Stephen Fry: These People Get Almost No Respect 😡
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- National treasure Stephen Fry gets a round of applause on the Chris Evans Breakfast Show with cinch after this rousing speech on the lack of respect that some people in society get 😡
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"The mediocre teacher tells. The good teacher explains. The superior teacher demonstrates. The great teacher inspires."
William Arthur Ward
Taken from Stephen Fry's book
The Ode Less Travelled
I was a teacher … just retired the summer. Oh the glory days of being able to follow a child’s interests and talents; sadly children are schooled now and not taught in the same way…schooled to pass tests. I will blow my own trumpet … I was a bloody good teacher. Children I’ve taught have kept in touch, friends are now those who used to be their parents … I was forced out by bullying dictators who don’t/can’t allow this way of teaching anymore as we have the mighty OFSTED to answer to; I couldn’t bear the sight of five and six year olds sitting in rows facing the front and copying from the board. I loved my job, loved those “light bulb” moments … and I spent far more hours working than I was actually paid for. Tolerated the vitriol spewed by the press … and watched my pay drop year on year, to see that what was once a valued and respected profession become a focus for all things ill. I don’t know how we turn that back now here in the west, def in the UK. Thank You Stephen for your affirmation of the value of education.
Is homeschooling legal in UK? Or even acceptable?
@@jackdeniston59 yes it’s allowed…it’s a big problem though wrt child protection
as the son of a teacher I read your comments with great interest but I think we should also remember that the school curriculum was introduced in order to prevent the proliferation of politically inspired subjects such as 'Peace Studies' being introduced by those attempting to indoctrinate rather than educate our children. I wish you a Happy retirement!
@@dickyt1318 there’s no doubt that some structure was needed … but it has gone too far. Never taught peace studies … I started my career at the start of the NC.
Good for you. I'm 66 and was fortunate to have gone to school when it actually taught something. Kids nowadays are at a big disadvantage, and this dumbing-down is no accident as democracies turn into oligarchies, soon to become fascist dictatorships. But ALL is according to GOD's plan, which is guaranteed to work, and makes perfect sense when you know what I know...
Elijah has returned, as prophesied, and testifies:
I'm a great example of what Mr. Fry speaks of. I had no obvious talents, and in school was far below average in athletic ability. I also have a very poor memory and had trouble remembering even a simple poem - so, no London taxi job for me! I wanted to play the guitar when the Beatles grabbed my ears in the 1960's, but no way was that possible for me, as my mind/finger interface is so very poor. I can sing, but have trouble remembering even song lyrics that I write! But lo and behold if I shouldn't discover that I have been gifted immensely with wisdom and truth discernment...and come to find out, I am a genuine prophet of GOD who has filled this billet on a number of occasions over the millennia! And the Bible's Book of Revelation speaks of me and my current mission.
Want to know more? Most of you do not, and that's the biggest difference between myself and most people. But if you do, "Seek and ye shall find"...
As a retired teacher who tried and tried to help and inspire my students and to make the things I taught interesting and accessible, I'd like to thank Stephen for his lovely words.
No one, but no one, can make the kind of literally multi generational difference to families, than an effective and compassionate teacher can!
Such a shame he supports the killings of innocent children.
@@crusadersofthesea Hi. Given the illiteracy your response reveals - who the hell would think the plural of beta is 'beta's' and not 'betas' - just one example out of several - one can only conclude that either you're right about YOUR teachers, (though it appears I have to remind you that you weren't taught by every teacher in the world), or you were, and are, too stupid and idle to benefit from any attempt to educate you.
It's my conclusion that the second of the two alternatives is clearly the correct one. All the very best!
A good teacher who inspires and encourages young minds to meet their potential is more precious than gold.
Thank you for your service o7
I taught for 6 months. When I mentioned to Stephen I was doing this, he said “don’t you find it tiring?” (Emotionally as opposed to physically). I went into facilitation when the teaching job finished, far more fulfilling. Good teachers deserve a medal. And a pay rise!
Yes,I agree that good teachers deserve a higher level of pay but we have so many that are bad.
@@franksullivan1873 thank you
A suggestion to Virgin Radio if you want to really make a difference: You could report on this week’s teacher awards in the same way that you might cover the Oscars or the Brit Awards. Profile the nominees and then interview the winners after the event. This has much more impact than clapping for Stephen Fry (though Stephen is also deserving of frequent applause)
Nice idea, but I’d imagine that would be very dull for most and the opposite of what entertainment should be.
@@jamm1055I bet Stephen could figure out a way to make it entertaining - maybe with his friend, Hugh?
I think you're right if QI is anything to go by, indeed it would be fantastic if it was with Hugh.@@Advocate1794
I’d hope it would at least be inspiring to listen to their stories
@@jamm1055That’s the problem with modern society. No respect or acknowledgement of the work that keeps things running. Teachers, doctors, nurses, engineers, armed forces, volunteers, health support workers, carers, young carers.
