged up trying to reinvent the wheel after 2K19. Super retarded AI and just nostalgia-baiting everyone into buying recent titles just like Madden.
In 2K19. Gameplay is peak simulation with the most balanced pacing in the series. Largest roster to-date in franchise history. A system where it’s not about button mashing, it’s a game that takes actual skill to master. AI that isn’t super retarded and actually plays closest to an actual wrestler opponent. Graphics that still hold up. Servers that barely ever crashed. Fuck ton of customization making every match and every mode feel fresh, even if you’re just playing with yourself. A simple control scheme to pick up and learn, but again, takes *actual skill to master* and when you do, you will feel like a god. Also the very cleanest move animations you will ever see. Plus the game is still alive 6 years after it was released. People are *STILL* playing it.
More slots for created wrestlers. More old school Arenas, from WCW, ECW. More Venues at all. Outside the arena brawls. More freedom to walk around, have a dressing room, go to the ring when I want,drive trough a another venue, when I'm on the smackdown Roster go to raw and interrupted in a match. More create tools, a own Bus or dressing room, with all the trophies or nostalgie stuff to achieve. Let me win a match and earn a superstar or a arena. Let me win something. Give me a reason to play universe. I'm absolutely fine for buying wrestlers in the year, but be realistic with prices. Or buy arenas like I told that I want. I want WCW.
Honestly, 2k should look back on the past games like 2k19, SVR 2011, and other great wrestling games and try to think, how could they make a wrestling game that does not need a combo system a blocking and dodging mechanic, a lock up then do a move, and that flashes every time someone does a move, including the red things when somebody hits a finisher or signature.
To me, i say they should try to bring back the old controls from 2k19, try to reimplement the weapons physics, bring back certain OMG moments like actually breaking the barricade, chain wrestling, working holds, limb targeting, stamina system like in 2k15, fatigue, and how submissions looked back in 2k19.
If 2k could try and implement any of that into 2k25, then maybe, just maybe, 2k25 can be the best game ever played.
Yeah, The People’s Elbow hasn’t been great in a game since SVR11 I believe. I don’t understand why.
You know what would be amazing? A Nemesis system like Shadow of War. Where the opponent remembers what you did to them, when they lost to you, won against you, if you injured them, etc. They form natural rivalries with you if you interfere against them in a match. I would love a MyRise which has something like this.
That would be dope!
They need to work on fix lighting effects , wwe 2k19 had the best lighting graphics .. pls wwe 2k25 fix the lighting
Agree.
God I still pray that one day the 2K19 servers would reopen so I could feel like a *GOD* again. Although I already feel bad enough that I didn’t play it online until the final 5 months, but I am glad to say though that playing it offline for so long helped me so much to train for those online matches and becoming one of the hottest 2K19 performers ever to never win a League Championship (post Styles Tower thing where you coulda won a million dollars). But honestly I still play 2K19 though for the created AEW wrestlers that never made it to the initial Fight Forever roster. But like I still yearn for the days of kicking absolute ass but at the same time having so much fun (especially with the Steel Cage matches that me and my then-friend did). Also to be honest this is practically the reason why I haven’t touched a 2K game since. I don’t care about 2K20, 2K22 or 2K23 and so on. You’ll never convince me that those games take as much skill and are as much fun as 2K19 was (and I was playing WWE games since SVR 2006). As of now though until the 2K19 servers are ever reopened (a man can dream), I am sticking with Fight Forever through and through. Thank you.
Oh and 2K really fudged up trying to reinvent the wheel after 2K19. Super retarded AI and just nostalgia-baiting everyone into buying recent titles just like Madden.
In 2K19. Gameplay is peak simulation with the most balanced pacing in the series. Largest roster to-date in franchise history. A system where it’s not about button mashing, it’s a game that takes actual skill to master. AI that isn’t super retarded and actually plays closest to an actual wrestler opponent. Graphics that still hold up. Servers that barely ever crashed. Fuck ton of customization making every match and every mode feel fresh, even if you’re just playing with yourself. A simple control scheme to pick up and learn, but again, takes *actual skill to master* and when you do, you will feel like a god. Also the very cleanest move animations you will ever see. Plus the game is still alive 6 years after it was released. People are *STILL* playing it.
I stopped playing simply because the controls became too complicated. So I'd bring back simpler controls. Doing a combination of 10 buttons to do one move isn't appealing to me, I'd do away with stamina or make it bigger, by the time I pressed all the buttons required to do a powerbomb, I'm on my knees out of breath. Normally I'd stay away from the long combos but you're forced into doing them for certain game modes or challenges.
I've ALWAYS hated how the A.I. attempts to "win/pin" after the most RANDOM grapple. The A.I. needs to setup signatures and try for finishers not just quick pins/subs.
