p a s - He was doing the super technical stuff, the kind of thing taken to a new level by the Marco Minnemans and Thomas Lang types but he was doing it way back in the 60s. Colosseum never made it big in the US so he never became as famous as drummers like Bonham or Baker, but he was amazing and years ahead of his time with his technique.
Jon Hisemen is my favorite drummer of ALL TIME - and I grew up with music in the 60s and 70s listening to the absolute greatest drummers. No disrespect to Paice/Bonham(Dad AND son)/Powell/Appice(both of them)/Palmer/Bruford/ Moon/Tony Williams/Lifeson and a few other fantastic drummers but Jon Hisemen was ALWAYS my favorite. Terribly under rated and very few people in the USA even know his name. Basically in the same boat as Allan Holdsworth - incredible but mostly unknown.
Loads of great names, and Hiseman is for sure one one of the finest drummers of his generation, but you forgot to mention Bill Ward, one of the very best, and Jaki Leibowitz from Can (did I spell it OK?) who is possibly the greatest I personally think.
With all due respect, and as a personal friend of Jon I have to tell you that you can’t compare him with the likes of Max Roach, Tony Williams, Elvin Jones etc. Those guys played in a league of their own, and even Jon could not have gotten close there.
@@odysseasandroutsos1821 Yes I noticed Bill was often overlooked. I think it was because of their music which was extreme for that time and considered satan's music... Now we can listen to him without prejudices and see how great and very original for a rock drummer he was
Happy Heavenly Birthday to Dick Heckstall-Smith, born on this day in 1934. I followed his career through Graham Bond, John Mayall, and of course Colosseum.
"So here there's the guitarist singing. I think he did sing "elegy" on the LP. Now, the question.. Is there any video where we can see him singing Elegy?. This song is fantastic.
For a moment I thought I heard a vietnan huey chopper coming at the end of the solo!!! Had never heard this drummer before. One of the best!! ever.. RIP..
It's actually an Orange Matamp to be official. Not same circuit as the more popular Oranges to come a couple years later when they had Matamp stop making them for them. I love and own many 70 oranges but this is not a great example of their tone, you need to crank them up more to distort and that is when they get cool
While I'm a huge Chris Farlowe fan, looking back I think both of Colosseum's major line-ups were great. This recording is just a brief interim between lead vocalists James 'Butty' Litherland and Chris Farlowe. Butty wrote four songs for Colosseum (when he was only 20!): Butty's Blues, The Road She Walked Before, Elegy and I Can't Live Without You. Check out Colosseum's first line-up at Montreux 1969: th-cam.com/video/CryvTJ_nsWw/w-d-xo.html
@@Volker_GR I did. First 3 Colosseum albums are absolute masterpieces in my book. James Litherland is great too. But, for instance, Walking In The Park as performed live (with Chris Farlowe) takes another dimension. To my ears anyway :) Alas, Colosseum Live is one of my 3 favourite Live albums of all time.
A band that never seemed to feature on UK TV or radio at the time (to my knowledge). I remember aged 12, seeing a blurry photo of them in the NME and concluding that they were probably an ‘older’ band… Actually, today is really the first time I’ve properly listened to them. I enjoyed it, but with the best will in the world, the singer is more to be credited in the effort, rather than the effect…
They were featured on UK TV, but far less than they deserved. A - somewhat weird - example: They played two songs (a short 'Tanglewood '63' and the very rare 'Upon Tomorrow') at Marty Feldman's Comedy Machine! th-cam.com/video/ZVf20NYtu70/w-d-xo.html . They were heard much more often on BBC Radio: th-cam.com/play/OLAK5uy_mZ3HVenoEE0KWsxK4BGbKO5PDTLhQU4vg.html
Wonder if it is because the key is wrong for him? Clem Clempson singing here, but James Litherland sang on the album version. Chris Farlowe was brought in soon after to allow Clempson to concentrate on guitar.
Fast double bass was done in the 40s by jazz guys. Then in rock in 1966 by Cream drummer ginger baker on the song TOAD from the album Fresh Cream . Hiseman was better tho. Lots of others used double bass in the late 60s early 70s, nothing new. I knew metal first too before I got into jazz and really there is so much in jazz that influenced metal in non obvious ways, this being one thing of many.
