Im his biggest fan easily he is my inspiration he just makes most other bass players boring i find it hard to watch other people play because they are so soft with the instrument and my god the amount of people who dont acknowledge him or even know him he is easily the best bass guitarist to ever hold the instrument
John's classic Thunderbird was actually a hybrid called the 'Fenderbird' - a T bird with a P bass neck. I've got a black Vintage Pro. Sounds good. Looks very cool. Finger board's a bit rough. But for the money you can't really go wrong.
The Epi Vintage Pro is an awesome sounding bass. I would take one of those over the Gibson anytime. Better pickups and bridge imo, and the whole vibe is just more true to the T-birds i grew up lusting after. Now that Epiphone have rejigged their T-bird case to actually fit the longer headstock, there's no excuse not to own one and pay the extra hundred quid for the case.
I own one. I love it. I also own the "lesser" Embassy vintage Pro rewired to thunderbird specs and it sounds almost identical. I also own a Thunderbird 5 pro that I had rebuilt by Mike Lull and all chromed like the vintage Pro. I love them all. The 5 string is my main. But of them all. The vintage Pro thunderbird sounds the best.
the epiphone looks more traditional, and authentic to the true design of the Gibson thunderbird then gibson itself, the only thing id do to the epiphone to fool every single "historical" and gibson fanboy out there, is simply put a gibson truss rod cover and throw out the epiphone truss rod cover, and if you really really want to (but you dont have to) lollar makes pickups that replicate the old sound of the gibson thunderbirds with chrome covers
@@billfraser1491 depends tho, i have a classic pro which im happy with but i havnt tried a vintage pro, but ive heard from other that the vintage pro has more neck dive. Many people complain about the classics bridge but ive had no issues, pickups are debatable since its all opinion but i like the deeps sound of my classic pro. Less growl but you can get that with a bit of gain and boosted mids on an amp.
I gigged with an ebony Gibson '76 reissue from '76 on through an Ampeg SVT & 2 SVT cabs(16x10s-later used a V4B cab 2x15s w/ 8 x10s). This bass needs an amp like the SVT, it then truly produces THUNDER, but w/ the versatility of the SVT the piano like highs are also awesome. After I added the folded horn(V4B cab) one bartender at a very large club in Illinois used to tell I wasn't too loud, but, the drink glasses were "dancing" on the bar from the low end! Bass was stolen, along with my 4001 Rickenbacker in the late '70s I now have the bolt on Epi TBird & the Epi Vintage Pro TBird in Ebony along with my other assorted basses. Both are surely giggable with the right amp & a little care. My guitarist played a red 60s Firebird(we both carried backup axes). Good playing on the video, BUT, the amp does NO justice to these excellent basses. Personally, I detest the cheap looking black plastic pups & hardware on the Gibbys of the last few decades, but that's me. The vintage models, both Gibson & Epi, are heavy in the headstock & will do nosedives, but a rearrangement of the strap buttons can help a lot. By the way, the first time I gigged with the cheap bolt on Epi TBird(Yorkville Bassmaster combo) around 2005, a nice looking young woman walked up to me at break & stated "I don't know what kind of bass you're playing, but it sure knows how to vibrate the right places!" 'Nuff said?"
I ordered a Gibson Thunderbird with the Babicz, it'll be arriving on Tuesday. Could you tell me what's the difference between the 3 point and the Babicz as far as intonation/setup? Thanks!
@@SOswim1 I would advise you to look at the babicz website to learn which screw on the saddles lock/unlocks and which adjusts the height. Last thing you want to do is make adjustments then unlock it and potentially cause some damage. Unlock then adjust then lock
Got a Tobacco finish Epiphone Thunderbird from a mate of mines bassist for £140 in 2013. Still have it (Im using it in two different vids on YT). The advantage of his was that he relocated the strap buttons - the back one was moved to the high point of the tail end and the one nearest the neck is through the makers plate that joins neck and body. Result is no more "nodding donkey" when letting it hang free like regular basses...
Congratulations my Friend :) I got mine cheaper, too. Around 1200€ 'cause it was the 2018 Model. I don't regret anything :) When's yours gonna be delivered to you?@@leiruagetro
I own an Epiphone Thunderbird (not the Vintage Pro) and It doesn't sound bad! But I played a Gibson Thunderbird 2019 and it sounds and feels 10x better. (Especially the feel of the action/setup.) Would it be so crazy to buy a Gibson Thunderbird and slap those Epiphone Burstbuckers on it? (That's if I still can't find actual 60's Thunderbird Gibson pick ups.)
