Removing MJ would be so much more interesting. Imagine how much higher guys like Malone, Barkley, Reggie Miller, Clyde the Glide would rank if they had rings. We're probably talking about Clyde as the 2nd best sg after Kobe, Barkley and Malone would be fringe top 10's or just outside of it, Miller might be considered a top 25 guy who's also the goat clutch shooter. Gary Payton was considered one of the goat pg's in the early 2000's before the recent explosion of guards. Imagine if he had a ring.
@@uncannysoup yeah, after he was mostly washed going to the team who just won before. It isn't a ring that raises your legacy like a fmvp in 92 would have.
What the finals would've looked like without Lebrons teams: 2007: Spurs over Pistons 2011: Mavs over Bulls 2012: Celtics over Thunder 2013: Spurs over Pacers 2014: Spurs over Pacers 2015: Warriors over Bulls 2016: Warriors over Raptors 2017: Warriors over Celtics 2018: Warriors over Pacers 2020: Heat over Nuggets New Mvps: 2009: Kobe 2010: Kd 2012: Kd 2013: Carmelo New Fmvps: 2012: Rondo 2013: Duncan 2016: Curry 2020: Butler
As a Raps fan you're telling me we actually get REVENGE on the Warriors in 2019 instead of simply winning when LeBron finally left 😂 I like that Narritave more
@@whats_holden_up nah because he either would have got more help or he would've signed with the Sixers who had cap space. Only reason they won is because he wasn't in the Conference anymore
@@BrothaMan98 but staying with Cavs, he wasn't going to build a roster to beat the Raptors. Toronto was too good at that point. If he signs with Philly then maybe yea he wins
I’d like to know how Lebron’s career would have been different if Detroit was able to get just one spot better in the 03 draft and sign Lebron instead of the biggest bust in history Darko. And they still ended up winning the title
how did he ever have control of the league if he only won 4 times out of 21, and 1 time it was a bubble ceremonial celebration, and one of them he got gifted a Draymond suspension and one of them he got saved by the greatest clutch shot in nba history?
The fact he went to so many regardless of the results showed he had control of the league. Nobody in the entire eastern conference had an opportunity at a ring for 8 years unless he was on the team
Only gets like 3 rings. Bulls = top 2 lowest scoring supporting casts to win championships in NBA history and 6 of the top 10. LeBron can't carry teams where hies teammates don't help him tremendously with scoring. Meanwhile Pippen struggled to averaged 19-20 points a game and averaged 15.7 in 2 of the Bulls finals.
@@ianslee4765 the rewards and standings and playoff results were based on 2Ks simulations. Also the 2003 draft. Other than that obviously i used the same rosters
These Spurs were not loosing the finals versus the Pacers... Also if Durant had won a championship in OKC I don't think that he would have left for Golden State. Spurs would have 6 rings, Kawhi would have left for the Lakers not the Clippers (he didn't want to play with LeBron), meaning that with two injury prone stars in Leonard and Davis they wouldn't have added any titles. Steph would have 5, the Thunder pobably would have ended overpaying for Harden if they had won, trying to repeat and it's likely that KD would have won another title at some point in OKC. LeBron created superteams, the NBA would be way different.
Not much else I could say haha. Obviously a change like that would change every little thong about the NBA. Draft order would be different every season for one Just way too many different ways it can go. So to me, the easiest thing to do is just keep all the rosters the same and see how exactly that would play out with Lebron. If I make decisions on draft order or things you mentioned like harden and kd staying with the thunder, kawhi going to lakers, there’s gonna be other people telling me ‘no that’s not how it would go. It’d be like this’ So just kinda makes most sense to me to do the way I did. I definitely considered allowing everything to change completely though!
Cant lie man, there is no way i’m going to every team and researching how their court looked every year and then going in and manually updating them. I just used the court 2K gave them. Hopefully it’s not too distracting to see the wrong court!
