Frontiers are criminally underrated. Larger version of a Dana 44 rear axle, fully boxed frame, full depth frame channels, last NA v6 in a midsize, stayed small, and are reasonably priced. Fantastic trucks and they deserve more spotlight versus people pretending the Tacoma is God's gift to man.
Frontiers are great. Bought one brand new in August of 1999. Nissan frontier desert runner edition 3.3L v6 . Drove it without an issue for 23 years. ( regular maintenance). Awesome.
22/23 Nissan Frontier Pro-4x is the best bang for the buck in midsize trucks. Its 4wd capability is severely underrated by most enthusiast. Ive been loving my 22 (I got an 3” Dobinsons suspension lift) Pro-4x and haven’t needed to use the rear end locker yet off-roading, 4 low has gotten me out of everything so far.
Was giving a Pro4X as a rental in Fresno and I really loved it! Also has the Tacoma TRD as a rental and the frontier was way more comfortable and just felt better! I usually drive a Audi so both were a nice change.
Would love for you guys to get a Frontier long term tester. It would be awesome if you guys kept it stock for a period of time then mod it out an build it.
Thank you Jesus! I’ve been looking for a video like this for the Frontier because I wanna see how it performs in this scenario. Found some stuff here and there but this is exactly what I was looking for!
Great video. I think the Frontier is a fabulous rig. The Gazell tent is an amazing tent. I have had one for three years and love it. Thanks, Tommy. Good job my friend.
That’s the trail I pushed my Maverick FX4 on. The way up to Fort Piute was the worst section. Being on the highway ready Scorpions and the low chin made it difficult. Thank Ford for the skid plates. Ended up blowing one of the tires near the end.
Great video as always, Tommy. But, a couple of things: $40K+ for a mid size truck without an adjustable steering wheel? And - for all you other manufactures out there - for the love of God, give us a top end off road truck without a crew cab, but with a 6' bed. Please!!!
@85mackey1 I'm there 💯% trucks aren't SUVS let's get back to making truck with the standard 6ft bed and put sunroof back in and everything that belongs Nissan!!
I love my 2024 pro4x , it's rock solid , my only complaint is turning radius ! But what a great truck ! It's so good . I'm to old to lift it , but it's awesome !
I was at Ft Irwin in the Mohave desert December 2011 for 4 weeks of training for my Afghanistan deployment. Had a nasty sandstorm come through one night as we were loading up to convoy to another base for the night as part of training. I was the driver of the second HMMWV behind the trainer. The sandstorm was so bad he had no idea where he was going. I had my goggles on. Couldn’t see a thing. We were off roading all over the desert because he couldn’t ever find the road. Our tents were blown over and our duffel bags were blown all over the desert the next day. If you go out in the Mohave make sure you’re well prepared.
Hello TFL. Have you all thought about creating a say "TFL Trail" channel to solely do offroad trail and on pavement scenic drive type reviews. I would love to get your perspective on different trails and drives. I know you mix in, like this video, trail reviews with vehicle reviews, but maybe have a dedicated channel for trails you all go on. Just a suggestion, thanks for all the great content.
I ended up with a taco because I couldn’t find a Pro4x anywhere. That was in 2018. Ive always preferred Nissan, but the taco is still with me and going strong.
Idk about “underrated” considering every car youtuber says it’s a great midsize truck. I do think the frontier will be in trouble once the new Tacoma comes out next month.
I just think at this point vehicles are so overbuilt that there really are no wrong choices anymore. Not just trucks, but literally most vehicles with their intended purpose kept in mind. This hit me a while ago when I was reading people complaining that 250hp and a 0-60 in the 7-8 second range wasn't enough, for a family crossover. You know, a frumpy people mover designed to get you from A-B at the speed limit. 250 was not enough somehow to do that. That was a huge reality slap for me, that people will never be happy unless this years specs have higher numbers than last years, even if last years was already more than they needed.
