How Barry Allen could hypothetically become Savitar - The Flash Who is Savitar

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  • @KindaCulty
    @KindaCulty  7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    NEW SAVITAR/FUTURE FLASH VIDEO. I think this is the best one, covers the events from the New 52 Future Flash comic they are adapting into Ep. 19 & the rest of Season 3. Check it out: th-cam.com/video/OCEstNiikK8/w-d-xo.html

    • @kkpatro8782
      @kkpatro8782 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kinda Culty but in the original timeline the real harison wells and his wife made the particle accelerator, barry's mom didnt die and barry became flash in the year 2020....

    • @georgekaplan8560
      @georgekaplan8560 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kinda Culty but Jay said Savitar was the first speedster thousands of years ago

    • @seagamedo1389
      @seagamedo1389 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hey dude i think that jay garrick could be savitar because he replaced wally west's place in the speed force. so he might be in there for a long long time.

    • @galladeiator
      @galladeiator 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seagame Do ikr

    • @mauriciofraire6101
      @mauriciofraire6101 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kinda Culty last theory actually makes sense

  • @apavisiniajr.6904
    @apavisiniajr.6904 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." -Harvey Two-Face

  • @TomMcKee33
    @TomMcKee33 7 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Yes! Thank you for bringing up the message from the Legends crossover. Nobody seems to be talking about that anymore, and it's clearly going to be important. Savitar mentions how he destroys central city in the future, and there's a huge battle, etc. which I'm assuming is why Barry has to go back and reset the timeline, and left the message for Rip Hunter

    • @KindaCulty
      @KindaCulty  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah I thought it was applicable because it had to be tied to what's going on with the rest of Season 3. Since it was a part of the four night crossover I think it's easy for people to forget.

    • @mohammadhasan1679
      @mohammadhasan1679 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Paul Smith may be because of his armor ?

    • @thatradicalafricandude
      @thatradicalafricandude 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paul Smith cause its future barry he grew and the armour

  • @alexdimitrov6299
    @alexdimitrov6299 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    did anyone else notice that at 2:18 savitar says "BECAUSE I AM THE FUTURE FLASH"

    • @alexdimitrov6299
      @alexdimitrov6299 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I MEAN 2:15

    • @Benjamin-si4bg
      @Benjamin-si4bg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alex Dimitrov *because I am the future, flash

    • @pensacolian211
      @pensacolian211 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely not a comma there, not matter how much you want there to be, and you obviously do because that's the only reason anyone would try to insert one there. In another episdoe where Savitar says the same thing there is plenty of room for a comma (although it could still be taken either way), but not in the scene in this video. He says it way too fast. I am the future flash, as a statement. Watch it again if you don't believe me.

    • @ShadyRASMY
      @ShadyRASMY 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Alex Dimitrov apparently there was no comma. savitar revealed hour ago

    • @Benjamin-si4bg
      @Benjamin-si4bg 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shady RASMY exacly

  • @angadbedi3368
    @angadbedi3368 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Your right

  • @KindaCulty
    @KindaCulty  7 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    Thanks for all the positive comments. To everyone getting worked up, it's hypothetical. Like I say in the video, I'm not even saying Barry is Savitar, just positing a new idea to chew on.

    • @LyricalViking
      @LyricalViking 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Just a thought, Who's to say when Savitar claims he's the Future Flash it doesn't necessarily mean he's Barry. There's multiple Flashes n the multiverse. IMO I believe Savitar could be Jay Garrick. Barry was there when Jay was imprisoned, What if as a surprise twist Savitar is an insane Jay? Just a theory and is most likely very wrong.

    • @scottweber2297
      @scottweber2297 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Focus Khien damn! Now I'm lost. Lol! Now I think is jay,

    • @LyricalViking
      @LyricalViking 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Scott Weber lol

    • @chrishillhill6173
      @chrishillhill6173 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kinda Culty maybe it's Bart lol

    • @watchgamezgo7146
      @watchgamezgo7146 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kinda Culty Its "I am the Future, Flash" with the coma

  • @BFHsmallarmy
    @BFHsmallarmy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +260

    I had the same theory except for the season 2 finale time remnant part.
    S3E1: Thawne calls Barry the villain.
    S3E2: Jay tells Barry they're both just men, not gods.
    S3E6: Savitar introduces himself as a god.
    S3E7: Savitar tells Barry that Barry is just a man. (You could say that he needs to stop being Barry Allen and become Savitar in order to establish his "god status")
    S3E15: Savitar tells Barry that he knows him which means it must be someone that we've already seen on the show so that rules out any character we've yet to be introduced to.
    S3E16: Savitar says he has already lived all of this when Jesse confronts him.
    Fun detail: In S3E15 there is a moment where Savitar speeds away to an alley and Barry follows him. They have the same posture in that scene. I know it's not important whatever posture Savitar has but he kind of acts like Barry does. It could just be me imagining stuff since I already believe him to be Barry.
    I can't imagine it being H.R. because he's too silly, Julian being Savitar would be boring since he was already Alchemy. Wally is my second bet but I much prefer Barry because if it is Wally it would be less about Barry (the main character) and more about Wally (a supporting character). Anyway, I hope we're right about Savitar being Barry.

