Intercept Exposé on How SEAL Team 6 Killed Osama Bin Laden, "Canoeing" & Other Atrocities
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- democracynow.org - We continue our conversation with reporter Matthew Cole about his stunning new exposé published this week in The Intercept about the elite military unit SEAL Team 6 reveals a darker side of the group best known for killing Osama bin Laden. National security reporter Matthew Cole spent two years investigating accounts of ghastly atrocities committed by members of the unit, including mutilating corpses, skinnings and attempted beheadings. According to sources, senior command staff were aware of the misconduct but did little to stop it-and often helped to cover it up.
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Thanks to seal team 6 for doing what needed to be done!!!
Bullet Jones I hope you feel the same way if a country sends in armed forces to take out Trump, Clinton, Bush, Rumsfeld etc 🤔.
There are probably plenty of people outside of the USA that feel that something "needs to be done", with regards to them. 😒
1Flyingfist unfortunately for those people, our leaders aren’t holed up in rusted compounds in shitholes
I'm sure they did kill anyone all fake . Keep believing the lies sheep.
Tell that to Linda Norgrove, her family, and MI6.
Really they made sure binladin didn't talk. I sure would have loved to hear what he had to say
"Canoeing" is an atrocity? No, it's just shooting a legit target in the head in particular way - they are dead either way. I don't really care. The sober truth is this. War is horrific and it's a racket. It turns men into monsters who have to fight it. It's not too far a stretch to say these men were responding to the viciousness they encountered from the enemy and sought to terrorize them in return. My understanding is that several U.S. SF units had this reputation in Afghanistan and Iraq, and it was helpful to us. The real issue is how we prosecuted the war in Afghanistan and going to Iraq at all.
do you care if the taliban behead or castrate us soldiers when they are already dead?
if the answer is yes, then you are just hypocritical and not different than them
Civilians never understood soldiers and war reality, and nowadays when most Western men are weak emotional cucks, it's even more prevalent. Soon they will cry about soldiers shooting at all
"You need to have drama when you're selling a myth". Yep..could apply to you, too.
i imagine the US gov would have wanted Bin Laden dead asap rather than bring to a trial - Bin Laden surely would have said too much about Saudi Arabias involvement in supporting terrorism and it would have been too problematic a position for the US to be in
I imagine that Hillary's missing 2 million emails on an illegal server doesn't both you, huh? Do you have any pictures of them doing it? Didn't think so!!!!
@@dirtbagtrooper Are you still beating that dead horse?
R u a paid shill? Lmao more like would have said too much about direct cooperation with U.S. intelligence services as well as Pakistan's
You're absolutely right. Can you imagine the circus a trial would have been?
What are you talking about? It was never a capture mission. It was a kill mission to begin with.
They are flying at night in helicopters over one of the maddest most hostile places on Earth. Once there, to do personal, face to face battle with the guys that do the beheadings, brought down the towers, throw gays from roofs, full body bag their women, shoot cartoonists, blow up kids concerts....Need I go on?
The most motivated evil on earth.
I'm an armed police officer, but I can only play defence. We need someone on offence, ffs.
Who do you want to send..?
TH-cam journalists?
You Americans own these calm professional maniac Rottweilers. They are a national resource. Just train em, aim em, and let 'em go!
....on a long leash...
fiacmar Amen!
Or you know, just don't fuck up half the continent? So you don't even need those monsters a couple of decades later?
I like this one... But I think you got some dip spit in you beard.
Seals ans Special forces often kill civilians too. We're still allied with Saudi Arabia and they throw gays off roofs too.