Society celebrates the wrong type of people because it’s boring to celebrate the people that really make the difference. It’s really no different to what went on in the colosseum. While people were entertained by murder and violence, they weren’t looking at the stuff that really mattered.
You were so fortunate to be in an education system where the teachers have the time to be able to assess individual strengths. I feel it is important that we don't simply cast aside a child who may be poor in the arts but good at science or vice versa. While arguably streaming children at too young an age would also be damaging, we have to somehow recognise that not everyone is the same.
Don't get me wrong I revere Stephen Fry but let's be real. He repeats himself because he must establish his bone fides -- no need! ... ok to the chorus! ... doesn't always happen. Stephen you have no idea of the paucity of the current state of affairs in Great Britain, Canada and the US re; school system, or perhaps you do. Keep on speaking out but there is an immeasurable gap between you and the system you decry and with great respect you would be the 1st to admit it.
When i was a dinner lady and children who misbehaved had to do lines i gave a choice of writing tables or copying a poem .
He repeats where he comes from to avoid the confusion that he came from a poor family, he reminds us that he came from privilege. He was sent to a boarding school, where he can focus on his studies, where you can get boundless education if you want to, where you can get a Greek and Latin teacher at your behest, and spend a whole years of your average man's wage.
Speaking for myself I went to a privileged school (no boys to distract one) but my Dad my best friend was born in 1908 in what was then Serbia in conditions that were pre-industrial. He was a remarkable person, fought in the resistance during WW2 got shot in the back getting someone to safety and a brilliant man came to Canada, spent a year in the Yukon redid his exams as an architect and civil engineer was always interested in preseving the envionment and made money by accident. I don't think he ever gave a damn about material gain. But with a friend was early on responsible for the formation of the Canadian Institute for International Affairs. An idealist, he succumbed to dementia in his '80s and would be saddened by the chaos in the world.today. Tx for your thoughtful comment much appreciated. I have a friend with dyslesia who was luckily streamed into a program which made the best of her many strengths and I wish that were possible for all children.
@@Pbdave1092 Exactly! I don't find anything bad in this practice of his, given how the majority of people do not necessarily have to be aware of his background. As a matter of fact I sometimes feel that we're heading for an era, where you'll have to repeat the same facts within a single interview because modern humans attention span was trained on watching TikTok videos and not by reading Homer like Stephen did.
It's been said so many times but I could listen to Mr Fry for hours.
Most of my teachers seemed to be tired & bored timeservers but my history teacher made the subject live. He filled me with love for the subject and now, at 65 yrs old, I still feel the same. Teachers should be held to much higher standards but the good ones should be paid the same as doctors and lawyers.
What, below minimum wage in this country? The jobs we should protect and treasure the most get paid the least here. However, become a banker with absolutely no worth to society and get paid millions.
@@sarangistudent8614 I don't agree with that, because then you'd just get the chancers, grifters and psychopaths who want to game the system, just like you do in banking.
They deserve a decent wage, though. But most of all, they deserve our goddamn respect and admiration.
Let's nip this debate in the bud. We need telephone sanitizers and bankers and teachers equally. That they fail is human nature. That the least noble seem over-valued is also human nature. You would need to overcome a lot of internal turmoil and disquiet to be banker. I couldn't do it, for any sum. I'd rather sanitize phones.
@@wzywg How does anything you have said nip the debate in the bud, or even contribute to it?
I respect your personal opinions as being as valid as anyone's' but simply assigning certain tendencies to human nature (without offering anything to support the assertion), does nothing to further the debate on the value of teachers.
I barely passed my GCSE in history, and being an ex-teacher, I know my history teacher, by today's standards, would be sacked for his methods. He would just tell a story, and then, with the aid of a textbook, we wrote about the lesson as homework. However, he instilled a deep love and appreciation of history, to bear much fruit in later years. I have a fond memory of him.
I taught A-level for twenty plus years. I quit in January 2024. I now work for minimum wage. In my last year I was very pleased to have facilitated a student gaining access to Cambridge University to study History. That seemed a sensible conclusion to my career. The job is relentless. Nothing is ever enough. There is always more that I should do. Always room for improvement. Never applauded. I was at the top of the scale in FE, teaching A-level and earning £34k at age 50. (Sixth form pay is much better, and it's the same job if you teach A-levels). I would hope that I will be remembered fondly. Thank you Stephen. Your words matter.
I wish we’d still had the option of learning Latin and Ancient Greek at school. I would have loved that. My favourite subjects were English and French because they were “codes” to be solved just like Stephen says. I also taught myself webcoding (this was the early 90s) and made up my own coded language which I wrote all my journals in. I read and wrote stories obsessively. I was useless at PE and labelled stupid and slow by some of my teachers (not my English or my French teachers who gave me higher level work than the other kids). Other teachers thought I was slow because when I was called on to answer a question I couldn’t process the question fast enough (auditory processing difficulties). Turns out I am autistic and have ADHD. Now I’m a technical writer. I remember thinking as a kid that the fact the teachers called me useless was a reflection of who they were and nothing to do with me. I don’t know where I got that defiance from. Because if I’d believed them I probably would have never have graduated from my undergraduate degree with a First or got a Distinction in my Masters.
