Thank you for covering this. This is something that newbies like me need to learn and understand. So, it's good that you help us learn how to transition from Windows to Linux. And, knowing how to get the software that we'll use, is so very important. Because we just don't have the experience that you have. So, it's helpful you share your learning in this domain.
Everyone else in the industry is shifting towards package managers that are part of the operating system. Linux has this since the 90s, in keeps inventing new and new way to get around package managers
Thanks DistroTube. I will be tryin this out in q4OS which is debian 11 and the trinity desktop. Looks like a great addition along with the nala package.
OSS Code/VSCodium are true opensource versions of code; the MS VSCode is slightly proprietary but has a great deal of opensource in it otherwise the OSS versions wouldn't exist as they do currently. Don't be afraid there are legal OSS versions. The OSS Code editor is also available for FreeBSD now too (finally). Will be checking out the Deb-get tool as I'm messing with Bullseye right now and it is running very well on my hardware. Thnx for the share!
@@CjqNslXUcM Really? The OSS components aren't OSS then? Proprietary software linking with OSS negates the original OSS license? You need to read up on licensing before you preach. The derivatives for which I discussed OSS Code and Codium are fully opensource and derived from VSCode where the only proprietary elements are MS specific using linking. Better lay off the google translate or learn how to read as I simply stated there were several opensource alternatives to MS based distributions of code bud. Save the interjections, bait & troll crap and grow up you don't own everyone else or their work proprietary or opensource - you're entitled brat. Grow up.
@@zack3g Exactly. All proprietary elements were removed. There is an extension manager for it as well with all tracking and telemetry stuff removed, but is a separate install. It operates just like the proprietary version with an extension manager - it's the total package.
I've been using Linux Mint for a long time now, I love it. For the most part, older packages are not too bad, but there is the odd thing that I have to go and manually download and install if I need the latest version though.
12:35 second to last rule: if there are on the regular repos: won't be on deb-get. So it doesn't solve what you want. If you want newer software, you would have to 1) go and manually download newer .deb files if available and not incompatible with current dependencies versions on your system/repos; 2) run different ("system independent") packaging formats like flatpaks/appimages or 3) change your linux distribution for something that runs newer software such as Fedora or entirely rolling release distros like Arch/Arco/Endeavour/Manjaro.
Or just install the nix package manager. It has the newest package and very stable as it contains all the dependencies that the software was made with seperately. Nix package manager doesn't conflict with your distro's package manager at all. Plus, using home-manager would be recommended as updating packages with it is easier and doesn't take too much RAM like nix-env.
@@rishirajsaikia1323 It's the same as appending another repo. You can install yet another package manager or you can append yet another repo. Not really matters.
All of these package managers are just going in circles. Snap/flatpak is the future for anything other than low level stuff. They are improving startup performance everyday.
You mean that horrible future where an update of a package will broke it because of some missing library? Had the situation last month. Just installed .deb from the official site and the issue has gone.
@@MaxusR lol, you are seriously going to frame it like dependency issues are more prevalent in these solutions because it has happened. Get real. That’s one problem these are helping to solve. Dependencies are MUCH easier to deal with in snaps and flatpaks.
Now I'm using 'Garuda Linux Dragonized', the software is update, have AUR support, Setup Assistant for auto-install popular apps like Libre Office, Audacity. The default skin is beautiful and modern, but if changing skin get a little confused with changes to icons.
O man,Thanks! I already several years search on web some debs and it depends of the luck, now will be much more safer and easy. Some people so much advertise arch_distros but manjaro always drop after some upgrades and endeavour is not what for daily use.
@@aundefined Hey, Pacstall creator here. Pacstall supports `-deb` packages along with `-git`, `-bin`, `-app`, and no-suffix Pacscripts. deb-get only supports what we would consider `-deb` Pacscripts Along with that, if you want to add a package to deb-get, the *entire* script has to be updated, as all the packages are declared in functions in the executable, meaning if you want a new package, you have to update the executable.
I installed VirtualBox on Linux Mint Mate 21 uasing get-deb. The install worked, VirtualBox runs just fine. The only problem is that VirtualBox was not added to the MintMenu.
Dose not work on LMDE. Error: Linux Mint Elsie is not supported because it is not derived from a supported Debian or Ubuntu release. Oh the irony. Linux Mint "Debian Edition" is not supported...
TBH deb-get sounds better than AUR. It might finally make me move to debian based distros, as package management (at least as upstream goes) was what made me not consider it at the first place.
Was really hoping this would do something new and search other repositories dynamically rather than have predefined locations.. oh well. A question: sometimes packages have library dependencies from the core repo which are needed, would this cover every dependency for any version of debian distro?
From the looks of it, probably not. It seems as though it requires the person or organization that submits the PR to think of these things and they might or might not, but someone would have to double check they didn't omit anything.