CrimsonKnight the word often means that you think they kill civilians at at least one out of three people that they put down. seals do not go in and just shoot up the whole place no matter who's there. there are acceptable civilian casualties in War it's inevitable but for the u.s. they were telling the tier 2 and Tier 1 operators that they must not go over something like half a percent so that means that there must not be any collateral damage or civilians killed more than one out of every 200 combatants killed. if you think that these guys or any military force can go into a dangerous Battlefield and not kill one civilian the whole time you've never served. let me ask you this say it's 1939 Hitler just invaded Poland save for some reason you were able to make a predator drone at that time. You have a lock on Hitler but he's adding meeting with his girlfriend his niece a few friends that are part of the war effort and a few other civilians along with all of his high command. You can drop a 2000 lb jdam and destroy the whole building and kill everybody in it, do you let that bomb go? I'm assuming you would say yes so you do agree that sometimes collateral damage and civilian deaths are inevitable. This isn't World War II anymore where both sides do daily Air Raids on the population centers of the enemies countries. it's not like the u.s. is going in with B-52 bombers loaded up and just bombing anything that has movement. look how the Russians fought the Afghanistan war when they were there. they were shooting anything on site that wasn't in the Communist capital. they got shot at with a missile and a helicopter went down they brought in an Armored Division to go into that Village and kill everything and blow up everything that's there. The u.s. brings in troops to do searches of every single house to find who has those types of weapons if the same thing were to happen. Those troops would only fire if they're being fired upon since that's what Obama's Roe was through most of his administration. If you don't understand War or how it's fine., how it's been fought in the past and how much restraint us uses you're just not going to see the bigger picture and not understand anything. Name me another country in the Modern Age that has had military tribunals Four soldiers that went AWOL and killed civilians on purpose. the u.s. is the only one I can think of. Remember that one guy that went off base went into a village and killed like 15 civilians he was tried and found guilty and he's going to spend the rest of his life in prison. if that was a Chinese or Russian or Pakistani or any other Soldier that would have just been covered up. You know why you don't hear of any of the atrocities that those few Russians that are on the ground in Syria do? It's because they don't have a free press over there they don't have a Freedom of Information Act Like We Do the Russian say there's no paperwork because it didn't happen they deny it the US has a free press so if something bad happens it gets put out for the whole world to see.
“No noise, suppressed weapons are very quiet.”
Helicopter crashed, there was a fire fight, and also suppressed weapons are not that quiet. There would have been plenty of noise.
Not gonna lose any sleep over how he died.
When a high power rifle round hits the head, hydraulic pressure causes the skull to split open.
Being in a warzone is a major emotional event
Especially when we send sociopaths and psychopath to fight them. Not let me also include I don't care if we torture bad guys. But when we act that way it our guys get operators syndrome it's not good for us.
you dont say.....
yet the majory doesnt have to act like an isis terrorist
its a few who are doing wrong
Sometimes the public shoud not ask questions that have answers they/we are not willing to stomach. War is waged by humans, humans are emotional, and at some point in time, emotions will bring out the worst of any of us. I'm not condoning Seal Team 6 actions, but I understand them.
Rubbish. This is a slap in the face of vast majority of those who didn't. The underlying issue is that the incidents were covered up to protect the command.....
If you follow this stuff, other former tier 1 operators say that there are some guys who are legitimate psychopaths in there that literally joined for the chance to kill people. It’s like condoned serial killing. The idea that someone like that was on that mission is not that far fetched.
These guys are also selected and trained on their ability to stay calm in combat because you make better tactical decisions while calm. So the idea that any of THE most elite operators we have succumbed to the heat of the moment actually seems more far fetched in my opinion.
@@colintainter4856 Agree. Unfortunately, over time it is just another day at the office. Hence training and leadership are critical to maintain focus and compass.
yep...... i like Dem Now, but it makes me cringe to see this reporter complain about the military that makes her political show possible........ this video only has 135k views in 6 years, obviously no one agrees with this interview..........
The military has to follow rules like anyone else. You sound like a dipshit
I love how this fucking broad and beta male pos shit talk heros that provide protection and freedom these two people are an absolute disgrace they are to journalism what Dr. Seuss is to medicine
Since when is DEVGRU called The President's Own lmao?
It’s not
Obama always claimed that he caught Bin Laden
Kudos to DN for highlighting this, but there's an inherent problem with stories like this. They almost always seem to want to make these things out to be notable. They make beheadings and "canoeings" out to be somehow outside of the norm. This is what war is, and I don't say that as a peacenik. War murders children, burns civilians alive, it always has collateral damage, and sometimes that collateral damage is justified. Let's be sure to put the blame for the horrors of war on those that start the wars. The people who created the situations where people did this. The people who hide in offices and lie to everyone about what war is.
We had an opportunity to get Bin Laden under Bush. I haven't been able to go back and find the stories but at one point, maybe at Tora Bora, we had Bin Laden cornered, and then shortly after that moved troops away from where Bin Laden was and into Iraq, and he subsequently got away. Forgive the conspiratorialness, but I think he was going to say things that would embarrass the US government, and we didn't want him brought in alive. One of the areas where President Obama disappointed me was in his unwillingness to hold the prior administration accountable for their actions. It's very likely that Bin Laden would have shed a great deal of light on the last 35 years of US-Saudi relations had he been captured alive.
We need to hold the people who actually cause these situations accountable.