I did ten years of French and Latin at school half a century ago, and am now a subfluent French speaker with intermediate Spanish and German, and can read a newspaper in Italian, Portuguese, Romanian etc.
nobody can stop you opening a book for yourself mate :)
Sadly we're trying to remove a good chunk of Ancient Greek from the Greek Schools' curriculum. What is even more mind-blowing is that an interest in the subject is labelled as nationalist by certain not-so-secret cabals.
Congratulations I was diagnosed very late in adulthood with the dual diagnosis of ASD and combined ADHD but at 17 I was put On SSRI antidepressants for Anxiety and Depression which happened to be a result of me being Neurodiverse and suffering an entire life of bullying. Now I’m 42 currently on government assistance and trying to spin opportunities in community theatre into paid work in the future. Despite my disabilities also have a complex mathematic and spatial disabilities I also have CPTSD as well but I have a string of Tertiary Education Qualifications BA in Humanities, Certificates 3 in Information Technology Data Systems, Certificate 3 in Business Administration and Certificate 3 and 4 in Fitness but I let my registration lapse. Since my diagnosis and Covid I haven’t worked.
@@drahcirnevarc9152wow
It is worth a round of applause this, isn't it? What an extraordinarily wonderful man. Thanks so much to Chris and his team for the interview and to Virgin Radio for sticking it up on YT. Thanks to all. Wonderful.
This man is the literature version of sir David Attenborough and should be protected at every cost..I could listen to him all day
DO you mean David Attenborough who tells PROVEN LIES in his documentaries and scares children telling them they are all going to die.
Sorry if your pushing an agenda and it’s real, it should be able to stand up by itself without lies or misleading statements, TRUTH CAN AND ALWAYS WILL STAND ON ITS OWN.
Is that the man you mean.
The value of a really good teacher is immense - good teachers can be absolutely crucial for shaping the paths of life and feeling of self worth, of their students.
I always wish I'd had a chance to let my English teacher know what an influence he'd been on me, but I didn't realise until years after he'd died. I was asked one day at work to compose a letter to a difficult customer because I had "a very precise and clear way with words."
I said "we had to have with our teacher" and I realised that what I'd regarded at the time as a pedantic fussiness was actually a deep respect and understanding of the language and the ability to instil the same in a bunch of surly teenagers without us even knowing.
The sad thing is that most of us maybe have 1 good teacher in our entire schooling. When you think that we are taught by around 40-50 that's not a great ratio. If only one engineer in 50 could build a bridge that stood would we be praising them?
I think we need to change perspective on people as well. for example those who disagree with. we should accept where may not agree. and look for areas they do. but that only comes after time of knowing someone. because for all you know your grabbing stick by wrong handle. thinking that both common ground where don't.
Stephen Fry - one of favorite people to listen to, especially when he talks about life and living it. Huge respect for the man.
Snap. Genuinely nice guy and a genius at the same time. I would love to be in his company.
@@TerryMcGearyScotlandStephen Fry is not a genius. Intelligent, yes. Well-read, yes. Funny, yes. But not a genius.
When I listen to you Stephen I do wish I had tried harder at my lessons and improved myself,I am 83 now and it's too late,but hope the young listen to you.
Indeed, fresh breath of air, hearing someone intelligent.
It's a shame he supports the brutality of a certain little far right country in the middle east.
Several years ago, quite unexpectedly, I realized the person I was speaking to was once one of my high school teachers. I figured he must of had thousands of students and probably wouldn’t remember me so, I didn’t say anything. He had just started teaching when I met him, he was then a Professor at a university. He was a great teacher, tried so very hard to connect and involve us, was passionate about what he believed teaching was. A few days later I wrote to him to thank him for what he had done, to thank him for encouraging me to broaden my love history and for his patience. I told him what I had done with my life, I also gave him specific examples of things he had taught me that I still remember 40 years later. I sent the letter not expecting a response. A few weeks later, I received a letter that I treasure. He told me my letter had bought him to tears, that for a teacher a student is an unfinished book. He recognized my name but assumed I wouldn’t have remembered him so didn’t say anything. They know how the book started but very rarely do they find out if they ever made a difference or if their efforts were appreciated.
If you ever get the chance, it’s never too late to say thank you and tell someone that they made a difference and that you are grateful.
Spot on Stephen. A good teacher inspires and is worth ten times more than they currently get paid.
agreed, but not all of them.
Hence a "GOOD" teacher. @@Mclennnan
Remember, Jonathan Gullis was a teacher 🤦🏽
@@sarangistudent8614 Who?
@@sarangistudent8614 Yes. And he was so bad at it, he became a Tory politician.
I rather like the Irish tradition of choosing artists, poets and cultural figures to be their President. Well, in that spirit I nominate Stephen Fry to be President of Britain.