Every single small detail would change with a major player like that no longer existing. Teams records will change just from now winning 1 or 2 extra games versus the cavs for example which means draft orders every single year would be completely different. Those different draftie locations change cap space situations which change free agency situations. There’s an endless amount of small changes and large changes that could happen. So there’s no way for me to predict or choose what “would” happen. Which to me makes the most sense for me to keep the rosters mostly the same just to see the difference that’d be with the teams we all know Whose to say the warriors even have curry or klay or dray if there is no lebron? Warriors could have a completely different pick. Same with other teams. Every single thing as we know it would be subject to change
“The Heat have been nothing but a failure” a prime Wade & Prime Bosh could win the East depending on the year in reality lol that’s how good that miami team would’ve been.. Bron didn’t join a 43 win Heat team lol
I’m just going off what happened in the sim lmao. I’m not making the choices of who does well or who wins. I’m just telling the story of what happened when i simulated it
Warriors vs celtics rematch. I mentioned briefly the warriors played the celtics 2 years i a row (17,18). I apparently didn’t go into enough detail because you weren’t the only person to say that haha
I didn’t dislike this video but i think it would’ve benefited from some creative freedom. You kinda just did all the same things that happened in real life, and I think a lot of the moves that happened irl happen differently without lebron around. KD doesn’t leave to ring chase if he’s already been successful in okc for example, and I think you should’ve came up with some alternate reality moves/storylines for teams
I totally agree things would have played out differently. If you take out any star player literally every small detail changes every single year. Without that star the team is worse which means other teams are beating them more often. Of course that in turn changes up draft order completely come the end of the season. The different draft order gives teams different rookies which also leads to very different cap space situations. Those cap space situations lead to free agency differences. Free agency differences lead to different teammates building relations and trying to play together down the line. You have players making different choices based on the success they may have now had like KD There is literally an endless number of possibilities and outcomes. A change like this would have an enormous domino effect. Nothing as we know it would be the same. So with such a vast number of possibilities I decided to take the route of keeping most of the rosters the same. Simply in order to see which teams, that we all know and remember, can win championships with Lebron halting their chances Regardless of how I did it there would be comments saying I should have done it differently. If I let things differ from our reality there’d be feedback saying it wouldn’t have happened like that and I should have made different free agent moves and trades based on what they believe would have happened. And then the exact opposite as well, some people would have said I shouldn’t have changed anything and should have kept the rosters the same to see how it’d play out I’ve done videos both ways and in each way people suggest I should have done it the other way. I usually find that keeping the rosters more in tact is better received by most viewers so that’s the route I’ve been going the last several uploads. Either way I really appreciate the feedback and hope that you were still able to enjoy the video for what it was!
I mentioned that warriors played the celtics in two finals (17 and 18). So 18 was just a rematch of 17 and golden state won both! In the future i’ll try to make that kind of thing more clear
I kept the rosters pretty much the same as they were IRL. With a major player no longer existing, every single small detail would be changed. Every year draft order would change because records would change after playing the team without their star. Those differences in drafting lead to differences in cap space which completely changes free agency and trades all together A change like removing a player would be a domino effect that would change literally everything. The NBA wouldn’t look anything like what we know. So to me it made more sense to keep most things the same just to see how the teams as we know it played out with lebron. Way too many variables and possibilities for me to do all the guess work of what happens. No matter what I chose there’d be comments saying it would have been something different
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Please can you pin this comment. Love the vids:)
Sure bro ❤️
Overly glazing, LeBron James
Give your life to Jesus
Get some bitches
What would I do without my Glorious King?😭💔
Glaze kyrie next best thing
Weirdo
😢😢
Find a new one
🌭
That Tim Duncan game winner is something he would definitely do in real life
Without a doubt
TIMMY D!!!
You did a good thing for the game of basketball. He was gonna make nba a childish game.
😅
Removing MJ would be so much more interesting. Imagine how much higher guys like Malone, Barkley, Reggie Miller, Clyde the Glide would rank if they had rings. We're probably talking about Clyde as the 2nd best sg after Kobe, Barkley and Malone would be fringe top 10's or just outside of it, Miller might be considered a top 25 guy who's also the goat clutch shooter. Gary Payton was considered one of the goat pg's in the early 2000's before the recent explosion of guards. Imagine if he had a ring.