I own 2 epi vintage pros. Bought the black one first. I liked it so much I bought the white one! They're a HOOT to play clubs with. The nickel hardware 2 piece claw bridge design sounds better and looks cooler. They're as close as you can get without having to spend over 10 grand for a real one that never leaves your house. Buy one before they stop making them!
I'm so excited cause I'm so close to buying one of these. I adore the design and the sound of it. I'm getting the Epiphone for the better bridge but I can't wait to get it.
I own an alpine white vintage Pro and absolutely love it. It is my backup bass though. *My main bass is an Epi thunderbird 5 pro in trans black that I had Mike Lull chrome out *swap all hardware*, gut the garage actives and toss his pickups, and replace the bridge, it definitely an awesome beast.* After owning the vintage for a while, I went to Sam Ash Vegas and side by side test the both a 2018 gibson vs the vintage and the bolt on epi... The bolt on neck is a different thickness 1.7" nut, 3 point bridge, had some sharp frets, it played OK but was very congested sounding and just was uninspiring. The gibson had the 1.5" nut and extra slim neck, babich bridge, no sharp fret ends, but several nasty flaws in finish. It's set up was garbage but it played OK. It was a little like the bolt on epi, a little less congested, articulate on the lower strings and thumpy but cloudy on top, very very hot pickups but lacking in good definition. The Epi vintage Pro has the same profile neck as the gibson, the 2 piece bridge *made of brass* does help with the upper end clarity. It's not as hot as the gibson, but definitely far more open, growly, rich in harmonics, and takes to overdrive very well. Being the only one to come with chrome hardware, it stands out very well on stage and really gives a great look on stage.
When a video about Chapman Guitars MLB1 Dave Hollingworth Bass with Fanned Frets in Quicksand and the new Chapman Guitars MLB1-5 Pro Bass in Walnut I want to see your opinion on these basses please. Great work!!!
Well the Gibson will always sound a bit better because it’s a “ Gibson “ but for the price I’ll always take the epiphone! The Rd is a beast, would love to hear it with a heavy fuzz distortion behind it!
the RD is cool but such a disgrace compared to the originals. my original one sounds soo much better and more interesting, they just kind of slapped an off the shelf active circuit in the new one. sad
I do wish people would stop this “snake oil” description of finishes (not saying your dishonest, just completely inaccurate. Sorry). Both poly and nitro are completely air and watertight finishes. Neither allow anything to “breathe”. Especially as wood has no lungs! Nitro decays easier and quicker than poly. It’s worth remembering that nitro was specifically created to protect metalwork from rust. It’s just 70 year old technology that’s not that efficient.
you are correct. Gibson nitro sucks a*s holes, I have a 1600 buck guitar with indentation in the finish from a guitar stand to prove it.. anybody who disagrees is stupid or has never owned guitars that they make absurd statements about
no they're not. you can get an EB-Bass or the SG Bass for about 1000 pounds wich is about the same you'd pay for the cheapest American fender bass. Plus they're going to make a DC LP Junior this year for even less than that. I actually Paid 550€ for a new 2013 EB-Bass in an end of line deal. If you consider they give you a Case with that, it's not just not expensive, its actually cheap af. Fender would'nt even sell you a Mexican one for that kind of Money.
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3:20 Krist Novoselic during Nirvana’s 1992 Reading Festival performance.
or Simon Gallup?...
Dudes, John Entwistle played a Thunderbird worn high and with his traditional fingerstyle. How did you miss that one?
dbdevour THE who
@dbdevour A++++
Who? (I'm joking lol)
Im his biggest fan easily he is my inspiration he just makes most other bass players boring i find it hard to watch other people play because they are so soft with the instrument and my god the amount of people who dont acknowledge him or even know him he is easily the best bass guitarist to ever hold the instrument
John's classic Thunderbird was actually a hybrid called the 'Fenderbird' - a T bird with a P bass neck.
I've got a black Vintage Pro. Sounds good. Looks very cool. Finger board's a bit rough. But for the money you can't really go wrong.
I enjoy all about the bass more than any other series on this channel. MORE!!
Same. I don’t watch anything else from Anderton’s.
This is the best and most underrated bass in the world!
