Or, to put it another way: It’s a good thing she can afford to blackmail the Society. She may not realize it, but she’s actually exposing the hypocrisy of the Society.
@@thomash.schwed3662Yes! I want her to continue doing exactly what she’s doing. Don’t shy away from the Olympics, do wear anything you want for a photo shoot. It makes the GB look hypocritical and powerless. No complaints from me!
Yes! Yes! Yes! My point exactly! I couldn't join red cross because my mom said they have events where they are given National Flags. I was so disappointed. 😢
@@Scott_From_Maine i've never heard of this, i only know that JWs just go and knock on peoples doors to join their religion. why is it frowned upon to wear an american flag? is it any national flag? or just an american one
Which church are preaching the gospel of the kingdom around the world to all nations as Jesus Christ said? Matthew 10:16, 24:14, 28:19-20, Mark 13:10, if not only only only the Jehovah's witnesses..
@@vusimngomezulu2500 Jesus and gods have never been demonstrated to exist. Therefore it matters not what church is teaching what. Unless you have some proof you can show me that isn’t the Bible or look at the trees, or the watchmaker fallacy.
It’s so easy being a baptized JW late in life after you’ve already lived your life the way you wanted, made millions of dollars, and been a celebrity for over 3 decades.
@IsBeingHello she had been associated with them prior to her getting baptized, that was all part of the plan, put career first, make the money then join, that's how her father taught her! So she makes endorsements, occasional appearances and still makes tons of money. Not to mention join worldly parties with A listers, associate with them. So she's isn't really all gun ho with JW since she shows off alot of skin attending awards. No modesty on her part, skin tight clothing.
Exactly what I was thinking when I saw this. My wife died 4 years ago. She put J always at thefirst place in her life. We even served as rp’s in China for 12 years. After we came back she got CJD. It only took 3 month to have her brains rotten away and die a horrific death. So, J helped mrs. Williams to add a few more millions to her overloaded bank account and let this faithful pioneer rot away. Well, thank you. I think I understand how you feel about this and I’m on your side in this one.
And clearly he's too busy answering Serena's prayers to worry about the desperate screams and prayers of little girls undergoing genital mutilation, often in the name of religion.
@@charrua59 What house does a governing body member get if they get kicked out? In fact, what house does any governing body member have That's provided by the society at all? They all live in bethel along with the bethelites, any properties that they possess are as a result of what they earned before they became witnesses, but This is nothing to do with you anyway. Their positions are their own, they don't benefit personally or financially from being a member of the governing body... And if you disagree, show me what they get as a result of being A governing body member.
They bought anthony morris a house the terms and conditions are publicly available online once he and his wife die watchtower gets ownership of the house back. @leecooper3852
@@leecooper3852 there's videos about Morrison case. Online documents house bought by watchtower so he can live there till day he dies. Even Raymond Franz received money from Watchtower after being removed as GB member. It's in his book.
The treatment of Serena Williams has always bothered me. She definitely gets special treatment. Jehovah’s Witnesses are told to not play sports in school, and it’s something I am really sad I missed out on during my high school life. The rules just don’t apply to Williams I guess.
She established herself as a tennis player and pursued her career before she even got baptized and she wears riskè outfits very unbecoming as a Witness.
Our son played in the nhl. You can put your kids in sports but it’s frowned upon. We just did it and ignored the criticism. Over the years we stopped being a member of this cult.
I totally applaude your decision regarding putting your kids in sports. We did as well. While never making it to the professional level (we were involved in hockey also!), there were innumerable benefits to our sons - learning to be a team member, character building, healthy physical activity and making some amazing memories. As a consequence, we were sort of “marked” in our congregation. I guess that was also a benefit. Our whole family is free of this organization now.
@@PricklyPear-g3r I agree about the marked comment. Our family is happy to be free as well. It’s so odd to me still when we all celebrate Christmas. Having been raised as a JW my first real Christmas was at age 50!
I've said it before, and I'll say it again; Watchtower is a BUSINESS! And a struggling one at that. The only principle they uphold universally is protecting their bottom line. EVERYTHING else is flexible. Serena Williams is a brand ambassador, and that's good for business.
@@jessicaesmeralda7576But, in all honesty, though, with the “Thriller” LP-and particularly after the Pepsi commercial-Wacko Jacko was simply too bizarre even for the Society. The situation with him was so outlandish that the Society instructed the news servants to take the “no comment” route during the 1987 district assembly. Just how crazy does someone have be for even the Society to distance itself from him?
Just like scientology. Having celebrities brings in more people who are infatuated with them. It's a point of reference for members to refer to and feel important. It's Watchtower's marketing tool. Many think these celebrities are paying watchtower. Watchtower has bought a lot of people. It's all about image. Religion is a business and operates just like one.
The founder Charles Russell celebrated holidays. it’s when Rutherford gained leadership that all celebration of holidays stopped. I wish JW would research this fact!
Absolutely, thanks for the reminder. Once WT staff rewrote the Bible in 1950, the transformation to an isolationist cult was complete. Prior to that, it was a regular religion that had no problems with ANY holidays until Rutherford hijacked it.
That’s exactly what I found out when I researched the religion & I’m not even a JW. Unfortunately my aunt is the only family member that is JW & she’s been in this religion for decades. However, through further research I found my aunt half-assed it the entire time. She didn’t even do half things she was supposed to do. I don’t even think she was even baptized.
Charles Taze Russell was NOT the founder of the JW religion. He was responsible for the modern-day start of JWs here in the U.S., but he was NOT the founder of the religion. Jehovah's Witnesses have been around for thousands of years. As far as Pastor Russell celebrating holidays is concerned, he might have celebrated holidays at first, but he and others did not have a full knowledge of the truth back then. The light gets brighter and brighter as our understanding of the Bible becomes clearer as time progresses.--Proverbs 4:18.
All respect to Serena, she earned everything she did. Not taking way from that. Every time someone brings her up, i bring up the double standard and how many talented witnesses i know who had their flames snuffed, and various other rules that hurt witnesses, like the elder who had to step down because his daughter, who was an adult, was marrying someone who was going to be baptized at the next convention, meaning not baptized. Most people also scratch their head at that, rightfully.
@@peterbunyan3924 Yes, respect. Becoming an Olympian is a big deal, no matter who you are. That doesn't mean I would let her tell me how to live, but it does mean I would let her tell me how to play her sport.
My problem is not with Serena. It is with the double standard that allows her to be such a ‘part of this world’ without comment from the governing body. As children we were not allowed to play school sports or join other worldly activities that other children participated in. Every time she ‘thanks Jehovah’ for helping her win a match or a sports award, I want to scream! It just proves to me that she doesn’t really understand the rules or doctrines of the Jehovah’s Witness’ nor have the Elders in her congregation ever spoken to her about it! I do believe it is about notoriety and money. There is definitely a double standard for the everyday, hard working, middle class Witness.
I didn’t even think about that, they care more about money than anything else which is why you’re not allowed to talk to your fellowship relatives but if you’re old, your children are allowed to come take care of you just so watchtower doesn’t have to
It's the same reason Katherine Jackson is also an upstanding member in this cult. She openly admitted to accepting birthday gifts from her famous kids, yet no one speeched her off or castigated her.😂
I seen soo many Jws send me videos of her getting baptised and I was shocked. The idolatry of someone super worldly. Not surprised since they worship the governing body.