Maybe Nissan could start a trend of using late pre-production vehicles for off-road press demonstrations. Sounds like a great idea to have vehicles where light cosmetic damage isn’t a concern because, as you stated, they’re gonna get destroyed anyway.
@brad4527 You didn’t watch the video, clearly. Government requires a certified piece of paper for every preproduction vehicle, showing it was completely crushed. It is specifically stated on the video. Or did you want to buy the crushed cube version of it?
The boxed frame limits flex and articulation., Much weight in the back it crack the frame. The frame should flex (c channel). At the least the suspension should flex. Tires being off the ground is a failure. It dispersing all weight to fixed points. Not good. Also if they aren't on the ground no traction. This truck, like all boxed rigid frames will break with this setup. Long suspension and channel articulating is way to go. Doing what they are leads to changing lots if front end parts, wheel bearings. It failed in its setup.
@@itsallminor6133 How then do you explain Toyota's decision to finally go with a fully boxed frame with the 2024 Taco. Also, rear disc brakes as well. Playing catch up?
finally more frontier content been kinda bored with all the other trucks you showed that are new, while barely even giving the frontier a decent off road drive
Not a turbo 4 cyl engine? I'm on the market for a brand new mid-sized pickup that will be my first mid-sized pickup I think that one detail made up my mind. I have owned 2 Nissans, A Fairlady Z (in Japan), and an Xterra in Canada, so I know i love and trust the brand. A few very small modifications will resolve the few tiny issues I have with this truck, easy. Awesome and VERY helpful video, Tommy! A few years back, Tommy encouraged my purchase of my 4Runner TRD Off Road, over the TRD Pro, with excellent logic that saved me money! Here he goes being super helpful, again!😊 Thanks again, Tommy!
I'm a local in Eastern area of where you were driving. I camp all over the BLM, Mohave Preserve and the National Trails monument. That must have sucked, camping at Goffs with all the trains rolling by. They should have brought some port-o-lets and let you sleep further away, up Lanfair road, away from the train noise.
Another great video. We drove the Mohave trail a couple of years ago but somehow missed Goffs. Bummer. But there is always a next time. By the way, how was the headroom and leg room in the Frontier? Will a 6'5" guy be able to drive it comfortably?
I’m around 6” and 180 pounds and I find it kind of cramped. I have a hard time getting a good seat position when I’m driving. My right knee tends to rest or hit the dash and the grab handles on the center console. I find the gas pedal to be too upright, for my liking. My knee tends to hurt after a little. The seats are actually smaller width wise, and the arm rest is wider in return. So I often find myself sitting on the bottom boster padding left or right occasionally. Back seats are another story. Overall I like it. I can live with it. I had a 13’ Tacoma and I found it more comfortable but that’s just my opinion.
What a waste, when will vehicles become affordable by any standard. Withh waste like these, it may never be possible.or maybe I just can't understand 'first world' ways
I wish it had front lockers, the price and everything else is just fine and good up here in Canada, but for the type of overlanding I would need it to go through I need both front and rear locker 😑. I can change the suspension to longer travel and and a 2 inch lift on my own expense with the money I'd be saving compared to buying a ZR2 colorado or an AT4X canyon which are really over priced up here.
@oogleboogle123456789 adding front hubs aren't lockers, hubs don't really made the wheels lock their spin and roll at the same speed regardless of traction, tho if they did add an e-locker or a semi-locker for the front of the wheels it definitely be good enough.
Tommy, I’m a music journalist, so I’m curious to know what you’re listening to that’s driving everyone into other vehicles?? You and I might be on the same page. Of the Colorado bands, I do lo Devotcka!! Hit me up with your list.
The standards have been drastically reduced. You all need to raise the bar a little. I went through more than this out there in a 80s short box chevy decades ago. I mean, you even have a road. Thats nothing,
For $500 you can buy the Alldogs Offroad RCKilla Coil Spring & AAL Lift Kit 2” front coil spring, 1.5” add a leaf. For $1100 you can get the kit with Bilstein 5100 struts front and 5125 shock rears
this was good it is to bad there was not a 1980 (was it that they did the original run?) year truck out there to compare the two. I would love to see you do something like this with the Raptor but a more challenging course, a Baja style course for several hundred miles and see how many things break?
