@@huzefaaaaAs usual, he his talking with ambiguity, no one can draw any conclusions from his speech. The only conclusion I can draw is that he is supporting the current regime and nullifying democracy. I don't know why people listen to him
Sorry I have added the link in the description but putting here as well: Askari Propaganda: th-cam.com/video/v6hsOrQf5so/w-d-xo.htmlsi=SPNZnpqMvBsIf_cS Supporting Army: th-cam.com/video/1hkSkMeKXD0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PinRZ0hyzYaNK32C
MashAllah sister you will extremely good content and your ikhlaq is very good. Main ap se kafi chotta hu but obviously is generation ka hu our shyad apse zyada soch nai ki sahlahiyat rakhta hu is bat ka bura na manaye ga mera bat karne ka koi asa maqsad nahi hai ke app ki dil aazari ho but parda is most important in islam but you cannot wiring hijab and na he koi aesa libas jokai body ko pura dhak sake to please please please is hawale sai soche kal apnai maine ham sab nai marna hai allah ko jawab dena hai meri dua hai ke allah apko hidayat dyn and allah pak apko apne pasandida ortoo main shamil farmaye. Ameeen 🙌🏻
Thanks for your comment. Mere bhai yeh kis ne apko bola hai k PARDA is most important thing in Islam? Yeh ap ne Quran main parha hai? Yeh to molviyon ka phailaya hua fitna hai jo unho ne Islam ko sirf parday aur darhiyon main band kar diya hai jo kay Islam k saath bohaut bara zulm hai. Baraye meherbani apna zehen kholiay aur islam ki asal essence ko samajhnay ki koshish kijiay jo kay duniya ko roshni dikhanay k liay aya hai. Duniya to choriay Pakistan main is waqt itna zulm aur jabar chal raha hai aur apko parday ki pari hai, nihayat afsos ka muqam hai. Allah paak apko hidayat de aur apnay pasandeeda mardon main shamil farmaye ameen.
main itna khush hua kay koi zabardast kism ki intellectual discourse pay behs hogi, ghamidi ko corner kiya jaygea with rational and authenticity, yeh toh youthiyapa tha sara. bhai time zaya hua. ab chalta hun syed muzammil wali video pay. wahan dekhta hun kiya tankeed ha.
@HiraArif2023 Respected Mam Nobody Born To Convince To anyone But 70% Of Sunni's Also Can't Admire Mauvia. It's Good You Admire Him , this is giant universe Nobody Thinks same Like Others 60% People of World Thinks Isa (as) Is the Son of God, But Who Care's
Khoob good content, bas aram se baith kar baat karain, chakkar aa gaya.... 😂...bas hum in Molvion ki waja se cannot stop loving our religion. Alhamdulilah.... By the way here its too cold in Canada.... Ho sukta ha company ne unka damaad ki patai ki ho 😂
after all every politician serve to the master (ISI) no matter what in before 2018 election Imran khan polish the ISI boots and then become PM now Sharif did that and become PM so if you polish the boot of ISI you become PM
Why does anyone needs to polish the boot of ISI, that is what you need to think fellow ignorant Pakistani. Why this fironi army is controlling everything? This is a question every Pakistani should ask and struggle to get the freedom from this fironi army.
Ghamidi sahab politics main ghus rahay hain aur munafiqat kar rahay hain to is video main usi baat ko expose karoongi, na kay koi aur maslay. Pakistan ka sab se bara masla hi politics main fironi fauj ki interference hai. Baqi apko roasting videos dekhni hai to youtube bhara para hai.
@HiraArif2023 Javed Ghamidi sb is perhaps the greatest scholar of this era and we do not expect such unjustifiable remarks from him. Madam, You have a very attention-gaining way of expression. Keep doing.
Ghamdi sahb ko iss umer main aeysay apni beizzati karwanay ka kya showk sawar huwa hay, especially when he has been propagating sane logics for more than 40 years.
