Will - Founder of Western Rise here - The shorts are made to also go swimming in. The drawstrings, the mesh flow through pockets, and the water resistance makes it where you only need to take one pair of shorts while you're traveling.
I eyed these pants for years, and finally pulled the trigger during a sale last winter, and I honestly haven't used any of my other pants since I got them. Just amazing for all occasions, short of full on suit and tie events.
The question is, does the Evolution pants has a place for papers? You know business papers….haha great stuff love the intro, hope everyone has a great week!
I’m in my late 60s…retired military…and retired federal wildlife LEO. I spent two careers “outside”….and in retirement, while dealing with some health issues, I continue to push myself to stay in shape. (Let’s face it, if and when I “go”, I want it to be fast, and outside. I can think of a lot worse things than ending up as “coyote kibble”!). In retirement, I’ve adopted a minimalist lifestyle. I kept and use my Navy flight jackets, my pea coat…but a couple dress shirts, some quality (BYLT p) tee shirts, etc. I’m looking for a couple pair of pants that can “do it all”. I really enjoy your videos…and your insight. OP Shorts! Ha! I remember those…corduroy…what…maybe a 5” inseam? Anyway, Bravo-Zulu on your assessment of Western Rise. I’m giving them another look, brother…thank you!
Those shorts are hybrid shorts. Hence the drawstring. They are designed to be able to be worn in the water like a pair of board shorts. I live in Costa Rica and while I don't have any Western Rise shorts all of my shorts are hybrid shorts. Never know when you are going to want to go in the ocean or swim in a waterfall down here. So much like the evolution pant is designed to be worn outdoors or going out to a nice restaurant those shorts are designed to be used in a similar way. Be it hiking, going out to dinner or a swim in the ocean if the opportunity presents itself.
@@hrrrrrrr2084 Always love random replies to old comments 😂. Yes, I do. They aren't quite swim shorts or in this case board shorts (which would be the closest type of swimwear you could compare them to) because they have pockets, zippers, etc. Board shorts typically try and avoid those things and use velcro and drawstrings. So they are shorts. But they are quick drying and depending on the brand the pockets even zip closed which can be important for not getting pockets full of sand in the ocean. Even if I'm wearing board shorts made for swimming and surfing I still wear performance boxer briefs underneath them because they help act as a rash guard. I'd never wear swimwear that has a mesh lining. I don't get why those even exist. The mesh just acts as a skin irritant. Especially when sand is involved.
@@CarlHancock really it's not that old for a comment 😂😂yeah whil I can understand a mesh lining can be very annoying, here you don't have one do it won't irritate in regular use. Also the shorts won't dry quickly if the boxers underneath are wet
I loved my Evolution Pants but they looked a bit baggy for my style. Hopefully this new ones improved that! Also, what would you say is the difference with the Diversion Pants?
@@brekkoh to do that job right is nowhere near a $10 job. At least where I live. You’d have to deconstruct the whole leg. You shouldn’t just add a full length stitch to taper it.
Diversion has a slightly softer inside, slightly warmer too. At first I preferred the diversion, but over time the evolution was went I went to. Now I haven't worn the diversion in probably a year or more. Something about the thin durability of the evolution maybe. Hi Sergio!
@@chasereeves would you say the waistband of the evo2s is as steerchy as the diversions? Thats the only thing i dont like about my evo1s, i find the diversions more comfortable
Chase, on another note can we have a tour of your studio some day if we haven’t? I want to know about your photos, mix board… and even how you use your space. Love your videos, but looking for some variety. And I also think you should do some collab content to mix it up. Even if it’s with your wife again, because that was stellar that last time! If I was local I’d even offer! Ha
noticed you have the bottom rolled up. what size are you wearing. not being creepy, just wondering the cut of the pants, before I commit my hard earn dollar on these. thanks.
Bought some Prana Brion "slim" pants a few years ago and was disappointed a.) that they weren't as slim as I'd hoped, and b.) how quickly the fabric started to "pill" in high-wear areas (mainly the front and thighs). Think I might pick up the proven Evo 1 and see how the Evo 2 fares after people get some miles on them. I too don't wear shorts hardly at all, so need something versatile and durable. Thanks for the in-depth review.
