The Cunarder was an ocean liner boat train run to connect with arrivals and departures from Southampton docks of the Queens Mary and Elizabeth. The train was mostly pullmans and was usually hauled by a Lord Nelson until withdrawal in 1962. Given that the Pullman boat trains disappeared with electrification in 1967 the timeline for the set is 1962-66
Thanks, it's just a little tip. As I work on the Bodmin and Wenford railway, we put our GWR head boards on the top of the smoke box and when we have our Beattie or T9 Greyhound out, we put put it in the middle, but our Beattie only has a hook on the top of the smoke box.
I watched them last time too, I was sad that they weren't long videos, but now you've changed that. :) I remember loading up some videos, ironically to watch on a train!!!! since I didn't have wifi and being sad that I had seen all your +15minute videos :D but now you've updated it. :)
With all the fantastic detail on this Cunarder locomotive and the cost i think a smoke unit should be included. Thus engine with DCC and smoker and sound would be just perfect.
The air smoothing was actually not designed to aid performance but to allow the locos to go through carriage washers so cleaning was easier. Another reason for its removal was it was simply in the way for maintenance reasons. The reason for the removal of the chain valve gear was it just didn't work very well because the chains sometimes slipped and the valves went out of time. Other changes include removing a large oil bath which the motion sat in (it would sometimes catch fire at high speeds).
There’s a squadron locomotive at Swanage Railway as well, number 257. I’ve seen that particular one before and been on it. I’ve also seen the cab of it and that was very very cool.
Nice to see her running. She would have slipped out of Waterloo. I rate her as gd as the merchant navy class, you should consider either Hornby Schools class or Bachmann Lord Nelson class. Great review my gdad loved it as he helped build them. Well done Will and thank you for having a bit of southern.
I once went to the GCR, and thay had a "spam can special"! ("Spam Can" was the nickname for the air smoothed battle of britain/west country/merchant navy locos lol!)
One idea for adding weight to light coaches is to take them apart, and then blu-tac 2p coins over the bogies. This helps the rolling stock run more smoothly, and reduces the chance of derailments. :)
very nice loco, i must mention though that the headboards on bulleid go across the 2 lamp irons half way up the smokebox (like they do with clan line & tangmere etc…)
Thanks for the wonderful vids, beautiful loco. I changed my name and previously was called keikuru1 btw, I got tired of youtube bothering me to change my name, can't wait for season 4!
Although I can't comfirm it on the Rebuilt models, it is very easy to fit a smoke generator/DCC decoder to the un-rebuilt engines as there is plenty of room in the body casing. If the body is mounted the same way, single screw at the rear below the footplate, then it should be do able.
Headboard is in the wrong place it is meant to be over the front of the smokebox between the 2 lamp irons because that's how they had then fitted to the Bulleid pacifics
there were other factors at Lewisham, the fact that there was heavy fog that night and the signals being on the wrong side of the line so the driver had to get the fireman to look out for them and tell him what aspect they were showing. Not exactly conducive to safe operation tbh. Then there was the misrouting of another train and the collapse of the bridge running over the line which collapsed onto the wreckage, exacerbating things. The temporary structure built by the army turned out to be so good it's still there to be seen today.
The gearing that you said you can't pronounce is probably the walschaerts valve gear. It is the gearing that runs near the top from the middle driving wheel to the valve chests on each side of the locomotive. A very common type of valve gear.
Sadly, in the 70s/80s loads of these were in Barry scrapline all rusted up but because of that loads of them were sold and restored and now thankfully there are in a immaculate state which is great
There are actually 31 Bulleid Pacifics in preservation. There's 20 Light Pacifics as you said IC82, which of course means there's 11 Merchant Navy's. Two of the most famous in preservation are Merchant Navy No. 35028 'Clan Line' and West Country No. 34046 'Braunton'. 2 of the unrebuilt survivors are West Country No. 34007 'Wadebridge' and Battle of Britain No. 34051 'Winston Churchill'.
No, you misunderstand me. What I mean is that inititally they were named West Country class because they were intended to run in just the West Country - that's why they were named after that area. But as it became apparent that the class was popular and ended up running all over the south of England, they made sure that they dropped that name of class and adopted the name Battle of Britain Class. They didn't want to use the same name as it wasn't true to where they ran anymore.