Jis mulk MAI main hun usmai fironi army nahi hai, lakin jis mulk SE main hun wahan par fironi army hai aur masoom awam par zulm kar rahi hai, tu tension tu hogi, apko nahi hoti beta ? 😛
Comment karnay ka shukriya. G Bilkul Ghamidi Sahab ne apni zindagi ilm seekhnay par lagaye hai aur unkay pas knowledge ka samandar hai lakin is baat ki guarantee nahi ke koi ilm rakhnay wala kabhi gumrah nahi hosakta? Ap is baat ko soochye ke kese aik insaan is fironi army jis ke khilaf unhun ne khud sari zindagi bataya achanak se army ki support mai bol raha hai?
The content is not good at all. We should respect Islamic scholars as we are Muslims. This lady to immature to come to the level of delivering content.
Thanks for your comment. Are you saying my content is not good because I am criticising scholars? Do you think scholars are immune from being misguided? Kindly understand and follow Quran ( Surah Taubah - 31 ) and stop worshipping your scholars.
@fauziaarif3467 I didn't. I am talking about my first 10 seconds. It's an honest review. When you pick up a topic as intellectual as it includes ghamidi, Imaran khan, and establishment, your audience is intelligencia. Get to the rational arguments and healthy debate as quickly as possible 🙏
Thanks for your comment. I understand your point. I make vlogging style videos in which I share my thoughts, opinions and facts. I can understand people who are only interested in listening the opinion on certain matter then there are many Pakistani youtubers who make talking head videos. I think you will be more interested in those kind of videos. I personally want to explore this as an option as it allows me to be creative with video shooting and editing, I am not saying it's the best video style but this is something I want to try for now. I hope you will understand 😊
I clicked on your video expecting an unbiased critique of Ghamidi. Instead, you’re just echoing a populist narrative that appeals to most Pakistanis. What they refuse to confront is how IK rose to power and the damage he’s inflicted on the economy and foreign policy. I hope you’re aware of the recent surge in terrorism and who the biggest supporters of these groups were.
I checked your comment expecting an unbiased critique of my arguments. Instead you are just echoing DG ISPR's narrative which appeals to most of fironi army supporters. How Imran Khan rose to power? what damage he inflicted on economy and foreign policy? Aren't you aware that it was Bajwa who announced in 2021 in one of the meeting with journalists in ISI headquarters that Afghan Taliban has said that TTP should be resettled in Pakistan, and Afghan Taliban will help in negotiating the agreements between Pakistan Army and TTP. Pakistan army left with no options but to resettle them, but then Pakistan army broken the deal as they are deceivers by nature, and start murdering the ones who were more vocal. This is the reason of this recent surge in terrorism, this also helps this fironi army to create an enemy to keep justifying their terrible actions. Where does Imran Khan fit in, in all this? No Prime Minister be it Imran Khan, Nawaz Sharif or Shahbaz Sharif has any say in majority of matters of Pakistan, it's this corrupt fironi army who makes all these terrible decisions. So kindly open your brain, don't just mindlessly repeat DG ISPR's propaganda, thanks.
I appreciate your perspective, but I respectfully disagree with your assessment of Mr. Javed Ahmed Ghamdi's stance on the TTP and the Kharijite comparison. Firstly, Mr. Ghamdi’s analysis is rooted in Islamic principles, which emphasize the importance of justice, unity, and peace. When Mr. Ghamdi describes the TTP as being similar to the Kharijites, he is not aligning with any political agenda but pointing to the fundamental characteristics that make the TTP’s ideology extreme and violent, much like the early Kharijites. They declared other Muslims as non-believers, resorted to violent tactics, and rejected the authority of the state-core behaviors that have parallels with the TTP's actions. Secondly, it is important to note that Mr. Ghamdi has never blindly supported the army. He has consistently spoken against any form of injustice, whether it’s from the military, the government, or any other institution. He has always called for an Islamic governance model based on ethics, not oppression or force. His statements about the TTP are based on Islamic jurisprudence and the historical context of the Kharijites, and not on any political loyalty. Lastly, if we look at the core issue: the TTP’s violence against civilians, the army, and the Pakistani state cannot be justified under any legitimate interpretation of Islam. The role of any government or army is to maintain peace and order, which is also supported by Islamic principles. Criticizing Mr. Ghamdi for making this distinction between extremist groups and mainstream Muslims misrepresents his position and the reality of the situation. In conclusion, Mr. Ghamdi’s view is not about supporting the army but about recognizing the Islamic duty to denounce violence and extremism. His stance on the TTP is a call to understand the threat they pose to peace and unity, both in Pakistan and within the broader Muslim community.
