I love Matthew Gray! I heard him on my cds Lectures on Jesus the Christ. I’ve listened to that cd about 20 times😊. Having that background has given me such good insights on the sacrament. Also gives great insights on why Christ bugged the Jewish leaders so much. Thanks for having all these fantastic scholars week after week! I feel so blessed❤️
Dr Grey touches on the fact that Joseph Smith instigated inclusion of women, if I interpreted correctly. In this episode, he mentions that. There's so much covered, I find myself needing to relisten to sections in order to truly listen.
Good question, I’m sure they participated just like other people from different Tribes. We will get to the story of Hannah who went yearly to the temple with her husband, its not explained which part of the tabernacle they were allowed to be in but it says that she was praying for a Son when the Priest Eli noticed and spoke to her. I’m looking forward to that Podcast 😍
Years ago, in a teaching class, the instructor indicated that the more senses you could engage in the learning process, the more powerful learning retention was created. Our brains were designed to learn and recall through our senses. Learning about the sensory experience of ancient temple worship, really displays the omniscience of a loving God who wants to teach and draw His children to His presence. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and perspective.
Thank you, this was great, I felt like I was able to appreciate the nuances and sensory feel of the tabernacle for the first time, you put me in there alongside the temple goers, experiencing some of what they did.. And the added bonus of further contextual understanding and appreciation of John the Baptists priestly lineage... And the context of the ripping of the temple veil...priceless... Thanks again...
I mean, it's nice to keep in mind what Jews might "only" have been getting out of the Mosaic temple rituals, if it's for purposes now of appreciating our Judaic fellowmen?...but that's one big thing the Book of Mormon is teaching, through multiple teachers and centuries...that everything about the Law of Moses and the performances and ordinances pointed to Christ...that the Lord gave all of this to point the people to Him, and it was just the continued misunderstanding, and looking beyond the mark, etc., of the people to whom the law was given, that prevented them from seeing Christ and having everything about the temple teach them about the Great High Priest and His Atonement, etc. I kind of wonder why exactly Dr. Grey is trying so hard to walk back any encouragement for us to go ahead and see all of this as relating exactly to Christ and everything about Him and His relationship with us, and what He intends as many of God's children as are willing, to become? That's what Jacob, with his understanding of the Mosaic law, in Jacob 1 and 4, having seen Christ himself, and I suppose having priesthood authority among the Nephites and really understanding his calling, was desperately trying to invite and encourage and teach his people and us--he mentions how Israel just never really got it, but he asks, why not attain to a perfect knowledge of Christ? If we're going to get into Hebrews so much too, Hebrews is a book known for using words like "approach boldly"....We don't need to walk anything back. That's what the Israelites did in Exodus...start to see what it might mean for them to really learn about God or really become like Him, and they immediately started walking everything back. God would like anyone to become like Jacob or Isaiah, and really associate His creations and plans with Him and His attributes and goals, as Moses 6 mentions; there He says, everything is created to bear record of and typify Him. Just because previous peoples, to whom the symbolism was given, might not have really realized everything the Lord meant for them to have, doesn't mean we need to miss out on it.
My take is that Dr Grey is NOT steering us away from Christ but asking us to approach this sacred literature as we would any serious study of a text. The objective is to allow the text to help us see differently than before. Suspend our preconceived notions temporarily in order to invest in another's experience (ie, ancient Israelites) and therefore expand our own abilities to see God's messages in everything. Again, if the Jews themselves overlooked their Messiah, why wouldn't we want to increase our empathy and grasp of their shortsightedness? If our objective is to help bridge gaps, reconcile differences, and bring others to the true God of Israel- why wouldn't we want to 'get in their heads' by means of understanding their paradigm? Then, as Dr Grey said during the entire last 1/3 of this episode, we can help connect this all with the bigger picture of Jesus as the ultimate high priest.
Definitely would have been at forefront of their mindset and priorities - very very thought provoking. As it should be. We need to reconsider our own relative devotion to worship.
I love Matthew Gray! I heard him on my cds Lectures on Jesus the Christ. I’ve listened to that cd about 20 times😊. Having that background has given me such good insights on the sacrament. Also gives great insights on why Christ bugged the Jewish leaders so much. Thanks for having all these fantastic scholars week after week! I feel so blessed❤️
Thank YOU for listening, Mary. It's an honor to have you join us.