The fact she’s allowed to be all public with her tennis speaks volumes within itself. I’ve seen SO much propaganda that condemns sports as a waste of time and a distraction from Jehovah, hell there’s even a Caleb and Sofia video about it I think Mind you it is also a pretty good propaganda tool too I suppose
I was raised a JW by my mom. Dad was agnostic ex Air Force. Dad and i went to a game and they played the anthem. What do I do. I stood up proudly put my hand on my heart like a proud Aussie.
As kids we would attend our schools sporting events and always stood with everyone else to show respect. Just didn’t put our hand over our heart or say the pledge. It was the same in the classroom.
Right. They never removed her ... or her parents ... for playing international tennis competitions FOR YEARS but they're going to remove her for carrying the torch. Right.
Back when I was a kid, I was a JW. I never stood for the pledge of allegiance, no one ever said anything to me. I never stood for the natl anthem, again , no one ever said anything to me.
I was thinking the same thing when I saw that tableau of the family. Admittedly, I haven’t attended a professional baseball game in easily thirty years, back when free tickets would be distributed to all the students at school. Nonetheless, when I did attend ball games, the fact that I remained seated during the national anthem was never an issue. No one even gave me so much as a cold stare. The Society loves presenting the worst-case scenario at every opportunity.
@@thomash.schwed3662Yup. They are ridiculous. No one ever cared if we were sitting and many “worldly” people don’t stand for the national anthem, either. Funny, I know that brother. He’s an elder and he and his wife live at bethel. They have no kids, of course. Waiting for the new system 🤦♀️
@hikerliz I was, all rhe time, especially by my teachers. I was bullied by Mt classmates severely. Everyday I was persecuted especially the worst year of my life in 8th grade.
@Dottie, you wont have to wait very long..... the NEW WORLD order is being put in place in real time, evidenced by the social collapse, especially in USA and UK, This cult, typical to their character replaces "order" with "system"
It seems no one said too much against Watchtower president Nathan Knorr either when he, having forbidden you to take that oath, took the oath himself in order to get a passport. The old 'don't do as I do, do as I say.'
At the local level, too - businessmen and other people perceived as influential - such as families of elders - get treated a whole lot more generously than people who haven't got pull. One of a thousand things that opened my eyes after a decade of devotion.
Serena deserve all her achievements, she worked hard. But she didn’t get baptized as a youth but after all her accomplishments and retirement. The average witness children get the life sucked out of them and their dreams and talents crushed. It’s tragic. Serena did not give anything up for Jehovah. Her children won’t either.
@@drkaceyyeah but now her kids are millionaires as she insured they would be by following her dreams. Her kids are very likely to be able to follow their dreams since they are millionaires and won’t have to choose between schooling or training /competing (if they choose sports) or providing for themselves financially WHILE being active in the organization. So they will be able to maintain their activity in the org and follow their dreams. By following her dreams she made it possible for her children to do the same without needing to sacrifice their other interests since their essential needs have already been met.
The first clip of the young boy wanting to sign the birthday card for his classmate brought me to tears. All the over thinking just over signing a card. Over something so simple…no wonder people who have been in it for decades had difficulty making decisions & over thing to much over things that don’t need to much thought & energy.
Also, when I was a kid, there was a rule that we couldn't participate in sports, even school teams, because Jehovah's witnesses aren't supposed to compete ... for some reason. I had to hide the fact I was playing for multiple school teams (forged mother's signature, lied and said I had to stay in after school to complete projects, etc. ... Ooooo I was a REAL sinner! LOL)
Around 1994 a group of us jws went to a hockey game and we all sat for the national anthem. I felt totally dumb. I got baptized in 1989 and the last elder asked me if the president of the usa walked in would i stand? I said no. He said YES. Then he asked me if Jack Kemp the us congressman walked in would i stand? I said yes...? Really weird.
Cult leaders are never "in a pinch". They can rationalize anything and the cult members will happily accept it without question, even if it contradicts how regular people are treated. That's why it's a cult.
I remember when the Olympics were in Britain in 2012 and an elder from one congregation had the privilege of being a torch bearer. Needless to say he was removed quite promptly!!
Thank you for doing this. I was disgusted seeing her last night, being part of what the WT describes as a nationalistic rite filled with pagan Greek tradition. This is the same as setting up a "Nimrod Bush" (Christmas Tree). The Awake had an article back in the day about how absolutely pagan the Olympics are, and that no true Christian would be involved in it. If she gets a pass it will only be because she gives money to WT. Two separate classes within the org. BTW, is she still a spokeswoman for UNICEF? Any rank and file JW would be slammed for this behavior.
I can’t figure out WHY Serena Williams wants to be a JW and raise her children in a way that she didn’t have to suffer. Let’s hope she doesn’t let them get baptized until, like her, they get to fulfill their dreams.
@@Katiegirlluv I believe she was (sort of) raised in it. More her mother than father. The father saw her and her sister’s potential in tennis and moved them along that path. I believe there is a movie called “King Richard” about it. Stars Will Smith playing the role of the Dad, Richard.
This is not the first thing Serena has been involved in as a newly baptized JW. I mean, her & the family attended The Nutcracker around Xmas. She’ll continue to live her life as is, just like Prince did & nothing will happen. WT have double standards, period. They even have double standards for Elders who commit sins b4 appointments & confess to them yeeeeeears down the line.
So Jehovah god waves his Holy Spirit wand and helps Serena win tennis matches and earn millions, but apparently he can’t be bothered when innocent children and babies die from war or starvation. And this is who we’re suppose to worship? Yeah, that’s a hard pass for me.
Agree! And I also realized at this year convention drama that Jehovah didn’t care Herod gives command to kill other children under 2 and SAVES his only son😮The scene Herod’s soldier going for those pure, innocent kid was SO shocking😢I questioned, how couldn’t this God STOPPED Herod’s plan!
The Olympics is definitely a no-no. The guilt I felt when in middle school, the entire grade had an Olympic unit. We spent two weeks learning about The Olympic Games culminating in a mock Olympics. I wasn't about the sit two weeks of class out and I wasn't going to miss all the fun. It was like tween field day. So I kept my mouth shut and didn't say a word to my mom about the country I was assigned to represent, the flags and decor I had to make for it and the competition complete with National Anthems of the winners "countries."
Absolutely she gets "special treatment" and I really question just exactly what her true "association and/or agenda" with this cult really is about. ALL IMO.
Money talks which give her leniency to the rules of jws. The average jw would be considered worldly for doing the same things such as a lifetime athletic career, red carpet events she attended, music video with Beyonce, pregnant before marriage, etc. etc. Serena got baptized after all her accomplishments and fame, but she was raised as a jw and knows the rules.
We don't know what her mother taught her or believed. Her mother seemed to be very influential in her tennis career along with Dad. Perhaps the mother didn't feel JW rules/goals applied to her or daughters either. We don't really know.
My goodness!!!!! I was literally just talking about this recently. From red carpet, and parties, to skimpy dresses, to awards ceremony, etc. HOW??? I couldn't even look at magic shows as a kid. Chastised for everything 😢😢😢 how?
I love Serena and seeing her do her thing! Her presence anywhere she pleases is a constant reminder of the GB’s hypocrisy and they are hard pressed to tell her no, so she continues. On the other hand, we dare you to tell her no, we really do. As Wally said, that would be a PR nightmare. It’s great seeing them with their hands tied.
