Imagine if eagle storm was a stratagem that called in like 10 strafing runs, 3 eagle air strikes, 2,clusters, and a 500kg all in random directions centered on the beacon. And they came in like an orbital barrage (staggered into “barrages”)
How is it the community can come up with much better ideas, THAT WOULDNT EVEN BE MUCH HARDER THAN WHAT THEYVE DONE, but arrowhead can’t do a little thinking
3 sets of 3 strafing runs, 2 eagle air strikes coming from the left and right at the same time, 2 clusters coming in from front and back, then a 500kg to top it off, all flying in formation followed by a pelican that follows the thrower for 30 seconds offering fire support.
@@thedog5k The chaos more comes from the freeform spells you can make and friendly fire. It's a great time with friends (and still good solo, as you can cut loose without ((as much)) friendly fire)! There's a Magick (specific, awesome spells you can find that you can trigger automatically with a single key, but with a cool-down, or input manually with no cooldown) called Crash to Desktop that instantly deletes a _random_ entity with a cool glitch out effect. Even bosses aren't safe. Went through a level, warning my friend that was the only spell I was going to use. Went about as well as you'd expect. Think I still have a clip on my PC where I deleted the enemy that was about to kill him, then him, then myself immediately after, sending us back to the checkpoint. It's filled with all kinds of jokes and references and can frequently be picked up on sale for like 5 USD or something. I definitely suggest picking it up, no matter how you feel about current AH, as it's a great game.
i play with no sound by default, the bombardment just creates frustration and that is bad for the game all around. i get over stimulated by all the sounds of shooting my own guns so I feel for anyone who does use sound.
@@SlothSkeleton I think the record I saw was a team mate being killed 12 times in one game. He raged pretty hard. I personally saw him get directly hit three times in a row within about two minutes.
I liked it at first but it got tiresome after like 2 missions and that's even when it helped us out. 😅 Had to run heavy Armour with explosion resistance and sheild generator.
@ look man, I’m very socially isolated right now, and I got a zinger I need to milk for all it’s worth. So yeah, I made the same comment a few places. Can you just let me have this? Is it so much to ask?
Eagle Storm feels much more like coherent military operation. Like it is one combined army. And not a random bombardment losely anchored around players
bruh I can't even lie, the orbital bombardment is fucking hystericl and honeslty lore accurate. The fact that the DSS doesn't care about any friendly fire is so Super Earth. I don't mind it at all tbh
I'll be honest, it only killed me a few times. I rocked heavy armor and a shield backpack, and the bombardment demolished everything around me. Honestly, my problem with it is that since you have to prepare for friendly fire, it really restricts your loadout. In addition, the bombs going off all mission, every mission got to be a bit much, sonically speaking. Given we might be fighting under the orbital guns once a week, that's a lot of bombs to hear and a lot of gear to not use. Given the Eagle Storm was so much better, I figure the orbitals will be much better next time around. Hopefully less targeted at us, and showing up somewhat less frequently so we get a break. Or, at least, let us know where the bombs are hitting.... Honestly, the most disappointing action is the blockade. Just a booster people normally take anyway? So we get one different booster from the guy who would have brought HPO? That's not as cool as either of the other actions.
Eagle Storm is actually amazing. The Orbital Barrages should be changed to Orbital Laser or something like this. And it must target enemies or breaches, like the Eagle does.
It's most likely just the Traitor barrage targetting code with the 380mm barrage spread with the range increased a bit. Which is definitely horrible, but extremely easy to implement.
Or it's intentional. Lorewise, we hired rimworld farmers to man orbital cannons. They don't have an idea of things like trajectory, hitting moving targets, atmospheric entry, or air-to-surface ordinance. It takes entire groups of men with knowledge of triangulation and target acquisition to do such a thing in real life.
There should at the very least be an indicator to players where the damn orbital strikes are gonna be touching down. Like how the meteor events on moon-biome planets have that purple light they cast onto the spot where they’re gonna touch down.
@@Magnusficationthat’s if it’s right on you but in the case that you can see where they are gonna land ahead of time then it saves you from running into their direction.
My wishlist for the DSS: 1: Ability to change vote for DSS location prior to jump, OR: 2: Warning dialog saying “Are you sure? Your vote is final until after the DSS jumps.” 3: Disconnect DSS ability funding from deployment. Once funded, have it show “ready”, and then a vote to deploy. 4: Reduce cooldowns on abilities. Allow donations during cooldown. 5: Increase donation caps. 6: Add indicators where the DSS is firing or Eagles are running. 7: Add a stratagem to allow helldivers to mark targets for DSS abilities. 8: Better description as to what exactly each ability is doing on the strategic map. (Needs more info on strategic map in general.)
I like all of these. I would add that a cooldown of one week for (at least orbitals) is a lot. Especially if we can collectively fund in one day all three.
I love how all of these are basic features and UI standards like a confirm button? hello? arrowhead? AH need to give us more info about alot of things to begin with, like how armor pen tells you nothing as you dont know the armor value of enemies without looking through a wiki or eravin video on it
It's so funny that the playerbase abandoned the Mastia gambit when we were set to win because of dev meddling. Now, there is no way to save the DSS. Edit: The Devs just made the decay rate 0.3% now. Win by default, best kind of win
@Papyrus_in_a_HEV_Suit I forgot that eagle storm delays the enemy progress. But I believe that it will be damaged because we are set to lose the planet is on.
I love the bombardment. It adds to the cinematics and immersion. High Command is know to go overboard without care to the expendable divers. This is perfectly fitting in the lore IMO. Bombard the planet and throw some divers in to clean up. Then in a week they don't take responsibility, but instead blame something else (a miscalculation and that engineer is being sent to reeducation, etc.). I honestly love it and think people need to chill about the complaints here.