Should I do mj soon?
You do know the Pacers only played the Bulls in 1998? That Clyde played his whole career in the West had nothing to do with the Bulls.
@@AlanSimulations yes do mj
Clyde has a ring btw
@@uncannysoup yeah, after he was mostly washed going to the team who just won before. It isn't a ring that raises your legacy like a fmvp in 92 would have.
Warriors don’t sign KD in 17 if they never lost to Bron in 16. Raptors never trade for kawhi if lebronto never happens either
Ok
Yea they went to the finals with DeRozan unless Kawhi picked Toronto specifically we wouldn't see them have a championship
How will this affect their legacies? :v
Especially since Durant won a title with OKC
yeah are you stupid @@AlanSimulations
"Mr stark, I don't feel so good" ahh thumbnail😭🙏
Lol
Exactly what the thumbnail was going for!
😂😂😂😂
onb
I wasn’t expecting a Mike korzemba what if type video but I’m all for it
Hope you enjoyed!
honestly didn’t think you disliked the guy THIS much 😳
(joke)
😭😭
Great video. Would love to see one where Jordan never existed or where pippin never came
I actually just recently did no pippen on the bulls!
The editing in this video is amazing good video bro
Thanks so much! Means a lot
you did the lords work . glorifying ghost stats has been atrocious works
😂
“George Hill at the line” insert meme of guy having war flashbacks 😂
Haha cavs😂
😂😂😂
Prob one of the best things that could have happened to the NBA! This clowned ruined the nba
Lmao you’re a fucking nobody. You probably ruined your parent’s lives, but it was too late to abort mission.
Oh wow
your a idiot
☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
That slam dunk by Carter in the clutch 😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂
Matt Barnes taking the last shot to lose game 7 is the most underrated moment lmao
😂
This is like heaven for real basketball fans where dudes play is the deciding factor on how people view them.
Fuck this is an alternate reality I wish I could live in
😂😂
I second that emotion
15:33 Iggy what are you doing 😂😂
Lmfao
Let’s do that with Micheal Jordan and Kobe too. Would be dope
Coming soon bro
What the finals would've looked like without Lebrons teams:
2007: Spurs over Pistons
2011: Mavs over Bulls
2012: Celtics over Thunder
2013: Spurs over Pacers
2014: Spurs over Pacers
2015: Warriors over Bulls
2016: Warriors over Raptors
2017: Warriors over Celtics
2018: Warriors over Pacers
2020: Heat over Nuggets
New Mvps:
2009: Kobe
2010: Kd
2012: Kd
2013: Carmelo
New Fmvps:
2012: Rondo
2013: Duncan
2016: Curry
2020: Butler
W
As a Raps fan you're telling me we actually get REVENGE on the Warriors in 2019 instead of simply winning when LeBron finally left 😂 I like that Narritave more
@@bradenkalke2500 to be fair y'all would've smoked Lebron in 2019 had he stayed in the East anyway
@@whats_holden_up nah because he either would have got more help or he would've signed with the Sixers who had cap space. Only reason they won is because he wasn't in the Conference anymore
@@BrothaMan98 but staying with Cavs, he wasn't going to build a roster to beat the Raptors. Toronto was too good at that point. If he signs with Philly then maybe yea he wins
Mavs should have still won 2011 Nba Finals
Celtics were too much i guess
I’d like to know how Lebron’s career would have been different if Detroit was able to get just one spot better in the 03 draft and sign Lebron instead of the biggest bust in history Darko. And they still ended up winning the title
Good idea
Can you do a Rondo and Chris Paul career swap, in a race to see who would get more rings
W idea
I can’t believe I clicked this video… I don’t even want to THINK about my life without my king
Lmaoo
how did he ever have control of the league if he only won 4 times out of 21, and 1 time it was a bubble ceremonial celebration, and one of them he got gifted a Draymond suspension and one of them he got saved by the greatest clutch shot in nba history?