Because she's highly favored by "Jehovah" and Watchtower and those of us who were raised in (and those who are still trapped in that dreaded cult) aren't. Ah, smell that delicious hypocrisy cake that's burning in some oven in Warwick, New York.
But she's the one with the money!! So the question, why did she bind herself to a strict religion with lots of extraordinary rules & prohibits 'worldly' association if she's not going to adhere to those tenets? @jemz4555
Prince was also a JW. He kept performing music, maybe not his more sexually charging music, but he didn't stop being a musician. Several celebrities have claimed being JWs. Its a sadness
Disfellowshipping her would be catastrophic for their PR and they can’t really afford it right now. She’s bringing massive donations as well and all those lawsuits won’t pay for themselves. 😁
7 years within this cult and today I’ve been 7 years out happier then when I was in this cult. Today I decided to been done with anything concerning these people. Exjw channels continue to open the eyes of these people and thank you for all your work and healing that you give to us who leave teaching us to hope for better things now not waiting because NINE MEN said so! Now this cult is in the last of its last days Stephen was right.
Venus and Serena presented with Quinta Brunson, wearing skimpy dresses, and had the NERVE to villify another sport celeb for his Christian values. On stage. Crazy
Not celebrating birthdays has nothing to do with pagan rituals. Witnesses are told they can't celebrate birthdays because John the Baptist had his head chopped off at (can't remember the king) the king's birthday in order to please his wife. Somehow, that prohibits godly people from celebrating their own or their children's birthdays ... or are they no longer teaching that BS
It was Herod's Daughter, Salome who Herod was trying to please. He asked her what she wanted for her birthday wish and she replied, Bring me the head of John the Baptist on a plate. I have always struggled with the logic of that situation because, Jesus said that the greatest human he knew was John the Baptist. Yet when he wanted to carry out the odd miracle or two he resurrected Lazarus but not his pal John. From this illustration as the greatest biblical example of, throwing someone under the bus, it showed Jesus wasn't so into JTB as he would have us believe.
@@jonathanmills5747 Right well same difference. Ridiculous excuse for prohibiting people from celebrating their birthdays. I mean, they like to go one about how life is the greatest gift from God so we need to be thankful and treat our bodies like temples, but hey! Don't celebrate that precious gift from God! Because it offends him? 🤔
@@jonathanmills5747Actually, it was Herod Antipas’ birthday. Salome, his stepdaughter, was dancing, and in exchange Herod offered her whatever she wanted, up to “the half of the kingdom”. After consulting with her mother, Herodias, she asked for the head of John the Baptist on a silver platter. Antipas at first tried to get out of his agreement only to acquiesce when told that his refusal would cause him to lose face with his guests.
@@thomash.schwed3662 thanks for your words, but my n "new light" interpretation was based on me not correctly knowing what I was talking about. (I'm being sarcastic). I learned that inaccurate guessing technique from the bible studies I have had over the years.
She was thanking Jehovah for assisting her in her sport when our children were not allowed to participate in sports. I started school in the 50’s and there was no question about how we conducted ourselves. My parents went to the school and explained to our teachers that we would sit through the anthem and stand during the pledge of allegiance with our hands at our sides looking respectfully at the flag. It wasn’t until my family moved to the state of Washington and saw what we considered the cowardice and hypocrisy of the families within the congregation we were attending. At a school function or sporting event that we might attend and noted other families there we were really shocked to see them make sure to be up at the concession stands or walking around so as not to be sitting in the stands as the anthem began to play. At every event we ever attended, we were the only JW family present that was sitting. Today at 75 years old and having left the organization 8 years ago I stand out of respect for those who have served and for the families that have lost sons, fathers and husbands serving their country.
I have BEEN discussing this topic for years. I have tremendous respect & admiration for what Serena & Venus have accomplished. They have made history and I'm proud to say I have seen them both play at the US Open. Their imagery is everywhere. I have no issue with any of that. They BOTH know what they have accomplished, the incredible lives they have are IMPOSSIBLE for everyday, "rank & file" JWs and it is frustrating that they let this "JWs are just like others with incredible success" narrative continue after all these years. But what annoys me the MOST are the everyday, "regular" JWs claiming Serena & Venus and ACTING like they are so great and acceptable when THEY KNOW if it was anyone they knew doing not even a third of what the Williams Sisters have done, they would have been kicked out of this goofy azz cult or at the very least, "marked" and judged terribly for it. JWs do this all the time with celebs and those governing nobodies look the other way because they are getting niiiice donations from these very wealthy "JWs." The "lovey dovey" comments on their social accounts are the most telling. The way JWs just LOVE Serena and Venus is so hypocritical & fake. The Williams Sisters are not the only ones either. Watchtower leadership been doing this and "allowing" it for years. Just look at all the support Marques Houston gets on his social accounts from JWs and he CLEARLY groomed an underage girl and now they have TWO kids. I could go on. The Scotts. Larry Graham. Prince. MJ (although he got some pushback over Thriller in the 80s), Coco Rocha. Rich people have different rules. And watchtower leaders are full of doodoo. They are NOT "different from the world" or many other religions in this respect.
Seeing her get special treatment and enjoying the best of both worlds without having to lose family and do what she wants makes me feel betrayed. I couldn't so much as play chess or school sports (not that I was athletic enough to begin with) and yet seeing this gets my blood boiling. To any JWs saying "She's not a real Witness" is bologna. She is a babtised witness and gets to wear clothes that would get you counseled by the Elders and then some. Gets to go to parties that would get you counseled or marked.
It won't be the first time the watchtowers do this "special treatment" to their wealthie/famous members. Do you remember The Jackson family? Michael, Janet, LaToya, etc...were able to do whatever they want in exchange to a hefty donation. When $$ talks, no problem. Bad witness watchers.
Definitely knew it was a double standard when some of the sisters used to brag about the rich ones in the congregation. I used to think about how I thought that wasn’t a normal thing for JW’s to do. Idolizing riches and such.
I asked my mother that's s JW about a sister that got DF years ago. If she heard anything about her. She told me she was doing really good. Married a doctor and they bought a new house 🤣. That's why I don't bother attending JW meetings. They act a way in hall and another at home
@@Wooddweller it’s because they miserable. Fake smiles fake friends . Real friends only until you decide you like something they don’t . And you don’t need to be a witness to find satisfaction in life.
I had no idea she was a practicing witness, and that she’s raising her child as one too. My feelings about her are…different now. You’re kind of assigning qualities to her that we don’t know that she has. She isn’t calling out their rules. She doesn’t allow her daughter to celebrate birthdays. Her husband is now a Jehovas witness too. These are recent decisions that she made. She isn’t calling out the church’s hypocrisy, she’s fully bought into it.
When I was a kid growing up in this religion I could never play any sports at school.. I could not have any clothing with the American flag.. now we see the preferential treatment... Well at least they're inconsistent as ever .. it will be ok For Serena just keep writing those checks to Watchtower Corp!
