Unfortunately we have a government with the help of a dubious organization called Gun Free South Africa behind the strangling of legal gun owners who happen to be law abiding citizens
Most of the automatic rifles used are AK47s. Neither the police nor the soldiers use that kind of weapons, and they are not manufactured in South Africa. The weapons are coming into the country from neighboring countries throug our vast porous borders. This lady speaks only for Cape Town situation, not for the whole country.
Yeah I agree with you, if only our borders were serious on security checks. I mean there are high tech scanners that can see what’s in the transportations of cars coming and leaving SA but we don’t invest in them. And also, those rotten military at the borders and also rotten police officers are a contributing factor to this issue.
correction sir ...these weapons have been in the country for decades...weapons r readily available for buyers in the kasis ..stop pointing fingers siyabazi abantu who r selling these
Poverty is not an excuse for what these gangs are doing. I am sure that they are well off compared to their victims. Most who grow up in poverty do not turn to crime.
@@iceman4660 say that in front of four guns pointed at you with a leader asking you if you are going to help defend the turf or not. My and your good morals cannot stop young people who are being forced to join.
@@otherspectre1879 lets just say that i have been there. Its still an excuse. In your example the ones with the gun have a choice and they choose to exercise violence. That thinking suggests this will never end and that persons in poverty are unable to choose to stop the cycle. I am not suggesting that it would be easy but it can, and has been done by many
@@otherspectre1879 That's not how most of the gangs operate. You don't have to join a gang, prison is the only place where you are sort of "forced" to join a gang if you are in a place like Pollsmoor for a serious crime. So what you said doesn't actually make much sense.
Simple answer. The law makes it very difficult for honest people to own a gun. So crooks have the freedom of having illegal guns more than legal owners.
There are probably some high tech scanners that can see what’s in the transportations of cars(like in airports) coming and leaving SA but we don’t invest in them. And also, those rotten military at the borders and also rotten police officers are a contributing factor to this issue. But another one may be the fact that there are no public places to maybe say let kids learn other things after school that will keep them busy. When I grew up we had a lot of them. SA can be saved, every country has seen the worst and solved their issues and we can too… of course don’t forget to vote 🗳 ANC out since you may find there’s a politician who benefits from gun smuggling plus all other inhumane crimes they’ve been doing to us.
It is painful cause I grew up in a townships and between 1994- 2000, we had parks, tennis courts etc the world was safer. But our Province was under the IFP then
@@liswelihlemtshali7631 yeah it’s sad what the ANC touches turns to rust, but they will remember this so called power that they have. People can only be lied to for so long, they do get tired of being told lies. A different party will bring their laws and change things but what they’ll most want to do is to be better than the ANC in every way. Change will most definitely come.
@@liswelihlemtshali7631 not only that kids were very interested in sport as well. I grew up on a farm with no sporting facilities. So we, all yousters cleaned up a piece of land and created our own soccer field. We played every day. Weekends we walked to town to watch the local soccer association teams play. Today the youngsters just vandalise what is provided for them.
From my experience I would say all those guns are coming from neighbouring countries because South African boarders don’t check the cars inside that are entering the country.
What of the whole container which had ammunition that was looted last year,what of those stolen from police stations,what ofbthose sold by police and armed forces,stopbthe blame card please
Looks like strict gun controls not working again. Porous borders and poverty. You’re not gonna solve the problem by taking guns away from good people who have a right to defend themselves. Having the same problem Australia had with the drug squad. New South Wales Narc officers. the purveyor of the highest quality recreational drugs available.
It is Isolated bro! Foreigners have AK47's and they are doing as they please....especially our neighbors,they commit crime and cross to their homes without being detected
@@movementmathebula828 Yes, law and order are broken in South Africa. There are no consequences for committing a crime. The cANCer needs to be ejected from power. It will take 20-30 years to rebuild and undo the damage caused by ANC greed. South Africa should be a country of equal opportunity for all those willing to work for. Handouts should be replaced by work-reward. Nothing in life is for free. Way back in 2009 I returned to SA after ten years in London. I am regretting our return.