@@barrygamer7449 funny as hell the first time you see it in the game, but not as funny when you’re actually trying to complete an operation with it killing your teammates every minute.
I like you can see the eagles coming in to do sweeps. Makes me think we need a visual que for the orbital strikes, like how when meteorite strikes happen you can see a light before the impact and have time to dodge
I honestly would prefer your idea of 4-8 orbital Lasers (depending on difficulty). More cinematic is what we want as helldivers, so thank you for that. Keep doing what you're doing bro!
The general expectation I and the people I talked to was: 1) 1~2 Extra stratagems on that planet ( selectable or not ) 2) 1 extra booster ( selectable or not ) 3) Some effect to planet defense/liberation All 3 at the same time with some resource requirement. We got all of those in the worst possible way... P.s. : Much like Pirana games (mechwarrior online, mw5.. ) I had low expectations and am not overly disappointed, I have been trained to expect bad service on the first run, an apology and several weeks of the state till some incremental improvement... it is what it is....
The developer say that players can’t have two exo suits, because the game can’t handle it. Yet the game can handle 10 380s being dropped all around the map? Total BS. I’m sick of them.
@@tank-stubbs when the second exosuit was released players wanted to use two of them. The developers made up some BS reason saying that the game couldn’t handle it. But then they come out with this thing that spams 380s constantly.
@@thiccfila I turned camera shake on for the bombardment as a joke to self troll. I had to turn it off 5 minutes into the mission because i almost vomited. And i'm *NOT* sensitive to motion sickness at all.
The DSS was a disappointment. This is what it should have been: Unlocks 3 new stratagems for the planet it’s on, a mini nuke, 720 barrage, and a more powerful orbital laser. We SHOULD be able to see it in the sky. The stratagems use should be team wide, so they aren’t too OP. The DSS should have been a player hub of sorts. Maybe 3-4 squads could be in there. It would be cool to see other divers going into missions.
Why people are disappointed: long drawn out MOs causing players to inadvertently build up hype. The result was a random bombardment that functions as a lethal ‘planetary hazard’ at best and a menu for a resource sink. How to fix in the meantime: include additional incentives to play on the planet containing the DSS, such as an ammo buff of 10 to 20 percent to primary weapons, reduce strat cooldowns since it’s a super weapon, or include additional Strat slot or complimentary Strats. The planetary bombardment and eagle storm should have been unique DSS specific stratagems instead of ‘planetary hazards’.
Day 1 absolutely left the most sour of tastes in maaaaaany mouths. And unfortunately, first impressions are VERY important. Even if they rework the barrage, a lot of damage has been done, that one may never be active again.
It would be awesome to have the Eagle Storm send in different Eagles, kind of acting like a compounding effect Example: Strafing Run, then Rocket Pods, then Cluster, then Airstrike, then 500kg, then Napalm
They should have just had a laser that never end that has global range. It looks cool and should be easy to implement. Also we can see it killing things.
I would like to see the different bonuses fire different stratagems for their types according to what enemies they’re trying to hit, but then the community can spend even more resources for a specific type to be used. For example, the current Eagle Storm can use the Strafe, Rocket Pods, default Airstrike, 500kg, Napalm or Cluster stratagems on the current mode, or you can enable a specific stratagem to be used for all Eagles (like how the Eagle Storm currently works).
In my game with the orbital bombardment, one of the guys brought a walking barrage too, and it was very very fun on my ears...I got snuck up on by so many patrols because I just couldn't hear anything anymore.
4 HellDivers on a mission, and hundreds of bots, and somehow the orbital bombardment hits the HellDivers more than the bots. The only way this is possible, is AH programmed them to drop around and on the HellDivers. My only question is, why?
Itd be cool if they randomized the eagle storm, just imagine eagles constantly swooping, small explosion, big explosion, and Gatling fire just constantly , that’d be crazy cool. They can program it where the small explosion airstrikes only come within a certain distance so it doesn’t wipe you and then have the 500kgs further out
The DSS would probably be best served as augmented logistics, doubling your available or providing extra mission or bonus stratagems; being able to call in two 380mm barrages at once for example. Later updates can enable it to provide stratagems that cant fit on the destroyer, such as holding the bomber that was leaked
The strafing run gets shut done. And targets patrols that are near you. And they are able to actually accidentally destroy key objectives for you. The planetary bombardment is the definition of insanity
The whole idea of Helldiver-side planetary modifiers is great. Later on both bots and bugs will get their respective ones for sure. So the galactic map will be like a proper board game, with campaigns on planets having much variety. Perhaps we'll have Eagles flying while bots occasionally drop hulks in random spots. Different themed "brigades" will be here and there, further modifying the experience. All in all, seeing those 3-7 day cooldowns on DSS gives me impression that there should be around 10 of them at the very least. Basically planet-sized stratagems with their respective cooldowns.
I just wish the defensive/offensive options weren't tied to the bombardment/eagle storm like maybe the community wants an eagle storm while we're on a liberation campaign or getting the bonus booster while defending a planet and so on these kind of combinations would've been pretty great imo
Orbital bombardment and eagle storm needs a visual cue for where it’s going to land like how the meteors light up the ground before impact. I also think we should get some more personal augmentations when battling under the DSS. DSS specific strats, the big 3 boosters should all be free, stuff like that. I wanna actually feel like I’m fighting with the home field advantage.
Definitely agree with the sensory overload. I could only play a couple missions at a time and then I had an actual headache and my ears felt fatigued. I would take a break and it would go away so I would do a couple more missions and the same thing would happen. This really needs reworked asap.