I wanna see what happens too....I walked away years ago....on my own after I realized (doing deep study of many articles and other bibles) that this "organization" is not godly religion but rather something else ruled by misogynous men. Others including my biological sister wants to know why I left. I tell them that that is between me and Jehovah (I do believe that God has a proper name, which has nothing to do with the "organization"). Plus, I don't want to influence their personal division. I was not reproved or disfellowshipped. I was sitting in the Hall after 12 years and noticing so much that didn't make sense, got up and walked out. Not angry or anything. I did learn a lot, because before them, I had no religious knowledge of God, Jesus, Apostles...nothing. So the JWs gave me a bases and a will to want to learn more. But when I' TOLD not to read other Bibles or information, then of course I will do that just...READ IT! Because I want to know what you think I should not know. WTF! I hated the fake way that they talk almost is whispers. And the women were always to nosey and I was always putting one of them in their place...saying back off and I was a JW then. They get in your business all under the guise of "being loving". They'd ask questions of me that I would never ask of them or anyone I didn't know. The fact, yes look up facts of how many of the men, including "elders" have been found guilty of mishandling women (but they try to keep that hush-hush). And, LAWD, everything outside of their stuff is "demonic". I listen to my sister (I really regret introducing her to this "organization" as they have her mind totally and she believes everything they say and so afraid that she will be struck down if she looks at anything that contradicts the "organization's" truth) and laugh or ignore some of her rants and fears. I have to remind her that it was I who introduced her...she and I are 19 years apart and I have a must stronger mind and am not easily influenced and I have always been able to tell people to kick rocks if you step on what is right for me too much. Plus I am not easily intimidated. For me God is GOD and only HE is all-knowing and omniscient and omnipresent. The Bible, all of them shows that God decided to speak to whomever HE decided HE wanted to speak to or to reveal to. And for an "organization" to say that the Almighty GOD only speaks to those few men is just BS. Hell, all you have to do is read the entire history of the JWs and if you have any sense you can see that their rules are based first on one or more of those men that started this "organization" with a little bible sprinkled in and with much twisted.
Imo JWs like to gossip about how cool a celebrity got baptized as some cheap thrill to validate their beliefs. However, simultaneously from what I've experienced is they don't actually really count them as Jws. If they did, they would need to hold them accountable. On another note, I found it rich how she got on stage during a recent award and talked trash about the football player that gave the commencement speech. JW's equally support traditional values and have far more disturbing and dangerous ideologies... 🤷
I remember standing for the PoA in elem/mid school, but I did not repeat the words or place my hand over my heart. I never got any flak from anyone, ever.
@@reneesalvatori1996 The same is told about Michelle Obama. Those are rumours spread by racists who think black women have masculine features because they don’t fit the eurocentric beauty standards in North American society. Don’t fall for it and make a fool of yourself.
The same is told about Michelle Obama. Those are rumours spread by racists who think black women have masculine features because they don’t fit the eurocentric beauty standards in North American society. Don’t fall for it and make a fool of yourself.
The same is told about Michelle Obama. Those are rumours spread by racists who think black women have masculine features because they don’t fit the eurocentric beauty standards in North American society. Don’t fall for it and make a fool of yourself.
@Katiegirlluv Her Father molded and trained both her and Serena since very young teens in tennis. It’s very common knowledge. He did such a phenomenal job that a movie “king Richard” about him won Will Smith a “Best Male Actor “ Oscar. Google it. Correction : “ both her and Venus”
As an athiest, I never once stood for the pledge/flag at school, as a demonstration of free speech; this was in Texas. I never received disdain or grief from other students or teachers.
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Somebody needs to tell Sister Serena to be no part of the world!! Good thing she has the money to pay her way out of it!
Or, to put it another way: It’s a good thing she can afford to blackmail the Society. She may not realize it, but she’s actually exposing the hypocrisy of the Society.
@@thomash.schwed3662Yes! I want her to continue doing exactly what she’s doing. Don’t shy away from the Olympics, do wear anything you want for a photo shoot.
It makes the GB look hypocritical and powerless. No complaints from me!
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Thank you 🙏
Just wearing a jacket with an American flag on it would get most JWs a talk with the elders.
I know of one jw who’s cowboy boots had a small flag embossed on the side. He got talked to by the elders.
Yes! Yes! Yes! My point exactly! I couldn't join red cross because my mom said they have events where they are given National Flags. I was so disappointed. 😢
Surely DFd for lesser. 🥴
@@Scott_From_Maine i've never heard of this, i only know that JWs just go and knock on peoples doors to join their religion. why is it frowned upon to wear an american flag? is it any national flag? or just an american one
@@LUCKY-lf2jv They don't want to show allegiance to any government on earth.
The hypocrisy speaks volumes.
Which church are preaching the gospel of the kingdom around the world to all nations as Jesus Christ said? Matthew 10:16, 24:14, 28:19-20, Mark 13:10, if not only only only the Jehovah's witnesses..
@@vusimngomezulu2500 Jesus and gods have never been demonstrated to exist. Therefore it matters not what church is teaching what. Unless you have some proof you can show me that isn’t the Bible or look at the trees, or the watchmaker fallacy.
@@vusimngomezulu2500 Who is telling all nations around the whole world of the Existance of Spiderman? Marvel Comics.
And your point is?@@vusimngomezulu2500
@@vusimngomezulu2500 Do you even watch these videos? Are you a bot? Why do you harass this channel constantly?
It’s so easy being a baptized JW late in life after you’ve already lived your life the way you wanted, made millions of dollars, and been a celebrity for over 3 decades.
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@IsBeingHello she had been associated with them prior to her getting baptized, that was all part of the plan, put career first, make the money then join, that's how her father taught her! So she makes endorsements, occasional appearances and still makes tons of money. Not to mention join worldly parties with A listers, associate with them. So she's isn't really all gun ho with JW since she shows off alot of skin attending awards. No modesty on her part, skin tight clothing.
I’m so glad Jehovah god is helping her win medals while he’s letting my faithful jw brother die with cancer :/
I’m sorry 😢
Exactly what I was thinking when I saw this. My wife died 4 years ago. She put J always at thefirst place in her life. We even served as rp’s in China for 12 years. After we came back she got CJD. It only took 3 month to have her brains rotten away and die a horrific death. So, J helped mrs. Williams to add a few more millions to her overloaded bank account and let this faithful pioneer rot away. Well, thank you.
I think I understand how you feel about this and I’m on your side in this one.
And clearly he's too busy answering Serena's prayers to worry about the desperate screams and prayers of little girls undergoing genital mutilation, often in the name of religion.
Dear Lord what 💩 Show! So Disgusting. Cognitive dissonance must be recking Havoc….., I hope. Mine went off in 2020 been shunned since !
@@thrumyeyesmt.6344 Happily shunned going on a year.
All JW's are equal, but some are more equal than others.
@@simonkoster Thats why all JWS should stand up to the governing body there evil coruption
Yeah bethelites get kicked out with out a dime. GB member kicked out gets a house 🤣
@@charrua59
What house does a governing body member get if they get kicked out? In fact, what house does any governing body member have That's provided by the society at all? They all live in bethel along with the bethelites, any properties that they possess are as a result of what they earned before they became witnesses, but This is nothing to do with you anyway. Their positions are their own, they don't benefit personally or financially from being a member of the governing body... And if you disagree, show me what they get as a result of being A governing body member.
They bought anthony morris a house the terms and conditions are publicly available online once he and his wife die watchtower gets ownership of the house back. @leecooper3852
@@leecooper3852 there's videos about Morrison case. Online documents house bought by watchtower so he can live there till day he dies. Even Raymond Franz received money from Watchtower after being removed as GB member. It's in his book.