Making the comparison between Khawarij and TTP is intellectual dishonesty from Ghamdi. Khawarij emerged against the legitimate elected Khalifa Ali ra, where as TTP emerged as a result of various crimes and policies of Fironi army. The biggest threat to Pakistani people, institutions, democracy, freedom, human rights is not from TTP but Fironi army. Ghamidi has conveniently ignored the army’s oppression and massacres against the most popular political party of Pakistan. He will talk about peace and justice but will never specifically mention the injustices happening against the most popular leader and his party. In conclusion Ghamdi is propagating what Fironi army wants Pakistani people to believe that this NAPAAK army is “PAAK” and TTP is the real enemy. Plus I don’t think you have even watched his army support video, so either you are ignorant or as hypocrite as Ghamidi.
Your argument appears to be driven more by political allegiance than a fair assessment of facts and principles. While I respect your right to hold a differing opinion, I would like to address the points you’ve raised: 1. Khawarij vs. TTP Comparison: Your claim that the comparison between the Khawarij and TTP is intellectual dishonesty ignores the core similarities between the two. Both reject legitimate authority (whether it be a Khalifa or a modern state), label other Muslims as non-believers, and resort to violence and rebellion to impose their ideology. The historical context may differ, but the ideological and behavioral parallels remain consistent. Mr. Ghamdi’s argument is rooted in Islamic principles, not in political propaganda. 2. Blaming the Army for TTP’s Emergence: While the Pakistani army has undeniably played a controversial role in the country’s politics, the TTP’s actions cannot be justified or excused as merely a response to the army’s policies. The TTP has killed thousands of innocent civilians and targeted schools, mosques, and markets. This is not resistance-it is terrorism. Blaming the army for their barbaric actions oversimplifies the issue and excuses their extremism, which is deeply rooted in their ideology. 3. The Role of the Army in Politics: You seem to overlook the fact that Imran Khan himself was brought to power with significant backing from the same army you criticize. Every major political leader in Pakistan’s history has been a product of the establishment to some extent, including Imran Khan. To now blame the army exclusively while absolving political leaders of their complicity is inconsistent. 4. Mr. Ghamdi’s Focus on Principles: Accusing Mr. Ghamdi of hypocrisy because he hasn’t specifically mentioned injustices against your preferred political leader reflects a narrow and biased perspective. Mr. Ghamdi addresses broader principles of justice, peace, and morality without being swayed by partisan politics. His stance against extremism and violence is a principled one, not an endorsement of the army or any political entity. He has also criticized the military’s overreach in the past, disproving your claim of blind allegiance. 5. Emotional Bias in Your Argument: It seems that your criticism of Mr. Ghamdi is influenced by a deep attachment to a political leader. This emotional bias is preventing you from objectively assessing his views. Instead of engaging with the substance of his arguments, you’ve chosen to discredit him by alleging hidden motives and aligning him with the army-a claim unsupported by evidence. In conclusion, your argument conflates multiple issues-TTP’s extremism, the army’s role in politics, and injustices against a political party-without addressing each on its own merits. Mr. Ghamdi’s principled stance against extremism does not absolve the army of its misdeeds, but it does correctly identify the TTP as a significant threat to Pakistan’s peace and security. I encourage you to engage with Mr. Ghamdi’s views more deeply and objectively rather than dismissing them due to political bias.