Agree. Let's start with Israel, where collective punishment, torture, house destruction (along with de facto apartheid) are the order of the day. He's trying to make an issue over shot placement that has the goal of rendering a potential militant unable to click off a vest or pull a pin on a grenade? "Canoeing?" Seems more like good and surgical shot placement to avoid any further hostile actions from the target. Are any shots to the head unacceptable in Mr.Cole's world? To the face? If he were kidnapped and threatened with beheading, I somehow think his qualms about " well-grouped shots as a war crime" would dissipate very quickly.
You're actually missing my point which is to stop these things before they begin. We should expect our leaders to not start wars that don't justify the killing of innocents and children. That's the inescapable result of going to war. We have a myth where only brave soldiers die during a war, but it's a myth. War kills children. We should own that every time we go to war.
No Way I agree buddy applying peace time normal morality to a war time situation is not realistic, these acts have been done in every war ever fought.
Sobululu war is a crime in all its Guise's.
I spent some time researching the Battle of Robert's Ridge, part of Operation Anaconda, including watching first hand accounts from people who fought in the battle and to me it seems like overwhelming examples of bravery, heroism and people who truly cared about their fellow man.
Except for how the Navy and SEALs treated Chapman when he was considered for an upgrade to the Congressional Medal of Honor for fighting and dying on that ridge.
Except the Seals left a guy there to die and then tried to lie about it.however, it was a combat controller ( Air force spec ops) and Airforce had drone footage u can watch online showing what really happened.
@Obersturmführer Klein Those are some strong words…. I’m sure you would have been successful in all the parts they weren’t.
What you mean to say is that you spent time reading and watching propaganda material designed to make trained psychopathic killers (not an insult: only certain kinds of people can join "elite" teams such as these) look like heroes. You could equally have been born - via accident of birth - in a Pashtun village and heard stories of heroic Taliban units who bravely took on American occupiers, whilst caring deeply for their tribe.
You are falling for the propaganda line of the military industrial complex and the endless war required to keep global capitalism afloat via military contracts, arms deals and the like, and it is pathetic, for lack of a better word.
@Slayer23The first rule of combat medicine is to “win the gun fight”.. There were only six operators on that Mako 30 team. Neil Roberts was KIA, Chapman had gone down was out of the fight for some time before he regained consciousness. The SEAL 60 gunner named Steven Topaz had his leg completely ripped apart my enemy belt fed 7.62 and was bleeding to death. The other 3 operators are loaded out with less then 6 mags of 5.56, 2 hand grenades and were then losing the advantage as the sun was slowing coming up. (One of the biggest advantages this team had was the cover of darkness and their NVGs). Now that’s gone, and the enemy has the high ground with superior fire power and have food and water to sustain that fighting position.
You’re damn right that SEAL Officer got off that mountain and saved what was left his team.. That was the RIGHT call
Hahahaha you've never heard a suppressed weapon. They're loud as balls! They're in the hearing safe level but they're not quiet at all lmao
Im not in the military yet but from the research I've done NSW and JSOC has been issuing silencers or suppressors developed by AAC since 2008 I believe. Those cans suppress rifles to roughly 130 DB (decibels) ever since like 2012 they have been issued to tier 2 units likes Special Forces Navy SEALs ect
@@crimsonking4151 so do you think 130 db is quiet? it is quiet enough to here the gun cycle but it is not quiet.
@@charleswittmer2477 It is if you use sub-sonic.
130 dB would be pretty loud at night in a house/indoors. Even if the bullet was silent you would hear the gun cycling very loudly
This story about the British female that was killed accidentally is almost a mirror image of what happened to Pat Tillman! I will ad right down to the cover-up by our government and our military!
No it does not. The Tillman incident was totally different.
I caught that also
From my research the Pat Tillman story is much worse. Being repeatedly shot at by your own fellow soldiers while you're screaming to them you're a friendly, in my opinion is worse than just having a grenade land next to you that shouldn't have ever been thrown
Why does it matter whether OBL was armed or unarmed? If he was responsible for so many atrocities then why is there an issue with the way he was killed?
There is something called as trial. Civilized nations have those, yes even for people who did terrible things. Makes them better than those who don't. Makes them stand above said terrible people.
Good to know were the "western" world stands.
Christopher Walker that wasn’t the point of what he was saying. He did say he was going to die no matter what. He is trying to say how blown out of proportion the story is and to make themselves sound like heros
i think the point is the lies. I dont even really believe they got OBL because theres no photos + the supposed disfigurement.
You don't think American interference and assalts on his people might have something to do with it?
