There are way too many variables for this to even draw any conclusions, but I thought it’d be a fun challenge nonetheless!! Do y’all like lighter or heavier bats??
The answer is the heaviest bat you can swing without your swing substantially slowing down. This is because at the same velocity an object with a larger mass will have a larger effect
From a physics standpoint, the velocity of your bat is the biggest contributor to kinetic energy (Energy=1/2*mass*velocity^2), meaning a slightly lighter bat that you can swing faster (because it takes less energy to swing it the same speed as a heavier bat) is more effective than a heavier bat you’re swinging slower. There’s a point of diminishing returns, though, as there will come a point that even if you go lighter with the bat, you realistically cannot swing the bat faster. (I have no clue what I’m talking about)
RESULTS: 12 oz --> 90.9 mph 18 oz --> 96.0 mph 23 oz --> 97.8 mph 27 oz --> 98.9 mph 29 oz --> 98.4 mph 30 oz --> 98.2 mph 31.5 oz --> 98.7 mph 33 oz --> 94.9 mph Based on this, I think it's best to use the 23oz or 27 oz bat. With those you get near peak speed without having to use a heavier bat.
kinetic energy from the bat is what causes the ball to change in speeds, so whatever bat is the heaviest you can swing without substantially slowing down
There are studies on this; the answer is "the heaviest bat you can swing without sacrificing swing speed". Given that you also want good control over the bat, the best choice is probably to go just a bit lighter than that.
The data was roughly linear so i did this I excluded the wood bat's for this test By putting all of the values into a graph it looks roughly linear so we just gotta roll with it and we get a lsrl line of y=87.74510466+0.3879810939*x with an r squared value of 0.824337881 and this tells us that 82.4% of the variation in the data is accounted for (that means the data is pretty good). The equation I stated earlier has a coefficient of 0.3879810939 and this tells us that generally as the bat gets one ounce heavier, the ball will go 0.3879810939mph faster (If you make a confidence interval for the slope of the regression line at 98% confidence you get (0.0524, 0.7235) and this means we can estimate with 98% confidence that there is actually a positive linear trend In conclusion there is a positive trend, bigger bat = faster hit we don't have enough data for more accurate results but this is what I got.
@@landenheine7645 weight distribution, barrel material, and overall design play a huge role in this as well, probably even more than weight alone. Materially speaking, carbon fiber and resin composites, metal alloys, and wood types all have different energy transfer properties, which is why compression / rebound limits are a thing in BBCOR, U-trip, and the like. Regulations have mostly leveled the playing field (no pun intended) between materials at higher levels by limiting barrel rebound, with the barrels generally being dampened to within a given range regardless of material, ostensibly in the name of safely as well as scoring (line drives get dangerous when velos are too high). For example, USSSA bats are meant to be swung by kids who don't have the strength of adults and college players, so the bats can be more 'juiced' as kids can't swing hard enough to take full advantage of the trampoline effect anyway. When an adult swings the same composite USSSA though, they usually get much, much higher velos than they would with the BBCOR version of the same bat in a similar weight, because bat makers have to artificially dampen their BBCORs to pass certification. Something else that hasn't been mentioned is that composite bats usually increase in exit velo as they get worn in, with their max velo being achieved just before they break. Basically, they get more springy the more swings they have on them, so there's a sweet spot between longevity and exit velo that manufacturers are always trying to balance, as some customers might want a bat that's hot out of the wrapper (parents with young kids who don't swing hard enough to break in other composite bats), while others just want something that doesn't ring up their kids' hands that can last a full season without breaking.
I’ve spent so much time researching bats cuz when u get to bbcor, it’s a huge purchase. The weight of ur bat really depends on what type of hitter you are. I am a contact hitter that like to have control over where I hit it so I went with the one piece cat x so I can sit and wait on the ball and still quickly get my hands to the ball to put it fair but push it rather than pull. Consider your approach as a hitter. Hope this helps!!!
i’m playing varsity highschool ball and i’ve always liked using slightly smaller bats than everyone else but that’s mainly because our ace was a d1 commit with some heat so i liked to be able to touch it
The copperhead was the first bat I used in little league about 18 years ago. Forgot about it until this video, brought back so many great memories and flashbacks.
The best bat to swing is the heaviest bat you can while still maintaining optimal bat speed. The idea is the higjest amount of inertia is ideal...transfer as much energy into the ball. Think mass x accelration, so the highest you can get both of those variables
What we learned here is you can only hit a ball as hard as you can hit a ball! In the end the bats didn’t make a huge difference you just maxed out in ur power of hitting a ball!!! Right?