I loved the Planetary Bombardment. Shit blowing up everywhere, so much fun and chaos. In my experience, I would only die a couple times per mission (lvl 10) from the bombardment. But I exclusively used the Fortified Heavy Armor, and often without the Shield Pack.
I would NOT be surprised if the Eagle Storm being unavailable initially was a consequence of the backlash to the 380mm saturation. I imagine it was supposed to be the actual Eagle airstrike, but was changed to the strafing run
I honestly expected acces to some OP stratagems like the hellbomb drop, Carpet bombardment or railgun barrage. Also I'd love if we had a social hub on the DSS and access to some permanent upgrades. Just having the hellpod optimization booster 24/7 as a passive would be enough of a quality of life improvement for everyone.
Even if the bombardment was implemented well, I still think AH should have added a unique stratagem to the DSS based on the fact this game is all about using stratagems. I just think the DSS is "neat" so far, but something that is "neat" shouldn't need a 1.5 month arc to get. DSS should have been released in liberty day to really get the democracy hype train going. Also, there should just be a passive buff that doesn't require donations whenever the DSS is on a planet. It could be something small like 20% stratagem cooldown reduction or make the Orbital Blockade always active.
DSS Captain: I knew it, I'm surrounded by Assholes. Keep firing Assholes! On a side note, the DSS bombardment encourages chaos diver overdrive madness.
My way of fixing Bombardment if they aren't gonna make it a stratagem buff thing, make it so periodically (every 5 or so minutes) the bombardments start falling all over enemy hotspots such as bases/bug nests. Warning is given out 10 to 15 seconds before firing, and for stuff such as blitz and eradicate missions it'll be after every 2 minutes. With eradicate missions set hard coded designated areas where the 380's will drop depending on the map This way it'll reduce team killing and still be useful for missions.
The DSS definitly needs more work. Egale storm works nicer. I think the rework bombardment was the walking barrage with only 1-2 salvos per enemy before it chooses another enemy then it be more friendly+further from the player.
I play the game pretty casually with friends so we were still having fun in the absolute chaos, but yeah it was rough. Got a clip kicking around somewhere of me dying to a 380 shell, getting called back in, taking about ten steps and instantly eating shit to another 380. Greatest belly laugh we had that night, but I hope they make some substantial changes here LOL
I actually like the idea of multiple orbital lasers raining down for support because they inherently go after objectives and enemies. Maybe even rework it to where the orbital lasers stop themselves once all the available units/buildings are gone to add to the idea that they are manually targeting units/objectives ro help you. It also provides that similar cinematic feel as the strafing runs.
Feels like they changed the Eagle storm in the back end to prevent more hate like the orbital bombardment, like the description states the air strike are random but nothing really happens
I am more like you I found the absurdity of the DSS funny but I agree with all the complaints, it should not have been that badly implemented. Mostly looking for the guild/clan stuff and the leaked big stratagems that probably comes with the clan system. Edit: As for the Orbital Bombardment I think it would be better and be more cinematic if it was more like the Eagle Strafes that are obviously targeted at enemies and it was a MIX of things based on enemy size. Large blips gets like a 3x Precision Strike salvo in its general area with a long-ish cooldown, then they should modify the Laser and swap it with the Gatling Barrage so its a targeted MOVING Gatling Barrage that fires a bit like the Eagle Strafes, just 3-4 second bursts then a couple of seconds cooldown, then it goes again etc etc. 100% agree that the DSS should be a powerhouse and making things much easier but it needs to be visually appealing without being a constant sound filter.
I literally can't play on a planet with the DSS since the Eagle Storm went live I would load in and play for a literal minute before my game would crash
The bombardment is wild should go by grid as map is constructed in squares so seeing a square is under attack you avoid then it randomly switches to another square until all have been hit shuffles and startscrandomizing another square
Since they are probably reworking the Orbital Bombardment, I wonder in what direction they’ll take it. If it adds a comical amount of salvos/projectiles to our deployed barrages that would be good but not everyone would notice since barrages aren’t as popular typically. I’d like to see it reworked to become a Super Walking Barrage. Mark the start and end points with colored smoke, and then it creeps from start to finish so players can see where they shouldn’t stand instead of playing the lottery. IDEALLY, they add a function that shows estimated danger zones of barrages or lethal stratagems in general on the map.
It gets worse. So it takes a full day to move the station, and each of the “bonuses” the station gives has a 1 week cooldown…… Edit: From what I’m hearing, the strafing runs are good, BUT I WON’T KNOW FOR WHO KNOWS HOW LONG BECAUSE THEY’RE ON A WEEK COOLDOWN AND I’M AT WORK!
we deffinatly should have had actual buffs and extra dss stratagems like a nuke every 5-10 minutes 30% extra ammo and extra damage on guns like pips said in his stream that and if we got a cooldown reduction on our attack stratagems like 25% or somthing helpful since we literally have a massive station we should have faster attacks
I just played with the eagle storm active and its insanely good! the thing that makes it good/better than the bombardment is it hits everything Infront of you and your team thus hitting the enemies that are pushing your team. as to the bombardment I have heard of some class setups for it, which I was wanting to try but eagle store became active. As to how they fix it I'm unsure, they could make it shoot tighter clusters around the players but highly focus on heavily populated enemy locations (bot drops, medium-heavy bases).
I was expecting clans with the introduction of the DSS, or just a hub section like Destiny. I was also expecting the bombardments to be something you could control. But I guess AH had other plans...
"Enough feedback" These suströmming guzzlers have been getting feedback ever since the game launched and the game becomes objectively worse ever since that game launched and the only time we weren't fucked over again because the game was on the brink of death. Arrowhead will never change, just move on to a game that respects your time.