The .deb file contains dependency information. If the maintainer or publisher of the software claims that the .deb can be installed on any Debian or Ubuntu based distro, it should work. Also the .deb could pull in the required dependencies if the deb-get script checks for that. I do wonder about versioning and backwards compatibility. Does deb-get indicate if older distros (such as Ubuntu 18.04 or Debian 9 for example) are still supported by each installer script?
@@ChristianWagner888 Since it just uses apt-get, if the dependencies that you need for that particular program are in the official repositories, then yes, that is true. It's when they aren't that you have to hope they didn't omit them. Hopefully a rare circumstance, but I'd double check it to be sure.
Does anyone have a Creative Sound card connected to a Logitech z906 using DTS or Dolby 5.1 via optical cable. I’ve tried anything and can’t get to work properly. I have sound of course, but not real DTS 5.1.
Hey DT. Sorry for my English. I have 2 questions. 1. Can you demonstrate the stable operation of language layouts, in particular ANSI-1251 (Russian). My colleagues and I use more than 4 language packs and always SUFFER. 2. Advise the average between (Gnome, KDE) and (Tiling window managers). What do you think about LXQt, xfce, etc.
I use Discord and sometimes when they push a download only release I have to wait for it to show in the Arch repos or I guess id have to try and compile it myself because all they offer when you chose to download the update is a .deb file :(. I was excited for a minute as I thought maybe this might work on other distros as well. Someone had told me about some kinda program that installed .deb packages on Arch but it was rather buggy and a kinda hit and miss thing. Maybe you can try some of those out. Save us lazy people from trying to compile stuff lol.
@@zocker1600 Then where is the Arch version coming from? Every time they push a update that requires reinstall it tries to force me to download a .deb file.
4:24 that might change soon, Debian is discussing including non free firmware and packages in the standard iso, so I’d assume the would go for the repos too
the whole reason theyre discussing that is because its necessary for people to run their systems. as for the repos, debian has a nonfree repo that is disabled out of the box
qtwebengine on which Chrom* browsers are based is Open Source. Chromium browser uses qtwebengine and is also Open Source. Chrome browser is based on Chromium browser but contains proprietary software - some of it related to DRM. Brave is based on Chromium (not Chrome) and is also Open Source, as you said.
Isn't all this a security risk? Downloading used to be easy and quick with Synaptic. All the packages in one place. Now it's getting kind of dicey and more like Windows.
Will deb-get upgrade .debs that I've installed in the past? I'm gonna try it. Also, it's painful and makes me cry that GitHub is owned by Microsoft now.
Outside of the video's topic. Brave maybe is very popular, but it's based on chromium. And yeah, obviously it's working better than Mozilla's browser, but I'll stick to Firefox and not feed Google's monopoly.
Technically, Ubuntu is based off of a snapshot of Debian Testing. Not Debian Stable.
Thank you for covering this. This is something that newbies like me need to learn and understand. So, it's good that you help us learn how to transition from Windows to Linux. And, knowing how to get the software that we'll use, is so very important. Because we just don't have the experience that you have. So, it's helpful you share your learning in this domain.
Everyone else in the industry is shifting towards package managers that are part of the operating system.
Linux has this since the 90s, in keeps inventing new and new way to get around package managers
Snap is horrible because of intense compression they once chose
Thanks DistroTube. I will be tryin this out in q4OS which is debian 11 and the trinity desktop. Looks like a great addition along with the nala package.
OSS Code/VSCodium are true opensource versions of code; the MS VSCode is slightly proprietary but has a great deal of opensource in it otherwise the OSS versions wouldn't exist as they do currently. Don't be afraid there are legal OSS versions. The OSS Code editor is also available for FreeBSD now too (finally). Will be checking out the Deb-get tool as I'm messing with Bullseye right now and it is running very well on my hardware. Thnx for the share!
There is no such thing as slightly proprietary, that's like saying: 99% of this drink is not poison, here you go!
@@CjqNslXUcM Really? The OSS components aren't OSS then? Proprietary software linking with OSS negates the original OSS license? You need to read up on licensing before you preach. The derivatives for which I discussed OSS Code and Codium are fully opensource and derived from VSCode where the only proprietary elements are MS specific using linking. Better lay off the google translate or learn how to read as I simply stated there were several opensource alternatives to MS based distributions of code bud. Save the interjections, bait & troll crap and grow up you don't own everyone else or their work proprietary or opensource - you're entitled brat. Grow up.
@@zack3g Exactly. All proprietary elements were removed. There is an extension manager for it as well with all tracking and telemetry stuff removed, but is a separate install. It operates just like the proprietary version with an extension manager - it's the total package.