We were about to drop a bomb on the compound?
a lot of folks miss the point...its not about the violence or killing...we understand that is part of war and especially targeting leaders of a terrorist group. The problem is the SEAL's declining organizational culture and the Navy's failures to correct those problems. You cant have the elite special forces group rife with discipline problems, war crimes, and self-promotion/monetization of their active duty deeds.
This dude should be ashamed of himself. These people he is making demons out of fight for him to have this freedom
Love how easy it is to be a Monday morning QB and just report on the negative!!!
Yeah a seal probably fucked this guys wife
Not only that he is a piece of crap
we have to otherwise we wouldnt be any different
They didnt want him tried or jailed, too many variables and he becomes a martyr to be avenged by all his followers. He had to be killed, there had to be proof and his body had to be permanently disposed of, all of which happened.
Democracy Now sure is concerned about the well-being of Osama Bin Laden.
Like the fact or not,
he was a living human being.
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That's how a typical 5th grader would see this. A slightly more advanced mature adult would see a concern for power abuses and international law violations.
I actually haven't got that impression, however I do feel that US military and government can kill, torture and occupy whoever they want, regardless of international laws or ever hold accountable for their actions..at a same time preaching democracy all over the world
噢馬 ya so were the 3000 Americans killed on 9/11, so were his wives before he used them as human shields. What’s your point?
We have to hold ourselves to a higher standard of morality or we are no better than those we are fighting against. Highlighting war crimes is not always a bad thing for our military, in many cases it helps bring about top down change. Not addressing professional misconduct issues in the field will only hurt honorable SEALs both currently serving and retired, which is the overwhelming majority of them.
Too bad President Trump wasn’t an office he would have released the photos… to prove that we did really get him
These guys put their lives on the line and are on missions that are kill or killed . These missions will mess with the mind so bad and these guys see and deal with death every trip down wire. Osama got what was coming to him. The people who jumped to their death out the towers the firemen lossed. The passengers on the planes. What did you want us to do with him. You put him jail or on trial and then you all the terrorists come out of the wood work. This guy needs to keep his mouth shut. I don't get what he gets out this but put our guys at more risks. Now we know why they have a code if silence good or bad. Osama is dead. Thank you Seals!
No it was not murder. It was taking out of the clearer of a terrorist organization we are at war with.
I don’t feel sorry for bin Laden. Assuming arguendo, are we to believe bin Laden heard nothing? He could t hear the helicopters? He couldn’t hear the ST6 inside? Come on. I know that those that lean towards cynicism of anything the government does want to criticize this raid. But there’s nothing to criticize in my opinion.
If they don’t like the story, don’t buy the book. I haven’t. Bin Laden is dead and the general story is public. Quibbling over who did what is semantics. It’s not like they floated in on a cloud.
Keeping bin Laden alive would be to much trouble geopolitically. It’s best to start and end the operation that night.
Maybe I’ll get on the cynical rollercoaster when democracy now airs even one show that doesn’t attack the government for anything and everything they do. Btw, I don’t think the government is above reproach. But any channel that thinks the 60s never ended and attacks the government all the time should be looked at for what it is….a biased news channel that may stumble on elements of the truth sometimes AND amplifies discord without objectivity all the time.
Re-posting from part 1: It is worrying to see so many apologists for this kind of unnecessary violence. Hypocrisy amongst so-called "freedom loving" people is astounding - the very same people who will defend these psychopaths as merely conducting acts of warfare will be the first to condemn a Talib for doing the same to an enemy of theirs. Also, by calling these kinds of soldiers psychopaths, I am not insulting them: these are fighters who are chosen precisely for their capacity for enacting this kind of violence without mercy, a universal truth regarding all such "elite units", many of whom will go into the private sector as brutal mercenaries.
A good book on such a private unit is 'Keenie Meenie: The British Mercenaries who Got Away with War Crimes' by Phil Miller. These were mostly ex-SAS (an infamous British elite unit) fighters that utterly brutalised people all over the world, where people were fighting against the dying British Empire for their own liberation. Nowadays, such soldiers will go onto service the interests of the American Empire, and most people will have no idea where they are or what they are doing, but as this book and others show, governments have a pretty good idea but will always turn a blind eye.
It is all well and good to try and justify these killers under the illusion that they are keeping you safe, but history tells us a few things: One is that countries, nations and lands that have been exploited by colonialism, attempted to free themselves and have either done so, thus becoming enemies of western imperialism or have sold-out, and allowed themselves to become puppet-regimes of the very same imperialist core, all have something in common: they are powder kegs, almost constantly at war, sometimes invaded by the west, sometimes fighting amongst themselves (including within their own borders) or being brutalised by economic warfare via tactics such as sanctions. Fun fact: the sanctions placed against Iraq from the early 90s up until the ultimate US-led invasion killed more people than Saddam Hussein's regime did. And what is Iraq now, except for a failed state, fighting amongst itself along sectarian lines?