That figure is only the reported cases. To add more to that is the number of unreported murder cases which could be turned or changed to false cases. There is plenty unreported case as well.
Because the problem isn't the legal firearm owners. Government needs to make it easier for law abiding citizens to arm themselves and work together with the SAPs
Why every time apartheid we long pass that please we are a democratic country those in powers must step up to their promise of keeping the nation safe corruption corruption corruption the root to all this evil
Apartheid long gone but it's effects are still felt today, townships where the Apartheid regimes design and the where ans still are effective, the issues of Apartheid still linger on, like how the white minority still has the majority of the land. Just because Apartheid ended it doesn't it's purpose has also ended.
7.62x39 mm as fired by AK-47/AKM variants isn't high caliber. It's just an intermediate cartridge intentionally designed so that a broad spectrum of people can easily handle firing it.
Pity that no police were ever seen in Soweto after the incident, it's all said for media but our country is very unsafe. People die everyday for no reason at all. Our police will take bribes and hence this will never end.
the South Africa military does not use Ak47 rifle, these kinds of guns comes from our neighboring countries such Lesotho, Zim and Mozambique. Botswana is quite a strict country.
Please tell how the other 35 people are murdered on an average day. We may have to ban knob-kierries, knives, pangas, axes, matches, bottles, ropes, bricks and a whole lot more, as well. ☹
Nobody's know wether these thugs are foreigners or not,not every bad things is done by foreigners if you don't believe me go to hostels you'll find South Africans owning ammunitions
I think a big source of these AK's in South Africa is through the borders - the problem is that South Africa doesn't have a dedicated border security force, we just use regular police. Police are great but they aren't specifically trained to screen and manage borders, we need a specially trained force with the correct equipment to scan vehicles and people crossing borders to ensure that those weapons don't come into South Africa. The police can then deal with those that already are in the nation and get rid of them
I don't know why this article seems to give the impression that this is new.. Since 1994 there has been an exponential increase in violent crime. To improve anything in South Africa, change the government. That's it.. It's not that difficult to grasp
The United states is apparently experiencing this problem as well. Gun violence increasing significantly, mass shootings increasing significantly. I wonder why ? Why all of this sudden this is happening!??
Nah, ur country and their neighbour are poor because they were looted, enslaved and exploitated by the c0l0n1al1st nation for centuries up to this day (to a certain extent). And also, those same old c0l0n1zer are the ones giving bribe to ur corrupt government so that they can continue exploiting ur vulnerable country...while pretending to be ur saviour and preaching about righteousness at the same time.😈
Please stop with your narrative. It’s easy to blame leaders but leaders are from the people so let’s be honest, it’s the reflection of the society so let’s work on improvements instead of pointing fingers
@@crystaltatchell2576 oh, so there is no correlation between gun laws and gun crime? You mean bad people will break the law and continue to do bad things?
How do you get license for an AK47? Police cant reinforce the law on ealegal but the goverment will target legal license holders to take away their weapons.
No Jobs lead to poverty. Poverty leads to desperation, hunger and slumps. Slumps leads to drugs and alcohol abuse and to the exploitation of desperate people by criminal groups. Or hungry and desperate community members revert to crime themselves as many others in the community like to flash around there nice stuff as they walk around flashing money, laptops or by talking on there grand phones. Criminals have realized the police are totally unable be everywhere and opportunities for crime are many. Solve the problem of the 12000 000 unemployed and growing yearly with minimum 500 000. Curb unaffordable rising living costs and illegal foreigners And last but not least how many privately owned firearms are not stolen daily or are even in private use but used by there owners to commit crime due to sudden desperate circumstances.
Quick and simple to solve that problem... Birth control! As for private guns being stolen, it's more like police/milertary weapons control that are the problem!