Man I bet you'd see some of that mud out there now! I've been itching to check out the Mojave Trail for years, living vicariously through y'all here! 😅
😂 I obviously wrote that comment before finishing the video, that river crossing was bad ass. Pretty sure my Suburban would've gotten stuck but dang it one day!
That was a great video! Looked like alot of fun. Thanks Tommy!!
Jajaja😂
Slow af
Frontiers are criminally underrated. Larger version of a Dana 44 rear axle, fully boxed frame, full depth frame channels, last NA v6 in a midsize, stayed small, and are reasonably priced. Fantastic trucks and they deserve more spotlight versus people pretending the Tacoma is God's gift to man.
I had one as a rental and now I'm seriously considering a Pro-4X. Excellent and underrated truck!
Frontiers are great. Bought one brand new in August of 1999. Nissan frontier desert runner edition 3.3L v6 . Drove it without an issue for 23 years. ( regular maintenance). Awesome.
22/23 Nissan Frontier Pro-4x is the best bang for the buck in midsize trucks. Its 4wd capability is severely underrated by most enthusiast. Ive been loving my 22 (I got an 3” Dobinsons suspension lift) Pro-4x and haven’t needed to use the rear end locker yet off-roading, 4 low has gotten me out of everything so far.
Was giving a Pro4X as a rental in Fresno and I really loved it! Also has the Tacoma TRD as a rental and the frontier was way more comfortable and just felt better! I usually drive a Audi so both were a nice change.
I love the New Frontiers I'm so glad they redesigned them after so long,
Thanks for the video
That was cool I really like the Frontier, it's my favorite of the smaller pickups.
You guys definitely have me thinking about the Frontier as an option.
Did this trail a few years back in my Ranger. Good times. That wash/steep section is no joke. Doesn't look bad on camera but it's steep!
Bought a 2023 Pro-4X 3 months ago and love it.
Would love for you guys to get a Frontier long term tester. It would be awesome if you guys kept it stock for a period of time then mod it out an build it.
Thank you Jesus! I’ve been looking for a video like this for the Frontier because I wanna see how it performs in this scenario. Found some stuff here and there but this is exactly what I was looking for!
That was one heck of a cool road trip! And the Frontier looks cool while doing it! Go TFL making history with this generation’s Nissan!
Great video.
I think the Frontier is a fabulous rig.
The Gazell tent is an amazing tent. I have had one for three years and love it.
Thanks, Tommy. Good job my friend.
More excellent content from Tommy!
Missed his buddy Sofyan tho. Good travel/review collaboration they have.
Im a big fan of Frontier and also a big fan of Tommy, tks for the video 🙏
Wow this episode was like an adventure of an Wild West movie but with trucks. Wait that's exactly what it is. Nicely done TFL.
That’s the trail I pushed my Maverick FX4 on. The way up to Fort Piute was the worst section. Being on the highway ready Scorpions and the low chin made it difficult. Thank Ford for the skid plates. Ended up blowing one of the tires near the end.
Awesome 1983 was a good year ! The year I was hatched 🐣! Love you guys the new frontier seems damn good and true to their reliability!
As a 6’1” previous Frontier owner who works at a tire store, my opinion is the Frontier is a far more comfortable vehicle to drive.
I totally dig this truck. My pick out all of em out there. I just wish the PRO-4x wasnt so expensive!
Great video as always, Tommy. But, a couple of things: $40K+ for a mid size truck without an adjustable steering wheel? And - for all you other manufactures out there - for the love of God, give us a top end off road truck without a crew cab, but with a 6' bed. Please!!!
No one wants two door trucks dude.
@@paulm6481 speak for yourself. I’ve never owned or wanted a four door truck. There are things called suvs and sedans for that.
