Spherical Geometry in Navigation

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2025
  • Spherical geometry is any geometry occurring on the 2-dimensional surface of a sphere. Even though the axioms for spherical geometry are similar to those of Euclidean geometry, there are some fundamental differences that create unique situations such as triangles with interior angles totaling greater than 180 degrees. Due to the Earth’s spherical nature, spherical geometry is incredibly important in navigational techniques since the shortest distance is no longer what we might consider a “straight” line. In this presentation, we explain the fundamentals of spherical geometry and how it is used in navigation, specifically in modern day air travel.
    Made by: Arvind Arikatla and Rebecca Glowinski

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  • @aljonserna5598
    @aljonserna5598 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Oh my God thank you... This basically destroys flat earthers

    • @marcg1686
      @marcg1686 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Several observations destroy the flat earth.

  • @kartikamarjeet2082
    @kartikamarjeet2082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is what I was looking for to understand spherical geometry triangle. Well explained! Thank you very much!

  • @brettAnichols
    @brettAnichols 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It's like boxing with my brain. I'm not sure who's winning, but I am learning. Thank you!

  • @ndak2313
    @ndak2313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you! It’s helping me figure out the model for Sepharial’s teaching

  • @jorgehidalgo4792
    @jorgehidalgo4792 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you really can explain this topic. Great job!

  • @cmdrtianyilin8107
    @cmdrtianyilin8107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It becomes clearer when you project this on Google Earth.

    • @zenith6427
      @zenith6427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I did the exact same thing

    • @homelesshendrix
      @homelesshendrix 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Google maps, regardless of its visual representation, is a flat plane with no positive curve whatsoever. NASA's Spherical system is completely untenable from a navigational perspective, being as we don't live on a planet.

    • @sissyfus6181
      @sissyfus6181 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@homelesshendrix Who ya kidding?
      You can't navigate and don't know the first thing about it.
      You're embarrassing yourself.

  • @andrey730
    @andrey730 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was interesting video! But what it's missing is an illustration on how straight line what look on a sphere and why it's actually longer.

  • @taladiv3415
    @taladiv3415 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for your nice explanation.

  • @nehalkalita1
    @nehalkalita1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Still, I am doubtful about the example on flight path between Manila, Philippines and Florida, USA.

    • @yupok318
      @yupok318 ปีที่แล้ว

      good it shows you have a functioning brain. One could EASILY place a plane and its attendant circle between W Palm ( Boca has no International airport)and Manila or any other place

    • @AlexFoxthrot
      @AlexFoxthrot 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@yupok318Good, now explain a direct flight between Sydney and Johannesburg. Not a single flatearther has been able to give a valid explanation.

  • @DrEMichaelJones
    @DrEMichaelJones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What would be the best device to measure this in the real world? And fwiw, this is spherical trigonometry not "spherical geometry" as there are no Euclidean straight lines in "spherical geometry."

    • @eMBO_Gaming
      @eMBO_Gaming 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Spherical geometry is a non Euclidean geometry.

    • @DrEMichaelJones
      @DrEMichaelJones 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eMBO_Gaming spherical trigonometry is Euclidean and this is 100% spherical trigonometry as all of the functions require straight lines.

  • @kalamar_from_slovakia
    @kalamar_from_slovakia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still dont understand...
    The curve is already counted in on a flat projection of the earth.. thats why continents and states are distorted. So wouldnt that mean that the shortest path on a flat projection of the earth would be a straight line...

    • @99drums54
      @99drums54 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes and irl it would be curved

  • @Nahulanham
    @Nahulanham 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My understanding that has been that Euclid was doing his geometry on a 2-d plane and that it wasn't until Gauss measured the region around Gottengen in a large survey map, that it was that the differences were discovered between the two.

    • @philippecanepa4509
      @philippecanepa4509 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn’t know that….

    • @homelesshendrix
      @homelesshendrix 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its my understanding Euclid was the Last real Mathematician, and everyone after him violated his 5th postulate, thus creating an imaginary world where parallel lines intersect, and we are now living in a non-Euclidean matrix that is a complete hoax.

  • @markhalpin4377
    @markhalpin4377 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Shortest distance between two points on the surface of a sphere are Two Geodesic Arcs equidistant in lenght and a Mirror image of each other unless the points are 180 degrees apart Antipodes (POLES). Then its one line around the meridan only .(The only real great circle route )....This does not happen in Reality esp with flight routes ......Its Flat

  • @gorf8799
    @gorf8799 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    nice

    • @gorf8799
      @gorf8799 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Easton Klayh AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

  • @Joshua_Bell_
    @Joshua_Bell_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are you able to provide a practical example of this?
    For example, with a theodolite.

  • @joeyhardin5903
    @joeyhardin5903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    did sailors use this in ancient times too

    • @lipikabhar1700
      @lipikabhar1700 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They were more genius than us...

    • @raymondfrye5017
      @raymondfrye5017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes.