    • @Craftshooter
      @Craftshooter 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      and the 'I created myself' line could be because in the comics when Barry dies he becomes the lightning bolt that struck him

    • @93mystic
      @93mystic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also remember on the four episode crossover or on legends of tomorrow Barry Allen said not to trust his future self

    • @mikedanielespeja6128
      @mikedanielespeja6128 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe Barry fused with megatron and savitar was made

    • @JayDieTye
      @JayDieTye 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      hmm..conclusion ...Barry has
      Crippling depression

    • @LyricalViking
      @LyricalViking 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Or when Jay Garrick offered himself to be imprisoned in the Speed force. Personally I just want an evil Jay.

  • @rubix3413
    @rubix3413 7 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    What if Savitar is Jay Garrick.
    So in the latest episode Flash leaves Jay behind in the prison so that he can save Wally, then Barry promised that he would get Jay out someday. What if Barry fails to save Jay and he is left in there, Jay slowly looses his mind and begins to form a plan to escape. Savitar uses Wally to take his place as revenge because he feels betrayed because he lost everything so that Wally could be free but he also uses Wally so that it will create an endless loop so that no matter what Barry does Jay will always become Savitar because Wally will always be trapped in the speed force and Jay will always take his place. Which essentially makes Savitar Immortal.
    A small side note that may help back this theory up is that at the end of the episode Jessie leaves to become the Flash of Earth 3. This is pointless because Savitar will have to be beaten by the end of the season which isn't that far off so there's really no point in the writers sending Jessie there for a few episodes. But what if they don't plan on Jay being released but instead plan on revealing him to be Savitar, then it would make sense for Jessie to leave. Also it is constantly mentioned that Savitar is the first speedster if this is true it rules out anyone that we already know about except Zoom, Barry and Jay. We don't know exactly when Jay and Zoom got their powers but Jay was held in Zooms cave for all of season 2 so it he had to already have his powers in season 1 but Jay is also far more knowledgable about the speed force and everything so we can assume that he has been a speedster for some time now, certainly longer than Barry, which makes him and Zoom the only known options for the first speedster but Zoom has become the Black Flash so we can rule him out which only leaves us with Jay.
    But thats just a theory, a flash theory.

    • @pxrisxiv
      @pxrisxiv 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shellshock Gaming Barry Allen is the first flash...

    • @rubix3413
      @rubix3413 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jose Pacheo Well next weeks episode is the Music Meister episode so I doubt it will advance the overarching plot very much but the week after that is going to bring in Abra Kadabra and it is supposed to focus a lot on Savitar's identity so we might actually get to see who Savitar is. I am hoping/thinking that it will be Jay, just because of how perfectly everything comes together.

    • @nikeshrai2158
      @nikeshrai2158 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice one..

    • @johnron5027
      @johnron5027 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shellshock Gaming
      They already tried to do that last year

    • @rubix3413
      @rubix3413 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      John Ron Last year they had the villain pose as Jay to fake everyone out. I think that this year they might actually have the villain turn out to be Jay.
      I'd also like to expand upon my theory, recently I re watched some of the episodes from seasons 1 & 2 and looked at Reverse Flash and Zoom's levels of speed compared to Barry's and then I compared Savitar to Barry. Now at the beginning of the season Savitar was clearly the fastest, it wasn't even a competition but since he has been released from the speed force he appears to have slowed down an extraordinary amount, to the point where he was temporarily defeated by Jessie Quick, the slowest of all the speedsters. So now Savitar really doesn't seem that fast at all and if Jessie could defeat him alone, he doesn't stand a chance against Barry and Wally.
      So with this we have to assume that when Savitar said that he was going to be Barry's biggest challenge, he wasn't talking about speed but something else. I think that what he meant was that he was Barry's greatest failure and that Barry's challenge wouldn't be beating him in a fight but rather the challenge would be accepting and coming to terms with that failure. Barry's challenge would be accepting that he failed Jay and that he indirectly created Savitar.
      At this point, if its not Jay, the only other person I could see it being is future Barry. Although I would be pretty disappointed if that is the case because just about everything with time travel has an evil version of the protagonist at some point and they always have them turn out evil for the same reasons like their powers made them go mad or someone close to them died. Also if Barry does turn out to be Savitar that could act as a major stepping stone on Wally's path to replace Barry and become the Flash and I really don't want that to happen because I hate Wally, he has been unbearable since he got his powers so I really don't want him to become Flash.