The Epi Vintage Pro is an awesome sounding bass. I would take one of those over the Gibson anytime. Better pickups and bridge imo, and the whole vibe is just more true to the T-birds i grew up lusting after. Now that Epiphone have rejigged their T-bird case to actually fit the longer headstock, there's no excuse not to own one and pay the extra hundred quid for the case.
I own one. I love it. I also own the "lesser" Embassy vintage Pro rewired to thunderbird specs and it sounds almost identical. I also own a Thunderbird 5 pro that I had rebuilt by Mike Lull and all chromed like the vintage Pro. I love them all. The 5 string is my main. But of them all. The vintage Pro thunderbird sounds the best.
You: “Well these are AUTHENTIC”
Everybody else: too soon
the epiphone looks more traditional, and authentic to the true design of the Gibson thunderbird then gibson itself, the only thing id do to the epiphone to fool every single "historical" and gibson fanboy out there, is simply put a gibson truss rod cover and throw out the epiphone truss rod cover, and if you really really want to (but you dont have to) lollar makes pickups that replicate the old sound of the gibson thunderbirds with chrome covers
Epi vintage pro is a monster
@bflo1000 Better
@@billfraser1491 depends tho, i have a classic pro which im happy with but i havnt tried a vintage pro, but ive heard from other that the vintage pro has more neck dive. Many people complain about the classics bridge but ive had no issues, pickups are debatable since its all opinion but i like the deeps sound of my classic pro. Less growl but you can get that with a bit of gain and boosted mids on an amp.
Wow! I just found my new bass. Epiphone vintage pro in black. I was thinking Sterling Stingray but after this video I’m saving for the Epi!!
I’m going to try the epiphone vintage and probably buy, based on the sound you got out of it. And it looks killer 👌
Definitely prefer the classic style of the Epiphone. I love me some chrome pickups. It also seems a touch brighter than the Gibson.
I gigged with an ebony Gibson '76 reissue from '76 on through an Ampeg SVT & 2 SVT cabs(16x10s-later used a V4B cab 2x15s w/ 8 x10s). This bass needs an amp like the SVT, it then truly produces THUNDER, but w/ the versatility of the SVT the piano like highs are also awesome. After I added the folded horn(V4B cab) one bartender at a very large club in Illinois used to tell I wasn't too loud, but, the drink glasses were "dancing" on the bar from the low end! Bass was stolen, along with my 4001 Rickenbacker in the late '70s I now have the bolt on Epi TBird & the Epi Vintage Pro TBird in Ebony along with my other assorted basses. Both are surely giggable with the right amp & a little care. My guitarist played a red 60s Firebird(we both carried backup axes). Good playing on the video, BUT, the amp does NO justice to these excellent basses. Personally, I detest the cheap looking black plastic pups & hardware on the Gibbys of the last few decades, but that's me. The vintage models, both Gibson & Epi, are heavy in the headstock & will do nosedives, but a rearrangement of the strap buttons can help a lot. By the way, the first time I gigged with the cheap bolt on Epi TBird(Yorkville Bassmaster combo) around 2005, a nice looking young woman walked up to me at break & stated "I don't know what kind of bass you're playing, but it sure knows how to vibrate the right places!" 'Nuff said?"
I’m a huge Thunderbird fan!! Thanks for the video. Love my Epi Pro!
I've got a gibson thunderbird. The model I have came with the babics bridge. For any epi owners, this is a worthwhile upgrade
It's personal taste, give me a three point, or even better one of the two point bridges (as on the Epi Vintage shown here) any day.
I ordered a Gibson Thunderbird with the Babicz, it'll be arriving on Tuesday. Could you tell me what's the difference between the 3 point and the Babicz as far as intonation/setup? Thanks!
@@SOswim1 I would advise you to look at the babicz website to learn which screw on the saddles lock/unlocks and which adjusts the height. Last thing you want to do is make adjustments then unlock it and potentially cause some damage. Unlock then adjust then lock
My Epi with a Hipshot is fantastic... Gave my Luthier hell tho, truth be told.
Dude playing the Gibson doesn’t let the other guy speak!! Stop butting in
Got a Tobacco finish Epiphone Thunderbird from a mate of mines bassist for £140 in 2013. Still have it (Im using it in two different vids on YT). The advantage of his was that he relocated the strap buttons - the back one was moved to the high point of the tail end and the one nearest the neck is through the makers plate that joins neck and body. Result is no more "nodding donkey" when letting it hang free like regular basses...
I bought one, the 2018 Gibson Model and I have to say: it's an amazing Bass! So much power and what a sound...!