Good tip with the tacky wax. I've only got one train with a headboard, but I didn't mind using superglue as I'll only ever be using that engine with its own coaches.
Ahh yes well I thought that but it was quite difficult to get it to stick to the middle of the smokebox, plus it covered up the number on the smokebox there too. I thought, just for the purposes of demonstrating the Tacky Wax, at the top would be OK.
The exact words from Wikipedia... "Once it became clear that the locomotives would be used further afield than the West Country, a decision was made to name the remainder after RAF squadrons, airfields, commanders and aircraft that had participated in the Battle of Britain over Kent, Surrey and Sussex during 1940"
They weren't really "designed to be used in different parts of Britain", as the caption at 2:38 says. There were no design differences between the Battle of Britain and West Country locos: just two different series of names based on where each batch of locos would be used.
Great Video. Just a bit of Information, The headboard would not be applied to the top of the locomotive it would be centered in the middle of the smoke box door. :)
Could I ask what the back 'thing' is connecting on the back wheel? Best seen @ 06:32 Been looking everywhere for the answer, thought you might be able to help.
I got the bournemouth belle train pack and it has a battle of britain class with air smooth casing in southern livery and with premium pullman coaches but it was like £170 to £200 so that is a drawback to it
IC82 they have the un-rebuilt and re-built locomotives at the swanage railway there names are EDDYSTONE and MANSTONE the un-rebuilt one is MANSTONE and the re-built one is eddy stone iv seen them both eddystone is in a sideing and with no name plate but her number is 34028 and MANSTONE number is 34070 they are amazing MANSTONE you can still go on eddystone you can't i think shes haveing a overhaul
I admit I did misread the comment I put up you are right :) on another note when you say 3 classes do you mean the Merchant navy class aswell? I don't want to cause an argument or anything but the merchant navy was built first and was heavier than the other 2. They couldn't run on some lines because of that so the other 2 classes were built
That Mechanism genuinely brings a smile to my face.
The Cunarder was an ocean liner boat train run to connect with arrivals and departures from Southampton docks of the Queens Mary and Elizabeth. The train was mostly pullmans and was usually hauled by a Lord Nelson until withdrawal in 1962. Given that the Pullman boat trains disappeared with electrification in 1967 the timeline for the set is 1962-66
Very Nice Will! these types of locos are stunners especially at performing on the mainline! they sound great plus the whistles good too!
Thanks, it's just a little tip. As I work on the Bodmin and Wenford railway, we put our GWR head boards on the top of the smoke box and when we have our Beattie or T9 Greyhound out, we put put it in the middle, but our Beattie only has a hook on the top of the smoke box.
It really is an exquisite locomotive, stunning in every way.
You know Will I am running out of words to say on your review vids! For me your still 'The King!' Best regards, John.
I am incredibly jealous. You have some absolutely beautiful locomotives.
I watched them last time too, I was sad that they weren't long videos, but now you've changed that. :) I remember loading up some videos, ironically to watch on a train!!!! since I didn't have wifi and being sad that I had seen all your +15minute videos :D but now you've updated it. :)
she is a really nice train set and i love the old effect coaches goes perfect with coal locos
With all the fantastic detail on this Cunarder locomotive and the cost i think a smoke unit should be included. Thus engine with DCC and smoker and sound would be just perfect.
The air smoothing was actually not designed to aid performance but to allow the locos to go through carriage washers so cleaning was easier. Another reason for its removal was it was simply in the way for maintenance reasons. The reason for the removal of the chain valve gear was it just didn't work very well because the chains sometimes slipped and the valves went out of time. Other changes include removing a large oil bath which the motion sat in (it would sometimes catch fire at high speeds).
Another cracking video, well done!
Beautiful locomotive. Excellent stuff Will!
Awesome review! I love those rebuilt bulleids! I am getting this pack and the 'Heart of Midlothian' train pack as well for Christmas!
There’s a squadron locomotive at Swanage Railway as well, number 257. I’ve seen that particular one before and been on it. I’ve also seen the cab of it and that was very very cool.
A very good video, what a lovely engine with plenty of detail and power, would like to see this and hear it if it had DCC sound etc
thank you for the praise! I shall do my best to keep it up!
thanks - I'll make sure it's above the buffer beam or in the middle of the smokebox for when it appears on camera again.