  • @JakobReiso
    @JakobReiso 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    If Barry is Savitar, its kinda like the storyline of the first Infamous games where Kessler really is the main character, Cole Macgrath from the future, who goes back in time to kill Trish(Coles lover), to prepare Cole for a bigger threat in the future, all for the greater good.

    • @ivanvillanueva9092
      @ivanvillanueva9092 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jakob Reiso - Mirakuru Fitness I was thinking the same thing.

    • @fantasyconnect
      @fantasyconnect 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jakob Reiso - Mirakuru Fitness Yeah.

    • @FueryMistGaming
      @FueryMistGaming 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Dude what if it is that and Savitar is just preparing Flash for a greater threat that future Flash/Savitar could not stop because of his weakness to Iris or something? That's why he kills Iris!

    • @JakobReiso
      @JakobReiso 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Excactly!

    • @elcipop2117
      @elcipop2117 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jakob Reiso - Mirakuru Fitness good comparison I love that game

  • @phizzledUP
    @phizzledUP 7 ปีที่แล้ว +419

    DUDE you are right with the time remnant thing cause remember Savitar says "one of us had to die"

    • @TheBigKing0
      @TheBigKing0 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Maybe the stone gave him his suit, he already had the powers. Wally touched it and turned into an egg, maybe Barry touched it and got a suit

    • @tyreekparker3895
      @tyreekparker3895 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      King Ahaz maybe when the time remment died he went to the speed force and lost his powers like varry first did and then found the stone and got faster

    • @itisvito
      @itisvito 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      barry never lost his powers in the speed force the first time though. he just didnt know that

    • @itisvito
      @itisvito 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      i have checked with multiple sources including pagey

    • @fat025
      @fat025 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the stone is a physical form of the speed Force that's why it's only able to give people who had powers in Flashpoint and not just anyone nor take away powers like Caitlin I think the philosopher's stone just connects people with the lost Flashpoint timeline

  • @martinaguiar9235
    @martinaguiar9235 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spot-on! I couldn't agree more. Out of all the videos I've seen so far, yours makes total sense.

  • @silly7eraph
    @silly7eraph 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you!!! I was thinking about the remnant and someone finally made a video on it

  • @barryallen2024
    @barryallen2024 7 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    This is the only theory that has really good reasons in my opinion

    • @primella8135
      @primella8135 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Barry Allen not a terrible theroy but I still don't think savitar is Barry

  • @tonyg6138
    @tonyg6138 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Tell me why we are enemies""We had to be. Only one of us could live."Sounds like a Barry Allen time remnant from season two finale that didn't actually die but got trapped in the speed force....

  • @skylermv
    @skylermv 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well thought out. Each point you make you backed up with possible reasoning.

  • @danwourms
    @danwourms 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job. Thanks for making this.

  • @devesharya7274
    @devesharya7274 7 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    another theory
    he could be the flash of the 1 st timeline where Barry mother was alive and later he became flash
    but after saving past Barry the future Barry got stuck in speed force coz his future didnt exist and he was the future flash

    • @ghidorah15
      @ghidorah15 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was basically what I figured.

    • @KindaCulty
      @KindaCulty  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like it.

    • @Ani-Albanian
      @Ani-Albanian 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Devesh Arya WOW COOL

    • @devesharya7274
      @devesharya7274 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you but I like surprised by the show

    • @fantasyconnect
      @fantasyconnect 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty much what I thought, Savitar understands Barry and the team WAAYY too much.

  • @kalebtaylor1370
    @kalebtaylor1370 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That time remanent explanation blew my mind and made hella sense

  • @jadeypeach
    @jadeypeach 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aaahhhhhhh!!!! I love this!!! This is exactly what I thought, but you worded it better ha 💕

  • @kaledfa403
    @kaledfa403 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow, you were sooo close, So close

  • @HeyShadowman
    @HeyShadowman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Fucking perfect

    • @HeyShadowman
      @HeyShadowman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One question, what about the recording of future berry telling everyone not to trust himself?

    • @KindaCulty
      @KindaCulty  7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm not sure what you are asking. I mentioned the future recording in the video.

    • @HeyShadowman
      @HeyShadowman 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kinda Culty Kinda Culty I guess what I mean is, would that be the time remnant Barry sending that or what?