Honestly I like the orbital bombardment and Eagle strafing run stuff, but how I see they can make the orbital bombardment BETTER, is to make it where it has a yellow or blue circle that gets smaller the closer it is to hitting the ground, just like on moon or volcanic planets- where if there's volcanic rocks or asteroids coming down, that you can clearly see where they're going and get out of the radius before your team stands still to rest for a second without getting blown up.
Orbital bombardment really disappointed a TON of divers and soured the 2mo we spent building the damn thing to just continually get killed by it and possibly lose the mission because of that crap. Eagle strike is OK but just with the bombardment was used first REALLY showed how little is was tested. They are really going to have to rework a lot of the station at this point because of how bad the release came out. DSS- dumb sample sacrificer...
I actually like the eagle storm. I love seeing the strafes all over the place. The orbital is crazy bad though. We should just get a free 380 with maybe twice the length or bigger explosions or something.
I found the barrage pretty atmospheric (I've only played 2/3 games so far so it hasn't gotten old yet) but we still need a proper superweapon. Maybe a Death Star-style superlaser which can delete an entire enemy base but takes 20-30s to charge up or for the DSS to get into position
Firstly, for the cinematic part the DSS should be visible from the planet surface in orbit. Secondly, it should fire massive cannon-tower shots onto the planet surface, which explode like a Hellbomb and obliterate enemies. This can happen every so often so as to not become overwhelming, and the effect seems pretty strong. Obviously, it should not target anywhere near the players to avoid unnecessary TKs, but could soften fortified targets and distant patrols pretty well and would awesome to see a giant laser bolt impact a patrol heading your way.
someone needs to make a meme showing the cross eyed gunner from Spaceballs the movie, saying I'm trying my best sir while shooting the orbitals
Hahaha loled so much.
Haha
someone did actually! it's probably still on the front page of the helldivers subreddit
Accurate lol
Who made that man a gunner?
Bombardment: WW1 simulator
Eagle Storm: Brrrrrrrt
Bombardment: Siri, play Fields Of Verdun by Sabaton
Eagle Storm: Siri, play Night Witches by Sabaton
😂TRAITOR DETECTED
battle of verdun style
Imagine if eagle storm was a stratagem that called in like 10 strafing runs, 3 eagle air strikes, 2,clusters, and a 500kg all in random directions centered on the beacon. And they came in like an orbital barrage (staggered into “barrages”)
How is it the community can come up with much better ideas, THAT WOULDNT EVEN BE MUCH HARDER THAN WHAT THEYVE DONE, but arrowhead can’t do a little thinking
3 sets of 3 strafing runs, 2 eagle air strikes coming from the left and right at the same time, 2 clusters coming in from front and back, then a 500kg to top it off, all flying in formation followed by a pelican that follows the thrower for 30 seconds offering fire support.
honestly I prefer the current Eagle Storm. The Planetary bombardment could use that tweak tho.
Sounds Like An Ultimate Move In A Smash Bros Game Especially Ending It With A Random 500 Just Blowing Everything Up
God Damn. That'd be total overkill. Not sure if something like that would be implemented without a big cooldown.
2 months of work for a meteor shower, Tinnitus and a change in the skybox
Absolute cinema
THERE'S NOT EVEN A NEW SKYBOX
DSS is proof that this is still the studio that made Magicka.
Dss orbital bombardment= TRAITOR DETECTED😂
Who?
Holy shit. I didn’t know arrowhead made
Magika.
I hear about it and wanted to play it. Maybe not now XD.
Magicka 2 is SUPER fun with friends. Would recommend
@@thedog5k The chaos more comes from the freeform spells you can make and friendly fire. It's a great time with friends (and still good solo, as you can cut loose without ((as much)) friendly fire)! There's a Magick (specific, awesome spells you can find that you can trigger automatically with a single key, but with a cool-down, or input manually with no cooldown) called Crash to Desktop that instantly deletes a _random_ entity with a cool glitch out effect. Even bosses aren't safe. Went through a level, warning my friend that was the only spell I was going to use. Went about as well as you'd expect. Think I still have a clip on my PC where I deleted the enemy that was about to kill him, then him, then myself immediately after, sending us back to the checkpoint.
It's filled with all kinds of jokes and references and can frequently be picked up on sale for like 5 USD or something. I definitely suggest picking it up, no matter how you feel about current AH, as it's a great game.
Im glad you bring up the sensory overload thing. That was getting to me more than the friendly firing
It’s a galactic war! What did you expect 😂
Yeah I don't get these comments, helldivers is literally just sensory overload: the game
i play with no sound by default, the bombardment just creates frustration and that is bad for the game all around. i get over stimulated by all the sounds of shooting my own guns so I feel for anyone who does use sound.
I was killed by the DSS orbital bombardment SEVEN FUCKING TIMES in a single mission.
It was more dangerous than the bots were.
those are rookie numbers. i've lost missions because of it.
@Cal-127 I alone died 7 times. My teammates were killed by it countless times as well and it did cost us the mission.
@@SlothSkeleton I think the record I saw was a team mate being killed 12 times in one game. He raged pretty hard. I personally saw him get directly hit three times in a row within about two minutes.
3 times before I rage quit
I liked it at first but it got tiresome after like 2 missions and that's even when it helped us out. 😅
Had to run heavy Armour with explosion resistance and sheild generator.
Arrowhead: “do you want DSS?🤭”
Divers: “What’s DSS!? Yes, please!🥺”
Arrowhead after 3 months: “DSS NUTZ!😈”
Divers: 🤯
🤣
Got em
Didn’t i see this comment somewhere
@ look man, I’m very socially isolated right now, and I got a zinger I need to milk for all it’s worth. So yeah, I made the same comment a few places.
Can you just let me have this? Is it so much to ask?
@@maxwessel7786 I laughed harder at this than the original comment.