You'll need to become a Republic, first.
It's so lovely to hear this. The story of a boy discovering something of his own unique self-worth, and how (as we all know now) it becomes central to the man he is. And yes, good teachers deserve more recognition. These are the people who have such a big influence on shaping our children - our future.
I'm not sure he cares about children much given he supports what Israel is doing.
@@misc_channelas is his right , like mine
@@misc_channel Were have you heard this ?
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I could listen to Stephen Fry all day long
Was just going to type the same comment
I get lost listening to him
He’s a fountain of knowledge
100% agree. I'd wager he's the world's most interesting man.
He has several audio books, they are very therapeutic and funny too!
If he stays off the woke shit
@@sandersson2813 hey you stay asleep if you want to.
Stephen Fry is spot on- good teachers deserve respect.
They already get more than they deserve. Most of them are terrible and they get nothing but praise. Look at the recent strikes. Kids are failing at record rates, COVID was a disaster for schooling and teachers failed at every level and yet we praised them and gave them a raise. Teachers need to be held to a standard. Not just praised for no reason
I see Stephen as a philosopher rather than an actor or presenter. His skill is to demonstrate not how brilliant he is but how entertaining information can be.
Good teachers don't indoctrinate or politicise, they actually encourage thought and thought exercises. As a child I hated geography, but enjoyed the lesson because the teacher would challenge you to engage in discussion and debate about all kinds of things... That is teaching...
That is quite accurate, if you remember that philosophy literally mean "love of knowledge". Philo (love) is often used at the end of words -philia. And sophy can also be found in words like sophistry.
Fry does seem to be in love with finding out new things and gaining knowledge.
As a misfit in my primary years I was called stupid for 8 years and this was not discouraged by the nuns when the other children copied them. I found out in my 40's that I was dyslexic. I taught myself to read by closely examining the shape of each letter and because I was damned well not going to fail. It took me more than 2 years. The damage to oneself is permanent at that age
and self confidence deeply dented. Sharp wit was my answer. I could never understand why they then thought I was stupid if I could make quick comebacks. Nuns make horrible teachers and I bet very few of them were on the list of prize winners.
I have something of the same thing. I'm a childhood mass murder survivor. I have a moderate to severe traumatic brain injury. Because I was able to develop my wit, it worked terribly against me. I needed to be understood and helped, not shoved aside as a bum.
The only good employers I ever had as a teacher all over the world, for thirty-three years, were nuns.
Biggest fan of Stephen Fry always - what a joy to listen to and read his opinions❤
I agree. Stephen is BRILLIANT.🇬🇧😊
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As a BP type 1 with a long suffering partner, who sees things a little differently. Listening to this ramble gave my steady, pleasure abundant. Big love from Serbia 🇷🇸.
I was at Grammar School in the late '60s, where the masters still wore gowns and mortar boards and the standard of teaching was incredible. Every boy who attended that school had the absolute best start in life that could be imagined.
And now you're a cartoon character!! Well done.👍
This man makes me happy. Fundamentally, inexplicably, and from the first time I ever watched a QI episode. I can no longer imagine my life without his influence.
Thank you Stephen Fry! Everybody can teach you something, everybody is good at something.We all need to remember that.
Sometimes it’s just the way subjects are taught that’s not right for some children.
I once read in an interview with a teacher that one of his pupils was very bad at maths. The teacher knew the boy often helped serve customers at his father’s market stall, so he asked the boy how much change he would give is an article cost say £3.95 and the customer handed over a £10.00 note. The boy had no trouble at all working that out. It was just that sums in school were too abstract so he couldn’t visualise the problem.
My only complaint about Stephen Fry is that there’s only one of him. Such a wise, witty, thoughtful person who carries the torch for the Enlightenment in our time.
It's a shame he is a zionist.
Love Stephen, what a character. Despite his fame, he was genuinely touched by the round of applause he got from the crew.
Sadly, I'm 63 and still haven't found out what I'm good at... or even like. Still lost.
Not all who wander are lost. It’s okay not to know. It’s okay to just ‘be’.
I heard a good saying "We don't find ourselves, we create ourselves". Just do what makes you happy.
Hello mate,
Actually I think it applies to most of us , the saying " we are all good at something" isn't true ,but some people are , love yourself a little bit more and realise that getting to 63 is something you are good at ,being content and relaxed is a lot to be happy about, good luck man.
Like an Albatross that ain't so bad buddy
Being humble mate .
Thank you for showcasing The Amazing MR Fry. I always delight in his humble nature, his truthful vulnerability. His kindheartedness. It’s so lacking in this era. I’m 70. I cherish Mr Fry’s qualities and how he diligently worked at his struggles to have a better quality personal life. He then travels to honor and empower others. How I applaud him. 🎉🎉🎉
Stephen Fry is an a amazing man, and national treasure
Another brilliant segment from Stephen Fry. I've lost count!