The fact he went to so many regardless of the results showed he had control of the league. Nobody in the entire eastern conference had an opportunity at a ring for 8 years unless he was on the team
That would’ve been the best thing that’s happened to the NBA
lmaoo
Melo would’ve gone to Miami if LeBron was never a thing
Probably
I believe carmelo should have started out as a small power forward and he was only made a sf because of bron , remember melo was 20 and 10 in college
Yeah i think he woulda molded into a pf role very well. Especially with how good his post game was
What if Tyrese haliburton was drafted by the warriors idea, pls do soon. love your videos always great alan
W idea
You should give Lebron Michael Jordan’s career.
W
Only gets like 3 rings.
Bulls = top 2 lowest scoring supporting casts to win championships in NBA history and 6 of the top 10.
LeBron can't carry teams where hies teammates don't help him tremendously with scoring. Meanwhile Pippen struggled to averaged 19-20 points a game and averaged 15.7 in 2 of the Bulls finals.
without lebron derozan would have a finals appearance
True
I guess in this scenario probably the wizards , pacers , raptors and Knicks would all get rings in the modern era.( raptors an extra ring )
Nah the Wizards still would not get out the 2nd round in this scenario
The wizards never even made it to the conference finals so idk about them lol
Three NBA Championships** and that basketball camp in Florida
lmfao
15:30 why was Iguodala celebrating with the Nuggets
2k glitch lmaoo
Video Idea, What if Brandon Roy was never injured.
Great idea
Wade would’ve been MVP in 08-09 he was the runner up
I went based on what 2K chose. Not who was runner ups
@@AlanSimulations yea so 2k chose to literally make every team exactly the same minus lebron?
@@ianslee4765 the rewards and standings and playoff results were based on 2Ks simulations. Also the 2003 draft. Other than that obviously i used the same rosters
Melo would have went to the heat if Bron didnt
Probably true
My daddy king goat athletic specimen lebron is gone😭
Lmfao
These Spurs were not loosing the finals versus the Pacers... Also if Durant had won a championship in OKC I don't think that he would have left for Golden State. Spurs would have 6 rings, Kawhi would have left for the Lakers not the Clippers (he didn't want to play with LeBron), meaning that with two injury prone stars in Leonard and Davis they wouldn't have added any titles. Steph would have 5, the Thunder pobably would have ended overpaying for Harden if they had won, trying to repeat and it's likely that KD would have won another title at some point in OKC. LeBron created superteams, the NBA would be way different.
Ahh ok
@@AlanSimulations Lol it was the most casual and most unaffected answer, that made me smile.
Not much else I could say haha. Obviously a change like that would change every little thong about the NBA. Draft order would be different every season for one
Just way too many different ways it can go. So to me, the easiest thing to do is just keep all the rosters the same and see how exactly that would play out with Lebron. If I make decisions on draft order or things you mentioned like harden and kd staying with the thunder, kawhi going to lakers, there’s gonna be other people telling me ‘no that’s not how it would go. It’d be like this’
So just kinda makes most sense to me to do the way I did. I definitely considered allowing everything to change completely though!
Warriors would have like 9 titles but never would've got kd
Idk about 9 titles lmaoo but probably 1 or 2 more
0:29 Incorrect Court.
Cant lie man, there is no way i’m going to every team and researching how their court looked every year and then going in and manually updating them. I just used the court 2K gave them. Hopefully it’s not too distracting to see the wrong court!
LeThanos snapped himself out of existence
😂
Can u do kawhi had pippens???
🤔🤔
is this giuseppe vuitton????
👀👀👀
Dang I thought melo was gonna get a ring in Cleveland
I was hoping he would
Thunders sweeping the Celtics is the most unrealistic thing in this "what if"
Cap
Lmao
But without lebron who is espn gonna glaze nonstop for 20 years?
probably kobe and durant. eventually steph
u are different buddy, your vids are on high level 🙌🏻🙌🏻💯
Thanks so much bro
@@AlanSimulations 👊🏼👊🏼
Remove LeFlop From the NBA and the NBA ratings don't go down.
They probably would
Kawhi on The Pacers he was traded too the spurs on Draft night
🤔🤔
@@AlanSimulations Pop traded him for George Hill on draft night
melo should’ve won rookie of the year that year anyways
I agree ngl
Great video! For the next one I think u should do if Jordan never existed, a lot of legends would probably be champs right now
Good idea!