Mauro Bellissimo just ordered a 2018 thunderbird too! I paid close to $1000ish shipped new old stock! That price was too good to pass up
Congratulations my Friend :) I got mine cheaper, too. Around 1200€ 'cause it was the 2018 Model. I don't regret anything :) When's yours gonna be delivered to you?@@leiruagetro
@@MauroBellissimo Hopefully by Wednesday!!!!!! Can't wait!
Great! :)@@leiruagetro
If you look closely, the Vintage Pro actually has 9 ply, not 7. Epiphone missed that
Love my’91 Gibson Tbird … bought it new and put a lot of miles on it..!!
I think the RD body shape will now always be associated with Ghost.
I own an Epiphone Thunderbird (not the Vintage Pro) and It doesn't sound bad! But I played a Gibson Thunderbird 2019 and it sounds and feels 10x better. (Especially the feel of the action/setup.)
Would it be so crazy to buy a Gibson Thunderbird and slap those Epiphone Burstbuckers on it? (That's if I still can't find actual 60's Thunderbird Gibson pick ups.)
Sippatee No, that is totally what you should do. I am going to do exactly that.
Out of interest what did you decide to do?.
i used to have that bass.... miss it already !!!!
I own 2 epi vintage pros. Bought the black one first. I liked it so much I bought the white one! They're a HOOT to play clubs with. The nickel hardware 2 piece claw bridge design sounds better and looks cooler. They're as close as you can get without having to spend over 10 grand for a real one that never leaves your house. Buy one before they stop making them!
RD bass came out in 1977 :) The RD bass was discontinued in 1979, i believe.
I own an 1978 Gibson RD Custom guitar. Love it!
Epiphone for the win. The Gibson is nice but the epiphone really catches up to the Gibson even with the epiphones low price.
I'm so excited cause I'm so close to buying one of these. I adore the design and the sound of it. I'm getting the Epiphone for the better bridge but I can't wait to get it.
great playing and review guys! im a tbird guy so i appreciate seeing this.
sweet jam at the start, not often you here 2 bass rocking out. nice
i prefer the 279 version, it has a unique growl to it, that you dont get with higher end models
I own an alpine white vintage Pro and absolutely love it. It is my backup bass though. *My main bass is an Epi thunderbird 5 pro in trans black that I had Mike Lull chrome out *swap all hardware*, gut the garage actives and toss his pickups, and replace the bridge, it definitely an awesome beast.* After owning the vintage for a while, I went to Sam Ash Vegas and side by side test the both a 2018 gibson vs the vintage and the bolt on epi...
The bolt on neck is a different thickness 1.7" nut, 3 point bridge, had some sharp frets, it played OK but was very congested sounding and just was uninspiring.
The gibson had the 1.5" nut and extra slim neck, babich bridge, no sharp fret ends, but several nasty flaws in finish. It's set up was garbage but it played OK. It was a little like the bolt on epi, a little less congested, articulate on the lower strings and thumpy but cloudy on top, very very hot pickups but lacking in good definition.
The Epi vintage Pro has the same profile neck as the gibson, the 2 piece bridge *made of brass* does help with the upper end clarity. It's not as hot as the gibson, but definitely far more open, growly, rich in harmonics, and takes to overdrive very well. Being the only one to come with chrome hardware, it stands out very well on stage and really gives a great look on stage.
John Entwistle played with this bass and was possibly the best bassist ever.
Liked that Gibson Ltd. !!
Great tones, like the natural color
That orange and Gibson pair up is legendary.
There's nothing that sounds more amazing than a Thunderbird that has the sound that'll make you grow a bunch of hair on your chest
Love the tone. One of my favorites. My absolute favorite will always be the rickenbacker bass tho
can u guys maybe do a video on the MIM and USA fender geddy lee jazz basses? thanks, keep up the great work!
Hi, I've just buy a thunderbird '60, and i' m very happy, but I can't find a right gig bag, have you any suggest?
I always liked Thunderbird 2, Virgil was badass..... oh wait, Thunderbird BASSES, sorry ignore me
Epiphone blows that Gibson out the water!!
That Epi has rock thunder tone for days.
Love the RD Artist
13:07 bass is a task CHECKMATE guitarists
That RD was sweet! Thanks guy's.
Wow! This is awesome! Love it. 👍
Do they count differently across the pond? The VP has a 9 ply neck.
Intro was sick!!!
If you get the Epi Pro Classic T Bird neck thru 9 ply with Gibson pickups
How good was the opening jam!!??
