The technical side of F1 is for me the most exciting, but there are so few videos like this. Excellent video, excellent explanations !! Thank you !!! :)
partially agree just cause the intense drama and rooting for my driver/team is where all the suspense's at for me, but this is definitely the most fascinating video about F1 I have ever seen. Would love to see many more technical demos in regards to aero and other forms of engineering in formula 1, good stuff!
Would be awesome to see a visual explanation just like this video, of for example, an early 90s F1 car, or an early to mid 2000s F1 car with the much simpler front wings.
IMO this is really interesting but could be better produced - give Willem control of the video and a pointer so he can exactly show us what he is talking about and what each part of the aero package is trying to accomplish. Maybe every month during 2018 season let him tell us what each team’s car is doing well or not so well etc. Thanks
Seriously, Craig, buddy... I'm pretty sure I'm talking for everyone here... you're great and all, it's not that we don't like you, it's us. We just feel Willem has more to offer, he's better suited to us than you are... we know there's an audience for you, but for us the viewers, and for you, we want Willem to have as much time as he'd like, to go into as much detail as he'd like... with you not there. It'd be awkward if you stuck around... maybe you could film an intro... from somewhere else. Formula 1 fans are savvy, like real savvy, some of the hoopiest froods I'd like to sass type savvy... and here you are mansplaining things to us like we're 12 years old. Willem gets us, he knows this excites us, and his passion shines through and every time it does *_bewm_* you go and jump in and spoil the mood. We want *details* , no subject is too complex and no video on F1 tech can ever be too long... as long as it's the Willems of the world talking to us with the respect we, and the Willems, deserve. I'm sure you'll find a lovely niche, again, maybe intros done from across town? We'll help with anyway we can in the transition but for now, we'd like some time alone with Willem. Thanks mate, Sincerely, The F1 fans of the world. Post Script: Willem, you're awesome. Please make as many videos as you'd like about F1 aero, you will *_NEVER_* bore us, no matter how long the video or how tiny the detail, you're our boo. Keep up the excellent work, we can't wait to see you again !!! *XOXOXO* 💋
Hi! I'm Rodrigo, I'm a Formula Student Member at Brazil! I have a question that would greatly help me and my team to develop an even better aerodynamic package for our car. What kind of airfoil does f1 teams use? For example, right now I'm studying with CFD the detachment of the boundary layer at the proximity of the trailling edge because I want to select and airfoil that, although doesn't have a huge lift coefficient, doesn't disturb a lot the airflow that passes through it to make more multi-elements more effective. Thank you very much for anyone who can help!
David Baker - it is different to any other racing series in how heavily dependent and sensitive the cars to airflow... while there are downforce cars in a whole host of series (GP2, Formula E, LeMans Prototypes etc), F1 has gone a bit daft in recent years taking aero to such an insane degree that it's actually hurting the sport. Because the cars are so sensitive to 'dirty' (turbulent) air, they can not follow each other closely for any length of time... as they do, the following car loses a *_lot_* of downforce, so they slide around on their tires more, ruining them in just a few laps. GP2 has very simple aero packages that allows the cars to drive nose-to-tail with out the massive problems encountered by F1 cars, which is one of the reasons GP2 is so exciting to watch. The fault is not with the teams, they are just doing everything they can within the rules, it's the FIA that sets the rules. With Ross Braun in charge now, hopefully we'll move away from things like the Y250 and get cars that can actually chase and pass each other often... fingers crossed !!! 🤞
I'm not an aerodynamicist but at a guess I'd say it would cause instability if the air simply fanned out away from the car - sort of dragging/wobbling it off centre making it unstable in a straight line?
It helps to not work against yourself. Air has momentum, so the outside air, if not dealt with, will hit the outside of the front wheel, which will make the job of the inner vortex a lot harder. Think of it as making room to place the wheel wake in with the inner vortex.