Another thing is that, when the interests of the powerful are threatened, these very units may be unleashed upon the people of the nation they are supposed to protect. The aforementioned SAS committed atrocities in the British occupied part of Ireland, for just one example, but throughout history you will find many examples, all across the globe. The most pertinent to us comes as a part of the question of the looming threat of fascism. History shows us that those guns may well be turned against the people when the ruling class is in trouble. Americans love their guns: what do you think they are for? They are to protect you from being skinned alive by the forces of reaction - the men who kill without mercy and are always and forever "only following orders".
where did he get this information?
He tells you in the video.
No he doesn't
Fake news.
this is what lil info we hear going on imagen thr stories trough out the middle east of the crimes we committed i can only imagen
All needed here is a huge THANK YOU to our secret warriors for doing the ugly shit that you don't have the stomach for.
How on earth does this guy feel as if he is justified to say how the most elite force of the Joint special forces operation's command does their job. Was he there? Was he placed in a life or death decision? And how on Earth is this guy going to act like the terrorists these men are killing are unarmed prisoners that have done nothing wrong. They are killing savages that have had countless atrocities against innocent people. Nothing he says has any level of credibility due to lack of factual evidence. I guess where I am getting act is even if these claims are true, mutiliation of a corpse may be an illegal war crime, but how is it anymore unethical to shoot the guy from order (probably from the president) if they are already dead....it'd be one thing if they are alive, but every account he mentions they are dead.
Vince K you forget
There are so many things wrong with what you said. You can't mutilate a body just because its dead or terrorist or both. you are a world class moron and do not belong in civilized society please go live in shit holes like Kandahar. People like you do not belong in America.
They’re not “the most elite”
RIGHT YOU ARE VINCE THE NAVY SEALS ARE THE BEST OF THE BEST AND MATT COLE SHOULD SHUT THE HELL UP FOREVER
This is very sad the way y'all talk about America's best warriors it's just plain sick. The Taliban would really love listen to y'all people
Matthew Coles need to research "Mozambique Drill" The muzzle will naturally rise from the center mass to the head, it is part of the training. No Suppressed weapons are not very quiet Mathew Cole, it is not like the movies. A mark 12 with Suppressor is still loud in door.
Thejoker's Dick they weren't using a mark 12 indoors were they and subsonic weapons and ammo can be very quiet
@@ac1dP1nk :HK416
Bobby Keller sub subsonic .556 is a thing. You can load it yourself and a few major ammunition company's load it for sale off the shelve. It will operate in most .556 semi/full autos if you change up the recoil spring (ar15/m16/m4 etc) but if you do this and then run full power ammo with the subsonic recoil spring it will crush your rubber buffer in no time and cause undue wear on the firearm. The problem with making a subsonic .556 is generally that the grain weight of your projectile is to light to be highly effect at subsonic flight speeds (basically turn it into a .22lr). What makes .556 effective is its speed, yes higher grain weight loads are manufactured and do increase effectiveness at subsonic speeds (I believe an increase to about 75 grains for subsonic, from 55 grains standard ), standard load .45 acp is the best subsonic off the shelves cartridge for a suppressed firearm intended for close range. Obviously if you're serious run an AR platform in .300 blackout, it was prupose built for subsonic suppression.😜
So i assume you were on the raid? All we know is what they tell us.
@@ac1dP1nk only a 22 pistol like mossad used was reasonably quite. any bullet traveling over 1100fps, almost every thing except 22 and 45acp is loud with a suppressor but better than without one.
So the point of this is...?
You mean, murdering innocents?
M M M MONEY
Winston Smith in Oceania what innocents lol
Go back to making bullshit talking points about “what if cops didn’t exist huh liberal hur dur.” You’re a fucking partisan hack little bitch who can’t accept that even SEAL TEAM MEMBERS themselves are disgusted by their brothers actions! Did you even watch the whole video?? You’re just using old, useless rhetoric that I can wipe your fucking face clean with.
Hey Matthew Cole...The worst type of people do not deserve a respectable death. Thank you to all our men and women in uniform who help take down these brutal animals.
Who’s the animals? Cowards who drop bombs and send in drones, many trained men executing innocents without weapons ?
