Gangs of London - Moscow17 v Zone 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ธ.ค. 2020
- This story felt quite personal to me. It's a bit different in tone to some of my other work. I hope it gives you a better understanding of what people are going through in the UK. Respects to those involved. Thanks for watching.
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2:14 Who are Moscow17?
6:06 Members of Moscow17
6:56 Who are Zone-2?
10:26 Members of Zone-2
12:22 The Music Beef
15:53 The Murder of ABZ (Zone-2)
19:11 The Murder of GB (Moscow17)
23:03 The Murder of Incognito (Moscow17)
27:47 Zone-2's "No Censor", drill music's most devastating diss track.
29:00 - 30:42 Conclusion.
And then?
@IniquityRaids lol
@@btdjl @Trap Lore Ross what's the toon at 6:56??
@@rumple269 chattin - vvano
@@btdjl appreciate it
People saying he's giving "straight facts / information for the feds"; if a guy on TH-cam can research all this, then Police definitely can as well.
Exactly
He’s stating things everyone knows already
Please explain his k-pop haircut
@@johnblazini7702 no
Well said
Drake is at home laying on his stomach kicking his legs in the air watching this getting ready to use this info on his next album
stfu, Drake been certified. he linked with narm boss Giggs
💯🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@user-mz3ni8yu4v drakethe biggest fake guy ever, you an idiot if you think he's hard in any way lol
@@jasongreen3905 mums but he do be eating p and he brought back top boy
Drake is the softest moistest rapper alive what are you smoking
moscow17 vs zone 2 sounds like two league of legends teams
thats what I thought
Lmao
Moscow 5 was a league team lmfaoo
@@swayarrow lol, I knew I was on the right track there
You got gangs called woo vs choo which sound like a baby station and you got black disciple which sounds like a church group you Americans can’t talk about gang names🤣
people criticizing ross for being a white, middle class dude talking about gangs are absolute brainlets. i would say from the perspective of another white middle class dude that it’s good he’s making an effort to learn about the kinds of things that go on where he lives, without having to actually do and experience those things himself on a firsthand basis. all while staying respectful while talking about it, of course.
Ross needs to make a new series what happened to him
@T Peterson theres a lot of intelligent black people thousands and you see in the politics today the world is fighting to win over Africa politically because they are no longer easily fooled and manipulated. In the next 20 years you will see africa and the and Asia rise and the west take a massive fall culturally financially
His hair should be a crime.
I'm from the type of American city he talks about in his videos and I love this shit. not disrespectful at all. he understands the different gang cultures better than a lot of the people I've met that pretend to be with the shit.
i was born and raised in south London to Ghanaian parents done 10yrs inside. Trap Ross is doing his thing. he actually comes across as genuine as well. i have watched 4 of his videos. people who chat about him are just haters
I didn't even really notice this at first, put there are basically no jokes at all throughout the video. He talks about the beef, the crews, and the culture with the utmost respect to everyone involved. You handled this story very well. One of the best vids on this channel, full stop.
Yeah he lives like 5 minutes frm them
Doesn't change the fact that every chav with knife is a joke
I thought it made him look bad. He’ll mock the deaths of rappers from Florida and Chicago but gave these guys the utmost respect. He knows that the US artists crews probably won’t even watch his video, but when it’s the guys in his neighborhood trying to act like a United States street gang he makes sure not to ruffle any feathers. It’s a shame people died but out here in the states there’s 15 and 16 year olds walking around with guns like nothing out here . If he lived in the USA I feel he wouldn’t be so quick to make fun of them the way he does. I just wish he would treat everyone with the same respect and just stick to the facts . I know it’s entertainment just something I noticed
@@chancejackson2817 In his Chicago video he never joked about anyones death. Even pointing out the fact that tooka was only 16 and not something to joke about.
@@fragtall I saw no white yutes in this why you mentioning chavs?