Clearly, a wind tunnel helps us to visualise airflow over a car. But, the objective is to improve airflow in the real world. In the real world, the air is more or less stationery, the road is stationery, and it's the car that moves - the inverse of the wind tunnel situation. Definitely different scenarios. May I ask - when using CFD for F1 car design, does the CFD software attempt to mimic the wind tunnel or the real world?
Hi Tristan, don't log on often (once a year maybe) but am on now. These animations are effectively hand drawn but use knowledge from people like me. The F1 teams all have high levels of CFD and use models in wind tunnels. Everything is geared to understanding and improving airflow and performance on the real car in the real world. Each team will have a group of people who's job it is to check and improve correlation between the tools used for development and performance in the real world. Simulations are just that and have limitations - but having said that if you understand the tools you use well, they can be remarkably accurate. To answer fully would take a long time. For more about wind tunnel testing have a look at my TH-cam Video about wind tunnels - also quite good fun... th-cam.com/video/KC0E0wU6inU/w-d-xo.html&t
Do CFD algorithms attempt to model the real world, car moving, air and ground stationery, or do they try to reproduce wind tunnel conditions which are really the inverse of the real world?
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The technical side of F1 is for me the most exciting, but there are so few videos like
this.
Excellent video, excellent explanations !!
Thank you !!! :)
partially agree just cause the intense drama and rooting for my driver/team is where all the suspense's at for me, but this is definitely the most fascinating video about F1 I have ever seen. Would love to see many more technical demos in regards to aero and other forms of engineering in formula 1, good stuff!
Would be awesome to see a visual explanation just like this video, of for example, an early 90s F1 car, or an early to mid 2000s F1 car with the much simpler front wings.
Rottensteam ^^ THIS!!!
such a great simulation, and expert commentating. we want more vids of this kind!
not allowed fenders? no problem, build invisible ones using airflow
this is what gets me excited about formula 1....this is awesome..please make more vids like this...
IMO this is really interesting but could be better produced - give Willem control of the video and a pointer so he can exactly show us what he is talking about and what each part of the aero package is trying to accomplish. Maybe every month during 2018 season let him tell us what each team’s car is doing well or not so well etc. Thanks
I appriate their enthusiasm in explaining. You can see the passion there. Reminds me of my old instructor back in college
Love his enthusiasm at seeing the animation for the first time.
BEST f1 video ever
Excellent video!
omg stop interrupting Willem lol.
friggincanvee .
Came here to say this, lol.
this is extremly intreasting it shows how importent the aerodynamics of an f1 car really is
I love you willem!!!
thank for explanation....great job
more videos, please.
a video with zero dislike!!! wow
and all the comments are doing is complain lmao
they are complaining that they wanted more of it :p
they are complaining that they wanted more of it :p
Seriously, Craig, buddy...
I'm pretty sure I'm talking for everyone here... you're great and all, it's not that we don't like you, it's us. We just feel Willem has more to offer, he's better suited to us than you are... we know there's an audience for you, but for us the viewers, and for you, we want Willem to have as much time as he'd like, to go into as much detail as he'd like... with you not there. It'd be awkward if you stuck around... maybe you could film an intro... from somewhere else.
Formula 1 fans are savvy, like real savvy, some of the hoopiest froods I'd like to sass type savvy... and here you are mansplaining things to us like we're 12 years old. Willem gets us, he knows this excites us, and his passion shines through and every time it does *_bewm_* you go and jump in and spoil the mood. We want *details* , no subject is too complex and no video on F1 tech can ever be too long... as long as it's the Willems of the world talking to us with the respect we, and the Willems, deserve.
I'm sure you'll find a lovely niche, again, maybe intros done from across town? We'll help with anyway we can in the transition but for now, we'd like some time alone with Willem. Thanks mate,
Sincerely,
The F1 fans of the world.
Post Script: Willem, you're awesome. Please make as many videos as you'd like about F1 aero, you will *_NEVER_* bore us, no matter how long the video or how tiny the detail, you're our boo. Keep up the excellent work, we can't wait to see you again !!! *XOXOXO* 💋
You get a thumbs up for knowing where your towel is.
