The judge’s monologue about the intangibility of the image of the traveler for his son, and the Anasazi existing in this world as mere phantoms to those that walk these lands today… That hit me really hard. It’s actually fucking tragic.
Honestly I think about this exact thought process on a nigh daily basis. It’s…a haunting idea. To be born into a world to a false idea of your progeny with impossible shoes to fill. It’s terrible
Over the past 15 years I’ve read BM five times and listened to this audio book twice now and still can’t seem to take it all in. I even have books about the book and listen to lectures about BM. It’s a novel I will always come back to for the brutal stark imagery and insights into the nature of man.
The birth of civilizations is predicated upon war and violence. Vestiges of this pierces our memory like razorwire so that any tale of murder is one we know and stirs some atavistic claim. A civilized nation is sculpted by the hands of Cain, those of his sons, through slaughter, as the Devil is their witness, and this repeated endless through the gyre of time, so that only rumors remain of their passing, remnants kicked over in wild fields, chalk-dry canyons, and curated in museums--lest we forget their names or where they lived. What is always remembered most in the building of nations is their acts of violence and war, such is the plight of Cain, his sons, and the daughters who lie with them.
"Until the judge raised his hand and called for amnesty and told them that Webster's feelings were of a different kind and not motivated by vanity at all and that he'd once drawn an old Hueco's portrait and unwittingly chained the man to his own likeness. For he could not sleep for fear an enemy might take it and deface it and so like was the portrait that he would not suffer it creased nor anything to touch it and he made a journey across the desert with it to where he'd heard the judge was to be found and he begged his counsel as to how he might preserve the thing and the judge took him deep into the mountains and they buried the portrait in the floor of a cave where it lies yet for aught the judge knew." This is the part where i started to doubt that the judge was human, he drew someone so well that they got obsessed with the portrait and looked for the judge again to somehow "undo" the portrait, by burrying it in a cave of which only the judge knows the location of. Webster then calls the old Hueco "a ignorant heathen savage", the judge agrees. What's interesting, is that not many pages later, the gang camps at the Hueco tanks, which contain caves adorned with paintings estimated to be around 6000 years old, and the judge is seen copying certain paintings in to his book, and then scraping those off the walls.
What if the book is the attempt of the Judge to create a portrait of the kid and that is why we cannot assert the kids personal identity despite being the ‘protagonist’ because he, regardless of the ending, actually beats the Judge, through being impossible for him to ‘sketch’ out properly.
Or, The kid, as a stand-in for the perspective of the audience, makes him an unreadable enigma to the judge. "Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent." Therefore, while the judge can see through the veil of the world he lives in, when he looks at the kid, all he sees is a sea of constantly churning chimeras because he sees the lives of all the people who read this book when he sees the kid.
I remember when I read this book for about the 5th Time. I used two think that Chapter 10, when Tobin begins to have a discussion with The Kid by firelight, was the best chapter I had read. That chapter just threw me for a loop, because of the density of it. But the one chapter that I always come back to, and that I hold extremely dear is right here-- Chapter 11. The setup for the parable, using the Delawares both a figurative, and a literal image is just too good to overlook. "They were men of another time, for all that they bore Christian names, and they had lived all their lives in the wilderness, as had their fathers before them. They learned War, by Warring. The generations driven from the Eastern Shores, across the continent. From the ashes at Gnadenhutten, on to the prairies across the outlet, to the blood lands of the west. If much of the world were mystery, the limits of that world were not. For it was without measure or bound, and there were contained in it creatures more horrible yet, and men of other colors and beings that no man had ever looked upon. And yet not alien, none of more than were it alien their own hearts within them. Whatever wilderness contained there, and whatever beasts." ......