The reporter asking how does one get hold of an AK in South Africa like it's totally impossible it's beyond me😔how the international community still drives a primitive Africa narrative
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We have a Security minister who only cares about camera not the safety of the people
Bheki Cele will go nowhere while actually doing the bare minimum
@@jacquespansegrouw5513 ja likes the camera and functions with food more than doing hrs feckin job
She just said criminals have AKs and law abiding citizens have tight gun control. Hope I'm not the only one that sees the problem here.
oh, like NYC
How it is in most countries criminals know exactly how to bend the law in their favour
Unfortunately we have a government with the help of a dubious organization called Gun Free South Africa behind the strangling of legal gun owners who happen to be law abiding citizens
Lol.. I don’t think, putting more weapons in the streets will do.
@@ramasodimalete2699 what about businesses / specific people getting targeted with no defense for their property or businesses.
Most of the automatic rifles used are AK47s. Neither the police nor the soldiers use that kind of weapons, and they are not manufactured in South Africa. The weapons are coming into the country from neighboring countries throug our vast porous borders. This lady speaks only for Cape Town situation, not for the whole country.
Mkhaya
Yeah I agree with you, if only our borders were serious on security checks. I mean there are high tech scanners that can see what’s in the transportations of cars coming and leaving SA but we don’t invest in them. And also, those rotten military at the borders and also rotten police officers are a contributing factor to this issue.
correction sir ...these weapons have been in the country for decades...weapons r readily available for buyers in the kasis ..stop pointing fingers siyabazi abantu who r selling these
Always will be blaminng others but yourselves. My SA friends tell me something else
@Ren Q if we talk we being labeled xenophobic......people from Lesotho,zimbabwe and Mozambique are the once committing this crimes
They should show the public when they're destroying the fire arms. I'll believe it when I see it.
Exactly.. not in SA.. To SAPS those are money bags right there.
Poverty is still a major issue. And poverty goes hand in hand with crime
There are poorer
countries than South Africa where people go around shooting each other.Poverty should not be an excuse.
Poverty is not an excuse for what these gangs are doing. I am sure that they are well off compared to their victims.
Most who grow up in poverty do not turn to crime.
@@iceman4660 say that in front of four guns pointed at you with a leader asking you if you are going to help defend the turf or not. My and your good morals cannot stop young people who are being forced to join.
@@otherspectre1879 lets just say that i have been there.
Its still an excuse. In your example the ones with the gun have a choice and they choose to exercise violence. That thinking suggests this will never end and that persons in poverty are unable to choose to stop the cycle.
I am not suggesting that it would be easy but it can, and has been done by many
@@otherspectre1879 That's not how most of the gangs operate. You don't have to join a gang, prison is the only place where you are sort of "forced" to join a gang if you are in a place like Pollsmoor for a serious crime. So what you said doesn't actually make much sense.
Simple answer. The law makes it very difficult for honest people to own a gun. So crooks have the freedom of having illegal guns more than legal owners.
If we had guns we could do the police job much better and they would not be so overburdened. but hey i dont know what the ANC agenda is.
They should have more legal gun ownership out there in South Africa.
The government is afraid of armed citizens .
They do it’s just that criminals don’t care
We don't have policeman in South Africa we have security guards🤞🤞
no, you have gangsters
No , private security is doing so much for our country
Law abiding citizens should be able to own firearms. Self defense is a human right.
We are allowed, it's just a long process
That will exacerbate the killings
@@elliotsikhafungana8055 criminals kill ppl not guns. Criminals run around freely with guns
@@elliotsikhafungana8055 So the citizens should stay unarmed while the killing continues. Now that makes sense.
@@M-zg2sg because criminals will attack citizens to get those fire arms.
There are probably some high tech scanners that can see what’s in the transportations of cars(like in airports) coming and leaving SA but we don’t invest in them. And also, those rotten military at the borders and also rotten police officers are a contributing factor to this issue. But another one may be the fact that there are no public places to maybe say let kids learn other things after school that will keep them busy. When I grew up we had a lot of them. SA can be saved, every country has seen the worst and solved their issues and we can too… of course don’t forget to vote 🗳 ANC out since you may find there’s a politician who benefits from gun smuggling plus all other inhumane crimes they’ve been doing to us.