Dagnabbit, you forgot to slap it ^^
Slapping a Thunderbird is heresy
I like the Epiphone's crungey tone, actually
Should of done a vid on Rickenbacker V Gibson Thunderbird in rock plectrum style playing.
The Thunderbird: Still muddy after all these years.
Demos would be more effective if the player manipulated the controls and informed the viewers what tone was being demonstrated.
Hola a todos!! Qué modelo de Epiphone es mejor? Korea, China o Indonesia!??
Not a Gibson person, but I'm surprised by the number of views on this one.
I’m surprised they didn’t mention the Epiphone bridge on these compared to that god awful 3 point on the Gibson.
Bassplayers are a special breed huh
Tried that RD not long ago...gorgeous.
DIG IN!
Jeordie White AKA Twiggy Ramirez
0:03 dude on the left begins to have what appears to be a slight seizure
When a video about Chapman Guitars MLB1 Dave Hollingworth Bass with Fanned Frets in Quicksand and the new Chapman Guitars MLB1-5 Pro Bass in Walnut I want to see your opinion on these basses please. Great work!!!
Well the Gibson will always sound a bit better because it’s a “ Gibson “ but for the price I’ll always take the epiphone! The Rd is a beast, would love to hear it with a heavy fuzz distortion behind it!
My Epi bird classic came with american tb plus pickups, no difference..
Lol is that a spinal tap song?
U guys are amazing. Great sound. Pref Epiphone Vintage sound
Epiphone holds its own.
Didn't the original RD Artists have Moog electronics?
Fuzzdelic indeed
Orange Terror Bass 15w or 500w?
Sadly this has to be one of the poorest Andertons videos in terms of product knowledge :(
The new Terror bass only comes in 500w. I have the original. It's a real beast.
500w. Such a good amp, I traded it in because it was TOO much grit for the bands I play in. Such a good sounding head tho.
"Yeah!"
Gibson sounds waaaaay better.
Krist novaselic used a thunder bird
Well thunderbird won me 👌👌😁😁 in comparison
Gibson bass are so underrated
The quality is big hit or miss and overly priced
Game chap and Bertie?
the RD is cool but such a disgrace compared to the originals.
my original one sounds soo much better and more interesting, they just kind of slapped an off the shelf active circuit in the new one. sad
@Malchik Blue they sort of did with the krist novoselic one.
But discontinued.
But yes a standard rd as a regular product would be good
I do wish people would stop this “snake oil” description of finishes (not saying your dishonest, just completely inaccurate. Sorry). Both poly and nitro are completely air and watertight finishes. Neither allow anything to “breathe”. Especially as wood has no lungs! Nitro decays easier and quicker than poly. It’s worth remembering that nitro was specifically created to protect metalwork from rust. It’s just 70 year old technology that’s not that efficient.
But with lacquer you can repair/polish. Poly you can't..
you are correct.
Gibson nitro sucks a*s holes, I have a 1600 buck guitar with indentation in the finish from a guitar stand to prove it.. anybody who disagrees is stupid or has never owned guitars that they make absurd statements about
@@jrbass62 bullsh*t, have a nitro finish go bad on you from something as simple as a guitar stand or a strap and then holla at me.
This felt like he was giving this dude a job interview
Hi
Juan Valdez, stick to cheap coffee...
RD Artist sounds terrible, nothing like the original
Too mutch talk not enuff play!!!!
I agree - we need a blow by blow approach
Yeah! Too-right!
Gibson are so overpriced for basses!!!
no they're not. you can get an EB-Bass or the SG Bass for about 1000 pounds wich is about the same you'd pay for the cheapest American fender bass. Plus they're going to make a DC LP Junior this year for even less than that. I actually Paid 550€ for a new 2013 EB-Bass in an end of line deal. If you consider they give you a Case with that, it's not just not expensive, its actually cheap af. Fender would'nt even sell you a Mexican one for that kind of Money.
Just look at the 2018 stock. I paid about $1000 shipped new for the Gibson thunderbird bass in tobacco burst
Uriel Ortega that was a bloody bargain! Where did you get that price?
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Dambit I got exited then got into the video and realized it was all about that bass
me too!
what is wrong with you people
666 likes, please dont add more :D
Playing with a pick = done watching immediately.
Ok boomer
@@GabrielAlves-ty5oc weak and unoriginal insult
@@thecolourrose90227 likes to your one on a post that has zero? Seems to have worked