Noooo not my LePookie bear☹️
This is a W idea tho theres so many more people you could do this with
Thanks
I’m sorry I LOL’d at your comment.
HOW WILL THIS AFFECT HIS LEGACY?! :v
Then he would be a top 10 TE in the NFL history
W bron
The mavericks would have beaten Boston. They swept the defending champions and made it to the finals in a better west
True
Then everyone would prolly have a Kobe V/S Michael GOAT Debate
True
@@AlanSimulationscan j get a shoutout
Kd still exist he could’ve went to the east and took over
Can you do Jokic and Larry Bird career swap? Jokic plays for 80s Celtics and Bird plays for Nuggets late 2010s to present?
Good idea
Wassup with Iggy at the end? 😂
Lmao 2K glitch
Caught this at 23 minutes it was Destiny
Daaaang
KD benefits so much if Lebron wasnt there
Definitely. He’d be the best player in the league for a good stretch of years
I mean... Is Durant joining the warriors if there is no Lebron?
Every single small detail would change with a major player like that no longer existing. Teams records will change just from now winning 1 or 2 extra games versus the cavs for example which means draft orders every single year would be completely different. Those different draftie locations change cap space situations which change free agency situations. There’s an endless amount of small changes and large changes that could happen. So there’s no way for me to predict or choose what “would” happen. Which to me makes the most sense for me to keep the rosters mostly the same just to see the difference that’d be with the teams we all know
Whose to say the warriors even have curry or klay or dray if there is no lebron? Warriors could have a completely different pick. Same with other teams. Every single thing as we know it would be subject to change
The best 2k commentator imo,I v watched most of these episodes and nvr got bored of them🙃
Wow thank you so much man
That thumbnail is hilarious.
Why lol
Ah man the flop compilations just lost 95% of their content
Lmfao
“The Heat have been nothing but a failure” a prime Wade & Prime Bosh could win the East depending on the year in reality lol that’s how good that miami team would’ve been.. Bron didn’t join a 43 win Heat team lol
I’m just going off what happened in the sim lmao. I’m not making the choices of who does well or who wins. I’m just telling the story of what happened when i simulated it
Jokic's Bubble Disney ring don't count.
Ok
jordan fans never clicked a video so fast
Lmaoo
Should have taken Lebron out and see what happens and not just keep the same moves afterwards
Yeah that woulda been cool too
Sooo what happened in 2017-2018??
Lebron came back for 1 season and one roty, dpoy, mvp and he had a 82-0 run and won the finals in a sweep
Warriors vs celtics rematch. I mentioned briefly the warriors played the celtics 2 years i a row (17,18). I apparently didn’t go into enough detail because you weren’t the only person to say that haha
@@AlanSimulations yea 😅😅
Warrior won 4 champ in a row without lebron existence.
Thumbnail is frying me
😭
But then how did Durant get to the Warriors cause I thought it was because LeBron invented Free Agency in 2010?
Lol
if lebron wasnt here who would break the scoring record?
Nobody was close in the vid. Closest was durant
@@AlanSimulationsmakes sense for kd lol
Thank God Gloria didn’t marry a football coach
Lmfao
Can you do what if larry bird and magic johnson
🤔🤔 maybe!