@chasereeves unfortunately ridiculous shipping costs and no returns make Western Rise a no go in the UK. Any chance of reviewing (finding honestly) internationally available similar pants? 🤙🏼
I missed this when it first came out so hope you see this now! How swishy is the update? I bought a couple pairs of the Evolution pant when they first came out and as much as I love the fit and comfort, they're a bit swishy.
Yea that inside label would annoy me too. And agree on the colors; they wouldn’t be my first choice. That blue that companies use always seems odd. But I don’t I like purple either. What’s interesting to me is they dressed the evolution pant up with these changes, even though they added a dressier chino to the line. I like both from what I see but who knows after trying them on. Lastly, do you know what the water-resistant coating is on the pants? If they are going to add a coating hopefully it’s something on the environmentally-friendly side.
Hey - Will the founder of Western Rise here. Ive worn the new Evolution Pants for everything from desert hiking to nice dinners and travel. It's a bit cleaner than the first version, but we did that to maximize versatility. As for the water resistant treatment (DWR), it's a C0 flourocarbon free plant based water repellant. Definitely environmentally friendly.
@@WillWatters thanks for the response, Will. Glad to hear about the sustainability of the product. I see your point with the versatility but be careful you don’t lose the customer like me that occasionally still likes a pair or two of more comfortable and casual pants. I wouldn’t assume all the gen1 customers will be happy switching to gen2. Notice Apple just came out with yet another SE yesterday. And it still has a home button.
@@aayotechnology I completely get that. With the 1.0 version as well as the new version, I would say the Evolution Pant has always been our most dressed up pant. Both our AT Pant and Diversion pant offer a more casual feel due to the canvas fabric vs the twill of the Evolution fabric. Our goal is always to add versatility to our products and we felt like the design choices we made broaden that versatility.
ok, so I just bought a pair in black. The fit is great but they look a little more formal than I imagined. will they fad a little over time and start to look a little more chill? I'm never sending them back because they will work really well in the office. Just curious about the long-term look. I hate that you make me buy stuff :)
Hey Chase, love your videos. I know you typically only review mens clothing for obvious reasons but do you know of any womens pants that offer some of the same materials or features as Western Rise?
@@awkwarddog88 I reached out to them and this is what they said: "While we did have a women's line throughout 2016 - 2018 it was discontinued in 2019. The short answer for that discontinuation is that women's outdoor gear is a challenge for us. Retailers typically only want to buy women's items that come in very feminine colors and patterns or pieces styled for an older demographic. We purposefully chose to not follow this trend. Because of this and because we sell direct and (not through retail partners) we do not have as large of a reach to a female audience. Although 50% of the Western Rise team is female, and we do hope to be able to offer a women's line again in the future, we are currently focusing on Menswear only at this time. Also, I am not quite sure if there are companies selling aligned to our Evolution or Diversion Pants but you can try Lululemon." So sad :(
@@calliemcgrew4364 just so sad I'm a short men that feels that 32 inseam is just too long for me. I'm urging for sth like a 30 inseam or maybe 29. 32 seams to long and I'm forced to pull the pants way up.
The waist band is great. Wore the pants all day yesterday. Slightly reinforced like I show in the video, but not stiff. The 1.0 evolution didn't have much stretch in the waist at all; this 2.0 doesn't have too much stretch either, but feels more comfortable for sure.
Thanks Chase for the reply. They advertise the stretch waist band on their Kickstarter but from the video it didn’t look that stretchy. Like you said in a prior video, I’m kinda digging pants that don’t require a belt. If you sit all day for work or travel, a stretch waist is killer.
@@lukefromowitz4514 It's not meant to be a jogger style waistband. It's a unique stretch fusible that we found. From wearing it a lot, its way more comfortable than any jeans or our 1.0 version. It makes a huge difference in comfort and we are trying to integrate it throughout the line.
@@WillWatters very cool. I’m guessing this is similar to the tour pants from Myles or what Wrangler started doing in their WTG line. Any chance of also offering 30” inseams in the future? I know you can hem pants but if you like small leg openings it usually require a taper as well. I just tried the evolution 1.0 and diversion and love the nylon material you use. The length and rigid waistbands are the only killer.
Yeah the new ones are nowhere as good as the original - def a downgrade imo - and even the original version made in Vietnam vs the kick starter which were made in the USA were a downgrade. Bring back the OGs made in America ! Plus I’ve noticed since they moved the production offshore the sizing is all over the place in all styles - never know what your going to get which sucks if you buy on sale and they don’t allow you to return.