Good example for his own swing, but it’s leaving out pitch velocity, strength, and swing path. The fact that he does better on a lighter bat shows a lot about his swing
You should go heavy to light if you were to do it again. I think fatigue would set in after all the swings building up to the heavier bats. It would be interesting to see that!
From a scientific standpoint, this is not a great test. You could be getting better with each swing or or worse. But what do I know, I only took up to chemistry.
I excluded the wood bat's for this test By putting all of the values into a graph it looks roughly linear so we just gotta roll with it and we get a lsrl line of y=87.74510466+0.3879810939*x with an r squared value of 0.824337881 and this tells us that 82.4% of the variation in the data is accounted for (that means the data is pretty good). The equation I stated earlier has a coefficient of 0.3879810939 and this tells us that generally as the bat gets one ounce heavier, the ball will go 0.3879810939mph faster (If you make a confidence interval for the slope of the regression line at 98% confidence you get (0.0524, 0.7235) and this means we can estimate with 98% confidence that there is actually a positive linear trend In conclusion there is a positive trend, bigger bat = faster hit we don't have enough data for more accurate results but this is what I got.
The answer is the heaviest bat you can control the barrel on and not lose swing speed. It's physics. More mass at the same speed equates to an increased force delivered at impact. However, not all bats are equal. Some are end loaded, meaning more of the bat weight is in the barrel. Others are more "balanced." My son has an Easton ADV 31 drop 8 and 2 Cat 9s, a 32 drop 8 and a 32 drop 5, all are 1 piece alloy bats. The balance point for the ADV is roughly 1 inch closer to the barrel than the CAT 9 drop 8, making the swing feel heavier than the CAT 9 drop 8 even though the CAT 9 is one ounce heavier than the ADV. Our body has a maximum speed it can "swing" a bat at, no matter how light the bat is that is being swung, like a whiffle ball bal. The only way to get a good data set would be to compare different bat weights of the same length bat from the same bat model. But as I said before, physics already tells us that the heaviest bat wins. As is evident to me when my son hits BP and the ball flies 20 plus feet further with his drop 5 vs his drop 8 using the same type of baseball.
My theory is you'll get the most results out of the heaviest bat you can swing the fastest. Any bat too heavy to swing as fast as you can consistently swing will have less speed like the 33oz at the end.
I excluded the wood bat's for this test. By putting all of the values into a graph it looks roughly linear so we just gotta roll with it and we get a lsrl line of y=87.74510466+0.3879810939*x with an r squared value of 0.824337881 and this tells us that 82.4% of the variation in the data is accounted for (that means the data is pretty good). The equation I stated earlier has a coefficient of 0.3879810939 and this tells us that generally as the bat gets one ounce heavier, the ball will go 0.3879810939mph faster (If you make a confidence interval for the slope of the regression line at 98% confidence you get (0.0524, 0.7235) and this means we can estimate with 98% confidence that there is actually a positive linear trend In conclusion there is a positive trend, bigger bat = faster hit we don't have enough data for more accurate results but this is what I got.
I hate to be a stickler here, so I'll suggest working with either a local engineering school or Smarter Everyday crossover, so you can get a more homogeneous testing, but i do like you are trying to help (potential) players make educated decisions
Sorry coach but it all depends on the hitter. It's just math... swing velo and bat weight (actually barrel mass). So a heavier, end-loaded bat will hit harder for a guy strong enough to swing it with high velo, but for a skinny kid who can't then the lighter bat will hit harder.
It seems though that physics play into this and if that T-ball bat was a lot longer and still 12 ounces you’d be able to swing it faster in turn getting a higher exit velocity.
There are way too many variables for this to even draw any conclusions, but I thought it’d be a fun challenge nonetheless!! Do y’all like lighter or heavier bats??
@coachrac how do you hit the ball that hard and find out the ball speed?
@@PotatoRulez trackman or rapsodo they track exit below and distance
Yes. So many variables. One being you hit some with batting gloves and some without.
@@eugeniocoronado6140 yeah cause batting gloves really boost exit velo 🤦🏼♂️
I have to use a drop five and I use a 29 inch
The answer is the heaviest bat you can swing without your swing substantially slowing down. This is because at the same velocity an object with a larger mass will have a larger effect
My rule of thumb: If you think the bat is slightly too heavy, it’s the perfect weight
@@GamerKing50 fr, i swing a bat thats always to heavy, i hit more balls
Coach rac you have helped me so much thanks to you I hit like 15-20 dingers this year
Okkkk buddy. So u don’t count any or watch any film or have any film? If yk it’s between 15-20 how not know the actual number. U don’t have too lie
Stop capping.