I haven't thought about this for years until this video: I couldn't sing, play an instrument, keep rhythm or anything musical at school even though I've always loved music. The music teacher basically wrote me off as useless as a result. Then, one day, we had an actual written test. Never had one before. And I came top. The teacher made a show of how astonished she was when she gave our papers back to us. I just looked at her and shrugged as though I didn't care what she thought. She ever quite knew how to deal with me after that.
I had a great headmaster, that decades later my school mates and I, acknowledged for being so impactful on our different lives. impactful in a positive way. I remember 2 things that he said that hit me. The first was the definition of "empathy". The second was how the word "business" is constructed from "Busy Ness". With "empathy" you can have relations and you can negotiate deals. With "business" you understand that you have to work at things. Pretty well everyday I consider those ideas.
I am sad to say that this man died from dementia. Life took away that keen mind.
I take some comfort from that. As a teacher I often feel I'm achieving nothing. I navigate children through a marking matrix so that credits can be accumulated as that's how they're increasingly 'measured'. It seldom feels like I'm educating anybody. But all that aside, I do take their wellbeing seriously. I relate others' children to my own and am guided by doing for them as I would like done for my own. And, coming back to Mr Fry's comments, I make sure they all know that they have strengths. Some are undiscovered but they're there. If you can do nothing else you can at least make the kids feel good about themselves.
My daughter went to vocational education in her twenties. It was adult aducation. One day, during English (as a foreign language) lessons, she had a question for the teacher, and her classmates said: “Do we have to know this for our exam?” “No”, she said. “Well, why did you ask then?” She replied: “Because I was interested.” They walked away shaking their heads, because you don’t ask things because you’re interested, only because it’s in the curriculum.
School was pushing too much towards learning for tests in Australia back in my time I’m a child of the 80s it’s a shame because I think it numbed some of my enthusiasm for learning
Mr. Fry is brilliant. He always gives credit where it is due. I have adored him for years. A great orator and scholar.❤
One of the rare times chris evans doesn't interupt the interviewee! Mr Fry is a national treasure.
Is that Chris Evans from the 80s game show Perfect Match or another Chris Evans
Let’s not forget; for all those marvellous teachers who inspire and deserve awards there are those who can shatter a child’s self confidence in seconds.
My son left secondary education at 16 with no decent GCSE’s. Not because he wasn’t intelligent but because he was lost in the system of a massive Comprehensive and bullied by his peers. One particular teacher told him that he could forget any idea of his ‘dream job’ because it was never going to happen. 6 years after leaving, he had a light bulb moment and decided to try for it anyway as he said (quote) “I don’t want to be looking back in 40yrs😅 wishing what might have been .”
After his day job, he self studied for 2 years, passed 18 exams for Civil Aviation Authority and I sacrificed my job, took early retirement to give him the money for flight school . He qualified as a Commercial Pilot, all 1st time passes and with grades in the top 5% of the Country ! He’s been a pilot for 16years.
Stephen ticks every box of what everyone admires & enjoys. Such an articulate highly intelligent man. Charming & funny too!!
A teacher that cares makes all the difference in a child's life.
Most countries are now reaping the benefits of constant and systematic destruction of education budgets.
So many talented people are being driven away from teaching and the next generation is suffering.
Thus, authoritarian teachers who even if ambitious, emotionally don't care authoritarianschoolingcouk
having parents who care helps the teachers cope with the ones who dont have loving supportive parents
Stephen Fry's experiences echoed my own. A disaster at sport and bored with much that I was expected to do at school, mainly because I couldn't do things the way that I was expected. However, I was fortunate in my teachers. They saw my strengths, and worked with them. I was already reading and writing when I started school, so I was given a quiet corner to sit and read whilst my peers learned their alphabet. By the time those peers were reading their first books, I was being provided with Dickens. I was never forced to do sport, being totally inept, instead I used to spend my time producing display work for the whole school, because I was good at art. This continued into secondary school where I was encouraged to take alternative routes. When it came to 'A' Levels, I was useless and failed, but a teacher training college saw my potential and offered me a place. Ironically, my eventual degree was better than any achieved by my peers who followed the well trodden academic path. That path was never for me, I much preferred exploring the muddy patches at the side of the path, or veering into the near by fields ir woods 😊
I was a teacher for 35 years (before retiring early for health reasons). One of the things that made me angry was the off-hand manner in which my colleagues would dismiss a pupil. Their attitude was, "oh, they can't do my subject, they must be thick!" They were focused upon what pupils couldn't do rather than finding, which I took as my primary role, what they could do.
In a way, this backfired upon me. Several on the management team recognised my "ability" to get the best out of the pupils. As a result I waa given the difficult classes, the lower sets, or those pupils who were just falling through the net. It was hard work, but I look back with some pride. Often, the pupils that others had dismissed, were getting higher grades than their peers.
I suppose that the fact that I am not neurotypical played a part. I am autistic, though not diagnosed until after I retired. I see the world differently to a neurotypical person, and so was more likely to spot the potential within every pupil. I was not, of course, completely successful, some would slip through the net because they chose to. However, and I include my handful of failures, everyone has something that they can do well if only they get recognised and guided. No one should be dismissed in an off-hand manner.