Your argument appears to be driven more by religious allegiance than a fair assessment of facts and principles. 1. Khawarij vs. TTP Comparison: Your defence of Ghamidi ignores the core difference which is how and why these sects originated. To claim that their actions are like Khawarij is indeed intellectual dishonesty by hypocrite Ghamidi and the timing of the planted question and his opinion is reiterating ISPR’s propaganda. According to munafiq Ghamidi and you, current regime and fironi army are legitimate authorities, well that is the real question which munafiq Ghamidi need to address? Ghamidi’s argument is 100% rooted in political propaganda not in islamic principles at all. 2. Blaming the Army for TTP’s Emergence: Again, completely ignoring the fact that why TTP originated in the first place, it is indeed intellectual dishonesty ignoring the root cause and focusing on the results of evil policies of fironi army. No one is justifying TTP’s actions, so stop playing this foolish army’s propaganda. Fironi army needed an enemy so people focus more on other things instead of army’s evil policies, and Ghamidi is doing ISPR’s job fantastically. 3. The Role of the Army in Politics: That’s another false statement that Imran Khan is a product of army. Well even if he was, that doesn’t change the fact that army is controlling Pakistan and politicians are a product of this framework where fironi army is in control of everything. Plus even if Imran Khan was with army previously but NOW he isn’t, great leaders learn from their mistakes unlike Ghamidi who propagated against army all this time and all of a sudden became fironi army’s tout. 4. Mr. Ghamdi’s Focus on Principles: Well he has specifically criticised Imran Khan multiple times which shows that he is on agenda to persuade people against Imran Khan, which shows Ghamidi’s prejudice. 5. Emotional Bias in Your Argument: It seems your defence of Ghamidi’s evil statements is influenced by a deep attachment to a religious scholar. The emotional bias is preventing you from objectively assessing his evil views. Instead of understanding the timing, sudden change in his views and openly supporting dictatorship, you’ve chosen to support this munafiq by defending his baseless and evil statements. Ghamidi’s propaganda of ISPR’s agenda is a terrible mistake, he either should accept it and come clean before preaching Islam. I encourage you to stop being a fanboy of Ghamidi and look at his recent videos on army’s support and compare that with his previous views.
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You are great
Thank you😊
Absolutely true…..each and every word…….
Thanks for your comment 😊
🎉
in which country are you living?
Absolutely right
Thank you😊
Imran khan great leader of world ❤❤❤
YES! May Allah protect him Ameen😊
Ap kis contry sy vlog bna rhi hen
Damn Grl, U just ripped Gamdi Sb Apart.. 😅
can you please provide a link to his video?
th-cam.com/video/gdPhP8y1Xhc/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
@@huzefaaaaAs usual, he his talking with ambiguity, no one can draw any conclusions from his speech. The only conclusion I can draw is that he is supporting the current regime and nullifying democracy.
I don't know why people listen to him
Sorry I have added the link in the description but putting here as well:
Askari Propaganda: th-cam.com/video/v6hsOrQf5so/w-d-xo.htmlsi=SPNZnpqMvBsIf_cS
Supporting Army: th-cam.com/video/1hkSkMeKXD0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PinRZ0hyzYaNK32C
MashAllah sister you will extremely good content and your ikhlaq is very good.
Main ap se kafi chotta hu but obviously is generation ka hu our shyad apse zyada soch nai ki sahlahiyat rakhta hu is bat ka bura na manaye ga mera bat karne ka koi asa maqsad nahi hai ke app ki dil aazari ho but parda is most important in islam but you cannot wiring hijab and na he koi aesa libas jokai body ko pura dhak sake to please please please is hawale sai soche kal apnai maine ham sab nai marna hai allah ko jawab dena hai meri dua hai ke allah apko hidayat dyn and allah pak apko apne pasandida ortoo main shamil farmaye.
Ameeen 🙌🏻
Thanks for your comment. Mere bhai yeh kis ne apko bola hai k PARDA is most important thing in Islam? Yeh ap ne Quran main parha hai?