Y’all need to chill he’s just supporting the man
@@csorighthere8414we don’t have/watch film for our varsity team
@@csorighthere8414 fr you would remember how many home runs you've hit
From a physics standpoint, the velocity of your bat is the biggest contributor to kinetic energy (Energy=1/2*mass*velocity^2), meaning a slightly lighter bat that you can swing faster (because it takes less energy to swing it the same speed as a heavier bat) is more effective than a heavier bat you’re swinging slower. There’s a point of diminishing returns, though, as there will come a point that even if you go lighter with the bat, you realistically cannot swing the bat faster. (I have no clue what I’m talking about)
RESULTS:
12 oz --> 90.9 mph
18 oz --> 96.0 mph
23 oz --> 97.8 mph
27 oz --> 98.9 mph
29 oz --> 98.4 mph
30 oz --> 98.2 mph
31.5 oz --> 98.7 mph
33 oz --> 94.9 mph
Based on this, I think it's best to use the 23oz or 27 oz bat. With those you get near peak speed without having to use a heavier bat.
Composite or Aluminum bats will typically hit harder just because of the material. But for the most part heavier bats will always hit harder.
kinetic energy from the bat is what causes the ball to change in speeds, so whatever bat is the heaviest you can swing without substantially slowing down
The heaviest you can swing before your swing speed starts dropping noticeable is what hits the hardest
There are studies on this; the answer is "the heaviest bat you can swing without sacrificing swing speed".
Given that you also want good control over the bat, the best choice is probably to go just a bit lighter than that.
The data was roughly linear so i did this
I excluded the wood bat's for this test
By putting all of the values into a graph it looks roughly linear so we just gotta roll with it and we get a lsrl line of y=87.74510466+0.3879810939*x with an r squared value of 0.824337881 and this tells us that 82.4% of the variation in the data is accounted for (that means the data is pretty good). The equation I stated earlier has a coefficient of 0.3879810939 and this tells us that generally as the bat gets one ounce heavier, the ball will go 0.3879810939mph faster
(If you make a confidence interval for the slope of the regression line at 98% confidence you get (0.0524, 0.7235) and this means we can estimate with 98% confidence that there is actually a positive linear trend
In conclusion there is a positive trend, bigger bat = faster hit we don't have enough data for more accurate results but this is what I got.
@@landenheine7645 idk if the maths right but you’re smart as hell for understanding this. Props to you
@@landenheine7645ah, an AP Statistics student it seems
@@landenheine7645 weight distribution, barrel material, and overall design play a huge role in this as well, probably even more than weight alone. Materially speaking, carbon fiber and resin composites, metal alloys, and wood types all have different energy transfer properties, which is why compression / rebound limits are a thing in BBCOR, U-trip, and the like.
Regulations have mostly leveled the playing field (no pun intended) between materials at higher levels by limiting barrel rebound, with the barrels generally being dampened to within a given range regardless of material, ostensibly in the name of safely as well as scoring (line drives get dangerous when velos are too high).
For example, USSSA bats are meant to be swung by kids who don't have the strength of adults and college players, so the bats can be more 'juiced' as kids can't swing hard enough to take full advantage of the trampoline effect anyway. When an adult swings the same composite USSSA though, they usually get much, much higher velos than they would with the BBCOR version of the same bat in a similar weight, because bat makers have to artificially dampen their BBCORs to pass certification.
Something else that hasn't been mentioned is that composite bats usually increase in exit velo as they get worn in, with their max velo being achieved just before they break. Basically, they get more springy the more swings they have on them, so there's a sweet spot between longevity and exit velo that manufacturers are always trying to balance, as some customers might want a bat that's hot out of the wrapper (parents with young kids who don't swing hard enough to break in other composite bats), while others just want something that doesn't ring up their kids' hands that can last a full season without breaking.
@@landenheine7645Idk what you said but props, you are smart🔥
Plot twist: it was actually the Bruce Bolts that hit the hardest
😂
I don’t even play baseball but this guys videos are so entertaining
Now test them all against a 90 mile an hour fastball. That should be interesting!
If he did that the exit velocity would be through the roof!
And the test should be done with the exact force swung (maybe a robot) with each of the bats.
I’ve spent so much time researching bats cuz when u get to bbcor, it’s a huge purchase. The weight of ur bat really depends on what type of hitter you are. I am a contact hitter that like to have control over where I hit it so I went with the one piece cat x so I can sit and wait on the ball and still quickly get my hands to the ball to put it fair but push it rather than pull. Consider your approach as a hitter. Hope this helps!!!
my adopted son Tyquan plays tee ball with that bat and hit 102mph. hes 3 he also has a 40 inch vert and can run a 4.5 40 already
😂
Same with my 2 year old daughter!