Nice to see her running. She would have slipped out of Waterloo. I rate her as gd as the merchant navy class, you should consider either Hornby Schools class or Bachmann Lord Nelson class. Great review my gdad loved it as he helped build them. Well done Will and thank you for having a bit of southern.
I once went to the GCR, and thay had a "spam can special"! ("Spam Can" was the nickname for the air smoothed battle of britain/west country/merchant navy locos lol!)
One idea for adding weight to light coaches is to take them apart, and then blu-tac 2p coins over the bogies. This helps the rolling stock run more smoothly, and reduces the chance of derailments. :)
thanks for the comment! Me too! I did all these years ago lol (only doing them again cos so many people kept asking me to do so)
Great video well done.
nice review have seen this trainpack in m local model shop quite cheap so might get it
very nice loco, i must mention though that the headboards on bulleid go across the 2 lamp irons half way up the smokebox (like they do with clan line & tangmere etc…)
I sure can! And will do. But it'll be after Christmas now.
If only you could still arrive at Southampton docks in a train like this today :-)
Thanks for the wonderful vids, beautiful loco. I changed my name and previously was called keikuru1 btw, I got tired of youtube bothering me to change my name, can't wait for season 4!
I will get one eventually - it's just a case of which one to go for!
Although I can't comfirm it on the Rebuilt models, it is very easy to fit a smoke generator/DCC decoder to the un-rebuilt engines as there is plenty of room in the body casing. If the body is mounted the same way, single screw at the rear below the footplate, then it should be do able.
Headboard is in the wrong place it is meant to be over the front of the smokebox between the 2 lamp irons because that's how they had then fitted to the Bulleid pacifics
there were other factors at Lewisham, the fact that there was heavy fog that night and the signals being on the wrong side of the line so the driver had to get the fireman to look out for them and tell him what aspect they were showing. Not exactly conducive to safe operation tbh. Then there was the misrouting of another train and the collapse of the bridge running over the line which collapsed onto the wreckage, exacerbating things. The temporary structure built by the army turned out to be so good it's still there to be seen today.
A fab loco one of my fav ones
I think it was a charter service layed on by the ocean liner companies such as Cunard to get its passengers from London to the port at Sounthampton.
Wow thats a big shelf!
26@:08 epic clip and epic review well done
I love this Cunarder locomotive, I wish I could afford to purchase one just to put it on display. 😟
Nice review once again. :-D
Awesome Video Will :) I have this pack and its amazing :D
The gearing that you said you can't pronounce is probably the walschaerts valve gear. It is the gearing that runs near the top from the middle driving wheel to the valve chests on each side of the locomotive. A very common type of valve gear.
Sadly, in the 70s/80s loads of these were in Barry scrapline all rusted up but because of that loads of them were sold and restored and now thankfully there are in a immaculate state which is great
From what I read, the driver's fatigue played the greatest part in the crash.
I shall check out your channel later this morning! Thanks for the comment
Yup! I must have gone thru some sort of mad Hornby train pack phase haha
When they were de-streamlined they also had a more conventional valve gear fitted to replace the unreliable chain driven gear they originally had.
Yes, I've had literally hundreds of requests to do Lego train set vids too, which is why that's all being built alongside the OO track.
There are actually 31 Bulleid Pacifics in preservation. There's 20 Light Pacifics as you said IC82, which of course means there's 11 Merchant Navy's. Two of the most famous in preservation are Merchant Navy No. 35028 'Clan Line' and West Country No. 34046 'Braunton'. 2 of the unrebuilt survivors are West Country No. 34007 'Wadebridge' and Battle of Britain No. 34051 'Winston Churchill'.
Wow! That was LOUD!
Lots more to get then! By the sounds of it haha
No, you misunderstand me. What I mean is that inititally they were named West Country class because they were intended to run in just the West Country - that's why they were named after that area. But as it became apparent that the class was popular and ended up running all over the south of England, they made sure that they dropped that name of class and adopted the name Battle of Britain Class. They didn't want to use the same name as it wasn't true to where they ran anymore.
Part 2 features the plans for it. Then Part 3 looks at building the baseboards, etc. That's all in Series 4 : Proper which starts in Dec.