Would you have said the same as a citizen of Nazi Germany, when their army was making their own attempt at global domination?
you arent very bright john
calling them brutal animals but justify our own actions because they did it first?
you do realize that from their perspective we did something first as well which justified their attacks
we have to have different standards and call wrongdoings out otherwise we would be the exact same
Should be ashamed of your words, Usama bin Laden was a treath by himself - even as old frail man. Think man
Threath
He is ignorant. Captain's mast... particularly, admirals mast can kill a career.
I saw that too. It didn't make sense what he said. If McRaven had to come down, then that SO's career was OVER!
its war.. everythings allwoed in war ya sisse.. enjoy your freedom and oil that these men die for..
This guy isn’t an authority on war crimes. His audacity is stunning.
But but but but he has "sources"😂
His sources are former SEALs...
@@markolson9913 and how would you know?
@danielpowers2413 I'm taking his word for it because he's a reputable journalist that hasn't given me a reason to not believe him. Nobody ever said he was an authority on war crimes either. What's your reason for not believing him?
@@markolson9913 in what way is he a reputable journalist? He did a piece for the NYT, but the Times is overtly biased and leans hard left. He states that members of our military committed war crimes, but presents no hard evidence other than the alleged testimony of “sources” which he conveniently cannot name. He also does not define how the nature of the alleged crimes in any way constitutes war crimes. To be a war crime, strict definitions apply.
The first victim of war is the truth. But respect for the Warriors who fight when you are sleeping at night in your bed. ⚔️🇺🇸
Sometimes you don’t have to see how justice was served, just trust that it was served.
So Linda Norgrove was a spy, that is god damn fascinating
Abu prisoners in Afghanistan. The attacks on the USA were designed and trained by the US military not Afghan people.
Sorry, but I don't feel the least bit bad about wasting that guy
Those two seals are now banned from the seal team 6 headquarters, along with only one other former seal to ever be banned from their hq
Did he investigate the taliban for beheadings as enthusiastically as the seals! Mutalating the mutalaters!😂😂
This is an example of degrading morals and ethics that will spread like poison.
Those suppressed weapons really that quiet?
Let's see... Trained extraordinary killers by our military. They did their jobs, while risking their own lives and losing teammates, and the issue was what they did, post mortem, to the dead bodies.
You can't get a little bit pregnant folks
Wasn’t a lot of noise? How bout the helicopter crashing in the front yard? The doors being blown, the shots fired at the seals by those on the lower levels.. those don’t count?
There are real men, Alphas, Sigmas…. And the beta boys who write about them.
I never believed they killed him and still don't. There can be only 1 reason no photos of him dead were released?
You should actually watch the video your commenting on
The family members of those Americans jumping to their deaths on 9/11 I'm assuming were not asked their thoughts on ubl being "Canoed"
That the government is allowing these two seals to do this should give everyone pause.
🥵
Just a couple left wing extremists being left wing extremists.
I couldn't get past 8 minutes of this. How biased to show photos of poor misunderstood UBL smiling and looking serene; that is manipulation at its most egregious, DN. Boo hiss. And if you've never faced a suicide bomber, you may not know that it takes very little to connect two wires to detonate a bomb, and the threat has to be stopped (meaning no chance of the wires touching). It's a split second decision made by some of the most well trained soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines. Despicable "reporting" and "interviewing".
anyone rembering what the hell us troops are doing in afghanistan, besides protecting the poppy fields...
Hunting down and killing off terrorist splinter cells, buildings schools water Wells, rebuilding ruined country. Training police and military and spreading democracy.
Whaaaaaaacking Tangos!!
Talking before or after the service within a short time is a death sentence by secret tribunal.
Canoeing ...the best practices methods for dealing with terrorism....I dont see why the commotion
This man - Matthew Cole burned a source Reality Winner re: Russiagate - very easy to look up. He also burns other sources to advance his career.
What’s the difference between a terrorist sympathizers and terrorist empathizers? This piece garners both.
Osama showed zero respect for human life.
Have no mercy, show no mercy. 👍👋
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How is OBL not being armed even in the conversation????????????? Were 3000 innocent civilians armed? Wth?
True journalism!
But dangerous...😬😕
'Why do they hate us?'
great interview
Hatchets are not irrelevant on the battlefield today. They're fully functional in breaching doors, opening / breaking pad locks and as a close combat weapon. It can also be used as a prying device and other field utilities. You should probably have someone from the military advise you as to help you avoid anymore misinformation.