Having this amazing gentleman in our world really makes a difference for me. (Selfishly) a walking talking "library of Alexandria" Love you Stephen! ❤
The one thing I love about teaching is the creativity you have to have.
If you explain something to the students and they dont understand it, you have to find another way of explaining it, and if they still dont understand it you have to find a third way, and keep finding new ways until they all understand it.
All the while you also need to understand from the get go that it is not the students who are dumb, but your explanation that just doesnt work. It is such a huge reward when all of them get it.
Well said. The terrible thing is teaching is seen as a vocation and good teachers put a huge amount of effort in for the love of it. Management or Government almost always exploits this and dumps on them, pays them appallingly etc. Until they burn out.
@peterrenn6341 Absolutely spot on. This is the reason why the government can't recruit enough teachers and those that they do often end up leaving the profession within 5 years.
If you dig the best ditches, they give you a bigger shovel.
Much like nursing.
it's mostly a women's profession, and they expect most of us will marry and not depend on our salaries to feed/house/clothe our families. Men cannot afford to stay in the profession as the bread winners
""Stephen Fry, Thaumaturge of the Written and Spoken Word!"🙏
This is why Stephen Fry is a true Legend!! I love this man ❤
I have a Philosophy PhD and have infinitely more respect for electricians, mechanics, plumbers, carpenters etc than I do for e.g. Gender Studies undergraduates, because of their superior grasp of applied logic.
Gender studies is a neo Marxist poison it began hitting the universities in Australia about 30 years ago that I am aware of
Mr Fry is so correct, we never give teachers the respect for the responsibility of expanding the children’s minds. . .
But of course governments do not want an educated population because we would ask to many questions. .
Give them football, gambling and beer . .
Educate yourself
I could well imagine Sir Humphrey saying words to that effect 😅
If I could have tea with anyone, it would be Stephen Fry. I'm not clever, but I find him fascinating because he is so intelligent. ❤
I admire the way Stephen Fry mentioned the Taxi Drivers and how they were made to feel stupid in school. State Education failed to teach my daughter to read, write and spell. I used Art and Music to make reading fun and not stressful. She has passed her English Exam and was awarded Best Student and Artist in College. Home Education helped her to be self-motivated and determined to succeed in life.
There are some good teachers. But sadly there are bad ones too (Bullies). I feel our children deserve a kinder Bespoke Education which promotes what they are good at, not what is expected!
I was taught ITA English Twaddle in school here in the UK (England). A backward Alien language that made no sense whatsoever. Thankfully parents got it banned.
It's amazing I can spell at all. But I am a warrior. ♥️
Another wonderfully inspiring interview this morning Chris & Team. Thank you.
I remember many of my wonderful teachers. I have already forgotten most of the MPs who have supposedly represented me.
I remember reading a newspaper or magazine article comparing the costs of sending a child to Eton College to the costs involved in sending a youth to a Young Offenders Institution. Eton was cheaper !
Our collective Humanity is blessed to have Stephen Fry as an advocate for the oppressed and maligned. We are nothing without people like him.
it's a shame that the dismal educational system of the uk isn't able to manage utilise of brilliance of people like Stephen Fry in some capacity.
Brenda Price, Marie-Louise Wardle and Reginald Anthony Peter are three teachers, from my murky schooldays, to whom I owe so much.
Bloody hell, Chris Evans is unrecognisable! Aged beyond recognition, scary what time does
What Fry said about London taxi drivers, an even more impressive example would be the New York tour guide we knew as Eddie taking us by coach around the major attractions of the city, and being able to deliver a lot of interesting anecdotes about those locations. He didn't even do the driving, someone else did, but the amount of concentration he must've needed to be aware of his whereabouts and be able to deliver the right information must've taken weeks of practice! It took a lot out of him as well, as he was constantly looking around out of the coach windows, and even told a couple of our tour group to please keep quiet as they were talking and most likely distracting him. At least a couple of times, we even got off the coach to have a look at major landmarks like Grand Central Terminal and the former Ground Zero (this was in 2012). I wonder how much he got paid for that job?
Bravo Stephen Fry. Our teachers and education are not recognised enough. Good teachers beget good teachers and we need better teaching in today’s world. Especially, I would argue, in history. If people knew more about the appalling mistakes of the past maybe we wouldn’t be so keen to repeat them.
Anti intellectualism is mainstream again for the first time in many decades. Particularly when it comes to history and science.
@@NC-ck5oj sadly true I would say. Aren’t we supposed to be enlightened at this time in history? What went wrong? Too much plastic in our systems? Could this be what stops humanity passing beyond the “great filter”?
Here teachers finally get respect, without good education the whole of society collapses. Which is actually slowly happening. Politicians see it as an expensive expense.