Will, founder of Western Rise here. I can promise we are not chasing margins. This is a full re-design of the fabric for significantly improved stretch and improvement of basically every detail on the pants. We put a lot of work into these.
@@WillWatters It sounds good but will the improved stretch hurt the durability of the fabric around the knee.....no one wants the baggy knee on a nice looking pant.
Chase - you got to try on pants with no underwear on Clothing companies - Noted. Writes "never accept returns from Chase after he tries on our pants and shorts"
Will - Founder of Western Rise here - The shorts are made to also go swimming in. The drawstrings, the mesh flow through pockets, and the water resistance makes it where you only need to take one pair of shorts while you're traveling.
Are the shorts 7"? 9"?
When are the evolution 2.0 pants available?
@@nhawks23 7" inseam
@@TheLastHashbrown After the campaign has shipped, the 2.0 will be available. Probably early august.
Nobody makes high quality travel/adventure pants for fat dudes…
0:00 The song: incredible
0:39 Flipping me off when counting: incredibly daring
livin' on the edge
I eyed these pants for years, and finally pulled the trigger during a sale last winter, and I honestly haven't used any of my other pants since I got them. Just amazing for all occasions, short of full on suit and tie events.
LOVE to hear this.
The question is, does the Evolution pants has a place for papers? You know business papers….haha great stuff love the intro, hope everyone has a great week!
Saw the kickstarter and wanted some more info… and here it is… with a song 🙌
That song SLAPPED. I did not expect this video to pop off like that, but I loved it!
I’m in my late 60s…retired military…and retired federal wildlife LEO. I spent two careers “outside”….and in retirement, while dealing with some health issues, I continue to push myself to stay in shape. (Let’s face it, if and when I “go”, I want it to be fast, and outside. I can think of a lot worse things than ending up as “coyote kibble”!). In retirement, I’ve adopted a minimalist lifestyle. I kept and use my Navy flight jackets, my pea coat…but a couple dress shirts, some quality (BYLT p) tee shirts, etc. I’m looking for a couple pair of pants that can “do it all”. I really enjoy your videos…and your insight. OP Shorts! Ha! I remember those…corduroy…what…maybe a 5” inseam? Anyway, Bravo-Zulu on your assessment of Western Rise. I’m giving them another look, brother…thank you!
Youre absolutely right,I did need to watch that fold back in slow motion haha
change your life
Thanks Chase. As always - great stuff. Your video once again gave me that last push to go for it.
Sold on the hoodie. I like the look and love all things merino. Will definitely look into the pants because I love traveling light.
Those shorts are hybrid shorts. Hence the drawstring. They are designed to be able to be worn in the water like a pair of board shorts. I live in Costa Rica and while I don't have any Western Rise shorts all of my shorts are hybrid shorts. Never know when you are going to want to go in the ocean or swim in a waterfall down here. So much like the evolution pant is designed to be worn outdoors or going out to a nice restaurant those shorts are designed to be used in a similar way. Be it hiking, going out to dinner or a swim in the ocean if the opportunity presents itself.
in that case do you never wear anything under your shorts since they're basically swim shorts?
@@hrrrrrrr2084 Always love random replies to old comments 😂. Yes, I do. They aren't quite swim shorts or in this case board shorts (which would be the closest type of swimwear you could compare them to) because they have pockets, zippers, etc. Board shorts typically try and avoid those things and use velcro and drawstrings. So they are shorts. But they are quick drying and depending on the brand the pockets even zip closed which can be important for not getting pockets full of sand in the ocean. Even if I'm wearing board shorts made for swimming and surfing I still wear performance boxer briefs underneath them because they help act as a rash guard. I'd never wear swimwear that has a mesh lining. I don't get why those even exist. The mesh just acts as a skin irritant. Especially when sand is involved.
@@CarlHancock really it's not that old for a comment 😂😂yeah whil I can understand a mesh lining can be very annoying, here you don't have one do it won't irritate in regular use. Also the shorts won't dry quickly if the boxers underneath are wet
I loved my Evolution Pants but they looked a bit baggy for my style. Hopefully this new ones improved that! Also, what would you say is the difference with the Diversion Pants?
Just take them to the tailor and get them tapered to your style, well worth the $10 for a pair of pants you will wear all the time
@@brekkoh to do that job right is nowhere near a $10 job. At least where I live. You’d have to deconstruct the whole leg. You shouldn’t just add a full length stitch to taper it.
