Some response: * Top path Ninja isn't only strong late game, but also really strong early game. I'd assume that's why it's used so much. Also it's one of the few that can handle earlygame ABR. * This is just my observation, but bottom path Village has a high starting cost (10k for Monkey Town), so it's unaffordable until round 50 or so. Farms can start generating money earlier than that. Also it's useless in CHIMPS. * Mid path Bomb probably get so many uses because of Mauler spam? It's one of the most obvious anti-MOAB towers (it's in the name!), and pretty cheap so it's very spammable. In fact, I just did today's DC with Mauler spam (died to R98 ;_;). * I'm with you, kinda surprised top path Tack, top path Glue, and top path Druid are used that much conpared to others. * Mortar is probably least used because of how micro-heavy it is. Even moreso in mobile. You almost never want to use more than one Mortar in the game.
Yea, very true. Ninja is good at all stages of gameplay, and Mortar itself is quite a decent tower, but the trickiest of using it really does mean that if you do use it, you only use 1, maybe 2.
This is awesome. The Druid and engineer tho, definitely didn’t expect those. AOW is king and overclock?? Does that go even further to show what the average level of players using the tower paths?
I must say that I really love and appreciate this level of transparency with usage statistics and other information you provide us with. This kind of thing you never see from triple A titles and is one of the reasons I support the BTD series so much.
Just a suggestion, I’m sure you have already discussed this at the office, but I think the Mortar Monkey would get more use if there was a knowledge which let you change targeting of every mortar on screen at the same time.
I love your hair aaahhhhh, do you also have the data on heroes? Btw, i think spikefactory was so weird cause 1-0-0 is the best early game factory Edit: i do think the mortar could be buffed a bit. I feel top path has been nerfed a bit too hard to where there are basically always better options. Middle path is fine and now also has a nice damage buff when using the stun ability. Bottom path is fine besides blooncineration. It’s quite good but i’d like a little price reduction to make it more affordable.
The bomb statistic is interesting because, from my own experience and people I’ve seen, when I go for cluster bombs, I normally only get one or two. And even though I use cluster bombs more than moab maulers, when I use the maulers I spam like 10 of them. You don’t just use a single Golden Shark. So that might have something to do with why the middle is so much higher- it gets spammed a lot more when it gets used. So it doesn’t necessarily mean the middle is used much more 🤔
It's interesting to see how most of this seems to be in line with "the meta" among high level players (which are over represented in the Discord), but there are some discrepancies from casual players aren't as serious. For example, the middle path bomb and top path farm. If you were being uncharitable, you could call those noob bait. But rather I think its more that the usefulness of the other paths isn't as immediately obvious, even if it is overall greater.
First strike probably doesn't count as much since it's mainly used 80-100, and quite a lot of games played are only easy/medium. Sub in general though, I guess airburst isn't as popular as i thought it was... Must be due to lack of water in many maps
Why is there no never miss sky shredder, would have looked too awesome. Equally seeking missile totally fits specter. Just swap the their 3 on the ace please
1) Icicle impale is great 2) Embrittlement really helps boost your towers’ damage. It also does a surprising amount of damage when buffed by stronger stim alchemist
Your hairs looks like nothing I've ever seen in my whole life
It's an afro held back by a headband, by the looks of it.
@@dragonslayerz2220 Or maybe it's held back by the headset he's wearing ;P
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Some response:
* Top path Ninja isn't only strong late game, but also really strong early game. I'd assume that's why it's used so much. Also it's one of the few that can handle earlygame ABR.
* This is just my observation, but bottom path Village has a high starting cost (10k for Monkey Town), so it's unaffordable until round 50 or so. Farms can start generating money earlier than that. Also it's useless in CHIMPS.
* Mid path Bomb probably get so many uses because of Mauler spam? It's one of the most obvious anti-MOAB towers (it's in the name!), and pretty cheap so it's very spammable. In fact, I just did today's DC with Mauler spam (died to R98 ;_;).
* I'm with you, kinda surprised top path Tack, top path Glue, and top path Druid are used that much conpared to others.
* Mortar is probably least used because of how micro-heavy it is. Even moreso in mobile. You almost never want to use more than one Mortar in the game.
Yea, very true. Ninja is good at all stages of gameplay, and Mortar itself is quite a decent tower, but the trickiest of using it really does mean that if you do use it, you only use 1, maybe 2.
This is awesome. The Druid and engineer tho, definitely didn’t expect those. AOW is king and overclock?? Does that go even further to show what the average level of players using the tower paths?