@@85mackey1 I speak for all people. It will never happen. You want it you got go build it.
You also don’t get Power mirrors in the S model…mine doesn’t at least. That’s all I wish it had.
@85mackey1 I'm there 💯% trucks aren't SUVS let's get back to making truck with the standard 6ft bed and put sunroof back in and everything that belongs Nissan!!
That new Nissan looks sweet!
My friend just got a new pro 4x he really likes it. His previous one, a 16 I believe was totaled when it was rear ended.
God I love my my frontier even more
We love our frontier sv 4x4 amazing badass midsize truck
Would LOVE a NISMO version!!
Loved the Nissan frontier and also the historic run of the forts and old roads! Thank you! Sometime to do this summer or early fall
I love my 2024 pro4x , it's rock solid , my only complaint is turning radius ! But what a great truck ! It's so good . I'm to old to lift it , but it's awesome !
They are good looking truck. I was looking closely at them a few months ago.
I was at Ft Irwin in the Mohave desert December 2011 for 4 weeks of training for my Afghanistan deployment. Had a nasty sandstorm come through one night as we were loading up to convoy to another base for the night as part of training. I was the driver of the second HMMWV behind the trainer. The sandstorm was so bad he had no idea where he was going. I had my goggles on. Couldn’t see a thing. We were off roading all over the desert because he couldn’t ever find the road. Our tents were blown over and our duffel bags were blown all over the desert the next day. If you go out in the Mohave make sure you’re well prepared.
Nice work Tommy, I'm doing the Mojave trail in early April on my dual sport, great content as usual.
The FRONTIER is an awesome truck
Hello TFL. Have you all thought about creating a say "TFL Trail" channel to solely do offroad trail and on pavement scenic drive type reviews. I would love to get your perspective on different trails and drives. I know you mix in, like this video, trail reviews with vehicle reviews, but maybe have a dedicated channel for trails you all go on. Just a suggestion, thanks for all the great content.
Or just a Playlist
I’d like to see Nissan build another Pathfinder based on this new Frontier.
Frontier is underrated tbh. Just as good as, if not a better all-rounder than a Taco
I ended up with a taco because I couldn’t find a Pro4x anywhere. That was in 2018. Ive always preferred Nissan, but the taco is still with me and going strong.
Idk about “underrated” considering every car youtuber says it’s a great midsize truck. I do think the frontier will be in trouble once the new Tacoma comes out next month.
@@jakmac13 I say "underrated" in terms of sales. Taco sells 3× better for absolutely no reason
@Yissi Biiyte I have a 16 frontier and had a 2022 taco offroad for a rental, id much rather have the frontier, I dont get the taco hype
I just think at this point vehicles are so overbuilt that there really are no wrong choices anymore. Not just trucks, but literally most vehicles with their intended purpose kept in mind.
This hit me a while ago when I was reading people complaining that 250hp and a 0-60 in the 7-8 second range wasn't enough, for a family crossover. You know, a frumpy people mover designed to get you from A-B at the speed limit. 250 was not enough somehow to do that. That was a huge reality slap for me, that people will never be happy unless this years specs have higher numbers than last years, even if last years was already more than they needed.
They should of offered the Hardbody version(they introduce months ago) in this road trip.
What an amazing experience! Fun trip.
Maybe Nissan could start a trend of using late pre-production vehicles for off-road press demonstrations. Sounds like a great idea to have vehicles where light cosmetic damage isn’t a concern because, as you stated, they’re gonna get destroyed anyway.
yes!!
Sell them all at a discount to buyers like us!!!!
@brad4527 You didn’t watch the video, clearly. Government requires a certified piece of paper for every preproduction vehicle, showing it was completely crushed. It is specifically stated on the video. Or did you want to buy the crushed cube version of it?