“Warning! You are in range of friendly artillery. Warning! You are in range of friendly artillery.”
Eagle Storm feels much more like coherent military operation.
Like it is one combined army.
And not a random bombardment losely anchored around players
bruh I can't even lie, the orbital bombardment is fucking hystericl and honeslty lore accurate. The fact that the DSS doesn't care about any friendly fire is so Super Earth. I don't mind it at all tbh
I'll be honest, it only killed me a few times. I rocked heavy armor and a shield backpack, and the bombardment demolished everything around me.
Honestly, my problem with it is that since you have to prepare for friendly fire, it really restricts your loadout. In addition, the bombs going off all mission, every mission got to be a bit much, sonically speaking. Given we might be fighting under the orbital guns once a week, that's a lot of bombs to hear and a lot of gear to not use.
Given the Eagle Storm was so much better, I figure the orbitals will be much better next time around. Hopefully less targeted at us, and showing up somewhat less frequently so we get a break. Or, at least, let us know where the bombs are hitting....
Honestly, the most disappointing action is the blockade. Just a booster people normally take anyway? So we get one different booster from the guy who would have brought HPO? That's not as cool as either of the other actions.
Eagle Storm is actually amazing. The Orbital Barrages should be changed to Orbital Laser or something like this. And it must target enemies or breaches, like the Eagle does.
If the orbitals were spread over the map instead of centered around one Helldiver it'd probably be fine and actually randomly hit some targets.
Only one simple trick to save the planetary barrage.
add a cue on where the shells will land. Like the meteor storms
@@Quintinius31 I'd rather not have random barrages, even if marked. Orbital lasers would be much better. 3 or 4 lasers at the same time. Epic.
youre actually getting eagle storms? i played a bit ago and there was nothing
@@TheRyleeFella Yes, they're awesome. It bugged on my first mission but not since. (Check games files?) Enjoy!!
Next major order: obtain targeting software from bot held territory to facilitate better accuracy for dss orbital bombardment.
This would be better if it was something you have to do as a side mission and then the barrage would be more accurate for the rest of the mission.
It's literally a constant 380mm. The developers either smoke crack or don't play their game.
Both? Both. Both is probably what it is 😂
It's most likely just the Traitor barrage targetting code with the 380mm barrage spread with the range increased a bit. Which is definitely horrible, but extremely easy to implement.
Or it's intentional. Lorewise, we hired rimworld farmers to man orbital cannons. They don't have an idea of things like trajectory, hitting moving targets, atmospheric entry, or air-to-surface ordinance. It takes entire groups of men with knowledge of triangulation and target acquisition to do such a thing in real life.
@@nathanrood865 HAVE YOU SEEN THEM?They definetly play it.
Chill it’s funny, but absolutely does need to be fixed
Eagle storm looks perfect for jungle and swamp maps
There should at the very least be an indicator to players where the damn orbital strikes are gonna be touching down.
Like how the meteor events on moon-biome planets have that purple light they cast onto the spot where they’re gonna touch down.
Wouldnt do much good because the AOE of the 380 is too large to dodge anyway. If ur close, ur fucked
@@Magnusficationthat’s if it’s right on you but in the case that you can see where they are gonna land ahead of time then it saves you from running into their direction.
@@MagnusficationBruh you could make the marker appear like 6 seconds before the shell hits
My wishlist for the DSS:
1: Ability to change vote for DSS location prior to jump, OR:
2: Warning dialog saying “Are you sure? Your vote is final until after the DSS jumps.”
3: Disconnect DSS ability funding from deployment. Once funded, have it show “ready”, and then a vote to deploy.
4: Reduce cooldowns on abilities. Allow donations during cooldown.
5: Increase donation caps.
6: Add indicators where the DSS is firing or Eagles are running.
7: Add a stratagem to allow helldivers to mark targets for DSS abilities.
8: Better description as to what exactly each ability is doing on the strategic map. (Needs more info on strategic map in general.)
I like all of these. I would add that a cooldown of one week for (at least orbitals) is a lot. Especially if we can collectively fund in one day all three.
I love how all of these are basic features and UI standards
like a confirm button? hello? arrowhead?
AH need to give us more info about alot of things to begin with, like how armor pen tells you nothing as you dont know the armor value of enemies without looking through a wiki or eravin video on it
It's so funny that the playerbase abandoned the Mastia gambit when we were set to win because of dev meddling. Now, there is no way to save the DSS.
Edit: The Devs just made the decay rate 0.3% now. Win by default, best kind of win
Won anyway thanks to Eagle Storm
Which I am very happy for.
@Papyrus_in_a_HEV_Suit I forgot that eagle storm delays the enemy progress. But I believe that it will be damaged because we are set to lose the planet is on.
@generalrendar7290 you forget that it's set to leave before the planet even falls😂
The devs had nothing to do with it wtf why blame them for how players voted to move it
They still admitted its up in the air. Even if we won the MO on a technicality
Eagle-1 flying around the bombardment and Eagle Storms: “Sweet Liberty! What the fuck?! I’m flying’ here!!”
2:26 oh my God, bro, look at the ground it is just destroyed from all the bombardments 😂
I love the bombardment. It adds to the cinematics and immersion. High Command is know to go overboard without care to the expendable divers. This is perfectly fitting in the lore IMO. Bombard the planet and throw some divers in to clean up. Then in a week they don't take responsibility, but instead blame something else (a miscalculation and that engineer is being sent to reeducation, etc.). I honestly love it and think people need to chill about the complaints here.
Disappointment manifest.
I beg to differ. you call it disappointment manifest I call it the funny
@@barrygamer7449 funny as hell the first time you see it in the game, but not as funny when you’re actually trying to complete an operation with it killing your teammates every minute.