Kris Says: it IS useless when you have unlimited resources to fucking do the shit you just said
Or you could you know, just get a crowbar or a utility knife that does the same thing.
cmon bro...they were given the hatchets in order to bond with their images as the "red" team.....get them bloody on the battlefield as a badge of honor.....no one used the to break down doors.....it was all for bravado and ego ....they were expected to bloody them to prove they belonged...all tribal, clique mentality
There are stories of pitched battles where men without ammo resorted to using their entrenching tools and bayonets.
ROW ROW ROW YOUR BOAT!!! LOL
Obviously ol sammy been rottin' gave a huge fuck about the rules, he def followed the ROE to the T, obviously he cared about human rights also, you know, since his boys flew jumbo jets into our buildings killing innocent civilians smh .. You play a stupid game, you win a stupid prize. Just so happened today's winners received canoe's courtesy of ST6
Serenity Now!
My goodness "head on a platter" is a common metaphor.
This is why so many soldiers live with PTSD for the rest of their lives. They know what they did was inhumane and they have to live with it forever. The officers who encourage this aren't in the field and wouldn't have the nerve to follow their own rules have no moral compass to lead, they sit behind their desks and hide! Shame on them, they are to blame and should be removed from authority!!!
Bin Ladin was dead from Kidney Disease at least 4 years before the so called Team 6 execution.
Source? Wait you don't have any LOL
@@2023awakening www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/bin-laden-died-from-wounds-suffered-in-tora-bora-air-raid-says-arab-expert-538318.html
www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/05/13/410939/Osama-death-Afghanistan-t-Pakistan-
www.infowars.com/top-us-government-insider-bin-laden-died-in-2001-911-a-false-flag/
axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_75862.shtml (spool down to the bottom of the article for numerous links about bin Laden's death in December 2001.
Does anyone know the status of the US attorney grand jury investigation of 9/11 from the southern district of New York? I heard on the radio once that that was supposed to be happening? All I can find is crickets
We need to know that the mills of justice are slow but they grind exceedingly fine.
Phsycological warfare is definitely understandable and I realize war is a horrible thing but I’ve always kinda looked up to soldiers and especially the seals and some things may have been a little out of hand but I also can’t say much considering I’ve never felt hate to that lvl and the guy says you would think it wasn’t so personal for the highest lvl of fighter in are military but you kinda would expect it to be sense they have been fighting the enemy for over six years some much longer and seeing countless atrocities done by them it would be hard for it not to become personal when it is literally your life!
Well said. In the article it kinda of states it all starts with roberts ridge where they tried to decapitate a lone seal. Which spurred the alleged retalliations
Sounds like I hit piece to me some of it might be true but remember this guy wrote for the New York times to.
Red is dead, the shooter, that's why he's never going to talk! Overdosing on heroin as a security guard not proud moment for the seals
I dont see anything apalling remember the people jumping to their death.
This guy should go talk to families of those murdered on 9/11. He seems to forget that event took place.
winkler axe.....great axe!!
I have no issues w anything the SEALS did over there!!!
I only wish I was a younger man when 9/11 happened and they were dancing in the streets in the Middle East so I could of had a role and brought the pain home to them!!!
Its a dangerous new world out there and we need Spec Operators to do their thing, I won't hamstring them w foolish ROE's or judge them for keeping us safe!!!
You all sure can't leave a good thing alone. You have to defame everyone that does good!!!!! You should be ashamed of yourself.
Unless you were present and part of the Bin Laden raid then you shouldn't speak your opinion about it or anyone that was a part of it!! The thing that I will never forget is every one of the SEALS were convinced before leaving to do that mission that they weren't coming back!! Not one of them changed their mind and backed out upon learning this which they absolutely were allowed to do since our military and SF is 100% voluntary
If your not out there carrying the rifle you have no business dictating what and how we do it!! If you want to know the details and make those command decisions then grab a rifle and come help us!! If not then enjoy the privileges and freedoms you are afforded by the brave men and women that make the ultimate sacrifice - M.L.
Szymanski was a naval academy grad....I think this is through out the seals.
Not Seal Team 6's founder Richard Marcenko. Read his book Rogue Warrior! Awesome read!!
*. I know ARSOF/USASOC top tier guys who'd "pay to fight again in the dirty allies of Ramadi and Mosul w/Rob..all these media shows were the ones pitching that 'a big gun fight happened' on UBL's entry...These guys would fight by O'Neill's side ANY DAY, & we hate liars" (the Unit member/family friend who does cadre now at Bragg who's deployed w/O'Neill 20x plus ops Rob, rumor has it, was the ONLY ONE stopping the preading that Obama narrative of a "gun fight on the site" as a lie...NOT the frogs'' fault...that was a Hollywood narrative*
Matthew Cole, the author of The Crimes of Seal Team 6, is so out of touch with his opinions that it is sad. War is beyond messy. Everything he has said is much to do about nothing. Don't care. Mutilate all the terrorists you want. Stop it. Give this fame seeking author a crying towel.