He’s hitting harder with a T-Ball bat then I have ever hit 💀
The fact that most people in the MLB use a 34 oz bat when Babe Ruth used a 44 oz bat is crazy!
You are helping my son a lot coachrac thank you
Swing as heavy as you can control is what the older ones use to tell us.
I can only imagine bros exit velocity ona fastball☠️☠️
not that much higher. Probably max of 107mph. upper echelon mlb players have an exit velo of 115-120mph. they are much bigger than him
i’m playing varsity highschool ball and i’ve always liked using slightly smaller bats than everyone else but that’s mainly because our ace was a d1 commit with some heat so i liked to be able to touch it
The copperhead was the first bat I used in little league about 18 years ago. Forgot about it until this video, brought back so many great memories and flashbacks.
The one with the cork in it
You’re very nice to include softball thanks!
I love the way wood sounds... its sound like History...
It’s crazy people can throw as fast as he is hitting
I love watching your videos, can’t wait for more
A lot of hitting is contact and letting the ball do the work, its about comfort people
The one big Al swings
The best bat to swing is the heaviest bat you can while still maintaining optimal bat speed. The idea is the higjest amount of inertia is ideal...transfer as much energy into the ball. Think mass x accelration, so the highest you can get both of those variables
I play baseball and softball so it helps to watch your videos! I watch you every single day and it really does help me improve thank you coach rac.
What we learned here is you can only hit a ball as hard as you can hit a ball!
In the end the bats didn’t make a huge difference you just maxed out in ur power of hitting a ball!!!
Right?
Good example for his own swing, but it’s leaving out pitch velocity, strength, and swing path. The fact that he does better on a lighter bat shows a lot about his swing
id love to see Rac hit a absolute dinger with like a -5 hype fire, maybe a -5 icon or something that would be tight
Your my fav baseball yt
Love you man I love baseball too and I love your work thanks for all you do
I love the 30-32 ounce bats for me, powerful enough to feel it but light enough i csn still hear the air when i swing
As fun as it is to swing a metal bat that weighs nothing, few things are as satisfying as connecting beautifully with a wooden bat.
The inertia of the heavy bat carries it through harder
That jawline hits harder than that 27 ounce bat 🤫🧏♂️
You’re so cool bro much love! I met you in person and you were the nicest guy ever
You should go heavy to light if you were to do it again. I think fatigue would set in after all the swings building up to the heavier bats. It would be interesting to see that!
23 ounce made the best sound I ever heard
Bro the 31.5 sounded like a gunshot 💀
From a scientific standpoint, this is not a great test. You could be getting better with each swing or or worse. But what do I know, I only took up to chemistry.
Its almost like force equals mass times acceleration
Depends on material
Would have been nice to see a list of the results for those who have a hard time with numbers coming at them this fast.
I excluded the wood bat's for this test
By putting all of the values into a graph it looks roughly linear so we just gotta roll with it and we get a lsrl line of y=87.74510466+0.3879810939*x with an r squared value of 0.824337881 and this tells us that 82.4% of the variation in the data is accounted for (that means the data is pretty good). The equation I stated earlier has a coefficient of 0.3879810939 and this tells us that generally as the bat gets one ounce heavier, the ball will go 0.3879810939mph faster
(If you make a confidence interval for the slope of the regression line at 98% confidence you get (0.0524, 0.7235) and this means we can estimate with 98% confidence that there is actually a positive linear trend
In conclusion there is a positive trend, bigger bat = faster hit we don't have enough data for more accurate results but this is what I got.
@@landenheine7645 I just asked for a list of the results not the results in a graph.
i can still not believe that you swung 90.9MPH with that t-ball bat LOL 😂 still cant stop laughing.
The answer is the heaviest bat you can control the barrel on and not lose swing speed. It's physics. More mass at the same speed equates to an increased force delivered at impact. However, not all bats are equal. Some are end loaded, meaning more of the bat weight is in the barrel. Others are more "balanced." My son has an Easton ADV 31 drop 8 and 2 Cat 9s, a 32 drop 8 and a 32 drop 5, all are 1 piece alloy bats. The balance point for the ADV is roughly 1 inch closer to the barrel than the CAT 9 drop 8, making the swing feel heavier than the CAT 9 drop 8 even though the CAT 9 is one ounce heavier than the ADV. Our body has a maximum speed it can "swing" a bat at, no matter how light the bat is that is being swung, like a whiffle ball bal.