😂😂😂 it’s always guys that look like this who know everything that’s going on in the hood in south london 💀
Trizzlur
10:50
Same as Ape huncho, he sound so middle class and he’s talking about gang beef. This apparently grew up there so I’d give him a pass.
Unknown I grew up down the way, and this is all news to me! Different people just tune into different things at different times?
@@gee_emm I mean that if he grew up in the local area I’d understand if made the effort to learn about gangs in his local area. It is still jarring that’s he going into this much detail
"They played a Sonic coin sound effect every time a murder was mentioned."
That has to be the most gangster thing I've ever heard.
Nah would be way better with the mario coin sound effect
@@Ludvig377 in Sonic Games you always hear the coin ring sound effect when ever Sonic takes damage.
So it actually does make way more sense to use the Sonic sound than the Mario sound
@@nutellakingboss_6944 oooh yeah that makes sense
imagine that there's a zone 2 member right there when this guy was putting the flowers
Would have been another splashing
@@crimzonrayz3274 depends Ross might of allowed him
@@jaws4934 big facts his security guy is huge bro
@@jaws4934 😂😂😂
Bro the ending on this had me in my feels, you're the goat
a poncho
You 2 are the goats of UK rap content
your channel deserves to explode in popularity to.. sure it will do, keep up the good work
whats up Huncho
And it’s ya boy
It’s all fun and games until Trap lore pulls up on the block!!! Ten toes season !!!!!
Lol lol
Hide your kids hide your wife.
Lol hide your drinks lol
Tha one piece pfp tho
Funnies comment I have seen lol🎯
i can’t lie this actually had me hooked from beginning to end
Same icl
As a US American I would much rather hear about the gangs over there on yall's side. Everyone knows about what we do over here.
@secrecy silence true but frfr you won’t hear about ops pulling up with Samurai swords on our side of the pond. Way more interesting imo lmao
@secrecy silence 😂😂
That’s not even necessarily true. We only hear about the LA/chicago/NYC gangs, not the ones in East St. louis, Detroit or Bmore
@@SmoothOperator412 broooo im saying. as an american i fw american drill but uk drill and uk culture and memes overall are just more amusing and interesting to me
Right! He’s from the UK - talk about y’all shit. He should b better informed on it. Everyone knows about the GDs Bloods and Crips
Damn TLR is posted on the block. The opps are shook
Fax
He prob got a Russian on him still
@@anu12332 Trap Lore Ross pullin up with that Schweppes Russchian. 👀👀👀
Ross always keep the blicc
Ross is gangster
Been looking for a video like this! Thank you.
Ive been looking for a Zone 2 in depth video you just got a new sun💯💯💯
Man went to his barber and said "gimmie the simple jack"
Lmfao! 🤣
😂😭😂😭😂😂
Jack Jack..stupid ass Jack 🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂🤜🏾🤜🏾
You ma ma make me haappppyyy!!!
TLR went outside? Damn, I can't believe it
His mum said he cod if be was home before darm
In dis ya cold weather ❄️☔gotta respect the grind
Man wants to branch out and get that BBC money
@@marvin5095 i hope you mean the news
Greenscreen
Bro this video was incredible. Still amazing content.
Really well made video. Sad to see so many lives lost. Keep up the good work.
What made GBs death more sad was that his own mother had to clean his blood that must have been so heart breaking
She’s posted videos showing police sheets saying dsqueezo etc were in the car when GB got shot
She made him, it's not sad.
@@dxshawn532 wdym she made him it’s not sad?
She even sent GB to Jamaica to keep him safe but he wanted to come back
@@dxshawn532 stfu
rah that’s deep smh shit ain’t even worth it in the end mans beef over post codes which are owned by the queen who don’t give a fuck bout any black man or any minorities it’s like man doing the work for her by killing one another
Made sure he got out there EARLY when nobody is outside lol
Yeah lol
Trap lore isn't daft he was throwing up o's other day 🤣🤣
Lol facts
Real G's move in silence 😤 Trap Lore ain't no goofy
Lol
Having grown up in SE it’s sad and tiring to see the loss of life and possibilities.