    • @Demo204x
      @Demo204x 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Kinda Culty go on 123 movies look at subtitles and there is a comma when he says I am the future, Flash

    • @TheKevka1994
      @TheKevka1994 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Jake Bruh Yea they put comma into the subtitles when Savitar says Im the future flash. BUT, he doesnt always say it with comma. He did say "IM the future flash" Without taking a break. It's the shows way of messing with us and keeping things interesting. It keeps us guessing and making theories. So that comma doesn't mean anything right now, because there is a time,when Savitar just says "Im the future flash"And by that I mean he isnt taking a break after he says "Im the future (break) Flash"

  • @Gamers-Addicted
    @Gamers-Addicted 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    With your Theory There was one other that suffered this fate. Eliza Harmon, self-nicknamed Trajectory she had to much velocity 9 and ran so fast she disintegrated. remember she created herself too.

    • @dogii0
      @dogii0 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      BLACKTHORNTK1 savitar is a dude...

    • @jaygamingtv
      @jaygamingtv 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      BLACKTHORNTK1 you are dumb bruhh, Savitar is a man

    • @Gamers-Addicted
      @Gamers-Addicted 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      the armor is huge and honestly only 3 created themselves reverse flash, kid flash and Trajectory. but only 2 disintegrated the Flash Renment Barry clone and Trajectory. and out of all theses who is in both categories? Just saying because the flash is all about mixing things up even racial origins of the characters so why not their sex too? To me it's such an obvious choice no one has thought of but yeah that's my reasons for this Theory

    • @akashshanmugam7162
      @akashshanmugam7162 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just Harry I think trajectory was not connected to the speed force due to her artificial v9 so she literally just disintegrated.

    • @elmamba7495
      @elmamba7495 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      BLACKTHORNTK1 Savitar was the FIRST speedster so its obviously barry's remenant because if you think about it, barry that is being tormented by savitar is a couple minutes younger than the remenant that becomes savitar so they can't really pull a trick on us because also if savitar was "the first speedster on another earth, 1 the other earths were hypothetically created by barry and how would he know if he was from another earth that he was first for sure

  • @VANDAGOAT
    @VANDAGOAT 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best explanation I've seen yet!! Thank you 😜

  • @COOKi3MON5TER1707
    @COOKi3MON5TER1707 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome video brotha!! This makes perfect sense and sounds reasonable. This is the first video of yours I've watched and now Ima subscriber!

  • @heyoplays
    @heyoplays 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Why is that when Berry messes with time something bad is bound to happen and when villain speedsters do the same it's like no problem? Damn, berry might be cursed.

    • @leonardozumaeta4354
      @leonardozumaeta4354 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kiarly Brice Barry uses the positive speedforce while villains tend to use the negative speedforce

    • @heyoplays
      @heyoplays 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      leonardo zumaeta rojas I guess that makes the negative speedforce better then

    • @Agent0fSilence
      @Agent0fSilence 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah, so the speedforce is like a... Battery?

    • @leostiffer530
      @leostiffer530 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah .. reverse flash .. mess up with the time line .. but nothing bad happen .. or just mybe people like reverse flash only think and care about himself unlike barry who want other people he know to remain the same ..

    • @heyoplays
      @heyoplays 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      AgentFighter more like a battery with endless energy that speedsters use to get their powers.

  • @esdrasperezveloz4363
    @esdrasperezveloz4363 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    does nobody remember that at some point in the comics Barry gave himself his powers , that he was the lightning bolt that hit him giving him powers!

  • @psychospoiler
    @psychospoiler 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn!! My thoughts exactly mate. Awesome video nice job explaining the theory so well

  • @williespivey7330
    @williespivey7330 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video you got a lot of things to back you up👍

  • @popcorn.164
    @popcorn.164 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You make some pretty good points

  • @arshisfat6530
    @arshisfat6530 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That time remnant can't be savitar because he says that he also created soon when he tells Barry that he is their so savitar's origin couldn't have happened yet
    This is a good theory though and it makes sense if savitar never said the thing stated above

    • @jordandeponte532
      @jordandeponte532 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Arshis Fat lol barry isn't the first speedster so it can't be barry

    • @khalidanthony728
      @khalidanthony728 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Savitar also admitted he lost his mind several times in the speedforce. He made that "first speedster" shit up

    • @TheMasterOfOmni1900
      @TheMasterOfOmni1900 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Remember the way that Savitar protected his face from Barry and Jesse. He's hiding something important about his identity. The way the writers made Savitar, he seems like a pretty unreliable source. I thinks it's too early to rule out Savitar being Eddie, Ronnie, or Barry.

    • @kevinleyva5149
      @kevinleyva5149 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you can rule out Eddie and Ronnie because when jesse confronted savitar he said he already lived all of this

    • @kejuangreene5367
      @kejuangreene5367 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Arshis Fat welp u can hold that L now😂😂

  • @moisesalva
    @moisesalva 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's actually brilliant. great job... a few unanswered questions,still. but good stuff

  • @fluffyearl2572
    @fluffyearl2572 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is by far the best theory video that ive seen on youtube. Almost everything were said perfectly, you might have missed something but it all made sense.