It's Dave "Clem" Clempson, who later joined Humble Pie when Frampton left to go solo. Clem also plays on Colosseum Live from 1970; outplaying just about any guitarist around at the time. Check it out - fabulous playing and, not least, unreal tone. Luckily Chris Farlowe joined Colosseum on vocals shortly after this video was made, and luckily I got to see that setup live in Oslo, Norway, on their only international tour. Basically the same setlist as on C Live, but imagine that might live at full volume!
John Hiseman was considered as a replacement for Baker in Cream, too. Baker threw a tantrum and Bruce tried to persuade Clapton to switch to Hiseman, so he says in his autobiography. Obviously it never happened, but after Cream split Jon Hiseman did Jack Bruce’s solo album... Not sure I would say he was Ginger Bakerish, though. Baker was more rhythmical, more of a ‘feel’ player. Jon Hiseman was a super proficient technician.
Tony Reeves on the bass, Barbara Thompson flute (she became 'Lady Saxophone' later, famous and MBE, and had her own band 'Paraphernalia'. Married to drummer Jon Hiseman. She died this year, 2022, four years after her husband..
@@StealthyAssassin007 you're right, it's clem. that date's either wrong or wikipedia's timeline of who was doing what & when is adrift. either way, that's clem.
Colosseum without fantastic Chris Farlowe is a joke. Singer is constantly out of tune. Drummer is OK, but when I want to hear Ginger Baker, I listen to Ginger Baker.
thats strange I didn't hear one bad note! and ive been a musician 25 years. the drummer is ok? could you do better? they were all jazz trained back then, so yeh the resemblance to baker will be apparent since he was the first classic rock drummer to do it in '66 and get the household name. it all comes from the buddy rich, gene Krupa solo pieces from the 50s etc. it is what it is
jon hiseman is such a legend. he will always be one of my favorite drummers of all time. and such a great human.
rip sir.
I never heard of this guy until today but this guy is a machine.
p a s - He was doing the super technical stuff, the kind of thing taken to a new level by the Marco Minnemans and Thomas Lang types but he was doing it way back in the 60s. Colosseum never made it big in the US so he never became as famous as drummers like Bonham or Baker, but he was amazing and years ahead of his time with his technique.
@@SAHBfan i can see this. I'm a Colosseum fan now for sure.
p a s - Check out his wife’s group, too. “Barbara Thompson’s Paraphernalia” - it is jazz and has some incredible playing on it :)
For me too!!
Legend says that the drummer is still doing the solo.
yes, and it's even more astonishing since he passed away 2 years ago
@@igorszamaszow171 Imagine his funeral ;-)
I lol'd.
Mr. Hiseman to you.
Haha that’s what I said about Ginger Bakers Toad at Creams 2005 Reunion concerts at Albert Hall , carrying over from their Goodbye concert of 1968
I was nine years old when I saw this on German television - it has stayed with me ever since
You should be proud. Beat Club videos are an incredible document of the era. The image quality and level of talent is off the charts.
One of the all-time great drummers ☝🏼
Colosseum were a fantastically talented band and it is so good to see this archive footage. Highly recommended.
please never delete this songs..
Jon Hisemen is my favorite drummer of ALL TIME - and I grew up with music in the 60s and 70s listening to the absolute greatest drummers. No disrespect to Paice/Bonham(Dad AND son)/Powell/Appice(both of them)/Palmer/Bruford/ Moon/Tony Williams/Lifeson and a few other fantastic drummers but Jon Hisemen was ALWAYS my favorite. Terribly under rated and very few people in the USA even know his name. Basically in the same boat as Allan Holdsworth - incredible but mostly unknown.
Loads of great names, and Hiseman is for sure one one of the finest drummers of his generation, but you forgot to mention Bill Ward, one of the very best, and Jaki Leibowitz from Can (did I spell it OK?) who is possibly the greatest I personally think.
With all due respect, and as a personal friend of Jon I have to tell you that you can’t compare him with the likes of Max Roach, Tony Williams, Elvin Jones etc.
Those guys played in a league of their own, and even Jon could not have gotten close there.
My favourite will alwys be Bill Ward
@@garethjenkins5922 Jaki Liebezeit
@@odysseasandroutsos1821 Yes I noticed Bill was often overlooked. I think it was because of their music which was extreme for that time and considered satan's music... Now we can listen to him without prejudices and see how great and very original for a rock drummer he was
attended a concert in Modena ( Italy ) in the far away 1970/71.....great band !
Just fantastic much better to what we get now with modern music.
Clem clempson was fantastic with humble pie he and Steve Marriott two lead guitarist the band was great
Absolutely love this music.