True
It is painful cause I grew up in a townships and between 1994- 2000, we had parks, tennis courts etc the world was safer. But our Province was under the IFP then
@@liswelihlemtshali7631 yeah it’s sad what the ANC touches turns to rust, but they will remember this so called power that they have. People can only be lied to for so long, they do get tired of being told lies. A different party will bring their laws and change things but what they’ll most want to do is to be better than the ANC in every way. Change will most definitely come.
@@liswelihlemtshali7631 not only that kids were very interested in sport as well. I grew up on a farm with no sporting facilities. So we, all yousters cleaned up a piece of land and created our own soccer field. We played every day. Weekends we walked to town to watch the local soccer association teams play. Today the youngsters just vandalise what is provided for them.
Poverty is destroying moral fabric.. It's Poverty .
Be tough on corruption and destroy all confiscated guns. Purge the police and military.
It’s the same problem in Certain parts of most big cities in the US and The Caribbean. I wonder why?
Could it be Load shedding? Water restrictions? Government corruption? Service Delivery? Unemployment? Christopher Columbus? 😋
@@nivek5031 it very well could be. But most of those things you mentioned happens in other parts of the world without such problems.
@@thomasb1813 As usual, I was being facetious. 😕I used to be conceited, but now I'm perfect. 😊
@@nivek5031 😂😂😂
Because of we all live under capitalism and thats why we must fight together
Death penalty is a deterrent...
From my experience I would say all those guns are coming from neighbouring countries because South African boarders don’t check the cars inside that are entering the country.
What of the whole container which had ammunition that was looted last year,what of those stolen from police stations,what ofbthose sold by police and armed forces,stopbthe blame card please
Looks like strict gun controls not working again.
Porous borders and poverty. You’re not gonna solve the problem by taking guns away from good people who have a right to defend themselves.
Having the same problem Australia had with the drug squad. New South Wales Narc officers. the purveyor of the highest quality recreational drugs available.
Unfortunately SA isn't clearcut good guys and bad guys. The good guys don't buy guns and the bad guys have access to too many guns.
You are spot on @Master AGN
Exactly
Porous borders
23 500 people are murdered every year in South Africa, through common criminality like gang, family, alcoholic rage. This is not an isolated incident.
It is Isolated bro! Foreigners have AK47's and they are doing as they please....especially our neighbors,they commit crime and cross to their homes without being detected
@@movementmathebula828 Yes, law and order are broken in South Africa. There are no consequences for committing a crime. The cANCer needs to be ejected from power. It will take 20-30 years to rebuild and undo the damage caused by ANC greed. South Africa should be a country of equal opportunity for all those willing to work for. Handouts should be replaced by work-reward. Nothing in life is for free. Way back in 2009 I returned to SA after ten years in London. I am regretting our return.
@@movementmathebula828 Exactly
That figure is only the reported cases. To add more to that is the number of unreported murder cases which could be turned or changed to false cases. There is plenty unreported case as well.
@@morganchetty7593 Agreed. I've been mugged with a knife held to my throat. I didn't even bother to report.
ANC: what violence? _👁️👄👁️_
Mr Mbeki on the 2008 political crisis in Zimbabwe: "what crisis, there's no crisis in Zimbabwe "
The problem started when you made it hard for honest citizens to own guns for self-defence..
A functional policing service would have been really handy...
The other factor is unemployment, people are hungry and there are no jobs
SA has not done anything to fight crime
Since south Africa has strict gun laws but still has a gun problem.....
Because the problem isn't the legal firearm owners. Government needs to make it easier for law abiding citizens to arm themselves and work together with the SAPs
I love how she isn't blaming law abiding citizens
Why every time apartheid we long pass that please we are a democratic country those in powers must step up to their promise of keeping the nation safe corruption corruption corruption the root to all this evil
(1) because it's a free pass to bad behaviour (2) because it flies beneath the intelligence radar
Apartheid long gone but it's effects are still felt today, townships where the Apartheid regimes design and the where ans still are effective, the issues of Apartheid still linger on, like how the white minority still has the majority of the land. Just because Apartheid ended it doesn't it's purpose has also ended.
How to sort this problem ?
Death penalty
7.62x39 mm as fired by AK-47/AKM variants isn't high caliber. It's just an intermediate cartridge intentionally designed so that a broad spectrum of people can easily handle firing it.