not really a simulation if you have several of the exact same outcomes
What do you mean
I didn’t dislike this video but i think it would’ve benefited from some creative freedom. You kinda just did all the same things that happened in real life, and I think a lot of the moves that happened irl happen differently without lebron around. KD doesn’t leave to ring chase if he’s already been successful in okc for example, and I think you should’ve came up with some alternate reality moves/storylines for teams
I totally agree things would have played out differently. If you take out any star player literally every small detail changes every single year. Without that star the team is worse which means other teams are beating them more often. Of course that in turn changes up draft order completely come the end of the season. The different draft order gives teams different rookies which also leads to very different cap space situations. Those cap space situations lead to free agency differences. Free agency differences lead to different teammates building relations and trying to play together down the line. You have players making different choices based on the success they may have now had like KD
There is literally an endless number of possibilities and outcomes. A change like this would have an enormous domino effect. Nothing as we know it would be the same. So with such a vast number of possibilities I decided to take the route of keeping most of the rosters the same. Simply in order to see which teams, that we all know and remember, can win championships with Lebron halting their chances
Regardless of how I did it there would be comments saying I should have done it differently. If I let things differ from our reality there’d be feedback saying it wouldn’t have happened like that and I should have made different free agent moves and trades based on what they believe would have happened. And then the exact opposite as well, some people would have said I shouldn’t have changed anything and should have kept the rosters the same to see how it’d play out
I’ve done videos both ways and in each way people suggest I should have done it the other way. I usually find that keeping the rosters more in tact is better received by most viewers so that’s the route I’ve been going the last several uploads.
Either way I really appreciate the feedback and hope that you were still able to enjoy the video for what it was!
Demar Derozan might have been the GOAT if not for Lebron
😅😅😅
You could say that about alot of players. Derozan is a great player and so is PG. Lebron is just different
You skipped 2018, but I'm guessing GSW won anyway
I mentioned that warriors played the celtics in two finals (17 and 18). So 18 was just a rematch of 17 and golden state won both!
In the future i’ll try to make that kind of thing more clear
Melo should have be ROTY even with Lebron n the league.
Agree
Oh so the Perkins-Jeff Green trade doesn't happen in this timeline? Interesting.
yet the only player the heat ever add to support wade is bosh?
like dude didnt even try ngl
I kept the rosters pretty much the same as they were IRL. With a major player no longer existing, every single small detail would be changed. Every year draft order would change because records would change after playing the team without their star. Those differences in drafting lead to differences in cap space which completely changes free agency and trades all together
A change like removing a player would be a domino effect that would change literally everything. The NBA wouldn’t look anything like what we know. So to me it made more sense to keep most things the same just to see how the teams as we know it played out with lebron. Way too many variables and possibilities for me to do all the guess work of what happens. No matter what I chose there’d be comments saying it would have been something different
a- a- a- a- a- a- a- a- a- a- a- a- a- life without my glorious one….🙁 (i couldn’t.)
Lmfao
What if AI and Paul Pierce played together
Intersting idea!
@@AlanSimulations just neither one
So Vince Carter DID win a ring? And Jason Kidd
No
Sim Lebron in madden
I am horrendous at madden lmfao
You remove lebron, raptors win 4 chips
I dont think they beat the warriors at all
Why Igoudola was wearing a heat jersey and is celebrating with the nuggets??😭😭
Glitch in 2k lmaoo
and the nba can only be better without leflop/lefraud/letravel james but mostly without lesuperteamneedmorehelp james
Lol
Dwight Howard to the Lakers did nothing?
Correct. Just like in our timeline lol
Why was Iguodala celebrating with the Nuggets when he lost to them lmao
Lmaoo 2k glitch
You should do the same video but with Jordan’s next
🤔🤔🤔
Great vid again! I’m an og XD
Thanks bro! And you are ❤️
Next remove Shaqs sidekick from nba history we never needed two jordans
An nba without kobe?!! 🤯
Would've meant an Iverson chip. I would've lived a happier life
Someone’s mad there both better than bron
Can you make a video build a player base on the tendencies you want and start only having a max potential.
Maybe!
@@AlanSimulations please do it bro! LOL
Well how does this affect lebrons legacy
who?
I was gonna do this last 2k but i never had the next gen xbox, good job on you lol
Thanks
time to erase jordan
Good idea, he should do a bunch of ppl.. this hasn't been done all that often yet
Should he be next? 🤔🤔
erase Jordan to see could Chuck and karl Malone win a champion.
Why inflict injury on D🌹 in this different scenario 😭
Lebron’s existence wouldn’t really have an impact during that moment assuming the bulls and sixers still play in round 1
@@AlanSimulations it's heartbreaking 🥲
But how will this affect Lebrons legacy?
Whose legacy??
I'm so glad you took Melo first
W