This looks like some kind of AUR for Debian based distros which is pretty cool
DUR 👀
Now we need F U R for rpm distros
@@therealb888 As a proud member of furry community I approve
How is this different that installing .deb package? I am new to Debian. In Arch, I use Paru or make pkg si
I've been using Linux Mint for a long time now, I love it. For the most part, older packages are not too bad, but there is the odd thing that I have to go and manually download and install if I need the latest version though.
12:35 second to last rule: if there are on the regular repos: won't be on deb-get. So it doesn't solve what you want.
If you want newer software, you would have to 1) go and manually download newer .deb files if available and not incompatible with current dependencies versions on your system/repos; 2) run different ("system independent") packaging formats like flatpaks/appimages or 3) change your linux distribution for something that runs newer software such as Fedora or entirely rolling release distros like Arch/Arco/Endeavour/Manjaro.
Works ok, instead of 4 commands in terminal you put one and install.
Cool info got it installed on Linux Mint and it works well
thats great for us debian users!
all two of you
@@simpan197 You wish. There's a lot of Debian users.
@@TheBlueThird smh
is a joke
Segzual debian
Or just install the nix package manager. It has the newest package and very stable as it contains all the dependencies that the software was made with seperately. Nix package manager doesn't conflict with your distro's package manager at all. Plus, using home-manager would be recommended as updating packages with it is easier and doesn't take too much RAM like nix-env.
commenting for better reach.
Or maybe the community should just append it all into apt and make it possible to install anything you'll ever need with single common utility?
@@MaxusR Most GNU/Linux distributions cannot ship proprietary software even if it's free. That's why other software package sources are necessary.
@@rishirajsaikia1323 It's the same as appending another repo. You can install yet another package manager or you can append yet another repo. Not really matters.
Great video Derek and nice Jurassic park cup.
All of these package managers are just going in circles. Snap/flatpak is the future for anything other than low level stuff. They are improving startup performance everyday.
For anything security related Snap, For other software it's just to slow.
@@mrkitty777 runtime perf is the same. Startup needs more work, but improving.
You mean that horrible future where an update of a package will broke it because of some missing library? Had the situation last month. Just installed .deb from the official site and the issue has gone.
@@MaxusR lol, you are seriously going to frame it like dependency issues are more prevalent in these solutions because it has happened. Get real. That’s one problem these are helping to solve. Dependencies are MUCH easier to deal with in snaps and flatpaks.
Great job done for Debian community by "deb get" thank you very much.
Thanks for mentioning this. I can switch away from some flattpak installs
This in combination with Nala would be great!
great stuff! thanks DT!
8:01 There is VSCodium.
Now I'm using 'Garuda Linux Dragonized', the software is update, have AUR support, Setup Assistant for auto-install popular apps like Libre Office, Audacity. The default skin is beautiful and modern, but if changing skin get a little confused with changes to icons.
Ubuntu LTS isn't based on debian stable
If software is hardcoded as funcs in the bash script, do you need to update deb-get to add new software options?
A Truly Deb-lectable Utility
Thanks for this. Important stuff.
Great work 🥳 Thank youuuu 💜
O man,Thanks! I already several years search on web some debs and it depends of the luck, now will be much more safer and easy. Some people so much advertise arch_distros but manjaro always drop after some upgrades and endeavour is not what for daily use.
I'm going to have to install this, ta! 👍
please do a video about apparmor and firejail 🙏
will not work with sid on my computer.
It would be quite a joke if the installation of this package only adds the alias deb-get as apt-get.
Why use this? we already have pacscripts.
I'm super curious about what deb-get offers more than pacscripts.
I just switched from manjaro to ubuntu and really miss the aur
@@aundefined Hey, Pacstall creator here. Pacstall supports `-deb` packages along with `-git`, `-bin`, `-app`, and no-suffix Pacscripts. deb-get only supports what we would consider `-deb` Pacscripts
Along with that, if you want to add a package to deb-get, the *entire* script has to be updated, as all the packages are declared in functions in the executable, meaning if you want a new package, you have to update the executable.
hey dt, how are you doing?
I installed VirtualBox on Linux Mint Mate 21 uasing get-deb. The install worked, VirtualBox runs just fine. The only problem is that VirtualBox was not added to the MintMenu.
You'll have to make your own .desktop file.
@@patpopov I can also just edit the MintMenu and add it there. That isn't the point, which is that deb-get doesn't do it.
I would rather choose VS Codium than the base VS Code because of the telemetry issue.
Count me in
Pihole and adguard exist. Also, read bigpod's comment.
this like best idea and best execution i have seen in a while..
bad thing i just switched to arch....
Dose not work on LMDE. Error: Linux Mint Elsie is not supported because it is not derived from a supported Debian or Ubuntu release. Oh the irony. Linux Mint "Debian Edition" is not supported...
I think you can simply double click on the deb file in ubuntu and it opens in the software center.