@@LittlePiggy-p3f Absolutely. If you are just starting out reading, I would do the following. Unplug from your life for a bit. Meaning, leave your phone on silent, all notifications off. This is your time to connect with your mind, and heart in a healthy and educational manner. Remember what makes up the practice and action of “reading” is you making a commitment to dive into something that will challenge, expand and enlighten your mind. Find you a good, quiet place. This can be in a chair upstairs, or my personal favorite outside underneath one of my trees. This is your time to disconnect from the world for a bit. Reading is not a “passive” action, but rather one that requires your full imagination. Perhaps start with a book that is straight forward. For McCarthy, I would recommend something like “The Road” which is really a very direct and fluid read. Never be afraid to read out loud. Recite paragraphs and lines multiple times. Is there a certain word that was used, like “euchared?” Look it up, see if you can add it into your vocabulary. Reading out loud to yourself is a lot of fun, it helps hone in your comprehension, oral, and listening skills. Things that, in today’s world can help make you alot of money- I promise you that. If you have never read the classics like Faulkner, Melville, Prost, etc. that’s a different level of commitment that can be discouraging due to writing styles and density. Audiobooks are a drastically different “read” than physical books. Keep that in mind. I would also recommend you buy physical copies. Reading on an iPad, kindle, etc. allows for too many bad habits. Especially before bedtime. Leave them be. Last but not least, learn to love it. Much like running, weight lifting, dieting, etc. Reading is food for your brain, your heart, your worldview and most importantly, your mental health. It is not a chore, think of it as a reward. One that you owe to yourself.
I’ve come to the conclusion that that said traveler is the judges father he himself euchred of being a “righteous” man.He resented his death as weakness and resisted his dark nature for a time unable to reconcile it haven’t also been cheated out of a father he only heard of in tales.He dances in light and shadows, he wants knowledge of both in his eyes what man what have it any other way.
What does it mean "the father dead has euchred the son out of his patrimony, for it is the death of the father to which the son is entitled and to which he is heir more so than his goods"? And why do I feel like this story, while also symbolic of the kid, is actually not just about the Anasazi and about mankind, but an origin story about the judge himself? So layered!
It means that the son is cheated of truly knowing the man, that he lives with a false legend of who his father was, and his development as a person will suffer as a result. There are broader analogies in play here, but this is the meaning. And Euchre is a card game of taking tricks.
@@malelefonoimoana2925 It's his lot in life to see his father die an old man and take his place, which is the natural cycle of things. The son has been robbed of this.
@@malelefonoimoana2925 If I can add a little, although you probably figured out already, it also means that children are entitled to see their father fail. It's not just about death, it's about seeing your father as more than a legend, but as a human being of flesh and blood, much like you are.
It will take some brave director to adapt BM into a movie and do it justice. Coens could def do it but the studios wow that would be hard. They need to understand its not violence for violence sake but beautiful violence and a harrowing story and some insanly unique dialogue and characters. Hope it happens. Unfilmable? No novel is i think.
James Franco attempted but failed to secure the rights to the novel. He got as far as 30 mins worth of test footage, but ultimately had to shelve the project.
Is the traveler story related to the young boy "the man" kills before walking into the final bar for his reunion with the judge? I remember one of the boy's friends says after he's been shot something to the effect of, "it's not his fault he's crazy mister, his father was hit over the head by a maniac and buried in the woods." I couldn't help but make that connection considering it ends the penultimate scene, providing some sense of closure before the final confrontation with the judge. Does anybody know if the two were meant to be connected, or just a coincidence?
"What is true of one man is true of many." - The gang all claim to have heard some variation of the story of the traveller and the harness-maker so I guess McCarthy's highlighting this point again near the end of the story.
The casting of The Judge would be quite difficult, this story is a perfect example of why, but I think there are couple who could do this justice: - Jesse Plemons - Vincent D'nofrio - David Thewlis - Adam Driver
I've been picturing him as the late musician and actor Wilko Johnson. He played an executioner in GoT but unfortunately passed away not too long ago. I don't know if he'd have had the performance chops but I reckon he would have looked perfect for the Judge.