Hearing incognito talk with awareness in that interview and then his life just gone in the next frame is peak.
He was right as well, we have to deal with issues before they begin through educating young kids about life and the world outside South London and offering them different opportunities.
Damn bro. Ending hits hard Thank you for the awesome videos🙏
he looks like Theresa May with that haircut
Theresa, but ya that is funny!
Had to google it, but yeah you right
Was gna say something bout his mop but this comment is spot on
Lol
Dying lol 😂
All this shit is so sad and depressing man. I've been living South my whole life and everyone just wants to look as intimidating as possible. Communities are tight but not embracing of other communities. It will always be like this. RIP to all the past and future victims
Real talk
It’s all idiotic.
Fighting over post codes etc, is just stupid.
They can’t use “poverty” as an excuse either.
I know many people including myself who grew up on estates who made an effort to do well in school, went on to university and put in effort to better our lives/surroundings.
A lot of these idiots think the world is owe them a living and they should be handed opportunities over people who actually put in effort, then when they don’t get their own way, they claim it’s all about poverty, racism and oppression……It’s actually because they chose to get involved in stupidity and not put in any effort.
They chose that life and the consequences that come with that life are their own doing.
Nobody else is to blame for their choices.
@@Acheron666 I 100% agree with you and I am black. There are black people in this country(England) who are successful. Although, I do acknowledge that there is RACISM but that's still no excuse. It's about making an effort regardless.
@@michaelalali-goodnews2849
All my friends are in full time employment with really good jobs.
We all grew up on a 💩, crime ridden estate.
If people want a decent life, then there’s effort and hard work that needs to take place for that to happen.
Most of us aren’t lucky enough to be born to multi millionaire parents and we have to make our own futures better for ourselves.
All the effort you put in when you’re young is just an investment in a better future, but a whole lot of people want to skip the hard work/effort and be handed a life of luxury on a plate.
@@Acheron666 true. It is the impatience they want to skip the hardwork and much needed self-sacrifice to get to where they want to and delusional about the celebrity lifestyle. But just as you have said, it's all a matter of choice
Content exceptional since jump!! Keep making these gang videos man wonderful
Man! Big up to Trap Lore! Lot of facts and Investigations! Keep goin' my G! S/O from South Paris France. 🇫🇷💯 One Luv to my U.K Lads and Sistaz.
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On est bons. On est bons! 💪🏾👍🏾
They're murdering each other, what shall we do? Put them in jail?
Uk police : no let's take down some TH-cam vids.
I mean as an American these sound really funny because there music is protected by the first amendment unless they actually commit the crime
@@cursedteletubbiespicture3171 try walking past a group of them past 9pm and its us who would need protecting
@@candytwirlstv3659 oh yeah definitely ain’t gonna mess with any gang bangers especially road men
Them getting on youtube wanting to b chicago is what caused this. So yes.
@@bluetruckin they aren’t trying to be Chicago it was similar circumstances to Chicago you grow up in poverty you grow up wanting things so you steal or kill for those things and those people who were affiliated with the one who was killed wants revenge until the other group gets killed creating an endless cycle
Here before the internet gangsters act like they’re involved
Get off the block fooooooool
I don’t think anybody would want to claim to be a London/British Gangster lmao
@@cjudah74 why is that?
@Robert Scott idk have u seen snatch? That old guy feeds people to pigs 🐽
@Robert Scott takes a lot more of a crazed maniac to shiv someone 100 times or dash acid at them then shoot a weapon
US drill rapper: i run my block.
UK drill rapper: i tend to my estate.