The treatment of Serena Williams has always bothered me. She definitely gets special treatment. Jehovah’s Witnesses are told to not play sports in school, and it’s something I am really sad I missed out on during my high school life. The rules just don’t apply to Williams I guess.
She didn't have a Witness dad, that's why. Same as MJ. I remember people in 1983 telling me "but he's our brother!"
I’m sure the monetary donations help with the special treatment!!
People like her make watchtower look like a joke when many people who came into the org from the ‘world’ were really serious about the ‘truth.’
She established herself as a tennis player and pursued her career before she even got baptized and she wears riskè outfits very unbecoming as a Witness.
I agree! I could've been captain of the synchronized swimming team!
Our son played in the nhl. You can put your kids in sports but it’s frowned upon. We just did it and ignored the criticism. Over the years we stopped being a member of this cult.
I totally applaude your decision regarding putting your kids in sports. We did as well. While never making it to the professional level (we were involved in hockey also!), there were innumerable benefits to our sons - learning to be a team member, character building, healthy physical activity and making some amazing memories. As a consequence, we were sort of “marked” in our congregation. I guess that was also a benefit. Our whole family is free of this organization now.
Good for you for doing that!
😅 glad ya'll got outta there. They know it's nothing to do with love of God, but rather missing night meetings
@@PricklyPear-g3r I agree about the marked comment. Our family is happy to be free as well. It’s so odd to me still when we all celebrate Christmas. Having been raised as a JW my first real Christmas was at age 50!
JW leadership are not going to bother with dissing Serena and cut off the big donation! She will do what ever she wants.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again; Watchtower is a BUSINESS! And a struggling one at that. The only principle they uphold universally is protecting their bottom line. EVERYTHING else is flexible.
Serena Williams is a brand ambassador, and that's good for business.
hypocrisy is alive and thriving in this one
Prince , Michael Jackson , George Benson, ect they all get special treatment .. it’s call $$$
Michael Jackson did not 😢
@@jessicaesmeralda7576But, in all honesty, though, with the “Thriller” LP-and particularly after the Pepsi commercial-Wacko Jacko was simply too bizarre even for the Society. The situation with him was so outlandish that the Society instructed the news servants to take the “no comment” route during the 1987 district assembly. Just how crazy does someone have be for even the Society to distance itself from him?
Don’t forget Larry Graham.
Just like scientology. Having celebrities brings in more people who are infatuated with them. It's a point of reference for members to refer to and feel important. It's Watchtower's marketing tool. Many think these celebrities are paying watchtower. Watchtower has bought a lot of people. It's all about image. Religion is a business and operates just like one.
Prince too??
The founder Charles Russell celebrated holidays. it’s when Rutherford gained leadership that all celebration of holidays stopped. I wish JW would research this fact!
Absolutely, thanks for the reminder. Once WT staff rewrote the Bible in 1950, the transformation to an isolationist cult was complete. Prior to that, it was a regular religion that had no problems with ANY holidays until Rutherford hijacked it.
They are that brain controlled that they think "god" will be watching them do it.
@@Duhble07😢
That’s exactly what I found out when I researched the religion & I’m not even a JW. Unfortunately my aunt is the only family member that is JW & she’s been in this religion for decades. However, through further research I found my aunt half-assed it the entire time. She didn’t even do half things she was supposed to do. I don’t even think she was even baptized.
Charles Taze Russell was NOT the founder of the JW religion. He was responsible for the modern-day start of JWs here in the U.S., but he was NOT the founder of the religion. Jehovah's Witnesses have been around for thousands of years. As far as Pastor Russell celebrating holidays is concerned, he might have celebrated holidays at first, but he and others did not have a full knowledge of the truth back then. The light gets brighter and brighter as our understanding of the Bible becomes clearer as time progresses.--Proverbs 4:18.
All respect to Serena, she earned everything she did. Not taking way from that. Every time someone brings her up, i bring up the double standard and how many talented witnesses i know who had their flames snuffed, and various other rules that hurt witnesses, like the elder who had to step down because his daughter, who was an adult, was marrying someone who was going to be baptized at the next convention, meaning not baptized. Most people also scratch their head at that, rightfully.
Lots of people earn everything they do yet we don't make lots of money that's not right people get rich to many are poor the world is evil
Respect???
@@peterbunyan3924 Yes, respect. Becoming an Olympian is a big deal, no matter who you are. That doesn't mean I would let her tell me how to live, but it does mean I would let her tell me how to play her sport.
My problem is not with Serena. It is with the double standard that allows her to be such a ‘part of this world’ without comment from the governing body. As children we were not allowed to play school sports or join other worldly activities that other children participated in. Every time she ‘thanks Jehovah’ for helping her win a match or a sports award, I want to scream! It just proves to me that she doesn’t really understand the rules or doctrines of the Jehovah’s Witness’ nor have the Elders in her congregation ever spoken to her about it! I do believe it is about notoriety and money. There is definitely a double standard for the everyday, hard working, middle class Witness.
@@dianerosentrater3813I think she understands the rules, I just think she doesn’t care!
Thanks for the video. When I saw the opening ceremony yesterday, I immediately thought about the double standards of the Watchtower Society.
You know she is given special treatment. I am sure she and family are able to donate lots of money to JW Org so……
I didn’t even think about that, they care more about money than anything else which is why you’re not allowed to talk to your fellowship relatives but if you’re old, your children are allowed to come take care of you just so watchtower doesn’t have to
It's the same reason Katherine Jackson is also an upstanding member in this cult. She openly admitted to accepting birthday gifts from her famous kids, yet no one speeched her off or castigated her.😂
Think they'll try to sweep this under Jehovah's rug.
Tell me they don’t IDOLIZE her. That little hit of adrenaline when someone famous says the name of their man made God is very powerful.
It definitely doesn't hurt the organization
GODS name is YHWH
That's the English version lol Hebrew reads right to left @@amc3463
I seen soo many Jws send me videos of her getting baptised and I was shocked. The idolatry of someone super worldly. Not surprised since they worship the governing body.
@@amc3463 The name written in that book, all gods are man made
The fact she’s allowed to be all public with her tennis speaks volumes within itself. I’ve seen SO much propaganda that condemns sports as a waste of time and a distraction from Jehovah, hell there’s even a Caleb and Sofia video about it I think
Mind you it is also a pretty good propaganda tool too I suppose
Yes
Hey Wally. Watchtower would never treat Serena Williams the same as the normal Jw. Goes to show once again the real ' entity ' that they worship.
I was raised a JW by my mom. Dad was agnostic ex Air Force. Dad and i went to a game and they played the anthem. What do I do. I stood up proudly put my hand on my heart like a proud Aussie.
As kids we would attend our schools sporting events and always stood with everyone else to show respect. Just didn’t put our hand over our heart or say the pledge. It was the same in the classroom.
Right. They never removed her ... or her parents ... for playing international tennis competitions FOR YEARS but they're going to remove her for carrying the torch. Right.
Back when I was a kid, I was a JW. I never stood for the pledge of allegiance, no one ever said anything to me. I never stood for the natl anthem, again , no one ever said anything to me.
I was thinking the same thing when I saw that tableau of the family. Admittedly, I haven’t attended a professional baseball game in easily thirty years, back when free tickets would be distributed to all the students at school. Nonetheless, when I did attend ball games, the fact that I remained seated during the national anthem was never an issue. No one even gave me so much as a cold stare. The Society loves presenting the worst-case scenario at every opportunity.