The judge’s monologue about the intangibility of the image of the traveler for his son, and the Anasazi existing in this world as mere phantoms to those that walk these lands today…
That hit me really hard. It’s actually fucking tragic.
Honestly I think about this exact thought process on a nigh daily basis. It’s…a haunting idea. To be born into a world to a false idea of your progeny with impossible shoes to fill. It’s terrible
It's a warning, "Do you not think it will be again? Aye, and _again_ with other people, with _other_ sons."
I also think it might have overtones of Christianitys effects on mankind over a millennia and how it shapes our basic faculties
“He was a shoemaker, and he was cleared of them charges!”
😂😂
Always makes me laugh haha
"That was my brother in that casket. He was a minstrel dancer out of Cincinnati, Ohio. Was shot to death over a woman." -- Black Jackson
In Tony Sopranos voice 😂
“And the noon of his expression signals the onset of night”
Bro, where is this art from. This is the best depiction of the best scene in the book I've ever seen.
The artist is Deimos R. Emus
Hi, Judge 👋
I’d love to make some charcoal images in this vein. Very great work indeed. I can see every judge speech here.
It’s so black metal I love it
Looks like an old Black Sabbath album
Over the past 15 years I’ve read BM five times and listened to this audio book twice now and still can’t seem to take it all in. I even have books about the book and listen to lectures about BM. It’s a novel I will always come back to for the brutal stark imagery and insights into the nature of man.
It is truly fantastic. May it live on forever.
Yeah its the same for me. Fits the theme of the book though.
I will probably listen to the audiobook soon.
The birth of civilizations is predicated upon war and violence. Vestiges of this pierces our memory like razorwire so that any tale of murder is one we know and stirs some atavistic claim. A civilized nation is sculpted by the hands of Cain, those of his sons, through slaughter, as the Devil is their witness, and this repeated endless through the gyre of time, so that only rumors remain of their passing, remnants kicked over in wild fields, chalk-dry canyons, and curated in museums--lest we forget their names or where they lived. What is always remembered most in the building of nations is their acts of violence and war, such is the plight of Cain, his sons, and the daughters who lie with them.
And by the same token the nature of Manifest Destiny.
Man oh man. That fella can write
McCarthy is truly the heir of Melville, also taking inspiration from Milton and the King James Bible.
Marty reference
"an economy of strokes"
good god what a way with words
Did you make a mess in your pants
yes @@oo-ru5lt
@@oo-ru5lt i couldnt even edge to this
Glazing
For some reason I found this side-story more depressing than the actual Blood Meridian story.
I think what impressed me the most about this book was having to look up older words that are no longer part of the common vernacular.
Vernacular ☝🤓
@@MildlyHumorous-cq1nn
Im a Mathematical Linguist, you also used heiroglyphs; ☝🤓️.
The artwork is so fucking good
I only recently read "Reflections" by R. S. Thomas, and suddenly the fear or portraiture takes on a whole new light.
please allow me to introduce myself im a man of wealth and taste
"Until the judge raised his hand and
called for amnesty and told them that Webster's feelings were of a different kind and
not motivated by vanity at all and that he'd once drawn an old Hueco's portrait and
unwittingly chained the man to his own likeness. For he could not sleep for fear an
enemy might take it and deface it and so like was the portrait that he would not suffer
it creased nor anything to touch it and he made a journey across the desert with it to
where he'd heard the judge was to be found and he begged his counsel as to how he
might preserve the thing and the judge took him deep into the mountains and they buried the portrait in the floor of a cave where it lies yet for aught the judge knew."
This is the part where i started to doubt that the judge was human, he drew someone so well that they got obsessed with the portrait and looked for the judge again to somehow "undo" the portrait, by burrying it in a cave of which only the judge knows the location of. Webster then calls the old Hueco "a ignorant heathen savage", the judge agrees. What's interesting, is that not many pages later, the gang camps at the Hueco tanks, which contain caves adorned with paintings estimated to be around 6000 years old, and the judge is seen copying certain paintings in to his book, and then scraping those off the walls.