Good gas mileage
Solid platform
Good off roader
Solid all around
✅✅✅✅
The boxed frame limits flex and articulation., Much weight in the back it crack the frame. The frame should flex (c channel). At the least the suspension should flex. Tires being off the ground is a failure. It dispersing all weight to fixed points. Not good. Also if they aren't on the ground no traction. This truck, like all boxed rigid frames will break with this setup. Long suspension and channel articulating is way to go. Doing what they are leads to changing lots if front end parts, wheel bearings. It failed in its setup.
@@itsallminor6133 How then do you explain Toyota's decision to finally go with a fully boxed frame with the 2024 Taco. Also, rear disc brakes as well. Playing catch up?
Frontier is an awesome truck!
Those korean tires need to go asap
Anyone know the song/artist at 11:00? Colter Wall maybe? Regardless, great video and editing.
Honky tonk star - George Simpson
So awsome , and u even got the rain 🌧️
Good video Tommy. It’s a shame they have to crush those pre-production trucks.
They won't
finally more frontier content been kinda bored with all the other trucks you showed that are new, while barely even giving the frontier a decent off road drive
Love mine
Miss them oldies... and the best also trying to find one in Canada but man scary😢
Didn’t need a pro-4x to get through most of that. A pro-x would have been more appropriate
Finally some FRONTIER love!
It's a real shame, that the bed is so tiny. Now you have to buy 4 doors too? Yuck
Beautiful just beautiful 😍
Not a turbo 4 cyl engine? I'm on the market for a brand new mid-sized pickup that will be my first mid-sized pickup I think that one detail made up my mind. I have owned 2 Nissans, A Fairlady Z (in Japan), and an Xterra in Canada, so I know i love and trust the brand. A few very small modifications will resolve the few tiny issues I have with this truck, easy.
Awesome and VERY helpful video, Tommy! A few years back, Tommy encouraged my purchase of my 4Runner TRD Off Road, over the TRD Pro, with excellent logic that saved me money! Here he goes being super helpful, again!😊
Thanks again, Tommy!
👏👏👏TOMMY ...AND TFL CAMERA NINJA.....HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY EVERYONE ✌️
Nothing dramatic, but looks like fun and the Frontier should be quite capable of doing A-OK.
I'm a local in Eastern area of where you were driving. I camp all over the BLM, Mohave Preserve and the National Trails monument. That must have sucked, camping at Goffs with all the trains rolling by. They should have brought some port-o-lets and let you sleep further away, up Lanfair road, away from the train noise.
i have the SV version... dark red double cabin, and long bed.. very nice truck whit a lift kit and bigger tire.
Such a great video!!!
Many thumbs up for this, Tommy!
History lesson or Nissan Frontier review? I actually got my history lesson I’ll look up Nissan Frontier reviews on other platforms
Wish they woulda kept the 6spd manual in the redesign
i used to own an '83 nissan st p/u.. then owned the first gen of the Frontier truck in '97/'98..haven't owned a Nissan since..
Great route and history story from TFL ! Go Nissan Frontier ! Glamping LoL !
Muy buen video muy buena camioneta!
Saludos!!
Buena vibra 🔥✌️
Cool Vid! I have always liked the Frontier/Hardbodies.. and that red color is speaking to me.. hmmm
Very cool video. My brother and I both have Titan Pro4X’s and have been talking about doing this very adventure.
Wow, what a neat experience!!
Just saw these exact trucks on a car transporter going westbound on the 210 in Upland
Good video I enjoyed it! But wanted to see the truck go up the hill not down.
Very cool video Tommy! Really enjoyed it! Looked like a lot of fun. Now, I have a new Bucket List item. 😂
Where is the TITAN ?
Looked like a decent trip. Saw a couple roads at the end living in Palmdale that looked fairly close. Lol
Another great video. We drove the Mohave trail a couple of years ago but somehow missed Goffs. Bummer. But there is always a next time. By the way, how was the headroom and leg room in the Frontier? Will a 6'5" guy be able to drive it comfortably?