Thank you!!!
Hi! I'm Rodrigo, I'm a Formula Student Member at Brazil! I have a question that would greatly help me and my team to develop an even better aerodynamic package for our car. What kind of airfoil does f1 teams use? For example, right now I'm studying with CFD the detachment of the boundary layer at the proximity of the trailling edge because I want to select and airfoil that, although doesn't have a huge lift coefficient, doesn't disturb a lot the airflow that passes through it to make more multi-elements more effective. Thank you very much for anyone who can help!
Is F1 airflow somehow different to any other airflow then?
David Baker - it is different to any other racing series in how heavily dependent and sensitive the cars to airflow... while there are downforce cars in a whole host of series (GP2, Formula E, LeMans Prototypes etc), F1 has gone a bit daft in recent years taking aero to such an insane degree that it's actually hurting the sport. Because the cars are so sensitive to 'dirty' (turbulent) air, they can not follow each other closely for any length of time... as they do, the following car loses a *_lot_* of downforce, so they slide around on their tires more, ruining them in just a few laps.
GP2 has very simple aero packages that allows the cars to drive nose-to-tail with out the massive problems encountered by F1 cars, which is one of the reasons GP2 is so exciting to watch.
The fault is not with the teams, they are just doing everything they can within the rules, it's the FIA that sets the rules. With Ross Braun in charge now, hopefully we'll move away from things like the Y250 and get cars that can actually chase and pass each other often... fingers crossed !!! 🤞
orion khan
Thank u for your detailed reply!
I have a question- why do we need the top vortex? Wouldn’t the bottom vortex be enough to deflect the wake off the car?
I'm not an aerodynamicist but at a guess I'd say it would cause instability if the air simply fanned out away from the car - sort of dragging/wobbling it off centre making it unstable in a straight line?
It helps to not work against yourself. Air has momentum, so the outside air, if not dealt with, will hit the outside of the front wheel, which will make the job of the inner vortex a lot harder. Think of it as making room to place the wheel wake in with the inner vortex.
Nodding my head *like i understood
I miss the shark fins.
Who's here after Craig's tweet on 8th March 2019?
Did not know Tom Hanks was into F1 until now
I thought that was a Manor looking at the thumbnail lol
Clearly, a wind tunnel helps us to visualise airflow over a car. But, the objective is to improve airflow in the real world. In the real world, the air is more or less stationery, the road is stationery, and it's the car that moves - the inverse of the wind tunnel situation. Definitely different scenarios.
May I ask - when using CFD for F1 car design, does the CFD software attempt to mimic the wind tunnel or the real world?
Hi Tristan, don't log on often (once a year maybe) but am on now. These animations are effectively hand drawn but use knowledge from people like me. The F1 teams all have high levels of CFD and use models in wind tunnels. Everything is geared to understanding and improving airflow and performance on the real car in the real world. Each team will have a group of people who's job it is to check and improve correlation between the tools used for development and performance in the real world. Simulations are just that and have limitations - but having said that if you understand the tools you use well, they can be remarkably accurate. To answer fully would take a long time. For more about wind tunnel testing have a look at my TH-cam Video about wind tunnels - also quite good fun... th-cam.com/video/KC0E0wU6inU/w-d-xo.html&t
@@willemtoet_yt Many thanks, Willem.
Thanks for taking the time to answer Willem.
is that v8 supercars in the background
Yeah, Townsville 400 😜
But I don't think its main game
Do CFD algorithms attempt to model the real world, car moving, air and ground stationery, or do they try to reproduce wind tunnel conditions which are really the inverse of the real world?
Get the air under the car again.
why Mclaren never win explained
F1 used to attract millionaire playboys and blondes bc of it's sex appeal, now it's just a geekfest for geeks and nerds, lost most of its raw and risky nature & replaced it with safe, logical snd rigid one.
All you have to do is look at the crowds at Monaco or Abu Dhabi to see that's not true.