LoveStephen Fry. He has a great insight into finding the skills in people. ❤
I went to a sink school. So bad at had write ups in the Evening Standard. But a had brilliant history teachers who taught me the value of curiosity and learning. And from there you can teach yourself and I have taken that with me through my whole life and it has opened so many doors
some teachers find it stimulating to work in "bad" schools...my hat's off to them, for sure
Sadly many people leave school with the perception of themselves that the education system impresses on them. I'm 64 now and my advice to young people is when you leave school then that's the very start of being able to educate yourself in what you're good at and love. Don't expect it to be given to you, go out and take your own steps to educating yourself in what's going to work for you.
It may well be a journey over the first few years finding out what that is, but in many cases it's intrinsically linked to what you love doing in your spare.
Don't be frightened of 'not knowing' or feel like you 'might look foolish'. Everyone of us is ignorant in any subject until we seek to educate ourselves about it. The internet can be a wonderful tool for educating ourselves in many things and finding courses that will help us. Don't be frightened of struggling or failing at first either. The route to success is often paved with failures that we make through the learning process.
I've been something of a fan of Stephen Fry for many years - I still recall vividly the (all-too-brief) series of comedy programmes titled, "A bit of Fry and Laurie, " where Stephen Fry combined his exceptional skills with the equally wonderful and offbeat mind-threads of Hugh Laurie. One of the highlights of every episode was the closing, "Cocktail Creation" where one would play some up-beat jazz piano while the other concocted some truly evil-sounding 'New Recipe." In my own mind it ran in directly bacl to some Monty Python skits where 'unusual' mixed drinks were mentioned or created ("Dog Turd and Tonic" anyone?).
It always seemed like Fry and Laurie were there for the sole purpose of having a great deal of fun, and the rest of us were (thankfully) allowed to peer in the window of their combined play time. I was very sad when the series ended and as often happened with BBC series, nothing came along that could make up for the blank space. (In all fairness, there were a great many really wonderful British comedy shows in that era, but 'sketch comedy' with no any story framework were thin on the ground). Stephen Fry's story about his school experiences, and not fitting in to more traditional games reminded me of my own schooling, where I was good at nothing most children took for granted as being easy. It turned out that I did have some unusual skills and bits of knowledge, things which regular school teachers greeted with (at best) a blank stare. The few who took the risk of 'scratching the surface' I tried to repay their generosity and thoughtfulness. But school days aside, it is always wonderful to hear Stephen Fry speak, on any topic. Thank you for posting this.
Fry is describing the perfect teacher. My sense is that there are only, a very few who fit into that description. Also I’d prefer it if Evans didn’t wear a hat indoors.
I'm totally with you on the hat thing. Especially in a restaurant or somewhere like that. I've seen people my age do it, who should know better. When my son was a teenager, he would come into our house with some of his pals, who were wearing hats, which were quickly removed for them. Don't need a hat indoors...
financial problems weigh them down
Chris…love your ‘dys and dat’ explanation…so many teachers will relate to you and Mr Fry..excellent show! ❤❤❤
Very astute as completing the knowledge gave me the confidence to complete a degree and then become a teacher. The best teachers aren't necessarily those that succeed in education first time.
The teachers that I remember, and who influenced me the most, had all come from other careers before teaching.
@@solentbum maturity helped me the most
I was always called intelligent, but also heard at every parents' evening "she's great in class, but doesn't do well in exams", and I got told repeatedly that I didn't revise enough. Turns out, I'm dyspraxic too and just couldn't keep the information in my head. Only two teachers in seven years put two and two together and taught me differently - they're the only two classes I got an A in.
Stephen's right; basing intelligence, or ability, on a "one size fits all" system is such bullshit. There are some fiercely intelligent people out there who go through school thinking they're idiots, and some idiots who think they're intelligent just because they exam well. And it's the former who get left behind. It's ridiculous.
Respect to Chris for letting his guest talk...
It really is quite simple - the world is a better place because it has Stephen Fry in it.
What a wonderful, fascinating, engaging man. They say never meet your heroes, but I would love to meet Stephen Fry.
Thank you I worked in Healthcare for 30 yrs and only realized I was capable of much more study. But hey keeping people down works for the Ego driven
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I so so love that point Stephen makes about how people are amazed at his cleverness but its the fact that he's just interested in certain things which sound so clever and other people have interests in other things, in his example football. However there's no doubt Stephen is incredibly clever but still, its a lovely self deprecating and very kind way to explain it and bring all the rest of us in on his journey, sharing knowledge and empowering others. What a wonderful man he is.
I met Stephen Fry in Hatchards Piccadilly years ago, I have a NE accent and he was so quick, he said "you are not from round here are you"!! he was a lovely man, huge and gave off a wonderful energy!!
Such literary folk agreed are a dying breed indeed.
Tom Baker, Ralph Richardson, Peter Sellers, John Gielgud etc etc ..especially my English teacher at Grammar School 'Reggie Brigden' gawld bless 'im! 💖
Yes..