@@thomash.schwed3662Yup. They are ridiculous. No one ever cared if we were sitting and many “worldly” people don’t stand for the national anthem, either. Funny, I know that brother. He’s an elder and he and his wife live at bethel. They have no kids, of course. Waiting for the new system 🤦♀️
@hikerliz I was, all rhe time, especially by my teachers. I was bullied by Mt classmates severely. Everyday I was persecuted especially the worst year of my life in 8th grade.
@Dottie, you wont have to wait very long..... the NEW WORLD order is being put in place in real time, evidenced by the social collapse, especially in USA and UK, This cult, typical to their character replaces "order" with "system"
It seems no one said too much against Watchtower president Nathan Knorr either when he, having forbidden you to take that oath, took the oath himself in order to get a passport. The old 'don't do as I do, do as I say.'
Watchtower society has always treated celebrity JW's differently than the average member... celebrity members bring them lots of cash.
Like Prince and Michael Jackson
@@FirsteMann1929thought MJ was DF though?
@@FirsteMann1929yes
At the local level, too - businessmen and other people perceived as influential - such as families of elders - get treated a whole lot more generously than people who haven't got pull. One of a thousand things that opened my eyes after a decade of devotion.
@@missironmouse MJ disassociated himself.
Serena deserve all her achievements, she worked hard. But she didn’t get baptized as a youth but after all her accomplishments and retirement. The average witness children get the life sucked out of them and their dreams and talents crushed. It’s tragic. Serena did not give anything up for Jehovah. Her children won’t either.
John 3:16
I agree with you but she’s raising her kids JW - she said as much in a People magazine back in 2018.
@@drkaceyyeah but now her kids are millionaires as she insured they would be by following her dreams. Her kids are very likely to be able to follow their dreams since they are millionaires and won’t have to choose between schooling or training /competing (if they choose sports) or providing for themselves financially WHILE being active in the organization. So they will be able to maintain their activity in the org and follow their dreams. By following her dreams she made it possible for her children to do the same without needing to sacrifice their other interests since their essential needs have already been met.
@ being raised in this cult is traumatic and no amount of money can wash that away sadly.
The first clip of the young boy wanting to sign the birthday card for his classmate brought me to tears. All the over thinking just over signing a card. Over something so simple…no wonder people who have been in it for decades had difficulty making decisions & over thing to much over things that don’t need to much thought & energy.
Gee, I sure hope she doesn't stumble her whole congregation or anything like that. 😀
Rules are for the little people. This is true in all religions and all facets of society.
Of course she does, follow the money!
This cult is crazy 😂😂😂
Also, when I was a kid, there was a rule that we couldn't participate in sports, even school teams, because Jehovah's witnesses aren't supposed to compete ... for some reason. I had to hide the fact I was playing for multiple school teams (forged mother's signature, lied and said I had to stay in after school to complete projects, etc. ... Ooooo I was a REAL sinner! LOL)
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Around 1994 a group of us jws went to a hockey game and we all sat for the national anthem. I felt totally dumb. I got baptized in 1989 and the last elder asked me if the president of the usa walked in would i stand? I said no. He said YES. Then he asked me if Jack Kemp the us congressman walked in would i stand? I said yes...? Really weird.
Cult leaders are never "in a pinch". They can rationalize anything and the cult members will happily accept it without question, even if it contradicts how regular people are treated. That's why it's a cult.
$erena William$ is one of the best $Ads campaign$ for the JW CULT.
I remember when the Olympics were in Britain in 2012 and an elder from one congregation had the privilege of being a torch bearer. Needless to say he was removed quite promptly!!
@@paulhearse1202 I'd love to hear that story.
All men are equal, but some are more equal than others.
They are so funny, in reality nobody gaf what you do during the anthem.
Exactly😂😂😂😂they love playing victim in every video they have, it’s so fucking weird
this. no one careeeeess...
Thank you for doing this. I was disgusted seeing her last night, being part of what the WT describes as a nationalistic rite filled with pagan Greek tradition. This is the same as setting up a "Nimrod Bush" (Christmas Tree). The Awake had an article back in the day about how absolutely pagan the Olympics are, and that no true Christian would be involved in it. If she gets a pass it will only be because she gives money to WT. Two separate classes within the org. BTW, is she still a spokeswoman for UNICEF? Any rank and file JW would be slammed for this behavior.
l did not see her till now,Yuk, good job l would have chucked something at the tele. 😂Could never watch her playing tennis.
Overreacting a bit
I can’t figure out WHY Serena Williams wants to be a JW and raise her children in a way that she didn’t have to suffer. Let’s hope she doesn’t let them get baptized until, like her, they get to fulfill their dreams.
How did she get into it??
@@Katiegirlluv I believe she was (sort of) raised in it. More her mother than father. The father saw her and her sister’s potential in tennis and moved them along that path. I believe there is a movie called “King Richard” about it. Stars Will Smith playing the role of the Dad, Richard.
LOL For sure--she is teaching them now "no baptism until you fulfill your dreams." 😅
I don't think she will get pulled to the back room
I'm sure they are VERY careful with the way they talk to her.
Back of the room”? man that brought back memories 😂never again
Not without her lawyers.
This is not the first thing Serena has been involved in as a newly baptized JW. I mean, her & the family attended The Nutcracker around Xmas.
She’ll continue to live her life as is, just like Prince did & nothing will happen. WT have double standards, period. They even have double standards for Elders who commit sins b4 appointments & confess to them yeeeeeears down the line.
She is their Tom Cruise.
Of course she is, she got that thing wt loves....$$$$
A normal Jehovah witness wouldn’t even be able to play sports as a kid to even learn how to make it to the Olympics lol 😂 😂💯💯
I got so many dirty looks from teachers for not doing the pledge of allegiance when I was a kid. I hated being put in that situation.
I still stood up.
Nowadays people get made when one takes knee. I would still stand but not actually “pledge” anything.
Poor kid to be burdened with that decision of signing a card. The fear and anxiety he is feeling is not fair he has to go through this
So Jehovah god waves his Holy Spirit wand and helps Serena win tennis matches and earn millions, but apparently he can’t be bothered when innocent children and babies die from war or starvation. And this is who we’re suppose to worship? Yeah, that’s a hard pass for me.
Agree! And I also realized at this year convention drama that Jehovah didn’t care Herod gives command to kill other children under 2 and SAVES his only son😮The scene Herod’s soldier going for those pure, innocent kid was SO shocking😢I questioned, how couldn’t this God STOPPED Herod’s plan!
Or the kids they molest.
This isa 12/5 stars. Another banger, Wally! Excellent.
You did an excellent job of explaining the rules, but also the culture within the group & organization. 👍🏽
Great Job Wally thanks
I brought up this Serena Williams ceremony thing in a conversation with a few elders and they immediately pulled the "Maybe she's just studying." Card
Do they not know she’s baptized 😂
No organization, religion or group does hypocrisy and double standards anywhere as good as Watchtower!