Thanks!
Good tip with the tacky wax. I've only got one train with a headboard, but I didn't mind using superglue as I'll only ever be using that engine with its own coaches.
Cunard was the company that owned the ocean liners they were manufactured by companies like John Brown in Clydebank
Awesome vid. Thanks :)
1:25 The locomotive of the Cunarder pack looks almost exactly like the Emerald Night LEGO train set.
thanks matey!!!
haha well they are! Keep an eye on them!
Ahh yes well I thought that but it was quite difficult to get it to stick to the middle of the smokebox, plus it covered up the number on the smokebox there too. I thought, just for the purposes of demonstrating the Tacky Wax, at the top would be OK.
Lovely loco will I enjoyed the history lessons :) I would like to if you will be getting a full diesal Pullman train when on your proper layout
cheers!
should be done for the end of the mini-series
That's the one! Thanks for the comment
Cant wait.
Maybe one day!
I just found out that 213 Squadron was cut up on the 31st of March, 1968. So now we know.
60 Locomotives of the 110 Built West Country/Battle of Britain classes where rebuilt
The exact words from Wikipedia... "Once it became clear that the locomotives would be used further afield than the West Country, a decision was made to name the remainder after RAF squadrons, airfields, commanders and aircraft that had participated in the Battle of Britain over Kent, Surrey and Sussex during 1940"
it is indeed! very easy for the average person to get them confused with one another
thanks for the comment!
She is amazing but when are we going to see your layout upstairs?
They weren't really "designed to be used in different parts of Britain", as the caption at 2:38 says. There were no design differences between the Battle of Britain and West Country locos: just two different series of names based on where each batch of locos would be used.
I prefer the new packiging - it is much more secure for the loco I think
Fair enough. I think "intended" is a much better word to use than "designed".
those wheels, were fantastic, they used less material than lms or lner wheels, were lighter and stronger.
Great Video. Just a bit of Information, The headboard would not be applied to the top of the locomotive it would be centered in the middle of the smoke box door. :)
Thanks for the offer - do you have any photos of your previous work?
Oh he'll be back - trust me (he basically kicks off Series 4 : Proper)
Just to say that the headboard is in the wrong position but great review and great loco
Showcase the Hornby Tornado Pullman Set!
Also, I have some videos on my channel of the Severn Valley Railway's rebuilt Battle of Britain class 'Sir Keith Park'
want one so bad!
hi i like your videos cool train what will the lego track be when done im a huge fan of lego and trains
It's a Southern engine, the headboard goes just above the buffer beam, not up the top like GWR engines.
haha yes! If only!
You won't be dissapointed!
Another great video!
When they say rebuilt, can they also say bullied? i heard it on this old documentary called STEAM.
You should fit her With a sound decoder ? You should think of getting a Nswgr 32 .class 3801 or a 60.class 4.8.4+4.8.4
Could I ask what the back 'thing' is connecting on the back wheel? Best seen @ 06:32
Been looking everywhere for the answer, thought you might be able to help.
I got the bournemouth belle train pack and it has a battle of britain class with air smooth casing in southern livery and with premium pullman coaches but it was like £170 to £200 so that is a drawback to it
Maybe one day.
a good tip!
When do we get to see the layout up stairs :)
IC82 they have the un-rebuilt and re-built locomotives at the swanage railway there names are EDDYSTONE and MANSTONE the un-rebuilt one is MANSTONE and the re-built one is eddy stone iv seen them both eddystone is in a sideing and with no name plate but her number is 34028 and MANSTONE number is 34070 they are amazing MANSTONE you can still go on eddystone you can't i think shes haveing a overhaul
are you talking about the accident that happened on December 4 1957?
16 parts - we're about half way
Oliver Bulliad Was a New Zealander!
When you mentioned your new layout, do you have a separate channel for it or do you not put videos of it on TH-cam at all?
***** It isn't done yet
I admit I did misread the comment I put up you are right :)
on another note when you say 3 classes do you mean the Merchant navy class aswell? I don't want to cause an argument or anything but the merchant navy was built first and was heavier than the other 2. They couldn't run on some lines because of that so the other 2 classes were built
Nice review. Didn't spot the creeper in this vid, was he hiding somewhere XD