  • @joziahserrano2507
    @joziahserrano2507 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My thoughts on this is what if the time reminent was the one Cisco saved (the time reminent wouldn't know due to non linear time) and the flash that was trying to get his powers back got lost into the speed force blaming the flash team and eventually turn into savitar

  • @TheSuperjoseluis
    @TheSuperjoseluis 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this theory just blew my mind

  • @akshaykaladi
    @akshaykaladi 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    the best theory and detailed video till now..you got a new subscriber :)

  • @justtoolit6051
    @justtoolit6051 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is perfect ! I was thinking about the Barry time remenant too. I def think this is it.

  • @Ted2of25
    @Ted2of25 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is a good theory, i like it. Although there's still the question of the Philosopher's Stone which supposedly gave Savitar his speed.

    • @KindaCulty
      @KindaCulty  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah it's hard to know how the Philosophers Stone fits into everything no matter who Savitar is.

    • @Feetures
      @Feetures 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The philosopher's stone was only the key to setting savitar free? Therefore Savitar had to control Julian to get it. His theory is still very likely to be true :)

    • @crystalaxe357
      @crystalaxe357 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ted2of25 my theory is that when present Barry went to the speed force he got his powers from the black figure thing. so when future Barry / savitar went in, he had to get his powers from the stone when present Barry threw it in then went back to the present to kill iris.

  • @husaifanizam3735
    @husaifanizam3735 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thing I love about you is how your confident witht the theory and at the end..."it could be all bullshit who knows" lol

  • @evandulany2659
    @evandulany2659 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good point it's really clever keep up the good work!

  • @jericorosier-butler9982
    @jericorosier-butler9982 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta say this is a really good vid. Good job!

  • @DEEPANSHUTULIBME
    @DEEPANSHUTULIBME 7 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    If this is supposed to be true then why did they show that scene where savitar is getting his powers from the philosphers stone ?

    • @icyjules
      @icyjules 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Kostas Mend - Barry did get his powers from the particle accelerator even in the original timeline. What Eobard did was making it happen sooner than it was supposed to (about 10 years if I remember correctly). He explains it in the episode of season 1 in the flashback when he kills the original Wells and steals his identity.

    • @sk-beast9968
      @sk-beast9968 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      What episode did they show Savitar as a human form?

    • @DocJags
      @DocJags 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      that could of been them just imagining or speculating how he got his powers because that's how they thought he did

    • @dhatfield8411
      @dhatfield8411 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It was a scene they played when Jay was talking to Barry about Savitar as if he were a legend/god. I'm thinking it wasn't supposed to be taken literally.

    • @DocJags
      @DocJags 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Danielle Hatfield this one understands

  • @pjbarban
    @pjbarban 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A very reasonable idea with evidence. I wrote on another site that I thought Savitar was a future time remnant of Barry. I said that in the Zoom ending that remnant supposedly died. However, my main thought was that Barry will create a new time remnant to defeat Savitar. This new remnant would go insane and become Savitar. Unfortunately, my theory lacks a prime cause to create Savitar. Your (better, clearer) time remnant theory solves this problem. I hope you are right.

  • @antoniomikec4783
    @antoniomikec4783 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's pretty good theory i didn't think that was possible until i checked out this video. Nice job man!

  • @RightBeforeYurEyes
    @RightBeforeYurEyes 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I haven't seen this mentioned at all so I might as well start it up . Is it possible that it's actually the speed force itself that manifested into its own being or the speed force overriding another Barry from the future to stop himself ? Which is why savitar calls himself a God and the fastest alive .. and maybe the speed force wants too control Barry or something but it needs to eliminate Barry ties with reality ? Thus it knows everything Barry would have ever known which is whats throwing people off to believe it's the future flash

  • @dripaj9019
    @dripaj9019 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I come from the future he is the flash

  • @aizad786iqbal
    @aizad786iqbal 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    liked the theory, and this is the first video i watched on this topic,great video

  • @capital8119
    @capital8119 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is the most well thought out theory that I've ever heard and most likely my favorite