😂😂😂😂 bruhhh
Thanks for the news bro 🏴. Shit getting so crazy out there on the street's. Covid has mest things right up and young people are so frustrated and frustrated ther is nothing for them by the time they grow up it's sad AF. ✌️
This series is the best of its kind, streets wanna see more about the UK Drill scene
Ahlie
UK rap is trash
We love haters ^
@@ohsogta lmao let them hate like headie and tion n them man don’t get hundreds of millions of streams
What streets? Lmao one of our cities has more bodies in a weekend than your whole country ina year 🤣🤣😅
as a American who listens to U.K. drill my fellow Americans there r so many U.K. bangers which u haven’t heard .
You sure? Lol
Facts
I gave it a try, didn’t like some of it but they definitely have some bangers
Same I love UK drill
I'm half british and I don't agree, it's not there yet but is growing definitely
Absolutely incredible video. All your work is fantastic, research is always second to none, but this one hit different. You can legit feel the care, attention, and passion that was put into this one. The way it was put together was perfect, and that ending was the fucking icing on the goddamn cake. Barely ever heard of these dudes but you brought a couple tears to ya boi's eye with that one man, flawless work.
Search up diverse mentality he’s the best on TH-cam
So at first I was sceptical as I’ve been a resident here for over 20 years, but when you started mentioning OTB, MOB and S.I I was like this guy knows his stuff 😳. Serious throwbacks forreal.
Homerton vs fields has to be made. Real life top boy.
Real life top boywith real life victims rip to jdot he was my brothers friend
Top boy is about pembury and fields not homerton
@@JPMMAPicks cap
@@JPMMAPicks rip jdot his death was brutal
@@jameshunt8116 u don't know if he lying or not
Bro your hair makes you look like Trunks on low battery settings
Lmaoooo
Straight bowl cut like raplh wiggum
😂😂😂😂
😭😭😭😂😂😂
😂 💀 💀
Your videos are Awesome whether it's America or Across the pond keep it coming
Wow this is what i needed
We need more of these, it’s legendary, if u keep doing these videos then I promise you will go further!!
this is really interesting to me! i've never heard about any of this uk drill lore stuff and it's valuable to have an insight. the production value and writing is as good as always man, i'm addicted to these videos.
Well done-as usual but this video definitely felt particularly well done.
I hope you never let anyone discourage you from making these videos, whether they focus on the UK or the US.
Crazy to see everything you hear in songs and see on snap in a documentary style video
Damm the beef is mence. These men never live happy lives it's sad. That's why I hate it when kids wanna chase that lifestyle
Exactly, I seen sooo many stories of freshies who lived 2/3 peeps to a room turn into millionaires years later. What stories come from the hood apart from artists.. even then these artists still ain’t on that legit money lifestyle
Yup and the cycle continues . . .
They don’t even want the money now
@@crashsquad4974 they just want power. But realise this ain't a movie, U can be big and tough wid a gang but when Ur caught without Ur gang Ur done.
@@syrus1233 yh but its always like that urbig with others not by urself
I hear they carry swords in London, not little pocket knifes yet some lethal metal.
Yes
they carry muskets
@@ioiaxopanel3652 lmfao 🤣
thats how mizormac got sent to pen, he had a samurai sword
We carry machetes and shit everywhere guns are not that big of a thing
Thank you for shedding a light on this story. RIP to everyone who has lost their life. 🙏🏼
Remember when trizzac brought up "W Street" in the fumez interview, it makes so much sense now👀
Damn usually mothers fear for your safety and send you from Jamaica to the uk rarely the other way around
Trust London is nice but has a dark side like anyplace have a.good one ☝
@Andre DREDRE Jordan - put every penny possible to getting out ! GET OUT !!
@r t It depends where you at, but you right, in most of the country it's super easy. NYC is one of those places where it's harder, which is why you don't usually see straps in NYC rap music videos because that can get you clapped super easy because it's so hard to get one (legally) in NYC and the police be on yo ass if they see one in the goddamn background of the video so it's more like London in that way. It's to the point that NYPD have a actual "hip hop police" division that's dedicated to followin gang affiliated ny rappers every move waitin for them to slip.