TBH deb-get sounds better than AUR. It might finally make me move to debian based distros, as package management (at least as upstream goes) was what made me not consider it at the first place.
Frickin sweet!
Excellent!
Was really hoping this would do something new and search other repositories dynamically rather than have predefined locations.. oh well. A question: sometimes packages have library dependencies from the core repo which are needed, would this cover every dependency for any version of debian distro?
From the looks of it, probably not. It seems as though it requires the person or organization that submits the PR to think of these things and they might or might not, but someone would have to double check they didn't omit anything.
The .deb file contains dependency information. If the maintainer or publisher of the software claims that the .deb can be installed on any Debian or Ubuntu based distro, it should work. Also the .deb could pull in the required dependencies if the deb-get script checks for that.
I do wonder about versioning and backwards compatibility. Does deb-get indicate if older distros (such as Ubuntu 18.04 or Debian 9 for example) are still supported by each installer script?
@@ChristianWagner888 Since it just uses apt-get, if the dependencies that you need for that particular program are in the official repositories, then yes, that is true. It's when they aren't that you have to hope they didn't omit them. Hopefully a rare circumstance, but I'd double check it to be sure.
Does anyone have a Creative Sound card connected to a Logitech z906 using DTS or Dolby 5.1 via optical cable. I’ve tried anything and can’t get to work properly. I have sound of course, but not real DTS 5.1.
Hey, awesome work! Can you make some video about T2S in Linux?
debian sid is awesome
codium is also in the list :)
You can use nix for that!
Thanks for sharing.
so apparently Linux mint debian edition is not supported
I tried:
ERROR! Linux Mint Elsie is not supported because it is not derived from a supported Debian or Ubuntu release.
Good video.
APT already has the ability to use third-party repos through the "add-apt-repository" command.
I'm curious what the difference is between deb get and add-apt-repository
@@frankhuurman3955 That's a good question. It's about direct download, dependencies etc
Hey DT. Sorry for my English.
I have 2 questions.
1. Can you demonstrate the stable operation of language layouts, in particular ANSI-1251 (Russian). My colleagues and I use more than 4 language packs and always SUFFER.
2. Advise the average between (Gnome, KDE) and (Tiling window managers). What do you think about LXQt, xfce, etc.
hello
hi
Greetings
Hola
Namaste
Bonjour
codium is the chosen 1
I use Discord and sometimes when they push a download only release I have to wait for it to show in the Arch repos or I guess id have to try and compile it myself because all they offer when you chose to download the update is a .deb file :(. I was excited for a minute as I thought maybe this might work on other distros as well. Someone had told me about some kinda program that installed .deb packages on Arch but it was rather buggy and a kinda hit and miss thing. Maybe you can try some of those out. Save us lazy people from trying to compile stuff lol.
you cannot compile Discord, because it is not open source
@@zocker1600 Then where is the Arch version coming from? Every time they push a update that requires reinstall it tries to force me to download a .deb file.
@@Jennifer_Prentice the Arch version is repackaging the official .deb file.
Discord offers you a deb file, because they officially only support Ubuntu
4:24 that might change soon, Debian is discussing including non free firmware and packages in the standard iso, so I’d assume the would go for the repos too
the whole reason theyre discussing that is because its necessary for people to run their systems. as for the repos, debian has a nonfree repo that is disabled out of the box
Vs codium in on deb get!
Question: how can the Brave browser be FOSS when it's based on Chrome? Or, isn't it?
qtwebengine on which Chrom* browsers are based is Open Source.
Chromium browser uses qtwebengine and is also Open Source.
Chrome browser is based on Chromium browser but contains proprietary software - some of it related to DRM.
Brave is based on Chromium (not Chrome) and is also Open Source, as you said.
It's based on chromium, not chrome.
Today I tried VSCodium but it seems impossible to get C++ syntax highlighting on it. Darn you, Microsoft!
I would try NIX first
Nice.
Just don't use Ubuntu desktop i think
Can you help?
Hi... great video however I tried and it says Kali not supported
😂👌 👍
Just use *nix*
Vscodium
They are really trying to make wsl mainstream huh?
Isn't all this a security risk? Downloading used to be easy and quick with Synaptic. All the packages in one place. Now it's getting kind of dicey and more like Windows.
Nix package manager
Will deb-get upgrade .debs that I've installed in the past? I'm gonna try it. Also, it's painful and makes me cry that GitHub is owned by Microsoft now.
cmon codium !!
ubuntu is garbage
Outside of the video's topic. Brave maybe is very popular, but it's based on chromium. And yeah, obviously it's working better than Mozilla's browser, but I'll stick to Firefox and not feed Google's monopoly.
I wasn't trying to be smart. I was just saying. I know that it's obvious for almost everyone, that Brave is based on chromium.
nixpkg is better imo
Deb get GVDT.
debian sid is awesome