Diversion has a slightly softer inside, slightly warmer too. At first I preferred the diversion, but over time the evolution was went I went to. Now I haven't worn the diversion in probably a year or more. Something about the thin durability of the evolution maybe. Hi Sergio!
@@chasereeves would you say the waistband of the evo2s is as steerchy as the diversions? Thats the only thing i dont like about my evo1s, i find the diversions more comfortable
That video opening! When does the tour start?
Chase, on another note can we have a tour of your studio some day if we haven’t? I want to know about your photos, mix board… and even how you use your space. Love your videos, but looking for some variety. And I also think you should do some collab content to mix it up. Even if it’s with your wife again, because that was stellar that last time! If I was local I’d even offer! Ha
There is one on patreon!
noticed you have the bottom rolled up. what size are you wearing. not being creepy, just wondering the cut of the pants, before I commit my hard earn dollar on these. thanks.
Bought some Prana Brion "slim" pants a few years ago and was disappointed a.) that they weren't as slim as I'd hoped, and b.) how quickly the fabric started to "pill" in high-wear areas (mainly the front and thighs). Think I might pick up the proven Evo 1 and see how the Evo 2 fares after people get some miles on them. I too don't wear shorts hardly at all, so need something versatile and durable. Thanks for the in-depth review.
@chasereeves unfortunately ridiculous shipping costs and no returns make Western Rise a no go in the UK. Any chance of reviewing (finding honestly) internationally available similar pants? 🤙🏼
Do the pants make that swishy sound when you walk?
I missed this when it first came out so hope you see this now! How swishy is the update? I bought a couple pairs of the Evolution pant when they first came out and as much as I love the fit and comfort, they're a bit swishy.
More swishy than the 1.0 but not as swishy as lots of other pants I’ve seen.
@@chasereeves Noted, will likely still pick up a pair when they hit general availability. Thanks!
Are these the slim or the classic Evolution pants?
Great review! Wheres that sherpa pullover from??
Yea that inside label would annoy me too. And agree on the colors; they wouldn’t be my first choice. That blue that companies use always seems odd. But I don’t I like purple either. What’s interesting to me is they dressed the evolution pant up with these changes, even though they added a dressier chino to the line. I like both from what I see but who knows after trying them on. Lastly, do you know what the water-resistant coating is on the pants? If they are going to add a coating hopefully it’s something on the environmentally-friendly side.
Hey - Will the founder of Western Rise here. Ive worn the new Evolution Pants for everything from desert hiking to nice dinners and travel. It's a bit cleaner than the first version, but we did that to maximize versatility. As for the water resistant treatment (DWR), it's a C0 flourocarbon free plant based water repellant. Definitely environmentally friendly.
@@WillWatters thanks for the response, Will. Glad to hear about the sustainability of the product. I see your point with the versatility but be careful you don’t lose the customer like me that occasionally still likes a pair or two of more comfortable and casual pants. I wouldn’t assume all the gen1 customers will be happy switching to gen2. Notice Apple just came out with yet another SE yesterday. And it still has a home button.
@@aayotechnology I completely get that. With the 1.0 version as well as the new version, I would say the Evolution Pant has always been our most dressed up pant. Both our AT Pant and Diversion pant offer a more casual feel due to the canvas fabric vs the twill of the Evolution fabric. Our goal is always to add versatility to our products and we felt like the design choices we made broaden that versatility.
Are the pockets still shallow or have they been made a little deeper?
Hey Chase! Have you tried Bylt? wondering how they compare to Western Rise pants
What’s up with the 32” inseam for their trousers? Rules out purchases from anyone above average height.
ok, so I just bought a pair in black. The fit is great but they look a little more formal than I imagined. will they fad a little over time and start to look a little more chill? I'm never sending them back because they will work really well in the office. Just curious about the long-term look. I hate that you make me buy stuff :)
Yea they break in very gently over time and get a bit less formal. Booger stains and rolled up cuffs help :)
@@chasereeves I can rock a good booger stain or two. Thanks and keep those videos coming! :)
How do these compare to the Lululemon style pants?
How is the sizing compared to Lululemon and/or other brands?
When you go to these business meetings...what do you bring? Perhaps some...papers, man?
These intros are KILLING it! Much love!
Is that white color at 3:15 the dune color? Are you using any crazy filters or this the actual real world color?