@Andre DREDRE Jordan Yeah Baltimore is renown for being wild. I'm from NYC and when I was younger it wasn't unusual for people to send they kids back down to yard cause they'd be gettin in too much trouble. Now it's a lot better though. Baltimore hasn't seemed to have changed unfortunately.
@Andre DREDRE Jordan Yeah I know. Good luck to you man. I'm tryna just get outta the country period tbh😂
Uk drill and gang culture is intriguing to me. I’m American I’m a huge fan of drill music. Long live the fallen soldiers on both sides. Let’s stop the beef and get to the money💯💯💯
Salute 💪🏼
Respect 👑
Yh respect man . People think the UK is all tea and biscuit whereas the gangs are everywhere here and are extremely brutal as they use knifes or samurai swords
Ye go get a job, pal.
@@Madlyshort what? He just likes his music
You should do the whole Tottenham vs Hackney beef. So much happened.l, it'd make for a good deep dive
These videos are so good. We need a cgm or active gang one of these
Need more UK based videos like this Ross.
Facts
Just to be clear guns aren't totally banned in the UK, they are just licensed. Handguns are virtually banned while shotgun are relatively simple to get and most rifles are can also be obtained under a license.
Facts bro
they aren’t easy to get you need to under go a lot of tests to prove your intentions with the gun
@@dacaptain1739 No that’s not correct. They do a criminal background check and request a mental health record from your doctor. That’s it for a shotgun. Rifles need a bit more justification but it’s nothing major.
@@dacaptain1739 That's bullshit, stop talking please
@@MrBADMAN2222 let's face it most of us are not ever getting given a shot gun criminal record or not the law is so the Lords and farmers get protection and to cull us
Your head moves more than tyson furys in the rematch against wilder...
Lmao
Fr
What TF does that have to do with anything?!
😂😂😂😂😂 This is funny af seeing this RIGHT after Fury beat Wilder again 2 days ago
@@Supernova-lc2yf facts lmao
Damn the ending with the little speech of young men finding a way out and the police siren in the background almost brung me to tears man.
Could we get the history of Anakin's 501'st legion vs the separatist droid forces Mr Ross?
That's sad that you would ultimately diss your own deceased relative because they were in a rival gang.
he shot his blood brother in the leg
he shot his blood brother in the leg
@@mrminiature11 him or his cousin shot his bro?
Dm man if he opp he opp
TRIZZLA
Trap Ross the Goat.. Buddy pulled up to the ends "is mans mad"
The deep videos always make to work day great.
My brothers and sisters in the UK I love y'all 💯👑
From: your brother in the states 💯💪🏿
Love bro
love my g
My guy🤘
Jesus Christ died for your sins
@@louisupton3740 I'm not a Christian Muslim nor Jew but I respect your path and faith
This guy knows so much about gangs you would've thought he repped for them all
He wishes he did
@@cassanateli fr some Batty man
TLR out there 🤫
@@cassanateli it takes very little effort to get this info fr the police know 5 times what he does
100tg
love these vids
He really shows how interesting London gang culture is with this vid and the ofb vs N9. Very good journalism
Well done, music is so influential all over the World, this is the first video I’ve watched from the UK that pretty much summed up just how dangerous Drill music is Worldwide, much respect for the ending,
May they Rest Peacefully 🙏
It ain't the music thats dangerous. Guns don't kill people. People just use guns to kill people.
@@l0lan00b3the dumbest comment ive read this whole year 😂
This was amazing! Honestly didn't know about any of this!! God heal your children ❤
Very well put together bro 👏shame it's such a bad story
He put the Moscow March instrumental on in the background when he started talking about it getting banned by the police. Nice.
This was legitimately dope and shows how much TLR is dedicated to his fan base and his content thanks for the upload.