@@barrygamer7449not funny after the second time
@@barrygamer7449I'm glad the 12 year old is amused
Erm what the venti doing 😳
I like you can see the eagles coming in to do sweeps. Makes me think we need a visual que for the orbital strikes, like how when meteorite strikes happen you can see a light before the impact and have time to dodge
"Traitor Detected" LOL
Imagine orbital bombardment in malevalon creek
Just another day at the Creek lol
Should have done a flamethrower jumppack meme build and just RPed so hard lmao
I honestly would prefer your idea of 4-8 orbital Lasers (depending on difficulty). More cinematic is what we want as helldivers, so thank you for that. Keep doing what you're doing bro!
When the glazers are upset, you know shit is fucked 😂
Lmao
Nah some ppl are still defending this by saying shit like "its funny", "i love the chaos", "its realistic".
Biggest cope ever
@@NamePending878or now they’re glazing over eagle storm. Don’t get me wrong storm is badass but the DSS still sucks
The community are a bunch of moaners. They will never get anything right in your eyes
@@NamePending878 I think it is kinda realistic, but it doesn't make it more fun to play y'know?
Here we go. "The DSS has been infiltrated by the Automatons. Helldivers, you must take it back!" 😂
The general expectation I and the people I talked to was:
1) 1~2 Extra stratagems on that planet ( selectable or not )
2) 1 extra booster ( selectable or not )
3) Some effect to planet defense/liberation
All 3 at the same time with some resource requirement.
We got all of those in the worst possible way...
P.s. : Much like Pirana games (mechwarrior online, mw5.. ) I had low expectations and am not overly disappointed, I have been trained to expect bad service on the first run, an apology and several weeks of the state till some incremental improvement... it is what it is....
Another 60 day plan for the DSS?😂😂😂😂
The developer say that players can’t have two exo suits, because the game can’t handle it. Yet the game can handle 10 380s being dropped all around the map? Total BS. I’m sick of them.
😂😂😂
@@falseblackbear3553when did they say that’s the reason?
@@tank-stubbs when the second exosuit was released players wanted to use two of them. The developers made up some BS reason saying that the game couldn’t handle it. But then they come out with this thing that spams 380s constantly.
@@falseblackbear3553 tbf that makes sense for why vehicles are cut currently atm.
What ı want to add in to this equation is there is probably some people that got blasted by camera shakes on medium mode alone lol.
bro I have camera shake turned off, that must be insaaaane for people who play with it lol
@@thiccfila I turned camera shake on for the bombardment as a joke to self troll. I had to turn it off 5 minutes into the mission because i almost vomited. And i'm *NOT* sensitive to motion sickness at all.
I Play since the start with it and i am so ready to test this xD
The DSS was a disappointment. This is what it should have been:
Unlocks 3 new stratagems for the planet it’s on, a mini nuke, 720 barrage, and a more powerful orbital laser. We SHOULD be able to see it in the sky. The stratagems use should be team wide, so they aren’t too OP.
The DSS should have been a player hub of sorts. Maybe 3-4 squads could be in there. It would be cool to see other divers going into missions.
HARD AGREE
Why people are disappointed: long drawn out MOs causing players to inadvertently build up hype. The result was a random bombardment that functions as a lethal ‘planetary hazard’ at best and a menu for a resource sink.
How to fix in the meantime: include additional incentives to play on the planet containing the DSS, such as an ammo buff of 10 to 20 percent to primary weapons, reduce strat cooldowns since it’s a super weapon, or include additional Strat slot or complimentary Strats. The planetary bombardment and eagle storm should have been unique DSS specific stratagems instead of ‘planetary hazards’.
3:30 as someone with ADHD it was a nightmare to play with all the barrages
boowomp
I have ADHD and loved it. The dopamine was flowing!
That thumbnail explains it all and has me dyin 💀😂
hahahahahaha
Day 1 absolutely left the most sour of tastes in maaaaaany mouths. And unfortunately, first impressions are VERY important. Even if they rework the barrage, a lot of damage has been done, that one may never be active again.
Dss officer: how can you bonb innocent new helldivers
Bomber: easy just dont lead em as much
Orbital deployment of mines!
Minefields everywhere :)
The eagle run looks much better that the shitshow that was the bombardment.
first thought: oh this looks gr ...... blown up by the bombardment
It would be awesome to have the Eagle Storm send in different Eagles, kind of acting like a compounding effect
Example: Strafing Run, then Rocket Pods, then Cluster, then Airstrike, then 500kg, then Napalm
They should have just had a laser that never end that has global range. It looks cool and should be easy to implement. Also we can see it killing things.
Ok. The eagle storm is actually pretty sick. This looks really cool. I approve
I mainly like the Eagle support but weirdly it worked on AA emplacements as well which normally disables eagle strategems.
I would like to see the different bonuses fire different stratagems for their types according to what enemies they’re trying to hit, but then the community can spend even more resources for a specific type to be used.
For example, the current Eagle Storm can use the Strafe, Rocket Pods, default Airstrike, 500kg, Napalm or Cluster stratagems on the current mode, or you can enable a specific stratagem to be used for all Eagles (like how the Eagle Storm currently works).
The orbitals could be gatling barrages, Lasers and orc instead of bombards
Speaking of over hype, anyone catch the Paul - Tyson fight last night?
Lol
If we want to watch clowns we go to a circus.
Yeah I use sound to listen for bot patrols and chargers running at me. With endless barrage I can't hear shit or focus at all.
In my game with the orbital bombardment, one of the guys brought a walking barrage too, and it was very very fun on my ears...I got snuck up on by so many patrols because I just couldn't hear anything anymore.