Likely they'll just call her spiritually immature in whatever congregation she's in
Man I couldn't even have the dream team jersey coming up ain't this some B's she can be in the Olympics must be nice
The Olympics is definitely a no-no. The guilt I felt when in middle school, the entire grade had an Olympic unit. We spent two weeks learning about The Olympic Games culminating in a mock Olympics. I wasn't about the sit two weeks of class out and I wasn't going to miss all the fun. It was like tween field day. So I kept my mouth shut and didn't say a word to my mom about the country I was assigned to represent, the flags and decor I had to make for it and the competition complete with National Anthems of the winners "countries."
Was it the last days of school
Good work
Absolutely she gets "special treatment" and I really question just exactly what her true "association and/or agenda" with this cult really is about. ALL IMO.
I can't believe you got no handle.
@@miuki2721 That's a youtube glitch and nothing I can do about it. My name shows up in live chats but sometimes in comments it does not.
I assume you've tried to change your username to no avail? That's an odd glitch but really neat.
@@miuki2721
Yes
Money talks which give her leniency to the rules of jws. The average jw would be considered worldly for doing the same things such as a lifetime athletic career, red carpet events she attended, music video with Beyonce, pregnant before marriage, etc. etc. Serena got baptized after all her accomplishments and fame, but she was raised as a jw and knows the rules.
We don't know what her mother taught her or believed. Her mother seemed to be very influential in her tennis career along with Dad. Perhaps the mother didn't feel JW rules/goals applied to her or daughters either. We don't really know.
Very cool video
Congratulations on the well-structured and very true material 😊
My goodness!!!!! I was literally just talking about this recently. From red carpet, and parties, to skimpy dresses, to awards ceremony, etc. HOW??? I couldn't even look at magic shows as a kid. Chastised for everything 😢😢😢 how?
I love Serena and seeing her do her thing! Her presence anywhere she pleases is a constant reminder of the GB’s hypocrisy and they are hard pressed to tell her no, so she continues.
On the other hand, we dare you to tell her no, we really do. As Wally said, that would be a PR nightmare.
It’s great seeing them with their hands tied.
She only got baptised as an adult so I’m confused as to how she is so involved in national and Hollywood events
Great job thanks from Brazil ❤
Why is she a JW if she isn’t following the rules
Anyone can call themselves anything. Christiandom calls themselves Christians but they don't follow christ
Because she's highly favored by "Jehovah" and Watchtower and those of us who were raised in (and those who are still trapped in that dreaded cult) aren't. Ah, smell that delicious hypocrisy cake that's burning in some oven in Warwick, New York.
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Money talks! 😮
But she's the one with the money!! So the question, why did she bind herself to a strict religion with lots of extraordinary rules & prohibits 'worldly' association if she's not going to adhere to those tenets? @jemz4555
They pledge allegiance to the organization, not to God
Prince was also a JW. He kept performing music, maybe not his more sexually charging music, but he didn't stop being a musician. Several celebrities have claimed being JWs. Its a sadness
Disfellowshipping her would be catastrophic for their PR and they can’t really afford it right now. She’s bringing massive donations as well and all those lawsuits won’t pay for themselves. 😁
And the WT org is or was a member of the UN!!!!! Hypocrisy is astounding
My older brother prayed to the devil asking for an improvement in his lot in life . The devil didn't want his soul .
I just think she’s too rich and powerful and lives in her own little bubble. She doesn’t care about watchtower or what it means to be a jw
If she got kicked out she could be to WT what Leah Remini is to scientology exposing wt’s dirty laundry
7 years within this cult and today I’ve been 7 years out happier then when I was in this cult. Today I decided to been done with anything concerning these people. Exjw channels continue to open the eyes of these people and thank you for all your work and healing that you give to us who leave teaching us to hope for better things now not waiting because NINE MEN said so! Now this cult is in the last of its last days Stephen was right.
MIchael Jackson didnt even get this level of treatment, he was kept on a very tight reign by the cult leaders. It was his job too.
Serena won a gold medal in Paris for Religious Hypocrisy
Way to go Serena
She's hosting the upcoming ESPY award show, too...
She dis already. It was some weeks ago
Venus and Serena presented with Quinta Brunson, wearing skimpy dresses, and had the NERVE to villify another sport celeb for his Christian values. On stage. Crazy
@@goopat7009
That was some nerve!
@@goopat7009 It was awful.
Not celebrating birthdays has nothing to do with pagan rituals. Witnesses are told they can't celebrate birthdays because John the Baptist had his head chopped off at (can't remember the king) the king's birthday in order to please his wife. Somehow, that prohibits godly people from celebrating their own or their children's birthdays ... or are they no longer teaching that BS
Good point!
It was Herod's Daughter, Salome who Herod was trying to please.
He asked her what she wanted for her birthday wish and she replied, Bring me the head of John the Baptist on a plate.
I have always struggled with the logic of that situation because, Jesus said that the greatest human he knew was John the Baptist.
Yet when he wanted to carry out the odd miracle or two he resurrected Lazarus but not his pal John.
From this illustration as the greatest biblical example of, throwing someone under the bus, it showed Jesus wasn't so into JTB as he would have us believe.
@@jonathanmills5747 Right well same difference. Ridiculous excuse for prohibiting people from celebrating their birthdays. I mean, they like to go one about how life is the greatest gift from God so we need to be thankful and treat our bodies like temples, but hey! Don't celebrate that precious gift from God! Because it offends him? 🤔
@@jonathanmills5747Actually, it was Herod Antipas’ birthday. Salome, his stepdaughter, was dancing, and in exchange Herod offered her whatever she wanted, up to “the half of the kingdom”. After consulting with her mother, Herodias, she asked for the head of John the Baptist on a silver platter. Antipas at first tried to get out of his agreement only to acquiesce when told that his refusal would cause him to lose face with his guests.
@@thomash.schwed3662 thanks for your words, but my n "new light" interpretation was based on me not correctly knowing what I was talking about. (I'm being sarcastic).
I learned that inaccurate guessing technique from the bible studies I have had over the years.
She was thanking Jehovah for assisting her in her sport when our children were not allowed to participate in sports.
I started school in the 50’s and there was no question about how we conducted ourselves. My parents went to the school and explained to our teachers that we would sit through the anthem and stand during the pledge of allegiance with our hands at our sides looking respectfully at the flag. It wasn’t until my family moved to the state of Washington and saw what we considered the cowardice and hypocrisy of the families within the congregation we were attending. At a school function or sporting event that we might attend and noted other families there we were really shocked to see them make sure to be up at the concession stands or walking around so as not to be sitting in the stands as the anthem began to play. At every event we ever attended, we were the only JW family present that was sitting. Today at 75 years old and having left the organization 8 years ago I stand out of respect for those who have served and for the families that have lost sons, fathers and husbands serving their country.
I have BEEN discussing this topic for years. I have tremendous respect & admiration for what Serena & Venus have accomplished. They have made history and I'm proud to say I have seen them both play at the US Open. Their imagery is everywhere. I have no issue with any of that. They BOTH know what they have accomplished, the incredible lives they have are IMPOSSIBLE for everyday, "rank & file" JWs and it is frustrating that they let this "JWs are just like others with incredible success" narrative continue after all these years. But what annoys me the MOST are the everyday, "regular" JWs claiming Serena & Venus and ACTING like they are so great and acceptable when THEY KNOW if it was anyone they knew doing not even a third of what the Williams Sisters have done, they would have been kicked out of this goofy azz cult or at the very least, "marked" and judged terribly for it. JWs do this all the time with celebs and those governing nobodies look the other way because they are getting niiiice donations from these very wealthy "JWs." The "lovey dovey" comments on their social accounts are the most telling. The way JWs just LOVE Serena and Venus is so hypocritical & fake. The Williams Sisters are not the only ones either. Watchtower leadership been doing this and "allowing" it for years. Just look at all the support Marques Houston gets on his social accounts from JWs and he CLEARLY groomed an underage girl and now they have TWO kids. I could go on. The Scotts. Larry Graham. Prince. MJ (although he got some pushback over Thriller in the 80s), Coco Rocha. Rich people have different rules. And watchtower leaders are full of doodoo. They are NOT "different from the world" or many other religions in this respect.