I love that organ solo
clempson....great talent gorgeous man....Saw humble pie when i was young great band
A fantastic band, a fantastic drummer. The worst is: I have never seen them live...
Too late now...Hiseman is dead:(
RIP. Great drummer.
I have seen this band (the later lineup) about half a dozen times at least - they were always amazing. Incredibly tight.
Absolutely cringe worthy spinal tap bullshit.
You missed so much
very very good................................................................
Banda Fantástica !!! A frente do seu tempo !!!
O batera dibulha no final
That’s some fairly active double bass drum work too.
The Valentyne Suite lp is the first number of the legendary Vertigo swirl label....... you see a good day from very early in the morning.....
Amo esta, banda
Excelente musica❤️💯
Jon my drum Hero. Clem in guitar also 🎸✌️.
Happy Heavenly Birthday to Dick Heckstall-Smith, born on this day in 1934. I followed his career through Graham Bond, John Mayall, and of course Colosseum.
Clemson was a force of nature
He still is 🙂
@@Volker_GR Colosseum on tour again. Spring 2024. :)
@@tomrott5333What drummer played?
great stuff!
"So here there's the guitarist singing. I think he did sing "elegy" on the LP. Now, the question.. Is there any video where we can see him singing Elegy?.
This song is fantastic.
Великолепны !!!!!!!! Bravo !!!!!!!!!!!!
Never seen Colosseum performing with BOTH Dhs and Bt!
For a moment I thought I heard a vietnan huey chopper coming at the end of the solo!!! Had never heard this drummer before. One of the best!! ever.. RIP..
jon frickin hiseman!!!!
Thank goodness for Chris Farlowe !
I think it needs MORE COWBELL!!! Great drumming.
GR8 VID 💥
By far the best thing about this video is the Orange Amp.
Back in the late 60s early 70s the orange amps were very popular with the prog rockers. They were sheer quality.
This belonged to the Radio Bremen studio and was used by almost every band that appeared at the Beat Club.
It's actually an Orange Matamp to be official. Not same circuit as the more popular Oranges to come a couple years later when they had Matamp stop making them for them. I love and own many 70 oranges but this is not a great example of their tone, you need to crank them up more to distort and that is when they get cool
😢
Best song title of all time!
Love Colosseum, but my favourite on vocal duties is Chris Farlowe!
While I'm a huge Chris Farlowe fan, looking back I think both of Colosseum's major line-ups were great. This recording is just a brief interim between lead vocalists James 'Butty' Litherland and Chris Farlowe. Butty wrote four songs for Colosseum (when he was only 20!): Butty's Blues, The Road She Walked Before, Elegy and I Can't Live Without You. Check out Colosseum's first line-up at Montreux 1969: th-cam.com/video/CryvTJ_nsWw/w-d-xo.html
@@Volker_GR I did. First 3 Colosseum albums are absolute masterpieces in my book. James Litherland is great too. But, for instance, Walking In The Park as performed live (with Chris Farlowe) takes another dimension. To my ears anyway :) Alas, Colosseum Live is one of my 3 favourite Live albums of all time.
@@joaquintakanaka Now we agree 🙂
Oh yessss ❤
@@joaquintakanaka Which ones are the other two?
Colosseum sah in MÜNCHEN... war ein grosses Erlebnis.
Jon was in Rock what Marcus Gilmore is in Jazz now: Everybody thriving to be second.
What happened there - why is Clem singing instead of Chris? Great seeing Barbara and Dick together!
This performance was prior to Chris joining the band
Nice to see Barbara Thompson on flute
😊❤
Chris from atomic rooster!
That's not Chris Farlowe, he came a little later
Terrific track from Valentyne Suite
I wish the organist was given a solo... what’s his name?
Dave greenslade
Oh, of course - as in his band, “Greenslade”!
QUIERO MAS MUSICA
Insane drum solo. He's like Ginger Baker but far more fluid.
A real fine english drummer, probably the best after Mitch Mitchell. I wouldn't say the same of the cameraman, one can't see a damn thing!
A band that never seemed to feature on UK TV or radio at the time (to my knowledge). I remember aged 12, seeing a blurry photo of them in the NME and concluding that they were probably an ‘older’ band…
Actually, today is really the first time I’ve properly listened to them.