The only way to get a good data set would be to compare different bat weights of the same length bat from the same bat model. But as I said before, physics already tells us that the heaviest bat wins. As is evident to me when my son hits BP and the ball flies 20 plus feet further with his drop 5 vs his drop 8 using the same type of baseball.
The heavier the bat, the more velocity that travels to the ball
*it might be small but it has a big personality*
Awesome to see someone swinging the Anderson techzilla. Shit use to be a cheat code in little league
ive always wondered this, thanks!
Did a science experiment on this lmao. I concluded that the best was the heaviest but with same bat speed
Love the vids keep it up
My theory is you'll get the most results out of the heaviest bat you can swing the fastest. Any bat too heavy to swing as fast as you can consistently swing will have less speed like the 33oz at the end.
honestly it just depends on how strong you are
Can you hit the left side and the right side?
Do wood and metal bats hit different distances?
When you can hit a baseball down and it Carrie’s back up, you know you’re exit velo is fast
I excluded the wood bat's for this test.
By putting all of the values into a graph it looks roughly linear so we just gotta roll with it and we get a lsrl line of y=87.74510466+0.3879810939*x with an r squared value of 0.824337881 and this tells us that 82.4% of the variation in the data is accounted for (that means the data is pretty good). The equation I stated earlier has a coefficient of 0.3879810939 and this tells us that generally as the bat gets one ounce heavier, the ball will go 0.3879810939mph faster
(If you make a confidence interval for the slope of the regression line at 98% confidence you get (0.0524, 0.7235) and this means we can estimate with 98% confidence that there is actually a positive linear trend
In conclusion there is a positive trend, bigger bat = faster hit we don't have enough data for more accurate results but this is what I got.
Dang you put in the work
@@Avsforthecup21 lol, I took a stats class this year and I'm trying my best to use what I know
@@landenheine7645 good for you bro keep doing what you’re doing
@@Avsforthecup21 thanks
@@landenheine7645 no problem have a great day
I hate to be a stickler here, so I'll suggest working with either a local engineering school or Smarter Everyday crossover, so you can get a more homogeneous testing, but i do like you are trying to help (potential) players make educated decisions
Can you try and do with the same bats but with seeing which bat hits the farthest please? I love you videos btw ❤
Can you do a comparison between the weights and wood and metal
Bros jawline is sharper than a razor
Could you rate the USA f5 marucci bat please
Sorry coach but it all depends on the hitter. It's just math... swing velo and bat weight (actually barrel mass). So a heavier, end-loaded bat will hit harder for a guy strong enough to swing it with high velo, but for a skinny kid who can't then the lighter bat will hit harder.
I keep hearing that ding sound that is starting to drive me crazy
love it u make me hit dingers
This could possibly be the first person I’ve seen to spin off of a middle middle tee pitch😂
Anderson! Yes!
F=MxA so yes the heavier and bigger bats will hit harder.
It rally depends on who batter is and which bat they feel the most comfortable with
I love yr vids ❤❤❤
You have to be strong enough to control the heavier bat to get the benefit of harder hits. You didn't even make good contact with the heavy wood.
Does this work against balls that way about 150-200 lb? For a friend
Great job 👏
The bran Warstic is CRAZY y’all should check it out if u ain’t playin travel ball their make ones that are legal for little leagues trust me it CRAZY
Coachrac how hard does a 19 ounce 2 piece composite hit?
OK big question here, what exactly would be considered a light bat, so like is anything over 30 ounce considered to be really heavy?
in my opinion it's the bat that is the heaviest I'd you can swing it just as fast and hard as the lighter bat😁
if*
Depends on your build right?
It seems though that physics play into this and if that T-ball bat was a lot longer and still 12 ounces you’d be able to swing it faster in turn getting a higher exit velocity.
You should experiment does a light bat hit further then a heavier bat ?
I always go for the bat that costs over $450. The more you spend, the more motivation to make it worth buying 😅
It just depends on how you hit
How you hit 90 with the tball bat
Not saying this to make u upset but velo could change based on type of metal ect.
length might also play a factor in this
Mass Moves Mass
Where do you store your bats
Hey rac, just wondering but what microphone do you use on your shirt? Might get one to film videos of my own. Help people with their swings
Don’t let that back foot move when u hit u will be so much better!!!
What hits the ball farmer a wood bat or a metal bat?
I swing a 34 drop 10
Softball bat it’s the new Easton Ghost
Based on my calculations, I just need a 360oz bat for guarenteed dingers
Bro is literally first down training but for baseball same looks cut and style
You hit hard for a lefty compared to me as a righty
Can you do a tut on how to properly break in a middle infield mitt?
All swung at the same bat speed, the heaviest would produce the highest exit velo
Hype fire would destroy all