YOU GUYS ROCK!!!❤️
I loved catching up with this episode and will definitely check out Daniel Smith´s TH-cam Channel.
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This was excellent and I have shared!! Thank you!!
Awesome, thank you!
Thank you so much!!,
You're welcome, friend!
So fascinating to learn all these things. I love this podcast!
Awesome! Thank you!
I am so glad fore the demonstrations. I read and was so confused. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
How did the Temple experience for women work back in that time. We’re women allowed in the Temple? If not what was the process for sacrifice for them?
Great question as they had need to be purified every month. (And every nine months😉)
Dr Grey touches on the fact that Joseph Smith instigated inclusion of women, if I interpreted correctly. In this episode, he mentions that. There's so much covered, I find myself needing to relisten to sections in order to truly listen.
Happy listening, friends!
Good question, I’m sure they participated just like other people from different Tribes. We will get to the story of Hannah who went yearly to the temple with her husband, its not explained which part of the tabernacle they were allowed to be in but it says that she was praying for a Son when the Priest Eli noticed and spoke to her. I’m looking forward to that Podcast 😍
Years ago, in a teaching class, the instructor indicated that the more senses you could engage in the learning process, the more powerful learning retention was created. Our brains were designed to learn and recall through our senses. Learning about the sensory experience of ancient temple worship, really displays the omniscience of a loving God who wants to teach and draw His children to His presence. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and perspective.
So glad you enjoyed it, Lori!
Thank you, this was great, I felt like I was able to appreciate the nuances and sensory feel of the tabernacle for the first time, you put me in there alongside the temple goers, experiencing some of what they did..
And the added bonus of further contextual understanding and appreciation of John the Baptists priestly lineage... And the context of the ripping of the temple veil...priceless... Thanks again...
You're so welcome, Anna!
I mean, it's nice to keep in mind what Jews might "only" have been getting out of the Mosaic temple rituals, if it's for purposes now of appreciating our Judaic fellowmen?...but that's one big thing the Book of Mormon is teaching, through multiple teachers and centuries...that everything about the Law of Moses and the performances and ordinances pointed to Christ...that the Lord gave all of this to point the people to Him, and it was just the continued misunderstanding, and looking beyond the mark, etc., of the people to whom the law was given, that prevented them from seeing Christ and having everything about the temple teach them about the Great High Priest and His Atonement, etc. I kind of wonder why exactly Dr. Grey is trying so hard to walk back any encouragement for us to go ahead and see all of this as relating exactly to Christ and everything about Him and His relationship with us, and what He intends as many of God's children as are willing, to become? That's what Jacob, with his understanding of the Mosaic law, in Jacob 1 and 4, having seen Christ himself, and I suppose having priesthood authority among the Nephites and really understanding his calling, was desperately trying to invite and encourage and teach his people and us--he mentions how Israel just never really got it, but he asks, why not attain to a perfect knowledge of Christ? If we're going to get into Hebrews so much too, Hebrews is a book known for using words like "approach boldly"....We don't need to walk anything back. That's what the Israelites did in Exodus...start to see what it might mean for them to really learn about God or really become like Him, and they immediately started walking everything back. God would like anyone to become like Jacob or Isaiah, and really associate His creations and plans with Him and His attributes and goals, as Moses 6 mentions; there He says, everything is created to bear record of and typify Him. Just because previous peoples, to whom the symbolism was given, might not have really realized everything the Lord meant for them to have, doesn't mean we need to miss out on it.
My take is that Dr Grey is NOT steering us away from Christ but asking us to approach this sacred literature as we would any serious study of a text. The objective is to allow the text to help us see differently than before. Suspend our preconceived notions temporarily in order to invest in another's experience (ie, ancient Israelites) and therefore expand our own abilities to see God's messages in everything.
Again, if the Jews themselves overlooked their Messiah, why wouldn't we want to increase our empathy and grasp of their shortsightedness? If our objective is to help bridge gaps, reconcile differences, and bring others to the true God of Israel- why wouldn't we want to 'get in their heads' by means of understanding their paradigm? Then, as Dr Grey said during the entire last 1/3 of this episode, we can help connect this all with the bigger picture of Jesus as the ultimate high priest.
How could the enormity of Israel be able to sacrifice est 150,000 animals in the season thereof?
Definitely would have been at forefront of their mindset and priorities - very very thought provoking. As it should be. We need to reconsider our own relative devotion to worship.