  • @Secces07
    @Secces07 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I believe you are on to something big. A friend of mine sent me this. I have a theory that I is similar. Instead of the Time Remnant Barry that you mentioned, I believe somehow Barry will create another in the future and maybe even to save Iris and kill Savitar. Now, because we know the past Barry needs to live or they die, the future Barry doesn't want to leave. So he escapes but is so in love with Iris he cant get over the fact that the other Barry gets her. So he starts getting insanely jealous and starts coming up with a way to get rid of the other Barry. He knows if he kills him that he will cease to exists. So he goes to a time that he knows he can become immortal. Back with Randal Savage and Hawk Girl for the meteorite. However something in the speed force doesn't work for him but he was able to create the philosopher's stone. The other Barry finds out and creates the speed force prison, travels back in time and beats the evil Barry and puts him in prison. However the good Barry did not find the stone. So this is why it was in the Egyptian Tomb that Julian finds it in. This is why Savitar is able to come back. he knows that he can use the stone to defeat Barry. But he knows that if Iris lives he cant beat Barry due to what and who he has become. Which brings us to where we are right now. However think of the part when Jessi stabs Savitar. Before that he states, " I know everything that happens I already lived it." Jessi and HR did not share exactly what happened to Savitar so Barry does not know that he was stabbed. This is why Savitar was surprised by the attack. HR some how has an idea that it might be Barry so he is going to start keeping information from him.

  • @shababsbotten69
    @shababsbotten69 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This theory is amazing pls let this be true

  • @Megatron0033
    @Megatron0033 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh this sounds legit best theory I've heard since the season started good stuff bro 👍🏾

  • @haider9999ful
    @haider9999ful 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    omg that the best theory i heard till now gj man.

  • @IshanMisraBEAST
    @IshanMisraBEAST 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Origin story messes up the theory

  • @georgefasoulas2615
    @georgefasoulas2615 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    U sound like Toby maguire. The spidey actor. 2002 2004 and 2007

    • @KindaCulty
      @KindaCulty  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Never heard that. But ok, cool... I guess.

  • @michaelbennettphoto
    @michaelbennettphoto 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome video! this totally makes sense!!

  • @JacquesLigier
    @JacquesLigier 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome work!

  • @EpitomeLocke
    @EpitomeLocke 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One minor thing, Cisco mentioned that time remnant is kinda the Speed Force's way of dealing with time breaking paradoxes or something like that, so I think the time remnant that died is the slightly PAST Barry rather than the future him. Cause if it's the him few minutes into the future, then his old self would have to carry out that future and go back to die. BUT if it's the past him that died: He called upon his past self and his past self dies, but if his past dies then there wouldn't be a future, but if the future didn't happen then he wouldn't be called to the future to die, BAM a paradox and hence a time remnant.
    thats all imo

    • @ghidorah15
      @ghidorah15 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No. The time remnant *is* the future self, and the past self has no obligation to carry out that future.

  • @ragnarbjorningason9383
    @ragnarbjorningason9383 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bro savitar was a time reminit

    • @KindaCulty
      @KindaCulty  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, he was a Time Remnant.

  • @gabec5478
    @gabec5478 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your video is so convincing !

  • @AmanSingh-yz2zi
    @AmanSingh-yz2zi 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've seen many videos on this topic but ur theory was the most acceptable!!!

  • @StarKiller_-ig9gr
    @StarKiller_-ig9gr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Its Trajectory

  • @subzero5439
    @subzero5439 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    But the only one problem is why future barry kill iris????

    • @Homeboy_Brando
      @Homeboy_Brando 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sub Zero
      He explained that in the video. He has totorture his past self to change him and do something better on the future for the greater good. Watch the video again and listen to him say it. I think he explains it better than me.

    • @jordandeponte532
      @jordandeponte532 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brandon Quiñones [Puerto Rico] but he traps himself and come up with a plan later on while being tortured and barry isn't the first speedster

  • @mirjamolmagrupov7393
    @mirjamolmagrupov7393 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is the best thoery yet thx

  • @respectablebogan3276
    @respectablebogan3276 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You've got to be one of the most sensible rational people on TH-cam. Thanks man :)

  • @danielrivera2975
    @danielrivera2975 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Guys I'm from the future and here to tell you that Savitar is Barry's grandson which was angry because he was born ugly because Barry Allen is ugly then Barry kills every one of his family members including his ancestors because he was ugly.The end (I'm on season 5)

  • @kkidd1733
    @kkidd1733 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    the cast and crew of the flash came other and said there are zero hints as to who savitar is and there isn't going to be any so this pretty much rules out the Barry theory as well as the wally, HR, and Eddie theories

    • @MeitanteiNoMusume
      @MeitanteiNoMusume 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      when did that happen?

    • @kkidd1733
      @kkidd1733 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      MeitanteiNoMusume idk exactly when but it was recent

    • @MeitanteiNoMusume
      @MeitanteiNoMusume 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I saw the article just know. It seems the cast doesn't know itself and will find out in time just like us. But Grant Gustin saying it will be someone that suprises us leads me to kinda believe that Caitlin is also an option. Seeing how she knows how to create velocity 9 and likes to go all Killer Frost on her Team mates from time to time. Nobody would really expect that would they?