Yeh to molviyon ka phailaya hua fitna hai jo unho ne Islam ko sirf parday aur darhiyon main band kar diya hai jo kay Islam k saath bohaut bara zulm hai. Baraye meherbani apna zehen kholiay aur islam ki asal essence ko samajhnay ki koshish kijiay jo kay duniya ko roshni dikhanay k liay aya hai. Duniya to choriay Pakistan main is waqt itna zulm aur jabar chal raha hai aur apko parday ki pari hai, nihayat afsos ka muqam hai. Allah paak apko hidayat de aur apnay pasandeeda mardon main shamil farmaye ameen.
Bht khub Masha Allah
Comment aur video like karnay ka shukriya😊
Exmuslim mulhid apostate are better than ghamdi
main itna khush hua kay koi zabardast kism ki intellectual discourse pay behs hogi, ghamidi ko corner kiya jaygea with rational and authenticity, yeh toh youthiyapa tha sara. bhai time zaya hua. ab chalta hun syed muzammil wali video pay. wahan dekhta hun kiya tankeed ha.
Main itna khush thi ke koi zabardast kism se intellectually meray arguments ko criticise kiya jayega, lakin idhar tu trolling is their only argument😛
Apricate it.❤
Uss cheez kay such honay mein koi shak nahi jis per sari ummat mutafiq rahi ho...
I think you better talk about food food and food, coz Ghamadi gaya tel lene, bus AAP Khane peene ki baat karo😅😅😅
دو عظیم شخصیات ، 😅 معاویہ بھی عظیم
Shia don't agree with that, but that's okay, I will not try to convince you
@HiraArif2023 Respected Mam Nobody Born To Convince To anyone But 70% Of Sunni's Also Can't Admire Mauvia. It's Good You Admire Him , this is giant universe Nobody Thinks same Like Others 60% People of World Thinks Isa (as) Is the Son of God, But Who Care's
Khoob good content, bas aram se baith kar baat karain, chakkar aa gaya.... 😂...bas hum in Molvion ki waja se cannot stop loving our religion. Alhamdulilah.... By the way here its too cold in Canada.... Ho sukta ha company ne unka damaad ki patai ki ho 😂
Comment karnay ka aur video like karnay ka buhat shukriya😊
after all every politician serve to the master (ISI) no matter what
in before 2018 election Imran khan polish the ISI boots and then become PM
now Sharif did that and become PM
so if you polish the boot of ISI you become PM
Why does anyone needs to polish the boot of ISI, that is what you need to think fellow ignorant Pakistani. Why this fironi army is controlling everything? This is a question every Pakistani should ask and struggle to get the freedom from this fironi army.
@@HiraArif2023 simple to gain power, wealth and influence
Wese ap sahi time ka use krti ho, Ghar k kaam b ho jatey hain and vlog b ho jata Hai, great idea
Thanks for your comment, busy life mai thora creative hona parhta hai😊
@HiraArif2023 sahi kaha, wese apki education kya Hai, Pakistan se whole education Hai, and city konsa Hai,
Hum koi gulam hai 😂😂😎
Akhir main bilkul saheeh misaal.
Rightly said
TBH mai yahan expose video daikhne aaya tha.. Par ye to political video nikli..
Ghamidi sahab politics main ghus rahay hain aur munafiqat kar rahay hain to is video main usi baat ko expose karoongi, na kay koi aur maslay. Pakistan ka sab se bara masla hi politics main fironi fauj ki interference hai. Baqi apko roasting videos dekhni hai to youtube bhara para hai.
السلام علیکم ڈئیر بہنا
نیٹ خراب ہے۔ جب آپکا ویڈیو ڈاون لوڈ ہو جائیگا تو پھر تبصرہ کرلوں گا۔
Lpc dallay
❤aap,ka,matlab,,ha,,forest,,me,,chaly,,jaeen❤
We always Admire Ghamdi sb. Yet is particular issue per aap chhah gayn.
Thanks for your comment 😊. Absolutely, I used to listen to him so much, but this is so disappointing.
@HiraArif2023 Javed Ghamidi sb is perhaps the greatest scholar of this era and we do not expect such unjustifiable remarks from him. Madam, You have a very attention-gaining way of expression. Keep doing.