This is some old testament shit!
All progressions from a higher to a lower order are marked by ruins and mystery and a residue of nameless rage.
I tried 'raising my hand calling for amnesty' at work one time. It did not work...
Did you try delivering a treatise on war?
Tough crowd.
@@dragonsmith9012Might work if I was 7ft tall and 300ish pounds. 'That great, hairless thing'
And on that day one man’s Amazon Prime Delivery was delayed beyond the original estimate. -CM.
Did you try being an eight foot tall vampire baby?
What if the book is the attempt of the Judge to create a portrait of the kid and that is why we cannot assert the kids personal identity despite being the ‘protagonist’ because he, regardless of the ending, actually beats the Judge, through being impossible for him to ‘sketch’ out properly.
Okay. Hats off to you.
wow. just. wow
Bingo boy-o
Or, The kid, as a stand-in for the perspective of the audience, makes him an unreadable enigma to the judge.
"Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent."
Therefore, while the judge can see through the veil of the world he lives in, when he looks at the kid, all he sees is a sea of constantly churning chimeras because he sees the lives of all the people who read this book when he sees the kid.
I remember when I read this book for about the 5th Time. I used two think that Chapter 10, when Tobin begins to have a discussion with The Kid by firelight, was the best chapter I had read. That chapter just threw me for a loop, because of the density of it. But the one chapter that I always come back to, and that I hold extremely dear is right here-- Chapter 11. The setup for the parable, using the Delawares both a figurative, and a literal image is just too good to overlook.
"They were men of another time, for all that they bore Christian names, and they had lived all their lives in the wilderness, as had their fathers before them. They learned War, by Warring. The generations driven from the Eastern Shores, across the continent. From the ashes at Gnadenhutten, on to the prairies across the outlet, to the blood lands of the west. If much of the world were mystery, the limits of that world were not. For it was without measure or bound, and there were contained in it creatures more horrible yet, and men of other colors and beings that no man had ever looked upon. And yet not alien, none of more than were it alien their own hearts within them. Whatever wilderness contained there, and whatever beasts."
......
I want to start reading, do you have any tips to enjoy the act of reading?
@@LittlePiggy-p3f Absolutely. If you are just starting out reading, I would do the following.
Unplug from your life for a bit. Meaning, leave your phone on silent, all notifications off. This is your time to connect with your mind, and heart in a healthy and educational manner. Remember what makes up the practice and action of “reading” is you making a commitment to dive into something that will challenge, expand and enlighten your mind.
Find you a good, quiet place. This can be in a chair upstairs, or my personal favorite outside underneath one of my trees. This is your time to disconnect from the world for a bit. Reading is not a “passive” action, but rather one that requires your full imagination.
Perhaps start with a book that is straight forward. For McCarthy, I would recommend something like “The Road” which is really a very direct and fluid read.
Never be afraid to read out loud. Recite paragraphs and lines multiple times. Is there a certain word that was used, like “euchared?” Look it up, see if you can add it into your vocabulary. Reading out loud to yourself is a lot of fun, it helps hone in your comprehension, oral, and listening skills. Things that, in today’s world can help make you alot of money- I promise you that.
If you have never read the classics like Faulkner, Melville, Prost, etc. that’s a different level of commitment that can be discouraging due to writing styles and density.
Audiobooks are a drastically different “read” than physical books. Keep that in mind. I would also recommend you buy physical copies. Reading on an iPad, kindle, etc. allows for too many bad habits. Especially before bedtime. Leave them be.
Last but not least, learn to love it. Much like running, weight lifting, dieting, etc. Reading is food for your brain, your heart, your worldview and most importantly, your mental health. It is not a chore, think of it as a reward. One that you owe to yourself.