I enjoyed it, but with the best will in the world, the singer is more to be credited in the effort, rather than the effect…
They were featured on UK TV, but far less than they deserved. A - somewhat weird - example: They played two songs (a short 'Tanglewood '63' and the very rare 'Upon Tomorrow') at Marty Feldman's Comedy Machine! th-cam.com/video/ZVf20NYtu70/w-d-xo.html . They were heard much more often on BBC Radio: th-cam.com/play/OLAK5uy_mZ3HVenoEE0KWsxK4BGbKO5PDTLhQU4vg.html
Drummer is kicking it. Singer having a tough time staying in key.
Wonder if it is because the key is wrong for him? Clem Clempson singing here, but James Litherland sang on the album version. Chris Farlowe was brought in soon after to allow Clempson to concentrate on guitar.
The lady that is playing the flute.
Is that Barbara Thompson?
I don’t even know that black metal drum parts were invented in 1970s until this moment
Fast double bass was done in the 40s by jazz guys. Then in rock in 1966 by Cream drummer ginger baker on the song TOAD from the album Fresh Cream . Hiseman was better tho. Lots of others used double bass in the late 60s early 70s, nothing new. I knew metal first too before I got into jazz and really there is so much in jazz that influenced metal in non obvious ways, this being one thing of many.
Drums can do that?!
Si, se la batteria è suonata dal leggendario JON HISEMAN ❤💯
Grandi colosseum eccezionali
Where is the lead vocalist?
Clem Clempson was lead vocalist for a short period of time, after James 'Butty' Litherland had left, and before Chris Farlowe joined the band.
@@Volker_GR Butty was pushed to go !!! Very silly decision.
Who is the flutist?
She sure can play the flute!
is that James Litherhead on guitar
It's Dave "Clem" Clempson, who later joined Humble Pie when Frampton left to go solo. Clem also plays on Colosseum Live from 1970; outplaying just about any guitarist around at the time. Check it out - fabulous playing and, not least, unreal tone. Luckily Chris Farlowe joined Colosseum on vocals shortly after this video was made, and luckily I got to see that setup live in Oslo, Norway, on their only international tour. Basically the same setlist as on C Live, but imagine that might live at full volume!
The drummer is very Ginger Bakerish
Jon Hiseman
Whos Ginger Baker?
Jon Hiseman - he actually took over the drum stool from Ginger in the Graham Bond Organisation, not long before they disbanded.
John Hiseman was considered as a replacement for Baker in Cream, too. Baker threw a tantrum and Bruce tried to persuade Clapton to switch to Hiseman, so he says in his autobiography. Obviously it never happened, but after Cream split Jon Hiseman did Jack Bruce’s solo album...
Not sure I would say he was Ginger Bakerish, though. Baker was more rhythmical, more of a ‘feel’ player. Jon Hiseman was a super proficient technician.
hiseman is a magician.
Who is the bass player? Who playes the flute?
Tony Reeves on the bass, Barbara Thompson flute (she became 'Lady Saxophone' later, famous and MBE, and had her own band 'Paraphernalia'. Married to drummer Jon Hiseman. She died this year, 2022, four years after her husband..
@@Volker_GR Danke!
@@Willie.McBride You're welcome!
Who was the singer?
Wikipedia.org
James Litherland
@hightide20 too early for him. it's litherland.
duncan rmi are you sure? Looks a lot like Clem
@@StealthyAssassin007 you're right, it's clem. that date's either wrong or wikipedia's timeline of who was doing what & when is adrift. either way, that's clem.
Great stuff, however, they really needed Chris Farlowe here!
I believe Jack Bruce worked with Jon Hiseman, no? Seems like a good move, a drummer in Baker's league minus the violence.
Who is the lady on flute?
I presume that’s Jon’s wife Barbara Thompson
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Of course, the track is a precognition of AI.
Lotta beats! Not a lotta movement though!
Colosseum without fantastic Chris Farlowe is a joke. Singer is constantly out of tune. Drummer is OK, but when I want to hear Ginger Baker, I listen to Ginger Baker.
Baker...meh...Jon Heisman is badass.
Baker and Hiseman have very different approaches to the kit.
thats strange I didn't hear one bad note! and ive been a musician 25 years. the drummer is ok? could you do better? they were all jazz trained back then, so yeh the resemblance to baker will be apparent since he was the first classic rock drummer to do it in '66 and get the household name. it all comes from the buddy rich, gene Krupa solo pieces from the 50s etc. it is what it is
Ginger...My God !!! The best rock drummer ever....
Very bland !