Well, it's designed to kill, that's high enough.
@@gregorteply9034 it's important to point out for the sake of clarity.
Who behind the gangs? The usual Suspects
Illegal foreigners
Remember a container loaded with guns was looted last year. I've heard that guns are selling as low as R500 ($35) on Facebook.
Accurate insights.
For once, an accurate account of the real causes, and not just promotinga political narrative. Well done!
I'm a honest citizen but now we can't protect our selfs of criminals , I'm. Onsidering getting a gun illegally . Well done south Africa
In South Afrika they must get rid of ANC Leaders én the minister Cele is nothing himself corruptie niks niks only violence 🙄🙄not peace living 😓😓
Pity that no police were ever seen in Soweto after the incident, it's all said for media but our country is very unsafe. People die everyday for no reason at all. Our police will take bribes and hence this will never end.
As a south african ask why Over 1 million rounds of ammunition that was Looted from Durban harbor in the Zuma July riots has not been recovered.......
Every Dept that was questioned about this just passed the buck.
Yeah probably looted by corrupt officials
Influence of Americans liberal socialist justice system
She speaks so beautifully 🤌🏽🇿🇦 represent girl
ak47 rifles are not saps or sandf issue. many crossed border during the struggle.
the South Africa military does not use Ak47 rifle, these kinds of guns comes from our neighboring countries such Lesotho, Zim and Mozambique. Botswana is quite a strict country.
What about Europe just like blaming Africans for us in our countries we all know you if you want a gun go to SA
From 5:35 The media will never play that part because it shows the TRUTH!
Its a well known fact, it needs no media emphasis
You are proving "the media" don't show sth by tagging a media video...
no police,no military no law, open borders....thats why
Law of the jungle?
i think illegal guns are cheaper than legal guns
Please tell how the other 35 people are murdered on an average day. We may have to ban knob-kierries, knives, pangas, axes, matches, bottles, ropes, bricks and a whole lot more, as well. ☹
Unemployment, joblessness an increased rich poor divide is causing this.
What do you expect when the policing minister is only there to keep corrupt ANC officials out of jail?
ANC must Fall... I am ending there the is to mutch I know because I was a member before.
Good. Please also enlighten your family members and friends. We're in a crisis now.
This is what foreigners are doing to our country and when we talk we are Xenophobic☹️
Nobody's know wether these thugs are foreigners or not,not every bad things is done by foreigners if you don't believe me go to hostels you'll find South Africans owning ammunitions
23 in a day? Wow
Police hand fire arms to crimmals
The people aren't going to want to hand in their guns if the police don't disarm as well...!!!
Crime is such a short sighted method.
Africans! In America, African Americans.
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We aren't Africans
I think a big source of these AK's in South Africa is through the borders - the problem is that South Africa doesn't have a dedicated border security force, we just use regular police. Police are great but they aren't specifically trained to screen and manage borders, we need a specially trained force with the correct equipment to scan vehicles and people crossing borders to ensure that those weapons don't come into South Africa. The police can then deal with those that already are in the nation and get rid of them
Destroy them? Give the better ones to Ukraine.
Fire Bheki Cele, get someone that can do the job and don't make empty promises
Illegal immigrants
Your brother kills innocent people n u blame an innocent people
When Farmers are killed it is said to be normal crime. This is normal crime
Cele must Go!
aibo in the world👀 what about Chicago and Philly?
More Roadblocks in small towns,not just to look for drunk drivers but people who smuggle guns into our beatifull once peacfull country.
Emphasis on CRIMINALS AND THEIR ILLEGAL FIREARMS!
Safe country.
I got my firearm license after my father was shot dead in 2010
Look at the quality of life for everyone before and after 1995. We see "surge in violence" every year since 1995.
I don't know why this article seems to give the impression that this is new.. Since 1994 there has been an exponential increase in violent crime. To improve anything in South Africa, change the government. That's it.. It's not that difficult to grasp
Africans unfortunately
The United states is apparently experiencing this problem as well.