@@LittlePiggy-p3floser
I’ve come to the conclusion that that said traveler is the judges father he himself euchred of being a “righteous” man.He resented his death as weakness and resisted his dark nature for a time unable to reconcile it haven’t also been cheated out of a father he only heard of in tales.He dances in light and shadows, he wants knowledge of both in his eyes what man what have it any other way.
Thank you for this!!!
What does it mean "the father dead has euchred the son out of his patrimony, for it is the death of the father to which the son is entitled and to which he is heir more so than his goods"? And why do I feel like this story, while also symbolic of the kid, is actually not just about the Anasazi and about mankind, but an origin story about the judge himself? So layered!
It means that the son is cheated of truly knowing the man, that he lives with a false legend of who his father was, and his development as a person will suffer as a result. There are broader analogies in play here, but this is the meaning. And Euchre is a card game of taking tricks.
@@hellbenderdesign What does “it is the death of the father to which the son is entitled and to which he is heir”?
@@malelefonoimoana2925 It's his lot in life to see his father die an old man and take his place, which is the natural cycle of things. The son has been robbed of this.
@@bezenby9804 Oooh, the natural death of the father. That makes sense to me. Thanks.
@@malelefonoimoana2925 If I can add a little, although you probably figured out already, it also means that children are entitled to see their father fail. It's not just about death, it's about seeing your father as more than a legend, but as a human being of flesh and blood, much like you are.
Bears that dance, bears that don’t…
It will take some brave director to adapt BM into a movie and do it justice. Coens could def do it but the studios wow that would be hard. They need to understand its not violence for violence sake but beautiful violence and a harrowing story and some insanly unique dialogue and characters. Hope it happens. Unfilmable? No novel is i think.
John Hillcoat might pull it off, with the Coen Brothers backing him to keep it honest. Casting could be difficult. I would like to see it!
A miniseries. 8 episodes should do it.
The Coens are a possibility, someone elsewhere on TH-cam mentioned Paul W S Anderson which is another possibility.
Lynn Ramsay has the talent for it. You Were Never Really Here makes me believe she can do it.
James Franco attempted but failed to secure the rights to the novel. He got as far as 30 mins worth of test footage, but ultimately had to shelve the project.
open two youtube tabs, have one play this video have the other play a campfire sound effect. Youre welcome
The more I read blood meridian the more i realize that adapting it into a movie would never work
Just use the book as the script i say... that is possible i think
Is the traveler story related to the young boy "the man" kills before walking into the final bar for his reunion with the judge? I remember one of the boy's friends says after he's been shot something to the effect of, "it's not his fault he's crazy mister, his father was hit over the head by a maniac and buried in the woods." I couldn't help but make that connection considering it ends the penultimate scene, providing some sense of closure before the final confrontation with the judge. Does anybody know if the two were meant to be connected, or just a coincidence?
"What is true of one man is true of many." - The gang all claim to have heard some variation of the story of the traveller and the harness-maker so I guess McCarthy's highlighting this point again near the end of the story.
I wondered the same
Marlon Brando would have made a good Judge
Nice story - had me nut!
I love i love i love fapping to books
Lol
You're so cool and funneh
The casting of The Judge would be quite difficult, this story is a perfect example of why, but I think there are couple who could do this justice:
- Jesse Plemons
- Vincent D'nofrio
- David Thewlis
- Adam Driver
I've been picturing him as the late musician and actor Wilko Johnson. He played an executioner in GoT but unfortunately passed away not too long ago.
I don't know if he'd have had the performance chops but I reckon he would have looked perfect for the Judge.
Danny Huston will be a probable & good choice I think. He rocked it in “the proposition” also directed by hillcoat
All in vain...
Shut up Judge.
bruh. you clicked on this video.
@@gabrielarruda4083 Shut up you.
9:16 a what 😮 😮
This book takes place in the South Western US in the 1840s. This kind of language was common place.
@@gabrielarruda4083 still is pretty common with ER
@@gabrielarruda4083 still is pretty common
@@gabrielarruda4083 still pretty common
@@thegoatslayer7403 not with the hard R.