How's the new waistband? The waistband was a deal-breaker for me on the 1.0---so biting and no stretch.
Very un-biting. Night and day difference.
Got it. Typo in chasereevse1 =P figured it out =)
Hey Chase, love your videos. I know you typically only review mens clothing for obvious reasons but do you know of any womens pants that offer some of the same materials or features as Western Rise?
I think western rise make some wormen pants? Definitely email them about it if they don't because it might be on the horizon for them.
@@chasereeves I checked yesterday and as of now they do not, but thanks for getting back to me!
I’m in the same boat with you, girl. I might buy the pant anyway and see how they pan out.
@@awkwarddog88 I reached out to them and this is what they said: "While we did have a women's line throughout 2016 - 2018 it was discontinued in 2019.
The short answer for that discontinuation is that women's outdoor gear is a challenge for us. Retailers typically only want to buy women's items that come in very feminine colors and patterns or pieces styled for an older demographic.
We purposefully chose to not follow this trend. Because of this and because we sell direct and (not through retail partners) we do not have as large of a reach to a female audience.
Although 50% of the Western Rise team is female, and we do hope to be able to offer a women's line again in the future, we are currently focusing on Menswear only at this time.
Also, I am not quite sure if there are companies selling aligned to our Evolution or Diversion Pants but you can try Lululemon."
So sad :(
@@calliemcgrew4364 just so sad I'm a short men that feels that 32 inseam is just too long for me. I'm urging for sth like a 30 inseam or maybe 29. 32 seams to long and I'm forced to pull the pants way up.
How is the waistband now they added stretch? How does it compare to the myles tour pants waistband on elasticity?
The waist band is great. Wore the pants all day yesterday. Slightly reinforced like I show in the video, but not stiff. The 1.0 evolution didn't have much stretch in the waist at all; this 2.0 doesn't have too much stretch either, but feels more comfortable for sure.
Thanks Chase for the reply. They advertise the stretch waist band on their Kickstarter but from the video it didn’t look that stretchy. Like you said in a prior video, I’m kinda digging pants that don’t require a belt. If you sit all day for work or travel, a stretch waist is killer.
@@lukefromowitz4514 It's not meant to be a jogger style waistband. It's a unique stretch fusible that we found. From wearing it a lot, its way more comfortable than any jeans or our 1.0 version. It makes a huge difference in comfort and we are trying to integrate it throughout the line.
@@WillWatters very cool. I’m guessing this is similar to the tour pants from Myles or what Wrangler started doing in their WTG line. Any chance of also offering 30” inseams in the future? I know you can hem pants but if you like small leg openings it usually require a taper as well. I just tried the evolution 1.0 and diversion and love the nylon material you use. The length and rigid waistbands are the only killer.
Is the button on the pants/shorts metal?
It's a metal tack button on the pants and a durable polyester slot button secured with nylon and bar tacks on the chino and shorts.
I will buy my first pair.
For me: no length option, no buy
Agreed. For the cost there should be options
Nice review. Think I’ll get ‘em all 👍🏻
what happened to your long hair 😳
love it obsess
That intro...
These pants make your knees look small.
Pocket pumping out = butt/thigh too big
Yeah the new ones are nowhere as good as the original - def a downgrade imo - and even the original version made in Vietnam vs the kick starter which were made in the USA were a downgrade. Bring back the OGs made in America ! Plus I’ve noticed since they moved the production offshore the sizing is all over the place in all styles - never know what your going to get which sucks if you buy on sale and they don’t allow you to return.
First!
Came here to watch Chase’s BDE ;)
BDE?
The redesign looks like chasing margin.
Will, founder of Western Rise here. I can promise we are not chasing margins. This is a full re-design of the fabric for significantly improved stretch and improvement of basically every detail on the pants. We put a lot of work into these.
@@WillWatters It sounds good but will the improved stretch hurt the durability of the fabric around the knee.....no one wants the baggy knee on a nice looking pant.
Chase - you got to try on pants with no underwear on
Clothing companies - Noted. Writes "never accept returns from Chase after he tries on our pants and shorts"
🤣🤣🤣 I thought the exact same thing!
I was going to mention something about this. No underwear and reuse the pant for days? That's terrible
I'm all for going commando when you own the item... but returning a pair with nut butter, not cool 😬
@@mnmartin73 take a shower every day
@@nhawks23 do you go commando?