First time seein your face, you look like a real chill dude
Probably better when my lightning isn't so bad haha, buuut appreciated :P I'd like to think so
Rohan S.A. It's the best lightning I've ever seen since btd5 apprentice :D
I must say that I really love and appreciate this level of transparency with usage statistics and other information you provide us with. This kind of thing you never see from triple A titles and is one of the reasons I support the BTD series so much.
Patch 18.0 Robot monkey don't divide his attention anymore
SuperMonkey second path: *STONKS!*
S L O N S
Surprised sabotage isn't used more, it's kinda op
Spactories, i suppose people spam 220 and get top path first?
Yea sabotage is epic, and grand sabo is essential for freeplay. I think it just falls in the category of "too lazy to use ability" for most people
Just a suggestion, I’m sure you have already discussed this at the office, but I think the Mortar Monkey would get more use if there was a knowledge which let you change targeting of every mortar on screen at the same time.
I love your hair aaahhhhh, do you also have the data on heroes?
Btw, i think spikefactory was so weird cause 1-0-0 is the best early game factory
Edit: i do think the mortar could be buffed a bit. I feel top path has been nerfed a bit too hard to where there are basically always better options. Middle path is fine and now also has a nice damage buff when using the stun ability. Bottom path is fine besides blooncineration. It’s quite good but i’d like a little price reduction to make it more affordable.
Keeping that hair? Thank you for doing that lmao
The bomb statistic is interesting because, from my own experience and people I’ve seen, when I go for cluster bombs, I normally only get one or two. And even though I use cluster bombs more than moab maulers, when I use the maulers I spam like 10 of them. You don’t just use a single Golden Shark. So that might have something to do with why the middle is so much higher- it gets spammed a lot more when it gets used. So it doesn’t necessarily mean the middle is used much more 🤔
would like to see how the popularity changes with each tier, would be intresting
It's interesting to see how most of this seems to be in line with "the meta" among high level players (which are over represented in the Discord), but there are some discrepancies from casual players aren't as serious. For example, the middle path bomb and top path farm.
If you were being uncharitable, you could call those noob bait. But rather I think its more that the usefulness of the other paths isn't as immediately obvious, even if it is overall greater.
Would everyone who used Spiked Mines instead of Perma Spike please stand
we like it when you ramble
Your avi makes so much sense now
This was really interesting Rohan!! I like looking at this type of data
Yea, i love seeing these stats a lot myself :) Is cool to have a chance to share them
I’m surprised that I alone didn’t make mid path ninja the most popular. Guess I have to do more shinobi spam.
I’m surprised sub is so low, it’s got a really good early game and first strike is still solid
First strike probably doesn't count as much since it's mainly used 80-100, and quite a lot of games played are only easy/medium. Sub in general though, I guess airburst isn't as popular as i thought it was... Must be due to lack of water in many maps
You, my friend, have a haircut the likes that no man has ever seen.
Petition to make this new hair for true sun god
Also, top path is spammable because it doesnt need mib and hits everything!
That has to be the most badass hair I have ever seen.
Where Can I see the blog?
Right here ninjakiwi.com/blog
third path tier five alchemist is amazing in free play
Both of the new towers are on the bottom 🤔
I like your "weird" setup
So PoD path is used 2x more than Shinobi path that is so weird
27:56 I had the same question
remember guys you can set playback speed to fast. I set it to 1.75
No set it to 0.5
never would I have guessed from your voice that you have EPIC HAIR
how long did it take for you to grow?
I shaved it clean off about 2-3 years ago, but it grows incredibly fast for a yearish then slows down pretty much to a halt
Why is there no never miss sky shredder, would have looked too awesome. Equally seeking missile totally fits specter. Just swap the their 3 on the ace please
Thought about that a lot haha. and the laaaag.....
Rohan S.A. Good point well made. And that’s why your in charge.
Shinobi’s Aren’t Good Because They Take Alchemist Buffs From Top Path Ninjas.
Nice
Woah, face reveal
Glue storm beats Tzar bomba.
Slons best map
stop shutting up...
Who is using ice monkey? Lol.
Icicle impale is really good
I am that one person that uses absolute zero in CHIMPS
1) Icicle impale is great
2) Embrittlement really helps boost your towers’ damage. It also does a surprising amount of damage when buffed by stronger stim alchemist
You're cute! ;-)
Do you play your own game?
I do quite a lot, but mostly like to try other things in my spare time too