At least, something good TH-cam boosting... 😊
Thanks for your comment 😊
Ghamdi sahb ko iss umer main aeysay apni beizzati karwanay ka kya showk sawar huwa hay, especially when he has been propagating sane logics for more than 40 years.
Thanks for your comment. Agreed!
Bajwa k time wali fauji achi the boht ab wali thk h kia bt h anti g jis mulak m ap hain us ke fikar krain tanshan sehat k lia achi nahi
Jis mulk MAI main hun usmai fironi army nahi hai, lakin jis mulk SE main hun wahan par fironi army hai aur masoom awam par zulm kar rahi hai, tu tension tu hogi, apko nahi hoti beta ? 😛
Yeh kesa vlog tha🤦
علماوں کوئی لفظ نہیں، علماء خود جمع کا سیغا ہے۔
Comment karnay ka aur urdu ki ghalti ki nishandahi ka shukriya 🙂
اپ غامدی صاحب کی ا , ب سے بھی قاصر ہیں معزرت ہوا ہیں
Comment karnay ka shukriya. G Bilkul Ghamidi Sahab ne apni zindagi ilm seekhnay par lagaye hai aur unkay pas knowledge ka samandar hai lakin is baat ki guarantee nahi ke koi ilm rakhnay wala kabhi gumrah nahi hosakta?
Ap is baat ko soochye ke kese aik insaan is fironi army jis ke khilaf unhun ne khud sari zindagi bataya achanak se army ki support mai bol raha hai?
کیا غامدی صاحب فوج کے حمایتی ہیں ؟؟؟👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻
th-cam.com/video/gdPhP8y1Xhc/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
Cry harder, your messiah is booked for another 14 years 😂
Cry harder! Imran khan is ready to spend rest of his life in prison rather than bowing down to this CIA supported fironi army😛
Ap Jahil hen. Kam knowledge hamesha nuksan dete hae. Apko Abhe Boht grow krny ke zarurt hae.
Thanks for your comment. Kindly aap bataeingay meri kin baton se apko lag raha hai k main jahil hoon?
Manage your dress first plz 😮😊
gad damn they really gotta take care of unemployment
Damn! Dude are you still unemployed and watching my videos? I don't think this will help you find a job😛
The content is not good at all. We should respect Islamic scholars as we are Muslims. This lady to immature to come to the level of delivering content.
Thanks for your comment. Are you saying my content is not good because I am criticising scholars? Do you think scholars are immune from being misguided?
Kindly understand and follow Quran ( Surah Taubah - 31 ) and stop worshipping your scholars.
You are wasting a lot of time.
If she wasting lot of time why you wasting your time?
@fauziaarif3467 I didn't. I am talking about my first 10 seconds. It's an honest review. When you pick up a topic as intellectual as it includes ghamidi, Imaran khan, and establishment, your audience is intelligencia. Get to the rational arguments and healthy debate as quickly as possible 🙏
Thanks for your comment. I understand your point. I make vlogging style videos in which I share my thoughts, opinions and facts. I can understand people who are only interested in listening the opinion on certain matter then there are many Pakistani youtubers who make talking head videos. I think you will be more interested in those kind of videos.
I personally want to explore this as an option as it allows me to be creative with video shooting and editing, I am not saying it's the best video style but this is something I want to try for now. I hope you will understand 😊
I clicked on your video expecting an unbiased critique of Ghamidi.
Instead, you’re just echoing a populist narrative that appeals to most Pakistanis. What they refuse to confront is how IK rose to power and the damage he’s inflicted on the economy and foreign policy. I hope you’re aware of the recent surge in terrorism and who the biggest supporters of these groups were.
I checked your comment expecting an unbiased critique of my arguments. Instead you are just echoing DG ISPR's narrative which appeals to most of fironi army supporters.
How Imran Khan rose to power? what damage he inflicted on economy and foreign policy? Aren't you aware that it was Bajwa who announced in 2021 in one of the meeting with journalists in ISI headquarters that Afghan Taliban has said that TTP should be resettled in Pakistan, and Afghan Taliban will help in negotiating the agreements between Pakistan Army and TTP. Pakistan army left with no options but to resettle them, but then Pakistan army broken the deal as they are deceivers by nature, and start murdering the ones who were more vocal. This is the reason of this recent surge in terrorism, this also helps this fironi army to create an enemy to keep justifying their terrible actions.