4 HellDivers on a mission, and hundreds of bots, and somehow the orbital bombardment hits the HellDivers more than the bots. The only way this is possible, is AH programmed them to drop around and on the HellDivers. My only question is, why?
Itd be cool if they randomized the eagle storm, just imagine eagles constantly swooping, small explosion, big explosion, and Gatling fire just constantly , that’d be crazy cool. They can program it where the small explosion airstrikes only come within a certain distance so it doesn’t wipe you and then have the 500kgs further out
Clay immediately hating it makes me think Arrowhead didn't playtest this for one _second._
Why DSS is great:
1. I can't see shit
2. I can't hear shit
3. ???
4. Pure democracy
All the people ragging on OhDough for being critical of the DSS all look pretty dumb now and are actually saying exactly what he was saying.
The only people who are dumb watch a helldiver content creator cook an egg then buy a coin while chugging creatine.
@ if you think the DSS is good, you’re part of the problem. Maybe you should take creatine. It helps with brain function.
the eagle storm is cool but still feel underwhelmed that this is all the DSS does after 3 months.
Watching 4-ships of Eagles ripping past is badass and the attacks are actually useful. Very cinematic.
Bombardment - over the top traumatic. Eagle storm - need more in order to be cinematic and not over the top and becomes traumatic
had so much fun... jokes aside... the DSS added incredible depth to combat
The DSS would probably be best served as augmented logistics, doubling your available or providing extra mission or bonus stratagems; being able to call in two 380mm barrages at once for example. Later updates can enable it to provide stratagems that cant fit on the destroyer, such as holding the bomber that was leaked
The strafing run gets shut done. And targets patrols that are near you. And they are able to actually accidentally destroy key objectives for you.
The planetary bombardment is the definition of insanity
The whole idea of Helldiver-side planetary modifiers is great. Later on both bots and bugs will get their respective ones for sure. So the galactic map will be like a proper board game, with campaigns on planets having much variety. Perhaps we'll have Eagles flying while bots occasionally drop hulks in random spots. Different themed "brigades" will be here and there, further modifying the experience. All in all, seeing those 3-7 day cooldowns on DSS gives me impression that there should be around 10 of them at the very least. Basically planet-sized stratagems with their respective cooldowns.
I just wish the defensive/offensive options weren't tied to the bombardment/eagle storm
like maybe the community wants an eagle storm while we're on a liberation campaign or getting the bonus booster while defending a planet and so on
these kind of combinations would've been pretty great imo
Orbital bombardment and eagle storm needs a visual cue for where it’s going to land like how the meteors light up the ground before impact. I also think we should get some more personal augmentations when battling under the DSS. DSS specific strats, the big 3 boosters should all be free, stuff like that. I wanna actually feel like I’m fighting with the home field advantage.
as a zero hour diver on mastia, i can confirm that it truly had not been a single day since Verdun.
Definitely agree with the sensory overload. I could only play a couple missions at a time and then I had an actual headache and my ears felt fatigued. I would take a break and it would go away so I would do a couple more missions and the same thing would happen. This really needs reworked asap.
Was watching clay when you guys were playing he was legit having a panic attack at one point from the overload
I loved the Planetary Bombardment. Shit blowing up everywhere, so much fun and chaos. In my experience, I would only die a couple times per mission (lvl 10) from the bombardment. But I exclusively used the Fortified Heavy Armor, and often without the Shield Pack.
me, when DSS Orbital: it's so over libertybros
me, when DSS Eagles: _WE'RE SO BACK LIBERTYBROS_
I would NOT be surprised if the Eagle Storm being unavailable initially was a consequence of the backlash to the 380mm saturation. I imagine it was supposed to be the actual Eagle airstrike, but was changed to the strafing run
I honestly expected acces to some OP stratagems like the hellbomb drop, Carpet bombardment or railgun barrage. Also I'd love if we had a social hub on the DSS and access to some permanent upgrades. Just having the hellpod optimization booster 24/7 as a passive would be enough of a quality of life improvement for everyone.
Even if the bombardment was implemented well, I still think AH should have added a unique stratagem to the DSS based on the fact this game is all about using stratagems. I just think the DSS is "neat" so far, but something that is "neat" shouldn't need a 1.5 month arc to get. DSS should have been released in liberty day to really get the democracy hype train going.
Also, there should just be a passive buff that doesn't require donations whenever the DSS is on a planet. It could be something small like 20% stratagem cooldown reduction or make the Orbital Blockade always active.
A-10 warthog mod is a must-have for Eagle Storm
the "diver slaughter system" is "working as intended" 😆
DSS Captain: I knew it, I'm surrounded by Assholes.
Keep firing Assholes!
On a side note, the DSS bombardment encourages chaos diver overdrive madness.
My way of fixing Bombardment if they aren't gonna make it a stratagem buff thing, make it so periodically (every 5 or so minutes) the bombardments start falling all over enemy hotspots such as bases/bug nests. Warning is given out 10 to 15 seconds before firing, and for stuff such as blitz and eradicate missions it'll be after every 2 minutes. With eradicate missions set hard coded designated areas where the 380's will drop depending on the map
This way it'll reduce team killing and still be useful for missions.
The DSS definitly needs more work. Egale storm works nicer. I think the rework bombardment was the walking barrage with only 1-2 salvos per enemy before it chooses another enemy then it be more friendly+further from the player.
I play the game pretty casually with friends so we were still having fun in the absolute chaos, but yeah it was rough. Got a clip kicking around somewhere of me dying to a 380 shell, getting called back in, taking about ten steps and instantly eating shit to another 380. Greatest belly laugh we had that night, but I hope they make some substantial changes here LOL
Post the clip in my discord :)
I actually like the idea of multiple orbital lasers raining down for support because they inherently go after objectives and enemies. Maybe even rework it to where the orbital lasers stop themselves once all the available units/buildings are gone to add to the idea that they are manually targeting units/objectives ro help you. It also provides that similar cinematic feel as the strafing runs.