    • @kkidd1733
      @kkidd1733 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      MeitanteiNoMusume nice theory, I have my own theory as to who savitar is but it's kind of weird

    • @kkidd1733
      @kkidd1733 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it could be hunter zolomon (I'm aware he turned into black flash at tge endd of last season) but that was his physical body and whatever was left of hunters mind is no longer there so maybe his consciousness manifested into something that is inhabiting the armor that savitar wears and he attacked future Barry but was eventually imprisoned in the speed force then come the events of season 3, maybe when savitar says to Barry that he took everything from him that included his original body as well

  • @seanmclean5219
    @seanmclean5219 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had not thought of this good work finally convincing me that he is the flash!

  • @GeorgeGiann
    @GeorgeGiann 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Solid theory!! Best one I've heard so far.

  • @capn95
    @capn95 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ya I kinda agree with this theory. plus the future flash came to help Barry back when he was racing zoom, which the future flash sacrificed himself (and maybe would be in the speedforce, which explains the disappearance of him in the future but that doesn't mean he would be trapped there forever). but then Barry ducked up the timeline and created flashpoint because he was sad due to his father's death. the future was changed since then even after he let his mother get killed again. because of the crack happened everytime he changed something, the trapped future flash probably waited long enough just to realize that Barry ducked up the timeline. probably being told by Jay?
    remember that he said he created himself? maybe future flash was destined to die just to become the lightning that struck Barry (thus created himself). but it wouldn't happen since Barry went back in time and saved his mother.
    how about the costume changes? probably he merged with zoom/black flash? who knows. well this is just my theory though.

    • @capn95
      @capn95 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and the newspaper about disappearance of the future flash (which is my theory is the current Barry) is wrote by Julian instead of Iris. why? because iris would still be dead, killed by savitar. Barry will however sacrifice himself too in the upcoming events which is pretty similar with the one from the original timeline, that time that Barry was racing zoom.
      Barry's life would have no meaning since iris's death. that explains why the future him will sacrifice himself for the future events. plus Julian is now the one who wrote that news.
      perhaps Barry is just destined to be dead isn't it? that's why people said, you can't change the future.
      well savitar exists maybe just to replace zoom's job who's supposed to challenge Barry and and make the future flash come to help. if the future him doesn't come to help, something worst will happen, probably like we have seen in the movie. all superheroes fight each other.
      it also explains why the speedforce told him that he was given the choice to change the timeline because he was depressed after losing everyone he loves, but now with iris's death too, only once though. and he did learn his lesson.

    • @pensacolian211
      @pensacolian211 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know where you're getting your information from, but Julian is not the writer of the article in the future. The article is written by someone called Julie Greer (I think). Whether I got the name wrong or not, the fact remains that it's not Julian. Also your sentence structure is horrible, and almost impossible to make sense of. I don't claim that mine is perfect, but at least it's legible.

    • @capn95
      @capn95 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      211of211 ya kinda wrong somewhere about the facts. and english isnt my mother tongue and I don't fancy writing essays, explanations. but apparently from episode 21, I was right after all dude. even though no one could have guessed correctly saying that savitar is the future flash remnant, spared by savitar just to create himself. it's impossible to tell precisely until ep 21. the only clue was "I am the future flash." but still, it's the future flash remnant.

  • @xxzenn01xx9
    @xxzenn01xx9 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    didnt savatar say future barry trapped him in the speed force though? or am i remembering that incorrectly?

    • @chandlera5534
      @chandlera5534 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Philip Tuttle he kinda trapped himself tbh the flash was willing to do that and die so he trapped himself and that was the future flash was it not

    • @jordandeponte532
      @jordandeponte532 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chandler Alvari why would he trap himself to suffer forever and comeback and kill people he love

  • @edjoseph9433
    @edjoseph9433 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is by far the BEST theory I've seen!! REALLY good and great supporting facts!!! Looking forward to seeing if you're right!!!

  • @pwjub
    @pwjub 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You've made some really good valid points

  • @Benjamin-si4bg
    @Benjamin-si4bg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think savitar is Eddie, because in the comics barry had a twin brother named Malcolm Thawne. They got seperated at birth. Blah blah blah. He becomes his enemy. But the reason I believe he is savitar is, that in the comics he had powers to steal others powers including Barry's speed and stuff. He also had armour of a kind, similar to savitar's just without the helmet. He had a blue flame he could make weapons out of I think, but his favorite weapon is his flame sword. Savitar in the show just has two swords. I'm not sure about my theory, so can anyone back me up on it?

    • @James-wk5ex
      @James-wk5ex 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      That cool guy That cool guy Eddie died...

    • @Benjamin-si4bg
      @Benjamin-si4bg 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the spoiler, I'm on season 1 ep 12 btw. Guess I was wrong. Thank you for correcting me.