The A.I. also doesn't attempt any insane/cool moments. I would love to see the A.I. climb the cage and instead of "winning", diving off and hitting a high risk move. The A.I. should be setting up ladders and jumping off to the announcers table...not just climbing and grabbing the MIB/Betls.
The A.I. has never felt "realistic" or even "competitive", the A.I. just pins and submits.
@@LegendaryBoneThugs that Pinning trash the AI does is weird.
They also need to bring back using parts of the ring as a weapon like I wanna be able to choke my opponent with the ropes and the referee does the 5 count thing
Dude. Yesss!
bring back? what game had that
@@botchamaniajeezus the earlier SmackDown vs raw games but The first time I seen it for myself was when I had SmackDown vs raw 2011
@@Youngalien_tx that feature has never been in any mainstream wrestling game, youre lying. youve never been able to destroy the ring and use it as weapons
They need to bring back story mode like shut your mouth an hctp had get rid of my faction
They need the old mechanics. I miss the bounce the old games had, these are too sluggish
One of the ps1 EA wcw games had an invisible wrestler option. You could also get the game to read out any name you entered for your entrance
I couldn’t have said it better myself. I need the wrestlers to actually be hurt whether or not I pull off a move or I’m on the other end, depending on the move. Lack of moves really annoy me when it comes to opponents on the mat.
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I’d like to have the limb damage back, I miss climbing the Titantron.
Facts. I'd love that.
Nice work JCS and EPW as well. This is one of your best Jesse and 2K bring back those old physics from SVR11.
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Wow there is so much missing from a good wrestling game and the sad thing is a lot of it we saw in past games as mentioned in other comments on here it’s sad because until I read some of the comments, I forgot some of the things we used to be able to do 🤦🏾♂️
I love watching videos that cover the history of wrestling games because they definitely were some of the best fun during the THQ era then the ps2 era. As someone who hasn’t watched wrestling on TV in over 10 years but have been playing wrestling games since pro wrestling on regular Nintendo.
I still enjoy wrestling games. And have always had a strong opinion on what the games were lacking and what I look forward to in the best possible wrestling game. Never forget buying a Japanese wrestling game on the Nintendo 64 just because they had the biggest roster ever created in a wrestling game even though none of it was in English. Listening to creators lie about why we can’t have bigger rosters here in America.
Only to see now here we are 20 to 30 years later and on the most powerful consoles we’ve ever had and WWE literally owning almost all of the wrestlers we’ve ever wanted to see having bought out WCW/NWA. And instead of more comprehensive satisfying rosters, we have duplicates of wrestlers, taking up space in the game when they could literally be variants of the same wrestler.
40 years of wrestlemania honestly could be one section in the game for you to ignore the company that actually beat WWE/WWF and not honor realistically all of their pay-per-view events instead of stealing it and making it like it’s your idea is sad.
Wrestling history is not limited to WWF/WWE, the scaffolding match from the rock ‘n’ roll express and midnight express which of course most people aren’t old enough to remember, but that match set the stage for everything in the future for high stakes wrestling matches.
Also, it sucks that we can’t have the four Horsemen, the von Eric’s the free birds, the road Warriors, Raven and his crew the original LWO, Dean Malenko and his move said which was second to none while he was called the man of 1 million moves. I mean, there are just too many former wrestlers who deserve actual characters without having to wait on created wrestlers from the community when we know it’s never the same. Even when they try to make a legends game, it sucked and did not represent the 40 to 50 years of wrestling that could be represented well.
Anyway, after seeing and playing close to 30 years of wrestling games excuses and lies about what we can’t have when I’ve seen them produce enough game content to give us what we’ve always wanted, but instead give us more crap instead of what we asked for.
I will never respect at all ever I don’t care how many people like it the card game money extortion for alternate outfits and other characters behind a pay wall and a play wall that nobody wants to play is disgusting. You already are charging for DLC.
One thing they need to change is everytime they bring out a game, wrestlers seem to get new entrances, new outfits, and something seem to change about the belts, not only that, new feds kick off almost a week or 2 afterwards.
I fckin LOVED this Video!!!! As a fan for over 15+ years whose grown up playing every game you just talked about !!! I half to say you are so spot on right!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the awsome content!!!
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Tremendous video! I loved seeing that historical timeline of wrestling games. Takes me back to my youth and how I spent all my time 😂
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Bring in an updated version of road to wrestle mainia where you can choose to play as an existing superstar or you're created superstar and actually explore the backstage area and need to wait for time cues and if your not on the show meet and greets and photo shoots.
I wish they would change the physics and give more control to the player, like they almost have it down when you play as a manager and can actually grab onto the ring and have a different animation getting in the ring, it’s hard to explain but iykyk