I’m around 6” and 180 pounds and I find it kind of cramped. I have a hard time getting a good seat position when I’m driving. My right knee tends to rest or hit the dash and the grab handles on the center console. I find the gas pedal to be too upright, for my liking. My knee tends to hurt after a little. The seats are actually smaller width wise, and the arm rest is wider in return. So I often find myself sitting on the bottom boster padding left or right occasionally. Back seats are another story. Overall I like it. I can live with it. I had a 13’ Tacoma and I found it more comfortable but that’s just my opinion.
Great job on this video!
Hope you enjoyed 4-wheeling in my backyard! Just be happy you didn't make this trek in the summer!
What a waste, when will vehicles become affordable by any standard. Withh waste like these, it may never be possible.or maybe I just can't understand 'first world' ways
Take it to Tumbleweed Ranch!
I wish it had front lockers, the price and everything else is just fine and good up here in Canada, but for the type of overlanding I would need it to go through I need both front and rear locker 😑.
I can change the suspension to longer travel and and a 2 inch lift on my own expense with the money I'd be saving compared to buying a ZR2 colorado or an AT4X canyon which are really over priced up here.
cant you add manual locking front hubs?
@oogleboogle123456789 adding front hubs aren't lockers, hubs don't really made the wheels lock their spin and roll at the same speed regardless of traction, tho if they did add an e-locker or a semi-locker for the front of the wheels it definitely be good enough.
@@shitloveaduck 😀 have a good one 👍
ARB air locker?
Tommy, I’m a music journalist, so I’m curious to know what you’re listening to that’s driving everyone into other vehicles?? You and I might be on the same page. Of the Colorado bands, I do lo Devotcka!! Hit me up with your list.
Its the last run.. You should be trying to break everything on them. Faster the better.
AGREED!!!
Expedition Overland should re do ALL their trips using the Nissan Frontiers :D
RIP small, light trucks.
A bit of lift would be good.
Just awesome, btdt LOL
That is a great video it said that they got it totaled all those trucks. You think they can put them like auction.
Awesome video! Crazy that those trucks just get demolished! Does this happen with all press vehicles?
The standards have been drastically reduced. You all need to raise the bar a little. I went through more than this out there in a 80s short box chevy decades ago. I mean, you even have a road. Thats nothing,
They do what?!? Squish it? Thats wild.
The money you save from the upcoming TRD/Zr2s is more than enough to deck out the pro4x with a lift and a winch
I lost interest in GM. You can't get a selectable locker without spending for the ZR2 or AT4X. The rest use their horrible automatic diffs.
The Pro-4x just needs a little more ground clearance from the factory.
For $500 you can buy the Alldogs Offroad RCKilla Coil Spring & AAL Lift Kit 2” front coil spring, 1.5” add a leaf.
For $1100 you can get the kit with Bilstein 5100 struts front and 5125 shock rears
I agree a little lift , but I have to stick my cranky 85 year old mother in. So no lift for me 😒
Would a ProX be able to do this trail?
Cool video!
ugh, destroying perfectly good truck. I have a 2018 P4-X and love it.
Blows my mind they destroy press vehicles. What a waste.
this was good it is to bad there was not a 1980 (was it that they did the original run?) year truck out there to compare the two. I would love to see you do something like this with the Raptor but a more challenging course, a Baja style course for several hundred miles and see how many things break?
Love the videos! Would love to see more Bronco Sport Badlands content! 👍🏽
Crushing the vehicles after.. what a MASSIVE waste 😡 nissan doing what they can to preserve the planet NOT... anyway great review Tommy. Love ya work
They are legally required to crush them, I’m sure they’d love to sell them and make a buck but regulators are going to regulate.
Man I bet you'd see some of that mud out there now! I've been itching to check out the Mojave Trail for years, living vicariously through y'all here! 😅
😂 I obviously wrote that comment before finishing the video, that river crossing was bad ass. Pretty sure my Suburban would've gotten stuck but dang it one day!
4:16 Stand on the clutch in a manual Tacoma, then do the same thing in a manual Frontier, then you'll appreciate sitting on the floor of a Tacoma.