This is an extremely naive interview. Talking about morality and seal team 6. In the real world, with real bad guys out there, the limits of human behavior is only what’s physically possible. I wish democracy now did some shows about the lack of morality of even some of the people, groups and countries that try to attack democracy. To show their “immorality”. To think even bin Laden is now a sympathetic figure in the intercepts & democracy now’s eyes is pathetic.
killed who. ?
I wonder if Mathew Cole is still alive...
What's that supposed to mean?
Red hmm Sean Ryan did a interview of an SF operator known as Red I think this story may be B S sounds like they want the narrative as usual so they can make money on it!!!!!!
Maybe he was shot even though he wasn't holding a weapon because he might have been holding a Detonator and if he was behind his wife you might not have seen the Detonator or his wife could have been holding the Detonator waiting for his instructions so a lot of these reporters they're already biased coming into it they have no idea what they're talkin about as it relates to Close Quarters combat and of course if their friend Neil Roberts is mutilated on the battlefield then that deserves Payback
So in laymen's terms he shot that piece of shit in the head. Our youth can learn a lot from these men about what it means to take pride in your work.
I have to be honest.... I'm not mad at the psy Ops being sent to the terrorists. I bet it got to a point to where when they saw men with 4 goggle night vision coming through the door, they shit themselves.
This guy knows nothing:. He wasn’t there.
This guy is why they stuck ot to Eddie Galligher. Gotta hand someone out
Lots of bs opinion and bs in these comments! And this guy flapping his gums about seal team six knows zero
Five plus years later and still no accountability. What was the purpose of this report because it sure as hell didn't do anything.
You totally have the wrong info, horrible.
I am shocked and appalled bin ladin was not urinated on also.
I will get my milspec tear jar for this one.
Bad Santa hahaha...good one!
Bad Santa says the liberals who are to pussy to even deploy hahahahaha
stunning new exposé: a darker side of the group.
Really? Here's another kinda exposé that is not progressively bias. In othe words, self righteous hypocritical whiners that expect others to do their killing for them in order to have their freedoms secured financially with their tax dollars. 2,977 Americans were killed in the NYC attacks, along with the 19 hijackers
What do they call it when the assasins accuse the assasin? Matthew Cole? Burning civilians with Napalm, cutting ears off for trophies, cold murder out of suspicion or hatred out in the field, Native Americans scalping and mutilating body parts to ensure their enimies were emasculated in the next life to come, bearing false witness to convienient body counts to make the USA look good. Forcing military draftees to give and sacrifice their life, not for the USA but for a people, an abiguous people that were not highly moral or trustworthy. What's new under the sun Matthew Cole?
The whole canoeing subject that seemed to be such a focus for you both, i'm sure started with the 1993 Touchstone Feature Film "Tombstone" and a short discussion between Wyatt Earp and outlaw Ike Clanton. Would it bother you if someones head was "made into a canoe" to save your life Matthew Cole? How about you Amy Goodman? If a Team Six operator was sent in to save your own godless progressive liberal life by making someones "head into a canoe" in order to achieve that, would you be greatful for your safe rescue at any cost , or would you morally turn on your rescuer like a vicious rabid animal? Condemning the act that saved your hypocritic self. Either your an American or a coward.
As they say war is literally HELL. Not being a figure of speech. For you to kick back and moralize what happens in the field is worse than what others are doing. You have no right or place. You yourselves are not trained killers to secure not only your freedom but the freedom of this great nation. If it were not for the United States being in existance, the rest of the world would have self destructed millinials ago, or speaking German. My guess at some point Germany would have even turned on the Japanese.
You both speak clearly of your own amoralistic hypocracy. I do not condone or side with the taking of body part trophies in war or any other time. I am also not military nor ever have been. I do not live in the field either. Nor do i war for a living. I have never lived the extreme training life for war of an United States Navy S.E.A.L.
This not moralistic reporting from either of you. It's bias media, unfair reporting, not telling the complete story, only what slants to what you emotionally feel is the truth. Therefore there is no truth in either of you. Your type of reporting clearly validates that.
There's rules to everything that exists and laws if you break the policies of Truth there's consequences and repercussions if you believe in something you pick up the weapon and you stand the post you stand The Post you stand the post nothing's easy in life in God we trust