Bro, thank god, I thought we would had randomized eagle 500 kg bombs, airstrikes, clusterbombs and straferuns lol
Feels like they changed the Eagle storm in the back end to prevent more hate like the orbital bombardment, like the description states the air strike are random but nothing really happens
I am more like you I found the absurdity of the DSS funny but I agree with all the complaints, it should not have been that badly implemented.
Mostly looking for the guild/clan stuff and the leaked big stratagems that probably comes with the clan system.
Edit: As for the Orbital Bombardment I think it would be better and be more cinematic if it was more like the Eagle Strafes that are obviously targeted at enemies and it was a MIX of things based on enemy size. Large blips gets like a 3x Precision Strike salvo in its general area with a long-ish cooldown, then they should modify the Laser and swap it with the Gatling Barrage so its a targeted MOVING Gatling Barrage that fires a bit like the Eagle Strafes, just 3-4 second bursts then a couple of seconds cooldown, then it goes again etc etc.
100% agree that the DSS should be a powerhouse and making things much easier but it needs to be visually appealing without being a constant sound filter.
I literally can't play on a planet with the DSS since the Eagle Storm went live
I would load in and play for a literal minute before my game would crash
The bombardment is wild should go by grid as map is constructed in squares so seeing a square is under attack you avoid then it randomly switches to another square until all have been hit shuffles and startscrandomizing another square
I was running heavy 50% explosion armor with the personal shield and it was doing a fairly good job of tanking everything short of a direct hit
The Eagle Storm is soo much Fun, the feeling it gives you like a true battle field
Since they are probably reworking the Orbital Bombardment, I wonder in what direction they’ll take it.
If it adds a comical amount of salvos/projectiles to our deployed barrages that would be good but not everyone would notice since barrages aren’t as popular typically.
I’d like to see it reworked to become a Super Walking Barrage. Mark the start and end points with colored smoke, and then it creeps from start to finish so players can see where they shouldn’t stand instead of playing the lottery.
IDEALLY, they add a function that shows estimated danger zones of barrages or lethal stratagems in general on the map.
I really like the Eagle strats, they actually feel really cool, effective, and less team-killy
you need to embrace the planetary bombardment. Had a few instances where an automaton base I was fairly far from was cleared thanks to the bombardment
Eagles wouldn’t spawn for me, orbitals killed my team, AH railroaded the MO, and this patch reintroduced tons of bugs.
This sucks so bad
It gets worse.
So it takes a full day to move the station, and each of the “bonuses” the station gives has a 1 week cooldown……
Edit: From what I’m hearing, the strafing runs are good, BUT I WON’T KNOW FOR WHO KNOWS HOW LONG BECAUSE THEY’RE ON A WEEK COOLDOWN AND I’M AT WORK!
we deffinatly should have had actual buffs and extra dss stratagems like a nuke every 5-10 minutes 30% extra ammo and extra damage on guns like pips said in his stream that and if we got a cooldown reduction on our attack stratagems like 25% or somthing helpful since we literally have a massive station we should have faster attacks
I just played with the eagle storm active and its insanely good! the thing that makes it good/better than the bombardment is it hits everything Infront of you and your team thus hitting the enemies that are pushing your team. as to the bombardment I have heard of some class setups for it, which I was wanting to try but eagle store became active. As to how they fix it I'm unsure, they could make it shoot tighter clusters around the players but highly focus on heavily populated enemy locations (bot drops, medium-heavy bases).
I was expecting clans with the introduction of the DSS, or just a hub section like Destiny. I was also expecting the bombardments to be something you could control. But I guess AH had other plans...
The most annoying thing about the dss is the same as the fire tornados in that it seems to lock onto you and never even hatms the enemy thst much.
"Enough feedback"
These suströmming guzzlers have been getting feedback ever since the game launched and the game becomes objectively worse ever since that game launched and the only time we weren't fucked over again because the game was on the brink of death. Arrowhead will never change, just move on to a game that respects your time.
Honestly I like the orbital bombardment and Eagle strafing run stuff, but how I see they can make the orbital bombardment BETTER, is to make it where it has a yellow or blue circle that gets smaller the closer it is to hitting the ground, just like on moon or volcanic planets- where if there's volcanic rocks or asteroids coming down, that you can clearly see where they're going and get out of the radius before your team stands still to rest for a second without getting blown up.
Orbital bombardment really disappointed a TON of divers and soured the 2mo we spent building the damn thing to just continually get killed by it and possibly lose the mission because of that crap. Eagle strike is OK but just with the bombardment was used first REALLY showed how little is was tested. They are really going to have to rework a lot of the station at this point because of how bad the release came out. DSS- dumb sample sacrificer...
I actually like the eagle storm. I love seeing the strafes all over the place. The orbital is crazy bad though. We should just get a free 380 with maybe twice the length or bigger explosions or something.
I found the barrage pretty atmospheric (I've only played 2/3 games so far so it hasn't gotten old yet) but we still need a proper superweapon. Maybe a Death Star-style superlaser which can delete an entire enemy base but takes 20-30s to charge up or for the DSS to get into position
Firstly, for the cinematic part the DSS should be visible from the planet surface in orbit. Secondly, it should fire massive cannon-tower shots onto the planet surface, which explode like a Hellbomb and obliterate enemies. This can happen every so often so as to not become overwhelming, and the effect seems pretty strong. Obviously, it should not target anywhere near the players to avoid unnecessary TKs, but could soften fortified targets and distant patrols pretty well and would awesome to see a giant laser bolt impact a patrol heading your way.