Long live Stephen Fry esq. and all that are like him keeping the English language alive. 🙏
Interesting his talk of Taxi Drivers. I'm sure The amount a taxi driver has to absorb to gain the Knowledge,would frighten most of us
I love Stephen Fry. I could listen to him all day. National treasure? Oh yes!
Mrs Doyle - Year 6. Helped me come out of my shell. A great teacher makes all the difference.
Very powerfully and beautifully expressed by Stephen Fry. I had tears in my eyes towards the end. Sometimes people are wrongly judged and cast out because of their background or abilities. I wouldn't say I was a misfit exactly but very few actually saw the real potential in me growing up. It's so erroneous to gauge someone's academic excellence as the only measure of greatness or worthiness. The system is designed for that in schools in some parts of the world (in South Asia for instance). Some people learn while doing some activity or on the job... than merely mugging up bookish information and passing out with flying colours. Greetings from India.
4:34 - the part about how hard it is to become a cab driver in London isn't very comforting when you consider the rise of Uber and driver less cars.
Such a pleasure to listen Stephen Fry. He can make any subject sound interesting and captivate the listener. The old lady though in the green baseball cap seemed a little lost at times.
Really enjoyed this interview we need more Chris and team hugs Christine from Widnes xxx
I saw him on the tv show "Bones" as a psychologist. Love listening to him talk ❤
But, has he been in anything else, besides 6 episodes of a MOR, American crime show that was cancelled six years ago? 🙃
@@jamesrowden303Yes he has 👍
Ahh, I thought so.
I was sure I had seen him on QI, in A Bit of Fry And Laurie, in Star Wars - The Force Awakens, in The Hobbit, reading numerous audio books, appearing in numerous documentaries, and on multiple other times too numerous to mention in one sentence.
But I wasn't sure.@@kevingodding9316
@@jamesrowden303have you heard of Blackadder?
Also / he’s not really an actor he’s a TV host and Author.
But like saying “what’s Dr Phil been in”
Unfortunately our world is full of unsung heroes.
I like your enthusiasm for the origin of words. It's like a huge puzzle. I was raised in the UK but now live in the Netherlands. I remember at the start of my journey to learning Dutch that I was told that the Dutch word for rucksack is rugzak. Now you can see how those two words are similar but this is the bit that got me. In Dutch rug means back and zak means bag. Put those together and suddenly it's a very descriptive word. But how did English end up with such a similar word but have ruck where Dutch has rug? To me it suggested a previous collaboration between the languages even if ruck does have some forgotten meaning not related to a count of people, rugby, or a messed up piece of cloth.
They share a Germanic root. No mystery.
If you look at the second official language of the Netherlands. Which is way older then Dutch it shares even more similarities with the English language.
Rucksack is a German word
@@thomasschumacher5362 Ah so that's how it got into English. Presumably it has the same breakdown in parts as the Dutch.
@@rubenkramer9902 I've seen many overlaps Ruben. The Scottish use kerk for church. Btw what's your take on verstandskiezen? Many years ago a Dutch colleague said it was far standing teeth as they are at the back. I argued the origin is more likely to do with knowledge or understanding. He changed his mind 🙂
I could listen to this fella all day. What a chap!!!!
We are all fabulous, unique, and wonderful. Part of our life's journey is to discover that, and wise teachers like Stephen, are like lanterns to light our path and help us on our way. 🙏
Just love listening to Stephen Fry but just look at Chris Evans face he's hypnotised. BLOODY LOVELY
In a perfect world this man would be appointed head of education.
A national treasure, but more importantly a wonderful human being ............ which is why he resonates with so many people!
Imagine if some people had had a teacher like the one Stephen mentioned when they were kids, taking the time to speak to them and bestow some confidence on them, their lives could have turned out so differently.
Yes, if they went to a top-tier private school like he did they probably would have teachers like that 🙄
How little you know @@judgeberry6071
@@judgeberry6071 I'm aware of that? I'm just saying if other teachers were like that, how many people's lives could it have a positive impact on.
@MarxistKnight Likewise, I get what you’re saying. However, my counterpoint is basically that you get what you pay for. It's about money. I went to a public high school, and most of the teachers, with the exception of one or two genuinely pleasant ones, were aholez.
@@MarxistKnight we are like that but we can't get to every student in one hour, then on to the next, and the next
Love Stephen Fry..So modest and just a likeable, knowledgeable person..The Man most people would love to live next door to!
Stephen Fry for president.
Thought that was Granddad out of Only Fools and Horses, turns out it was Chris Evans!
Incredible interview this, guys.
Stephen Fry is so lovely, it is always interesting to hear him speak.
Love his intelligence, wit and story telling
I have such a crush on Stephen Fry, he makes me feel safe, fascinating and beloved, long may you learn Stephen Fry xxx
Definitely a national treasure!! I could listen to him for ages on any topic and i wouldn't get bored!
This man is unique pure genius, class big fan of his pure class so intelligent funny has it all .
Stephen is like Peter Ustinov, as soon as he starts speaking, you are hooked.
So inspiring. Stunningly brave as well.