    • @mstone-wd7kc
      @mstone-wd7kc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lipikabhar1700 ‘way more genius than us’ ~ actually, not true, but you are making a strong argument…

    • @jherman6132
      @jherman6132 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lipikabhar1700 in Hygiene no but in maths yes

    • @homelesshendrix
      @homelesshendrix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sailors have always used plane geometry, excepting the ones who got lost. the Sea is 'level and longitude lines grow further apart the further south the latitude. Great Circle sailing is a completely bogus application. Earth is not a planet, much less a globe.

  • @krizeussammeynardpalao1622
    @krizeussammeynardpalao1622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Me who understands
    But can not answer

  • @micmaci9343
    @micmaci9343 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:32 that is not true the shortest distance between two two points on a sphere horizontaly layed on the same small cirrcle is that small circle.

  • @theplanetruth
    @theplanetruth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:43- no. Antipodal means opposite feet. And it is as ridiculous as it sounds, just ask Alice.

    • @marcg1686
      @marcg1686 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The term he used was antipodal points.
      'In mathematics, antipodal points of a sphere are those diametrically opposite to each other (the specific qualities of such a definition are that a line drawn from the one to the other passes through the center of the sphere so forms a true diameter).[1]
      This term applies to opposite points on a circle or any n-sphere.'

  • @skurbanvintr0
    @skurbanvintr0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks the earth is flat and round !!

  • @theplanetruth
    @theplanetruth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Since the earth is not a sphere, spherical geometry is begging the question.

    • @Spaz12ism
      @Spaz12ism 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      thats why elliptical trigonometry accounts for that discrepancy.

    • @marcg1686
      @marcg1686 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What are you doing here, Travis?
      Shouldn't you be trying to determine the diameter of your stupid flat earth? Or describe a coordinate system.

    • @everybodylovesballs
      @everybodylovesballs ปีที่แล้ว +12

      All flight planning software uses an ellipsoid (like WGS 84) and a hundred thousand flights per day arrive at their destination. So I'd say that the predictions of spherical/ellipsoidal geometry as it relates to the Earth have been verified literally millions of times.

    • @sissyfus6181
      @sissyfus6181 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Cool, so not only do you come here to announce how dumb you are you are kind enough to give a twofer in only one sentence.
      Well done.

  • @homelesshendrix
    @homelesshendrix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you are actually suggesting planes navigate using spherical geometry and the Great Circle, that flies in the face of reality. Planes use the polar coordinate system, which is cartesian in nature, just with zero at the center point directly under Polaris. Earth is not a planet, to begin with, and certainly all patents for aircraft are based on a fixed plane, i.e. flat earth. So you are lying to yourself and living a total fantasy if you think aircraft follow a curved path of any sort. The path is curved because the maps are curved. Look at the flight path on an Azimuthal Equidistant map and you will see its a strait line over a level plane.

    • @haven216
      @haven216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I hope you realise that the polar coordinate system is 3D and uses spherical coordinates.

    • @TruckerCarlson
      @TruckerCarlson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@haven216 How so? polar coordinates have the north pole at the center of an x,y,z axis with everything in the positive y quadrants above sea level. Spherical and cartesian coordinates are the same things in this sense.

    • @marcg1686
      @marcg1686 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Mindless flattard garbage.
      The distance from Johannesburg to Sydney is 12000km. Direct flights between the two cities are conducted weekly.
      On a moronic flat earth the straight line distance is more than 23000km. There is no commercial aircraft capable of revenue flight across that distance.
      You flattards suck at basic geometry.

    • @duncanmcneill7088
      @duncanmcneill7088 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TruckerCarlson- congratulations, you are 100% incorrect.
      In a three dimensional Polar coordinate system, points are defined by a distance from the origin and two angles from two reference planes (usually orthogonal)
      which is completely different from a Cartesian coordinate system where points are defined by three distances from the origin along three (usually orthogonal) reference planes.

    • @duncanmcneill7088
      @duncanmcneill7088 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      “Planes use the polar coordinate system, which is Cartesian in nature”...
      This is hilarious to anyone who has studied anything more than the most basic geometry.

  • @gottogo8675
    @gottogo8675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wrong

  • @canadianbacon6536
    @canadianbacon6536 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is a lot of imagining

  • @yupok318
    @yupok318 ปีที่แล้ว

    Um it's either a line or it ain't. Calling circles lines is just BS.
    To me this proves that the earth is flat after all and I dont need mental gymnastics to try to show otherwise.

    • @AlexFoxthrot
      @AlexFoxthrot ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Reality is independent on what you are able to grasp or not.

    • @sissyfus6181
      @sissyfus6181 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AlexFoxthrot Good one!

    • @Luis-fc6mn
      @Luis-fc6mn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You are not qualified to have this conversation.

    • @timetraveler7
      @timetraveler7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lines can be curved in math...

    • @hiccupwarrior89
      @hiccupwarrior89 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      they literally are in spherical geometry though