Trap Lore Ross, you’re the king man
BLESSINGS FAM
Love ur vids man
Hey Trappies! I am a lady watching from Jamaica and I have to mention that my journey into UK Urban Culture has been really interesting. It all started with subscribing to Trap Lore in 2018, finding out more about the Chicago and UK Drill music (learning more about the gangs and the devastation they cause over dumb post codes), finding Shiro's Story, Blue Story etc, which led to watching Top Boy (favourite find) and even now the journey continues.
TLR and di mandem really spotlighting the culture and allowing me and others to learn about topics that are usually not so mainstream.
Sad for all the young men who have lost their lives and their families enduring their loss.
Ross is a clown
Great movie 10/10 again, well deserved of how far you have come. Imprinted in the hip hop scene
The walkaway and sirens in the background mixed with piano was so poetic
Brilliant Mate 👐👐
Trap Lore Ross's level of research and workrate is unrivalled.
This what we need from you man put us hip to the shit over there!!
Gotta give props to Tim WestWood for helping the up and comers!!!
Back in '88 - I lived in the same flats as Tim W. - "Fulham!!" He was cool - gave us a look at his flat wall-to-wall graffed walls a couple of 1200s, never seen those in anyone's house Lino tiled floors. Cool. He even introduced me to Flavor Flav at the Mud club [Fridays at bananas - Phil Salon sporting Viv. Westwoods crown!]Thanks for the channel!
they stole his "fake Cartier watch" damn why they have to mans like that
PLEASE make more of these, the uk needs it
we need some more of these london ones!!!
Banger vid
Trap Lore Ross is the shitttt, these videos are great man. so much bullshit and misinformation goes around with these types of topics...It’s so great to have a channel that actually does some research and puts effort into making a video. Huge fan!
Ross been grinding for that bag with these frequents drops💕Respect the hustle
Love ur vids bro u real og
Shows these guys DO have a conscience & could probably go on to do great things; they definitely have the energy. Societal circumstances plus poor personal choices ultimately costs more than what little's been gained.
He knows all the in and outs.... Someone must have told him 🤔🤔🤣
Man be loading😂
I'm not in my bag I'm LOADING LOADING.
@@thembinkosikissama8764 are you talking about that central cee song? What gang is he I’m curious or are you making fun of him.
I ain’t tryna be rude but dudes self snitching and the fact that this info is very easy to get because if the internet is the main reason I can’t even imagine what the police know fr
@@davidjackson9680 he knows more then the police , no doubt
Zone 2 - No Censor and Dead are still two of the most disrespectful tracks I’ve ever heard 😭
Kelvin coffin is way more
@@ap17l93 Just heard it for the first time and it doesn’t sound that disrespectful but the story behind it makes it hella disrespectful.
@@ap17l93 put in a spliff is pretty bad too
Listen to young dizz’s verse on Smokey things if you wanna hear some real disrespectful crud 🤒
@@bugz6234 anything Young Dizz i know will be demonic 😭
I love that you got a London haircut for the episode
All that area was my first social work patch, in 1885. My first social work walk, was on the Aylesbury Estate. I had to question my wisdom of becoming a social worker at that time. But I stayed and grew to love the area, for all the 11 years that I was there.
Man this video was really well done and very interesting and sad. Would love to see you touch on more UK rappers and topics as that's something a little less well known here in America. Another great video TLR
I'm from Moscow, but live in London. This was interesting👍
Mad how I was leaving school the yr I first heard about these two beefing. I'm 19/20 this yr now, feels like so long ago
Yh same I was like 12 and I’m 16 now
Very interesting ,lived in Elephant n Castle ,squatting in high rises in the 80s when I was a punk
I think the way Moscow17 got its name is really cool.
The quality of your work is sky rocketing. I use to sleep on you but dam. You're up next, best of luck TLR and keep up the fantastic work.
im really lovin these vids, theyre really respectful and educational. im very happy youre taking a serious and understanding look at these gangs
Why’s this guy so informed. It’s like he’s remembered all this information. yeah (He must have photographic memory)
As a fan of UK music from state side I can't wait until I visit hopefully see a show 🤞