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏼🙏👍
Seeing her get special treatment and enjoying the best of both worlds without having to lose family and do what she wants makes me feel betrayed.
I couldn't so much as play chess or school sports (not that I was athletic enough to begin with) and yet seeing this gets my blood boiling.
To any JWs saying "She's not a real Witness" is bologna. She is a babtised witness and gets to wear clothes that would get you counseled by the Elders and then some. Gets to go to parties that would get you counseled or marked.
It won't be the first time the watchtowers do this "special treatment" to their wealthie/famous members. Do you remember The Jackson family? Michael, Janet, LaToya, etc...were able to do whatever they want in exchange to a hefty donation. When $$ talks, no problem. Bad witness watchers.
Definitely knew it was a double standard when some of the sisters used to brag about the rich ones in the congregation.
I used to think about how I thought that wasn’t a normal thing for JW’s to do. Idolizing riches and such.
I asked my mother that's s JW about a sister that got DF years ago. If she heard anything about her. She told me she was doing really good. Married a doctor and they bought a new house 🤣. That's why I don't bother attending JW meetings. They act a way in hall and another at home
@@charrua59 they ALWAYS do, the true double lifers 🤣 I hate it ! Plus everyone’s always nosey for no reason.
@@Wooddweller it’s because they miserable. Fake smiles fake friends . Real friends only until you decide you like something they don’t . And you don’t need to be a witness to find satisfaction in life.
congrats Wally thanks
Its more about your own parents and how devote they are or how lenient they are. Thats for all religions.
Lol can you imagine turning up to an assembly in that red dress !!😂
I had no idea she was a practicing witness, and that she’s raising her child as one too. My feelings about her are…different now.
You’re kind of assigning qualities to her that we don’t know that she has. She isn’t calling out their rules. She doesn’t allow her daughter to celebrate birthdays. Her husband is now a Jehovas witness too. These are recent decisions that she made. She isn’t calling out the church’s hypocrisy, she’s fully bought into it.
I'm marking Serena 😂
When I was a kid growing up in this religion I could never play any sports at school.. I could not have any clothing with the American flag.. now we see the preferential treatment... Well at least they're inconsistent as ever .. it will be ok For Serena just keep writing those checks to Watchtower Corp!
I wanna see what happens too....I walked away years ago....on my own after I realized (doing deep study of many articles and other bibles) that this "organization" is not godly religion but rather something else ruled by misogynous men. Others including my biological sister wants to know why I left. I tell them that that is between me and Jehovah (I do believe that God has a proper name, which has nothing to do with the "organization"). Plus, I don't want to influence their personal division. I was not reproved or disfellowshipped. I was sitting in the Hall after 12 years and noticing so much that didn't make sense, got up and walked out. Not angry or anything. I did learn a lot, because before them, I had no religious knowledge of God, Jesus, Apostles...nothing. So the JWs gave me a bases and a will to want to learn more. But when I' TOLD not to read other Bibles or information, then of course I will do that just...READ IT! Because I want to know what you think I should not know. WTF! I hated the fake way that they talk almost is whispers. And the women were always to nosey and I was always putting one of them in their place...saying back off and I was a JW then. They get in your business all under the guise of "being loving". They'd ask questions of me that I would never ask of them or anyone I didn't know. The fact, yes look up facts of how many of the men, including "elders" have been found guilty of mishandling women (but they try to keep that hush-hush). And, LAWD, everything outside of their stuff is "demonic". I listen to my sister (I really regret introducing her to this "organization" as they have her mind totally and she believes everything they say and so afraid that she will be struck down if she looks at anything that contradicts the "organization's" truth) and laugh or ignore some of her rants and fears. I have to remind her that it was I who introduced her...she and I are 19 years apart and I have a must stronger mind and am not easily influenced and I have always been able to tell people to kick rocks if you step on what is right for me too much. Plus I am not easily intimidated. For me God is GOD and only HE is all-knowing and omniscient and omnipresent. The Bible, all of them shows that God decided to speak to whomever HE decided HE wanted to speak to or to reveal to. And for an "organization" to say that the Almighty GOD only speaks to those few men is just BS. Hell, all you have to do is read the entire history of the JWs and if you have any sense you can see that their rules are based first on one or more of those men that started this "organization" with a little bible sprinkled in and with much twisted.
I was D/Fd for asking a simple question-Apostate they screamed
She's rich. She's exempt from disfellowshipping.
@@mandeelaw8410 that didn't stop MJ from being disfellowshipped!
@@oliviaswarden6077 it did stop him from caring...
@oliviaswarden6077 tell me one time you heard Micheal Jackson say publicly he regretted his actions that got him disfellowshipped?
@oliviaswarden6077 he was rich and he didn't care, exempt or not.
Imo JWs like to gossip about how cool a celebrity got baptized as some cheap thrill to validate their beliefs. However, simultaneously from what I've experienced is they don't actually really count them as Jws. If they did, they would need to hold them accountable. On another note, I found it rich how she got on stage during a recent award and talked trash about the football player that gave the commencement speech. JW's equally support traditional values and have far more disturbing and dangerous ideologies... 🤷
I remember standing for the PoA in elem/mid school, but I did not repeat the words or place my hand over my heart. I never got any flak from anyone, ever.
Totally agree with your analysis.
To me the most perplexing is a video I saw of those two as young children. Born male. What the what?
That’s what I heard too. They sure look like dudes.
No, they did not and do not look like men. You guys just love masculinizing black women.
@@reneesalvatori1996 The same is told about Michelle Obama. Those are rumours spread by racists who think black women have masculine features because they don’t fit the eurocentric beauty standards in North American society. Don’t fall for it and make a fool of yourself.
The same is told about Michelle Obama. Those are rumours spread by racists who think black women have masculine features because they don’t fit the eurocentric beauty standards in North American society. Don’t fall for it and make a fool of yourself.
The same is told about Michelle Obama. Those are rumours spread by racists who think black women have masculine features because they don’t fit the eurocentric beauty standards in North American society. Don’t fall for it and make a fool of yourself.
I had NO idea she is a witness! What the heck? I'm surprised her parents allowed her to become a tennis star.
@Katiegirlluv
Her Father molded and trained both her and Serena since very young teens in tennis. It’s very common knowledge. He did such a phenomenal job that a movie “king Richard” about him won Will Smith a “Best Male Actor “ Oscar. Google it. Correction : “ both her and Venus”
The williams are awesome people. if you can't see who they are and how god works through them, i pray you will soon
As an athiest, I never once stood for the pledge/flag at school, as a demonstration of free speech; this was in Texas. I never received disdain or grief from other students or teachers.
Just like Michael Jackson or Prince. The larger the checks the easier to get away with ...
You nailed it perfectly