    • @Benjamin-si4bg
      @Benjamin-si4bg 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only reason I watched this video is that it was recommended to me, and I always watch the videos that are recommended to me

    • @zent9776
      @zent9776 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      That cool guy That cool guy hold this L its barry

    • @duffy1146
      @duffy1146 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      That cool guy That cool guy his name is Cobalt Blue

  • @itisvito
    @itisvito 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    why not Jay Garrick?

    • @ghidorah15
      @ghidorah15 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because Greg Berlanti flat-out said they'd never make Jay evil. Hunter Zolomon pretending to be Jay was enough.

    • @LyricalViking
      @LyricalViking 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Matt Harvey I still believe it's Jay imo

    • @itisvito
      @itisvito 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      if it is barry, he could sacrifice himself for the better of everyone like jay did, like ronnie did and doing this will kill barry and that could kill savitar if barry is savitar

    • @LyricalViking
      @LyricalViking 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      it is vito but if the time remenant theory is true than Barry killing himself wouldn't kill his remenant. as the remenant is the "Original Barry" and the one we see now was the last Barry, but if the past Barry dies than the future Barry would still live thanks to the speedforce as seen with thawne.

    • @itisvito
      @itisvito 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      honestly, i just cant wait for this to come out so i can see this shit. its pretty intriguing and i cant wait to see how they do this

  • @kevinbaboolal8089
    @kevinbaboolal8089 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    best support for barry being savitar
    excellent job mate

  • @devinmurphy6575
    @devinmurphy6575 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are no flaws in this, this is a really good thought, nice job Culty

  • @cghost2245
    @cghost2245 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hell of a video good job

  • @KingChuy-nz9eg
    @KingChuy-nz9eg 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    U Have Really Good Points Dude Awesome Job

  • @fejy1071
    @fejy1071 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You Make Total Scence...good video bro

  • @keanecobb3846
    @keanecobb3846 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    SHEESH!!!! This is so on point!

  • @sphoenix41
    @sphoenix41 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is almost perfect and pretty close to what i've been saying! good job man

  • @mr.hubris961
    @mr.hubris961 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! It totally makes sense.

  • @streetsaredone9006
    @streetsaredone9006 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you earned yourself a sub

  • @xXxAMIR99xXx
    @xXxAMIR99xXx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "I am the future flash" That's enough for me to know that Barry is Savitar or his time remnant,

  • @venyking6266
    @venyking6266 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    ur right it dose make sence i subscribed to u because ur videos are 100% true and keep up the good work

  • @ajaykumar-tw6mw
    @ajaykumar-tw6mw 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome bro

  • @keoladavidson6578
    @keoladavidson6578 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's true you are right down to the last detail

  • @vladimiriordanov5412
    @vladimiriordanov5412 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually the best theory i've heard up until now, this here provides evidence, something the others just dont they give you just clues but not why or how someone could become him. GG Culty you nailed that one

  • @therealsummer83
    @therealsummer83 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome! i love your theory it all makes perfect sense. im right along with you

  • @lvldup9961
    @lvldup9961 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subscribing even tho this is just a theory, this video was well thought out and explained! Good Job!!!!!

  • @gcost1835
    @gcost1835 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This theory is absolutely astonishing! It makes complete sense and I am very impressed. This was the best theory I've heard yet.

  • @iNioiiviiaiNie
    @iNioiiviiaiNie 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    dude thats really good theory, i usually dont watch these but this seems to be all perfect fitting.

  • @ownthevoid
    @ownthevoid 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really digged the video dude! Keep doing what you're doing. I see a bunch of potential in your channel, hope to see you with TONS of views soon.

  • @ikhtshamlone7340
    @ikhtshamlone7340 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your explanation actually makes sense

  • @InjusticeJosh
    @InjusticeJosh 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow that was very well said, you earned a sub.

  • @vedantsingh7717
    @vedantsingh7717 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is by far the most convincing theory I have heard. Great job 👍
    I'm just waiting for the episode 19 on 25th April - The once and future flash

  • @cheikhtidianefall2330
    @cheikhtidianefall2330 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think your theory is awesome and fairly logical, I really wish the showrunners think like you

  • @creepincarl
    @creepincarl 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I cant think of anywhere else Barry's timeline remnant would go except for the Speedforce. Thats an awesome phuggin theory man.

  • @sunilbonifas8748
    @sunilbonifas8748 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Theory, You Have Really Thought This Through.... Really What U Explained Has A point..... I wish It Turns Out Like This Only

  • @kieronbonald5113
    @kieronbonald5113 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    makes sense ....good job on explaining it

  • @proudpop8252
    @proudpop8252 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job, you and Leez Final Word have great theories on this. You have the remnant thing and Leez believe its gonna be Barry's darker side come to life. Cant wait to see how this ends.