Gun violence increasing significantly, mass shootings increasing significantly.
I wonder why ?
Why all of this sudden this is happening!??
It's this planet. This planet is making people sick and mentally diseased. The earth is spinning faster and everything is off-balance.
Shame to all african leader's for putting us in poverty from time to time. Wake up wake up. Peace unto you all 🙏 love ❤ from 9ja
Nah, ur country and their neighbour are poor because they were looted, enslaved and exploitated by the c0l0n1al1st nation for centuries up to this day (to a certain extent).
And also, those same old c0l0n1zer are the ones giving bribe to ur corrupt government so that they can continue exploiting ur vulnerable country...while pretending to be ur saviour and preaching about righteousness at the same time.😈
you cannot say all African leaders IN BOTSWANA we dont know what you people are on about nobody sleeps hungry here unless you are on a diet
Please stop with your narrative. It’s easy to blame leaders but leaders are from the people so let’s be honest, it’s the reflection of the society so let’s work on improvements instead of pointing fingers
@@dujardinmtl leaders are not from the people so i dont know what you are talking about.
@@samuellolango9720 can’t help you sorry. Open your horizons
ANC and EFF - need to go! Vote DA!
The guy at 1:39 looks like Lexington Steele
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We have evolved into the digital age! Emotionally we are still on a level of a chimpanzee? War and violence is inevitable!
Am a nalawian i can say i don't know where to start to cary the gun i grow up somewhere i never see the gun and is not that easy.
What about the cape flats we have murders here every single day of the week. Why dont we here about this on the news is it because we are Kulids?
I thought wakanda was in africa
It's in Zambia not in SA lol
@@ugbalaarya5213 there’s no wakanda, need whites to build an african paradise
It's in Britain
If Wakanda existed it would be pilaged by barbaric Europeans
Poverty and crime go hand in hand.
When goverment can’t help it’s poor people then anarchy happens.
Problem is, some police sell the confiscated weapons to criminals
USA TOO
what's behind South Africa's surge in gun violence?
...who can afford bullets in South Africa?
23 people daily
Bheki Cele is a liar ask me...
Lots of guns come across the Mozambique border from arms stashes left over from the war
What's behind South Africa's surge in gun violence?.........Useless policing/government.....simple as that.
please do not kill humanity
stop killings of mankind
The police sre the ones selling these guns
Been going on for years nothing new and won't be stopped till the old way of policing happens not the apartheid part but the active policing.
ANC has been the problem but we don't look at that... But whatever.
Police service is very weak
...Nick Cage
If u get rid of Bheki Cele and put someone who knows how to do the job
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Who manufactures the guns and bullets?
Chinese and Russians
hot weather
Not strict enough gun laws
We have very strict gun laws. This is about illegal guns. Did you even listen to the report?
@@crystaltatchell2576 oh, so there is no correlation between gun laws and gun crime? You mean bad people will break the law and continue to do bad things?
cant blame apartheid for this.
How do you get license for an AK47? Police cant reinforce the law on ealegal but the goverment will target legal license holders to take away their weapons.
an AK is a revolutional South Africans own AKs
No Jobs lead to poverty. Poverty leads to desperation, hunger and slumps. Slumps leads to drugs and alcohol abuse and to the exploitation of desperate people by criminal groups. Or hungry and desperate community members revert to crime themselves as many others in the community like to flash around there nice stuff as they walk around flashing money, laptops or by talking on there grand phones. Criminals have realized the police are totally unable be everywhere and opportunities for crime are many. Solve the problem of the 12000 000 unemployed and growing yearly with minimum 500 000. Curb unaffordable rising living costs and illegal foreigners And last but not least how many privately owned firearms are not stolen daily or are even in private use but used by there owners to commit crime due to sudden desperate circumstances.
Quick and simple to solve that problem... Birth control!
As for private guns being stolen, it's more like police/milertary weapons control that are the problem!
The reporter asking how does one get hold of an AK in South Africa like it's totally impossible it's beyond me😔how the international community still drives a primitive Africa narrative
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Those guns come from Afghanistan. After the us left their weapons there it created a huge Market in Africa.