Honestly this match was super tense. The match up doesn't seem to favor either one too much, or at least I don't know if it does. It helps when that's not distracting from it.
The last Ky matchup on this channel was Ky v Johnny and Ky also lost that one, so how does Ky play this matchup in a winning way? Also that positive bonus loop at at 5:00 is brutal
My brother in christ, just because Ky lose to Jhonny twice doesn't mean that the matchup is unwinable. This is just a huge coincidence. I know what I'm about to say is rude af, but it's literally the answer to your question: Learn the matchup. This is not even Ky's worst matcup
@@M-Trigger I think my comment was a lot more neutral than this reaction you gave warranted. I merely meant I haven't seen a good resource showing a high level Ky beating a high level Johnny, so I don't know what type of movements to expect for Ky. In other words, I often watch the answers pro players found in order to learn the matchup and copy them to begin learning matchups.
@@davidsphere43 alright because I recently learned that the dash macro was even a thing let alone RC macro and it makes me curious on how much better they really are. Like I bet it's much easier to mix with Johnny Mist Finer dashes with macro
@@dovahbread6400 roman cancels are infinitely easier with macro. I can't imagine actually mashing all your controller's buttons to roman cancel after setting that up
If you press the button really late, like right as you're about to land, you can hit the opponent with the swing as well as the card projectile and it can make it safe. It's also how you can pull off full combos with it, like at 4:50
5:00 average positive bonus pressure
I wish I could be taught how to play Johnny this well T_T
Honestly this match was super tense. The match up doesn't seem to favor either one too much, or at least I don't know if it does. It helps when that's not distracting from it.
The last Ky matchup on this channel was Ky v Johnny and Ky also lost that one, so how does Ky play this matchup in a winning way? Also that positive bonus loop at at 5:00 is brutal
Play better i guess. Everyone says johnnys bad and can't do anything ever.
@@hakumenx1everyone says that about every character to a certain extent, I honestly wouldn't listen to them and just form your own opinion
My brother in christ, just because Ky lose to Jhonny twice doesn't mean that the matchup is unwinable. This is just a huge coincidence.
I know what I'm about to say is rude af, but it's literally the answer to your question:
Learn the matchup. This is not even Ky's worst matcup
@@M-Triggerdawg they were literally asking about HOW to learn this matchup
Saying 'learn the matchup' is so unbelievably unhelpful and condescending
@@M-Trigger I think my comment was a lot more neutral than this reaction you gave warranted. I merely meant I haven't seen a good resource showing a high level Ky beating a high level Johnny, so I don't know what type of movements to expect for Ky.
In other words, I often watch the answers pro players found in order to learn the matchup and copy them to begin learning matchups.
7:56 jfc that entire sequence was tense
4:40 nah i got hit too 😭
Do higher level players use a dash button or are they just that fast with the inputs?
As with most things, it depends on the person. Though I'd bet the macro tends to be used a bit more to do some inputs easier
@@davidsphere43 alright because I recently learned that the dash macro was even a thing let alone RC macro and it makes me curious on how much better they really are. Like I bet it's much easier to mix with Johnny Mist Finer dashes with macro
@@dovahbread6400 roman cancels are infinitely easier with macro. I can't imagine actually mashing all your controller's buttons to roman cancel after setting that up
They mash the dash macro. Some of then are on hitbox etc so they can plink dash block a lot easier than ppl on stick or controller.
Everybody uses the dash macro once they learn it, and you should too. It's just that good.
vault with card is safe? what?
If you manage to 2 hit it. But theres a gap you can 2k or 2p it.
If you press the button really late, like right as you're about to land, you can hit the opponent with the swing as well as the card projectile and it can make it safe. It's also how you can pull off full combos with it, like at 4:50
With perfect timing, it's only -1; it's no longer Johnny's turn, but it's not punishable
For it to be safe (along with most of johnnys card moves) u need to fast rc after it. 🙄
"Top 3 ranked Ky" dude didn't punish 95% of the unsafe stuff
Care to point out
@@JackMehoff-vv7klthe mist cancels when card isn’t even out to pressure the opponent