Where does Imran Khan fit in, in all this? No Prime Minister be it Imran Khan, Nawaz Sharif or Shahbaz Sharif has any say in majority of matters of Pakistan, it's this corrupt fironi army who makes all these terrible decisions.
So kindly open your brain, don't just mindlessly repeat DG ISPR's propaganda, thanks.
You don't have any logic in ur argument
Thanks for your comment, you need to prove that there's no logic in my argument. Without that your comment doesn't have any logic 😛
Beghrti ka duniya ma koi elaj ni 😮
Very illogical thoughts
Thanks for your comment. You will have to prove that how my thoughts are illogical, without that your comment is illogical 😛
I appreciate your perspective, but I respectfully disagree with your assessment of Mr. Javed Ahmed Ghamdi's stance on the TTP and the Kharijite comparison.
Firstly, Mr. Ghamdi’s analysis is rooted in Islamic principles, which emphasize the importance of justice, unity, and peace. When Mr. Ghamdi describes the TTP as being similar to the Kharijites, he is not aligning with any political agenda but pointing to the fundamental characteristics that make the TTP’s ideology extreme and violent, much like the early Kharijites. They declared other Muslims as non-believers, resorted to violent tactics, and rejected the authority of the state-core behaviors that have parallels with the TTP's actions.
Secondly, it is important to note that Mr. Ghamdi has never blindly supported the army. He has consistently spoken against any form of injustice, whether it’s from the military, the government, or any other institution. He has always called for an Islamic governance model based on ethics, not oppression or force. His statements about the TTP are based on Islamic jurisprudence and the historical context of the Kharijites, and not on any political loyalty.
Lastly, if we look at the core issue: the TTP’s violence against civilians, the army, and the Pakistani state cannot be justified under any legitimate interpretation of Islam. The role of any government or army is to maintain peace and order, which is also supported by Islamic principles. Criticizing Mr. Ghamdi for making this distinction between extremist groups and mainstream Muslims misrepresents his position and the reality of the situation.
In conclusion, Mr. Ghamdi’s view is not about supporting the army but about recognizing the Islamic duty to denounce violence and extremism. His stance on the TTP is a call to understand the threat they pose to peace and unity, both in Pakistan and within the broader Muslim community.
Making the comparison between Khawarij and TTP is intellectual dishonesty from Ghamdi. Khawarij emerged against the legitimate elected Khalifa Ali ra, where as TTP emerged as a result of various crimes and policies of Fironi army.
The biggest threat to Pakistani people, institutions, democracy, freedom, human rights is not from TTP but Fironi army.
Ghamidi has conveniently ignored the army’s oppression and massacres against the most popular political party of Pakistan. He will talk about peace and justice but will never specifically mention the injustices happening against the most popular leader and his party.
In conclusion Ghamdi is propagating what Fironi army wants Pakistani people to believe that this NAPAAK army is “PAAK” and TTP is the real enemy.
Plus I don’t think you have even watched his army support video, so either you are ignorant or as hypocrite as Ghamidi.
Your argument appears to be driven more by political allegiance than a fair assessment of facts and principles. While I respect your right to hold a differing opinion, I would like to address the points you’ve raised:
1. Khawarij vs. TTP Comparison:
Your claim that the comparison between the Khawarij and TTP is intellectual dishonesty ignores the core similarities between the two. Both reject legitimate authority (whether it be a Khalifa or a modern state), label other Muslims as non-believers, and resort to violence and rebellion to impose their ideology. The historical context may differ, but the ideological and behavioral parallels remain consistent. Mr. Ghamdi’s argument is rooted in Islamic principles, not in political propaganda.
2. Blaming the Army for TTP’s Emergence:
While the Pakistani army has undeniably played a controversial role in the country’s politics, the TTP’s actions cannot be justified or excused as merely a response to the army’s policies. The TTP has killed thousands of innocent civilians and targeted schools, mosques, and markets. This is not resistance-it is terrorism. Blaming the army for their barbaric actions oversimplifies the issue and excuses their extremism, which is deeply rooted in their ideology.
3. The Role of the Army in Politics:
You seem to overlook the fact that Imran Khan himself was brought to power with significant backing from the same army you criticize. Every major political leader in Pakistan’s history has been a product of the establishment to some extent, including Imran Khan. To now blame the army exclusively while absolving political leaders of their complicity is inconsistent.
4. Mr. Ghamdi’s Focus on Principles:
Accusing Mr. Ghamdi of hypocrisy because he hasn’t specifically mentioned injustices against your preferred political leader reflects a narrow and biased perspective. Mr. Ghamdi addresses broader principles of justice, peace, and morality without being swayed by partisan politics. His stance against extremism and violence is a principled one, not an endorsement of the army or any political entity. He has also criticized the military’s overreach in the past, disproving your claim of blind allegiance.
5. Emotional Bias in Your Argument:
It seems that your criticism of Mr. Ghamdi is influenced by a deep attachment to a political leader. This emotional bias is preventing you from objectively assessing his views. Instead of engaging with the substance of his arguments, you’ve chosen to discredit him by alleging hidden motives and aligning him with the army-a claim unsupported by evidence.
In conclusion, your argument conflates multiple issues-TTP’s extremism, the army’s role in politics, and injustices against a political party-without addressing each on its own merits. Mr. Ghamdi’s principled stance against extremism does not absolve the army of its misdeeds, but it does correctly identify the TTP as a significant threat to Pakistan’s peace and security.
I encourage you to engage with Mr. Ghamdi’s views more deeply and objectively rather than dismissing them due to political bias.
Your argument appears to be driven more by religious allegiance than a fair assessment of facts and principles.
1. Khawarij vs. TTP Comparison:
Your defence of Ghamidi ignores the core difference which is how and why these sects originated. To claim that their actions are like Khawarij is indeed intellectual dishonesty by hypocrite Ghamidi and the timing of the planted question and his opinion is reiterating ISPR’s propaganda. According to munafiq Ghamidi and you, current regime and fironi army are legitimate authorities, well that is the real question which munafiq Ghamidi need to address? Ghamidi’s argument is 100% rooted in political propaganda not in islamic principles at all.
2. Blaming the Army for TTP’s Emergence:
Again, completely ignoring the fact that why TTP originated in the first place, it is indeed intellectual dishonesty ignoring the root cause and focusing on the results of evil policies of fironi army. No one is justifying TTP’s actions, so stop playing this foolish army’s propaganda. Fironi army needed an enemy so people focus more on other things instead of army’s evil policies, and Ghamidi is doing ISPR’s job fantastically.
3. The Role of the Army in Politics:
That’s another false statement that Imran Khan is a product of army. Well even if he was, that doesn’t change the fact that army is controlling Pakistan and politicians are a product of this framework where fironi army is in control of everything. Plus even if Imran Khan was with army previously but NOW he isn’t, great leaders learn from their mistakes unlike Ghamidi who propagated against army all this time and all of a sudden became fironi army’s tout.
4. Mr. Ghamdi’s Focus on Principles:
Well he has specifically criticised Imran Khan multiple times which shows that he is on agenda to persuade people against Imran Khan, which shows Ghamidi’s prejudice.
5. Emotional Bias in Your Argument:
It seems your defence of Ghamidi’s evil statements is influenced by a deep attachment to a religious scholar. The emotional bias is preventing you from objectively assessing his evil views. Instead of understanding the timing, sudden change in his views and openly supporting dictatorship, you’ve chosen to support this munafiq by defending his baseless and evil statements.
Ghamidi’s propaganda of ISPR’s agenda is a terrible mistake, he either should accept it and come clean before preaching Islam.
I encourage you to stop being a fanboy of Ghamidi and look at his recent videos on army’s support and compare that with his previous views.